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Sept. 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4756: Meltdown At The Kennedy Hearing; Cuts To Defense Fund
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dave brat
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dave walsh
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naomi wolf
08:32
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dr naomi wolf
02:28
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elizabeth warren
01:38
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mike lindell
01:38
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robert f kennedy-jr
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ron wyden
01:23
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wade miller
02:35
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jake tapper
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mark warner
00:45
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steve bannon
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unidentified
The American Academy of Pediatrics has warned that the committee is being politicized at the expense of children's health.
ron wyden
American Academy of Pediatrics, you think they're lying too?
unidentified
I think the American Academy of Pediatrics is gravely conflicted.
Their biggest contributors are the four largest vaccine makers.
They run a journal, Pediatrics, which they make a lot of money on, that is completely dependent on pharmaceutical companies.
robert f kennedy-jr
So I don't think I wouldn't put a big stake in what they say that benefits pharmaceutical interests.
Senator, I didn't politicize ACEP.
I depoliticize it.
unidentified
Congress has been investigating ACEP.
All over the country, Mr. Secretary, scientists and doctors are saying otherwise.
They're all wrong, too.
ron wyden
They're all lying, according to you.
robert f kennedy-jr
The scientists and doctors are supporting me all over the country.
unidentified
There is division on opinion.
I don't get letters from thousands of people who are not political saying that this set of changes is going to damage American health care and particularly these health care agencies for decades to come.
I don't get any letters from people saying you're listening to a selective group of people.
You get me.
And I will find.
I will tell you what, Senator.
I will put my mailbag against your mailbag.
I got 30 days.
I got 30 seconds.
Dangerous respiratory viruses like RSV are on the agenda for the next advisory meeting.
ron wyden
Countless parents have been awakened in the dead of night by a wheezing kid gasping for air, forced to rush their little one to the ER.
There's no worse heart-wrenching fear.
The RSV vaccine offers these kids protection against the worst effects of the virus.
unidentified
But now it looks like you're on a crusade to make infants and babies more vulnerable to the terrible illness.
ron wyden
That's what we're doing with the COVID changes.
unidentified
And please make your answer brief, Mr. Secretary.
ron wyden
I've said that position is indefensible.
unidentified
I think it's possible.
robert f kennedy-jr
Congress has been investigating that committee for 23 years because it is pervaded with conflicts of interest.
What we did is we got rid of the conflicts of interest and we depoliticized it and put great scientists on it from a very diverse group.
unidentified
Let me close.
elizabeth warren
You tell America that all adults and all children over six months of age are eligible to get a COVID booster at their local pharmacy today.
robert f kennedy-jr
Anybody can get the booster.
unidentified
I'm sorry?
Anybody can get it.
Anybody.
So you're saying that is now the official rule of HHS.
elizabeth warren
Anybody is eligible to get a booster by just walking into the pharmacy.
robert f kennedy-jr
It's not recommended for healthy people.
elizabeth warren
No, no.
If you don't recommend, then the consequence of that in many states is that you can't walk into a pharmacy and get one.
unidentified
It means insurance companies don't have to cover the $200 or so cost.
elizabeth warren
As Senator Dr. Cassidy said, you are effectively denying people vaccines.
robert f kennedy-jr
We're not going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication.
unidentified
Is that what I should be doing?
What you should be doing is honoring your promise that you made when you were looking to get confirmed in this job.
You're going like this.
elizabeth warren
That is, you promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them.
You just changed the classification of the COVID vaccine.
unidentified
I'm not taking them away from people, Senator.
elizabeth warren
It takes it away if you can't get it from your pharmacy.
unidentified
Most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.
robert f kennedy-jr
Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.
unidentified
The question is, everyone who wants it, that was your promise.
I never promised that I was going to recommend products with which there is no indication.
When you said $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies, Senator.
Did you hold up a big sign saying that you were lying?
When you said that?
elizabeth warren
Because you are the one who said you would not take them away.
unidentified
Now, Senator Kennedy.
I'm not taking them away from it.
Secretary.
You want me to indicate a product for which there is no clinical data?
Senator.
Is that what you want?
elizabeth warren
Secretary Kennedy, you said you wouldn't, and now you do.
unidentified
I'm not taking them away.
Everybody can get access to them.
elizabeth warren
No, they can't walk into a pharmacy the way they could last month and get access.
unidentified
It depends on the state.
It depends on the state.
A year ago.
But they can still get it.
elizabeth warren
Everybody can get it.
robert f kennedy-jr
Everybody can get it, Senator.
elizabeth warren
So look, let's move on.
You clearly are taking away vaccines.
unidentified
Do you believe COVID-19 was politicized?
