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Won the first world war. | ||
We won the second world war. | ||
We won everything before that and in between. | ||
And then we decided to go woke and we changed your name to Department of Defense. | ||
So we're going Department of War. | ||
And I'd like to ask our uh Secretary of War to say a few words. | ||
Uh Pete Heggs said, I think it's a much more appropriate name, especially in light of where the world is right now. | ||
We have the strongest military in the world. | ||
We have the greatest equipment in the world. | ||
We have the greatest manufacturers of equipment by far. | ||
There's nobody to even compete. | ||
And you see that with this and so many other things. | ||
Begin tonight with Donald Trump's use of the American military to advance an authoritarian vision, sidestepping congressional oversight, and putting U.S. service members in the middle of his politics. | ||
Today, Donald Trump signed an executive order creating a secondary name for the Department of Defense, calling it the quote unquote Department of War. | ||
An official name change would require an act of Congress, which is why we won't be using that name on our show. | ||
Words matter. | ||
And the administration is telling us in no uncertain terms how it intends to wield the world's most lethal fighting force. | ||
Indeed, the Department of Defense was called the Department of War until an amendment to the National Security Act in 1949. | ||
The nation had just been through two world wars and tensions with Soviet Russia were escalating. | ||
The name Department of Defense made America's priorities very, very clear. | ||
Protecting individual liberties and democracy and not flippantly entering wars that put lives at risk. | ||
Trump actually did campaign on no new wars, but today's order sends a very different message. | ||
Donald Trump sees the American military as a means to centralize power until we are one nation under Trump. | ||
In the midst of all the other chaos and drama and terror, I think this is the most important story in America and maybe in the world. | ||
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Trump has hijacked the levers of power around our military, period. | ||
There is no transparency. | ||
There is no accountability. | ||
Congress has been totally steamrolled. | ||
And now he can effectively do whatever he wants with the military that he's now calling the Department of War, ranging from striking on Iran to hitting drug dealers in Venezuela to in 2019, sending the Navy SEALs into North Korea to sending the National Guard into L.A. and now Chicago. | ||
The guardrails are gone. | ||
This is the most dangerous course of action. | ||
This is what we worried about with Donald Trump. | ||
And if you get lost in all the other drama and RFK and everything else, remember, he has access to the nukes and he could make the same argument to use nukes that he's made for the National Guard and hitting Iran and everything else. | ||
This is the story. | ||
It is the central story. | ||
And it's why he started with Hegseth. | ||
It's why he's always focused on the Pentagon, because that's where the power is. | ||
And he's rolling it out in bits and pieces every single week. | ||
And he's trying to normalize it. | ||
And that's what we have to push back on. | ||
Most of all, none of this is normal. | ||
None of it is acceptable. | ||
And all of it is dangerous. | ||
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He wants to rebrand it the Department of War. | |
For what purpose? | ||
I think the rebranding is just speaking to the macho factor that you were talking about earlier in the show, that that hyper masculinity has always been so linked and a part of Trumpism that it's not shocking to me that the same person, Pete Hegseth, who went before the Senate and touted as almost a true credential, his desire to make the military lethal and feared again. | ||
That was his central argument for being the head of the Pentagon, despite all of the allegations against him of drinking and of sexual misconduct, and that he didn't know how to manage funds or large bureaucracies. | ||
All of those were really tangible things. | ||
And yet his credential was, I want to be lethal. | ||
And that masculinity has always been enough. | ||
And a really important point to answer your second part of your question, he's making Americans scared of our military. | ||
He's making the world scared of our military, but he's also making Americans scared of our military, which is a very dangerous place to be. | ||
There's the old saying, send the country first, then send the troops. | ||
He continues to send the troops without popular support. | ||
This is like Vietnam on steroids. | ||
This is the worst case scenario of the AUMF and Trump combined. | ||
He is lowering the popularity of the institution that Americans until recently respect more than anything else. | ||
So now they're afraid of the National Guard coming into Chicago. | ||
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Can I ask you another Florida question? | |
The vaccine mandates that were rolled back for school children, what do you think about the What do you think about that? | ||
Well, I think we have to be very careful. | ||
Look, you have some vaccines that are so amazing. | ||
Uh the polio vaccine, I happen to think is amazing. | ||
Uh a lot of people think that uh COVID is amazing. | ||
You know, there are many people that uh believe strongly in that. | ||
But you have some vaccines that are so incredible. | ||
And I think you have to be very careful when you say that some people don't have to be vaccinated. | ||
It's a very, you know, it's a very tough position. | ||
So I'd give you an answer. | ||
I'll give you a feeling. | ||
But uh just initially I heard about it yesterday, and uh it's a tough stance. | ||
Look, you have vaccines that work. | ||
They just pure and simple work. | ||
They're not controversial at all. | ||
And I think those vaccines should be used. | ||
Otherwise, some people are going to catch it and they endanger other people. | ||
Uh and when you don't have controversy at all, uh people should take it. | ||
