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Aug. 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4725: FBI Raid Boltons Home; The Rule Of Don
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alex degrasse
07:40
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ken dilanian
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steve bannon
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christina bobb
03:41
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donald j trump
01:33
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jackie toboroff
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jonathan lemire
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katty kay
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gavin newsom
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jake tapper
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john bolton
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unidentified
It is likely to be passed today by the Texas Senate after advancing out of a special committee there yesterday.
And as the GOP-drawn map in Texas nears its final passage, California Democrats are pushing forward with a sweeping plan of their own.
The state's Democratic-controlled legislature yesterday passed a series of redistricting bills aiming to flip five GOP-held House seats, which would neutralize the potential Republican gains in Texas.
jonathan lemire
The plan in California, however, still requires voter approval with a special election now set for November 4th.
unidentified
Any given moment.
But I don't think he cared about the classification system.
I don't think he appreciated the sensitivity of this information.
And he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of how it was often acquired, the so-called sources and methods.
So this had been briefed to him before I arrived.
john bolton
It was repeated frequently.
unidentified
I think it simply had no impact on him whatever.
jonathan lemire
FBI agents have raided the home of former Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton early this morning.
unidentified
A source familiar with the matter tells NBC News that FBI agents were sent there as part of a national security investigation in search of classified records.
The FBI has not yet commented on this story.
We should note again, we don't know what's happening here.
jonathan lemire
It's a raid.
unidentified
If there are criminal charges that follow, the government will have a chance, of course, to explain their case.
jonathan lemire
But right now, we just know that John Bolton, former national security advisor for President Trump, now turned pretty harsh Trump critic.
His home in suburban Washington has been raided.
unidentified
Responding what occurred in Texas, we're neutralizing what occurred, and we're giving the American people a fair chance.
Because when all things are equal, we're all playing by the same set of rules, there's no question that the Republican Party will be the minority party in the House of Representatives next year.
We got here because the President of the United States is struggling.
We got here because the President of the United States is one of the most unpopular presidents in U.S. history.
We got here because he recognizes that he will lose the election.
gavin newsom
Congress will go back into the hands of the Democratic Party next November.
unidentified
Can't win by playing by traditional sets of rules.
He plays by no rules.
I remind you all the time, it's not the rule of law, it's the rule of God.
And we're standing up to that.
ken dilanian
I have one update for you.
The FBI, in fact, has commented on this.
An FBI spokesperson told me, I'm going to read the statement, quote, the FBI is conducting court-authorized activity in the area.
unidentified
There is no threat to public safety.
We have no further comment.
And that is generally what the FBI does when there is a visible search of a residence or a business is they will confirm, because it's obvious to everyone with eyes, that they are conducting court authorized activity in the area.
To answer your question, what would they need to do this?
ken dilanian
They would need a magistrate judge to sign a warrant after a finding of probable cause to believe that there is evidence of a crime at the location of the search, which is John Bolton's home here in Bethesda.
unidentified
And as you said, a source is telling NBC News that this is about a search for classified documents.
So what's the context here?
Well, John Bolton wrote a book that was very critical of Donald Trump, and it was sort of a memoir recounting his time as national security advisor called The Room Where It Happened.
And remember, the Trump administration not only sued him, but also launched a criminal investigation, which was then subsequently dropped when President Biden took office and Merrick Garland became the Attorney General.
A lawsuit was also dropped.
Trying to essentially say that he didn't get the required permissions and clearances around making sure there was no classified information in the book.
He has long said there was no classified information in the book, but that is one of the possible avenues here for what they could be looking at.
Of course, this is incredibly ironic, given the fact that just a few days ago, FBI Director Kash Patel was on Fox Business saying falsely that the search of Donald Trump's home in Mar-lago, the FBI raid, was unconstitutional, was unfounded, that there was no predicate.
In fact, a judge signed a warrant in that instance as well.
And Judge Eileen Cannon, who was a Trump appointed judge, who ruled in Donald Trump's favor and in many, many issues, actually upheld the legality of that search and rejected Donald Trump's lawyers' efforts to throw it out.
But of course, Donald Trump and his allies denounced that FBI action.
They called it an unjust invasion of his home at Mar-Lago.
ken dilanian
But now today you have police cars and FBI agents outside of John Bolton's home in Bethesda, what they're saying is a very similar action.
jonathan lemire
Texas is gone, California heading that way.
unidentified
There are other states considering it.
Some of them, like New York, there are more obstacles in place.
It won't be quite as easy to pull off.
It would be hard to argue this is good, big picture, for this nation's democracy, but this is where we are now.
The latest political norm and custom just thrown away in the Trump era.
Yeah, and it's not what the majority of Americans want, right?
And poll after poll, voters are telling us they would much rather this was done in a non-political way, non-partisan way.
But it looks like it's going to go ahead.
katty kay
Even in New York that you mentioned there, Jonathan, by 2028, we could see that redistricting happening as well.
unidentified
So this morning, the Wall Street Journal editorial board has a piece titled The Gerrymander Race to the Bottom, and it reads in part, quote, Say this for the gerrymander wars.
Both parties are honest about their raw partisan motives.
Texas's gambit to redistrict mid-decade is dubious, but Democrats have long done the same.
katty kay
Difference is Democrats have been more aggressive in using courts rather than their legislatures to redraw maps, all while pretending to defend democracy or fight racism.
unidentified
But gerrymandered gains are sometimes swept away with big election tides, as in 2006 and 2018.
katty kay
A large share of voters aren't fiercely partisan.
Texas Republicans also risk inviting a voter backlash that could flip a Senate seat if State Attorney General Ken Paxton defeats Senator John Corn in GOP primary.