Yeah, the whole process was politicized.
Senator, I mean, we were lied to about everything.
robert f kennedy-jr
We were lied to about natural immunity.
unidentified
We were lied to about, you know, we were told again and again the vaccines would prevent transmission.
They'd prevent infection.
It wasn't true.
robert f kennedy-jr
They knew it from the start.
unidentified
It wasn't true because that's what the animal studies and the clinical trials showed.
We were told that there was science behind cloth masks.
The CDC allowed the teachers' union to write the order closing our schools, which hurt working people all over the country, and then pretend it was science-based.
All of these issues.
And then I can show you, like, for example, Chairman Wyden was talking about me politicizing ACIP.
During COVID, probably the most famous scientist on ACIP was Martin Kuldor from Harvard, the great, now world-renowned epidemiologist and vaccinologist.
And he criticized the COVID booster mandates.
They ejected him from COVID because he wasn't in the orthodoxy.
The two biggest health officials at FDA during COVID, Dr. Gruber and Dr. Krause, criticized the Biden mandates.
Vaccine managed.
robert f kennedy-jr
You know, President Biden said in August, I would never take that vaccine, the Trump vaccine.
unidentified
And he came in, he mandated it, and then he fired the two top health officials at FDA who said, hey, this thing has not been properly tested.
So the whole process was politicized.
And even today.
So let me.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
steve bannon
The people have had a belly full of it.
unidentified
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
steve bannon
It's going to happen.
unidentified
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
All right, everybody.
Dave Brant in the War Room for the great Stephen K. Bannon.
Stephen K. Bannon's downtown giving a stem winder to NatCon.
Can't wait to see the headlines coming out of that.
He shared a few lines with me earlier today.
dave brat
It's going to be a good one.
unidentified
So follow him.
I was going to be on the show a couple of days ago, but news events overtook things.
I just want to point everyone's attention.
I know you probably don't follow the New York Times every day, but a couple interesting articles, back-to-back opinion pieces.
New York Times, Cass Sunstein, you know, Obama fame and all that.
And then the next day, another one from one of the big more liberal writers.
But they're making RapprocheMot back to classical liberalism, right?
To be open, tolerant conversations, rational discourse, openness.
Whenever you hear the term openness, right, it's pervaded the university campuses in our country.
I've worked on the campuses for the last 30 or 40 years.
And it sounds neat until you see what the Liberal Project results in.
And for anybody who wants a remedy or a quick study on that, read Alan Bloom, right, University of Chicago, great philosopher, Closing the American Mind.
He's a great book on that.
He blisters the concept of openness, which came to us from a philosopher named Karl Popper, who had a brain, but now it's gone into Soros land.
So when you see Soros and the folks doing openness and pushing openness, you got to ask in juxtaposition to what?
And it's in juxtaposition to just the American classical setup of inalienable rights under law.
But the reason I bring it up right now is you just saw a blistering leftist assault on RFK Jr.
You know, I think if anybody sees that, their heart just goes out to him.
dave brat
It was so bad.
unidentified
And then the Democrats are bad enough.
I'll political abuse of my own.
But then our guy, Republican Dr. Cassidy, says, I'm just going to approach this as a medical doctor.
We're just going to do science.
No politics here.
And he goes into just a tirade.
dave brat
I mean, I think he's got, you know, Trump derangement syndrome or something.
Folks, Louisiana, you ought to give your senator a call.
unidentified
That was not one scientific thing about his discourse.
He didn't go after RFK on one testable proposition, just a bunch of narrative gobbledygook.
So to help us decipher this mess, we have brought in the real doctor, Dr. Naomi Wolf.
Doctor, thanks for being with us on the war room.
dave brat
Great to have you.
unidentified
And why don't you just launch and give us your view?
You're more skilled than I am in this realm of medicine.
Spend your life's work.
So have at it.
dave brat
Thanks for being with us, Doctor.
unidentified
Well, thank you so much for having me.
It's great to see you again and great to be with the Posse again.
Of course, I'm not a medical doctor, just full disclosure.
I have a defill in literature, but I did have the incredible experience of helping to oversee this project that Steve Bannon launched and that the Posse brought to fruition, which did oversee 3,500 medical doctors and scientists in reading through the 3,500 documents released under court order by Pfizer.
So I do know a lot from overseeing these 105 reports about what the fight was about that you just showed clips from.
So I will launch in.
It's, you know, I've been critical of RFK Jr. in the recent past because I wanted him to move faster and more directly on pulling, especially the COVID vaccine off the market.
naomi wolf
I mean, that's the one that due to the work we did on these two books And the evidence from Pfizer's own internal documentation, there is no way to make the case at this point in history because the evidence is out there in public that it's safe and effective.
unidentified
Pfizer concluded a month after rollout that it was neither safe nor effective, that it didn't work.