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So, you know, not only are we seeing you know some of these high-profile military actions, uh, you know, the the 2019 strike, the New York Times reported today, the Venezuelan strike, that that do raise serious questions. | |
And that, you know, Pete Heggseth is is somehow the one overseeing. | ||
But also we're now learning that the the senators who who can put guardrails on this who can reveal information about what's going wrong to the public are being shut out. | ||
But I also think you're watching some of those senators who are willing to be critical, whether it's Tom Tillis or Joni Ernst, who at one point waffled on Hegseth and then ultimately was herself pushed back into line. | ||
They are choosing now to leave the Senate, not run for re-election. | ||
Because the writing is on the wall that you're either with them or you're against them, and if you're against them, it's not gonna last long anyway. | ||
And I think that's the the deeper, more long-lasting impact here of what Trumpism will do even after Trump is gone, which is that the party is entirely remade in his image now in the House, certainly in the Senate now after the 2026 cycle, yeah. | ||
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Okay, but I won't be able to do that. | |
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
Pray for our enemies. | ||
Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
I got a free shot. | ||
All these networks lying about the people. | ||
The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
It's going to happen. | ||
And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
MAGA media. | ||
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Warum. | |
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. | ||
It's uh Saturday, 6 September in the year of our Lord 2025. | ||
Welcome to the Saturday show. | ||
As you know, our favorite show of the week. | ||
Um what's there are three watchwords here? | ||
Maximalist strategy, right? | ||
Urgent. | ||
You have to get it done today, because we are burning daylight and seize the institutions. | ||
Now, what do we say here about, you know, you've got the courts, obviously the Supreme Court and the and the legal system, quite important. | ||
But the three most powerful institutions in the Imperial Capitol, as I say over and over again, are the CIA, the Federal Reserve, and CENCOM. | ||
And you have uh you have President Trump and the MAGA movement uh in process of at least seizing two of those. | ||
Pete Heggseth and the and the pivot to hemispheric defense and politico's got a um uh a pretty good story I've put up on Getter about the new uh defense strategy that every year you put up an update on that. | ||
And they kind of misinterpret it because uh it's the pivot to hemispheric defense. | ||
And uh maybe they it may be uh in the hemispheric defense strategy, we haven't totally fulfilled out the uh three island chains, which our forefathers back in the 19th century understood was absolutely um essential to manifest destiny, because we are a Pacific power. | ||
But that talks about the hemispheric defense, and they're all pulling the hair out. | ||
Oh my God, Trump's, you know, hemispheric defense, hemispheric defense is number one. | ||
Upon that, we can pivot everything. | ||
And what Pete Heggseth and the team are doing um are looking at from the Panama Canal to Greenland to the Arctic, and now, you know, with uh uh Chloe Pascal, um, the Western Pacific, the three island chains, the hemispheric defense of the United States, and of course Latin America is very big in that. | ||
Maduro, and we're not an advocate of regime change. | ||
However, the uh behavior is gonna have to change down there, particularly their involvement with the Wait for it Chinese Communist Party, because that you know, if you look at it, uh the Persians, uh, Venezuela, and the Russians are what providing 100% of the energy use of our greatest and existential threat, which is the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
Now, politico misinterprets and says, hey, back in Trump's first term, you know, they pivoted out of uh the global war on terror to uh China a great power struggle. | ||
I was instrumental in the writing of that, in the redirection of that, and we haven't changed the Chinese Communist Party, but you have to have the hemispheric defense first, and you have to clear out the Chinese Communist Party from the Caribbean, where they've made a lake for the PLA, right, in the Russian Navy. | ||
Um, and you have to clear out the cartels, their business partners, and that's all happening. | ||
That is in President Trump is seizing the institution of the Pentagon. | ||
And yes, we're federalizing National Guard, and you've made, I had uh dinner last night, I'm not dinner, I got there afterwards, of people who are not Trump fans, who are not Trump fans over in Georgetown. | ||
And let's say this, they're big league, not Trump fans, to a person. | ||
They said the city has been totally changed. | ||
Georgetown's been totally changed since the troops came in. | ||
They were singing President Trump's high hosandas. | ||
Now none of those people would go public with that, but when you're sitting there talking to them, they're saying they can finally walk back around Georgetown at night. | ||
It's completely changed. | ||
You know, women are not afraid to go out at night, they feel like they were the stores, they can start wearing their watches and their jewelry, which they could not do. | ||
That's what President Trump is doing by taking control of these insurrectionist um sanctuary cities. | ||
And guess what? | ||
We had Mike Rogers on yesterday. | ||
I thought he made a very compelling case for Detroit. | ||
President Trump is going to Chicago, he's gonna take it to New Orleans, and eventually uh he's gonna go to New York. | ||
I think you wait to New York until my mom Donnie wins, which he's going to win, uh, and I think he could win big. | ||
And uh when the red-green uh axis, when uh the Marxist, he's not a socialist, he's not a populist, it's not about affordability, he is a Marxist, and um and uh jihadist. | ||
