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Episode 4715: Trump Meets With Heads Of EU; Keeping American Independence
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
First, they hate nationalism, they hate populism, they hate MAGA, they particularly hate President Trump because he's the leader of our movement and he can't be beaten, right?
unidentified
If he's on the ticket, they can't beat us.
So Swalwell called him after everything President Trump is doing, after everything President Trump did in Alaska, convening something, as you know, Eric, has not been done since the Second World War to bring these heads of the governments over to try to talk peace.
steve bannon
Swalwell calls him yesterday on MSNBC.
unidentified
I guess he's a Russian asset.
This guy's a Russian asset.
steve bannon
So you can't please him.
unidentified
You can do anything you want.
And President Trump right now is trying to move heaven and earth to get peace.
steve bannon
It's never going to please him.
I would say pox on both their houses, cut the money off, and you'll get cut the money off and you'll have peace pretty quickly.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's your show, Steve.
Good to talk to you, my friend.
Happy Monday.
Eric, always great.
Thank you so much.
Lively conversation.
Thank you for bringing up Comey because that thing on Taylor Swift is very disturbing.
We're going to go right to, here's what we're going to do.
We have breaking news out of the White House.
Our own Jack Pasovic is right there.
Poso only can do this.
What did he do?
steve bannon
What did he do a few minutes ago?
unidentified
Well, Steve, we're seeing just two pieces.
jack posobiec
Number one, I'm hearing that the meeting, the multi-lad, has ended with the various heads of state from the EU as well as the European Commission.
But just before the end of the meeting was originally scheduled to run until about, we're way beyond schedule, put it that way.
We're way past the schedule today.
He interrupted the meeting to make a phone call right there in the middle of the meeting with all of the heads of state there to Vladimir Putin.
unidentified
And we're waiting to see whether or not he stepped aside to make that meeting or to make that phone call to Putin directly.
Originally, we were told that he was going to call Putin after the meeting.
He called Putin in the middle of the meeting.
And it wouldn't surprise me, Steve, if he put him on speakerphone for everyone around that table in the East Room to hear.
steve bannon
So let me get this right.
unidentified
The big meeting with everybody is about to finish.
steve bannon
And folks, here's how we're going to play it.
unidentified
We're going to call some Audibles here in the five to seven hour.
We're going to go immediately, immediately when there's something to report with these guys coming out.
We'll cut right to the take the feed.
steve bannon
Our own Brian Glenn is there, but he's tied up.
I think he's out with the president right now.
unidentified
Are you saying that at the end of the meeting, it culminated?
Is this President Trump wanting to get on the books the three-party meeting he wants to have on Friday?
Or is this to kind of run some ideas by him?
steve bannon
Is this to talk about the land swap?
Because the land swap looked like the most complicated part of it.
unidentified
We'll talk about the security guarantees in a minute, but the land swap looked like it was quite complicated and would take a while for those guys to digest.
Do you think he got him on for substance or for scheduling?
Well, Steve, I think it's probably a little bit of both.
I mean, keep in mind, we're hearing back and forth that the president, and I was able to report this in real time from Air Force One, the president is making phone calls all the time to all of these various leaders, whether it be Zelensky, whether it be Putin, whether it be the NATO leaders.
Yes, he's there.
We have the pomp and circumstance, which is taking place behind us with this multilateral meeting, but he's constantly working the phones just like he did when he was a businessman there on Fifth Avenue.
And so this, again and again and again, is he's making these negotiations as events run in real time.
And it wouldn't surprise me, though, if the territory is coming down on this because, look, that's something that Putin brought up in Anchorage.
jack posobiec
We were there at the Anchorage Accords on Friday, and he made the point to say we would be willing to forego, where was it, Zaporizhia and Hair Son, up to and including what?
unidentified
The Dneper River in order to secure the peace deal now.
jack posobiec
That's something the Russian side was saying they were willing and able to do.
But Steve, on the security guarantee, we also heard earlier from the Kremlin: no American troops.
unidentified
That was something the Kremlin came out and said hard no to.
Well, hang on.
steve bannon
That's where I don't understand.
unidentified
How did Witkoff go on television and say yesterday on Jake Tapper?
steve bannon
As you know, as soon as Witkoff said it, I'm blowing up Jack Pesobic's phone.
I got Jack on the phone.
unidentified
Go, what in the hell's going on here?
How did Witkoffs say that?
jack posobiec
I was in the middle of Mass.
unidentified
My priest goes, what's going on with Pesobic over there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack, how did that?
Because what Steve said is that in Friday in Anchorage, they got basically acknowledgement by the Russians that, and they call it a big win.
You and I wouldn't call it a big win.
steve bannon
They said a big win for having an American security guarantee, which would obviously, there's no security guarantee without some sort of occupation troops is nothing.
unidentified
So they had to bounce that off him.
How did the Kremlin come out today?
How did the KGB come out today and say that's absolutely a non-starter?