Gerrymanders reduce political competition and they're getting worse over time.
unidentified
Congress could set limits on the practice, but incumbents want safer seats.
Unless voters rebel, it will continue.
katty kay
At least the political cynicism is no longer hiding behind false flags.
unidentified
I mean, it's true.
Both sides are saying this is an arms race.
katty kay
We have to do this to protect our majority.
unidentified
They're not pretending that this is anything other than it is.
But the reality is that in this arms race, the Republicans have mission.
ken dilanian
Kash Patel is trying to turn the FBI essentially into a national police force.
unidentified
He is de-emphasizing the traditional national security mission of the FBI.
After 9-11, essentially, the entire agency was reoriented to make the number one priority, stopping a terrorist attack on the United States.
So counterterrorism was the number one mission.
But counter-espionage has always been a huge mission of the FBI.
Other national security missions, also white-collar fraud and corruption.
Kash Patel sees it much differently.
He refers to FBI agents as cops, and he has been taking a number of steps to direct them to essentially go after violent crime, which is generally a state and local priority.
And also, he's ordered that FBI agents spend a considerable amount of time conducting immigration enforcement.
But there has also been a clear, a clear direction for the FBI and the Justice Department to essentially pursue Donald Trump's political enemies.
Now, they don't describe it that way, but in that same interview with Fox News, where Kash Patel was denouncing the search on Mar-a Lago, he also essentially issued a threat to any FBI agent or Justice Department prosecutor that had worked on that case or the other Jack Smith indictment of Donald Trump regarding overturning the election.
Kash Patel said, you should come in and talk to us.
And if you don't, you're going to find yourself on the end of our investigative activity, and it's going to be very uncomfortable for you.
I'm paraphrasing.
So that was a remarkable statement by an FBI director.
Essentially, they're making no bones about the fact that they are looking to investigate people that were involved in what they said was weaponization with these investigations of Donald Trump.
And in fact, they've appointed a lawyer, Ed Martin, at the Justice Department to be in charge of a weaponization working group.
And they are working on various investigations, including reportedly a grand jury investigation that potentially involves President Obama and aides to Obama around the 10-year-old Russian, the intelligence community assessment of Russia's efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.
ken dilanian
So Donald Trump's law enforcement apparatus appears to be responding to his desire to relitigate all of these issues where he thinks he was wronged by the intelligence community and the Justice Department and the FBI.
And it's going in what a lot of people think is some very dangerous directions.
unidentified
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
It's Friday, 22, August, year of our Lord, 2025.
A little bit going on today, and so many things happening, so much winning going on across the board.
steve bannon
We're going to get to it.
unidentified
In our maximalist strategy, everything we need to do now has to be maximalist.
You have to take it to its own logical conclusion because we're burning daylight and everything has got to be urgent.
You see exactly what the strategy of Gavin Newsome and the Democrats are, is to try to gerrymander the 2026 election, have Hakeem Jeffries had they take the House by one or two seats.
Hakeem Jeffrey speaker, Donald Trump is impeached.
All of his people are investigated and the Trump – oh, we're going to go right down to President Trump.
Let's go ahead and punch right to President Trump.
steve bannon
Okay, I guess we're not going to do that.
unidentified
For this wonderful ballroom to be built, we have this 33,000 square foot experience open seven days a week, free to the public.
So until that's built and reopened, we're happy to welcome everyone here and so honored and happy that you came over today.
donald j trump
And you do a great job.
unidentified
He's been here a long time, and we have a lot of things in common.
We love the White House, right?
I love that.
And we're doing some very detailed renovations, fixing things that are broken, fixing floors that are cracked up and not good anymore.
In many cases, they were done in the 50s and 60s and 70s.
Okay, the feed is frozen.
We'll go back.
steve bannon
President Trump's across the street from the White House at the gift shop.
unidentified
There's a gift shop that sells paraphernalia from the White House.
I hope they're stocking a Trump 2028 hat or four more years, which the president has in the little private gift area that he has right next to the Oval Office, the old Monica Lewinsky, the shrine to Monica Lewinsky.
I think we got an exorcist in there in the first term.
Make sure you get all the bad evil spirits out.
As soon as we get that feedback up, we'll go to it.
steve bannon
But there's so much.
unidentified
And in fact, we're going to blow the break or what's the blowing the break.
steve bannon
This is great.
unidentified
On a Friday here in the war room, a lot going on.
steve bannon
President Trump went on patrol last night.
He walked across the street today to the gift shop.
unidentified
He's supposed to make a very special announcement at 12 noon.
steve bannon
Don't know what that's going to be.
There are FBI agents, a swarm of FBI agents all over the house of John Bolton.
unidentified
Can we go to a split screen on that?
steve bannon
We go live.
By the way, Powell is talking right now in Jackson Hole.
unidentified
I think, Grace, we have up on our other stream the entire Powell speech in its entirety.
I'm not 100% sure of it.
I think he's blamed tariffs on a 2.6% increase in prices, which I don't think the data backs that up, but we're going to get to all that.
steve bannon
So Powell's speaking in Jackson Hole.
unidentified
He's going to talk about the rate cut in September.
steve bannon
The President of the United States over at the gift shop, I think he's over there to make sure they're stocking that four more years ball cap that he gave to the Armenians in Azerbaijan when they came in for the peace conference.
unidentified
And the Azerbaijan, I think, prime minister or president said, hey, our country is 100% forward.
steve bannon
We want at least four more years.
unidentified
I want to go to, so we're going to get a lot in today.
