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Episode 4726: U.S. Halts Visas For Commercial Truckers; Will Russians Agree To Peace Deal
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danielle chaffin
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gord magill
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sean hannity
Part 2, Gavin Newsome sanctuary policies.
unidentified
Now, Donald Trump's first administration denied him commercial driving privileges in the country, but then Joe Biden's administration gave it to him.
In other words, more blood on many Democrats' hands as far as I am concerned.
Now, because of Democrats' obsession, aiding and abetting the lawbreaking, those illegals, those people that enter our country, don't respect our laws, border, and sovereignty, even institutionalizing it in states that are sanctuary, that offer those protections like California.
Because without California, without Joe Biden's insane policies, three Americans in Florida would not have been in this preventable crash.
sean hannity
But the Trump administration, they are now taking action to secure our roads.
unidentified
Just moments ago, about an hour ago, Secretary of State Marco Rubio made the following announcement.
sean hannity
Quote, he said, effective immediately, we are pausing all issuance of worker visas for commercial truck drivers.
steve bannon
This is the final scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Ugh's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Friday, 22 August, Year of the Lord 2025.
steve bannon
Thank you so much for sticking around for the second hour of the morning edition of the war room.
unidentified
This afternoon, also going to have from 5 to 7, the afternoon, early evening edition.
It'll be on fire.
So much going on today.
We're absolutely packed.
We've had to kind of re-jigger the show a little bit because the raid on Bolton's house.
The great Jack Pesovic, a naval intelligence officer, former naval intelligence officer, is going to join us on this because the Bolton raid is going to have massive implications to what's going on now because he's one of the biggest cheerleaders.
steve bannon
He's the neocons, neocon.
unidentified
Also, I'll play, hopefully I'll play the clip where we got it later.
Carl Rove, and I kid you not, one of the architects and particularly the information war architects of the Iraq war, right, actually went on Fox and in the Wall Street Journal and said, and I told you this was going to happen, said if President Trump doesn't work and get a deal that's suitable to Zelensky and this crowd and the European elites, this will be his Afghanistan, right?
This is not Trump's war whatsoever.
And the Europeans have told us they're not prepared to do any serious commitments on the security guarantees, which this audience has been months ahead of.
If anybody else, because we've talked about it, not prepared to do any what we call line of contact security guarantees, which is the meaningful guarantees.
steve bannon
They want the United States to do it.
unidentified
So the whole Ukraine thing, President Trump said, hey, look, if Zelensky gets a meeting with Putin, that's great.
I'm not going to be part of the bylaw.
I'm not going to set it up.
steve bannon
The reason is he saw the Europeans that got on the plane and they fell apart.
unidentified
Nothing serious.
So we're going to break all that down in a moment.
When I talk about a maximalist strategy, I mean, in every aspect, we have to understand, this is about the, this gets to the recess and the recess appointments.
steve bannon
We are burning daylight.
unidentified
We only have so much time, and we're against the concentration of industrial power, the concentration of financial power, the concentration of technological power, right, to try to sort this mess out and get this country back on its footing of being America first.
That means, like on this redistricting, which this audience, you drove the victory in Texas when nobody would talk about it, and Abbott didn't want to do it, and Patrick didn't want to do it, and Speaker Burrow didn't want to do it.
And I totally respect, I know we followed the president's true socials on this one.
He's trying to be, you know, magnanimous to down to Texas, but his true social on burrow, right, is not the perspective of the war room.
That guy is a sad sack and didn't want to do anything.
And no Democrats have really been punished down there.
Oh, they're talking about some $9,000 penalty.
steve bannon
We have to have a maximalist strategy everywhere.
unidentified
What do I mean by that?
steve bannon
Well, there's the redistricting wars.
unidentified
If we're going to get to 100 seats, let's get on with it.
Let's get to 100 seats.
We've gotten five right now.
steve bannon
There's another five in Texas, another 10 around the country that gets us 20.
Let's go for it.
unidentified
I want all 20.
And I want to defeat Newsom in California.
We got to get on that because the 2028 race has started and Newsom's running for president.
And by the way, if he wins in November, he's going to be the Democratic candidate.
steve bannon
Write that down.
unidentified
It's not going to be Pritzkin.
steve bannon
You saw what Pritzker did with this redistricting for the two weeks.
unidentified
It's a sad sack.
steve bannon
Not going to happen.
unidentified
I don't care if he's got $5 billion put into it.
