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Episode 4737: The Populist College Guide; Comey Leaks
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It's Wednesday, 27 August, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
I think you noticed that there's so much going on in August.
No one took vacation.
I don't even think the Morning Joe crowd did.
Everybody was at it the entire time because President Trump's driving the action here.
I'll get into the Weigel story in a while.
Weigel's put up a poll.
It's like 1,200 people, so it's not a tiny poll that serves 53%.
who wanted to run for a third term.
I want to go, Caroline, I want to get you back in.
First off, seizing the institutions.
So when we talk about this coalition, and we do have a coalition, and I agree with you, the major fights between the populist right, the populist nationalist right, and still the globalist tech bros to come.
But even – You've got the Ted Cruz and the Ron DeSantis, the old traditional limited government folks, which is still a big contingent.
You've got the religious right, the evangelicals, those three groups.
alone, before you lose the tech right, some of the things President Trump is doing, yes, he is listening to a lot of different people, but he's driving in a direction that's not traditional Republicanism.
And he's seizing the institutions.
This thing with the Federal Reserve, you know, we've had David Malpass on a lot.
over the last month.
David now here is on the shortlist for this new governorship that's going to come open.
And Scott Besson, as you know, is a safe pair of hands.
He's not a guy that runs around.
The reason he's Secretary of Treasury is just his calm demeanor and the fact that he doesn't go out and jump on things.
Scott said this morning, hey, she's got to be prosecuted.
She has not denied the mortgage fraud.
And he said, how do you have somebody as a governor of the Federal Reserve, right?
That's, you know, has had mortgage fraud, pretty blatant mortgage fraud.
So talk to me about the seizing of the institutions, whether it's doing this thing.
And you've got these liberals.
I think you had Glasner on arguing there's no crime in D.C., that this is overreach.
Talk about the seizure of the institutions, whether it's the courts, whether it's the Justice Department, the FBI, whether it's the Federal Reserve.
And remember, we're in the strategy of the maximalists.
We want to put the pedal to the metal because we say we're burning daylight.
You got to get these things done.
So we're the whether it's redistricting, you know, take take the 30 seats and take them now.
Texas still owes us another five of the five they got.
How do you think one, how do you think President Trump's doing in that regard given the three hour board, you know, basically board of directors, meaning you saw it yesterday, and coupled with how do you hold that traditional part of the that you came from, quite frankly, of the of the Republican Party, ma'am?
caroline wren
Well, I think he's doing fantastic.
I did love the premise of this Axios article that you referred in the beginning, which was, quote, Trump has exerted decisive control over every inch of the executive branch.
Well, yeah, he is the head of the executive branch.
So I think it's a good thing that he has taken decisive control.
But what's funny is that these journalists are just so blown away by Trump.
It's because they're used to these frankly cocked politicians that bow to every institution that they were actually elected to govern over, that the constitution directs them to govern over.
But somehow they actually bowed the knee to these institutions.
So much of Washington, our elected officials were run by the institutions.
It is supposed to be the other way around.
And so that's why when Trump has come in and truly taken over the institutions of which he is in charge.
of and in fact should.
It is a earthquake in DC.
But I think we should talk about the key genius here, who truly is Stephen Miller.
Stephen Miller has studied these institutions and how to dismantle them since he was sixteen years old.
And he came into this administration not only prepared to dismantle them, but boldened by President Trump to do so.
And he really is the driving force behind what I think is an incredible success.
And in the Axios article, they lay out a lot of those successes.
But then one thing I kind of thought was where they say there's still remaining resistance that needs to be done.
One thing they brought up the judicial branch, which obviously is true now..
Now it is the judicial branch is its own branch of government.
I blame a lot of the problems with the judicial branch actually around Mitch McConnell, Leonard Leo and the idiots that put in these like Bush, you know, Republican judges in the first Trump term that have been disasters.
And so this time around, I'm glad we're not listening to the Leonard Leo and those folks.
But, you know, they bring up the media as being remaining resistance.
Well, we do have a brilliant FCC chairman in Brendan Carr who I think is doing a lot to dismantle the media.
I still would love to see him actually strip one of these news outlets, uh, news outlets, uh, from their licenses, something Trump's talked about.
But he's won a number of settlements, forced settlements against some of these organizations, and I can't wait to see what's going to happen with the Wall Street Journal.
So overall, I'm very, very pleased, and I want to see more dismantling of the institutions.
I love it.
steve bannon
Hang off for a second.
Hang off for a second.
A couple of the big wins that we, because remember, the war room is also the home of the neo-Brandisian movement, where we think Lena Khan did a tremendous job in the first term.
We're against this concentration.
You just talked about the tech bros.
Folks, the difference in the first term and the second term and those years in between is the concentration of power in big pharma, big ag, big tech, right?