His mother's been taking money from Qatar forever. | ||
That's how they financed the whole deal. | ||
He's uh he's a happier, happy clappy Obama, and he's gonna be like Sadiq Khan. | ||
The Daily Mail and the Daily Telegraphs, I think they're lead stories, the tele daily telegraph's lead story. | ||
The only story in England that was bigger when it came up were throwing this um the deputy prime minister out for some tax violation. | ||
But when I gave the speech at National Conservative uh conference the other day and said, hey, civil war is coming to England. | ||
And I gave GB News uh about a 45-minute interview yesterday, I think it'll be up starting over the weekend. | ||
You can see it happening with the putting up of the uh of the St. George flags, the putting up the Union Jacks at night, thousands of these, and then taken down by the authorities. | ||
Something is going on, and Nigel Farage just gave an amazing speech at their conference. | ||
Uh actually Raheem's over there and try to track him down, and and Grace and Moore and Korea, and they've done a great job with Mina Kim at the Korean conference. | ||
So I'm really proud of uh the war room throughout the world, and of course Natalie's over in Asia too, doing some reporting. | ||
So uh we're hitting on all cylinders this morning. | ||
But the key thing to keep in mind is the is what's happening. | ||
So we told you the convergence of these crises, right? | ||
The geopolitical, the beginning of the third world war, the kinetic part, you can't deny that. | ||
There's what 1.7 million casualties in uh 1.7 million casualties already by the Ukrainians in Ukraine. | ||
There are um there are over a million Russian casualties, 2.7 million overall. | ||
Yemen. | ||
You add it all up, it's far higher. | ||
Far higher than from 1939 from September 1st, the invasion of Poland to the beginning of Operation Barbarossa in June of 1941. | ||
I think it's three times higher. | ||
That includes the fall of France, the blitz in England. | ||
I'll throw Finland in there, the Finnish war, the brave Finn stood up to the Russians. | ||
North Africa, all of it. | ||
We're in the middle of it now. | ||
The Federal Reserve. | ||
Scott Besson as a you know contributor here. | ||
You've known Scott for years. | ||
First time he started doing TV was here. | ||
The reason he's Secretary of Treasury, he's a safe pair of hands. | ||
You know this. | ||
You've seen this, right? | ||
When Elon argued for Lutnik, and we argued for Scott Besson, because Scott Besson's a safe pair of hands, and the capital markets feel very calm that Scott deals with them straight, gives them proper information. | ||
He's got the most radical article I have ever read from any Secretary of the Treasury in the Wall Street Journal. | ||
And now it's a 27-page report on the Journal of International Economy. | ||
I'm gonna get uh the team to put it out right after the show that Wall Street Journal will put out, and we're gonna talk about in the second hour. | ||
And Scott, we're trying to get Scott to join us on Monday. | ||
Basically, a D you talk about deconstructing administrative state. | ||
This is a deconstruction of the Federal Reserve. | ||
Very serious. | ||
So those are two CENCOM and um and the Fed. | ||
Why? | ||
Because the Middle East is a sideshow, and the Greater Israel project is a side show to a side show. | ||
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Okay, uh, folks, right here. | ||
Uh, our former contributor, Scott Besson, who's now Secretary of the Treasury, has written uh a takedown of the Federal Reserve. | ||
This is gonna have a massive impact. | ||
It is uh the Feds, remember this gain of function. | ||
Remember Anthony Fauci weaponizing uh viruses over there uh at uh NIH, the virus that became the uh COVID-19. | ||
Remember the gain of function that we shut down, the gain of function, very dangerous, weaponizing viruses, basically uh creating biological weapons. | ||
The feds gain of function monetary policy. | ||
For all the Ron Rand Paul, Ron Paul folks, the central banks, where the three most powerful institutions, boys and girls in the Imperial Capitol, the CIA, the Federal Reserve, and CENCOM. | ||
That's why right now, what's our watchword here? | ||
Maximalist, a maximum strategy. | ||
Take everything to the ultimate conclusion until you can't go any farther. | ||
Whether it's redistricting, whether it's mass deportations, whether the sealing of the border, whether it's kinetic activity against the cartels, maximalist policy. | ||
Maximus policy right here, Scott Besson, a safe pair of hands. | ||
That's why he's that's why he's Secretary of the Treasury. | ||
Because he calms capital markets. | ||
In the United Kingdom today, and in France, France on Monday, by the way, take your number two princil out. | ||
The government's gonna fall. | ||
They're gonna have another vote in their parliament, the prime minister is gonna put a vote up, they're gonna get a vote of no confidence, the government's gonna fall in the uh national front or national rally, whatever it's called today, uh Le Pen is gonna help put together another government. | ||
I think they're gonna have a vote of no confidence on Macron, and we're gonna go to election. | ||
Why? | ||
Because the French can't sell 30-year bonds, they can't finance, they have a 7% deficit to GDP. | ||
What do we tell you? | ||
You know, Scott Besson's plan is our we're at 6.5% or 7% right now, and we get we're hurtling down to shut down the government on the 30th at midnight because guess what? | ||
Nobody's come up with a plan on how to cut spending or really drive additional revenues. | ||
The French are in worse shape. | ||
They're at 7% with no help, and it can't go on. | ||
They can't finance it. | ||
Why can't they finance it? | ||
Class? | ||
Because they're not the prime reserve currency. | ||
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So for all you Ron Paul fans and Rand Paul fans, this is populists and nationalists. | ||
This gives us control of this institution back. | ||
Um the lead story in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday night was my speech at the National Conservative Convention where I said there's a civil war coming to England. | ||
