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Aug. 28, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4739: Mainstream Blames Guns While Mental Health And Satanism Are On The Rise
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john lott
10:53
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sheila matthews
06:13
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steve bannon
15:18
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brandon m showalter
03:46
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dr irwin redlener
01:04
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joe allen
02:21
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michael steele
01:10
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stephanie ruhle
01:12
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brian ohara
00:21
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brian todd
00:41
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chris hayes
00:34
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ilhan omar
00:43
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jake tapper
00:10
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miles taylor
00:57
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ron insana
00:43
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xavier becerra
00:49
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Speaker Time Text
stephanie ruhle
Of the Centers for Disease Control, Dr. Susan Menares, has been fired.
Earlier this evening, the Department of Health and Human Services announced that Dr. Menaris is, quote, no longer director of the CDC.
She was confirmed by the Senate less than a month ago.
unidentified
The Washington Post reports she was pressed for days by HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., administration lawyers, and other officials over whether she would support rescinding certain approvals for coronavirus vaccines.
stephanie ruhle
Kennedy and other officials questioned Menares on Monday on whether she was aligned with the administration's efforts to change vaccine policy.
unidentified
Well, this afternoon, Dr. Menarez's attorney said she would not resign, that she was being targeted for political reasons and that she had not been notified by the White House that she was fired.
But tonight, the White House confirmed she was officially terminated.
The CDC is now also without some key senior leaders.
stephanie ruhle
Following the HHS announcement that Menaris was out, four other top officials resigned.
unidentified
One said they could no longer serve in the role because of the ongoing weaponizing of public health.
I'm going to say that again.
Ongoing weaponizing of public health.
You have a group of individuals who, you know, as Steve Bannon originally said in 2015, and no one paid attention, are trying to deconstruct the administrative state and create a government that they burn it down to the ground.
And this is extremely dangerous stuff.
I mean, not just from an economic perspective, we know what's going on at the Fed.
From a health perspective, what's going on at the CDC and at the NIH and everywhere else in the Department of Health and Human Services.
You know, I'm 64 and a half.
I will have every pre-existing condition written out that God knows Demeno has created in order to get the vaccines that I'm entitled to so I can stay healthy, you know, before I start drawing my Medicare that I'm not going to get next year.
And so in our country, in order to continuously make excuses on why we are not going to take a collective action on the federal level that collectively addresses this problem, it's beyond me.
And I want the mothers, you know, in this country to rise up and to recognize that for the love of the Second Amendment, for the love of our gun culture, we have to have a greater love for our kids.
We have to have a greater love for the safety of our communities.
Something has to prevail because the rest of the world has decided that they love their children way more than they love their ability to have easy access to guns.
And we have to get there as well.
The reality is that we have an administration that has got this, you know, make America healthy again thing going on.
I just, for the record, just say that's a load of crap.
Because I don't know how you make people healthy when you deny them access to vaccines.
I don't know how you make people healthy when you fire the people who do the research and who do the development and work within the institutions of government to make sure you have access to all of those things that you need to be healthy.
So this is a large crock, which it typically is.
And it's frustrating on so many levels, Dr. Redliner, particularly when you see in states like West Virginia, you have efforts underway by the Trump administration to offer religious exemptions from school vaccine mandates, alarming public health advocates who see it as part of a broader campaign to undermine an effective immunization strategy.
How the hell do you make America healthy again when you put sending kids to school with exposure to potential diseases that could harm and kill them?
Can we all just get a grip and understand what's happening here?
I don't understand this.
It's amazing.
dr irwin redlener
And by the way, there's things that are happening that are not really in the public eye.
unidentified
For example, we withdrew from the World Health Organization.
And that's where we and colleagues from across the world were doing collaborative research, coming up with new ideas, new vaccines, new solutions to these problems.
And by the way, I just want to couple this for a second with the story about the school shooting.
You know, you want American children healthy and safe, and we have these 350 or 400 million guns, including assault rifles, in the general public, and then you're keeping them from getting vaccinated like they should be.
dr irwin redlener
You're creating probably the most dangerous era for children's health in more than a century.
unidentified
And it's absolutely shocking, Michael.
dr irwin redlener
And somebody's going to have to do something about this, but I really think it's going to boil down to a focus on Republican senators and them putting pressure on the administration to start with getting rid of Bobby Kennedy.
unidentified
National Guard soldiers and masked federal law enforcement officers were mobilized a thousand miles away, roaming Washington, D.C. in search of a violent crime wave that just doesn't exist.