We're going to talk about 55 million, 55 million visas for foreigners in your country right now.
steve bannon
Let me repeat that, 55 million, which I think is bigger than like 100 of the countries that are in the, that are in, more than that, but more than 100 countries that are in the United Nations.
unidentified
Absolutely absurd what's going on here right there.
steve bannon
That's the front.
That's the house where it happened for the book, the room where it happened.
unidentified
It looks like Bolton has always been accused of taking classified information out of the White House for that.
I think the law of unintended consequences are, though, John Bolton's the biggest cheerleader for both Zelensky.
He's the biggest cheerleader for Netanyahu's murderous government.
He's the biggest cheerleader.
steve bannon
He's a well-known Mossad associate.
unidentified
So I think it's a law of unintended consequences when you walk in that house and they take in boxes and boxes in these banker boxes or what you do when you put papers in.
Earlier, they were putting that in there.
So we're going to get to all that.
First order of business, though, is the redistricting wars.
Alex deGrasse, you're joining me now, and we have not the War Impossi, as you know, because of your leadership, has been on top of this and driving this in Texas, just like we drove it in 22.
But we're not doing a maximalist strategy.
steve bannon
We've got to get to that.
unidentified
Gavin Newsom is playing Smash Mouth.
He's running for President of the United States.
steve bannon
They passed this with two-thirds in the House and the Senate yesterday and overcoming a court challenge, which got blown out because the California state courts are also terrible.
unidentified
It's on the ballot now for November.
This is going to be, folks, this is not about 26 anymore.
This is about 28.
steve bannon
So this is going to be a massive, massive throwdown.
unidentified
Alex deGrasse, walk me through.
Yeah, I even had Scott Jennings, a McConnell guy, saying that Kentucky ought to go.
So the way I calculate, and I want you to walk through, if we do a maximalist strategy right now, I think we have at least 10 additional seats that we have to get, five in Florida, two in Ohio, and I think one each in Indiana, Kentucky, and Missouri.
Am I correct on that, sir?
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, Kentucky, I think Scott was first to mention it, and there's some words.
So it's sort of a developing front, of course.
But 15 is what we always spoke about for the last couple of weeks.
And so that's where at, if you don't even count Kentucky, with five in Florida, two to three in Ohio, and then Indiana, Missouri.
And it's really important to kind of keep the gas up because the Democrats have obviously showed their cards.
And I thought it was interesting that MSNBC is sort of admitting that, you know, this fight, they don't have the type of gunpower that we do.
alex degrasse
You know, they don't have the type of firepower that we do because they've already gunked this whole thing.
They've already gerrymandered or they've sort of put mechanisms in place that they'll kind of come back like New York the next election, right?
unidentified
Because they've got these quote-unquote independent processes and everything else.
alex degrasse
So we have to maximize everything we can because this is not just while we need to be maniacally focused on this election, of course, and the implications for this election, this is going to be a drawn-out two-cycle fight, regardless of the Supreme Court and how things rule.
unidentified
I think some people are a little nervous on the ground.
I see some Indiana guys melting down, but this could be the game changer for this republic.
I mean, this will make or break everything that we have fought so far.
alex degrasse
I mean, this stuff will disappear as you laid out, Steve.
I mean, this will disappear like that if we lose the House.
So everything's within the law.
unidentified
Everything is fair.
alex degrasse
You look at, obviously, Texas, I think, is only getting up to about a 76%.
unidentified
You're looking at like a 21% differential, maybe 18% between the margin of Democrat vote share and kind of their seat representation.
alex degrasse
Almost every Democrat state is exponentially worse on the representation if you look at obviously percentage of the state.
unidentified
No, no, no.
steve bannon
Okay.
Hang on.
unidentified
Hang on.
I want to get some facts here because the people got to understand how bad it is.
In California, it's been 42 to 9.
And this is a place that has, I think, 41% of the votes are Republican votes.
It's 42 to 9.
They're going to 48 to 4.
They're not even, I mean, and they're not shy about it.
All of New England is 25 to nothing.
And I think aggregated up, New England's about 39 or 40% Republican votes, 25 to zero.
How bad is New York, sir?
It's, I mean, it's New York, we fought and we were pretty victorious in holding the line.
I think, I mean, New York, just because, I mean, frankly, Belise and everyone we fought.
alex degrasse
I mean, if you got what they put forward, Steve, we would have had three or four seats, right, out of 28 when you look at Lee's Elden lost by six points.
So it's totally ballistic.
That's if they got the map we wanted, but we defeated them twice because, hey, news flash to the reporters watching, Kathy Hochl mid-decade, redistricted in 20 last election.
unidentified
So you could cut the trash, honestly.
Okay, she redistricted.
alex degrasse
She tried to gerrymander even further.
We stopped them with court legal and they moved the margins about five or six percentage points in a couple seats, which really was the game changer for NY22.
unidentified
Also, Tom Swazi's seat.
alex degrasse
You could have flipped two more seats if we had kept the maps the same because national money moved around based off what the expectations were with the margin.
So, you know, this whole thing is a total scam.
I mean, they mid-decade redistricted last election cycle, okay?
unidentified
We've had three or four different maps in the last three years in New York State, and Republicans have been victorious because we've been fighting it out using their rules, Steve.
I mean, hey, these are their rules.
And of course, New York is trying to play smash mouth, but they're sort of hamstrung behind the state constitution, just like sort of California.
I think it's interesting that Newsley is very selfish, of course.
And of course, we know why, Steve.
alex degrasse
But the reality is if he continues to escalate this, which of course he is, this will spiral out of control for the Democrats.
unidentified
So bring it on.
alex degrasse
I mean, they will implode on this fight.
unidentified
Well, this is why.
