Aug. 28, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish, in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| All right, everyone. | ||
| Welcome to the War Room. | ||
| Dave Bratt sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| We have a pack show. | ||
| We've got one of the crowd favorites of all time, a former host of the show. | ||
| Now working in the White House with Trump on the terrace, that of course would be Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| So welcome to the show. | ||
| August 28, Year of Our Lord, 2025. | ||
| Peter, great to see your face. | ||
| We love you in the war room. | ||
| I think you want to tear off on an epiphany you said Jay Powell had last week. | ||
| So why don't you lead off with that brother? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| The Professor Bratt, my brother, how are you doing and how's the posse doing? | ||
| Hey there, posse. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| Let's talk about something that happened last week. | ||
| Jackson Hole, Wyoming, that's where the elites of the globalists go to water and drink champagne at our expense and all that stuff. | ||
| But a good thing happened. | ||
| We've been in this running battle with Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, who just keeps making bad decisions, which certainly must be political. | ||
| He just doesn't like Donald Trump. | ||
| So the problem is we're at least 100 basis points too high in terms of interest rates. | ||
| We're over 4% compared to 2% for Europe, 0.5% for China, 0.5% for Japan. | ||
| It's just it imposes tremendous costs on jobs slows down job growth. | ||
| It makes financing our debt more expensive. | ||
| It makes us pay more for our mortgages or for our credit card debt. | ||
| I mean, it's criminal what Jay Powell has been doing at the Fed. | ||
| And he's been doing it all under the flag of what he calls tariff uncertainties. | ||
| He's been arguing that they can't lower rates because somehow tariffs might cause inflation. | ||
| Well, he was wrong. | ||
| What we learned in the first term of the Trump administration when we imposed the historic China tariffs, the steel and aluminum tariffs, they did. | ||
| is that we saw virtually no price increases. | ||
| We had price stability, we had robust growth, and that's what's going to happen again. | ||
| That's what we're seeing in the data. | ||
| But his epiphany, getting to the punchline of this whole thing, he said that even if there's inflation from the tariffs, it's not the type of inflation that results in a spiral. | ||
| which requires restrictive monetary policy. | ||
| What tariffs are are simply a one-shot deal. | ||
| Whatever is going to be the effect of tariffs. | ||
| It's just going to happen in that one period, not create additional inflation. | ||
| So there's no reason therefore to try to use restrictive interest rate policy to cure a spiral because there won't be any spiral. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| Now, the bond market understood that. | ||
| Yields fell dramatically that day. | ||
| The stock market understood that because we had an almost 1,000 point gain in the Dow. | ||
| And it almost certainly means that we'll begin rate cuts in September. | ||
| And that's good news for America. | ||
| The bad news, of course, is that they're going to take This gradualist approach, they'll throw us a bone of 25 percent, 25 basis points, when in fact the reality is we're still at least 100 basis points over where we should be. | ||
| So Joe Powell, his epifany has reignited the rally in the stock market. | ||
| It's going to be good for America. | ||
| And that's the news from the North Lawn on Jay Powell. | ||
| Yeah, it's great to see you out in front of the White House, Peter. | ||
| The War Room misses you. | ||
| I want to tie that conversation. | ||
| First of all, I want to give you kudos and Bannon and President Trump., for taking all the heat on years ago, your work over decades on the tariffs in the first place. | ||
| Everyone said, Oh, the sky's going to fall, growth's going to fall. | ||
| None of that's true. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And so now you just said, The stock market gets it, the bond market gets it, everyone gets it except for the elites. | ||
| And so President Trump basically stood up on a platform in front of Europe years ago and said, Get your house in order. | ||
| And they're they're starting to pay a little more, right? | ||
| Percent towards defense, GDP, et cetera. | ||
| But now, you know, there's some critics out there. | ||
| India say, hey, this is not fairir and they're moaning and groaning. | ||
| Well, we're paying for, you know, clear seaways, the Philippines, Taiwan. | ||
| We're paying for the whole world's protection still. | ||
| We want out of that deal. | ||
| And so I think you've had a little interaction with them. | ||
| What, what, what's your view of that situation with India? | ||
| Yeah, let's talk about India. | ||
| I've long called them the Maharaja of tariffs because they've literally, they have the highest tariffs in the world of any major country. | ||
| Punctual. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Of course, they deny that, which is, I mean, that's like, come on. | ||
| If you're going to do it, at least admit that you're doing it. | ||
| So because of those high tariffs, President Trump imposed a 25% reciprocal tariff. | ||
| The problem is we run a big trade deficit with India. | ||
| The trade deficit is a national emergency draining us dry, stealing our jobs, our factories, and all of that. | ||
| So we go to 25% with India. | ||
| They complain. | ||
| They complain. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| No. | ||
| The data is the data. | ||
| India, you're the Maharaja tariffs. | ||
| Then the President imposed an additional 25% under a different statute, rationale. | ||
| It's the IEPA statute. | ||
| But this one has to do with the following crazy math. | ||