None of those governors.
It's going to be Newsome.
steve bannon
So just get that reality.
unidentified
Focus on it.
Let's defeat this guy.
Also, across the board in policies, this is why it's happening in Washington, D.C., is a template for the rest of the nation.
steve bannon
Boom.
unidentified
Let's do it in Los Angeles.
steve bannon
Let's do it in Chicago.
unidentified
Let's do it in New York.
What's happening right now with that amphibious group in the 4,000 Marines and other troops and sailors have been assigned to Southcom right now going to the Caribbean.
The great Alex Jones yesterday said, broke some news: hey, they're getting ready to have military interdictions, kinetic interdictions against the cartels in Mexico and maybe Central America.
Let's get on with it.
steve bannon
That's America first.
unidentified
That's the hemisphere we want to clear up.
The 55 million visas, we got to go through.
We're going to dump half of those visa holders are to have their visas pulled like tomorrow and told they got 30 days to get out of the country.
steve bannon
Get out.
unidentified
You wouldn't have an affordability problem.
You just saw on the truckers, and I want to bring in the folks that brought this to our attention so the Warren Posse could get on with it.
Court McGill, Shannon Everett, and we have Daniel Chafin, who is a logistics expert.
Court, I want to start with you.
Then I'll go to Shannon.
Talk to me about what happened the other day with this case, this event that finally brought to the nation's attention what you guys have been arguing for a while about these commercial driver licenses that are given to particularly Mexican citizens, Mexican nationals that can't speak the English, can't speak English, can't read English, are not going to abide by any rule.
steve bannon
You scared the hell out of people when you came on a month or so ago, a couple of months ago, and alerted the American citizens to what this problem was.
unidentified
And now you've had guys killing people on highways as you guys predicted it was going to happen unless it got cleaned up.
So walk me through the case of what exactly happened here.
So on Tuesday, August 12th, we saw a pretty serious crash on the Florida Turnpike near Fort Pierce.
A gentleman who had came into the United States illegally by the name of Harjinder Singh, behind the wheel of this semi, as you see in the clip you're playing, attempted to execute an illegal U-turn across the Florida Turnpike.
gord magill
And in doing so, he pulled right in front of three people in a minivan driving 70 miles an hour who were instantly killed.
unidentified
The problem with this incident is this isn't the only one.
There have been a string of these crashes and collisions involving insourced labor on American highways.
Back in June, we saw in Terrell, Texas, a gentleman from Cuba working for one of these dodgy chameleon carriers hauling a load for the United States Postal Service, fell asleep at the wheel because the company he worked for backdoored into his electronic logging device, fudged his hours, and allowed him to drive until he couldn't drive anymore.
And he wiped out most of an entire family in Texas.
Then we had another one in Austin, Texas in March.
This is repeated.
gord magill
It's daily.
unidentified
A couple of days after the crash in Florida, we had six or seven semis get in an accident on the same stretch of Interstate 70 in Illinois.
gord magill
These are daily occurrences.
A friend of mine who's a trucker, he just left Vermont the other day called me and said he keeps getting detoured from all these crashes.
unidentified
And most of the time, we're finding it's drivers who've been insourced here from other countries and been given fraudulent or questionable CDLs, many of which are downstream of this program that Joe Biden started in 2021 under his trucking task force,
where instead of listening to industry experts tell him, hey, we need to get trucks moving, we need to fix the detention problem, we need to pay drivers more and improve the material conditions of American truckers' jobs, they completely ignored all of that expert advice.
And downstream of that task force, we have seen at least, at very least, half a million migrants, refugees, and illegals issued CDLs by about 10 states, as identified by my colleague Shannon Everett here at American Truckers United.
And America's highways are flooded with people who often don't speak English, have got very little training, very little vetting, and clearly don't know what they're doing because they keep getting in these accidents all the time.
It's economic warfare against America's well-trained truckers.
Gord, before I go to Shannon, hang on for a second.
The guy did an illegal on the Florida freeway, that huge interstate.
He tried to do a U-turn, an illegal U-turn in the middle of that.
And the folks in the minivan ran into him.
That's correct.
Unbelievable.
Gordon McGill, hang on for one second.
We'll go to Shannon.
steve bannon
Shannon, please explain to this audience what the logic is of why in the United States of America we need 500,000 aliens given a commercial driver's license to compete against American drivers.