More people died or were hospitalized with the vaccine than without.
You can't make the case that it prevents transmission, even they don't make the case it prevents transmission.
naomi wolf
It doesn't.
unidentified
So, all those mandates and don't hug grandma were a lie.
You know, it has catastrophic side effects.
We're seeing horrific excess deaths, as the former Black Rock hedge fund manager Ed Dowd has magisterially demonstrated with his data analysis.
And we're also seeing catastrophic drops in live births, a 13 to 20 percent drop in live births, according to government data sets, especially in the Western world, including in North America.
I was just in Europe, and there are a million missing babies in Europe, and we know why this injection causes sterilization or miscarriage or spontaneous abortion in a plethora of ways.
So, having said all of that, a lot of things are kind of coming to a head that people should know about that preceded this fight in the Senate and all this yelling.
naomi wolf
One of the things that really changed the chessboard is that President Trump tweeted a really interesting tweet, I would say, three or four days ago, in which he basically said Pfizer had shown him wonderful data, presumably about how effective and safe this injection was.
unidentified
And the implication was when they were leading up to the release during Operational Warp speed.
And now he's calling on Pfizer to release it to the public.
I think he's saying, Did you show me real data?
naomi wolf
Let the public assess it, or did you lie to me?
unidentified
So, he really put Pfizer on the spot.
I'll pick up after the break if you let me.
No, it's great.
You're a pro.
You heard the music coming in at Naomi Wolf.
She's great.
Yeah, the, you know, the conversation there, Senator Mark Warner from Virginia, who just irritates me to no end, you know, tried to pin Kennedy as well.
We'll get back to this with Naomi, too.
But he said, you know, you're ignorant.
How many people died from COVID?
And Kennedy gave a truthful answer.
You know, I think he's just a good guy, right?
He's not playing politics.
He said, we don't know the number.
And then Warner said, so you're admitting on national TV, you don't know the number, right?
And then he did the same on a couple other things, just getting the sound clip ready to go that he doesn't know how many people died and then whether the offset of his work has been on net good.
And but the strongest thing that he said was, you guys, all you senators have been sitting in those chairs for 25 years while our kids have been having very adverse health effects, right?
And that's just damning, right?
dave brat
You all have been sitting there for 25 years.
unidentified
You never brought these questions up before.
You're bringing them up to me, and everything I'm doing is transparent.
dave brat
It's out there.
unidentified
And I'm going to get back into that after the break with Naomi.
dave brat
This transparency is key.
Platinum science, transparency.
unidentified
Stay with us after the break.
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mark warner
Just again, some basic facts.
unidentified
Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID?
I don't know how many died.
You're the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
You don't have any idea how many Americans died from COVID?
I don't think anybody knows because there was so much data chaos coming out of the CDC and there was incentives.
And these are models.
You don't know the answer of how many Americans from COVID.
This is the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
mark warner
Do you think the vaccine did anything to prevent additional deaths?
unidentified
Again, I would like to see the data and talk about the data.
You have had this job for eight months and you don't know the data about whether the vaccine is not.
And that's the problem: they didn't have the data.
robert f kennedy-jr
The data by the Biden administration absolutely does.
unidentified
So when Ada, who is politicizing, you're saying the Biden administration politicized all the data?
Go back to what Campwell just fired Dr. Greville Trump, Surgeon General.
They fired Dr. Greville.
They fired all the people who questioned the orthodoxy.
They fired Dr. Gruber, Dr. Kowlo.
Chairman, Secretary of Health and Human Services doesn't know how many Americans died from COVID.
dave brat
All right.
unidentified
War Room, there's your genteel Virginia gentleman, Mark Warner, being, you know, just a truth teller, tell it like it is.
dave brat
RFK Jr., right?
I mean, it is hard when you're up there.
unidentified
I've been in the middle of that thing.
dave brat
It's just a firing line.
unidentified
It's awful when they're all hitting you.
But I would ask Warner right back: hey, since you're the genius and you know everything, what's the number?
How many died?
dave brat
What's the number?
unidentified
I don't have the number, right?
It's not a matter of ignorance.
There's no good data.
dave brat
That's the problem.
unidentified
And a lot of it was juiced up or whatever.
Naomi, you want to tee off on some of these points from the senators and just bring the warham up to what is what does RFK Jr. know?
What is to be decided?
How good is the process?
They're all talking they want to do science.
He says we're going to do platinum science and it's going to be fully transparent.
And I believe the guy.
I like the guy.