| And follow me here because American consumers, taxpayers, workers and businesses all get screwed by India. | ||
| So follow me here. | ||
| We start with the high tariffs and high tariff barriers, right? | ||
| And so that leads to India exporting us more than we send them. | ||
| And Americans pay a bunch of money to India. | ||
| And so we pay a bunch of money to India, right? | ||
| So they get these revenues from the exports here, right? | ||
| So they got this big pot of money. | ||
| What do they do with that pot of money? | ||
| They give it to Russia, right? | ||
| What they do is they buy Russian crude oil at a discount. | ||
| And what the big oil refineries in India do with Russian Silent Partners Day, they bring in the Russians, okay? | ||
| And they refine the oil and they sell it at a premium, earn these big profits. | ||
| Now, what's startling about this is that prior to the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February of 2022, you know how much oil India bought from Russia? | ||
| Just about zip, pretty close to zero, Dave. | ||
| And then when Russia invades, they got to figure out a way to backdoor it. | ||
| So India quickly transformed itself into basically a Kremlin laundromat for their oil. | ||
| And so, so again, they send us their goods here. | ||
| We can't send them theirs. | ||
| We pay them a bunch of money. | ||
| They use it to buy Russian oil. | ||
| Then the Russians, what do they do? | ||
| They use it to fuel their war machine, kill a bunch more Ukrainians, right? | ||
| And then NATO, We have to pony up billions more to protect Ukraine because India's giving Russia the money to. | ||
| You see what I mean? | ||
| It's like crazy. | ||
| It's just oil insanity math. | ||
| And so there's no excuse for the world's largest democracy by population, which is India, getting in bed with the Russians, buying their oil, and then complaining when we add tariffs on that to have them stop doing it. | ||
| Because India, look, the road to peace in Ukraine runs through a lot of places, and New Delhi is one of them. | ||
| They buy about one and a half million barrels of oil a day. | ||
| You know how many drones that buys for Russia to send their little bombs over to Kiev? | ||
| A ton. | ||
| So they got to stop that. | ||
| That's the end of the story. | ||
| It's the India story and that's my story. | ||
| I'm sticking to it, Dave, and I just I just I wish India would get the message on this because they're a great country. | ||
| Modi's a great leader. | ||
| They could be a great partner. | ||
| Oh, one other thing. | ||
| Very, very, this kind of lead. | ||
| They don't even buy our arms. | ||
| And that would help balance our trade. | ||
| They don't do that. | ||
| You know who they buy them from? | ||
| The Russians, yeah. | ||
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Yeah, well, I want to continue this a minute. | |
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I want to link this to the next pick, you know, for the Fed governors, for the next board seats on the Fed, et cetera. | ||
| My, my fear is they choose an expert, you know, an Ivy League credentialed, you know, establishment people for these slots. | ||
| I hope they don't. | ||
| They're not going to choose a Navarro. | ||
| But when it comes to India and these kinds of things, you know, they're one fifth of the world's population or more, and they're not carrying the full weight of their responsibilities on the world, right? | ||
| They're protecting the Indian Ocean, a little regional stuff., the border with Pakistan, the rest of the world is left to us. | ||
| The economists at the Federal Reserve have not picked up any of the full costs, which economics, that's what it's supposed to do. | ||
| What are the full costs of a border invasion with twenty million illegal immigrants? | ||
| What's the full cost of war? | ||
| What's the full cost of our debt load on economic growth? | ||
| What's the full cost of two trillion dollar deficits that the kids have to repay, right? | ||
| We're stealing from the next generation. | ||
| So what's your commentary on what type of economists we should be putting in these major league positions? | ||
| Well, first of all, they have to know something about how to conduct Federal Reserve policy. | ||
| I mean, this whole firing of Lisa Cook. | ||
| When she was first appointed back in the Biden years, years away from when I was back standing here in the White House, I was quite vocal about the fact that she was totally unqualified for the job. | ||
| It was a typical Biden DEI hire. | ||
| That's what it was, point stop. | ||
| And if you compare her to other Fed governors, she just doesn't have the chops, the scholarly papers, the writings, this and that that demonstrate mastery of what she did. | ||
| And so when she comes in, she immediately allied with Powell in terms of holding rates artificially low during the Biden regime. | ||
| She helped pump that inflation is transitory narrative, which turned out to be a bunch of BS. | ||
| And she did it either because she's a partisan or she's incompetent or both. | ||
| But she did it. | ||
| She she is just as responsible for the inflationary spiral. | ||
| spiral as Joe Biden in Democrat Congress and Jay Powell. | ||
| And then, of course, when Donald Trump gets into office, she totally reverses course. | ||
| And now she votes she won't lower interest rates. | ||
| You don't want those kind of partisans. | ||
| You want people who are smart, type, who make the right calls, who understand financial markets. | ||
| You know, you got to see the mayor. | ||
| He's going to be a great addition. | ||
| I mean, yeah, go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| One minute left. | ||
| The problem is they got a thousand hired economists there. | ||
| They, you know, there's two mandates. | ||
| One is price stability, the other is unemployment. | ||
| The left has used the unemploymemployment thing for leftist goals. | ||
| When are any of these economists going to use it for American worker goals, right? | ||