What is the logic of that, sir?
shannon everett
Well, it's an irresponsible logic that's been parroted by the lobbyist group in Washington, D.C.
unidentified
And so it's not necessary.
You know, there's been this narrative that's been that's been pushed out into the industry that says that we have a driver shortage.
And it's always continuously seems to be the same number of 80,000 drivers.
When we first started bringing awareness to this issue, we found very quickly that we had over 6 million CDLs as reported by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration's website online.
But when we made that statement, when we made that claim, it's like, well, that number's bad.
That data is bad.
Well, if that data is the only public source of data that's available for everyone to use to make the claims on how many CDL drivers we have in the United States, how can you also tell us that there's a shortage?
shannon everett
If we don't have the data, how can you have a number that tells us how many drivers we don't have?
unidentified
The answer is there is no shortage.
shannon everett
If there was a shortage, they wouldn't just be pulling drivers from third world countries.
unidentified
They would be pulling drivers from everywhere they could possibly recruit them from.
But what we've identified is that the 10 states that are responsible for flooding our highways with all of these unvetted, untrained, and unqualified drivers are only insourcing drivers from third world countries.
Countries like Serbia, countries like Ethiopia, countries like India, Ecuador, Honduras.
These are all places where the workers from those countries have third world living standards.
They're comfortable receiving third world living wages.
And so they're able to come in here and displace American workers when they don't have to be paid a prevailing wage, when they don't have to pay any federal income taxes.
They don't have to pay any state income taxes.
They don't have to receive any health care benefits.
And that's because the majority of all of these workers that they've brought in and issued these CDLs are not here on proper work visas.
shannon everett
They're here on, and they're abusing these B1 visitor visas.
unidentified
They're abusing these EAD cards, these employment authorization documents.
And they're being issued an unusual new phenomenon, what everyone now knows to be this non-domiciled CDL.
And so prior to the Biden administration issuing new guidance and saying that these rogue states could issue non-domiciled CDLs, our trucking industry was not experiencing this phenomenon.
And so this is completely new.
And, you know, I think it's a blessing that God is using Steve Bannon and the war room policy, that God's using Secretary Marco Rubio and Secretary Duffy, because there are people all across this country who are brokenhearted.
They're broken spirited because either their families have been killed and they don't really understand the circumstances of how that was possible.
Or you also have families who have lost generations of wealth as the companies that they own and operate have been subsidizing losses for the last three to four years as they try to compete with this new ecosystem of drivers that we've never had to compete with before.
Hang on for one second.
We're going to hold you guys through the break.
Jack Pesova is also going to just won't hold you through the break because you have economic warfare against the backbone of this country, and that's the truck drivers, right?
And truck drivers is also a generational thing.
It goes down.
There are many, many families that pass this down generation to generation, just like my family was a phone company family, right?
Or part of the family of firemen.
Get folks in these industries, right?
And they pass it down to their kids.
They pass it down to their grandkids.
steve bannon
Economic warfare plus a clear and present danger to American families on American highways.
unidentified
How can that possibly be?
The forces of industry concentration are at the center of this.
steve bannon
This just didn't happen.
unidentified
This is what the lobbyists are arguing.
Just like they argue in Silicon Valley, the thing they hate most, this is why you get all these student visas.
They don't want American citizens to have these jobs.
They don't want it.
steve bannon
They either want to automate it with artificial intelligence or want to get a foreign worker in here that'll work for one-third the wage in horrific conditions.
unidentified
That is why our fight is against the concentration of economic power.
steve bannon
That's why you're a populist.
unidentified
That's why you're economic nationalists.
These globalists, right, and these neocon neoliberals.
And we're seeing that today from Jackson Hole with Powell and the central banks all the way to the raid on John Bolton's house in suburban Maryland.
Short commercial break, return to the war room, and Americans' truckers.
Next.
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Okay, Jack Pesovic's going to join me in a moment.
steve bannon
We're going to get to this developments in Ukraine.
unidentified
Everything President Trump did remember its bad opportunity costs all unraveled.
steve bannon
Why?
unidentified
Because the European elites are gutless.
They want the United States to bail them out one more time.
We did it in World War I.
We did it in World War II.
steve bannon
We did it in the Cold War.
unidentified
They want a fourth time.
steve bannon
It's not going to happen.
unidentified
We'll get all to that in a moment and tie it back to the John Bolton situation.
I want to go back to the truck.