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, that really is going to come down to these questions.
unidentified
There was even an issue with the translation that I was told over the weekend that in the room, they were using this in real-time translator that Putin said the word agreement, that Putin kept reaching saying this word agreement.
Then I go back home and I asked Tanya Tay, I said, how come he kept saying the word agreement, yet they came out and said anything?
She said that wasn't the word agreement.
jack posobiec
She said that was the word understanding.
unidentified
He said, we came to an understanding on certain things, which is very different, especially in a diplomatic context such as this, than saying the word agreement.
So I don't know if this was a translation thing or something else like that, but certainly the Kremlin coming out today saying hard no full stop to American troops in Ukraine.
So I want to, the mainstream media, as much as President Trump's doing, and Jack, give us a sense of the extraordinary nature of having all these heads of major allied powers with Zelensky.
You have him there, and he's just getting eviscerated on MSNBC and CNN for all the good work he's doing.
Nothing Trump can do.
I mean, this is back to the Rush Limbaugh.
steve bannon
You can give them everything that they want, and it's still not good enough.
unidentified
I mean, he's getting beaten up, and you can see he's had enough of it because his truth social post overnight and early this morning showed you he'd had a belly full of it, sir.
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, you mentioned CNN and the other network.
unidentified
I think you mean MS Now, because MS Now is the name of that other network.
MSNBC doesn't exist anymore.
It's MS Now.
It's such a great reband.
I'm sure it's going to work very well for Joe and Mika and all the rest.
jack posobiec
But no, Steve, what we're seeing is what we're seeing is these guys, look, look, they want the war.
They want the war because they want the war for their ratings.
Peace is no good for ratings.
unidentified
Peace is no good for any of this.
They don't want it.
And because, here's the dirty little secret: they don't want to have to give the acknowledgement that Donald Trump was the one to actually get this done.
jack posobiec
He got it in the ring.
unidentified
He was the one who was willing to have a sit-down meeting with Vladimir Putin.
He was then on the very heels of that, picked up the phone, called Vladimir Zelensky.
jack posobiec
Now he's got him here at the White House.
unidentified
By the way, Steve, even in World War II, we never had a meeting like this of all the Allied powers like we're having here at the White House.
jack posobiec
It's just never been seen.
It's never been done before where we've seen something like this.
unidentified
President Trump said that he had his team going through the archives of the White House all the way back to 1799 to see if they could find any example of all of this amount of world leaders, this amount of European leaders coming to the White House.
Couldn't find one.
So you've never seen anything like it.
By the way, the press just, I mean, you could say it's down to the line here.
But even in the rain, Steve, there are hundreds and hundreds of members of the press here.
By the way, something else that no one's ever going to give them credit for.
The press team, Carolyn Levitt, Steven Chung, Alex Pfeiffer, all the rest of the folks on the press team, all the way from top to bottom.
They have the entire thing buttoned up.
They have the entire situation going, and they've allowed more access than a Biden administration or an Obama administration ever would.
I played a clip about how much press is there.
It's unbelievable.
A shout out to Susie Wiles and the White House staff.
A shout out to the logistics operation of the White House communication and to the comm shop.
This is in the last four years.
steve bannon
I mean, these are historic.
Like you said, during the height of World War II, you might go to Cairo or Tehran and have the top, the big four, the top three, which is a logistics nightmare, but you never had, you know, even post-war, in the Cold War, Germany, France, Italy, the United Kingdom come in for something on the spur of the moment that's dealing in war and peace on a battlefield.
unidentified
And I think you see now why Putin didn't agree to ceasefire.
He wants to keep the pressure on.
And, Steve, who was it that's really been in charge of all the public diplomacy here?
And that's, of course, the great ambassador Monica Crowley, so great friend of the war room, someone who's really been at the forefront of all of this.
Even someone, I believe, coined the phrase, reverse Nixon.
Talk to me a second.
So we had, it was interesting.
steve bannon
We had the chaperones, as we call them, showed up first, and Monica greeted them on the South Lawn one at a time.
They went in and held.
unidentified
And then Zelensky shows up at one.
steve bannon
So that was 12 noon as we left.
unidentified
One o'clock, Zelensky shows up.
Immediately, they go into the oval.
And of course, President Trump has a press avail right there where our own Brian Glenn is a major participant.
And then they go to the East Dining, to the official dining room, and they have that live.
And President Trump does it first.
He has a press avail right there where he's talking and lets every world leader talk.
And then he comes in and starts having the press.
I mean, it's been a pretty intense day.
steve bannon
And you're saying when they went behind closed doors where they may have wrapped up right now, we're going to jump to that as soon as we know anything.
unidentified
But he might have actually gotten Putin on the phone and did a readout to Putin of where we stand.
I think that if anything, if he got President Putin on the phone, I think it was probably to hammer out some of the disputes.
Because what did we hear?
And Steve, I actually called you right after that meeting when we walked out of the multi-lat that they kept saying, well, that's going to be determined by the trilateral meeting.
jack posobiec
So they kept saying over and over and over as he went around the room to mayors, to Maloney, to Kier Stahmer, to all the rest, Alex Stubb, to all the rest, and even Zelensky, they said, well, we're not going to know until we sit down with President Putin, until we sit down with Putin.
unidentified
And you could tell that President Trump was getting a little frustrated when he kept hearing that.