The big media, Wall Street.
It's the concentration of power.
They're taking all the lobbyists.
They're taking, you know, all the top law firms, all the communications firms.
We've got two massive cases we're working on, and now we find out Zuckerberg's back in the Oval Office.
You're hearing, and, you know, the FTC.
Andrew Ferguson has done a tremendous job taking a case that was filed in the last days of President Trump's first term.
Lena Khan kind of perfected it over her time, and Andrew Ferguson has got him in court to essentially break up a big part of Facebook.
And now we hear that, you know, Zuckerberg's back hovering around the White House.
Gates spent two hours after the president's three-hour board meeting or cabinet meeting, Gates is in the oval for two hours arguing his case on vaccines, USAID, all that.
So are we going to continue to win this or the forces of concentration of power, money and power are going to thwart our efforts here to try to break up some of these institutions and particularly try to break up certain of these institutions, whether it's Facebook, whether it's Google, et cetera, ma'am.
caroline wren
Well, I think that we are winning right now in the Trump administration is breaking up institutions.
For example, putting Darren Beatty as head of what is it?
The National Institute for Peace, which was just a massive money laundering building organization in DC to channel money to USAID.
That those institutions were winning.
I still think the corporations are its own massive animal.
Well, I like you, thought Lena Khan was one of the most brilliant people we've seen.
I wish actually she would have stayed around for this Trump administration.
So how Trump and this administration are going to handle the corporations is still something that we are kind of waiting and watching.
I've been very nervous to see the embracement, I guess, of folks like Zuckerberg.
and Gates and others, but also I understand what the Trump administration is doing.
They're bringing in all sorts of voices, trying to make the tent bigger, but we'll see when it matters.
Does Trump hold the line against these folks?
And I think that it's still too early to say, but I have a lot of faith in President Trump to do it, and I'm certainly going to remain vocal and as you are, and to hope for those outcomes.
But yeah, these guys are definitely, they're coming around.
They're donating a lot of money to President Trump's different groups.
But again, just because you donate money, it doesn't mean you're going to get what you want in this Trump administration.
And so these institutions, you know, putting Rick Ronnell in charge of the Kenney Center., genius.
What he is doing over there is brilliant.
So I do like to see that, but the corporations are still a big, big problem.
steve bannon
Let's go to, by the way, President Trump's got a couple of things on True Social today.
One is about Carl Rove, and that's the problem at Fox continues to exist.
The other is about he wants to bring, I think, Rico charges against Soros.
Is that a little bit missing the boat?
Talk to me about Arabella and some of these organizations that we cannot totally figure out.
how some of these institutions on the left get their cash.
Soros yesterday's news and Arabella is where the focus should be, ma'am?
caroline wren
No, because Soros and Arabella are directly linked.
In fact, the person who's basically in charge of Arabell Advisors right now is Soros' son, Alex Soros.
So let's say Arabell Advisors was formed in 2005 and it was formed after the Democrats had lost the House, Senate, and the presidency.
And so George Soros called a meeting of the top progressive donors in the country and then invited a couple of the top political consultants and the donors told them, you just collectively wasted hundreds of millions of our dollars.
You have nothing to show for it.
Come back to us with a plan that involves funding ideas and institutions that will live beyond one election cycle.
From that meeting, you got Arabell Advisors.
It was conceived there and it was, it's, you know, it's a, you know, a philanthropic consulting company that manages tens of billions, some say over seventy five billion with a B in foundation support and those foundations support left wing woke causes and institutions.
Now, Arabell essentially runs about two hundred non-profit organizations.
They're the fiscal sponsor for them, but really what they do is they are they they fund these grassroots groups which are anything but they're actually political, you know, political run entities.
And so, for example, the No Kings protest, Arabell Visors funded that.
It's funded largely by a lot of foreign money as well, but they poured twenty million most recently behind the groups funding the protests of Trump'ss DC crime crackdown.
And when Mark Zuckerberg wanted to purchase the 2024 or 2020 election, he spent $350 million to do that.
And where did he turn to?
Arabell Advisors.
Arabella is who ran the Center for Tech and Civil Life, the CTCL, where Zuckerberg famously gave those $350 million to turn out voters.
But really, they just focused that money in 26 blue counties and swing states.
They took over those counties' election systems, printed ballots, and here we are.
So the buck stops with Arabell Advisors.
It is the, I mean, it runs everything, all of these institutions.
And we have to go after them.
The next time I want to see Scott Bessant, who is now the acting director of the IRS, the most important thing he can do is announce an investigation into Arabell Advisors.
These nonprofit, that's how they operate.
They are not nonprofits.
They get the tax deductions on their way there, but they are meddling in every single institution, corporation, and also our government and the way that we live our lives every day.
