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Sept. 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4756: Meltdown At The Kennedy Hearing; Cuts To Defense Fund
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dave brat
16:59
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dave walsh
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naomi wolf
08:32
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dr naomi wolf
02:28
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elizabeth warren
01:38
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mike lindell
01:38
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robert f kennedy-jr
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ron wyden
01:23
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wade miller
02:35
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jake tapper
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mark warner
00:45
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steve bannon
00:46
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ron wyden
Now the American Academy of Pediatrics has warned that the committee is being politicized at the expense of children's health.
American Academy of Pediatrics, you think they're lying too?
robert f kennedy-jr
I think the American Academy of Pediatrics is gravely conflicted.
They get their biggest contributors of the four largest vaccine makers.
They run a journal pediatrics, which they make a lot of money on.
That is completely dependent on pharmaceutical companies.
So I don't think I wouldn't put a big stake in what they say that benefits pharmaceutical interest.
Senator, I didn't politicize ACEP.
depoliticize it.
Congress has been investigating it.
ron wyden
But all over the country, Mr. Secretary, Scientists and doctors are saying otherwise.
They're all wrong too.
They're all lying, according to you.
robert f kennedy-jr
The scientists and doctors are supporting me all over the country.
There is division on opinion.
ron wyden
I don't get letters from thousands of people who are not political saying that this set of changes is going to damage American health care and particularly these health care agencies for decades to come.
I don't get any letters from people saying it's going to make a big difference forever.
robert f kennedy-jr
Maybe you're listening to a selective group of people.
I will tell you what, Senator I will put my mailbag against your mailbag.
ron wyden
I got 20 days.
Dangerous respiratory viruses like RSV are on the agenda for the next advisory meeting.
Countless parents have been awakened in the dead of night by a wheezing kid gasping for air, forced to rush their little one to the ER.
There's no worse heart-wrenching fear.
The RSB vaccine offers these kids protection against the worst effects of the virus.
But now it looks like you're on a crusade to make infants and babies more vulnerable to the terrible illness.
That's what we're doing with the COVID changes.
unidentified
And please make your answer brief, Mr. Secretary.
ron wyden
I've said it indefensible.
I think it's possible.
robert f kennedy-jr
Congress has been investigating that committee for 23 years because it is it is pervaded with conflicts of interest.
What we did is we got rid of the conflicts of interest and we put we depoliticize it and put great scientists on it from a very diverse group.
Let me close very, very pro-vaccine.
elizabeth warren
You tell America that all adults and all children over six months of age are eligible to get a COVID booster at their local pharmacy today.
robert f kennedy-jr
Anybody can get the booster.
elizabeth warren
I'm sorry?
robert f kennedy-jr
Anybody can get it.
unidentified
Anybody.
elizabeth warren
So you're saying that is now the official rule of HHS.
Anybody is eligible to get a booster by just walking into the pharmacy.
robert f kennedy-jr
It's not recommended for healthy people.
elizabeth warren
No, no.
If you don't recommend, then the consequence of that in many states is that you can't walk into a pharmacy and get one.
It means insurance companies don't have to cover the $200 or so cost.
As Senator Dr. Cassidy said, you are effectively denying people vaccines.
robert f kennedy-jr
We're not going to recommend a product for which there is no clinical data for that indication.
Would you is that what I should be doing?
elizabeth warren
What you should be doing is honoring your promise that you made when you were looking to get confirmed in this job.
robert f kennedy-jr
You're going like this.
elizabeth warren
That is, you promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them.
You just changed the classification of the COVID vaccine.
robert f kennedy-jr
I'm not taking them away from people, Senator.
elizabeth warren
It takes it away if you can't get it from your pharmacy.
robert f kennedy-jr
Well, most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.
Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.
elizabeth warren
The question is, everyone who wants it, that was your promise.
robert f kennedy-jr
I never promised that I was going to recommend products for which there is no indication.
When you said And I know you've taken $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies, Senator.
elizabeth warren
Did you hold up a big sign saying that you were lying when you said that?
Because you are the one who said you would not take them away.
Now, Senator I'm not taking them away from Edith.
Secretary.
unidentified
You want me to indicate a product for which there is no clinical data?
robert f kennedy-jr
Is that what you want?
elizabeth warren
Secretary Kennedy, you said you wouldn't, and now you did.
robert f kennedy-jr
I'm not taking them away.
Everybody can get access to them.
elizabeth warren
No, they can't walk into a pharmacy the way they could last month and get access to the city.
robert f kennedy-jr
It depends on the state.
It depends on the states.
elizabeth warren
A year ago.
robert f kennedy-jr
But they can still get it.
elizabeth warren
Everybody can get it.
robert f kennedy-jr
Everybody can get it, Senator.
elizabeth warren
So look, let's move on.