| That's what I'm just a minute in closing, and thank you for being with us. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| All right, look, the Fed has to get its act together. | ||
| It doesn't need the Fed Mahal there over there. | ||
| Look, the complicated part of being a Fed governor is dealing with the balance sheet that they have, which's totally whacked out. | ||
| And you got to be a rocket scientist to understand the dynamics of that and get that down. | ||
| But actually determining whether you lower rates by 25 or 50 basis points, that's the old bill Bill Buckley thing. | ||
| I'd rather have twelve people from the Boston Phonebook do that than some of the clowns they got there doing it now. | ||
| We get a better result. | ||
| So it's good talking to you. | ||
| Always good to be with the Posse in the war room. | ||
| And keep doing what you're doing, Dave. | ||
| Yeah, keep doing what you're doing, Peter. | ||
| Doctor Navarro in the war room. | ||
| Very thankful to have you doing what you're doing for the country. | ||
| Can't wait to have you back on the show. | ||
| And Posse, please share that clip right there with all your friends, right? | ||
| We need to share that type of information so people understand the Federal Reserve system. | ||
| We're going to go to Philip Patrick with Birch Gold right after this break. | ||
| He'll weigh in with more commentary. | ||
| He's been writing with Steve and Kay Bannon. | ||
| I think they're on there about their eighth and eighth installment on monetary policy. | ||
| So stay tuned after the break. | ||
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| All right, welcome back to the war room. | ||
| We got Philip Patrick with Birchgold in the house with us in the war room. | ||
| Philip, great to have you with us and good to see you again. | ||
| Why don't you react to what Navarro said and take it in any direction you want? | ||
| Oops, you're muted, muted. | ||
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I'm muted. | |
| Let's try that again. | ||
| Thanks, fam. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| It's really good to see you. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| No, I think Navarro is absolutely spot on, right? | ||
| The Fed have been dragging their heels and it certainly looks political. | ||
| I agree with him. | ||
| I think interest rates should be at least 100 basis points lower than they are today. | ||
| And I think despite, you know, They were lowering rates prior to the election under Biden when inflation was higher than it is today and obviously dragging their feet in doing so today when employment numbers are terrible and inflation.'s marginally above their two percent target. | ||
| Something else I'll say, the Fed as an institution have been very ineffective since inception. | ||
| Inflation has averaged 44 percent a year. | ||
| Now at 2.7, they're freaking out saying they need to hold firm. | ||
| It's absolutely nonsense. | ||
| So I agree with Navarro completely. | ||
| On top of that, we're going to see a reduction. | ||
| It looks like I think markets are pricing in an 88 percent chance of a quarter point cut in September. | ||
| But I think it's a case of too little. | ||
| People have to understand how desperately we need to lower rates. | ||
| Navarro mentioned debt service payments and he's absolutely right. | ||
| Half of our annual deficit in this climate, more than half is debt service payments. | ||
| Every percent they lower interest rates, that's $160 billion in the coffers of the government that President Trump can use to go out and grow the economy. | ||
| Ultimately, austerity is not going to get us out of this mess. | ||
| It's going to be growth. | ||
| And in order to see the economy grow, we need lower interest rates and we need more money in the coffers. | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| easy sailing from there, right? | ||
| Regardless of what financial news channels say, Main Street shouldn't celebrate too soon. | ||
| Rate cuts may give markets a short term sugar rush, but they also do risk reigniting inflation longer term. | ||
| So it's always this balancing act. | ||
| And I think it highlights the difficulty that President Trump has today. | ||
| As I said, he needs to lower rates. | ||
| We've got to stimulate growth, but in the process, we risk inflation rearing its ugly head again. | ||
| It's a balancing act. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Zero Hedge had a great article I highlighted on the show earlier in the week. | ||
| Europe is up to the same old Keynesian economics. | ||
| They used the green boondoggle to jack up government spending and demand, led to zero productivity, low growth. | ||
| Now, in order to get out of that Keynesian mess, they're going to do Keynesian too with a defense policy jack up defense spending to enhance government spending, again, not a high productivity sector. | ||
| And so now Trump, the good news is Trump is totally shifting from the demand side to the supply side incentives, right? | ||
| And that takes a while. | ||
| But why don't you start up, give us the good news on the inflation numbers. | ||
| The GDP report came out. | ||
| They updated the numbers a little bit. | ||
| Give us the good news and then any cautionary notes on timing. | ||
| Listen, President Trump and the team have done about as good a job as possible. | ||
| People have to remember they inherited an absolute disaster. | ||
| I have been very encouraged with the trade deals, with the progress on inflation, right? | ||
| Inflation has been coming down very consistently. | ||
| We've seen a small increase, but it's been nominal. | ||
| I've been very encouraged by the trade deals. | ||
| He's attracting revenue here to the United States at a level never seen before, right? | ||
| So everything that the administration had been doing. | ||
| doing, it is absolutely spot on. | ||
| But like I said, it becomes very difficult, right? | ||
| Every decision that we have to make has second and third order effects. | ||
| We talk about lowering interest rates. | ||