So I think it is the most important thing we can keep our eyes on.
steve bannon
But the first thing we could do is the ability to donate their stock, right, on a tax-free basis, right, and then finance these things.
We should cut that out.
That would stop the rich from doing this.
Last thing before I let you go, I know you get a bounce.
Still, Zuckerberg and Gates, I mean, Gates gets two hours with the president.
The New York Times reporting he's got two hours with the president.
Gates and Zuckerberg are still getting how are they still getting this type of access when they've been on the other side of the football for so long?
How does that work?
caroline wren
Well, I do think Trump is getting concessions from them.
Bill Gates has been begging for this meeting.
They met, I believe they had dinner in late December at Maralaga before Trump had been inaugurated.
And then there was a story in April by the New York Times about how Bill Gates was desperately trying to get in and see the president.
He wouldn't.
He took the meeting yesterday, but what also came out yesterday.
was that Bill Gates was, he's one of the largest financial backers of Arabella Advisors, that he was pulling his $450 million out of Arabella Advisors.
So I would like to hope that it was actually the Trump administration that pressured them to do this and then said, fine, we'll take your meeting.
So that if that is the case, I don't know that that is the case, but if that is the case, then that's a big win for Trump.
And we all know Bill Gates went in and advocated for funding of vaccines all over the world and whatever crap that he always advocates for.
It doesn't mean Trump's going to do it, but Trump got him to pull his money out of Arabella, and that's the win in my book.
steve bannon
Caroline, where's your social media now that you're back from your long summer long audition for Below Decks?
Back from the Aegean or, you know, wherever I saw the Instagram wherever you guys were you're back you're back at work where do people go to keep up with your fights ma'am it is at Caroline Wren on Twitter get her through social and Instagram Caroline good to have you back thank you the Caroline Wren Season the institutions Dave Weigl Weigl's piece.
I will get to that a little bit later John Solomon.
I think Eduardo Bolsonaro also going to join us.
When we return, a fascinating piece actually a special I guess a special edition of the Washington Monthly you know a lot of these college guides to college sprung up I guess 20 or 30 years ago to help people kind of focus right and you had US News and World Report and then next thing you know you got everybody doing them a totally different way to look at it is the way the Washington Monthly came at it we're going to have the editor to walk us through it in a moment I want to thank the team at Birch Gold.
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There's been an incident out and it looks like in Minneapolis there's going to be a press conference at our press briefing at 11:30 Easter daylight time.
We're going to go live to that.
Trying to get Eduardo Bolsonaro update on his father in Brazil and also John Solomon about what's going on.
Some of these court cases, we may have to delay that till this afternoon or tomorrow because we're going to go live.
I want to introduce now Paul Glastris from Washington Monthly, the editor over there.
Paul, I always love when people try to do something totally outside the box and differently that kind of grabs you.
There's been a lot of these college guides, but you guys have done something totally different.
You've actually conceived, I call it a populist guide to college.
You've actually taken what's out there and looked at it through fresh eyes for quite frankly the the bottom 90 percent right of how they and the thing is quite fascinating.
Walk us through how you guys conceived it.
What is this college guide about and what does it tell us?
paul glastris
So this is the 20th anniversary.
Thanks for having me on, by the way.
20th anniversary of the Washington Monthly College Guide and Rankings.
This year we redid our methodology to put an even finer point on what we think college rankings, which we think are important, but the dozen of them that are out there, especially U.S. news, totally miss what's important about college rankings.
You know, our college rankings are about the value for average students, students from modest means, students who are poor, who are working class.
And they're also for the taxpayers.
You know, the average taxpayer spends about $1,700 a year on higher education because the government spends half a trillion dollars on higher education.
And they, you know, students and taxpayers want certain things from higher education.
We measure those things.
And what are those things?
It's number one, upward mobility for median income and below students, right?
The people who need entry into the middle class.
Number two, the research that drives human flourishing, economic growth.
And then three, the encouraging students to be active citizens, to vote, to serve their country in the military and AmeriCorps.
So those are the things we measure.
And that's very different from U.S. News and the other dozen imitators because what they're about is capturing the eyeballs of the upper middle, students from the upper middle class and wealthy families who have been taught since birth to strive to get into the most selective schools.
in order to stay in the upper middle class and the wealthy class.
And so their metrics all somehow surprised surprise, surprise, result in the same 20 or 30 mostly private or big flagship public universities in the top.
So you've got your Harvard, your Yale, your, you know, and so forth.
And in our ranking, it's quite different.
When you measure things the way we measure it for the average person and the average taxpayer, a lot of mostly unsung state schools and small liberal arts colleges share the top 30 with the elite.
And in fact, the highest ranking elite school.
Princeton is number five on our rankings behind three California State University campuses, including Fresno State number two.