He said, well, look, if that's the guy that I'm supposed to talk to, then why don't we just get him on the phone?
And that's exactly what he did right in the middle of the meeting, breaking all diplomatic protocol.
He doesn't care about the rules.
He doesn't care.
jack posobiec
He's writing them himself.
He cares about the deal.
He cares about getting peace, and he cares about stopping the killing, the killing that I saw on the ground there in 2022, the killing that we've seen all the way up to and continues even now on these front lines.
unidentified
Before we go to break, Jack, let's take a second and go to that.
steve bannon
You've seen the killing up front and personal.
unidentified
You took one of those long train rides.
You've been to Odessa, which should not be lost on people.
The Russians failed to take.
steve bannon
Given where the battle lines are right now, where the Russian army is right now, compared to this big dispute of the territories, where do you see?
unidentified
Is Putin showing any give it all or is he asking this all from the Ukrainians, sir?
Well, Steve, what I would say to everyone on this is to understand that in the Russian political system, Vladimir Putin sits in the middle because there are people to his heart, right, that are saying, What are you doing sitting down with the Americans?
What are you doing even agreeing to one of these things, which they've blown through in the past, whether it be the Budapest memorandum, whether it be Minsk one, whether it be Minsk II?
You need to sit down there, take all the way up to and including Odessa, the entire coastline, and then maybe, maybe allow them to have a bit of a rump state.
jack posobiec
So there's a huge hard line in Russia that's actually against these talks because they want them to go the whole way and you're saying right now, I mean, but realistically, as the IDF is in Gaza, you know, quite worn out and really saying, hey, we don't know if we can actually finish this and particularly do an occupation.
steve bannon
Can the Russian army, given the fact of how many casualties they've taken?
unidentified
I think they gave an official count I heard today of 950,000.
That's kind of the now official number.
It's not just something speculated.
Can the Russian army, is there much more oomph there?
steve bannon
I know they'll throw more bodies at it, but is there much more power in back of that?
unidentified
Well, Steve, that all depends on what their rules of engagement are in terms of the conflict.
jack posobiec
Look, when I was there in 2022, and I understand that it's been similar this way, there's trains that are still running, there's power systems that are still running, cell phone service that's still up in vast parts of Ukraine.
unidentified
So this has been a different kind of fight for the Russians because they still do view Ukraine as sort of their cousins, as is something that you hear from the Russians a lot.
jack posobiec
This is very different from the way that they fought, for example, in Chechnya, which absolutely was that hard scrabble, tooth and nail kind of fighting with massive aerial bombardments.
unidentified
Jack, if you can hang on just for a few minutes, take a short commercial break.
We're going to get you out of the weather.
So we think the multi-lat is over.
We believe that actually the president may have made Putin part of that, at least towards the end of it.
steve bannon
Maybe that's scheduling for this Friday meeting.
unidentified
That the president's adamant.
He's done enough deals in his life.
Motion is progress.
He wants to keep deal momentum going.
We'll get a read out of that.
We'll also, as soon as anybody breaks, in fact, we'll take a short commercial break.
As soon as anything pops up, the president comes out, we'll cut right a commercial break and come to it.
We got Jack Pasovic at the White House who's covered this for the last couple of years nonstop and was in Alaska on Friday.
steve bannon
Of course, our own Brian Glenn.
unidentified
Brian got a question, and I thought a great question in today in the oval in the Bilat.
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Jack, you got a bolt in two.
Give me your summary observations, sir.
Maybe we'll get you later by phone.
Well, that's right, Steven.
Yeah, I'll be able to call in if possible.
We've got a lot of moving parts here today.
But the fact that President Trump brought Putin into the meeting, I mean, think of this.
They had this policy.
Remember the policy at the beginning of the war, do not talk to Putin.
Macron had done this series of shuttle diplomacy over with Putin.
The long table, remember that?
jack posobiec
They've cut him off completely, tried to isolate him as much as possible.
President Trump then turning around and basically making them all eat their vegetables and say, you know what?
unidentified
We're not doing a deal without Putin.
And Macron himself said at one point that regardless of what we want, regardless of what we would like the world to be, no matter what, we are a peninsula and at the other end of the continent of Europe is Russia.
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Thanks, Steve.
Okay, thank you, brother.
steve bannon
Okay, let's go to our cold open to get you up to speed of what happened today.
unidentified
There have been some absolutely major shifts.
The idea that Ukraine's going to achieve complete victory, that idea has collapsed within Ukrainian society.
What are we talking about here?
harry enten
Ukrainians on the war versus Russia.
unidentified
You go back to 2022, the start of the war.
harry enten
Fight until Ukraine wins.
unidentified
Look at this.
The vast majority, about three-quarters, 73%, agreed with that position.
harry enten
Negotiate to end the war as soon as possible.