He's, I mean, I should say up front, he's being heroic.
naomi wolf
I mean, he's standing firm.
unidentified
He's standing on science.
He's standing on truth.
And what the American people can clearly see again and again in these exchanges is that he is trying to tell our representatives and our senators, you know, what is missing in the science that he inherited and how ill-served the American people have been in a horrible emergency in which they were lied to continuously.
Or as he was trying to point out just now, the data were botched or outsourced or illegally handled actually in many cases.
And he was about to point out that a lot of the data is modeling, which is just imaginary numbers.
But I think what the American people have clearly seen, and I think he did a wonderful job being on offense and sticking, trying to stick to the facts and trying to be heard, even though he was being kind of silenced and shouted at, is the American people have clearly seen that their senators are bought and paid for by big pharma.
Arfke Jr., Secretary Kennedy, said that clearly several times to Bernie Sanders and to Elizabeth Warren, and he named numbers and $850,000 to Elizabeth Warren.
And she, you know, tried to speak right over him.
And he forced that issue so assertively and in such a kind of go-on-the-offense way that Bernie Sanders actually had to say, Are you saying, you know, Bernie, he smoked out Bernie Sanders completely.
naomi wolf
Bernie Sanders said, everyone here has taken money from pharma.
unidentified
We know pharma is corrupt, but they pay all of us.
Are you saying that we're all corrupt because we take pharma money?
So the American people have clearly seen who's paying for their senators and that the senators are jumping through hoops for their employers, shouting for the nearly a million dollars or more that they are getting, seems like annually.
It was a little unclear from the shouting.
And that RFK Jr. quitted himself really admirably in trying to, people watching this have had enough science to know that his answers kept returning.
to what would make the science solid and thus what would keep them safe.
And even when he was saying they fired people who raised questions about the booster, Martin Kuldorf, a world-famous epidemiologist, virologist from Harvard, he did right to continue to go back to the science and back to trying to depoliticize it and to make it transparent.
naomi wolf
Now, he is in some impossible positions because they all want him to just roll out the COVID injection with no hesitation and recommend it because billions of dollars are at stake with that.
unidentified
And he, to his credit, won't, but he also hasn't completely withdrawn it.
So he is in a difficult gray area, a difficult to defend gray area.
I mean, everyone's kind of mad at him, right?
Our side is mad at him because he hasn't pulled it and their side is mad at him because he has because he is not providing it, you know, with no testing for free.
I mean, just as he said, do you want me to give you a product that has no safety efficacy data?
But I do want to say one more thing.
Things are really escalating because what's at stake here isn't just another piece of theater.
It's not just yet again, as with the confirmation hearings, as you all recall initially for Senator Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy, sorry.
It's not just another ritual of shouting senators because this time it seems as if President Trump may be moving into alignment with RFK Jr. about this issue or at least raising the right questions at last, which has been a long journey.
And I also want to tell people another data point is Pfizer replied to President Trump on their own website this week, just a day or two ago, saying, we'll get President Trump the data by the end of the month and some of it is here on our website.
So that's not, that's like a dog ate my homework answer from Pfizer.
And the reason this is escalating, and I promise it's the last thing I'll say, is that given that exchange with the leader of the free world and Pfizer, who's paid all of these people that you see yelling at Secretary Kennedy, it's not just, is this a botched product?
dr naomi wolf
What's at stake, if this moves ahead with President Trump and RFK Jr. finally in alignment on this issue and President Trump realizing he was lied to by Pfizer, which I'm sure he will not like, it's a massive criminal, it's a massive crime scene.
naomi wolf
I mean, there are crimes upon crimes from fraud, battery, violation of the Nuremberg Code, you know, manslaughter.
unidentified
I mean, criminal offenses, civil offenses, even with the PrEP Act, if the power of the White House gets behind HHS, which hasn't been the case.
You know, there have been two camps.
So it is a very dangerous moment for the people who took all that money and participated in this crime.
Yeah, I'm glad you're there.
Hey, our other folks are having technical difficulties.
So you go as long as you want, Naomi.
But since I have a Renaissance scholar on with me, I fear not only the tremendous corruption and illegality that you just met, but the discussion in the nation when it comes to truth claims, right?
I taught in a history of thought forever.
There's no discussion of what truth is anymore, right?
And this sounds a little boring, but if you're young people, if you haven't read Plato's Republic, he was in search of the truth.
He didn't hit it, but everything else is a footnote, they say, to Plato, right?
And on and on and on.
dave brat
Aristotle tried it.
unidentified
And then recently we come up to this, this school of thought, this logical positivism.
And Karl Popper and Popper said, you can't ever reach truth either.