And the number one school is probably a college 99% of your listeners and viewers have never heard of, and that's Berea College in Berea, Kentucky.
And it's such a fascinating school.
And there's all these hidden gems for people.
available at washingtonmonthly.com that they're just not going to find on other rankings.
steve bannon
It was amazing.
Mark, I want to go back through the methodology because you're right.
All the other 20 things have the same 30 or 40, 50 schools all ranked.
And people should know it's highly competitive among those guys because they want to go up.
Those rankings are intensely worked.
It's like the Forbes 400, right?
These guys work at nonstop because it's very important to be numbered.
Harvard wants to be above Stanford, wants to be above Princeton, and wants to be above Yale.
Walk me through.
I want to go back through the methodology.
How'd you guys think this through and how did you apply it and how did you get the information related to that?
paul glastris
Well, funny story, I used to work for U.S. news for 10 years.
So there.
their college ranking was paying my mortgage.
I didn't work on the ranking, but it was part of what we did.
And there was always within U.S. news personnel a kind of sense that something was rotten in Denmark.
So when I took over the Washington Monthly some years later, we decided to do some investigative pieces about the US news rankings.
And, you know, to understand our rankings, you got to understand U.S. news.
And they've all evolved over time.
But basically, what U.S. news and most of its competitors do is they measure colleges by how exclusive they are, number one, right?
How few people, you know, they get in, how many people they don't get in.
Number two, wealth.
how much spending per student, you know, and it used to be they would measure the donors who would give the money.
And number three, prestige, right?
Is this self-referential survey they do that asks other college leaders, what do you think of this college?
And it's all sort of, well, it's prestigious because people say it's prestigious.
So when you do it that way, you automatically learn.
We do the opposite, right?
We don't have any SAT requirements.
We're not looking at selectivity.
That doesn't get you anything in our rankings.
In fact, you know, our rankings wind up giving bonuses to students to schools that take in more kids on pell right on pell grants pell grants are the the the the the grants from the federal government that go to moderate and low income students the the more pell grants you take in as a percentage and the the better those students do, the higher you are on our rankings.
So it's just a very different way of looking at it.
And you get a different result.
steve bannon
You've gone, you started at a, you started at what, at University of Missouri and then went to Northwestern.
Talk to us about the, because I did the same thing, you know, and this is why I talk about the H-1B visas all the time, about the kids that grinded through the STEM programs and went to engineering schools and computers.
These guys were number one in their class or the top in the hard courses.
You know, I had a while that, you know, I kind of phoned it in, right?
And I went to Atlanta Grant University, started off before Georgetown and Harvard.
I worked my way up the food chain.
But you did also, and you find out when you go to these institutions, it's about the teachers.
It's about the people around it that want to learn.
I mean, and that's why I think it's so fascinating about your guide.
You actually lay it out that, hey, there's a whole world out here that you don't have to pay $100,000 a year if you really want an education.
Tell me about your journey.
paul glastris
Yeah, well, I was, you know, not the greatest student in the world in elementary and middle school.
And toward the end of high school, I finally kind of began to buckle down, but I didn't have great scores or anything.
So I went to where everybody in my subdivision or my suburb of St. Louis went to, which is, you know, a Missouri State School, University of Missouri.
Good, you know, it's the flagship.
And what I, and then I, you know, for a variety of reasons, transferred to Northwestern.
My brother was there, my best friend was there.
what I found was that the quality of the professors at Northwestern were excellent, but they were no more excellent than the quality of the professors at Mizzou.
We have a plethora of very smart people getting— And so, you know, these universities have their pick of brilliant minds.
And so the difference in the quality of the teaching is not so great.
And that kind of opened my mind to the idea that this hierarchy at U.S. News was.
US news was mullarky.
And so, and in our current issue, I mentioned Fresno State.
I don't know if you know about Fresno State.
Fresno State is in the heart of the Central Valley of California, right, in Fresno.
And they take in tornadoes.
It's the kind of school you might have gone to, Steve.
But a lot of their students come from very poor backgrounds.
And the president of the school himself came from a farm family.
And a lot of these students are dirt poor or modest income.
They don't charge too much money for the degree.
They graduate at higher rates than you would expect given their demographics.
They earn more than you would expect given their demographics.
And a lot of these kids, some of them anyway, go back to work.
They stay in the area.
They don't jet off to New York or whatever.
They stay there in the Central Valley for the most part.
And some of them go back to become managers of the agricultural firms where they used to pick crops.
Right?
That's what higher education at its best ought to be doing.
steve bannon
Hang around.
I want to hold you through the break.
paul glastris
Okay, cool.
steve bannon
Paul Glastris from The Washington Monthly.
And the reason is I've got a great story.
When I first saw this, and one of you guys showed it to us, when you had Fresno State so high, I've got a great Victor David Hansen story about Fresno State.
