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Episode 4690: Smoking Gun Behind Obama's CIA Claims; Experimental Genetic Products
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on this people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
War Room.
steve bannon
Thursday, 7 August, Year of Elohim 2025.
To reverse Klausvitz for a moment, politics is just warfare by other methods and other means.
Okay?
Right now, we have them on the run.
Warfare is about momentum.
Just like in sports, just like, you know, you get the National Football League as you press up to the playoffs, right?
Even teams that are just above 500, if you get the momentum, you can go through the playoffs, make it to the Super Bowl.
Same in Major League Baseball now, right?
You get that August, September surge.
You somehow get in as a wild card.
You can go anywhere.
It's momentum, momentum, momentum on the convergence of forces that deGrasse talked about at the very beginning of the opening, right?
The Voting Rights Act, come up with the Supreme Court, the mid-decade census, and the fights on redistrying.
In Texas now, Florida next, we have momentum.
What do you talk about?
Potentially 40 seats?
Right now, right before us could be 10 to 15.
Momentum, momentum, momentum.
That's why Texas is so important.
And this is why Alex Marlow was on yesterday about the law fair.
All they have left, if you look at it, it's in the courts fighting President Trump on his Article II powers.
It's in the courts fighting in Texas.
They're using this radical judiciary, and that all comes from Watergate and from post-Watergate.
And Michael Patrick Leahy and others are going to have a lot to say about that starting early next week.
So I'll have Michael Patrick Leahy and some things that he's working on to kind of highlight this.
The radical judiciary, and that's why Marlowe's book is so important.
It kind of gives you a framing of that.
Of all of these, and this is why this Axios piece was so important yesterday, because Axios, look, Axios is the Washington consensus.
That's why we bring it up a lot, or Morning Joe Up.
You've got to understand in narrative warfare and information warfare where the enemy is and what the consensus is, and then how the radical Democrats are trying to drive that Washington consensus for their victory and how we're shattering it.
The most important of all is sticking the landing on this seditious conspiracy.
And they had the beautiful story with the MAGA and the handcuffs and bold red.
And I think it was a couple of guys that were actually did an incredible job of framing the story correctly.
John Solomon joins me today because he's got a really incredible piece up about a potential smoking gun.
John, of everything we're working on, and there's so much of this that are so important, the one thing that we must win and we have to deliver on is this deep state conspiracy.
Because if we don't solve this now, we don't really have a country.
We can win redistricting, we can get tariffs, all the stuff Trump's doing.
Seal the border, mass deportations, redoing the world's economic system, supply side, productivity, tax cuts, all of these great things.
Putin coming to the White House with Russia, the head of Intel being told he's going to be, the board's got to let him go because it's too close to the Chinese Congress Party.
I can list a hundred things we're doing.
And if we don't do this one big thing, it could all be unwound very easily.
So, John Solomon, talk to me about the framing of that.
In addition, your amazing article now about, guess what?
Obama may have given us a smoking gun, sir.
john solomon
He did.
Yeah.
He's either the first clairvoyant president in American history Because he seemed to know on December 19th, before the CIA had redone the intelligence community assessment, what its outcome was, or more likely, he knew the fix was in.
This is an interview he gives NPR, and I guess he forgot that they hadn't done the work yet.
So he tells NPR he expects the CIA to conclude, reverse itself, and conclude that Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump.
The problem is, the CIA hasn't really even started the work.
It just got going.
And he's so embarrassed, he comes back later and tries to walk it back a little bit.
Oh, things are still going on.
I want to see where it goes.
It is the sort of proof that John Durham should have found in his investigation, but didn't.
But for this point going forward, when you try to prove it was just a long 10-year conspiracy, this is a really, really significant piece of evidence.
And I'll walk people back to Watergate because you mentioned it for a second.
The moment Republicans bolted on Richard Nixon, the epic event that caused them to do is when they got the tapes and they realized that Nixon had asked the CIA to try to stop the FBI from investigating the burglary.
By the way, the CIA didn't do it, but the mere fact that a president would consider asking the CIA to do something political was enough for an entire party to bolt on their president.
Here, Obama asked the CIA to come up with a concocted thing, and he seems to know the outcome before the work's even done.
You've got the FBI pressuring the CIA to put a bogus Christopher Steele document in the intelligence assessment.
And of course, you've got the FBI helping Hillary Clinton carry out the whole dirty trick.
It is epically, just on the standards of Watergate, it is epically worse than anything we saw in Watergate.
And the Democratic Party just yawns at it in our face every day.
That's why consequences matter.