All you can do is falsify, right?
So if you have a hypothesis that's sitting out there, you can knock it down, but what you have standing there isn't truth.
And so, boy, this really makes the mind, you know, it hurts the American soul.
dave brat
People want to believe that people are telling the truth.
unidentified
Milton Friedman in economics wasn't happy with that.
dave brat
He went after it and he's a genius and he couldn't figure it out.
unidentified
And so just give us some comments to the American people and the young people, what should inspire them, how they should engage in thought in general and question these senators who are just hacks with a decent guy like Kennedy sitting there getting assaulted.
And the people who are voting for these hacks, you know, we can do better.
But Naomi, you fire away.
A couple minutes.
I mean, I love that you're asking the question.
You know, these are the questions we need to ask, especially our generations need to ask these questions to leave the younger generations an intellectual framework that's also a moral framework, you know, that is not nothing but a giant mess of moral relativism.
It's funny.
I was just before I got on camera thinking about, for some reason, my linguistics professor at Yale who spent the whole semester, and this was very fashionable at Yale in the 80s, and this was kind of in the language space parallel to what you're talking about.
It was called post-structuralism.
And his basic thesis is that you can't find meaning in language.
You can always deconstruct language.
You can't know what the author meant.
Everything is indeterminate.
And then you extend that to anthropology.
You know, all cultures are equally valid.
dr naomi wolf
It doesn't matter if someone's cannibal, that's their cultural practice.
unidentified
You know, and you see this manifesting in Britain, you know, when people who are detained for rape, who come from rape cultures, say, well, this is part of our culture.
naomi wolf
I, you know, I have no idea why you're detaining me.
unidentified
My point is, you're 1,000% right.
naomi wolf
The degradation really began in the 60s in the academy, but got a lot of momentum from the 80s to the present.
And I would say for sure, truth has been, is an unpopular, unfashionable ideal like nations, like history, like you.
unidentified
Good.
Back with Naomi.
dave brat
That's wonderful.
Thank you for that, Naomi.
unidentified
And Alan Bloom again, closing the American mind.
He's got some funny, sarcastic tongue-in-cheek.
You got to get deep into weeds, but the great Ivy League schools, they sent out the anthropologists and sociologists 100 years ago out to find these Rousseauian noble savages.
These people, our betters, our moral betters, because they're simpler.
And instead, what they found is not so noble savages.
And they came back and reported it.
Didn't I go along with the liberals?
And the liberals are good.
The leftists, we got a problem.
Back with Naomi Wolf in a minute to discuss the meaning of all things.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
All right, everybody, Dave Bratt in the war room, sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon with Naomi Wolf.
I want to go into a little bit topic of the instability we're going to face economically going up.
dave brat
You know, my favorite chart, it comes from Robert Gordon.
unidentified
Long run trend productivity going down for the past 70 years.
Trump's doing everything he can to turn that around, bringing capital in.
It's all good.
We're going to have a little instability in the short run, probably.
He's doing everything right.
We got major good moves.
dave brat
The rest of the show is going to be about all that.
unidentified
But we're at $37 trillion in debt right now.
CBO, Congressional Budget Office, has us $2 trillion deficits for the next 10 years.
So that's $20 trillion extra debt in the next 10.
So 37 and 20 is $57 trillion in debt.
That's not sustainable.
The only good news is that England is going to be the first mover.
They're going to plunge first, right?
dave brat
England, France, Germany, they're at 0% growth right now.
unidentified
So they're going to be a marker and they're going to be a warning sign.
And so in these times, and I just have to throw in, I always forget sometimes to make the most basic point.
dave brat
The Federal Reserve Bank is accommodating, right?
unidentified
There's this debate on these little moves that the Federal Reserve makes.
They're accommodating $2 trillion deficits every year without question.
The Congress never asked them, why are you accommodating?
You're supposed to be in charge of the economy.
You do all this other projects under the unemployment moniker, but you're not managing the economy when it comes to putting $7 trillion into our federal government, right?
Unproductive, $7 trillion.
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All right, back, Naomi Wolf.
Dr. Naomi Wolf has been with us doing a super job surveying the news today with RFK Jr.
Naomi, how do people reach you?
What name a book or two you might recommend to the young people of the country to get their heads on straight?
There you go.
That's a good question.
That's for advanced readers.
Thank you.
I just wanted to mention this one because we brought it yesterday to the European Parliament and presented this information at the European Parliament.
naomi wolf
And in fact, we were censored in Europe.
So I do want to ask everyone to go to that presentation and hand share it with friends in Europe because they can't listen to it.
unidentified
Again, it's Steve Bannon's book, an imprint, and the posse supported it.