Only 22%.
unidentified
Look at where we are now.
harry enten
It's a complete flip.
unidentified
It's the inverse.
harry enten
Now, 69% want to negotiate to end the war as soon as possible, compared to just 24% who want to fight until Ukraine wins.
That's a 49-point drop in this position.
unidentified
Now, of course, negotiating to end the war as soon as possible, that's a bit more nuanced, right?
harry enten
Ukrainians don't want to agree to all of Russia's demand, but I think the idea of even there being some territory that would be not formally recognized as being given that Russia could, in fact, stay in, that does have majority support.
unidentified
But the idea of formal recognition of Russia's demands, absolutely not.
Your team has talked about security guarantees.
donald j trump
Could that involve U.S. troops?
unidentified
Would you roll that out in the future?
We'll let you know that maybe later today.
donald j trump
We're meeting with seven great leaders of great countries, also, and we'll be talking about that.
unidentified
They'll all be involved, but there'll be a lot of help.
When it comes to security, there's going to be a lot of help.
donald j trump
It's going to be good.
unidentified
They are a first line of defense because they're there.
They're here.
But we're going to help them out also.
donald j trump
We'll be involved.
ivo daalder
Well, her role as the head of the European Union is critical to reassure Ukraine that it is going to be a part of the West.
unidentified
And by the way, if Ukraine becomes a member of the European Union, it gets security guarantees.
Under the treaty that it will have to sign in order to become part of it, all of the NATO, the EU members, are actually committed to the mutual defense of each other.
And if Ukraine is a member of the EU, that means mutual defense of Ukraine by all the EU countries.
Now, that includes Germany, it includes France, it includes many of the Nordic countries, includes Poland, does not include the United Kingdom, but it is a step forward.
I do want to comment for a minute on those security guarantees because I don't know what an Article V-like security guarantee is that is not actually NATO.
And we should be very clear that there is a big difference between a statement that says we will come to your defense and an organization and being a member of an organization that exists to make sure that coming to your defense is actually possible and is actually likely through an integrated command structure, having agreed procedures and decision-making authority as part of being in the alliance.
ivo daalder
So I'm very skeptical, one, that Mr. Putin accepts anything like an Article V guarantee.
But number two, I'm very skeptical that the United States is willing to provide NATO-like guarantees, which is basically the best way to do that, is through NATO.
unidentified
And I think that is one of the issues that will be clarified, that President Zielinski will try to clarify, which hopefully Secretary General of NATO Mark Rutte will clarify, and the other European leaders.
When you talk security assurances, Mr. President, what do you have in mind?
ivo daalder
Are you willing to go to war to defend Ukraine if there's a ceasefire?
donald j trump
Well, thank you very much.
It's a great honor to have you here.
unidentified
Special place, White House is special no matter where you're from.
donald j trump
Represents so much, and it really is beautiful.
And thank you for all of the wonderful things that took place today.
unidentified
We've had a very successful day thus far.
Important discussions as we work to end the killing and stop the war in Ukraine.
donald j trump
We're all working for the same goal.
unidentified
Very simple goal.
donald j trump
We want to stop the killing, get this settled.
unidentified
I've just had the honor of being with President Zelensky and all of the discussions that we've had.
donald j trump
We covered a lot of territory.
unidentified
And I spoke indirectly with President Putin today.
We're going to call President Putin right after this meeting.
I'm sure we're going to have a solid meeting, good meeting, maybe a great meeting.
And we're going to try and work out a tri-lat after that and see if we can get it finished, put this to sleep, because this is not since the Second World War has there been anything like this.
Can Europe stand up and guarantee the safety of Ukraine without the United States, Julian?
With great difficulty.
I mean, it can probably help Ukraine to be defensive to some degree, but really there is a requirement right now for America to be involved as much as anything about sharing the satellite intelligence.
gillian tett
That's one of the key things, and providing the long-range missiles, and also the defensive systems to guard against the incoming Russian ballistic missiles.
unidentified
It's worth pointing out, I mean, I have the Ukrainian air alert app on my phone because I've been back and forth to Kiev quite a bit and I'm going next month.
And the level of attacks from Russia in the last few days has really escalated.
So the idea that Putin is seeking peace does sound pretty hollow to most Ukrainians.
gillian tett
It's also worth pointing out that the thing that really haunts the Ukrainians and some of the Europeans is the memories of Chechnya.
unidentified
Because Russia went into Chechnya, and I was actually in the former Soviet Union at the time.
gillian tett
Russia went into Chechnya once, they flattened it, they went withdrew and seemed to create some kind of peace.
unidentified
And then a year or two later, they went in again and flattened it all over again and really took control.
And Russia has a whole military doctrine of creating armies that are designed for wars of attrition.
You know, the long history of Russian military involvement is that they often lose battles initially, but they just hang in there after losing enormous numbers of men and soldiers.
They hang in there and just keep grinding forward over many years.
And President Putin is playing that playbook out all over again.
And that is what has concerned Europe so much.
And that is exactly why the security guarantees matter so deeply.