You clearly are taking away vaccines.
unidentified
Do you believe COVID-19 was politicized?
robert f kennedy-jr
Yeah, the whole process was politicized.
Senator, I mean, uh we were lied to about everything.
We were lied to about um about natural immunity.
We're lied to about, you know, we were told again and again the vaccines would prevent transmission, they'd prevent infection.
It wasn't true.
He knew it from the start, it wasn't true because that's what the animal studies and the clinical trial showed.
We were told that there was science behind clause mass.
The um the CDC allowed the teachers' union to write the order closing our schools, which hurt working people all over the country, and then pretend it was science-based.
All of these issues, and then I can show you, like, for example, Chairman Wyden was talking about me politicizing ASIP during COVID.
The probably the most famous scientists on ACIP was Martin Coulder from Harvard the Great, now world-renowned epidemiologists and vaccinologists.
And he criticized the COVID booster mandates.
They ejected him from COVID because he wasn't in the orthodoxy.
The two biggest health officials at FDA during COVID, Dr. Gruber and Dr. Krause, criticized the Biden mandates vaccine.
You know, President Biden said in August, I would never take that vaccine, the Trump vaccine.
And he came in, he mandated it, and then he fired the two top health officials at FDA who said, hey, this thing has not been properly tested.
So the whole process was politicized, and even today.
steve bannon
So let me this is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
you you Thank you.
dave brat
All right, everybody.
Dave Brant in the war room for the great Stephen K. Bannon.
Uh Stephen K. Bannon's downtown giving a stem winder to uh NATCON.
Can't wait to see the headlines coming out of that.
He shared a few lines with me earlier today.
It's going to be a good one.
So uh follow him.
I was going to be on the show a couple days ago, but uh news events overtook things.
I just want to point everyone's attention.
I know you probably don't follow the New York Times every day, but a couple of interesting articles, back-to-back opinion pieces.
New York Times, Cass Sunstein, you know, Obama fame and all that.
Uh and then the next day, another one from one of the big uh more liberal writers.
Uh, but they're they're making uh reproach back to classical liberalism, right?
To uh be uh open, tolerant uh conversations, rational discourse, openness.
Uh when you whenever you hear the term openness, right?
It's pervaded the uh university campuses in our country.
I've worked on the campuses for the last 30 or 40 years.
And uh sounds neat uh until you see what the liberal project results in.
And uh for anybody who wants a remedy or a or a quick study on that, read Alan Bloom, right?
University of Chicago, great uh philosopher, uh closing the American Mind, it's a great book.
On uh that he blisters the concept of openness, which came to us from uh philosopher named uh Carl Popper, who had a brain, but now it's gone into Soros land.
So when you see Soros and the folks doing openness and pushing openness, in it you gotta ask in juxtaposition to what?
And it's in juxtaposition to just the American classical uh setup of inalienable rights under law.
But the reason I bring it up right now is you just saw a blistering leftist assault on RFK Jr.
I you know, I think if anybody sees that, their heart just goes out to them.
It was so bad.
And then the Democrats are bad enough.
I'll political user my own.
But then our guy, Republican Dr. Cassidy says, I'm just gonna approach this as a medical doctor.
Uh we're just gonna do science, uh, no uh no politics here.
And he goes into just a tirade.
I mean, I think he's got you know Trump derangement syndrome or something.
Folks, Louisiana, you ought to give your senator a call.
That that was not that not one scientific thing about his discourse.
Uh he didn't go after RFK on on one testable proposition, just a bunch of narrative gobbledygook.
So to help us decipher uh this mess, uh we have brought in the real doctor, Dr. Naomi Wolf.
Uh Doctor, thanks for being with us on the war room.
Great to have you.
And uh, why do you just launch and give us your view?
You're more skilled than I am in this uh realm of medicine, spend your life's work, so uh have at it.
Thanks for being with us, Doctor.
dr naomi wolf
Well, thank you so much for having me.
It's great to see you again and great to be with the posse again, of course.
Um I I'm not a medical doctor, just full disclosure.
naomi wolf
I I'm uh I have a defil in uh literature, but I did have the incredible experience of helping to oversee this project that Steve Bannon launched and that the posse um brought to uh fruition, which did oversee 3,500 medical doctors and scientists in reading through the 3,500 uh documents released under court order by Pfizer.
So I do know a lot um from overseeing these 105 reports about what the fight was about um that you just uh showed clips from.
So I I will launch in.
Um it's you know, I've been critical of RFK Junior in the recent past because I wanted him to move faster and more directly on pulling, especially the COVID vaccine off the market.
I mean, that's the one that due to the work we did on these two books, um, there and the evidence from Pfizer's own internal documentation, there is no way to make the case at this point in history, because the evidence is out there in public, that's safe and effective.
Pfizer concluded a month after rollout that it was neither safe nor effective, that it didn't work.
Um more people died or were hospitalized with the vaccine than without.