On orders from a president who claims that he now runs that nation's capital, that he runs the whole country, that he has a right to do whatever he wants because he's president.
President who in recent days has mused openly about being a dictator, says in starkly racist language he would love to send his troops into Chicago, New York, and more American cities next.
It is a dark timeline out there, people.
I don't have to tell you that.
I've seen something like this at this agency.
Remember that this is not an agency that deals with widgets.
This is an agency that deals with health and life.
And when the CDC doesn't get it right, a lot of people die.
And when you lose your brain talent, a lot of people are going to die.
I don't know how else to put it.
xavier becerra
I know the three people who have now resigned.
They were all essential during the COVID fight.
unidentified
Dr. Doscalaskis was the point person on MPOC monkeypox.
Deb Hurry would constantly be providing us with great guidance on where we needed to go on so many different issues involving disease.
You just don't get rid of people like that and say you're going to replace them.
I don't get it.
It doesn't make sense.
And America's going to feel the pain.
steve bannon
When you seize the institutions, let's seize them.
unidentified
This is what the left, this is why the country is in such a bad shape.
steve bannon
This is why the Republican Party for years has been the controlled opposition.
This rot in our institution, you think it just occurred overnight?
Decade after decade after decade, tapping it along.
unidentified
There's nowhere where that's more relevant than getting to make your own decisions or letting someone else.
And Donald Trump wants to keep making your decisions for you.
And you mentioned it with gerrymandering, Nicole, but it goes beyond that.
We just got news that they've installed a head of election security at DHS who's going to use the powers of DHS to try to rig the 2026 election in Donald Trump's favor.
He wants to keep making your decisions for you.
And we know what Republicans would call this if it was happening to them.
In the party I came from, if troops were deployed on their streets, if their vote was being taken away from them, they would call it civil war.
That's how serious they would treat it.
miles taylor
Now, we shouldn't say that in response.
We don't want an armed response to Donald Trump's takeover, but we need to treat it with that level of seriousness because that's what Republicans would call it.
The presidential revenge campaign has gone to places this country has never seen before, and we need to mount a nonviolent response that's never been seen before.
unidentified
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
unidentified
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
steve bannon
It's going to happen.
unidentified
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
jake tapper
MAGA media.
unidentified
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Thursday, 28 August in the year of our Lord, 2025.
So many fronts.
So much progress we're making in really taking control of this country and trying to save it from these demonic progressives, Marxists, jihadists, the whole dog's breakfast of people that hate America.
Obviously, they hate the mega movement and they hate President Trump.
First order of business.
Here's what we're going to do.
We're going to get to the CDC, the trucker situation.
We're going to get to that.
steve bannon
Ukraine, the Russians last night, ballistic missile attack, drone attack, just absolutely pounding the capital city of Kiev.
unidentified
Thayer's going to be on later.
steve bannon
We're also going to talk about the battle group that's down in, or the amphibious assault group that's down or heading to the Caribbean with some Navy escorts.
unidentified
Got some destroyers down there.
But what's happening in Central America, the cartel wars are coming to Mexico, Central America, maybe even Venezuela.
But we've got to start with this shooting yesterday.
And the reason is we curated and went through everything.
And I personally watched all of MSNBC last night and CNN.
steve bannon
We did it kind of on a thing so I could find it.
unidentified
And not one time in all those shows did they ever talk about the shooter, the transgender ideology, his dudes, because he is a man, right?
His whatever transition he's going through, the psychological issues, demonic.
steve bannon
So we've got Brandon Schowalter on.
unidentified
Joe Allen is actually in the war room.
John Lott's going to join us.
I want to start with Sheila Matthews.
steve bannon
Sheila, you have made this case now for you, and it's so obvious that you, ma'am, are onto something big that they want to hide because they go through.
unidentified
And you said something to me yesterday, just in the middle of when this first came out, that when they had these press conferences or they're seeing the armored vehicles going around the neighborhood and you have the 5,000 cops show up and SWAT teams after the fact, that these things are made to confuse you.
And the media, when you look at it that way, it's absolutely correct.
It's to take the spotlight off the thing itself and to put it in all these sideshows.
And then they perfect it later in the evening when they get their major host on.
But we can't do this anymore.
This has to stop because this is an epidemic or a pandemic.
And it's not about guns and it's not about AR-15s.