Because history suggests there's every chance that for Putin, what's going on is just a chance to buy himself a bit more time.
Remember, the Russian economy right now is under serious stress because of the war.
He will buy himself a bit of time and then come back again a few years later.
And that's why security guarantees are critical.
And I think it is an important day, a new phase.
After three years and a half that we didn't see any kind of sign from the Russian side that there was a willing for dialogue.
giorgia meloni
So something is changing.
unidentified
Something has changed.
Thanks to you.
Thanks also to the staling in the battlefield, which was achieved with the bravery of Ukrainians and with the unity that we all provided to Ukraine.
And the reason why I mention it is that we also have to remind that if we want to reach peace and if we want to guarantee justice, we have to do it united.
So that's why it's a very good day, the one we are in.
You can obviously count on Italy as it was from the beginning.
giorgia meloni
We are on the side of Ukraine and we do absolutely support your efforts towards peace.
unidentified
We will talk about many important topics.
giorgia meloni
The first one is security guarantees, how to be sure that it won't happen again, which is the precondition of every kind of peace.
unidentified
I'm happy that we will discuss about that.
I'm happy that we will begin from a proposal, which is the, let's say, Article 5 model, which was Italian at the beginning.
giorgia meloni
So we are always ready to bring our proposals for peace, for dialogue.
unidentified
It's something we have to build together to guarantee peace and to defend the security of our nation.
giorgia meloni
So thank you, Mr. President, for hosting us.
unidentified
The message to Vladimir Putin.
kimberly dozier
The message is that they are standing firm defending Ukraine, including at least two of them promising to put troops on the ground to make sure that Russia can't invade again without also attacking NATO members.
unidentified
Not NATO, but troops of NATO members.
One of the most important things that Ukraine needs right now in terms of this, as Steve Witkoff had described it over the weekend, an Article 5-like agreement, they need European troops on the ground and backing from Europe that if Russia invades, they will defend Ukraine.
kimberly dozier
The U.S. had troops on the ground inside Ukraine.
They were U.S. special operations trainers.
unidentified
They had intelligence officers on the ground in Ukraine in 2022, but they pulled them all out.
Basically, the U.S. has to bless whatever Europe is willing to do to save Ukraine and the rest of itself for its own security.
Did anybody ever talk about that right there, about the trainers being there?
steve bannon
Okay, we're getting word.
Zelensky has, in a WhatsApp thread, told some reporters and NBC newsers reporting that the multi-lat, which is called this group meeting, has broken up.
unidentified
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Okay, folks, the multilat is supposed to have ended.
We're going to go right to the White House as soon as they come out and address or talk to anybody.
I've also got Brian Harrison who's going to join us here, hopefully momentarily from Texas.
Big development down there today.
But let's go to these last couple of clips of what we've been warning about.
And this is how you've been lied and misled the entire time about this war of what we were banging on the table a couple of years ago and telling you what reality is now that they're in the sense of, oh, yeah, well, let's get the lines drawn and all this and make sure we get the American troop guarantee and the American trillion-dollar redevelopment guarantee.
Then now we can let the truth out.
Let's go ahead and play these clips that happened this afternoon.
kimberly dozier
The message to Vladimir Putin.
unidentified
The message is that they are standing firm defending Ukraine, including at least two of them promising to put troops on the ground to make sure that Russia can't invade again without also attacking NATO members.
kimberly dozier
Not NATO, but troops of NATO members.
unidentified
One of the most important things that Ukraine needs right now in terms of this, as Steve Witkoff had described it over the weekend, an Article 5-like agreement, they need European troops on the ground and backing from Europe that if Russia invades, they will defend Ukraine.
kimberly dozier
The U.S. had troops on the ground inside Ukraine.
unidentified
They were U.S. special operations trainers.
kimberly dozier
They had intelligence officers on the ground in Ukraine in 2022, but they pulled them all out.
unidentified
Basically, the U.S. has to bless whatever Europe is willing to do to save Ukraine and the rest of itself for its own security.
That Kim cited it becomes a three-year or less type dynamic.
They have to not only prepare to deploy forces into Ukraine, but they also have to shore up their defenses on the, especially on the Eastern Flank.
So that means the Baltic states, Poland, especially Romania.
Those countries are going to have to really be prepared to defend their territory on their own, at least for the first few moments of any type of conflict, any type of shooting war potentially between them and the Russians.
They just have to be prepared for that.
There you got it right there in all its glory.
I believe as much as there's been this loose talk about security guarantees and American troops and President Trump not waving it off, if you really look at what he's saying, they're putting pressure on him.
This is everything.
He's kind of saying, well, let's discuss that.
And the media jumps on immediately, oh, he's not denying it.
So there's a long way to go between the cup and the lip here, particularly on the basics of the basics of these land swaps.
I will tell you one of the big things they talked about today, Republicans getting on board.
A report the other day it was $36 billion.
steve bannon
It's $54 billion.
unidentified
Another bailout of Ukraine.