Okay, so right now, but we can't wait for them to push for us to react.
We've advocated this from the beginning.
steve bannon
A maximalist strategy.
unidentified
So right now we got five in Texas.
There's another 10.
steve bannon
That's five in Florida, two in Ohio, one in Kentucky, one in Indiana, one in Missouri.
unidentified
You said there might be three in Ohio because under the maximum strategy, do you believe we actually get three seats out of Ohio?
Yeah, I've heard that.
I'm not, I've heard, there's a lot of chatter.
I mean, there's a lot of people looking over maps because I think with the Texas, with California, it's sort of the band-aid's off.
The mask is off, as you would say, Steve, right?
I mean, the Driple C and the super PACs behind Hakeem Jeffries.
I mean, they are the funders.
alex degrasse
Now public record shows that you've got millions of dollars flooding in, and they actually openly admit they drew the map.
I mean, they drew the map here at the DCCC, right?
unidentified
So now I think people are saying, okay, look, game on, and I think people are going to, this will sort of escalate.
I think people are getting a little more blatant because I think people try to play cute.
alex degrasse
You look at Texas, of course.
unidentified
Like we said, of course, they can pick up easily more seats there, Steve.
alex degrasse
I mean, let's be honest about it.
I mean, that's really important for people to know because I think even with the current map with the five additional seats, I think it is less gerrymandered than California is right now before they jam another five seats.
If you look at the voting share percentages that we were talking about before.
unidentified
And I think that's really important for everyone, including all the liberal reporters watching, since I know so many of them do, Steve, which is quite funny.
But so, you know, guess what?
Game on, I guess, right?
But game on, by the way, we're going back.
The Texas 10, we're behind the scenes.
We're working non-stop.
We want the additional five seats in Texas.
Ebb and these guys have not done their job.
We had 10 seats down there.
We want all 10.
So there's a lot of work behind.
So right now, there's five we got with Texas.
steve bannon
There's another 10 from all these other states that are in play.
unidentified
And I like the fact Scott Jennings is saying he concurs we should do Kentucky.
Then you've got another Texas five.
That would be a total, if we did our job, that would be a total of 20 seats redistricted.
And that's what it should be because this is a combination.
I'll put the mediite story up later.
Not mediite.
Media Matters did a great analysis of what we've been talking about here for the last couple of days of every different aspect of this.
Alex, it's just not the redistricting awards we're in right now.
It's also stopping the mail-in ballots.
It's having ICE agents near the polling stations.
steve bannon
If you're an illegal alien, the word's got to get out.
unidentified
You're not voting anymore.
You're not voting in our country more.
If you're going to vote, you're going to be arrested.
By the way, you go down there, you're illegal alien, you're going to get arrested anyway.
steve bannon
It's the mid-century, it's the mid-decade census to really have a count.
unidentified
Because President Trump the other day, Alex said it's 100 seats he's talking about.
If you did the census, everything else we're talking about, it's a change of 100 seats with every aspect of this.
Your thoughts on President Trump's observation of the 100 seats?
Yeah, I think Stephen Miller, I think, talked about 2030 just on obviously the census.
And then if you get to VRA, right, the Voting Rights, you know, Act and sort of how the draw racial seats, that's important, right?
Racial seats.
Because I think that's sort of the issue in New England, right?
I think in the South, they have to draw racial.
And obviously in New England, you know, MAGA is not a protected class, of course.
alex degrasse
So we don't get seats.
unidentified
And so they draw us out.
alex degrasse
So, you know, if that all changes, I think you're looking at 50.
unidentified
Like I think I had said maybe more, I think, in the combination of everything.
And I think that that really is the ballgame because there's absolutely no path to victory for the Democrats.
They will have to change as a party as we know it.
And they will be dead.
alex degrasse
I mean, honestly, there will be a firewall in this country, just like the founders, to be honest, envisioned this.
unidentified
And I think, and maybe it could be more.
alex degrasse
I mean, I guess we just really have to remove the mask on the amount of illegal immigrants that are all over the place and how that gets counted into the census.
unidentified
I mean, we are looking at already a shift of about 15 electoral college points, just not even, that's still with counting illegal immigrants.
That's just sort of based off the population shifts occurring right now with people leaving blue states and going to the red states.
alex degrasse
And so if you really, you know, remove the mask on how many illegal immigrants are everywhere, this thing drops like a rock in certain areas.
unidentified
I mean, I'm reading reports that some places in California, 30, 40% illegal immigrants and some towns.
I don't know what's true.
Now I'm just reading all these reports and this is sort of exploding, obviously, as people are sort of looking into this.
But the mail ballot, Steve, I mean, that really, other than everything else, just that's just also the ballgame.
I mean, you stop the unregulated, unfettered mass mail-in ballots.
You look at New York State, as long as you have someone's birth date, you go on a website, you click it in, and a ballot shows up at your house.
I mean, there's absolutely no guardrails.
It's insane.
They go, oh, well, that's illegal.
alex degrasse
Well, okay, so is everything else going on?
unidentified
And crime's rampant all over the place.
So the fact that you have these in California, right, the ballots showing up a month and a half after the election, Steve.
alex degrasse
I mean, once we already know the count, they can go find ballots, bring them in with no postmark, and they count.
unidentified
I mean, really third world countries have a better handle on this than the state of California and New York, of course.
The voter rolls really needs to be converged all the time.
You converge all this and you add the Louisiana case in the Supreme Court about the racial gerrymandering, 100 seats for 100 years.
And we're going to do it.
steve bannon
We have to have a maximalist strategy.