Nigel Farage is at the conference today for reform. | ||
Nigel Farage has done an amazing job with no money. | ||
He's bootstrapped a party called the Reform Party. | ||
It now polls, the Tories are at 14%. | ||
Think about it. | ||
A party that's been around for 250 years, a party that won World War II with Winston Churchill as its head, a party that had Margaret Thatcher, a party that uh for 12 years, I think, for 12 years ran Britain, right? | ||
Is that 14%? | ||
Why? | ||
They were the guys, just like the Rhinos and Republicans here, they looked the other way. | ||
They're controlled opposition, they looked the other way because what is today? | ||
Boys and girls, what's today? | ||
It's the 10th anniversary of Merkel allowing the first wave of one million Syrian refugees, excuse me, excuse me, asylum seekers to come to Germany to begin to the destruction of Germany. | ||
Who didn't allow that? | ||
Hungary didn't allow it, Poland didn't allow it. | ||
What are the countries in Europe that are making it right now? | ||
Let wait for it. | ||
Let me think. | ||
Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
Hungary and Poland. | ||
The United Kingdom can't sell a 30-year bond. | ||
They just found out yesterday. | ||
Oh my gosh, we have a 50 billion pound either mistake or we didn't see it in this year's budget. | ||
Starmer's polling to smorning is at 9%. | ||
Yesterday said it was 11%. | ||
I was incorrect. | ||
I was corrected last night. | ||
He said 9%. | ||
His deputy just got fired because she's a tax cheater or something. | ||
Sadiq Khan, you heard that name? | ||
Sadiq Khan, who's who's changed London in 10 years to make it a no-go zone. | ||
If you're Jewish or from Israel, it's a no-go zone. | ||
That's Sadiq Khan. | ||
He's going to be the next, it won't happen immediately, but he's going to be the next prime minister. | ||
He's gonna he's gonna work through, and the labor party is gonna turn to him. | ||
This is why mom Donny is so important in New York City. | ||
And no, I recommended President Trump should stay out of it. | ||
You're not gonna beat him. | ||
He's he this is it's called the red green alliance. | ||
This is neo-Marxism with radical jihad. | ||
And they put a happy face on it. | ||
Sadiq Khan comes across as a total professional. | ||
You think he works in the city of London. | ||
Look at Mandami, right? | ||
He's got the TikToks and he's skipping around and dancing. | ||
He's a nice guy. | ||
He's got that big smile, magnetic, charismatic personality. | ||
The working families party and DSA, and he's not a socialist. | ||
They say he's the socialist, they're not socialists, the neo-Marxist and a radical jihadist. | ||
New York City in 10 years is going to be exactly like London is today. | ||
And you're not going to beat him in November. | ||
Eric Adams already said yesterday, no, I'm not dropping out. | ||
Uh Sliwa's not going to drop out. | ||
Cuomo, it's a it's a disaster. | ||
And I think this kid could get under over 50% of the vote. | ||
And wait for it. | ||
Right now, the polling shows 57% of Jewish kids under 30 are going to vote for him. | ||
And I think a third of his staff, his inner circle are young Jewish professionals, media, political operatives, tech, very little government experience. | ||
The progressive left, and this comes from the school systems in New York City. | ||
First off, Qatar, Qatar totally runs the New York public school system. | ||
And Qatar is the railhead for the financing of the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
Right? | ||
You see, Hamas Hamas is just a they're a local franchisee of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza. | ||
Qatar, which everybody's rubbing up on them over there. | ||
Why? | ||
They've put 250, was it 250 billion dollars into the United States over the last 10 years? | ||
Remember, they almost got taken over by UAE and Saudi Arabia in 2017. | ||
The private school systems are actually worse in New York City. | ||
The most elite uh gray schools with people, uh, the parents go to it's a knife fight to get your kid into these schools in kindergarten. | ||
But then you go up and you got the was it Fieldstone and Buckley and all these. | ||
It's it's a knife fight to get him into the uh to the middle schools and the in the prep schools. | ||
These are incubators for radicals, incubators for radicals. | ||
The teachers are all radical, the administration is all radical, and you're seeing it. | ||
This is what's coming. | ||
I told the donors to all these guys, you're not gonna stop it. | ||
You're not gonna beat it now. | ||
You can do it later, but you're not gonna do it now. | ||
And if you try to get in the way of it, I think, unless you can come up with some incredible plan, the plan being shown where his money is all his money is dark money. | ||
His money's dark money. | ||
And his mother's up to her neck, and she admits it, she's up to her neck, she's been financed by Qatar for years. | ||
She's a what Indian filmmaker. | ||
As I told you after the first hundred days, it's the next two hundred while these crises converge that are gonna define MAGA, President Trump's presidency and going forward, and also the country. | ||
And you're seeing it happen right now. | ||
In this September, you're seeing it all. | ||
Look at Bobby Kennedy Thursday, a magnificent performance as he stood in the breach and took incoming for three hours and called these folks out. | ||
And what happened? | ||
What happened afterwards? | ||
The people around in the White House around President Trump thought it was a good thing to have 50 demons around the table around President Trump, including Zuckerberg and Bill Gates and Google. | ||
And what are you trying to do with Google? | ||
And and people didn't brief the president because President said, hey, you had a good day in in court. | ||
That was not a good day, Mr. President. | ||
We're trying to break up Google. | ||
We're trying to break up Facebook. | ||
We're trying to break up Microsoft and hell, throw Walmart and all of them in there. | ||
The concentration of corporate power with government power is what is destroying this country. | ||