Um you can't make the case that it prevents transmission, even they don't make the case that prevents transmission.
It doesn't.
So all those mandates and don't have grammar role.
You know, you it it has catastrophic side effects.
We're seeing horrific excess deaths, as um the former Black Ralph Hedge fund manager at Dowd has magisterially demonstrated with his data analysis, and we're also seeing catastrophic drops in live births, a 13 to 20% drop in live births, according to government data sets, especially in the Western world, including in North America.
I was just in Europe, and there are a million missing babies in Europe, and we know why.
Um this injection causes sterilization or miscarriage or spontaneous abortion in a plethora of ways.
So having said all of that, uh, a lot of things are kind of coming to a head that people should know about that preceded this fight in the Senate and all this yelling.
One of the things that really changed the chess board is that President Trump tweeted a really interesting tweet, I would say three or four days ago, in which he basically said Pfizer had shown him wonderful data, presumably about how effective and safe this injection was.
Um, and the implication was when they were leading up to the release during Operation Warp Speed.
And now he's calling on Pfizer to release it to the public.
And I think he's saying, did you show me real data?
Let the public assess it.
Or did you lie to me?
unidentified
So he really put Pfizer on the spot, and I'll pick up after the break if you'd like me to pro.
dave brat
You heard the music coming in.
Nay Wolf.
She's great.
Yeah, the uh, you know, the the conversation there, Senator Mark Warner from uh Virginia, who just irritates me to no end, uh, you know, tried to pin Kennedy as well.
We'll get back to this uh with Naomi too.
But you know, he said he said, you know, you you your ignorance, how many people died from COVID?
And Kennedy gave a truthful answer.
You know, I he I think he's just a good guy, right?
He he's not playing politics.
He said, We don't know, we don't know the number.
And then Warner said, So you're admitting on national TV you don't know the number, right?
And then he did the same on a couple other things, just getting the sound clip ready to go that he doesn't know how many people died, and then whether the offset uh of his work has been on net good.
And uh, but the strongest thing uh that he said uh was uh you guys, all you senators have been sitting in those chairs for 25 years uh while our kids have been having very adverse uh health effects, right?
And that that's just damning, right?
You all have been sitting there for 25 years, you never brought these questions up before.
Uh you're bringing them up to me, and everything I'm doing is transparent.
It's out there.
And I'm gonna get back into that uh after the break with Naomi.
There's transparency is key.
Platinum science, transparency.
Stay with us after the break.
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mark warner
Just again, some basic facts.
Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID?
robert f kennedy-jr
I don't know how many died.
mark warner
You're the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
You don't have any idea how many Americans died from COVID?
robert f kennedy-jr
I don't think anybody knows because the it was so much data chaos coming out of the CDC.
And there was a incentives.
And these are modeling.
mark warner
This is the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Do you think the vaccine did anything to prevent additional deaths?
robert f kennedy-jr
Again, I would like to see the data and talk about the data.
mark warner
You have had this job for eight months, and you don't know the data about whether the vaccine's the problem is that they didn't have the data.
robert f kennedy-jr
The data by the Biden administration absolutely dismal.
mark warner
So when Ada came out.
So you who is politicizing?
You're saying the Biden administration politicized all the data?
Go back to what camp well just fired Trump surgeon general.
robert f kennedy-jr
They fired Dr. Ground.
They fired all the people who questioned the orthodoxy.
They fired Dr. Gruber, Dr. Kaut.
mark warner
So, Chairman, the Secretary of Health and Human Services doesn't know how many Americans died from COVID.
dave brat
All right.
Uh War Room, there's your genteel Virginia gentleman, uh, Mark Warner, being, you know, just a truth teller, tell it like it is.
RFK Jr., right?
I mean, it is hard when you're up there.
I would I've been in the middle of that thing.
It's just a it's just a firing line.
It's awful uh when they're all hitting you.
But I would ask Warner right back.
Hey, since you're the genius and you know everything, what's the number?
How many died?
What's the number?
I don't have the number, right?
It's it's not a matter of ignorance.
There's there's no good data.
That's the problem, and a lot of it was juiced up or whatever.
Uh Naomi, you want to tee off on some of these uh points from the senators and uh just bring the warm up to see what is what what is RFK Jr. know uh what is to be decided, how good is the process?
They're all talking they want to do science.
He says we're gonna do platinum science and uh and it's gonna be fully transparent.
And I believe the guy, I like the guy.
naomi wolf
He's I mean, I should say up front, he's he's being heroic.
I mean, he's he's standing firm, he's standing on science, he's standing on truth, and and what the American people can clearly see again and again in these exchanges is that he is trying to tell our representatives and our senators,
you know what is missing in the science that he inherited and and how ill-served uh the American people have been in a horrible emergency in which they were lied to continuously, or as he was trying to point out just now, the data were botched or outsourced or you know, illegally handled, actually, in in many cases.