It's none of that.
steve bannon
We have a massive problem in this country.
unidentified
And of course, today, between Brandon Schowalter, Stephen K. Bannon, and Joe Allen, and you, we have different angles of attack on that, but I think it still gets back to the railhead.
steve bannon
Explain to us yesterday what happened and how this fits into your theory of the case of what we're dealing with here, ma'am.
unidentified
Sure.
sheila matthews
Thanks, Steve, for having Able Child on again.
unidentified
We've been working on mass killings for over 12 years, longer than before Sandy Hook.
And basically what happened yesterday was you have a massive crime scene.
You have a ballistics nightmare because of the three guns that were being used.
So we have to make sure that that is collected properly.
You have a dead body, a suicide victim after committing two homicides.
So you have a crime scene.
And so this is what tells us the facts.
And Able Child over the years have been pointing out that the common factor is that the mental health records are suppressed, that the psychiatric industry is completely let off the hook,
and the family members are often shielded by these mental health providers that scoop in and are sent directly into the crime scene when they are participants in the lead up often to these mass killings.
sheila matthews
So we have a very confused situation.
unidentified
We have a mayor who really is a drama king that is pinning communities against each other.
And in the meanwhile, we have valuable evidence that needs to be collected.
And we're not doing that.
And the past history of these mass killings have this one thing in common.
Corrupted crime scenes, withholding of mental health records.
So we have to look at the facts.
sheila matthews
We can't get emotional about this.
unidentified
I mean, the families are already emotional.
Having people come in and do these drama proclamations of it's about gun control, it's about getting more mental health.
sheila matthews
This is the problem because then we lose sight of the legislation that needs to happen in the aftermath of these mass killings, Steve.
unidentified
Okay, hang on for one second.
Hang on one second.
We're going to, Sheila's going to be with us.
We've got Brandon Schowalter.
It's done more than any individual in this country to lead the fight against this radical transgender ideology.
We've got Joe Allen, who's also, I think, spent the last 10 or 15 years of his life studying this situation.
steve bannon
John Lott, who's done such an amazing job, and he's here to talk about this killing.
He's also here to give us some guidance on what's happening in D.C. and how it's going to roll out throughout the country.
unidentified
We have a crisis with these young men.
I think now and some young women, but it's got to be dealt with.
We need to find out exactly what's going on with these mental health professionals.
What is happening, what is being advocated, what drugs are being given.
steve bannon
That's your problem.
unidentified
You get to the bottom of that, you're going to solve a lot of this.
And all this yesterday, Sheila's absolutely correct, the mayor was a disgrace.
Absolute disgrace.
steve bannon
He's a drama queen running around.
unidentified
And Waltz, the governor, what a clown.
Think about it.
That guy was almost vice president of the United States.
Think about that.
Think about a party that would put that guy up to be a vice president of the United States.
Meditate on that for a moment.
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The video also shows written statements and several guns painted with slurs.
In another clip, the speaker simply reads aloud from a clothes dryer manual.
Dryer safety.
Your safety and the safety of others are very important.
Police say they also found a litany of writings.
We're also aware of a manifesto that the shooter had timed to be released on YouTube.
This manifesto appeared to show him at the scene and included some disturbing writings.
That content has since been taken down with the assistance of the FBI, and it now remains under active review by our investigators.
Apparently, part of the plan that the shooter seemed to illustrate in those same videos on YouTube, a photo of a slab of wood.
An actual slab of wood was found at the scene blocking a door from the outside.
This will be for the emergency exit.
Pop it through the hand.
According to social media posts, the shooter's mother worked at the school from 2016 to 2021, and the shooter graduated from the school in 2017.
The shooter, now known as 23-year-old Robin Westman, identified as a female and changed their name legally to Robin from Robert in 2020.
Well, he's Robert to us.
Okay.
You got to stop this, you got to stop this madness about going along with it.
steve bannon
If you go along with it, then you're just adding to the madness.
unidentified
Sheila, I want to go back to your theory of the case once again about the psychiatrist, the drugs, the handling of this, because all we get bombarded with is mental health and mental health professionals when they are part of the problem, if not the problem.
Man, why is it hidden from us?
And I do want to thank the authorities.
Instead of having Michael Patrick Leahy still fight in court to try to get years after the case or try to get the manifesto of the last transgender person that shot up a bunch of tiny children, right?
At least they put out the manifesto and other aspects of this yesterday.
But what's your theory of the case here dealing with psychiatrists, the big pharma, and the mental health professional community, ma'am?