It's already destroyed Europe. | ||
It's already the short, because the co it was the central banks, the financial community, the city of London, and the corporations that, hey, we need more people. | ||
You need cheaper labor, you need lower labor, and we need bigger markets. | ||
We got to sell more consumer goods. | ||
So let's have millions of of uh North Africa and Middle East. | ||
Let's have bring them in. | ||
Bring them in. | ||
Why do you think Poland's doing so well? | ||
Why do you think President Trump had the Polish president there? | ||
Why is Poland's economy growing like crazy? | ||
Poland doesn't have a problem selling 30-year bonds. | ||
Poland's not gonna have uh not going to turf out a government on Monday like the French are. | ||
Poland's not hitting to a civil war like uh like the the English are. | ||
Why? | ||
Because they sealed their borders and the and the EU came to says, hey, you're doing this all wrong, you can't do this, you're breaking the laws. | ||
You know what they told him? | ||
Go f yourself. | ||
We're gonna do it, we're gonna do it to protect our culture, we're gonna protect our civilization, we're gonna protect our young people, we're gonna protect, wait for it, our country. | ||
And that's what this fight is here. | ||
Whoever organized that dinner for President Trump to get all the all the the the and that was an AI. | ||
And the AI is totally out of control. | ||
They're gonna try to slip the A AI amnesty. | ||
Remember that we fought that a couple of months ago and got it out of the what the big beautiful bill. | ||
They're gonna try to slip that into the NDAA. | ||
Who warned you about this yesterday? | ||
Jim Banks. | ||
Jim Banks is a safe pair of hands. | ||
Jim Banks does not run around with his hair on fire. | ||
He's a Navy commander, he's a solid guy. | ||
He comes from you know, one of the greatest states in the Union, Indiana. | ||
Hoosers are known for common sense. | ||
What is Jim? | ||
Jim Banks is up there saying, Hey, yo, we got to look at this NVIDIA thing. | ||
These things are out of control right now. | ||
The great Orin Cass is gonna join me after a short commercial break. | ||
We got Ben Harnwell in Rome. | ||
Hopefully, get Raheem at the uh reform conference, maybe get Mo and Grace in South Korea. | ||
We got Philip Patrick a little later. | ||
We're gonna go through all of it this morning in the war room. | ||
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Act is simply an America first uh amendment to the NDAA, the defense bill that's on the floor in the Senate next week. | ||
And it's it's very simple. | ||
It says that you can't export American-made chips to China or other adversarial countries if there is a backlog or demand for those chips in the United States first. | ||
It's as simple as that. | ||
There's nothing that's more America first than making sure that we dominate the race to AI and the technologies of the future rather than helping our biggest enemy dominate us. | ||
So it it's a simple amendment. | ||
It also says that you can't, if you do export chips, if Intel or these big chipmakers export chips to China, they have to guarantee that those chips won't be used against America for economic purposes, against American industries, or even for other military and national security reasons too. | ||
So I don't know how anybody could be against this. | ||
I mean, I I frankly, it's a it is a bit it's in the bill right now. | ||
Um and if we when we pass when we have the the NDAA on the floor next week, I don't know if there will be an effort to strip this out of the bill, but I hope I hope my colleagues on both sides of the aisle will support it because there's nothing more America first and making sure that our chips don't go to our enemies to use against us. | ||
Okay, uh President Trump called this in the subheadline of the Financial Time. | ||
Trump sees anti-U.S. | ||
conspiracies. | ||
We said yesterday on the show for the president, uh, it it's worse than a conspiracy. | ||
It's a flex. | ||
Here, they're trying to take credit for World War II, of which they fought on the side of the Japanese. | ||
Don't ever forget that. | ||
It was the nationalist Chinese with the Americans and the British uh that drove the Japanese out of uh out of uh the mainland of Asia. | ||
But when they say unstoppable force, he means the military, that military is is driven by chips. | ||
We're in a chips war or the great orange cass from American Compass joins me. | ||
Why are guys that are pretty calm like you and Jim Banks lighting your hair on fire about this, sir? | ||
Well, thanks for having me on, Stephen and I want to give credit to to Senator Banks. | ||
He's been fantastic on this issue. | ||
Like like you heard in that clip, there just aren't enough chips out there right now. | ||
I mean, this has been the story for a few years. | ||
U.S. companies that are trying to be leaders in AI for our economy, for our military, are desperate to get as many of these chips as they can. | ||
And then you have companies, and and you know, the worst actor here is really NVIDIA. | ||
I mean, great, great technology company. | ||
They to their credit, they make great chips, and and they are doing everything they can to go sell those chips in China instead of selling them to American companies. | ||
They're cozying up to the CCP in some cases, the Communist Party. | ||
They're actually trying to open a research facility in Shanghai. | ||
And so you now have this uh like Senator Banks said, it's it is the most common sense America first policy possible. | ||
If there's a U.S. company that wants the chips, you have to sell it to the U.S. company and not to the Chinese. | ||
And this is an incredibly important, and and it's just such a great test for the White House for America first. | ||
You have some people in the White House, you have NVIDIA running around saying, no, it's okay, let's sell the chips to China first, and and we just can't let that happen. | ||
Okay, so the Secretary of Commerce um is sitting there on TV saying, well, hey, hey, hey, hang on. | ||
Uh you know, Oren Cass and Bannon and all these guys are all here, that we're not selling the good stuff. | ||