That's where we're going to go back to Texas.
Texas, the Wimps at the senior level, the Speaker of the House, Burroughs, the Lieutenant Governor, pathetic.
unidentified
The governor, pathetic, just pathetic.
You look what they're doing.
Gavin Newsom is playing Smash Mouth.
That's Smashmouth.
steve bannon
That's coming right at you, and they're brazen about it.
A state that's got over 40% Republican votes is going to have a congressional delegation.
unidentified
It has 52 seats, the largest delegation in the House.
It'll be 48 to 4.
Alex deGrasse, your social media, where do people go?
steve bannon
Because, folks, this is going to be a massive fight every day until I think it's November 3rd in California.
unidentified
This is going to be the ball.
A billion dollars is going to be spent on this because Gavin Newsom's launched his presidential campaign.
I think Brother McCarthy out there is a California guy.
steve bannon
He's very upset about this.
unidentified
He's going to be a major part of this.
steve bannon
This is going to be all hands on deck to defeat this in November.
unidentified
Alex deGrasse, where do people go to get you, sir?
And Steve, just real quick, I want to say, like, historically, actually, our people are very good at these sort of ballot initiatives at these sort of kind of unique elections because it really is just the ultimate turnout, right?
alex degrasse
Getting your people out for sort of a unique niche issue.
unidentified
And I think for the California posse, which I know there's like a million of us out there, more, obviously, if we dig in, we can win.
I mean, it's a tough fight, no spin about it.
But I think that will become sort of the fight.
alex degrasse
Because if you end this thing there for Newsome, the whole thing crumbles and their party is in shambles nationwide.
unidentified
But anyway, I'm at the Grass81.
alex degrasse
I look forward to, you know, let's keep this going.
unidentified
Everyone's got to work the phones, push everyone you can at all levels, county GOP, state GOP, your electeds, and let's just get this done because this could be the whole ballgame.
Alex was our leader in 22 when we did this.
That ensured the victory in 22 to pick up those seats in the house that we needed to flip it away from Pelosi.
Taking great leadership again early on this.
We were ahead of the Democrats.
That's why they got caught by surprise.
Now it's game on.
And this is going to be a titanic struggle, but it's nothing the Warren Posse loves more than a good fight, a good throwdown.
DeGrasse, thank you so much, brother.
I appreciate you.
Thanks, Lee.
Folks, it's a maximalist strategy on everything.
steve bannon
Half measures don't work.
unidentified
You're not going to get any credit from these people at all.
The media is like, look, look, the perfect example is what President Trump's tried to do in Ukraine.
He tried to move heaven and earth in Ukraine.
And what is Karl Rove, Karl Rove, you know, the Bush guilty of, you know, with all the war crimes Bush has had on the illegitimate war that they lied about the American people.
He's saying, hey, if Kiev, if Ukraine's not victorious in this war, it'll be Donald Trump's Afghanistan.
I'm telling you, we need to go to full measures.
I love what's happening to Bolton right now.
steve bannon
We're going to get more in that.
Christina Bob's going to join us.
She was at Mar-a-Lago when they had the raid against President Trump.
unidentified
Jackie Toborov joins me.
55 million, 55 million visa holders in this country.
steve bannon
Told you.
unidentified
Secretary of State, the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, is sending 6,000 home right away.
We're going to talk about that.
But hey, we want to cut the visa holders in half.
You think we might not have an affordability problem on homes if we did that?
Also, the truckers, they're making big decisions.
Get all the foreign truckers out of here.
Get rid of all of it.
As we've had the truckers on here before, we're going to talk about all that.
Pesopic's going to join us.
steve bannon
We are packed.
unidentified
And of course, Powell, President Trump's favorite, giving comments out with all the central bankers in Jackson Hole.
We're going to try to track down, see we get that feedback on the president.
President's over the gift shop.
steve bannon
He's got a big announcement at noon.
unidentified
I don't know.
Is it four more years?
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Okay, we had a trouble with the feed of the president.
He was taking some questions.
steve bannon
We're going to try to get that as soon as we get set up.
unidentified
I'm sure there's things of interest there.
There's so much going on.
Now we got the focus right.
What you're seeing is the door to John Bolton's health.
And we're going to cover this.
steve bannon
They have taken a number of boxes in there.
unidentified
It looks like they're boxing things up.
I would assume those would be documents.
The controversies about the book, at least the initial part, is the room where it happened.
It was a very controversial anti-Trump book from his time as national security advisor at the time.
steve bannon
There was all types of allegations.
unidentified
He had taken classified information to work on it.
steve bannon
So right there, that is the house where it happened.
unidentified
Right now, the FBI, they're in a massive, a massive rate.
And we'll get to it in a second.
steve bannon
Powell is being Powell's mealymouth self over in Jackson Hole.
We're going to get that up.
unidentified
It's streaming right now.
We're trying to decipher what he's actually saying about interest rates.
I think he's agreeing to the fact that their models might have been wrong and they might have to, quote unquote, adjust.
And so I don't know if he's committed to a rate cut in September.
steve bannon
We're going to get to that.
unidentified
But he has said their analysis shows that tariffs, I think, has added 2.6% to prices costs.
steve bannon
I'm not sure about that.
We differ, but he can have his own opinion.
unidentified
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steve bannon
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unidentified
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unidentified
It's going to be quite turbulent.
We know that.
This is a fourth turning, so obviously things are turbulent.
This is where we are recommending and we advocate a maximalist strategy in every aspect of President Trump's government.
In fact, it was just announced the DOD has announced, I think 2,000 of the troops that are currently deployed to D.C., I think I'm reading that correctly, are going to be allowed to be armed.