Well, I believe that they're hiding behind the HIPAA laws.
So HIPAA is supposed to protect children like this little boy.
If you look at his little picture of that little boy, the parents sought mental help because they obviously embraced his transition.
sheila matthews
So the HIPAA laws are to protect the consumer, not to protect the treating psychiatrist.
So all this transgender and this psychiatric intervention has to be exposed because we have to make sure that there's not psychiatric abuse of these children going on within the treatment, which we clearly see throughout these mass killings of children on a cocktail of drugs like Adam Lanza, who was drugged all the way up through on a cocktail of drugs.
unidentified
And these drugs have never been tested before in humans.
sheila matthews
This is all drug experiment.
unidentified
So HIPAA is not there to protect the psychiatrist.
sheila matthews
The FBI and the police are not there to protect the contracts that the government has with these vendors.
unidentified
It is to protect the mental health consumer who is going for mental health treatment.
So that's why it's important to open these records up.
sheila matthews
It's the humane thing to do.
In this country today, we do not have human rights in mental health.
This is forced treatment, and it is evident throughout the mass killings throughout this country because a lot of these killers have been mandated onto psychiatric drugs by courts.
We have a separate mental health court.
So we have an industry that has set up shop within our government and they refuse to give us any information.
They're also the same industry, by the way, Steve, that collects their own data.
unidentified
So they collect the data on how many kids are on these psych drugs, but they will not release it to the public, which is a crime against humanity.
sheila matthews
This is a human rights crisis in mental health.
This is over-drugging.
This is drug repeat diagnosed with these fraudulent labels that are ever expanding with no signs behind them and then drugging them on a cocktail of drugs.
Our organization has been working on this and we're happy to work with any lawmaker, but the lawmakers are part of the problem.
They're covering up for these massive mental health contracts.
unidentified
Hang on for a second, Shayla.
I'm going to go to Brandon Schowalter.
steve bannon
Brandon, Cat Turt has got up a post I reposted on Getter.
It's got like eight or ten of these with Nashville, et cetera.
I don't know if in a row, but pretty close to being in a row of this coming from people undergoing this transgender ideology, these people going through transitions.
unidentified
What's happening here?
You've been the guy at the tip of the spear of this.
And this one's particularly demonic and vicious.
This guy had a very sophisticated way how he's going to block the school and basically shoot up all these little kids while they're at mass.
steve bannon
So this is a completely, this is one level, a guy who's really thinking through how he's going to commit mass slaughter, sir.
brandon m showalter
Yes, Steve, and my heart again goes out to all the families who are enduring these excruciating losses and all the suffering victims.
unidentified
I don't know what it's going to take.
I mean, dead children praying maybe that we finally reckon with the absolute poison that is gender ideology.
And you have, you're correct that there have been a series of these shootings where the shooter has been a very gender-confused person.
And, you know, we just can't see this and not notice the contributing factor that this is.
Because if you're going to tell a lie to a child that he's born in the wrong body, it's going to drive them crazy.
Now, can I make the connective loop between this action of meticulous planning of a massacre and this gender confusion?
Well, no, I don't want to make the correlation causation fallacy, but it's a trend.
As you mentioned, there, there have been a number of shootings, and I just, I can only just imagine just what this does to a child's psychology when you lie to them about something so basic about their bodies, and then you drug them and maybe cut them.
brandon m showalter
I mean, we don't know the full scope of the treatment of this latest shooter, but clearly he was a disturbed and confused individual.
unidentified
But what I'd like to point out, Steve, is that this goes all the way to the top.
Yesterday when I was on your show, I pointed out how Mayor Fry pointed out that we need to not, you know, hate the trans community in the wake of this.
I'm like, on what, in what universe does, are you going to try and protect somebody who's like, there's a guy carries out a murder, murder of children, and then you're rushing to defend a group of which he's a part of.
brandon m showalter
Like, I don't understand how in the world that's like your first, you know, this just goes to show the demonic nature of it.
unidentified
And even this morning, the New York Times, this is the headline.
Minneapolis suspect knew her target, her target, but motive is a mystery.
That's how deep the lies go.
Our elite media, our political leaders, especially on the left, are completely consumed with these lies, such that they're just completely captured by all of this stuff, and they're rushing to defend.
Even as you see a video where this guy has a Jesus head on a target and he's listing about how much he hates Christians and Jews.
brandon m showalter
I mean, it's like the motive is a mystery.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
I mean, the demonic face of this could not be more apparent.