We're selling them, these are second or third-tier uh chips, and so they're not getting the good stuff. | ||
Do you do you buy that, sir? | ||
Well, first of all, I don't buy it. | ||
I mean, it it it's it's it's not true. | ||
And you know, if if these chips weren't so good and they didn't help the Chinese, the Chinese wouldn't be trying to buy them, right? | ||
So just as a matter of common sense, let's recognize we are in a race to develop the the leading computing power, the leading models, and the Chinese are saying, yes, we want these chips, and so uh obviously they are valuable, but but more importantly, with Senator Banks's approach, all he's saying is give U.S. first dibs, right? | ||
If if if these are second, third-tier chips, if US companies don't want them, can't use them, then okay. | ||
But by the way people are upset about this bill, it it exposes the whole thing, right? | ||
The fact that they're saying, Well, no, don't make us sell the chips to the U.S. first, is because they know that in fact the US companies would buy the chips. | ||
And so it just everybody, everybody around that table, all the tech bros, the broligarchs, all of them, Silicon Valley. | ||
The the reason this exists, the reason this exists is the Lords of Easy Money on Wall Street in Silicon Valley and the corporatist that sold us out. | ||
China was a backward agrarian, a third world agrarian country. | ||
It's been built by American capital, American technology. | ||
If we don't want to fight them, and and Orn Cass and Steve Banner are non-interventionists, it doesn't mean we're non-confrontationist. | ||
This must be confronted. | ||
Here's how it's confronted. | ||
You stop playing patty cake with this. | ||
It's a hard decouple. | ||
There's no question and no debate about we're going to sell them chips, they're going to take these chips or great chips or Americans going to get chips. | ||
Screw that. | ||
Number one, cut them off from all capital, all technology. | ||
When I say technology, no technology sales to the Chinese Communist Party or China at all. | ||
Number two, number three, no expertise. | ||
If they're in a U.S. uh corporation, they go home. | ||
If they're in a U.S. research lab, they go home. | ||
Number four, all the students, all 350,000 cancel the visas, they all go home immediately. | ||
You don't train them, there's no expertise, there's no technology, there's no uh there's no bank financing, capital markets, adventure capital, none of it. | ||
In six months, Lao Baijing will be turfing these guys out. | ||
Oh, by the way, you cut off the oil from the Persians because it's supposed to be cut off anyway. | ||
You cut off the oil from the Venezuelans, so it's supposed to be cut off anyway, and you sanction the oil coming out of Russia like we did with India. | ||
You do those steps, they ain't gonna be, they're not gonna be flexing because they're gonna be broke and their people are gonna overthrow them. | ||
Orn Cass isn't our answer here instead of and I love banks, and we've got to put that in there for today. | ||
But the answer is we have to have a national conversation. | ||
We're either gonna let American corporatist and Lords of Easy Money on Wall Street continue to finance them because they're in business with them. | ||
Why do you think Nvidia is in the white what they're sitting there talking about chips and they're backdooring us all the time? | ||
Why are we even having these conversations? | ||
Here's the answer no chips. | ||
The answer is zero. | ||
The answer is zero on all the technology, all the kids are here, 350,000. | ||
It's not about the kids, but they got to sign a paper, they gotta be almost an intelligence agent. | ||
How about this? | ||
Your visa is canceled and you go home tomorrow, and 350,000 spaces are available for wait for it, American kids, right? | ||
And Howard Lutnik's saying, well, the bottom 10% of the colleges are going to business. | ||
I don't give a damn. | ||
Let them go out of business. | ||
If they're living off foreign students, I don't care. | ||
This is about American and American students. | ||
Orin Cass. | ||
Are you with me on hard decoupling or is that too radical an idea, sir? | ||
We we've actually written the paper called A Hard Break with China. | ||
I've I've even given up using the word decoupling because I think people think it sounds, you know, soft and we'll work it out and you know, sort of like Gwyneth, what was Gwyneth Paltrow's term, the the conscious decoupling. | ||
Uh I think we I think we need a hard break. | ||
And I especially appreciate you making that point about, you know, this has been going on for a generation. | ||
I mean, it's one thing if in the year 2000 you think, oh, let's go do business in China, we'll get a foothold, we'll build a great business there, to still be saying that in in 2025. | ||
I mean, Nvidia is trying to say like you have to let us sell chips there so we can establish American leadership in China. | ||
It's it's like Charlie Brown with Lucy in the football. | ||
I I don't know how you can seriously think at this point, you're gonna build a constructive, profitable relationship with China in the long run, is just a short-term cash grab that that completely sells out the actual American interests in the long term. | ||
Orin, help me out here, because you're like I said, a state study pair of hands. | ||
We know that technology is a driver of the American economy, we've got that. | ||
But when you have those demons, on the day that Bobby Kennedy testifies, and it's a star chamber, right? | ||
It's an Inquisition, and they all come out and they're trying to fire him. | ||
Look, the fight for Bobby Kennedy's a long way from over. | ||
And if we're gonna keep the Maha, make America healthy again, and make America great again coalition that gave us the huge victory in November of 2024, Bobby Kennedy's got to be saved. | ||
How do you have who at the White House tells President Trump, let's have a dinner that night with the very people that had the technology that suppressed all the voices that were coming out against the vaccine mandates, and you had the with two of the worst demons. | ||
You got uh you've got uh Zuckerberg, who is a criminal, right? | ||