If we don't punish this behavior, we're going to go from the greatest constitutional republic the world has known to a perennial banana republic.
steve bannon
So, John, I want to go back because, you know, this whole thing of Obama's immunity because of the court decision, and look, that's all something for them to figure out, but it doesn't mean he can't be in this initial roundup to start looking at it.
I want to go back to the date.
Why is I think it's 19 December?
Why is 19 December, what had happened before then?
Why is 19 December because you've got the original meeting and then you got the meeting with Trump in early January, right?
And what else they do in the Oval.
Why is that 19 December his kind of either Freudian slip or bragging about it to NPR?
Why is that date so important?
john solomon
Well, the documents that Tulsi Gabbard declassified recently, along with the House Intelligence Community Annex that we got recently, thanks to Rick Crawford and Devin Nunes, who wrote the original report, showed that the intelligence community assessment was just starting.
There was no work.
What it means is that Barack Obama had decided that the career people are going to come to my conclusion.
It doesn't matter what the intelligence shows.
I've decided that I want to say that Vladimir Putin interfered in the election to help Donald Trump.
And that is contrary to all the evidence that the career CIA people had.
They had already briefed Congress on November 29th, and they had briefed the president back in September of 2016 that Russia wasn't trying to pick a candidate.
It was just trying to cause mischief like it does in every election.
In fact, the best evidence, the smoking gun evidence that the CIA career people were right, was that Vladimir Putin stopped his operations, his influence operations in October 2016.
If you were trying to help Donald Trump win, the month you would lay down on Hillary Clinton and blow your submarines up with her would be in October.
Instead, Putin pulls out and lets the American people without much more influence go on.
The CIA had it right, and Barack Obama decides to corrupt that process because he and Hillary Clinton want to be victims.
We didn't lose fair and square.
We didn't lose because my policies weren't appreciated.
We didn't lose because Hillary Clinton didn't do enough work in Wisconsin and Michigan.
We lost because big bad Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump beat us by cheating.
That's the victimology that liberals love every time they lose.
But in this case, rather than just create a political narrative, they're using the apparatus of the CIA and the intelligence community to create an official government product that is bogus.
That is Watergate-level stuff.
steve bannon
John, you've been pretty good.
You've had a couple of three pretty good called shots on the show about things that happened.
Make us smart.
What are you looking For as this, as you know, we don't really know where this grand jury is.
We keep hearing about it.
We don't really know who the prosecutor is.
We keep hearing about a strike force.
Make us smart right now.
What should the Warren posse be looking for on developments in this case?
john solomon
I'd be staking out the Justice Department next week to see which U.S. attorney comes to meet with Pam Bondi, because that most likely would be the U.S. attorney that inherits the grand conspiracy case.
If I had to guess, I think it's going to be Miami, and then the grand jury will be put in Fort Pierce, Florida, which is the same district where Jack Smith did his business and the raid on Mar-a-Lago and all of the things that we now know about that.
That makes a lot of sense because that's the back end of the conspiracy.
Most grand juries are impaneled where the most current crimes or alleged crimes are believed to have occurred.
And then you work your way back to earlier.
So I'd be watching for a visit by the Miami U.S. Attorney or some team from Miami or Fort Pierce coming up and then look for some announcement.
If that happens, then the grand conspiracy investigation that has already been written as a predicate by the FBI is underway.
If they start doing business in Washington, it means they're fragmenting this and maybe not looking at it as a conspiracy.
So I'd be watching for that.
My gut tells me, based on what I'm hearing behind the scenes from reporting, that the grand conspiracy is the approach that they're taking.
steve bannon
You mentioned Crawford and you mentioned the House and then the Senate.
Is there going to be something happening in the House and the Senate along these lines, concurrent, their own investigation?
What's going to happen?
You're pretty well sourced there.
What's going to happen on Capitol Hill?
john solomon
I think, and this is just based on some early reporting I'm doing.
We've got to see if this bears out.
But I think we're moving to a moment much like the Church Commission was back in the 70s when we learned what the CIA and J. Edgar Hoover did to us.
So maybe there's a creation of a truth commission in Congress that works simultaneously alongside of the Justice Department.
They don't have to defer to each other.
And if I'm the Justice Department, I know what I'm going to do.
I'm going to put a prosecutor in the Truth Commission.
And the second somebody walks in and lies in that commission, I'm going to have the agents with me.
I'm going to arrest that person on the scene saying, you clearly lied.
We're arresting you today, and then we'll go get a grand jury indictment.
That would be the most powerful one-two punch that we could do to push back against this.
Some people are talking about that's not my idea.
If that gets there, that is a powerful one, too, because we need to educate the American people from the Pravda baloney they've gotten from CNN, the New York Times, and the Washington Post the last eight months.
You do that simultaneously to the criminal investigation.