Okay, Anit Grace and Mo, if you get, we've got, they've got the video up.
steve bannon
He's giggling.
unidentified
He's laughing when he's talking about his victims.
They've got so many different parts of the video.
Ben, you've got the written part of it, too.
A cat turd put this up.
Denver shooter, trans.
Aberdeen shooter, trans.
Nashville shooter, trans.
Georgia shooter, trans.
Philadelphia shooter, trans.
Iowa shooter, gender fluid.
Evalde shooter, trans, Colorado shooter, trans.
Minnesota shooter, trans.
Gosh, I think I see some pattern recognition.
And it gets back to Sheila's thing.
This is also about the psychiatric people that are treating, quote-unquote, treating these people.
What drugs are they given?
What are they doing?
What are their mental health records?
This is obvious what's going on.
And now, and yesterday could have been a hundred times worse, right?
Except for some heroic action by the folks, and particularly some of the little kids inside to do some protection.
Hang on for a second, Brandon.
steve bannon
I want to bring in Joe Allen.
unidentified
Joe, you've also been at this.
You've also been at this for a while.
I know you come at this from a slightly different angle of attack.
How long have you been studying mass killings, Joe Allen?
I did my first in-depth research on mass killings in 1998 using court documents from the Lilly Lid murders in Greene County, Tennessee.
And I lost my taste for it in 2015 after the Charleston shooting by Dylan Roof.
joe allen
I spent way more time on this than any normal human being should.
unidentified
The New York Post has a cover, if we can get that up.
And by the way, we're going to go to break and bring everybody back saying this is demonic, that this guy was part of a satanic cult, that this is very much a work, direct work of Satan through this guy, through his body as an instrument.
Your thoughts, sir?
In the short time we have, I have to say that that's probably the most accurate headline that we're going to see.
But as we go into it, I think looking at this from a historical perspective is not going to be very politically useful.
Okay.
We'll drill down to that.
We also have John Lott with us.
Sheila Matthews from Able Child.
Brandon Schowalter has been at the tip of the spear of fighting this scourge.
Transgender ideology is a scourge.
And people have made money off this.
It's the worst blood money you can have.
Absolutely disgusting.
New York Times headline, motive unclear.
Yo, dude, watch the video.
Read his manifesto.
And thank God for the authorities for putting it out that we didn't have to go to court and fight for two years because they don't want the truth out whatsoever.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Tell Joe to hang around.
Okay, let me bring in John Lott.
steve bannon
John, you do this for a living professionally.
Give me your assessment of yesterday and particularly the misdirection play.
unidentified
You could watch television all day, read the New York Times.
They never really get to the heart of the matter.
And they do this on purpose.
They're there to confuse you.
And then you have all the, you know, all the armored cars show up.
What really ticks me off is when you get there and you got 5,000 SWAT guys and they're all walking around up armored and you got, you know, you got the half-tracks there and the Humvees with 50 caliber machine guns, everything after that.
But we don't get to the part that you need to get to solve this, which is the psychiatrist, this mental health.
And now we got the transgenders on a raid shooting.
It's deeper than that.
You've also got these other kids they misdiagnose.
As a professional that does this for a living, what's your assessment of yesterday?
And what does this tell us?
Well, I mean, I agree with you that there's a real mental health issue here, and particularly with regard to these transgenders.
I mean, they are massively, compared to their share of the population, engaged in these types of actions, about seven times more than their share of the population.
But, you know, you mentioned the misinformation in the media.
I have lots of pet peeves, but one of the main ones is these diaries and manifestos, not just for the murderer yesterday, but time after time after time, explain why they picked the targets that they do.
To me, that seems like a very newsworthy piece of information, but yet you will never see the media go through and quote or mention that they pick these targets because they want to go to a place where their victims can't defend themselves.
This manifesto that came out explicitly explains that he wants to go to a place where victims aren't able to defend themselves.
He calls them what they are, gun-free zones.
And he says that he wants to do that because it will make it easier for him to kill more people.
And, you know, whether it be the Nashville Covenant School shooter or whether it be the Buffalo grocery store guy or going all the way back to Columbine, you see similar types of statements that are there.
And so, and, you know, and it's extremely explicit, but yet the media says, well, you know, we don't know why he picked the target that he did.
We know his mom worked at the school, and they try to draw connections like that.
john lott
But, you know, I just don't understand why they refuse.