Of course, crime rates are coming in D.C., dropping through the floor.
steve bannon
People in D.C. absolutely love it.
unidentified
I can tell you, as someone that is quite familiar, at least with the Capitol Hill area, there's been a sea change that's happened just in the last couple of days.
So birchgold.com.
We're going to get to Powell.
We got the presidents over at the gift shop, I guess they call it the D.C. Museum, and get comments from him.
But we want to focus on this maximalist strategy.
Right now, Christina Bob Jordan says, Christina, you were at, you were the president's lawyer.
You were at Mar-a-Lago the day.
steve bannon
What's the difference?
They're saying this is just a strong man.
unidentified
He's trying to intimidate his critics.
Walk me through your perspective on this, ma'am.
Yeah, no, I am loving this.
This is nothing like the Mar-a-Lago raid.
christina bobb
The Mar-a-Lago raid also started earlier in the day the way that this one did, but the FBI didn't say anything about it.
Christopher Wray hid from it, and they didn't let the public know at all.
unidentified
It was Donald Trump who made it public at the end of the day after the raid was over.
And they hid from it for three days.
If you remember, Merrick Garland didn't even address it until August 11th, where he gave a speech at the DOJ podium where he was basically taking responsibility because for the previous three days, the Biden administration was going, oh, well, wow, we had no idea.
christina bobb
We didn't do this.
You know, nobody was taking responsibility.
unidentified
And it took three days before Merrick Garland finally said, okay, yeah, I approved this.
christina bobb
Christopher Wray, the FBI director, never came out and said that.
unidentified
But yet here, today, we have Kash Patel coming out front saying nobody's above the law.
The FBI has said, yes, we are raiding his home.
We have our FBI presence there.
Our agents are there.
So the FBI in this instance under Kash Patel is not afraid to take ownership of this.
And with Mar-a-Lago, they were afraid to take ownership of it because they knew they weren't supposed to be there.
christina bobb
They didn't actually have probable cause, and they didn't find anything worth using.
unidentified
And we know that because the case was supposed to be in Washington, D.C.
The grand jury subpoena came out of Washington, D.C. When I was forced to testify, I had to go up to Washington, D.C.
They were working something against Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. that they could not even get enough evidence to indict him in D.C.
So they had to scramble, cover their own rear ends, and take it down to Florida and try to come up with a ridiculous obstruction of justice case against Donald Trump.
So the whole thing was falling apart from the beginning.
So I'm loving that cash has taken command and control of this.
He's out front.
He's not shying away from it.
And that lets me know he's on good footing.
He's on good standing, and he is not worried about any attacks coming at this.
Well, they put out a statement saying it's a court-approved.
What does that mean?
steve bannon
Explain to the audience when they actually say in their official release that this is court-approved.
unidentified
What does that mean?
Yeah, it means they got a warrant.
They have a warrant to do it.
christina bobb
They went to a judge.
unidentified
The same way, actually, for the Mar-a-Lago raid, they did go to a Florida magistrate to get a warrant where you have to have a sworn affidavit from an agent or from your source saying that this is the probable cause that we want to use in order to effectuate this search warrant.
But when they did it in the Trump case, they went to a judge who was conflicted out.
christina bobb
Just weeks prior, Bruce Reinhardt had recused himself from the Trump Clinton case in Florida because he said he couldn't be impartial in the case.
unidentified
And then a few weeks later, that's who the FBI goes to to get their search warrant.
And oh, by the way, they lied to the judge in the affidavit.
They left out all the information about how cooperative he had been, I had been, the defense team had been.
They left out all of the collaboration and cooperation on the part of the Trump team.
christina bobb
They manipulated the facts to fit the narrative they wanted that were not accurate.
unidentified
And then they lied to a judge who was conflicted out to get their search warrant.
So yeah, I mean, they did get a search warrant, but I don't think they got it legally.
So you're saying that they had to show probable cause today to a judge that signed this warrant and allowed them to go in and retrieve and take those, take whatever they're going to take out to actually do this raid.
But you've seen them earlier making these cardboard boxes ready to like, and there were quite a few of them.
They had to go to a judge and make the case for probable cause, ma'am.
Yeah, 100%.
In order to, I mean, based on their statement, it sounds like they got a search warrant.
I can't imagine they would do this without a warrant.
So yeah, they got a search warrant.
They had to make their case to a judge.
They had to swear under oath.
You know, an agent or somebody that had the probable cause had to swear under oath saying that we have probable cause.
This is what it is.
christina bobb
The judge makes the assessment, him or herself, and signs the warrant.
unidentified
They got the warrant here and they're executing it.
Okay.
Christina, thank you so much.
Where do people go to keep up with you on this case?
steve bannon
I know that now more than ever, people want to know your thoughts since you were intimately involved as president's lawyer when they tried to railroad President Trump.
unidentified
Where do people go?
Please check out my new book.
I've got a book coming out on the Mar-a-Lago Raid Forward by Donald Trump himself.
You can find that on Amazon, wherever books are sold.
You can find me on social media at Christina underscore Bob.
Hang on.
I got to put that, that photograph, that photo is, is that by our own Dan Fluitt, my producer?
That magnificent photo of you?
It is.
Dan is amazing.
You've got the best producers and team.
Dan was awesome.
christina bobb
Yep, he did the cover.
unidentified
You look like, not that you don't look like a movie star in real life because you do, but man, you really look like a movie star on the cover of this book.
No, this is Dan's book, The Rogue Street.
I'm afraid when people see me in real life now, they're like, oh, he did such a good job.