$54 billion arms package plus money so that they pay their teachers and they pay their public health workers and they pay the pensions.
You've got a big old nice pension.
You sitting on a fat pension?
How's that Social Security check look?
Is that a big old fat pension that you've got coming to you?
Yeah, hey, yo, folks under 30 years old, you got that big pension you're looking out there in your golden years to have?
No.
No, you do not.
Yet we're paying pensions for the guys in Ukraine.
And now they're talking about a $54 billion.
We're going to get all over that in the next couple of days.
Trust me.
steve bannon
We'll man up on that one.
unidentified
Make sure we blow that thing up like we blew up Mitch McConnell and took Mitch McConnell down on this last massive Ukraine package.
steve bannon
It's absolutely sick.
unidentified
If you look at the economic numbers, they're good.
They're not great yet.
steve bannon
One of the reasons is massive federal spending.
unidentified
The way you get control of massive federal spending, let me think.
Hang on, wait for it.
steve bannon
Oh, the defense budget.
unidentified
We can't be the world's policeman and pay for it, right?
It's bad enough being the world's policeman, but they ain't paying the cop.
The cop's paying for the privilege of being the world's policeman.
It doesn't wash anymore.
steve bannon
We don't have that flexibility.
unidentified
So we're going to get Brian Harrison up here in a moment.
As soon as they break, as soon as they break, we'll go to it.
They've had the multi-lat, and Zelensky's told NBC News that, and I think also Sky TV is reporting it's over.
Remember, President Trump came in here in the, if you look at the deal process, the next benchmark he wanted to hit was to come out of here with a consensus enough of at least some general package that they could approach Putin and get what he calls a trilateral meeting, which is himself, Zelensky, and Putin, as early as this Friday.
We do understand they have made contact from the meeting itself that President Trump stepped out, I think, to talk to President Putin, and I think they may have come back and even gotten him on the blower.
steve bannon
Don't know the details.
unidentified
We'll get to that, but they are obviously President Trump's a big believer in motionless progress in deals, which is often very true.
If you get momentum, you can normally get something done.
You just got to make sure you're getting the right deal done as the European elites try to bail.
And what really galls me about Maloney, they are, I think, the last in the pack for getting to the 2%.
Forget the 5%.
steve bannon
These people never get to 5%.
unidentified
That's all I've promised because they'd have to cut into the pensions of their people.
They'd have to cut into their six-week holidays, right, over end of July, August, all the way up to September.
They have to cut into all that.
steve bannon
So that ain't happening.
unidentified
And if they do it, it'll be climate change and women's health care and everything will be in there except for weapons, interoperability, all of that.
Do we have a cold open for Brian Harrison?
Let's go ahead and play the cold open.
steve bannon
Like I said, as soon as any movement at the White House, we're going to punch out of it and go right to the White House.
unidentified
Let's go ahead and play the cold open for Brian Harrison.
nicolle wallace
The Democratic lawmakers from the state of Texas have returned home after a weeks-long standoff with Republicans there over their blatantly partisan redistricting effort that comes at the request of Donald Trump.
unidentified
They had prevented Texas Republicans from passing this redrawn map during a first special legislative session, and their efforts likely spurred California Democrats to counter the Republican effort with their own redistricting proposal.
But now a second special session has been called, and with enough Democrats present, Republicans will be able to advance their new mid-decade map.
The chair of the Texas House Democrats said this in a statement, quote, we killed the corrupt special session, withstood unprecedented surveillance and intimidation, and rallied Democrats nationwide to join this existential fight for fair representation, reshaping the entire 2026 landscape.
We are returning to Texas, more dangerous to Republicans' plans than when we left.
Our return allows us to build the legal record necessary to defeat this racist map in court, take our message to communities across the state and country, and inspire others how to fight these undemocratic redistricting schemes in their own state houses.
I've got Brian Harrison by phone.
Brian, we're talking the Texas 10.
steve bannon
So I assume today, sir, they stripped them of their seniority.
unidentified
They stripped them of their offices.
They took their parking spots away.
They levied huge fines.
They began the process of vacating their seats.
steve bannon
So all of those actions that we were promised took place today when these recalcitrant, cowardly Democrats showed back up.
unidentified
Is that what you're going to report to me?
That's what you're going to tell the Worm Posse this afternoon?
You know, I can see, Steve, you have a very vivid imagination.
Yeah, all of the things that Governor, it was literally two weeks ago today, the governor issued his threat.
Any Democrat who doesn't show up at 3 p.m. loses their job, gets booted out of the legislature.
brian harrison
That was three weeks ago, two weeks ago today.
unidentified
Zero Democrats had their seats vacated.
brian harrison
They all came back to their parking spots, which were waiting there for them, and their staff and their keys to their offices and the floor.
unidentified
And they were welcomed back with hugs.
Hugs from the House leadership team on the floor hugging the Democrats.
No, I actually, for as low as I hold these, the corrupt leadership of the Texas House, I was actually, I was expecting some punishment drama.
I thought we'd have some fake punishments.