Gord, Miguel, explain to me how many, because you have economic warfare against the backbone of this country, which are the truckers, right?
But you also have putting all of American society in jeopardy.
How many because the thing's so, what trucker would do a U-turn in the middle of a freeway unless you didn't know where the hell you were, couldn't understand the language, didn't know anything about the rules of the road?
How many American citizens, sir, do you think have been killed by these alien, these alien truckers, which you guys are estimating are 500,000 in the United States?
How many people, how many citizens have been killed by these people?
Well, it's hard to nail that down because the statistics aren't exactly counted based on what their work authorization is or where they come from.
gord magill
You sort of have to infer it.
That said, the Wall Street Journal and CBS have done separate investigations into these sort of scummy carriers who are the main choice of Amazon.
When you see an Amazon trailer going down the road, 99% of the time, it's not an Amazon truck pulling it.
unidentified
It's a subcontractor.
gord magill
And Amazon Relay uses these small companies who are typically also owned by in-source labor, like recent arrivals who figure out the scams and then bring their co-ethnic homeboys.
unidentified
And in those two investigations, they found that 150 people had been involved and died from collisions involving these contractors to Amazon.
gord magill
My estimate is that the number of people killed in the United States by in-source labor, given questionable CDLs, has got to be in the minimum of four figures.
unidentified
Wow.
Four figures.
Good Lord.
steve bannon
So hang over a thousand.
So hang on, hang on for a second.
unidentified
Danielle Chafin, you're a logistics specialist when it comes to trucking, tied in the logistics system.
You're also, I think, third generation.
steve bannon
Your grandfather was a trucker.
unidentified
Your father's a trucker.
I don't understand.
steve bannon
When I look at your videos or look at the things that you put up at this sophistication of this logistics system and how the trucker is the tip of the spear of that, how can people who don't understand English, can't read English, the 500,000 people can't be adding to that value chain?
unidentified
Are they just employed by these trucking?
steve bannon
Because you've got major lobbyists in the trucking industry that are pushing for this.
unidentified
Why are they pushing for this when it's such a complicated, it's actually a complicated profession that you've got to be tied into a very sophisticated database and logistics system, ma'am?
I certainly think that the push of this truck driver shortage narrative that we've had since 1987 and really pushed for it around 2015, 2016, and it is perpetual.
It's never-ending driver shortage, 80,000 forever.
danielle chaffin
I don't know.
It's a magical number.
unidentified
We push that.
And then the government is subsidizing the drivers to go to those CDL schools.
So they're going to the CDL schools for free.
Someone's getting paid for that.
danielle chaffin
The American taxpayers are paying into the chaos that we're trying to stop.
unidentified
And there are.
Hold, hang on.
Are you saying that?
Hold on.
Are the foreign, hang on?
Are the foreign, you're saying the foreign drivers of these bigger companies are recruiting actually go to the commercial driver license school to get the license that's underwritten by American taxpayers?
I don't think the issue that we're seeing right now is with the mega carriers.
I don't think it's the big ones.
danielle chaffin
Have we had issues with that in the past?
unidentified
Yes.
What we're seeing right now, it's not the mega carriers.
It is the sketchy schools.
There are refugee programs.
They're all over the internet.
danielle chaffin
Flyers stating that they will help you pay for your CDL school.
unidentified
They will help you get small business loans to pay for the truck, to get your authority, and to get out on the road.
danielle chaffin
There are 2 million trucking companies in the United States.
When I go through that data set, the names of the trucking companies, I'll post some more later on X today.
unidentified
The names in there, again, you have to infer.
We don't know the facts, whether they're illegal or not.
It is absurd.
How do you recommend?
Because you know this, I'm going to go to Shannon in a second, because this is about action.
Our show is followed by activists.
And when the guys first came on, the first time that people's heads blew up, they were on the phones.
They were sending text messages.
What is your recommendation of how we sort this mess out?
steve bannon
I mean, it's got to stop.
unidentified
We've killed too many American citizens.
We've jeopardized too many families.
We're taking also the backbone of the country, the trucking industry, particularly generational truckers that pass it down generation to generation.
We're destroying their livelihood.
So what is your recommendation?
If we want to have a thing that we want to have zero commercial driver's license issued to foreign nationals, right, in this country, how do we stop it?
Danielle.
For me.
We ban non-domiciled CDLs.
We restrict foreign CDLs.
And we go ahead, Steve.
No, go ahead.