And he was about to point out that a lot of the data is modeling, which is just imaginary numbers.
Um, but I think what the American people have clearly seen, and I think he did a wonderful job being on offense and sticking, trying to stick to the facts and trying to be heard, even though he was being kind of silenced and shouted at, is the American people have clearly seen that their senators are bought and paid for by Big Pharma.
Uh RFK Jr., Secretary Kennedy said that clearly several times to Bernie Sanders and to uh Elizabeth Warren, and he named numbers and you know, $850,000 to Elizabeth Warren, and she, you know, tried to speak right over him, and he forced that issue so assertively and in such a kind of go on the offense way that Bernie Sanders actually had to say, are you saying, you know, Brittany smoked out Bernie Sanders completely?
Bernie Sanders said, everyone here has taken money from Pharma.
dr naomi wolf
We know Pharma is corrupt, but they pay all of us.
naomi wolf
Are you are you saying that we're all corrupt because we take Pharma money?
dr naomi wolf
Uh so the American people have clearly seen who's paying for their senators, and that the senators are jumping through hoops for their employers, shouting for the you know, nearly a million dollars or more that they are getting uh seems like annually, was a little unclear from the shouting.
naomi wolf
Um, and and that and RFK Jr. quitted himself really admirably in trying to to people watching this have had enough science to know that his answers kept returning to what would make the science solid and thus what would keep them safe.
dr naomi wolf
You know, and even when he was saying they fired people who raised questions about the booster, Martin Kohldorf, a world famous uh epidemiologist, virologist from Harvard, um he he did right to continue to go back to the science and back to trying to depoliticize it and to make it transparent.
naomi wolf
Now he is in some impossible positions because they all want him to just you know roll out the COVID injection with no hesitation and recommend it because billions of dollars are at stake with that, and he to his credit won't, but he also hasn't completely withdrawn it.
So he is in a difficult gray area, a difficult to defend gray area.
I mean, everyone's kind of mad at him, right?
Our side is mad at him because he hasn't pulled it, and their side is mad at him because he has because he is not providing it, you know, with no testing for free.
dr naomi wolf
I mean, just as he said, do you want me to give you a product that has no safety efficacy data?
dave brat
Right.
dr naomi wolf
Um, but I do want to say one more thing.
Things are really escalating because what's at stake here isn't just another piece of theater.
It's not just yet again, as with the confirmation hearings, as you all recall initially for Senator Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy, sorry, um, it's not just another, you know, ritual of shouting senators.
naomi wolf
Because this time it seems as if President Trump may be moving into alignment with RFK Jr. about this issue, or at least raising the right questions at last, which has been a long journey.
dr naomi wolf
And I also want to tell people another data point is Pfizer replied to President Trump on their own website this week, just a day or two ago, saying uh we'll get um President Trump the data by the end of the month, and um some of it is here on our website.
naomi wolf
So that's not that's like a dog eat my homework answer from Pfizer.
And and the reason this is escalating, and I promise is the last thing I'll say, is that given that exchange with the leader of the free world and Pfizer, um, who's paid all of these people that you see yelling at Secretary Kennedy, it's not just is this a botched product?
dr naomi wolf
What's at stake if this moves ahead with President Trump and RFK Jr. finally in alignment on this issue?
And and President Trump realizing he was lied to by Pfizer, which I'm sure he will not like.
Um, it's a massive criminal, it's a massive crime scene.
naomi wolf
I mean, there there are crimes upon crimes from fraud, battery, violation of the Nuremberg Code, um, you know, uh manslaughter, I mean, criminal offenses, civil offenses, even with the PrEP Act, if the power of the White House gets behind HHS, which hasn't been the case.
You know, there have been two camps.
So it is a very dangerous moment for the people who took all that money and participated in this crime.
dave brat
Yeah, I'm glad you're hey, uh, we're uh our other folks are having technical difficulties, so you go as long as you want, Naomi.
But uh since I have a Renaissance scholar on with me, I I fear not only the tremendous corruption and illegality uh that you just meant, but the discussion in the nation when it comes to truth claims, right?
Uh I taught you know history of thought forever.
There's no discussion of what truth is anymore, right?
And uh this sounds a little boring, but if you're young people, if you haven't read Plato's Republic, you know, he was in search of the truth.
He didn't hit it, but everything else is a footnote, they say, uh, to Plato, right?
And on and on and on.
Aristotle tried it.
And then recently we come up to this what the school of thought, this logical positivism, and Carl Popper and Popper said, uh, you can't ever reach truth either.
All you can do is falsify, right?
So yeah, if you have a hypothesis, hypothesis that's sitting out there, you can knock it down, but uh what you have standing there isn't truth.
And so, boy, this really makes the mind, you know, it it hurts the American soul like that.