They just absolutely, nowhere in the media, I tried doing news searches last night, and even though it's clear as day in his manifesto that he had there, that he picked it because it was a gun-free zone, they refuse to do that.
unidentified
My guess is the whole gun control debate that we have right now would be dramatically different if even once in a while the media would say why they picked the target because they wanted to go to a place, a soft target where they knew their victims couldn't defend themselves.
And once in a while mention, we've had yet another mass public shooting where civilians were banned from being able to go and have guns.
john lott
These guys may be crazy, but they're not stupid.
unidentified
Their goal is to get media coverage, and they clearly know the more people they kill or harm, the more media coverage that they're going to get.
And they know if they go to a place where their victims can't defend themselves, they're going to be able to go and kill more people and get more media coverage.
The reason that the media is not going to cover that is the purpose of the media, and you see for these ridiculous every night these happen, this is all about trying to make some case to take weapons away from citizens.
It's so obvious.
It's so obvious.
It's almost stupid, right?
They were relentless.
I want to go back.
If you go to these manifestos, and I really want to thank the authorities, this is all coming because now you got Kash Patel running the FBI and Pam Bundy as Attorney General putting the pressure on them that the manifesto was released right away.
steve bannon
They're still fighting to get the entire manifesto out of Nashville, what, over two years afterwards.
unidentified
These manifestos are pretty detailed.
I mean, and they talk about their rage.
They talk about their hate.
They talk about the people they do hate.
And they talk about why they were targeted, right?
steve bannon
So why isn't this connected together as a body of evidence to show that about the mental health and particularly these transgenders now are getting even more?
unidentified
Don't get me wrong, the whole thing is horrible about the psychiatric treatment, the misdiagnosis, big pharma putting these kids under drugs, the psychiatrist never being held accountable because they're an accessory to this.
They are accessories.
Big Pharma is an accessory.
And in certain situations, the parents are accessories before the fact.
But why do they, all the information is right there in the manifestos.
Why do they refuse to let these manifestos out unless connect dots, sir?
Right.
Well, you know, a little bit more than half of the mass public shooters over the last 25 years have been seeing mental health care experts prior to engaging in the attack.
And one of the amazing things is that not in one single case did the mental health care experts identify any of those individuals as a danger to themselves or others.
You know, part of the problem is the way mental health is set up, that they're used to people, their model is people who are troubled come to them for help.
And so they basically assume that whatever the person tells them is accurate.
When you read through these diaries and manifestos, you're usually doing with fairly smart people, but even just a basic level of intelligence, they realize that it's crazy for them to go and tell somebody, I'm going to go and shoot somebody up.
You know, you have cases like the Buffalo mass murderer at the grocery store.
He had been in high school.
At the end of high school year, a teacher had asked him what he was planning on doing over the summer.
john lott
He said, I'm going to go and find a school that has summer classes and shoot it up and kill lots of people and then go and commit suicide.
Obviously, the teacher was alarmed.
unidentified
She went and told the proper authorities about it.
He ended up being assigned to go and see two mental health care professionals.
And what he told them was, look, it was a stupid joke.
john lott
I shouldn't have said it.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
I won't do it again.
And the mental health care professionals basically just took him at his word.
You look at somebody like the Santa Barbara mass murderer.
He was actually seeing three mental health care professionals.
One of them, the head of child psychiatric services at Los Angeles Children's Hospital, one of the leading experts on child violence in the world.
And he writes in his diaries there about how easy it is to fool the person because all he has to do is just say, when he's asked if he's thinking about doing anything violent, he says, of course not.
john lott
I have nothing to do with that.
unidentified
I'm not going to, I have no desire to do anything.
And the mental health care experts would just basically take him at his word that that's what he wanted to do.
john lott
So unless they want to get caught, unless they want to be stopped from doing these things, you know, you're not going to, the way the mental health care profession is set up, you're not going to stop them.
unidentified
You're not going to catch them.
And it's, you know, it's scary.
I force myself to go and read through diary or manifesto one after another.
You know, one of the things also that the media does in order to cover these things up is, you know, they want to make it sound like this is a white supremacy type thing.
You know, if you look at the motives for these killers, about 75% of the time, they have no political motive.
They're just individuals who are just purely suicidal and they want to get media attention.
People have always wanted to go and commit suicide.
But someplace along the line, people realize that they could get worldwide media attention by killing lots of people.
And that, as they would say, if I can only kill more people than such and such did, I can get more media attention.