And now he's in, we're in federal court with him in the FTC trying to break up Facebook. | ||
I don't know if it's appropriate to put him next to the president of the United States at a dinner. | ||
And also Gates, who's the worst guy in the world on vaccines. | ||
Am I am I hammering the tech broligarchs too hard? | ||
Or should we gotta have a the MAGA movement has to have a uh we we have to get this sorted now. | ||
They're not they don't they don't bring any votes. | ||
The Maha movement brings millions of votes, right? | ||
The these guys bring no votes. | ||
They bring cash, but tell trust me, if we lose in 2026 or President Trump doesn't win again in 2028, they're gonna they're all progressive Democrats, they're gonna be back over the other side. | ||
They're gonna be baying for Trump to go to prison. | ||
Orren Cash, your thoughts. | ||
Well, President Trump's not eligible to run for president in 2028, but but whoever is running, I I think it's certainly important to have uh a much more sort of level playing field in our media than we've seen in the past. | ||
I think the one nice thing that we've seen is that you know uh what you're really seeing from these tech bros is uh I don't think they actually care about the politics very much at all. | ||
The they'll just respond to incentives, and and when all the incentives were uh to to cozy up to the you know progressive less left wing woke folks, they they you know all stampeded that direction. | ||
I think it's actually a good thing that they're seeing, oh no, that's right, you know, sometimes one side is gonna be in power, sometimes the other side is gonna be in power. | ||
We we gotta be in a position to uh you know maybe get along with both. | ||
What's important, what we need to see more from the Trump administration is is the clear com conditions or demands. | ||
Okay, what what what what are the things you have to do if you do want to be at the table in the White House? | ||
And I think, you know, and and we see this with a lot of of big business right now generally, and and as we're just talking about with something like NVIDIA is probably the worst example of it. | ||
There are still some folks in the White House who have the attitude that, like, you know, well, whatever corporations want, we should just do. | ||
And almost every time they go down that path, it ends up looking bad for the White House, it looks bad for the president. | ||
Uh, and then ultimately it's bad for the country. | ||
So we need to make sure the people advising the president, we need to make sure the president are focused not on thinking, well, you know, this person's a CEO, he's very rich. | ||
I'm sure he's I'm sure he makes sense and is thinking about what's good for America, and and realize that that's just not their priority. | ||
It's it's the president's job, it's the administration's job to be focused on what's good for the country, and then make sure that that American corporations are are operating within that. | ||
Warren Posse, Warren Cass is one of the smartest guys we have and one of the smartest guys on populist nationalist economics. | ||
But I have not read him in yet to Trump 28, and I promise I would do that this weekend. | ||
Or in Cass. | ||
You're one of my favorite people. | ||
Where do people, what's your coordinates, where do people go for uh to support uh Jim Banks and this effort, where they go, uh your social media, the site, the magazine, all of it. | ||
Your book, your great new book, where they go. | ||
Well, I'm uh I'm on X at underscore Cass. | ||
Uh American Compass is the organization. | ||
Our magazine is is commonplace. | ||
You can subscribe at commonplace.org. | ||
And for uh a lot of the background on on these big ideas we're working on, we we just put out this book called The New Conservatives that talks about what uh, you know, not just President Trump, but now Secretary of State Rubio and Vice President Vance and folks like Senator Banks, uh all of the folks who I think are building the future of the conservative movement, tries to kind of lay out a lot of the ideas that that are behind it. | ||
So uh hope hope folks will check it out. | ||
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Appreciate you. | ||
Thank you. | ||
The bat the battle is engaged. | ||
Um do you understand this? | ||
One of the things I'm very proud of, because remember, the um and Joe Allen is going to be um I'm kind of obsessed with this, aren't I? | ||
I think it's the third day in a row I've done it. | ||
Why? | ||
Because this is signal, not noise. | ||
The most important thing that came out of here, the Shanghai meeting and the and the parade was not the parade, the flex, the show of military strength, the trying to take credit for World War II because they need legitimacy. | ||
What was the most important thing? | ||
It was Putin and Xi and that hot mic comment, where they talked about these are two of the three most powerful men in the world, the third being in the White House, Donald Trump. | ||
What were they talking about when they had time for themselves? | ||
Transhumanism. | ||
They were talking about today that they could live for 125 or 150 years. | ||
How are they going to do it? | ||
Live organ harvesting. | ||
But they were talking about technologies that are coming that are going to lead to this came out of she's lips. | ||
Immortality. | ||
The convergence. | ||
This is why we've covered transhumanism so strongly. | ||
Ben Harnwell in Rome, Joe Allen on transhumanism. | ||
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Evidently Britain is on the brink of civil war, and that's according to Donald Trump's former uh chief strategist Steve Bannon. | |
He's warned that radical Islam is fueling unrest here at home and across Europe. | ||
James, is he right? | ||
Absolutely not. | ||
This comes, and here I will say Steve Bannon is a racist, and this um Well, because it's can it's concerned about No, no, no, no, because of things that he has said and done, including in this particular piece. | ||
But let me let me come to let me come to the let me come to where this comes from. | ||
In the United States, there is a long-standing feverish dream on the extreme right. | ||