So that's very important.
Also, another amazing thing people can do is go over to legissector.com, which is our new digital product that lets you share and learn about live legislation affecting your industry or your sector or your issue.
And then finally, you can follow me on at Naomi R. Wolf on X and on Getter and over on Substack.
My Substack is called Outspoken.
Very good.
Awesome.
Thanks, Naomi.
dave brat
Thanks for all you do.
unidentified
Keep it up.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you so much.
Take care.
You bet.
All right.
David Walsh is with us.
Energy news breaking big time.
Secretary of Energy says his main concern is electricity prices for the average homeowner.
And so, you know, AI, artificial intelligence, huge energy drain.
There's MIT professors that say, yeah, maybe that's not it.
dave brat
There's a lag on that kind of thing.
unidentified
So we got the expert coming in.
Dave Walsh, what do you make of that story?
This electrical shortages.
dave brat
You've been on this for years, why we're having shortages.
unidentified
What's the current state of affairs and how do we get out of it?
Well, David, years ago, I had a boss when I was a young man who said, Walsh, you need to stop worrying about this and do something about it.
So this is the Secretary of Energy, Chris.
Listen, we know you're worried.
We don't see you doing much.
Here's the issue: solar power in this country is the thing.
dave walsh
We just had Secretary Duffy cancel $680 million of federal funding for 12 offshore wind farms.
unidentified
That's great.
That's great.
But I'm here to tell you, offshore wind is only about 20% of the renewables being applied.
Solar power is far less valuable, far less capacity factor, works far lesser time of the day on average across the country, only 4.8 hours.
dave walsh
That's what's going on now, not offshore wind, not onshore wind, solar, and people are paying the price.
unidentified
It's six times more costly than conventional combined cycle power that we've become accustomed to.
dave walsh
We're only building solar farms.
unidentified
Utilities in red get this red and blue states alike going crazy allowing the build out of this.
This year, for example, across the country, according to Chris's DOE data, 91% of new capacity power in the country this year being built is solar, battery storage, and a little bit of wind.
So I'll do that.
Say that again.
What percent?
dave brat
What percent of the new energy?
unidentified
91%.
New power plant will be solar, battery storage, and a little bit of wind.
So wind is a lot.
How do we get out of it?
What does he need to do?
We need to throw our bodies in front of the Chinese importation.
Chinese imports are 87% of solar panels, 87% of battery storage, about 60% of inverters, all coming from China.
Trade deal be damned.
We've got to throw our bodies in front of that.
And the two-year extension of the incentives is causing developers and utilities alike, utilities who are massive Republican donors, utilities who are Republican donors, such as FPL here in Florida, with a $10 billion rate increase that they're trying to jam down ratepayers' throats to build another 130 utility-scale solar farms here under DeSantis watch.
Republicans fully aware of this, but you're not hearing a peep about this from Washington.
This is the problem with as this stuff feeds into rate, seeing massive rate hikes.
Yeah, before we go to the next issue, why don't you give a shout out?
What states, what power companies, if the politicians won't say a peep, maybe the war room posse will say a peep.
What do you recommend for mass communications strategy?
dave walsh
Well, we need to pound away in ERCOT, Texas, all solar and battery storage being installed there, still no gas-fired power.
Florida, all of the CNU capacity for the next 10 years announced by the three regulated utilities is entirely solar and battery storage.
unidentified
So that's two red states.
Blue states, Maryland, and New Jersey have both announced three and four times rate increases, respectively, due to the tear down of coal, nuclear, and stuff that runs all the time and creates cost-effective electricity being displaced with part-time intermittent sources.
So we're seeing, and the trouble is going to be in that red states are dominantly doing this because of utility Republican donations.
They're going to be We're going to have a record landslide of folks thrown out of office locally over this going on because people know what's happening with this.
And that them just take advantage of throwing rocks at us.
Yep.
Hey, let me jump.
We're running a hair short on time, but give us two or three minutes.
We'll get you back on and go in-depth dive.
dave brat
But, you know, Xi and Putin having energy deals, huge new pipelines being built through Mongolia.
unidentified
We're India, we're having a little tension there with them, driving them a little bit toward Russia.
How does the power politics play out on the energy front in the year, next year or two ahead of us, Dave?
Well, Putin just went to visit Zhi a couple of days ago.
dave walsh
They announced a second major pipeline into China that's 50 billion cubic meters a day of natural gas on a second pipeline, increasing the existing one, 6 billion cubic meters a day.
unidentified
So about 147% increase in Chinese importation of pipeline gas, which is way cheaper than LNG coming on boats from the U.S. into China to remove any last vestiges of dependency on the U.S. for LNG.