Or they'll say, get my name in the history books.
And people don't appreciate me, but at least they'll appreciate me now and know that I was here.
And so, if you want to stop these things, I'm not going and saying getting rid of the First Amendment and rewriting it somehow.
john lott
I'm not even sure how you would do that.
unidentified
But what you have to do is take away their ability to go and get that attention.
And the way you do that is by making it so somebody there is able to quickly respond to go and stop them.
Look, we have over 10,000 schools in the United States that have armed teachers and staff.
We've had many of them for decades.
There has not been one single attack at any school that allows armed teachers and staff where anybody's been killed or wounded.
All the attacks occur at other places.
Now, one difference I have with many conservatives is they want to have armed uniformed police officers in schools.
And the problem that you have is that these attackers have real tactical advantages.
If they see somebody in uniform, they can either wait for that person to leave, maybe go to another building before they attack, or they can move on to another target themselves.
Or if they're going to attack, who do you think they take out first if they're going to go there?
They're going to take out the one person in uniform, the one person that they know who has a gun.
You know, one way to think about this is we have air marshals on planes.
Does anybody think air marshals ought to be in uniform?
john lott
Do you think that would be useful?
unidentified
We would never do that because if there is a terrorist on a plane and you have the one air marshal there on the plane in uniform, you're giving the terrorist a real advantage to know who it is he has to take out first.
And so the same thing is true with officers.
john lott
If you're going to have a police officer at the school, then please don't have them in uniform.
Make them a staff person, a PE coach or something so they blend in.
unidentified
But rather than having signs in front of schools that say these schools are gun-free zones, please put a sign in front of the school that says warning.
john lott
Select teachers and staff are carrying concealed and will use these guns to protect the students and others there.
unidentified
You know, outside of California and New York, we're talking about about 10% of the adult population in the country with a concealed carry permit.
You can go to a mall, you can go to a grocery store, you can go to a restaurant, and there's very likely somebody nearby you who has a gun, but you would never know.
And the same thing is true with these terrorists.
They won't know if there's a teacher behind them or to the side who might be able to go and stop them.
And that deters them from going in there.
Just read the diaries.
Read the diary or manifesto that came out yesterday where the person explicitly, and they do this over and over again, explain why they picked the targets that they do.
The media doesn't have to guess, as they're doing in this case here.
Just read it and just report it.
But you will, I did news searches last night.
You will not find one single news outlet, not Fox, not any place, surely not the New York Times and Washington Post and places like that, which will go and have a news article on how they pick the target that they do.
For years, I've talked to editors at different news bureaus, and I say, look, we've had yet another mass public shooting at a place where guns are banned.
Can't we mention that?
You mentioned the type of gun you use.
You mentioned how you think the person got the gun.
Many times the initial news reports are wrong on those things.
This is something easy to check.
And they say, okay, John, if you can get back to me quickly within the news cycle, and I would do that for years.
But what would happen is, is that when I did get back to him, they said, well, it would be political if we included that.
And my response is saying that they picked a place where people were banned from having guns.
Is that more or less political than you going and calling it an assault weapon or going or going and guessing how you think they got a hold of the gun?
You know, they have all these laws that they want to pass.
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unidentified
Get up the learning curve.
President Trump just went out with a, which I'm going to get a lot back on here in a minute.
President Trump just went up three minutes ago.
Governor Pritzker had six murders in Chicago this weekend.
steve bannon
20 people were shot, but he doesn't want to ask me for help.
unidentified
Can this be possible?
The people are desperate for me to stop the crime, something the Democrats aren't capable of doing.
steve bannon
Stay tuned, President DJT.
unidentified
I think the Templates and work in the nation's capital is coming to the windy city.
I'll get into that with John a lot in a moment.
Also, CDC, we've got so much to do.
Joe Allen, you're going to be back at six to go in this more depth because you've studied this quite thoroughly.
It also ties together with a lot of the stuff about transhumanism.
You're going to connect some dots this afternoon, but give me your best two minutes right now, sir.
Well, Steve, it is an absolute scandal that the media has refused, by and large, to show the manifesto to highlight the transgender identity of the shooter or really delve into the motive as stated in the manifesto.
And you can see in the writings in the clip, everything from kick the spick to six million wasn't enough to kill Donald Trump, a schizo sort of motive.
joe allen
But if you look at the motives they do emphasize, such as the motives of Dylan Roof in Charleston, South Carolina, 2015, white nationalism, if you look at the motive of Anders Breivik in Norway, mass immigration was his issue.
unidentified
He wanted to kill off all the immigrants and spark the movement to kill the liberals.