People want to believe that people are telling the truth.
Milton Friedman in economics wasn't happy with that.
He went after it, and he's a genius, and he couldn't figure it out.
And so I just give us some comments.
The American people and the young people, uh, what should inspire them, how they should engage in thought in general and question these senators who are just hacks, uh, with a decent guy like Kennedy sitting there getting assaulted.
And and the people who are voting for these hacks, you know, we can do better, but uh Naomi, you fire away.
A couple minutes.
naomi wolf
Well, I mean, I love that you're asking the question.
dr naomi wolf
You know, these are the questions we need to ask, especially our generations need to ask these questions to leave the younger generations a an intellectual framework that's also a moral framework, you know, that is not nothing but a giant mess of moral relativism.
naomi wolf
Um I I it's funny.
I was just before I got on camera thinking about for some reason my linguistics professor at Yale, who spent the whole semester, and this was very fashionable at Yale in the 80s, and this was kind of in the language space.
dr naomi wolf
Um parallel to what you're talking about.
naomi wolf
Uh it was called um post-structuralism.
And the his basic thesis is that you can't find meaning in language.
You can always deconstruct language, you can't know what the author meant, everything is indeterminate.
Um, and then you extend that to anthropology.
You know, all cultures are equally valid.
dr naomi wolf
Doesn't matter if someone's cannibal, that's their cultural practice.
naomi wolf
You know, and you you see this manifesting in in Britain, you know, when people who are detained for rape, who come from rape cultures say, well, this is part of our culture.
I, you know, I have no idea why you're detaining me.
dr naomi wolf
Um my point is you're a thousand percent right.
naomi wolf
The degradation really began in the 60s in the academy, but you know, got a lot of momentum from the 80s to the present.
And I would say for sure, um, truth has been is an unpopular, unfashionable ideal, like nations like history, um, like me.
Uh and yeah.
dave brat
Good.
Back with Naomi.
That's wonderful.
Thank you for that, Naomi.
And and Alan Bloom again, closing the American mind.
He's got some funny, sarcastic tongue in cheek.
You gotta get deep into weeds, but you know, they they the great uh Ivy League schools, they sent out the anthropologists and sociologists a hundred years ago out to find these uh, you know, Rousseauian uh noble savages, these people, our batters, our moral batters because they're simpler.
Uh, and instead what they found is uh not so noble savages, and they came back and reported it.
Didn't I go along with the uh the liberals and the liberals are good, the leftists we got a problem back with Naomi Wolf in a minute to discuss the the meaning of all things.
unidentified
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Use your host, Stephen K. All right, everybody.
dave brat
Dave Bratt in the war room, uh sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon with Naomi Wolf.
Uh, I want to uh go into a little bit of topic of the the instability we're gonna face economically going up.
You know, my favorite chart comes from Robert Gordon.
Long run trend productivity going down for the past 70 years.
Uh Trump's doing everything he can to turn that around, bringing capital in.
It's all good.
We're gonna have a little instability in the short run, uh, probably.
Uh he's doing everything right.
Uh we got major good moves.
The rest of the show is gonna be about all that.
Uh, but we're at 37 trillion in debt right now.
CBO, Congressional Budget Office has us two trillion dollar deficits for the next 10 years.
So that's 20 trillion extra debt in the next 10.
So 37 and 20 is 57 trillion in debt.
Uh that's not sustainable.
The the only good news is that uh England uh is gonna be the first mover.
They're gonna plunge first, right?
England, France, Germany, they're at zero percent growth uh right now.
Uh so they're gonna be a marker and they're gonna be a warning sign.
And so uh in these times, uh and and I I just have to throw in, I always forget sometimes to make the most basic point.
The Federal Reserve Bank is accommodating, right?
There's this debate on these little moves that the Federal Reserve makes.
They're accommodating two trillion dollar deficits every year without question.
The Congress never asks them, why are you accommodating?
You're you're supposed to be in charge of the economy.
You do all this other projects uh under the unemployment moniker.
Uh, but you're not managing the economy when it's when it comes to putting seven trillion dollars into our federal government, right?
Unproductive, seven trillion dollars.
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All right, uh back.
Naomi Wolf, Dr. Naomi Wolf has been with us doing a super job uh surveying the news of the day with RFK Jr.
Uh Naomi, how do people reach you?
Uh what name a book or two you might uh recommend to the young people of the country to get their heads on straight.
There you go.
That's a good one.
That's for advanced readers.
unidentified
Thank you.
dr naomi wolf
I just wanted to mention this one because um we brought it yesterday to the European Parliament and presented this information at the European Parliament.
naomi wolf
And uh in fact, we were censored in Europe.
So I do want to ask everyone to go to that presentation and hand share it with friends in Europe because they can't they can't listen to it.
Again, that it's Steve Bannon's book and imprint, um, and the posse supported it.