| We absolutely need to do it, right? | ||
| But we know what happens. | ||
| Lower interest rates put a squeeze on prices and they ultimately drive prices up. | ||
| Look at the bricks, right? | ||
| President Trump now is trying to I would like to see more progress from the administration in closing that deficit gap, right? | ||
| We've made some progress, but ultimately we have tax cuts as well. | ||
| That for me is going to be the key here. | ||
| If we don't do that, a lot of this is going to be out of our hands. | ||
| I think ultimately it makes the dollar less attractive, that leads to an increase. | ||
| Listen, people have to remember, regardless of what the Fed does, they can lower interest rates, but if global demand for our debt starts to wane, those rates will go up regardless. | ||
| Last year, the Fed lowered interest rates one hundred basis points, borrowing rates on Treasuries went up ninety. | ||
| So there's still a lot of things things out there to be worried about. | ||
| We are making progress. | ||
| We're taking steps in the right direction, but there's a lot of things that can happen. | ||
| Gold right now still moves up. | ||
| Predictions are it continues to move up and that tells us we've got some tough times before we can start to get ourselves out of this mess. | ||
| Yeah, right on the money, Philip Patrick. | ||
| In closing, one minute, you know, President Trump as a business guy cannot like seven trillion dollars of government spending in our budget, right? | ||
| That is not the private sector doing its job. | ||
| He certainly doesn't like the two trillion dollar deficit spending you just brought up. | ||
| And the one cautionary note is we're still somewhat in the Biden economy, right? | ||
| That government spending has about a year and a half lag of bad stuff in it. | ||
| And Congress needs to step up and get rid of the bad stuff any day. | ||
| So how long do you think that Trump's doing great on bringing the capital back, CapEx is going up, the reports there in the short run are even good. | ||
| When do you think we hit that, you know, from two to three to four percent growth with the CapEx that that takes a year and a half or two or so? | ||
| At least, yeah. | ||
| stimulate economic growth in a big, big way. | ||
| People have to understand that the job that President Trump has, we need to grow the economy faster than we're growing debt. | ||
| Since the 70s, debt has grown an average of eight percent per year, GDP's average of three, right? | ||
| So we need some rocket fuel on the economy. | ||
| And that's why I say the moves that the administration are making are big. | ||
| They're trying to change things, but only dramatic moves like that will lead to results like this, and we need them. | ||
| So I think they need at least a couple of years. | ||
| And the question is, what happens between now and then? | ||
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| There we still, there's instability, India, the Russia war, the Middle East, Venezuela, Mexico, cartels. | ||
| We're hitting it all in the show coming up. | ||
| But it's not all smooth sailing. | ||
| So Birch Gold friends. | ||
| Okay, next we got Mark Mitchell with us from Rasmussen. | ||
| And Mark, why don't you just let off with some great headlines while we were chatting., and so why don't you just tear up the latest you got, and then I'll ask you a couple of questions when you're done. | ||
| Well, I'm never a cheerleader. | ||
| I'm here to give people the cold, hard facts, and the cold, hard facts is Trump's racking up wins, but we are not out of the woods yet. | ||
| The Republicans are in a really bad spot. | ||
| Now, you've probably heard a lot of really good headlines about the future of the Democratic Party, about how their brand is in the tank, about how over the long term they're going to hemorrhage electoral votes as the 2030 census catches up with all the movements that happened post COVID, how we might fix the 2020 census, and that might give another 15 seats back to the Republicans, and also all this redistricting stuff. | ||
| Now, that's all correct. | ||
| But the problem is, is that Trump still has to have the Republicans win November 2026. | ||
| And, you know, the bad news is that every single major pollster right now has the Democratic Party picking up seats in the House and most likely winning the majority. | ||
| And that brings us to a very convenient and uncomfortable public opinion fact, which is that Donald Trump might get all of these wins, but he can't pick and choose what he gets credit for. | ||
| And so this summer, he got his signature legislation signed, the one big beautiful bill. | ||
| He took out Iran's nuclear program and he got all of these trade deals. | ||
| But his numbers between middle of June and middle of July tanked from approval rating of net plus eight down to net negative four. | ||
| And he's at net negative two today. | ||
| So he hasn't really recovered. | ||
| And the biggest thing that I can come up with is, well, maybe people didn't like the One Big Beautiful bill because the messaging kind of stunk, or maybe people were upset about the fact that we were getting involved with stuff with Israel. | ||
| But probably the biggest one is the Epstein thing. | ||
| And I've lost a ton of followers calling Trump out for the way he handled that because it was kind of a canary in the coal mine that maybe we're not getting the massive redress of voters' grievances that we thought we were going to get with Trump. | ||
| And so maybe again, he won't get credit for all these wins. | ||
| Now, I think his numbers are going to recover, but the problem is, is that objectively, if you look at the 119th Congress, Republicans are giving us absolutely nothing. | ||
| They made a lot of really major promises back in November, the stuff that Mike Johnson was saying on the steps of Congress on November 12 about how he was going to hang an America First banner over Congress. | ||
| And our list of legislation is essentially the one big, beautiful bill, and that's about it. | ||