How do we do it?
We automatically ban all non-domicile CDLs that have been issued.
shannon everett
We revoke them.
unidentified
We restrict the foreign CDLs from operating inside the United States.
And I argue that we take away any understanding of immunity that is currently being provided to brokers and shippers for these accidents.
And so right now there's a preemption problem where brokers and shippers feel like they're not responsible for the accidents that have taken countless Americans' lives when they have decided to use these trucking companies who are employing non-citizen truck drivers on these suspect credentials.
And so we need to pull that back.
And if we will hold the profiteers accountable, we will quickly get to the bottom of this.
Well, Hank, when you say non-domicile, explain that so I understand it.
What do you mean by that?
So the license that is being issued to everyone that's not a citizen of the United States who is here on an employment authorization document or some kind of a temporary work visa or visitor visa is typically a non-domiciled CDL.
And so it's a specific group of drivers that we're talking about.
And what do you mean by immunity?
What are you talking about?
Who's got immunity?
steve bannon
You're saying immunity from these accidents?
unidentified
Who gives these, what's immunity in this situation?
Who grants it?
So the states have immunity from these accidents for being sued because of anything that they've done wrong when it comes to issuing the licenses.
Or I can give you an example how the state has an immunity in a crash that we had about three or four years ago when they left a truck in the middle of the road without any warning signs or any flashers on it.
And our truck hit it.
shannon everett
We were unable to sue the state because the state had immunity.
unidentified
And so a lot of times in these, like in the situation with California, it should be, it should, the injured individuals in the accident should be able to sue the state of California if they illegally if they illegally issued this commercial driver's license.
And so we want to, we want the states to be held responsible, but also the brokers.
So if there's an accident by a brokerage company and they give a load to a motor carrier, they claim immunity.
They claim preemption.
shannon everett
There's actually a Supreme Court ruling that's coming up soon where brokers are trying to say that they're not responsible for an accident when they hire a motor carrier and that motor carrier uses an illegal alien truck driver.
unidentified
And so this Supreme Court is going to have a huge influence on the trucking industry.
Yeah, it's on the docket for this upcoming court.
Gord, where do people go?
Because the audience now wants to get on top of this thing.
It's not simply that we want to freeze on anymore.
We've got to roll them all back, right?
So we'll look to you guys for the appropriate guidance at the appropriate time.
steve bannon
But Gord, where do people go for your social media and to find out more about what you're working on?
unidentified
Absolutely.
Thank you for having us, Steve.
You can find me on Twitter at Gord McGill, G-O-R-D-M-A-G-I-L-L.
I write often at theautonomistruckersubstock.com, where we discuss these issues.
And I'm writing a book right now on this very topic on the war on North American truck drivers.
gord magill
It's called End of the Road, Inside the War on Truckers.
unidentified
It's publishing in March of 2026, and it's going to cover all of this and have a full slate of recommendations for our policymakers to clean this up.
Amen, brother.
steve bannon
Love it.
unidentified
Shannon, where do people go to get Truckers United?
On all the social media.
Our tag is the same.
It's at ATU Truckers.
shannon everett
So please follow us on Twitter, on Facebook, on LinkedIn, TikTok.
unidentified
We're on all the social medias.
And then you can go to our website at www.americantruckers.com and register for free.
Awesome.
It's unbelievable.
Danielle, where do people go?
I think you got a podcast, your writings, your social media.
Where do people go?
Yeah, all of my social media handles I'm most active on X.
It's at maybe Danielle with three E's at the end.
Okay, perfect.
We'll get them all up.
I want to thank you guys.
And we're now committed to this fight like before.
steve bannon
We got to stop this.
unidentified
Safety of the American citizen, plus it's economic warfare against truckers, and it's got to stop.
steve bannon
Thank you all for coming into the war this morning.
unidentified
We're going to get on top of this one.
steve bannon
I want to thank Secretary Rubio, Marco Rubio.
unidentified
I want to thank Sean Duffy, doing a great job over as Secretary of Transportation for getting on this.
Jack Basovic is next up.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Basobic's got a lot to say.
Remember, Jack Vesobic, a former naval intelligence officer, this is going to be far deeper and uglier, I believe, than just the book, The Room Where It Happened.
steve bannon
That's what initiated this investigation of John Bolton.
unidentified
But I think John Bolton's dirty on many levels.