So that's very important.
Uh also another amazing thing people can do is go over to legissector.com, which is our new um digital product that lets you share and learn about live legislation affecting your industry or your sector or your issue.
Um, and then finally you can follow me on at Naomi R. Wolf on X and Getter, and um over on Substack.
My Substack is called Outspoken.
dave brat
Very good.
unidentified
Awesome.
dave brat
Thanks, Naomi.
Thanks for all you do.
naomi wolf
Keep it up.
Thank you so much.
Take care.
dave brat
You bet.
All right, David Walsh is with us.
Uh, energy news uh breaking big time.
Uh Secretary of Energy uh says uh his main concern is electricity prices uh for the average homeowner.
And so, you know, AI, artificial intelligence, huge energy drain.
There's MIT professors that say, yeah, maybe that's not it.
There's a lag on that kind of thing.
Uh so we got the expert uh coming in.
Dave Walsh, uh, what do you make of that story?
This electrical shortages.
You've been on this for years.
Why we're having shortages.
Uh, what's what what what's the current state of affairs and how do we get out of it?
dave walsh
Well, David, years ago I had a boss when I was young, man, who said, Well, you Walsh, you need to stop worrying about this and do something about it.
So this is the Secretary of Energy, Chris.
Listen, we know you're worried, we don't see you doing much.
Here's the issue.
Solar power in this country is the thing.
We just had the Secretary Duffy cancel six hundred and eighty million of federal funding for twelve offshore wind farms.
That's great.
That's great.
But I'm here to tell you offshore wind is only about twenty percent of the renewables being applied.
Uh solar power is far less valuable, far less capacity factor, works far lesser time of the day on average across the country, only four point eight hours.
That's what's going on now, not offshore wind, not onshore wind, solar, and people are paying the price.
It's six times more costly than conventional combined cycle power that we've become accustomed to.
We're only building solar farms, utilities in red get this red and blue states alike, going crazy, allowing the build out of this.
This year, for example, across the country, according to Chris's DOE data, ninety-one percent of new capacity power in the country this year being built is solar battery storage and a little bit of wind.
dave brat
So I'll do really say that again.
Nine what what percent?
What percent of the new energy?
dave walsh
Ninety-one percent.
New power plant.
dave brat
Ninety one percent year.
Wow.
dave walsh
Will be solar battery storage and a little bit of wind.
dave brat
So wind is how do we get out of it?
What what what does he need to do?
dave walsh
We need to throw our bodies in front of the Chinese importation.
Chinese imports are 87% of solar panels, 87% of battery storage, about sixty percent of inverters, all coming from China.
Trade deal be damned.
We've got to throw our bodies in front of that.
And these the two year extension of the incentives is causing developers and utilities alike, utilities who are massive Republican donors, utilities who are Republican donors, such as FTL here in Florida, with a ten billion dollar rate increase that they're trying to jam down ratepayers' throats to build another 130 utility scale solar farms here, under DeSantis Watch.
Republicans fully aware of this, but you're not hearing a peep about this from Washington.
unidentified
This is this is the problem with as this stuff feeds into rate seeing massive rate hikes.
dave brat
Yeah, before we go to the next uh issue, why don't you give a shout out?
What states, what power companies, uh if the if the politicians won't say a peep, uh maybe the war room posse will say a peep.
What what do you recommend for uh mass communication strategy?
dave walsh
Well, we need to we need to pound away in Ericot, Texas, uh all solar and battery storage being installed there, still no gas-fired power.
Florida, all of the canoe capacity for the next 10 years announced by the three regulated utilities is entirely solar and battery storage.
So that's two red states.
Blue states, Maryland, and New Jersey have both announced three and four times rate increases respectively due to the tear down of coal, nuclear, and stuff that runs all the time and creates cost effective electricity being displaced with part-time intermittent sources.
So we're seeing and the the trouble's gonna be in that red states are dominantly doing this because of utility Republican donations.
unidentified
They're gonna be strong office.
dave walsh
We're gonna have a record landslide of folks thrown out of office locally over this going on because people know what what's happening with this.
unidentified
And the Dems are saying they're throwing rocks at us.
dave brat
Yep.
Hey, let me uh jump.
We uh we're running a hair short on time, but give us a two or three minutes.
Uh, we'll get you back on to go in-depth dive.
But you know, uh G and Putin uh having energy deals, huge new pipelines being built through Mongolia.
Uh we're uh India i i i we're in uh having a little uh tension there with them, driving them a little bit toward Russia.
Uh how does the how does the uh power politics play out on the energy front in uh the year next year or two uh ahead of us, Dave?
dave walsh
Well, Putin just went to visit G a couple of days ago.
They announced a second major pipeline into China that's fifty fifty billion cubic meters a day of natural gas on a second pipeline, increasing the existing ones six million, six billion cubic meters a day.