But you also have some exceptions to the rule.
You have Cho, the Asian Virginia tech shooter in 2007, who killed on the basis of social justice warrior ideology.
You have the black shooters in 2013, Christopher Dorner and Aaron Alexis, one a cop and the other, I believe, a soldier shooting up the Navy yard just south of here in the Washington, D.C. Navy Yard.
So you have this wide array of ideologies.
joe allen
I think the trans ideology is important, but a shooting that happened in my own hometown 2008 at the Unitarian Universalist Church was conducted by a guy who was amped up on Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Hannity.
So I think that the ideological angle is important, but I think that to show this in the light of it's because of trans is grossly inaccurate.
unidentified
Okay, fine.
We'll get more clarity because that was clear as mud.
We'll get more clarity from you at six o'clock.
Jerry and Joe, stick around.
I need you.
I need you as a camera operator in the war room trying to get Michael Caputo there.
steve bannon
Brandon Showwalter, I know you disagree.
unidentified
This is what this show is about.
What do you got for us?
Well, I wouldn't want to, again, I wouldn't want to make any quote of correlation, causation, fallacy, or conclusive proof, but I can't help but notice that this episode, Steve, crystallizes just how dark and diabolical transgender ideology is.
It's, you know, it leads nowhere good.
We are doing a massive disservice lying to young people about something as basic as their bodies.
And if you read that guy, you watch that video, if you can stomach to see his manifesto, the demonic nature of it is readily apparent.
And what this shows also is just how far this has captured the tops of our society, particularly the mass media and the Democratic Party as a whole.
It leads nowhere good.
brandon m showalter
When we lie to children about the basics of their bodies, they are going crazy.
unidentified
And so again, I'm not going to say this is the direct cause of this massacre, but it sure doesn't help, and I'll just leave it there.
Yeah, Grace and Ma need to bundle and make sure everybody, but this weekend, folks, you've got to watch the videos and you've got to read this guy's writing.
steve bannon
You need to see the manifestos out.
You need to see it.
unidentified
Brandon did such an extraordinary job and all that.
What's your social media, Brandon?
Where did people go to follow all the great work you've done to combat this quite dangerous ideology, sir?
I'm on X at Brandon M show, and I would point everyone to our latest episode of our documentary podcast series called Generation Indoctrination.
We highlight the siblings and this transgender ideology rips apart families.
And this new, very original shoe leather reporting episode is about the siblings who have watched their brothers and sisters collapse into this confusion.
brandon m showalter
It's a heart-rending episode, and you can hear it at generationindoctrination.com or wherever you get your podcasts on all major platforms.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
Sheila Matthews, you got two minutes.
Walk us through what needs to be done.
You've been hammering this.
You've been dead right on this from the beginning.
What is Able Child saying needs to be done immediately, ma'am?
Well, we need to open up the mental health records.
sheila matthews
We need to really discuss the fraud of the diagnosing of the labels.
unidentified
There's no science behind it and the relationship between the government.
As of yesterday, Pam Bondi announced going into Labor Day that children should be aware of fentanyl and to be wary of the pills that they take.
She defended Adderall and Xanax as being okay to take.
And I think we need to have a conversation about the prescription drugs that are given out to one in four Americans.
And that's one, these children are on a cocktail of drugs.
sheila matthews
This is inhumane.
This is a human rights issue.
unidentified
This is not a political issue.
This is about getting to the evidence.
And we need to do that through opening the records and educating the public on the relationship that the government has with endorsing psychiatric treatments for our children in schools.
We have an abundance of mental health.
sheila matthews
We are in a crisis financially.
unidentified
And we have to look at the billions of dollars spent on these fraudulent labels and these dangerous, mind-altering drugs.
And Able Child's.
Sheila, real quickly, where do people go to get you?
They come to ablechild.org.
Our board member, Kelly O'Mara, has a book out called Still Psyched Out.
sheila matthews
We recommend you read it.
unidentified
Ma'am, great.
Thank you for doing this, Sheila Matthews.
Brandon Schowolder.
John Loss is going to stick with me.
We've got Mary Holland.
steve bannon
What is happening at the CDC?
What is happening with these issues regarding vaccines?
unidentified
Where does the military go next?
On what city in the United States?
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