They didn't even bother.
brian harrison
He just welcomed the ball back in, said that we need to move on and get back to the people's business and don't call each other any names.
unidentified
Let's be nice.
Let's be kind.
And then you're not going to get, you're not going to believe this one.
brian harrison
Not only did zero Democrats get punished, okay, not one seat vacated, not one arrest.
unidentified
And by the way, the warrants were supposedly still out when they all showed up to the Capitol.
I mean, they're like, you know, right there with DPS troopers, not one arrest, not one seniority, not one committees, you know, whatever.
Worse, the unimaginable.
He is rewarding at least one.
He has prioritized the bill of one of the radical Democrats that broke quorum.
I'm passing over just about every other elected Republican to allow this Democrat who just broke quorum for the last two weeks to prioritize getting a Democrat bill passed.
It's House Bill 10, meaning it's the 10th highest priority for the Speaker, a Democrat bill, over the 88 Republicans in the Texas House.
So not only are there no punishments happening, they're being rewarded.
And then I will know for a fact in about 18 minutes.
But in 18 minutes, we may officially see the white flag of surrender go up on the biggest issue.
The only punishment I really care about at this point is playing hardball with the Democrats and adding more Republican seats to the map because that's what that's hitting them where it hurts.
brian harrison
That's doing what the voters of Texas want to have done.
That's real action.
unidentified
That's tangible.
But the map was refiled.
And unfortunately, it appears that the leadership of the state of Texas is going to go full surrender and refile maps that only add five new Republican seats.
When you know, Steve, we need minimum seven, but we need seven, eight, nine, ten, whatever.
It looks like the leadership of Texas is going to refile the maps and it's only going to have five new Republican seats.
Total disgrace.
Well, how could that possibly be when Governor Abbott was on Fox talking big talk like he normally does?
You know, the big Texas talk, the big Texas talker, he said there was going to be, he agreed with you.
He kind of ripped it.
Either it was an homage to you or he ripped you off saying that every week they were out, he was going to add a seat that would at least give us a minimum of seven, would it not, Brian Harrison?
Yeah, they were gone two weeks, so I was out there screaming, and you and the posse love it.
You know, they were helping us out here.
For every one week the Democrats were gone, you know, forget the parking spots, you know, and their stupid paychecks and newsletter paper checks and newsletters, which, by the way, he's going to pay them in full, probably with direct deposit, and they're going to get their newsletters back.
Only five new seats.
Meanwhile, and you just played in the cold open the chair of the House Democrat caucus, Gene Wu, who as we speak, Steve, Texas Americans, get your posse.
As we speak, the chairman of the House Democrat caucus, who spent two weeks behind Pritzker and Newsom, he is still on the redistricting committee, and the Republican leadership in Texas does not appear to be adding any new maps, even though by the governor's own admission, we may have nine or ten that we could go get.
This is complete surrender, which is what I'm sick and tired of happening.
And the bright red 14-point landslide re-electing President Trump state of Texas, Texas should be leading the nation in terms of bold Republican priorities and beating back the left.
We got the white flag of surrender.
It's about to be hoisted up in the Texas House in 15 minutes from now.
I'll know for sure.
But they filed the map, and the map they filed, it does have some changes, but not one new Republican seat.
That's the ultimate betrayal.
And that's the only punishment, as far as I'm concerned, right now, that really matters for the people of Texas.
They're not going to do the other stuff.
Here's what we'd like to do: let you continue on your journey.
Give us your Twitter because you pick up followers every time, and it's an amazing Twitter feed as you kind of give the actual reporting from the Capitol in Austin.
And then in 15 minutes, when you actually get the readout, if you can call back in, I'll put you right up and we'll talk about what we need to do to get to Texas 10.
If they're not acquiescing now, what we need to do to do that, because I don't think they understand how smash mouth Gavin Newsom is going to be.
So, what is your Twitter feed right now?
We should go to, Brian, and we'll get you on here in 15 or 20 minutes after they report out what the new map is.
Yeah, you got it.
Yeah, if you want to piss off a rhino today, go to the most hated Twitter feed in the Texas Capitol, Brian E. Harrison, Brian E. Harrison on X, Brian E. Harrison.
You can see, I just posted it.
I posted the ledger in the Texas House system where the so-called Republican speaker, instead of punishing the Democrats, is rewarding the Democrats with priority bills.
You can see the image of it with your own two eyes because it's one of those things that's so crazy.
If you don't see it, it's almost hard to believe that instead of being punished for breaking quorum, the Republican leadership in Texas is about to reward these Democrats.
It's unbelievable.
We'll see you in 15 minutes, sir.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Patriot Mobile, by the way, Brian, Glenn Story, and the team have done a remarkable job.
unidentified
972 Patriot.
Short commercial break.
steve bannon
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Let's take down the CCP.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Battle.
Okay, as President Trump is wont to do, he's now taken the group of leaders of Europe and he's marched them like recalcitrant school children.
And they're now in the Oval Office, and they're meeting there.
We're going to play a clip in a second about Putin, but he's in the Oval Office.