The book's going to be amazing.
steve bannon
Christina, thank you so much.
One of President Trump's lawyers.
unidentified
Thank you.
Appreciate you.
Thank you.
A Marine Corps veteran, Christina Bobb, tough as bootleather.
They've had her in some very tough situations, gotten out.
I think the President of the United States has a comment on the Bolton raid.
My producers tell me.
Can we go ahead and play that?
And then we'll come back.
Let's hear it.
donald j trump
No, I don't know about it.
unidentified
I saw it on television this morning.
I'm not a fan of John Bowen.
donald j trump
He's a real sort of a lowlife.
unidentified
When I hired him, he served a good purpose because, as you know, he was one of the people that forced Bush to do the ridiculous bombings in the Middle East.
He wants to always kill people.
And he's very bad at what he does, but he worked out great for me because every time he doesn't talk, he's like a very quiet person, except on television, who he could say something bad about Trump.
He'll always do that.
But he really doesn't talk.
He's quiet.
And I'd walk into a room with him with a foreign country, and the foreign country would give me everything because they said, oh, no, they're going to get blown up because John Bolton is a not a smart guy, but he could be a very unpatriotic guy.
donald j trump
I mean, we're going to find out.
I know nothing about it.
unidentified
I just saw it this morning.
They did a raid.
Do you expect the DOJ to brief you on this?
Yeah, they'll brief me, probably today sometime.
And War Minister.
I don't want to.
I tell Pam and I tell the group.
donald j trump
I don't want to know, but just you have to do what you have to do.
unidentified
I don't want to know about it.
It's not necessary.
I could know about it.
donald j trump
I could be the one starting it.
unidentified
I'm actually the chief law enforcement officer.
But I feel that it's better this way.
Whoa, right from the war room.
Chief Magistrate and Chief Law Enforcement Officer.
The three powers of the office of the president.
He's chief executive officer of the government of the United States.
He is commander-in-chief of the armed forces.
And he is the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer.
Boom.
Suck on that.
That's amazing.
John Bolton, obviously.
This is tied to, I think, originally what Cash talked about, because he said, hey, there's an investigation that got stood down.
That investigation, I think, is pretty well known.
By the way, that's his front door right there.
It's pretty well known, was about the book, The Room Where It Happened, a very anti-Trump book about classified information being in that or taken out.
But the law of unintended consequences, this is the biggest cheerleader for Zelensky, biggest cheerleader for Netanyahu, biggest cheerleader for regime change in Persia, all of it.
And also a known colleague of the Mossad.
So this could have much big, big, big implications because it looks like they're going to take a lot of stuff out of there.
Do we have a call open for Jackie Toboroff?
I'll tell you what, let's go right to Jackie.
Jackie, you've got an amazing piece up.
I want to pull the camera back for a second.
It's been explained now to the American people there are 55 million, did I hear this right?
steve bannon
55 million visa holders in the United States of America.
unidentified
Is that correct, ma'am?
Yeah, I heard the same thing you heard.
And this is really bad news for Democrats.
It would be the end of the housing crisis, which is pretty much what they have hung their hat on.
Well, what they're saying is the 55 million visas that the Secretary of State is going to review, correct?
They're now going to review all 55 million visa holders.
Now, we don't know what that review takes.
I've got about a minute for you on this side.
I'm going to hold it to you to the break.
You wrote this piece, though, about the 6,000.
I think they're pulling particularly student visas.
Can you walk me through that?
steve bannon
Because they're starting to take action.
unidentified
6,000 is a dropping the bucket to 55 million, but at least it's a start.
What's your article about?
You're saying they're not sending their best or we're not getting the best and the brightest?
Yeah, we've been totally lied to.
jackie toboroff
We've been told that international students in these American universities or these so-called American universities, which are heavily funded by Arab oil nations and the CCP, are taking in the best and the brightest international students.
We are not getting Einstein.
unidentified
We're getting Mahmoud Khalil.
And as a result, so far, 6,000 visa holders have had their visas revoked due to serious crimes and being a threat to national security.
So, and those 6,000 are gone.
steve bannon
Now, President Trump had the 350,000, I think, Chinese students.
unidentified
At one time, they were put on hold.
That's been pulled.
Hang on for one second.
We'll go back.
steve bannon
We're going to get you back on here in a second.
We also got the truckers.
unidentified
They've dropped a hammer on these international truckers.
In every aspect of President Trump's government, you're seeing people focus on what the problems are and look for solutions, whether that's Washington, D.C., law and order in Washington, D.C., obviously guys like John Bolton using classified information against the country, or whether it's 55 million visa holders.
You think, as Jackie said, you think he'd have an affordability problem?
You think he'd have a lack of housing problem if half of the visa holders had their visas pulled?
steve bannon
I don't know.
unidentified
Let's say Monday morning, people go, oh gosh, Steve, the consumer economy would collapse.
Let's take a gamble.
Let's pull them.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
Let's take down the CCP.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Okay, it's a day of winning, but a day also that I think we have to keep in mind what our strategy is.
Right there is a live shot of John Bolton's driveway in his house in suburban Maryland.
I think it's in Bethesda.
There are a whole team of FBI agents there, and they are obviously been there since early this morning.
So it's a quite thorough raid on his home, his papers, computer, all of it.
Like I said, this was about the book initially started, as Kash Patel alluded to, on an early investigation that was dropped about the book, The Room Where It Happened.
That book was about the time of John Bolton as national security advisor to the President of the United States.
Of course, they fought because he's a neocons neocon.
And let's be honest, he was put in there by donors around President Trump that demanded he go in after the disaster of McMasters.