And the reason I think this Washington Monthly ranking is very important.
You guys ought to look into it.
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steve bannon
So Paul and Paul Glassers is with us from the Washington Monthly, this incredible new guide to colleges.
I recommend everyone, and he's going to tell you how to get there, but everybody ought to get into it today, particularly if you got kids thinking about college or if you're a someone that's going to end up paying or help paying your kids college, or if you're a taxpayer.
Kind of a buried lead there was at 1700 dollars a year.
So you got your skin in the game.
Paul, when I saw that you had Fresno State, I don't even know if Victor Davis Hansen remembers this, but the first time I became aware of him was I think in the late nineties.
I'm reading my copy of the Financial Times of London, which people know that I'm one of my favorite, if not the favorite, paper.
And they've got an op-ed about this guy I never heard of from Fresno State.
And he's talking about, because he's a classicist, that that's what he teaches at Fresno State.
He describes his students exactly like you just described them.
Because he lives up, he comes off a farming family up in the valley up there near Fresno State.
He talks about his students being these working-class Hispanic and working-class American kids and Hispanic Americans that worked on the farms, et cetera.
He's teaching Thucydides, the Peloponnesian War, he's teaching Herodotus, he's teaching all the classic Greeks and Romans, and they can't get enough of it.
And they're relating it to their experience in life and growing up.
And he just says, hey, you know, I've gone to some of the better schools in the country, but this is an open, you know, these folks are mesmerized by this.
They just need to be given access to this information.
And now he's at Stanford many years later coming off to Fresno State faculty.
So there's a lot there.
I mean, that's why Fresno State, the places like Fresno State are tremendous value for the dollar and if you get in there and you and you want an education and you and you meet the right people you can do just as well there as you can do in princeton and harvard and and yale and northwestern sir your your observations well first you know victor david hanson's first book i think was about the greek way of war and uh you know he he wrote quite uh specifically about
paul glastris
the efforts of different greek uh city states to just destroy each other's crops and he said that is almost impossible to do i know because i grew up on a farm so so you know that story rings true to me.
And I'm sure he found perfectly brilliant young people at Fresno State who probably didn't have the preparation from their communities and high schools to have read some of these classic texts before.
And for some of them, it was probably mind blowing.
For others, they're there at college just to get ahead, right?
They've got...
We rank 1400 plus colleges and universities.
There's a whole bunch at the bottom, right?
And there are all kinds of colleges down there.
that do very, very poorly.
Some of them are for-profits, some of them are art schools, some of them are religious schools, a lot of them are state schools.
It's not like this whole class of colleges is good or bad, but you can find great schools across the country and especially in certain states like California, like New York, like North Carolina, like Florida that have strong centralized systems of governance of their public universities and that have long decades old commitments,
political commitments to keeping costs down, tuition down for in-state modest and low-income students.
So there's a lot of states where that just isn't the case.
And if you go to college at public universities in those states, it's more costly.
steve bannon
Paul, where do people go to get access to the list, it's fascinating and everybody ought to take a look at this.
And then what is your social media?
paul glastris
Washingtonmonthly.com.
People should read it every day.
There's magazine quality writing each and every day at Washingtonmonthly.com.
And if you go there, we have a whole tab under the College Guide and you can read not only the rankings, our best colleges for your tuition and tax dollar ranking, which is our main one, but other rankings, best Hispanic serving institutions,
best colleges for research and so forth, best bank for the buck, and some great feature and investigative work in this new issue of the Washington Monthly by, you know, on a variety of topics.
I mentioned one about, you know, how certain states like Florida and California run their public university systems, but there's a lot of great journalism there too.
And my handle on both Twitter and Blue Sky is at Glasgow's GLAS TRIS.
steve bannon
Paul, thank you so much for coming on.
Thank you guys.
Thank the team over there for doing this guide, the populist guide to higher education.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
paul glastris
Thanks for having me on.
steve bannon
Fresno State.
I'm telling you.
Victor Davis Hansen laid it out 30 years ago.
I got to pull that article, op ed.
I think it's the first op ed he ever had in the Financial Times.
We're going to go to this press conference live.
We got John Solomon is joining us.
John, can you guess up the date?
The things you send me, the articles you're doing over Justin News literally blow my head up every night.
I'm so furious about this entire thing.
No, because it's just so, it's so in your grill, right?
Talk to me about the latest Comey Revelation, sir.
john solomon
Yeah, listen, the date said.
And the DAPE state, the weaponization state, it was running rampant and it had no impediments inside a government.
So right in the period of time when James Comey's FBI is investigating Hillary Clinton's classified email scandal, her use of a improper use of a private server to move classified secrets and do government business, he closed down that investigation.
Now he knows all the liabilities about it because he talked about it at a press conference.