Also, the geopolitical reality of what's happened in the last 96 hours.
steve bannon
The European elites tried to dump on President Trump to solve all of their problems, right?
unidentified
As they always try to do with the United States of America.
But finally, we've had a leader in the United States that say, I don't know.
Don't know if that's going to happen.
Short commercial break.
Jack Vosovic on the other side.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Okay, the great Jack Vosovic.
steve bannon
So Basovic, there was a dawn raid on John Bolton's house, but there's much more deeper going on.
unidentified
Let's start with the Ukraine situation.
This was a Jack Pesovic called shot.
You actually were in Alaska with the president for the Putin meeting.
steve bannon
You were also, you took the flight back there back.
unidentified
You saw the president work the phones the entire time.
You were there all day for the leaders of Europe coming over.
We're also, I believe, the only person in all media that brought up the fact that the Poles, who I would argue probably our greatest ally over there now, said, hey, thanks, but no thanks, Mr. President, because I know the Europeans are going to try to roll you.
What's the current status of Ukraine situation, sir?
Well, Steve, and we saw this really being brought up, and I raised this to the attention of the White House press briefing a couple of days ago, where I said, you know, this sounds great.
Obviously, the president's done the yeoman's work here, putting his shoulder to the wheel in terms of being able to get this peace deal together.
But at the same time, there are real questions about what are the elaborations on these security guarantees?
What does Article 5 like mean?
And most importantly, will the Russians agree to any of this?
And what we're seeing now, the Wall Street Journal's got a piece out right now.
Now, Wall Street Journal, of course, no fan of President Trump's foreign policy.
And their piece is talking about how this is really starting to stall out because they can't get to an agreement between the Russians and the Europeans.
And in fact, Steve, Professor John Mearsheimer, the guy who's been calling all of this since all the way back, go back to the Budapest memorandum of 1994 when he was saying none of this is going to work, said the exact same thing, that the issue here is that Trump and Putin can get to an agreement, but you'll never get Zelensky and the rest of the Europeans to go along with it.
But Jack, we have a $58 billion bailout of the Europeans going through the Senate now.
steve bannon
And folks, it's going to get dropped on your head in the first couple of weeks of September.
unidentified
$58 billion.
steve bannon
If we don't give them any money and we don't give them any arms, they have no leverage.
unidentified
The Europeans are not prepared to step up here.
steve bannon
We know this.
unidentified
So they say, Zelensky's not going to agree.
The Europeans are not going to agree.
What are we talking about?
I mean, we're underwriting this.
If we sit there and go, guys, the American taxpayers are not going to do us.
steve bannon
We're not going to be part of this slaughter anymore.
unidentified
You saw the hack that came out.
steve bannon
It's 1.7 million dead and wounded on the Ukrainian side.
unidentified
Pasovic, you've been nearing so much in the last week.
This is why President Trump always says, he says, look, I can't tell you everything from the intelligence sources, but the numbers are much worse than you think.
And now we know in that hack, it's 625,000 Ukrainians in this year.
If you want to stop the madness, it's just the United States that says, if we just tell the neocons, we're not going to do this anymore, right?
And then Zelensky and the Europeans are going to have to figure out how to deal with it.
Am I crazy on this?
I mean, Steve, that's really what it's coming down to.
And of course, this is why Karl Rove and so many others are trying to frame this as saying, well, hold on.
We don't want this to be Trump's Afghanistan.
jack posobiec
We don't want to see this.
unidentified
So they're trying to frame it as though Russia is poised to take Kiev the same way that the Taliban took Kabul.
jack posobiec
And they're trying to paint that picture for the president of the images, of course, the horrifying, gory images coming out of Kabul, of Afghanistan, of the plane, and, of course, Abygate, the bombing, everything that took place there.
So conjuring that up to try to instill this idea that that's what's going to happen to Trump.
unidentified
Meanwhile, it's really been Trump, on the other hand.
He's the one saying, well, hold on.
You're talking about these areas.
And of course, the Russians have been fighting in these areas three and a half years now.
They're not any closer to Kiev than they were weeks and days ago.
Now, that being said, the issue on the Ukrainian side, it's not territory, it's manpower.
And it's been manpower the whole time.
jack posobiec
That's why it's been such a political football as to the exact number of the casualties on either side, the ratio.
unidentified
Does it favor the Ukrainians?
jack posobiec
Does it favor the Russians?