A horrible neocon.
He recommended many the big strike into Persia that President Trump stopped at the last second the missile strike.
steve bannon
President Trump literally stopped it, I think, with minutes to go because it said it lacked proportionality.
unidentified
And they went at it every day after that.
Like I said, this is going to have massive repercussions through the national security environment.
I think it shows you that cash and people over the FBI in the Justice Department because Justice had to sign off on this, Maine Justice.
So we're going to spend a lot of time.
steve bannon
Jack Pasovic is going to join me in the next hour.
We're going to break this all down on the implications, not simply for John Bolton's time at the White House, but in current events, particularly in Ukraine, in the war in Gaza, and, of course, the potential coming war against the Persians, all of that.
unidentified
Maximalist strategy.
Jackie Toboroff, you've had an eyewitness, and I still don't think, and we played last night, and I want to give a compliment to the Warren Posse.
People came from all over.
There were posse members that came as far away as Albany to go to Naomi Wolf's, her gathering of these remarkable young candidates that are popping up in Brooklyn and other boroughs throughout Manhattan to fight this takeover.
Jackie, as you have pointed out from the beginning, the Red-Green Alliance, which you have these dedicated Marxists and neo-Marxists combined with radical jihadists.
People have to understand, this is not about socialism.
If somebody's talking about socialism, they're missing the point.
steve bannon
This is radical, this is Marxism, this Red-Green Alliance.
They're going to turn New York into the next London.
unidentified
And you've seen what Sadiq Khan has done in London, and this is why, you know, they went back the other day and the UK, which Pasovic and I will talk about in the next hour, went back and said, hey, upon further review, we really don't have the troops to send to Ukraine.
You're damn right you don't have the troops because you're going to have a civil war on your hands in England.
On Canary Wharf overnight, they put up, they called Hoisting the Colors.
They're putting up the St. George flag.
They're putting up the union jack through Canary Wharf because the government of Sadiq Khan does not want to see British cause.
They're saying it's offensive to people.
It causes my, it's a microaggression, etc.
You're going to see this in New York, and you're already starting to see some of it.
People are stunned on my getter feed, the getter crowd's a little more sophisticated, but so many people were coming in and calling me, didn't know they had 55 million, 55 million visa holders in the United States of America.
Jackie, they've started at the universities.
The universities, to me, and I agree with you, are the cutting edge of this of how to start and roll this back besides the H-1B visas.
And we're going to get to the truckers in a second.
Talk to me about your take on the universities.
What are we underwriting and how do we stop this madness, ma'am?
I will.
Just one thing.
New York City is 40%, 4-0%, quote, immigrant.
That is according to Eric Adams.
jackie toboroff
It's probably higher than that.
unidentified
So we absolutely need the illegal aliens out and these visas, these 55 million visa holders, if they are not here illegally, they need to leave.
So this is the real issue with these universities.
jackie toboroff
Only 39% of college-age Americans, that's between 18 and 24, even go to colleges and universities.
And this is because it is not affordable to them.
unidentified
And the kicker is they are paying with their hard-earned money, they are paying for specialized admissions processes to vet international students according to a criteria completely unaffiliated with America.
In addition to the fact that these schools are pretty much all need blind, that means there is no such thing as international students having to pay full price.
Taxpayers subsidize this.
jackie toboroff
They get the exact same financial aid benefits as American citizens.
unidentified
So Americans get screwed twice.
jackie toboroff
First for paying for the specialized admissions process and then for paying for this financial aid to be lavished on international students.
unidentified
And quite frankly, now we see many of the best and brightest, according to the left, are actually criminals and supporters of Islamist terrorists.
I'll also say just one other thing.
You're also saying that.
Yeah, but hang on a second.
I want to go back.
You said that it's underwritten by Arab oil nations and the Chinese Communist Party.
steve bannon
Explain that.
unidentified
Yeah, the Arab oil nations and Qatar have given $29 billion to college campuses.
Saudi Arabia has given approximately $2 billion.
This is not charity.
jackie toboroff
This is transactional influence buying and ideological capture.
This is so that the people within these universities serve those countries, the Arab oil nations and the CCP, not America.
unidentified
The issue is not completely stopping international students from coming.
jackie toboroff
It's being honest about the best and the brightest.
unidentified
And we're seeing that that is a lie.
The other thing is, I saw somewhere, and this is anecdotal, but the class of 2025, approximately 30% of these Americans cannot even find jobs.
So, I mean, something has to be done.
Americans are getting undercut by these international students.
By the way, I'm much hardercore.
I think for initially all the foreign students, all visas ought to be stopped for foreign students until we find out that American students can get jobs.
This is about American citizens and American kids.
Jackie, you're on fire there in Manhattan.
Where do people go to find out more about you?
steve bannon
What's your social media feed, ma'am?
unidentified
Okay, my Instagram is Jacqueline4NYC.
That is J-H-C-Q-U-E-L-I-N-E-F-O-R-N-Y-C.
And my sub stack is Supermoms Activated.
I'm active on the.
Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am.
Keep fighting.
Okay, the maximalist strategy.
You got to do it.
You only got one chance to save this country.
And I'm very honored.
We're going to take a short break.
We're going to leave you with the right stuff.
We're going to come back with people that have the right stuff.
The truckers that brought to our attention what's going on in this country about having folks that can't even speak or read English.
Foreign drivers that were dominating the trucking industry.
steve bannon
It looks like that's going to stop.
And the reason is you in this audience and these great patriots about to join us.
unidentified
Also, Jack Pasovic.
We're going to go from Ukraine to Gaza to Persia, all of it.
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