Matt knows about this, he's researched it, I'm sure, of the idea of a coming race war. | ||
And this doesn't come from concern for the people of the US, it comes from a particular fringe of the ultra-white supremacist, white nationalist right, which Steve Bannon uh flirts with at best. | ||
And the I and it's not based in reality, it's not based in concern for the people in the US. | ||
And this is trying to transplant it onto here. | ||
He touches base, there's some hinge points because a uh democratic socialist called Zora Mandani is the front runner to become the next mayor of New York. | ||
And uh the this is of course horrific for Banner, not on the basis of his socialism, but on the on the basis that he is a Muslim. | ||
And the idea that we are about to have a civil war in Britain is plainly nonsense. | ||
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It's lots of people do feel that there is unrest, Matt. | |
Well, a civil, a civil war. | ||
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Just just put provide some context for the comments because it is also true, as um people following the the Westminster debate know that Steve Bannon is not the only person to say that we have a social contract in this country that is rapidly collapsing. | |
Professor David Betts at UCL, who is a very respected academic who has worked on civil conflict and and civil wars in developing states for many years. | ||
He's looked at that literature, the academic literature, and he said, look, these are the things that you tend to see in societies that that morph into conflict. | ||
And he's looked at the UK today and he said, basically, you have a couple of things that make him very concerned. | ||
Just briefly, there's two things. | ||
One is you have this very tense and and deteriorating relationship between the elites and the masses, between politicians and voters, and we can all feel that. | ||
We don't really, a lot of people out there don't everyone would agree. | ||
Don't respect Westminster. | ||
So you've got that. | ||
But then on top of that, as we saw, for example, in the Hare Hills riots or in South End, or in, you know, you could argue in in the aftermath of Southport in certain neighborhoods. | ||
You have organized inter-ethnic uh tension uh that is that is sort of mobilizing on group lines. | ||
And and I think I'm right in saying, and I wouldn't put words into his mouth, but I think I'm right in saying that David Betts is saying, look, the the factors that you would expect to see in a society that ends up having a very high conflict situation are already present in the UK. | ||
Who is the who is a young progressive? | ||
Right? | ||
You see how they go, oh my god, they're all racist, they're everything. | ||
No. | ||
It's coming. | ||
It could be averted, but it's uh it's gonna take a ton of work. | ||
Uh in Nigel Farage is today at the reform conference, which reform has in polling today, and this is a uh a political party created out of whole cloth, right? | ||
Remember, we helped Nigel with Brexit, Rahim Kassam ran that. | ||
Raheem Gassan ran Breitbart London for me, so we've been on this for I don't know, 12, 13 years, 15 years maybe. | ||
Uh that's where I met Ben Harnwald during that time. | ||
This is the 10th year anniversary of Merkel inviting in one million Syrian refugees which started it all in in the continent, and England's been more and more out of control. | ||
Reform today polls, if you add the Tories who have been around for 250 years, and Labor, the current government, add them together, and I think the reforms five points up. | ||
Ben Harnwell, give me your give me your your thoughts, particularly our our progressive colleague there really going after us. | ||
So a bunch of racists, nativists, we're bad guys, right? | ||
Um, firstly, you heard a couple of names mentioned in that segment. | ||
Firstly, um, if it's not too um early to do so, I think we're gonna have Matt Goodwin on the show on our Friday um uh uh war room battleground uh 6 p.m. | ||
Um and he mentioned David Betts. | ||
Well, of course, viewers of the war room will remember David Bitts because we had him on the show uh a couple of weeks ago to explore precisely that thesis that you know as an expert in failing states, you can apply those criteria to failing states to the UK today. | ||
But I just want to respond to what Brother Schneider was saying there, Steve. | ||
Um first uh I I I mean I don't quite know where to start. | ||
However, let's just go from the most essential things first. | ||
Islam is not a race, it's a religion, it's an ideology. | ||
You can you can think what you like to uh to Islam, you can say it's a false religion, you say it's not based on the true revolution, revelation of God to mankind. | ||
That's obviously Jesus Christ. | ||
Um you can say all of these things, it doesn't make you a racist. | ||
You you perhaps you can apply the word Islamophobic, and you can say whether you want to be defined by that or not. | ||
Um but I think it's absolutely legitimate. | ||
But the point is, that guy, what he's saying, I know we've got a break coming along now, but what that guy is saying is full in your face to the great to Great Britain where it is at the moment. | ||
Any even a cursory scroll through of any social media platform will show you what is going on right now in the UK. | ||
And sadly, look, GB News has some great commentators on it. | ||
Uh it also has some that are slightly missing the mark. | ||
The momentum is clearly now going uh in the favor of the white working class who are trying to retake the the UK back, and that I think is why GB News on that segment is ever so slightly behind the curve on that. | ||
And of course, we explored this in detail on last night's uh Warwin Battleground as well. | ||
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Hang on one second. | ||
Ben Harnwell's in Rome, absolutely dead spot on. | ||
The great Joe Allen, all things transhumanism, where we talk about the tech bros. | ||
We got a lot to cover. | ||
And hour two, we're gonna leave you with the right stuff. | ||
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