| They have 50 legislative days left in this year. | ||
| And it looks like if Trump wants to win, he's got to rely on places like Texas to redistrict. | ||
| And it looks like he's taking matters into his own hands. | ||
| He's going to pick people who he thinks are critical to maintain the majority and go, you know, campaign on the stunt for them. | ||
| And he looks like he's going to have a new RNC in advance of the 2026 election. | ||
| I don't know if that's going to be enough because only 38% of Trump 2024 voters give Republicans in Congress a very favorable rating. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
| And so Trump got all these crossover Democrats. | ||
| He got all these independents and the Republicans have not converted those votes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mark right back after the break with Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen, given the strike. | ||
| Given the straight reporting, a few questions positive after Here's your host, Stephen K. Batman. | ||
| All right, everybody back in the war room with Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen giving us the polling news, realistic assessment where we stand right now. | ||
| I got a general feeling that the Justice Department, you know, a couple strong grand jury showings can reset that tone you're talking about. | ||
| Any polling evidence on the optimism that people buy what's going on that they think Bondi's going to come through with this? | ||
| People think that it's not very likely that that there will be criminal accountability. | ||
| Every time we've asked, the numbers in the mid forties roughly, but people do want criminal accountability. | ||
| We've asked this question in multiple ways. | ||
| And I think one of the key things that we learned from this election was that this wasn't necessarily about people loving Trump. | ||
| It was about a referendum on the failure of government trust because only thirty percent trusted the federal government. | ||
| Now we asked people, well, hey, people in the Obama administration manipulated Intel to create the Russian collusion hoax. | ||
| Should they be arrested? | ||
| Fifty seven percent say yes. | ||
| We just told people about debanking and asked people, well, should the FBI investigate whether banks violated federal law by practice of debanking? | ||
| 63% say yes. | ||
| So we've seen this number over and over again, this like roughly mid sixties number who say no, I don't like this. | ||
| Now the problem Trump is having is that what people learned under the Biden administration is that government can be corrupted and weaponized. | ||
| And so just because Trump's in charge now doesn't mean that they're completely going to change their opinions about that. | ||
| So we just asked about the John Bolton raid and people say, well, 48% of them say, yeah, it's actually probably Trump getting revenge and only 38% say it's about national security. | ||
| So until they see major accountability and I don't know what that looks like, probably a ton of arrests, but probably a ton of people getting fired, they're not necessarily going going to change their minds about it. | ||
| They still don't trust the federal government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, I I buy that. | ||
| I think you're spot on. | ||
| In closing, give us one minute. | ||
| Anything you got on artificial intelligence, thumbs up or thumbs down from the American people, concerns, what scares them, if the MIT report came out last week saying only five percent of firms have embedded AI, generative AI, into their business systems. | ||
| And so whatever you got, people are fascinated by this stuff. | ||
| It's definitely going to change America in a way we don't know yet. | ||
| And I can say that people are somewhat concerned. | ||
| We have 70 percent of people who are concerned about AI. | ||
| Only 42% think that it will be used to control them, though. | ||
| 33% say in power. | ||
| But the big problem here is everybody says that the 18 to 29 year olds, the young people are moving to the right. | ||
| And that's not really true. | ||
| They're actually just super economic populists. | ||
| And the thing that concerns me is that they are super quick to drop all presences of conservatism when faced with, I mean, we have this question here. | ||
| AI eliminates millions of jobs. | ||
| Would you support or oppose a law to redistribute income and provide Americans with basically UBI? | ||
| And 65% of people under 30. | ||
| People under thirty support that. | ||
| And we have polling in the field that's going to be really eye open about how many of them support income caps, support wealth redistribution. | ||
| So these are people that Republicans are patching on the back and saying, oh, look, young ones are getting more conservative. | ||
| No, the young ones are sick of being robbed by the Uniparty Cabal and they want accountability, and so we need to see it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, brother. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, I'm going to get you on more and more and more. | ||
| You're always spot on. | ||
| Thanks for the analysis. | ||
| I'll give you a bit of good news. | ||
| In the hill, the hill rag up there we used to get in Congress, number one conservative school in the country two days ago, Liberty University. | ||
| University reported in the Hill. | ||
| So there's we're on target with the other universities. | ||
| We got to get them back into free markets and James Madison, right? | ||
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| Thanks, Mark. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, that's a good pivot to Americana. | ||
| No one better to go to than our good friend Patrick K. O'Donnell. | ||
| He's hanging with the elites up in some swanky headquarters, but it's it's populist headquarters, so we'll give you some slack. | ||
| Patrick K, where are you hanging out? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What's your research project like? | ||