Hey, I don't, you know, the president, he calls Audibles.
It's not beyond him to call the press in and have another little briefing and get everybody up to date.
So just stand by.
Full wall-to-wall coverage here.
I think we're going to get Brian Glenn will be up in the next hour.
He'll be available.
Jack Pasovic by phone.
Brian Harrison is going to get us up to speed on what's happening in the redistricting.
steve bannon
There's so many great things going on.
President Trump's working on an executive order, even as we speak, to promulgate that out to all federal officials that he's going to officially shut down mail-in ballots.
unidentified
Hello?
Is that one we've been working on for a couple of three years?
Because Putin told him that's the way they stole it.
I don't want to say for all you machine people out there, I preach the gospel of the mail-in ballots, how they stole it.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
Anyway, I think we're going to get to the machines also, but they're definitely going to do something with the mail-in ballots.
That's happening.
West Virginia, I think, has just announced not only they sent National Guard troops over the weekend, I think they'll be sending more.
There's real support here for this lockdown on Washington, D.C., and it's had a noticeable change already in the Imperial Capitol.
Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York City are on the short list of where we go next.
We'd love to give a security guarantee to those sanctuary cities, you know, sanctuary this as U.S. troops come in there and clean those messes up.
We're going to get to all that.
steve bannon
I want to thank the folks at home, Title Lock.
unidentified
Your work, by the way, on this redistricting has been monumental.
steve bannon
It's one of the reasons that Gavin Newsome and those guys, as tough as that road is, they have structured it, they understand the Warren Posse is running the tables on this.
unidentified
I don't know.
It could be 10 to 15 seats before the mid-decade new census.
Think about that for a second.
Does that change the calculus of 2026?
steve bannon
Does that keep the Trump revolution going?
unidentified
I think so because it reflects the real demographic shifts that were not picked up by the 2020 census because of mistakes and calculation errors and algorithmic errors.
Plus, they counted all the illegal aliens.
Trump ain't going to do that.
Not going to happen.
Not going to let Commerce talk him into that again.
So actually, he didn't talk him into it, just went ahead and did their thing.
So this has now become a nationwide fight.
The Democrats are all over it.
We're formally engaged.
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Okay, let's go ahead and play a clip.
Here it's going to take us close to the break.
We're packed in the second hour.
Like I said, we're going to cut away instantaneously as soon as I guess they're in the Oval Office right now.
If they invited anybody in there, like the media, or if they break, and I'm sure President Trump will have a couple of things to say, we'll go right there.
steve bannon
Let's go ahead and play this clip about Putin.
unidentified
And we are back with breaking news from the White House where President Trump and European leaders have been meeting to find a diplomatic end to Russia's war in Ukraine.
Let's get back to seeing this.
Kristen Holmes at the White House.
What are you learning, Kristen?
Yeah, we are learning that President Trump and Vladimir Putin have spoken.
Now, it is unclear whether or not this is an ongoing phone conversation, but we do know that President Trump essentially extricated himself from the meeting with these European leaders to talk to Putin on the phone.
Now, still also unclear who called who.
Was it President Trump taking the call or deciding to reach out on his own?
Of course, as we know, President Trump has said repeatedly that Vladimir Putin was expecting his call at the end of today.
So what we have been told by a number of sources, again, is that President Trump has spoken to or is in the process of speaking to Vladimir Putin as we speak.
That is not a call that the European leaders were a part of.
Now, just to bring it full circle here, we know the European leaders, they've concluded that portion of their negotiations, which we saw them all at a table there.
They're moving into a different location.
We believe the Oval Office to finish these talks.
Unclear, again, if President Trump has rejoined them after this phone call that he's having with Putin or if that's going to be something that he does in the next couple minutes.
Sure, I love that.
Extricated himself from the meeting, go make a phone call.
He wanted to talk to somebody make decisions.
He's got the chaperones.
And remember, the chaperones are there to chaperone him.
That's what's so offensive about this.
Historic day.
I got it.
steve bannon
All the heads of Europe's there.
President Trump's running the deal.
unidentified
But he's got to talk to Putin and see what's doable, right?
Historic day.
Even as we speak, we believe they're now in the Oval Office with President Trump still holding court.
If I know President Trump, I think he might just have a couple, three reporters come in there.
steve bannon
I don't know.
unidentified
It'd be a great way to finish the day.
It'll take place in the six o'clock hour.
We got Brian Harrison is going to call back from Texas.
We're going to see exactly where we stand in that fiasco, right?
All because of fecklessness.
Also, Jack Bosobic is going to be around tracking down our own Brian Glenn.
It's a historic day in the White House.
It's a historic day in the world and in the war room.
As Real America's voice in the war room give you wall-to-wall coverage of President Trump's efforts, might I even say Herculean efforts to bring peace to the bloodlands?
None of those clowns that are there today did anything but push this war further and further and further.
President Trump's now trying to bring good order and discipline.
We're going to break it all down for you in the six o'clock hour.
We leave you with the right stuff.
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