China will be the worst aspect of this Biden war was Ukraine-Russia activity basically was the alliance of Russia and China militarily and energy-wise.
So this completes the coup.
dave walsh
They'll be completely independent with Russia on something that they have lacked.
unidentified
China has lacked natural gas, wants to build a lot more combined cycle, yes, fully operational 24-hour a day power plants to fuel their industrial growth.
dave walsh
Exactly what we need to be doing here, but we're not doing.
We're building solar farms, all sourced from them.
unidentified
So this presents an opportunity to get back into this trade deal.
dave walsh
The trade deal is not the main thing.
The main thing is the ruination of U.S. energy supply.
As long as this is happening, you're not going to buy gas from the United States.
We should not be purchasing solar panel one, inverter one, battery storage one from China.
One, unaffordable, intermittent, part-time energy, useless.
unidentified
But secondly, no reason to be supporting their economy with these kinds of purchases of energy devices from them while they're abandoning U.S. natural gas.
So it's a big deal.
dave walsh
India is in the penalty box for supporting Russian procurement, but China, we're not putting China in the penalty box in this trade deal for doing exactly the same thing, being an ally of Russia in this Ukraine war, an ally of Iran in their activities with Hamas and Hezbollah.
unidentified
And we're letting them get out of jail free pass because we want the trade deal.
dave walsh
Trade deal cannot include the procurement of solar panels, inverters, and battery storage from China.
unidentified
Yeah, this is not a fair question, but economists, when they do their calculations, are supposed to include the full costs of all of our activities.
So this war, this misplaced war in Ukraine, caused by a coup and our CIA in 2014, along with coups since 1953 in about 70 countries.
Just back of the envelope, what do you think the energy costs are alone that we've just added on our economy in terms of billions or in terms of a percent of GDP growth?
If you add on the damage that that war has just inflicted on our economy, just give us some way of looking at it.
It's a horror show is what I'm trying to get at.
dave brat
How big is the horror show?
dave walsh
Well, just to shut off LNG to China because of what's happened the last three years has probably been probably been 60 to 70 billion of terminus of that exit value.
unidentified
Very sustainable.
But also, this tall taken, all these utility rate increases are, David, all about the application of renewables, which continues to this day, unabated, I'm sorry, under the present administration.
Except for these announcements and offshore wind, nothing has been done about the mass deployment of solar farms by utilities with Chinese equipment.
That's been ongoing.
dave walsh
That should have been stopped, but it hasn't been stopped.
unidentified
Instead, we want a trade deal.
We want a trade deal.
So we're going to sacrifice the U.S. energy economy, I fear, to get a trade deal that allows them to have the importation of this equipment here.
Europe has actually benefited from this.
If we could talk about Europe for a quick second, they've imported $225 billion worth of oil and gas from Russia during the war at lower prices because the boycott, all the boycott said was they could import at below 60 bucks a barrel oil from Russia.
They've ramped up their imports from Russia during the war.
So Europe is actually clever guy and economically benefited from this.
Good.
How do people get you, Dave?
How do people follow your writings on this stuff?
They love it.
Well, get me on Getter and True Social and ex at Dave Walsh Energy.
Thank you, David.
Great job.
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All right, we're back in the war room, folks.
We've got Wade with us, and he has written a document that he's going to share with us from the folks over with Russ Voting Company.
I saw Russ yesterday over at NatCom.
He gave a great talk.
And Wade Miller wrote this document, about ready to discuss for a few minutes.
But on my reading of it, it wasn't looking too good for the Defense Authorization Act.
I used to be in Congress.
A trillion dollars we're spending.
We're supposed to be pivoting to Asia.
I didn't see major moves there.
It's a huge budget number.
It looks weak like it's strapping Trump's hands together.
He not giving the president full mobility.
It's going full in, increasing funding to Ukraine instead of getting rid of funding for Ukraine.
It's more money or the same money to Europe.
It's adding more regulatory burden to stop the folks that are doing border work with the military.
Wade, is a basic summary right?
And I'm sure you can pile on.
So thanks for being with us, Wade.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
That's basically right.
wade miller
And, you know, it does have some anti-woke provisions, but a lot more needs to be done.
unidentified
For instance, there's not any sort of ban on transgender or cabaret shows in the military, which, you know, we can have a discussion on whether those should exist at all, but certainly they shouldn't be funded by taxpayer dollars on military bases.
There's no real description of what types of flags that these units can fly.
wade miller
We've had a lot of problems with units flying politicized flags, but it goes on and on and on.
unidentified
In other words, there's a lot of work to be done.
And, you know, we're 37 trillion in debt.