Seems as though whatever the exact number is, and we've obviously seen a lot of different numbers being thrown around.
unidentified
It seems at this point it is favoring the Russians, that they are the ones who are clearly on the military advantage right now.
And that's why the Russians are saying, give us those last four of what are called the fortress cities in Donetsk province, because between those cities and the Dnieper River, it's nothing but farmland.
It's just flat farmland all the way across.
jack posobiec
They can shoot directly across the Dniper River.
Now you're down to Nikolaev.
unidentified
Odessa's right there.
And if you go up the river, boom, you're in Kiev.
jack posobiec
So the question here is not, it's really not, can we get the Ukrainians to the table?
unidentified
It's can we get the Russians?
Because there's people to Putin's right that are saying, what are you meeting for?
jack posobiec
Why are you holding this meeting?
unidentified
Why sit down at all?
jack posobiec
Why not go in all the way?
That's the real key here.
unidentified
And so President Trump has to look at this square on, and I think he did because we saw that post from him, I guess it was yesterday, when he said it's flat out.
And he talked about, you know, he didn't attack Russia.
He didn't do this or this.
jack posobiec
He said it's unwinnable.
unidentified
That was his point.
jack posobiec
He was saying that this is unwinnable for the Ukrainians on the battlefield.
Meanwhile, the Russians, I think they know a little something about when they're winning a war.
They're showing that they're more than willing to prosecute this to its full military extent.
unidentified
If we're going to be an accessory now, because this is slaughter, we have to have, and the Europeans didn't step up for anything.
steve bannon
They ran back there and that no security guarantee, no line of contact, no troops, no money.
unidentified
Germans say we might be able to do something.
steve bannon
Germans are whining because they put a brigade of troops, I think, in Lithuania, and they're sitting there going, We're tapped out.
This is a joke, and it's a sick joke.
unidentified
And 1.7 million dead or wounded Ukrainians and 625,000 this year.
And it hasn't been really refuted by anybody.
Jack, I want to pivot.
In this, the biggest cheerleader for Zelensky and Netanyahu, besides Tel Aviv Mark Levin, is John Bolton, the neocon of neocons.
steve bannon
How big a deal is this raid?
unidentified
I know it's about the original book, but I think they're going to find out they're taking a lot of boxes in there, Pasovic.
This is going to have a major implication because he's the biggest cheerleader for neocon policies.
And you've got to remember: when we get back from Labor Day, it's not just the Gaza occupation or the IDF going into Gaza City, which they're ramping up right now.
Netanyahu is going to be pitching Persian regime change.
steve bannon
We're going to go back to that.
unidentified
Just you heard it here first.
We're going to go back to that.
How is this going to play with John Bolton?
Their mouthpiece is looking at some serious jail time, sir.
Well, Steve, I actually have an exclusive report on all of this that I haven't even posted on Twitter yet.
Came in just as I was coming in to get ready for the hit here.
So this is what I'm getting.
jack posobiec
This is going to be a war room exclusive here from Human Events.
unidentified
That CIA director John Ratcliffe provided Kash Patel access to U.S. intelligence that served as the basis for the warrant to raid Bolton's house.
jack posobiec
So this is basically what we were thinking about.
unidentified
And this is an individual familiar is telling me this.
They're saying Bolton disingenuously attacked Trump for mishandling classified information.
It will go down as one of the most audacious and ironic acts of malice in political history.
jack posobiec
Bolton should have been throwing stones in his now-raided glass house.
unidentified
And this was something, I think, Steve, you and I talked about it when John Bolton's book came out.
That he was known for these yellow legal pads that he would take notes during every single meeting that was going on when he was the national security advisor.
And there were a lot of questions as to what exactly was the handling of those notes.
Did those yellow legal pads make it home to him?
And because there was a lot of information that was in there that also ended up in his book, which was publicized.
And by the way, part of which was leaked to the New York Times, even went back to my own reporting on this, part of which was leaked to the New York Times before it even came out in publication.
So there's a lot of questions about who leaked it in the first place.
Was it leaked during that period where they're supposed to be scrubbing it for classified and these yellow legal pads?
What information did he take?
Because classified information, here's a great example.
Even if you don't have documents, if the information that you have written down on your documents is classified and you take your document home, that's still taking classified information out of a classified area.
That's still taking you out of the skip.
jack posobiec
So if you're in if you're in a position like the Oval, if you're in the situation room, et cetera, you can't just take that home.
unidentified
And in fact, the information in your mind is still also classified.
jack posobiec
That's why you have a lifetime NDA.
unidentified
That's just the nature of classified information.