And a few months later, he's working on a leak machine to go after Donald Trump and use the media to dirty up Donald Trump.
And his inner circle are using, I'm not making this up, private email to facilitate the leak.
And the investigators, after Comey's fired, discover this.
And they're like, wait a second, this chief of staff took a piece of information from the FBI system, moved it to the private email so he could facilitate an unauthorized leak to the media.
They try to investigate it, and they can't get the U.S. Attorney's Office.
Under Donald Trump, nonetheless, under Jeff Sessions, under Bill Barr, under Rod Rosenstein, they can't even get permission to obtain the records from that email account and investigate it thoroughly.
And like all the other known crimes and known abuses in government, it gets shut down without a penalty.
But of all the people to be having people around him using private email to cover government business or to facilitate leaks.
James Comey should have been the last.
And there he is with his team doing the very thing that he was condemning at a podium a few months earlier when he gave the magic pass to Hillary Clinton.
So that's the latest revelation.
Hold it.
steve bannon
Hang it.
My head's off for two things.
john solomon
Okay.
steve bannon
Let's bifurcate it.
Number one.
No, no, no, number one.
Because this was a thing over the years.
And this was this huge thing that they're blaming.
You know, this, this, if you go back to the summer sixteen.
So they had this set up, and then he kind of waved it off the end.
But they knew what she did.
There's no doubt in your mind they knew what she did was wrong.
Let's forget whether she's prosecuted.
They knew what she did was wrong, right?
No question about it?
john solomon
Yeah.
Comey said it himself.
He said it, just I'm not going to prosecute it.
steve bannon
And these are the guys that investigated.
So shortly thereafter, knowing it was wrong, knowing they were doing a formal investigation of what was a crime or potentially a crime, they then go, and they're still running the most revered law enforcement institution institution in the world.
They go and do the exact same thing.
Is that what you're telling me?
john solomon
100%.
That's what these these documents show.
This is what Cash Patel found and made public and that Pam Bondi declassified and now sits out there.
So it's shocking.
And it also reminds us how much the Jeff Sessions Bill Bar Justice Department led us down.
These are all things we could have known before the 2020 election.
And instead, they were buried in a drawer until Cash Patel and Pam Bondi dug them out.
steve bannon
Okay, but hang on, hang on.
That gets to my thing because this you talk about the rot of the institutions.
This is the leadership of the FBI.
unidentified
They went there.
steve bannon
They knew it was wrong.
They knew it was potentially criminal.
There's this whole controversy about why they waved off.
They then set up the exact same thing.
This shows you the rot in these institutions.
But even I think, almost as bad.
as then the guys that come in that are supposed to be the guys that reform the place.
john solomon
The White House.
steve bannon
They take a look at this information.
And, and, and, hold on.
Not only do they not pursue it, they never ran it up the chain of command so anyone would know what was going on.
This was all, as you said, buried until Cash kind of found them in the boxes in, in, in, in, in the, in the, in the secure, uh, closet that no one should go into.
Is that what happened here?
Not only did they not review it, not investigate, but they never told anyone of the chain of command or over the White House of what they had.
Is that, you know, the other part of the story?
john solomon
I think it's probably true that Jeff Sessions or a Bill Barr or the Deputy Attorney General or certainly the Acting Deputy Attorney General Dana Bonti definitely knew.
But it does never get to the White House.
I talked to people at the White House.
They were shocked to see the story this morning.
Like, oh my God, you got it.
You can't make this up.
Yeah, that's what it is.
You bury it.
And that culture is why Joe Biden felt no danger in using a private email to do all his pseudonym emails for government business.
Everybody knew no one would get punished.
So they did it.
They just flaunted the law.
And I wonder how many people in the last four years under Biden's second administration were doing the same thing.
Because there's never been a penalty for it.
So why not do it?
steve bannon
John, we got a minute or two.
Can you just walk us through now all this?
Where you know better than anybody, directionally, where are these investigations heading and kind of the timing of these things?
john solomon
Yeah, there's a lot of grand jury activity.
None of it looks like the big case yet.
It looks like early ground gathering of documents and different aspects of it.
At some point, I think Pam Bondi makes a decision to send it to Florida.
Two very important things, the two big stories we broke last week.
The knowledge now that James Comey authorized a leak according to his own lawyer.
He authorized a classified leak.
And according to Adam Schiff's own Democratic House Intelligence Committee staffer, he authorized a classified leak.
Those two cases have a 10-year statute.
They don't even require a conspiracy case to be made.
So those are early ones for us to see.
Are they going to do it?
They just raided John Bolton's house.
That's outside five years of these alleged offenses.
Those also are signaling that maybe they're going to do on take on some of these classified leaks as a beginning strategy while they build a larger conspiracy case.