I think you have the most effective potential deterrent so that people aren't tempted to do what they just did the last nine years.
steve bannon
You're always ahead of the curve when people talk about whistleblowers and people coming forward that have information that felt that they couldn't do it before, both on Capitol Hill and at the DOJ FBI level.
What are you hearing about whistleblowers or people that really know and have for years just felt like nobody would have their back, they can come forward?
How big a deal is that right now?
john solomon
They're coming out of the woodwork, particularly in the intelligence community.
People are going directly to Tulsi Gabbard.
They feel comfortable because she treated the information seriously and she did a fully transparent release.
So that first intelligence officer who's a whistleblower came forward.
He was the deputy national intelligence officer for cybersecurity.
He's like, hey, there should have never been the use of the steel dossier.
When I found out the steel dossier was used for the intelligence community, that violated all the rules.
His coming forward has prompted many others to come forward.
I think we'll see another release of whistleblower information sometime in August, and it will probably make our heads spin again.
There's so many people in the career establishment that knew what was going on was wrong, but they were suppressed, they were intimidated, they were threatened.
And when we hear their stories, you're going to see that this does look like Watergate in so many ways, just worse.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
John, where can people go to get all your content?
The writing and the podcast and the show.
john solomon
Thank you, my friend.
Yep.
Justthenews.com is the site.
Jay Solomon reports on all the social media platforms.
And I'm lucky enough to follow you every night at 6 o'clock here on Real America's Voice.
Just the news, no noise.
Good to be with you, buddy.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
john solomon
Yeah, I got you.
steve bannon
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Of everything that's going on, it can all be unwound by this apparatus, and it's powerful.
It's very powerful.
Look what it tried to do to President Trump.
Don't ever Forget in those years, the 21 and 22, those dark years, 23.
How they had his back against the wall.
President Trump, a guy as powerful as that, an alpha, the alpha male, alpha males.
This apparatus has to be taken down.
You're seeing the convergence of many things now.
This is why you're seeing the restructuring of American politics.
From the Voting Rights Act to the mid-decade census, to the fight, and it's a fight to do the redistricting.
At the same time, you have a concurrent fight to take apart the deep state, driven by grassroots, driven by this audience, the tip of the tip of the spear.
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stephanie ruhle
Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced that his department will be cutting nearly $500 million in funding for mRNA vaccine development.
NBC News is reporting: quote: Many scientists and infectious disease experts swiftly denounced the move as a broadside attack on the area of research, particularly those who have seen this as promising after rapidly developing COVID vaccines.
unidentified
Basically, the way we, for your audience, the way we've been designing vaccines prior to mRNA had serious cons.
It took 10 to 15 years for Stephanie to develop.
It wasn't nimble in the setting of a crisis like a pandemic, and it came with significant side effects.
That approach actually caused more side effects than what we're seeing with mRNA vaccines, where the side effect profile is actually quite minimal, regardless of the misinformation environment.
So none of this makes sense.
We can look at the data as, you know, we did this for five years during the pandemic, but none of this makes sense and actually doesn't help his legacy whatsoever.
sam stein
It's horrible.
I mean, this is horrible.
And it's incredibly sad.
Dr. Guber outlined it, but I mean, to take one of the more promising advancements and just to say, you know what, we're not going to do that anymore is an unbelievable dereliction of duty.
And yes, I'm deeply mad at RFK Jr. for doing this.
But Donald Trump put this man in this position.
Donald Trump.
stephanie ruhle
Knowing exactly who he was and what he was going to do.
sam stein
Donald Trump made Donald Trump, who boasted repeatedly about the success of Operation Warp Speed.
unidentified
And should and had to do that.
sam stein
And rightfully so.
Rightfully so.
It was an incredible achievement.
Decided as a matter of political convenience that he was going to incorporate the RFK Jr. coalition into his own.
And the price he paid was by making RFK Jr.
HHS secretary.
And the repercussions for that we will live with not just today, not just next year, but for 10 years to come.
And I just feel years and years to come, I should say.
And I just, it is a, it's unbelievable to think what we could prevent, the diseases we could prevent, the suffering and deaths we could prevent, that will not be prevented because of this decision.
stephen colbert
Oh, there's bad news of fans of living because Health Secretary RFK Jr. just pulled $500 million in funding for vaccine development.
Now, we have 10 more months of this show, and I want to give a measured, non-partisan response here.
you roid addled nepo khan Specifically, specifically, specifically, Bobby Jr. is nixing 22 projects that use mRNA technology, but that's the latest vaccine technology.
That's like saying, kids, I'm turning off the GPS.
We're going to make our way to six flags by using the stars.
Hand Daddy the sextant.