So about a hundred and forty-seven percent increase in Chinese importation of pipeline gas, which is way cheaper than LNG coming on boats from the U.S. into China to remove any last vestiges of dependency on the U.S. for LNG.
China will be the worst aspect of this Biden war was the Ukraine-Russia activity basically was the alliance of Russia and China militarily and energy wise.
So this completes the coup.
They'll be completely in independent with Russia on something that they have lacked.
China has lacked natural gas, wants to build a lot more combined cycle, yes, fully operational, 24-hour a day power plants to fuel their industrial growth.
Exactly what we need to be doing here, but we're not doing.
We're building solar farms all sourced from them.
So this presents an opportunity to get back into this trade deal.
The trade deal is not the main thing.
The main thing is the ruination of the U.S. energy supply.
As long as this is happening, you're not gonna buy gas from the United States.
We should not be purchasing solar panel one, inverter one, battery storage one from China.
One unaffordable, intermittent, part-time energy, useless.
But secondly, no reason to be supporting their economy with these kinds of purchases of energy devices from them while they're abandoning U.S. natural gas.
So that's it's a big deal.
India is in the penalty box for supporting Russian procurement.
But you know, we don't China, we're not putting China in the penalty box in this trade deal for doing exactly the same thing.
Being an ally of Russia in this Ukraine war, an ally of Iran in their activities with Hamas and Hezbollah, and and we're letting them uh get out of jail free pass because we want the trade deal.
Trade deal cannot include the procurement of solar panels and birds and battery storage from China.
dave brat
Yeah, this is this is not a fair question, but economists uh when they do their calculations are supposed to include the full cost of all of our activities.
So this war, this misplaced war in Ukraine caused by a coup uh and our CIA in two thousand fourteen, uh along with coups since nineteen fifty-three in about seventy countries.
Uh up just back of the envelope, what do you think the energy costs are alone that we've just added on our economy uh in terms of billions or in terms of a percentage of GDP growth?
What do you if you add on the damage that that war has just inflicted on our economy?
Uh just give us some way of looking at it.
What it's a horror show is what I'm trying to get at.
How big is the horror show?
dave walsh
Well, the uh uh uh uh of looks just to shut off LNG to to China it is because of what's happened the last three years has probably been probably been sixty to seventy billion of terminus of that ex value.
unidentified
Yeah, very suspicious.
dave walsh
But but also the the this this toll taken, all these utility rate increases are David, all about the application of renewables, which continues to this day, unabated, I'm sorry, under the present administration.
Except for these announcements and offshore wind, nothing nada has been done about the mass deployment of solar farms by utilities with Chinese equipment uh that that's been ongoing.
That should have been stopped, but it hasn't been stopped.
Instead, we want a trade deal.
We want a trade deal.
So we're gonna we're gonna sacrifice the U.S. energy economy, I fear, to get a trade deal that allows them to continue the heavy importation of this equipment here.
Europe, Europe has actually benefited from this.
If we could talk about Europe a quick second, they've they've imported uh 225 billion worth of oil and gas from Russia during the war at lower prices because the boycott, all the boycott said was they could import at below sixty bucks a barrel oil from Russia, they've ramped up their imports from Russia during the war.
unidentified
So Europe is actually and economically benefited from this.
Good.
dave brat
How do people get you, Dave?
How do people follow your writings on this stuff?
They love it.
dave walsh
Well, get me on getter uh and true social and uh X at Dave Walsh Energy.
unidentified
Thank you, David.
dave brat
Great job.
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All right, we're back in the war room, folks.
Uh we've got uh Wade with us, uh, and he uh has written a document uh that he's gonna share uh with us uh from the folks over with uh Russ Voting Company.
I saw Russ yesterday over at NATCOM, he gave great talk.
And uh Wade Miller uh wrote this document, about ready to discuss for a few minutes.
Uh but it uh on my reading of it, it wasn't looking too good for the uh defense authorization act.
I used to be in Congress, a trillion dollars we're spending.
We're supposed to be pivoting to Asia.
I didn't see major moves there.
Uh it's a huge budget number.
Uh it looks weak like it's uh strapping uh Trump's hands uh uh together.
He he not giving the president full mobility.
Uh it's going full in increasing funding to Ukraine instead of getting rid of funding for Ukraine.
Uh more money or the same money to Europe.
Uh it's adding more regulatory burden uh to stop the folks uh that are doing border work with the military.
Wade, do I is the basic summary right?
And I'm sure you can pile on.
So thanks for being with us, Wade.
wade miller
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
That's that's basically right.
And you know, it does have some anti-woke provisions, but a lot more needs to be done.
For instance, there's not any sort of ban on transgender or cabaret shows uh at you know, in in the military, which you know we can have a discussion on whether those should exist at all, but certainly they shouldn't be funded by uh taxpayer dollars on military bases.