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw our first charges in the fall if Pambani says, if we go to Christmas and there are no charges, I think all of our skepticism is going to be pretty high.
steve bannon
Real quick, I'm hearing that it's not the FBI in the investigation.
Do you think the FBI in the investigation part that the gating event here, is there just not enough senior prosecutor's hands that can get over this, that the limitation is actually the number of prosecutors we have?
Are you hearing the same thing?
john solomon
Yeah, I do.
I think that's a big part of it.
They are starting to ramp up.
It would be helpful if the Senate did its job and got more of them through.
But I think, listen, Pam Bonnie has to make a decision.
Do we do the Grand Conspiracy case or not?
Are we going to do it and where are we going to do it?
And when that decision is made, that's when you're going to know that rubber's hit the road.
And I, you know, she seems to be moving in that direction.
And the right way to do this is to make sure you've got all the evidence and then look at the evidence and say, that's a conspiracy.
Let's go after it.
So it seems like that works underway.
I think Cash and Pam Bondi are working well together right now.
And there's, you know, Cash is turning up unbelievable stuff.
So is Tulsi.
And so the evidence is now there.
Let's see if the Justice Department is different this time.
But we want Pam Bondi not to be Bill Barr.
unidentified
Dude, this story this morning is like, it's institutionally.
steve bannon
I don't know if anybody, I'm serious.
I don't know if anybody can change it.
So Solomon, you're the best.
Where do people go for all the breaking news on all these investigations you're putting up?
Where do folks get your content?
john solomon
Yeah, real simple.
Justin News dot com.
Jay Solomon reports on social media.
And I'm lucky enough to follow you every day on Real America's Voice, 6 o'clock.
Just the news, no noise with my amazing colleague Amanda Head.
steve bannon
And I might add that John Solomon also is another one that's worked the entire month of August.
Nobody took a day off here.
There's so much going on.
I've never seen anything like it.
john solomon
Too much of a country to save.
steve bannon
Thank you so much.
john solomon
Take care.
Thanks, John.
steve bannon
Too, too, too important.
Incredible.
The press conference has not started as of yet, so we'll come back and have a debug, hopefully.
Then we'll go right to Minneapolis for the press conference.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
steve bannon
I'm going to come back and hit that guide again tomorrow.
It is the populist guide for college.
There's a lot there, particularly if you're of modest means and you're questioning, even maybe questioning, hey, the value of college, et cetera.
There's a lot there in that Washington Monthly.
So get it, read it, and I'll have more on that.
And school like Fresno State is a perfect example of a lot of value out there, a lot of good people, and you can really make a go of it.
So it's quite totally different than all these other guides.
Steve Stern, Steve.
What Heather Honey has now just been named, I guess, the head of election integrity over at, and we'll do more on this later in the week of Heather, because the left is melting down that they have somebody really from the Steve Stern Academy of Hardcore Election Integrity that's now running the entire system.
You've got another one of these great panels or shows today.
Tell us a little bit about it because, hey, no offense, an alumni of your of your of your of your broadcast is now officially the most senior person in the United States government about election integrity, sir.
steve stern
Well, this is going to be a great event today.
It's going to be at 2 o'clock Eastern time.
My email's on the bottom.
If you'd like to come on, go to S. Stern 10504gmail.com we have some of the top people coming on today captain seth keshel who finally got recognized by president trump is going to give all the data on arizona this is an arizona call today with about five people we're going to have the head of the republican party gina swaboda going to come on she's going to talk about what's going on there katherine engelbrett will be on from chew to vote Erson Russell from California, we've been trying to get him on for six months.
He's finally coming on.
Peter Tikton's going to be doing this from the airport.
He's going to be talking about Tina.
And, you know, we're trying to get her out of jail.
We're also going to have Liz Harris on.
We're going to have Daniel Richards from New Hampshire, Marissa Hamilton, Joe Hopt is going to be talking about what's going on in Orange County.
General Flynn is going to give us a big event that he's going to be doing.
Michelle Swinnick is going to be talking about all the fraud in Arizona and Ray Michaels, yournews dot com.
So we'll be on from 2 o'clock Eastern time.
It'll be on about 100 podcasters.
We expect between 4 and 8 million people.
This is going fantastic and they're finally recognizing that everybody at the Republican Party that all our people who they didn't use before, they're now using.
And that's why Heather got invited in because she's a hard-working person.
steve bannon
This is the important thing about Heather and the team up in Pennsylvania that worked so hard on this.
And last night, their heads are blown up.
Folks, you should know, this is like an All-Star team today, but every week or every couple of weeks.
Steve has the additional ads to the All-Star team all over the country.
People are working like crazy on this.
And this is what's going to ensure our victories going forward.
If you don't have this, you're going to get back to stealing it.