| And give us a few details where you're staying here. | ||
| I'm working on my fourteenth book in this is another book on the American Revolution. | ||
| And I'm at Mount Vernon. | ||
| I'm at the DeVos House at the George Washington Presidential Library. | ||
| I'm a resident here, scholar, the senior resident scholar. | ||
| It's my second time I was awarded a fellowship to to write this book and and use the library resources. | ||
| And it's kind of like a cabin in the woods. | ||
| That's actually what I will go to that in a second. | ||
| It's kind of like a cabin in the woods with maid service, a five-star hotel. | ||
| But you're just kind of immersed in documents. | ||
| You're immersed in Mount Vernon and George Washington. | ||
| It's an extraordinary thing. | ||
| I encourage everyone to come to George Washington's Mount Vernon, amazing place. | ||
| Yeah, I could tell by your face, you're pretty happy. | ||
| Yeah, keep going. | ||
| Excited. | ||
| This is one of my favorite places on Earth. | ||
| Last night I was in Centerville, Maryland, which is on the Eastern Shore, and we commemorated the doomed Seventh Independent Company, which saved our country. | ||
| This is where Marylanders saved our country 249 years ago to this day at the Battle of Brooklyn. | ||
| Last night in particular, they fought a delaying action. | ||
| The American Thermopylae, I brought it out, as Steve has brought out several times in Washington's Immortals. | ||
| These men were in the heart of the action, a desperate arriargarde that basically saves Washington's army and the revolution, which is on the very precipice of being crushed. | ||
| But they're they provide an hour more precious in our history than any other. | ||
| This American Thermopylae in Brooklyn where the Mortal Washington's Immortals or the Mortal 400 or the Maryland 400 as they're called. | ||
| These men charge with bayonets into a house that's occupied or near a house that's occupied by Lord Cornwallis. | ||
| And they pierce a hole in the lines and allow the bulk of the American army to escape. | ||
| In the process, many of these men lose their lives. | ||
| The Seventh Independent Company, wow, from Centerville on the eastern shore, this was loyalist territory during the American Revolution. | ||
| So all these guys had tremendous guts to join the cause, but two thirds of these men never came home, Dave. | ||
| And we honored last night, for instance, Captain Edward Vasey, who was the captain of that company who was shot in the head during the battle, and Samuel Torbett Wright, who was a second lieutenant in that company, and he and many of the men would spend nearly two years in concentration like the French. | ||
| like prison ships in New York Harbor. | ||
| Most would never come home. | ||
| And what was so extraordinary is we saw what happened to Wright. | ||
| He comes home and he's like debilitated from two years on this concentration camp ship. | ||
| And then all of his farms and everything kind of went fallow, but he still had to pay his creditors. | ||
| And in this, you know, on this town square, which was hosted by the Queen Anne's Historical Society, they pointed to the tavern where he had to, you know, to be humiliated to go in front of his creditors after all that he had gone through during the American Revolution and then somehow has to. | ||
| climb his way out of debt and protect his health. | ||
| But this is what many of these guys were going through during the American Revolution that I get into as immortals. | ||
| Unreal, give the folks a sense of what's around you, the resources you're working at to further investigate that story and others. | ||
| What do you have right around you in the libraries, the resources, and anything else that just blow you over when you walked in the house or the quarters? | ||
| Oh, I mean, what's yeah? | ||
| We have the vault which contains Washington's sword, some of his original uniforms. | ||
| There's a sash, for instance, during Braddock's retreat where George Washington was more or less the second in command. | ||
| This is during the French and Indian War. | ||
| And the sash is what they used to carry Braddock, who was mortally wounded, and there's blood on the sash. | ||
| I mean, this is, there's also original documents. | ||
| It's, for me, the most important thing is it's an extraordinary kind of retreat to just put my mind in the eighteenth century completely. | ||
| And that's what I'm doing in the book is almost done. | ||
| Very excited. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| I'm going to have Thayer on after you on ending the war in Ukraine, Russia. | ||
| Million and a half dead. | ||
| Now estimates dead and wounded in Ukraine alone, a million in Russia. | ||
| You just gave the blood and guts stories there. | ||
| What Washington, you're studying Washington, you're at Washington's place at Mount Vernon, what was his view of foreign policy, foreign entanglements? | ||
| Did he agree with most of the other founders? | ||
| What were his views? | ||
| Strategic neutrality is kind of the way they summed it up. | ||
| They looked at all nations as friends, but they avoided entanglements at all costs, pretty much, unless it was strategic. | ||
| necessity for the very fragile United States at this time. | ||
| It was very, very fragile economically. | ||
| We were very concerned about our sovereignty. | ||
| And they were very concerned about the alliance with the French, for instance, which helped grant our sovereignty. | ||
| I mean, they funded us. | ||
| But one of the great things that the founders did, especially Benjamin Franklin, is they cut a deal with the British directly and left the French out of our peace deal at the end of the war. | ||
| So therefore the French were not garrisoning troops here. | ||
| We still had to pay back that foreign debt, but we weren't holding to them. | ||
| Extraordinary thing because we never wanted to be a pawn in European wars, which basically tore up Europe and could have, you know, we could, can you imagine the cannon fodder of Americans being, you know, torn into, you know, European wars? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In closing, just give us one more minute. | ||