Uh there's no real description of what types of flags that these units can fly.
We've had a lot of problems with units flying politicized flags.
But it goes on and on and on.
Uh in other words, there's a lot of work to be done.
And you know, we're 37 trillion in debt.
The president requested about a trillion, which is a big number, but the house and the Senate are requesting even more than that, even more than the president has requested.
And this is, as you know, this is what Republicans do.
That they're they talk about the debt, and then as soon as it comes to defense, they're perfectly happy to plus that up.
And look, I get it.
We've got Golden Dome research that we need to do, we've got uh quantum uh research that we need to do, we've got uh drone research, we've got AI research.
Those are all emerging defense security concerns, it's gonna take a lot of money.
But the president requested money, and then what does Congress do?
They plus it up even more, way beyond what the president's requested, while peppering it with all of these provisions that really tie the ability of the president to exercise his foreign policy powers.
We've got to stop that.
We've got to unleash the president.
The president has a very clear worldview, a very clear foreign policy agenda.
Stop uh kneecapping the president and statute from being able to execute his agenda.
dave brat
Yeah, and the House and the Senate both say, right, oh, we're all America first, or whatever.
Uh but the Senate doesn't let the judges get confirmed over the summer For some reason, and this is the way the swamp works.
And the other, as an economist, the one thing I notice, right?
I'm against all this DI DEI stuff, right?
That's a disaster, so it's good they're getting rid of it.
But the politicians get to go rah rah rah and do their commercial.
We got rid of that.
Uh, but it's much harder to do the economics, right?
Wait, when you get at the funding streams for Ukraine and Europe and and the regs and the the spending that goes off to the defense contractors, et cetera.
But that's harder to tackle.
So uh in you got about a minute left.
Wade what tell folks how to get to the document, what to look for, and then how to reach you.
wade miller
Sure.
Really quickly, this reminds me of uh the time I was in the Marine Corps and we were testing out packs.
And the pack that everyone universally loved was not the pack that got chosen by Congress because the member, uh the member of Congress who uh represented the the factory that produced this one that got second place, uh, was the one that got funded.
And so that's this is just how the NDA process works.
It's Congress pushing its own parochial agenda.
Uh, but uh long story short, you can find it at Citizens for Renewing America.
Of course, that's our uh uh C4.
Uh this is where we can weigh in on whether bills are good or bad.
Center for Renewing America is the C3, but this document exists on our citizens website.
Uh, you can find me on X Wade Miller underscore USMC.
Uh, and you can go there on our our socials, uh, Citizens for Renewing America and Center for Renewing America to see links to all of these products.
dave brat
Yeah, great job, Wade.
Great job, the whole team over there.
Keep it on.
And the other thing the NDAA folks, keep your eye on this.
They're nowhere near doing a budget.
They're not gonna do 12 bills or might not even do an omnibus because that'll be so bad, they'll do a CR because the Omni would be bigger than the current spending levels.
But the NDAA goes first, and watch what they tie to that thing, right?
That's the watch, watch what they tie to.
That tells you the Republican uh preferences, what they really stand for.
What what do they really believe in?
And uh keep your eye on that.
What are they tied to that?
Uh speaking of a good believer, we got Mike Lindell up.
Mike got a free gift pack uh from the federal government.
I I thought they were a bunch of meanies.
What'd you get in the mail, Mike?
mike lindell
Well, I just got back, everybody, from our great president.
We had a great meeting yesterday, and we talked about all the attacks on myself and my pillow over these last four and a half years, and I get back and here it is, everybody.
This is about 10 minutes ago.
This is my phone that the FBI took at a Hardy's drive-through three years ago, almost to the day.
And it took them three years to realize I've done nothing wrong on the other than what to melt down the voting machines and turn them into prison bars.
And uh they realize, gee, I guess we can't get them nothing for that.
We can just continue to attack them, and that's what they do.
So a lot of paperwork here.
dave brat
One minute left, Mike, sell us some pillows.
Sell us some pillows, about 45 seconds.
mike lindell
Right on.
So you guys, we're doing the pillow or the sheets, the sheets that we have, it's our president's favorite product.
We're doing it for the war room posse.
It's a close out sale.
Once they're gone, they're gone.
Every style, every size, king size, queen size, 2988.
Once they're gone, they're gone.
And a war room with that promo code Worm, you guys get even a better offer.
You get free shipping on your entire order.
We've got the My Pillow Pillows, they're on sale at employee pricing.
You guys use that promo code War Room.
And uh, but once these sheets are gone, they're gone.
We're trying to, we're building up capital because we're gonna be getting our our winter products in, close out special, 29.88, as many as you want, no limit.
And all the other products there, get the big ticket items, mattresses, mattress toppers with the free shipping on your entire order.
And uh Dave, I'll be busy going through all this today to see see what they what they took out of my phone for three years.
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