So I know there's a lot of people who focus on documents.
I'm certain they're, I'm sure there's going to be documents that we're talking about here, but this is very clear.
It's information that is classified, not a piece of paper.
Give me that from the CIA Director Ratcliffe again.
Can you do that one more time?
steve bannon
It's pretty amazing.
unidentified
John Ratcliffe provided FBI Director Kash Patel access to U.S. intelligence that served as the basis for the warrant to raid Bolton's house.
So these are documents, some kind of information that the CIA held that they were probably using that as a check to go into this warrant to say these are the things you're looking for that they provided.
This is going towards the probable cause for the raid that took place this morning.
I believe it's still ongoing.
It's gone going.
steve bannon
They're taking box after box in there to set it up.
unidentified
So this is pretty extraordinary.
He's known as being Zelensky adjacent and very close and friendly with the Zelensky regime in Kiev.
steve bannon
He's also known to be a big cheerleader and close to Netanyahu and what it call at least Mossad adjacent, right?
unidentified
He's got a reputation for all this.
This is why the first time, remember, President Trump stopped the missile attack that he concocted in the first term because it didn't have proportionality.
And President Trump stopped it at the last second.
Another Bolton exercise has gotten us into a shooting war with the Persians back then.
What kind of implications is this going to have today when we're looking at the kinetic part?
The kinetic part of the Third World War in Ukraine is not going to stop anytime soon.
The kinetic part of the Third World War in Gaza is only going to get ramped up here in the next week or two.
And Netanyahu is going to come back and push for regime change against the Persians.
What kind of impact is that going to have if John Bolton's got a muzzle on him, sir?
Well, Steve, I think it goes beyond John Bolton.
And for John, you know, Mr. Mustache, he is a neocons neocon.
And he's very tied in with the neoconservative Warhawk wing of the Republican Party, the neoconservative Warhawk wing of the intelligence community.
And so all of the names, and you can see them out on Twitter right now.
There's a picture of George Conway, I guess, standing in the driveway with his phone up trying to film some of this that's going quite viral.
Chari Spearing tweeted it out.
And so it's not just about what John Bolton stands for.
It's also about who did he share this information with?
Who knew that John Bolton was taking this?
jack posobiec
Was this potentially involved in the Russia Gate conspiracy?
unidentified
At some point, did they bring him together?
And does it all relate to the Russia hoax, which we know there's already an impaneled grand jury?
Certainly, some of the investigative probative value of the documents that are being taken right now are going to be checked against all of that.
So really, we may come to find that John Bolton played a larger part with all of these people because remember, what have we been told that they're looking at?
And that is an ongoing conspiracy against President Trump.
So if John Bolton played a part in that, you got to wonder if all of those other neocons that we've just been talking about are also wondering, what did John tell us?
And are they looking at us next?
By the way, George Conway ought to be arrested right now.
If he's in the parking lot trying to be a wise guy outside of the house, they ought to be arrested right now.
Jack, what's going to be on, where do people go for your social media?
And this afternoon's Human Events Daily, what have we got?
Well, Steve, we're going to be running this to ground.
jack posobiec
Any more information that I can find out about the Bolton raid and, of course, these investigations, we're going to be digging into that right now.
unidentified
I was actually at, I was out and about in D.C. last night, and I saw some top officials, and I said, you know, Kash Patel isn't around tonight.
I wonder where Cash is going to be.
And now I find out what he was up to this morning.
So we're going to be going to be digging into all of that today on Human Events Daily.
Amazing.
We'll be watching.
Jack Pesovic, 2 o'clock here, right on Real America's Voice.
Jack Pesovic, thank you for enlightening us.
Appreciate it, sir.
jack posobiec
God bless.
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steve bannon
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What do you got for us, sir?
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jake seawolf
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unidentified
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I mean, when an earthquake happens, separates a road.
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jake seawolf
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unidentified
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steve bannon
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unidentified
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steve bannon
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unidentified
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jake seawolf
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jake seawolf
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unidentified
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steve bannon
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Let's hear it.
unidentified
She doesn't resign.
Yeah, what she did was a bet.
So I'll fire her if she doesn't resign.
He just said right there, I'm going to fire Cook.
I think we just made some news there.
President Trump over this morning going over to the DC Museum or the gift shop right across the street.
Extraordinary.
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