And so a lot of these people are behind the scenes, but there's stuff going on every day.
We're going to stream it as we always do every couple of weeks when Steve gets this group together to make sure you get the access to it.
But you'll be shocked at how much work's going on and how much work's still to be done.
That's why I think President Trump is now recognizing this at the highest level.
And I think that she is quite symbolic of all the work that people are doing state by state basis.
I want to give a special hat tip to those folks in Pennsylvania that have just hammered, hammered, hammered this.
Because you know folks, in 2020, the mail and ballots, it was Pennsylvania that tipped this entire thing in the most egregious of them all.
So I want to give Heather and the entire team, everybody, Steve, your guys.
Steve, where do people go once again to get to this?
It'll be starting at 2 o'clock.
Grace and Mo will have it up on all.
all our platforms on War Room, but where do folks go and where do folks track you down personally?
steve stern
So we got Stern American Rumble.
Go to Stern American.
And I got to tell you something and you're going to hopefully be a part of it.
We're going to be doing something even bigger.
We're going to be doing a precinct strategy zoom with one person from every state on September 30.
This is going to be huge.
We're going to hopefully get you on for ten minutes because you are the guy who started this with Dan Schultz.
He'll be talking for 15 minutes.
We have some sensational people coming on.
So if you go to Stern American Rumble, we'll be there live today at 2 o'clock or you can go to Stern 1054 gmail dot com.
As soon as I get off and I get these links, I will send them to you.
You can see how beautiful this is.
My team has done a fantastic job.
I just got back from Spain where God was with me.
I had fall hit my head and I got a clearance today, thank God.
And thank you for everybody who was texting me and emailing me, wishing me all the best.
So thank you very much for having me on today.
Action, action, action.
You know, I'm always there for you and you're always there for me.
steve bannon
If I want to get one of those great shirts like you're wearing the flag shirts, where do people go?
steve stern
Go to WWW dot theflagshirt dot com.
We are doing super phenomenal.
We're now on TikTok.
We're everywhere.
I appreciate you letting everybody know about it.
Things are fantastic.
You know, I got two weeks of rest on the ship and it was fantastic and now I'm going full gone and we've got everybody coming on today.
They're going to do a wonderful job.
You're going to get terrific information.
So between election integrity, precinct strategy, we're going to help President Trump and we're going to get the next elections.
We're going to do terrific.
Tikton is going to be talking about very soon about an EO that he and a bunch of people are working on where we're going to have one day voting, no machines, no paper ballots.
Everything is going to be fantastic.
I think this is going to really help us on our next election.
steve bannon
And you get the update on Tina Peters, who is a saint and a martyr.
She's a martyr for our cause.
See what they've done to that, a gold star mother, with everything she sacrificed for this nation, what they've done to her.
She will be legendary.
She will pass down in American history as one of the great patriots of our era.
It's amazing.
One in a moment.
Steve Stewart, thank you so much.
steve stern
I appreciate it.
We have to get people to step up.
We can't be sleeping.
Join Precinct Strategy, join Election Security.
Let's get to work.
steve bannon
Yep.
And the Precinct Strategy, we got to, I know people, they're getting hammered by the State Republican GOP.
Thank you very much, Steve Stern.
Okay, the press conference is going to start.
Let's go ahead and jump to it.
jacob frey
We'll be wrapping our arms around these families, giving them every ounce that we can muster.
These were Minneapolis families.
These were American families.
And the amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary.
And don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.
These kids were that should be learning with their friends.
They should be playing on the playground.
They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence and their parents should have the same kind of assurance.
These are the sort of basic assurances that every family should have.
Every step of the day, regardless of where they are in our country.
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I...
jacob frey
I'm so deeply saddened and I'm so sorry to the families that I know are suffering right now.
My ask is to everyone, stand by them.
Love them.
These families have forever been changed and we've all been changed with them.
We need to do everything possible to support them through this time.
We have a family resource center that has been set up.
I'm grateful for all of the law enforcement agencies from a number of different jurisdictions and all the different departmental support that we've received.
They're going to be working tirelessly.
There's also a family resource center that is being set up as we speak to make sure that we're there for everybody.
Again, to the families that are suffering, to those that have experienced loss, I'm so deeply sorry.
We're going to be with you every step of the way.
We love you.
This kind of act of evil should never happen, and it happens far too often.
The chief will provide additional details.
brian ohara
My name is Brian O'Hara, B-R-I-A-N, O-A-H-AR-A.
I am the Minneapolis Police Chief.
Earlier today, just before 8.30 a.m., our city experienced an unthinkable tragedy.
Minneapolis police officers responded to a report of a shooting at a mass that was happening at the Annunciation.
Roman Catholic Church on the block behind me.
This worship service was marking the first week of school for children that are attending the Annunciation Catholic School.
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