The president requested about a trillion, which is a big number, but the House and the Senate are requesting even more than that, even more than the president has requested.
And this is, as you know, this is what Republicans do.
They talk about the debt.
And then as soon as it comes to defense, they're perfectly happy to plus that up.
And look, I get it.
wade miller
We've got Golden Dome research that we need to do.
unidentified
We've got quantum research that we need to do.
We've got drone research.
We've got AI research.
Those are all emerging defense security concerns.
It's going to take a lot of money.
But the president requested money.
And then what does Congress do?
They plus it up even more, way beyond what the president's requested, while peppering it with all of these provisions that really tie the ability of the president to exercise his foreign policy powers.
We've got to stop that.
We've got to unleash the president.
wade miller
The president has a very clear worldview, a very clear foreign policy agenda.
unidentified
Stop kneecapping the president and statute from being able to execute his agenda.
Yeah, and the House and the Senate both say, right, oh, we're all America first or whatever.
But the Senate doesn't let the judges get confirmed over the summer for some reason.
And this is the way the swamp works.
And the other, as an economist, the one thing I noticed, right, I'm against all this DEI stuff, right?
dave brat
That's a disaster.
unidentified
So it's good they're getting rid of it.
But the politicians get to go rah-rah-rah and do their commercial.
dave brat
We got rid of that.
unidentified
But it's much harder to do the economics, right?
When you get at the funding streams for Ukraine and Europe and the regs and the spending that goes off to the defense contractors, et cetera, that's harder to tackle.
So you got about a minute left, Wade.
Tell folks how to get to the document, what to look for, and then how to reach you.
Sure.
Really quickly, this reminds me of the time I was in the Marine Corps and we were testing out PACs.
And the PAC that everyone universally loved was not the PAC that got chosen by Congress because the member of Congress who represented the factory that produced this one that got second place was the one that got funded.
And so this is just how the NDA process works.
wade miller
It's Congress pushing its own parochial agenda.
unidentified
But long story short, you can find it at Citizens for Renewing America.
Of course, that's our C4.
This is where we can weigh in on whether bills are good or bad.
wade miller
Center for Renewing America is the C3, but this document exists on our citizens website.
unidentified
You can find me on X Wade Miller underscore USMC, and you can go there on our socials, Citizens for Renewing America and Center for Renewing America, to see links to all of these products.
Yeah, great job, Wade.
dave brat
Great job, the whole team over there.
unidentified
Keep it up.
And the other thing, the NDAA folks, keep your eye on this.
They're nowhere near doing a budget.
dave brat
They're not going to do 12 bills or might not even do an omnibus because that'll be so bad they'll do a CR because the Omni would be bigger than the current spending levels.
unidentified
But the NDAA goes first and watch what they tie to that thing, right?
That's the, watch what they tie to.
That tells you the Republican preferences, what they really stand for.
What do they really believe in?
And keep your eye on that.
What are they tie to that?
Speaking of a good believer, we got Mike Lindell up.
dave brat
Mike got a free gift pack from the federal government.
unidentified
I thought they were a bunch of meanies.
dave brat
What did you get in the mail, Mike?
unidentified
Well, I just got back, everybody, from our great president.
We had a great meeting yesterday, and we talked about all the attacks on myself and my pillow over these last four and a half years.
And I get back, and here it is, everybody.
This is about 10 minutes ago.
mike lindell
This is my phone that the FBI took at a Hardy's drive-thru three years ago, almost to the day.
unidentified
And it took them three years to realize I've done nothing wrong other than want to melt down voting machines and turn them into prison bars.
And they realize, yeah, we can't get them nothing for that.
mike lindell
We can just continue to attack them.
unidentified
And that's what they do.
So a lot of patients.
One minute.
One minute left, Mike.
Sell us some pillows.
Sell us some pillows for 45 seconds.
Right on.
So you guys, we're doing the pillow or the sheets, the sheets that we have.
It's our president's favorite product.
mike lindell
We're doing it for the War Room posse.
It's a closeout sale.
Once they're gone, they're gone.
unidentified
Every style, every size, king size, queen size, $29.88.
Once they're gone, they're gone.
And when War Room, with that promo code Warroom, you guys get even a better offer.
mike lindell
You get free shipping on your entire order.
unidentified
We've got the My Pillow Pillows.
They're on sale at employee pricing.
You guys use that promo code War Room.
But once these sheets are gone, they're gone.
We're building up capital because we're getting our winter products in.
Pose out special, $29.88.
As many as you want, no limit.
And all the other products there, get the big ticket items, mattresses, mattress toppers with the free shipping on your entire order.
And Dave, I'll be busy going through all this today to see what they took out of my phone for three years.
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