| If Washington was around and surveyed DC right now in our foreign entanglements and the idea we've basically almost gone from being a repu a republic, it's getting scary to an empire, right? | ||
| We're trying to get out of this global empire, but what would his commentary be? | ||
| I think that America's salvation is the founding in the Revolutionary War generation. | ||
| This, you know, I I I I I I I famously asked one of the rangers that I interviewed, I've interviewed, I think, about four thousand World War two veterans, especially the elite units. | ||
| And I remember asking Lester Kness, who was with the rangers, and he, he guarded Patton. | ||
| They just came off of a raid where they, they knifeed Italians in the neck, you know, slit their throats. | ||
| And I said, you know, are you going to get out of this? | ||
| Are you guys, do you think you're the greatest generation? | ||
| He says, he said to me, Patrick, what about the men of the cause? | ||
| And that's the truth. | ||
| I mean, the cause, the Revolutionary War generation, not only fought fellow Americans who were some of the toughest people in the world, but also the greatest power in the world, naval power and land army, and then they created the freedom and liberties, the ideals that we hold so dear that are exported around the world and will change empires forever and continue to change them. | ||
| Unreal, we can hear it. | ||
| We can hear it in your voice, brother. | ||
| Thanks for being with us, Patrick. | ||
| Patrick, I'm glad to be with you, David. | ||
| Everybody go follow him, check out all his past books. | ||
| He's been on the show a ton of times. | ||
| He's a true patriot and he's our memory, right? | ||
| He's our institutional memory of what the founders were, who they were, what they set up and what we need to protect. | ||
| Bradley Thayer, we got a minute and twenty seconds. | ||
| Why don't you give us an intro thought and then we'll come back after the break. | ||
| Well, Dave, great to be with you again. | ||
| And great to follow Patrick. | ||
| His Washington's Immoral is a great book, as all of his are. | ||
| So just wonderful work. | ||
| Dave, the war in Ukraine, of course, the Russian Ukrainian war is still ongoing. | ||
| As you mentioned, reference the casualties, the horrific casualties that both sides have incurred. | ||
| And it's very important as the Trump administration is working to end this war. | ||
| And it's critical not only for humanitarian reasons, not only because it's incredible bloodletting and the blood price has been so high, and not only because in addition to that, that it could escalate, right, and suck in other powers, but because every day the war goes on, the Chinese Communist Party wins and the United States is distracted. | ||
| We are affected by this conflict when our focus needs to be on the People's Republic of China, not, as Steve has stressed many times, Dave, and you have as well, not on the eastern border of Ukraine, no matter how horrific that war is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We're going to break that up into some parts right after the break, Bradley Thayer with us. | ||
| President Trump hates to see young men dying. | ||
| You can tell it deep in his soul. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
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| you you All right, everyone back in the war room with Bradley Thayer. | ||
| Bradley, I cut you off midstream. | ||
| What can President Trump do? | ||
| What are your words of wisdom on how we end this war in Ukraine? | ||
| Well, Dave, it has to end. | ||
| The horrific attack last night, Wednesday night, Thursday morning in Kiev is just a reminder, if we need one, in terms of the constant bloodletting of this conflict. | ||
| And as you've referenced the horrific casualties the Russians have suffered and the Ukrainians have suffered, this war has to end. | ||
| Very difficult to end wars of attrition. | ||
| These guys are like two heavyweight boxers like Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier, right, who have been going fifteen rounds pounding on one another since February 2022 in the most recent iteration of this conflict. | ||
| And so with Trump's intervention, there's the possibility really for ending, there's the chance to end the conflict. | ||
| Very difficult to do so. | ||
| But nevertheless, with his intervention, we have the opportunity to bring Putin and recognize, of course, Putin and Zelenskyy are not going to get everything they want. | ||
| We have to be realistic about how this war ends and what Ukraine is going to have to give up and what Russia is going to have to give up. | ||
| But it's critical for US interests to do so. | ||
| And that recalls Patrick's remarks about George Washington's advice on American foreign policy. | ||
| The longer the war goes on, the better it is for our enemies, the Chinese Communist Party, and the worse it is for us in terms of opportunity cost, in terms of the bandwidth that our military, our intelligence community have to focus on the key threat. | ||
| that is the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
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| Well, so thank goodness for Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And God bless him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You bet, Bradley. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I know Steve's gonna have you on a longer span tomorrow, but after yesterday's bombing in Kiev, we had to get your words in here today. | ||
| Thanks for being with us, Bradley. | ||
| We're going to turn it over to the most positive human being on the planet, Ben Berkwam. | ||
| He's always high on life. | ||
| Ben, where are you? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| And then I want you to fill the posse in on what's going on with these Mexican cartels and Venezuela and battleships. | ||
| But first, where are you? | ||
| You got five minutes. | ||
| Go, brother. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We started this week in San Diego in the tunnels with the Border Patrol tunnel team. | ||
| We've made our way across the most secure border America has ever had. | ||
| I just did a ride along with ICE in San Antonio yesterday, caught five illegals. | ||
| Three of them had felony warrants, went in with the SRT team. | ||
| Incredible stuff. | ||
| Now we're here at the Gulf of America. | ||
| Literally in my background here, we got SpaceX right over here. | ||
| The Transhumanists there. | ||
| We got the Gulf of America here. | ||
| And as I drove up here, we got Border Patrol. | ||
| We got border patrol picking up three illegals. | ||
| There's border patrol right here. | ||
| They're parked right here. | ||
| I had under Joe Biden, I never once saw a border patrol agent at this location. | ||
| Now I saw five today, three illegals picked up. | ||
| It's the most secure border we've ever had. | ||
| But the biggest problem we have going back to you at the beginning is Mexico, you've got a cartel state, a cartel failed state. | ||
| And the only way that changes is if our military goes in and takes out the cartel. | ||
| The Mexican government has failed from top down. | ||
| The Venezuelan government, obviously a communist government, they are pushing their drugs and people. | ||
| This is the war we just had Bradley Theron talking about about Ukraine and Russia. | ||
| That war needs to end. | ||
| The war that really needs to be fought is the war on our southern border, and that's what President Trump is doing. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| Who's the bigger problem? | ||
| Colombia producing the cocaine, Venezuela as the entryway, Mexico, how do you rank the order of operations? | ||
| What do you go after first? | ||
| The traders in our own country. | ||
| All of those guys are secondary, tertiary to the people in our own country that are undermining us. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's the politicians. | ||
| That's the NGOs. | ||
| That's the United Nations. | ||
| Those are the real enemies. | ||
| Those are the primary. | ||
| Those should be the focal point of our efforts. | ||
| That's where the arrests should be made. | ||
| And then the other ones are easy. | ||
| They're out there. | ||
| They're not on our soil. | ||
| We take care of those on our soil first and then we go drop bombs on the guys in foreign countries. | ||
| But you list those, any day it could be equivalent. | ||
| You got the cartels in Mexico, really the politicians that run the cartels in Mexico. | ||
| You got the Venezuelans not exporting their drugs to not just America but the ports of Europe as well, working with Hezbollah and Hamas, they're a global existential threat. | ||
| Colombia now going more communist, socialist, they're a problem, but the biggest problem is within our own borders. | ||
| It's what our founding fathers, as again throwing back to Bradley Thayer talking about, our founding fathers warned us about, it's the enemies within. | ||
| Wow, spot on great stuff. | ||
| Trump, President Trump, yesterday or the day before made some comments of what you're getting at. | ||
| And he mentioned a couple of gu guys, Soros and Soros junior funding these district attorneys, producing crime. | ||
| You have to prove that. | ||
| But the NGOs and the NGOs under the United Nations, I don't think people have any of your tax dollars are going to these non government organizations, NGOs that are helping with this drug distribution. | ||
| They're indirectly aiding and abetting the trafficking, the rapes of young girls. | ||
| I mean, it's so horrendous, the American people have a hard time staring at it. | ||
| So give us a minute and a half, Ben, in closing, we got a minute and a half left on the NGOs and who's taking that down? | ||
| Is Trump taking it down? | ||
| Yeah, this is the primary threat again. | ||
| So what we had for the last fifty years, we've had NGOs working, the really communist organizations masquerading as Christian charities. | ||
| They pushed the Sanctuary State movement. | ||
| They were the ones that were pushing along with the United Nations, UNHCR, and OIM, Global Migration Pact. | ||
| They were the ones pushing the illegals in during the invasion. | ||
| They made billions of dollars. | ||
| Now they're the ones supposedly providing aid to get them out. | ||
| But what they're actually doing is funding all of the protests across America, all of the Hamas protests, all of the illegal protests, and aiding and abetting illegals. | ||
| That's where our DOJ should be focused, arresting every single one of these traitors. | ||
| I've never heard better message. | ||
| You are on fire, brother. | ||
| Man, you're A-plus. | ||
| I got a little, let's close with a little Bible here. | ||
| What did Jesus say? | ||
| Everyone thinks Jesus is loving. | ||
| He is. | ||
| But loving has a tough side to it. | ||
| What did Jesus say should happen to those who abuse the little ones among us, the little children? | ||
| What did he say should happen to them? | ||
| Something about a millstone around their neck, throw them in the ocean? | ||
| Throw them into the deepest part of the ocean. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| The deepest trench in the ocean. | ||
| Well, that Gulf of America would be a good resting place for some of these evil doers, Ben. | ||
| Send them. | ||
| We can tell you've got... | ||
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| Send them. | ||
| We're going to start a new thing, the millstones, right? | ||
| End to end the bad guys. | ||
| Everyone, everyone's all lovy, dovey, and soft. | ||
| No one wants to do the hard work like Ben Burquam and Steve Bannon in the war room. | ||
| That's why it's called the war room. | ||
| We love people, but to have love, you have to have proximate justice on earth. | ||
| We're all aiming for that. |
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