Yes.
Crank down windows in daddy's car.
unidentified
There you go.
All right, there you go.
donald j trump
Colbert has no talent.
I mean, I could take anybody here.
I could go outside in the beautiful streets and pick up a couple of people that do just as well or better.
They get higher ratings than he did.
He's got no talent.
stephen colbert
Yesterday, yesterday, RFK Jr. tried to defend the Indefensible.
robert f kennedy-jr
Most of these shots are for flu or COVID, but as the pandemic showed us, mRNA vaccines don't perform well against viruses that in fact the upper respiratory tract.
stephen colbert
Counterpoint.
unidentified
You, you rotill munching, red-eyed cumin slim gym.
stephen colbert
You're going to kill people.
Why?
Why would you say that mRNA vaccines don't perform well against upper reparatory infections?
The National Institutes of Health said they prevented an estimated 14.4 million deaths.
Why?
Why on earth is RFK Jr. so anxious to fill our streets with dead bodies?
unidentified
Why on earth is RFK Jr. so anxious to fill our streets with dead bodies?
*music* you Thank you.
steve bannon
You see, he's always being cute there.
As President Trump said, a no talent.
He says he's got 10 more months.
I'm not so sure about that.
I'm not so sure.
New management over at CBS and Paramount that just closed, I think, and announced it two days ago.
Anyway, Dr. Stephen Hetfill joins us.
Honored to have him on.
When we first shifted the show to worm pandemic, he was our first guest, but we only had him for like a week or 10 days.
And he went over to the White House to work with Dr. Peter Navarre and others during the darkest days of the pandemic.
So, sir, walk us through, because you're taking incoming from all over about getting rid of this amazing new technology.
What was it?
And I know there's a thousand reports out there, everything like that, but you're a data guy and a science guy.
Walk us through what led to the decision of finally getting, you know, stopping the underwriting of American taxpayer for this experimental gene therapy, sir.
dr steve hatfill
Hi, Stephen.
Good to see you once again.
What happened is that the data had accumulated to the point where meta-analysis studies could be done.
These are very comprehensive analysis.
And it virtually came back consistently that there was no benefit to risk ratio for taking a messenger RNA vaccine.
In fact, it was more dangerous to take a vaccine than it was to contract COVID-19 and be hospitalized with it.
This is, we're now in 2022 that this data started to come out.
The side effects for this, essentially gene therapy, was so enormous and progressive, it was difficult to fathom.
And then finally, a few months ago, some of the detailed biochemistry studies started to appear in the literature.
And the sudden flood of messenger RNA, it appears irrespective of what the messenger RNA insert is coding for.
Just the sheer amount of number of millions of molecules of messenger RNA entering the cell is creating biochemical havoc.
It's disrupting protein metabolism.
It's interfering with tumor suppressor genes.
It's just completely, it's damaging the mitochondria, the powerhouses of the cell.
It had to be stopped.
And the should operation of warp speed have been done?
Yes, of course.
unidentified
It had to be done.
dr steve hatfill
But it was always understood at the end of 2020 that this would be followed very, very, very carefully.
And it would be halted at the first sign of any strange adverse events.
And we had those strange adverse events very shortly.
Major veins in the brain clotting.
And a brief pause was given.
It was one of the adenovirus messenger RNA vaccines.
But it was restarted again.
Eventually, I think we gave ours to Canada.
It was unsafe.
And then we started seeing the same things with the Moderna and the Pfizer preparations.
It turns out that the manufacturers did not do due diligence to ensure these were safe products before they were released onto the American market.
And throughout 2021 to 2024, the drug companies essentially ran the pandemic response.
Nobody stood up to them.
Nobody questioned them.
Judicial Watch, America's first legal, were able to obtain some documents.
They didn't want to release it.
Pfizer, they wanted a 70-year moratorium on the clinical data from the trials, which from the start showed these never prevented infection, never prevented disease transmission.
And there's no good clinical data to ever show it reduced the severity of disease.
The CDC in response, I don't know what's wrong with that once-fine agency, but they become a supplicant of big pharma.
They put out a paper saying, yes, we've saved like 14 million lives, the vaccination program.
No.
The paper's been torn to shreds by epidemiologists.
It was based against a computer model and against an idea where you have the peak and it comes down and then it goes back up again.
The vaccines have injured hundreds of thousands.
And we're not really sure how many have been killed by it, but a significant amount.
They had to come off the market.
There was no choice.
You want to make America healthy again.
It had to be stopped.
And the lack of regulatory supervision over the previous four years from 2021 to the end of 2024, the drug companies were, everybody was jumping in to make a dollar.
And the spike protein itself that they were using for COVID-19 is a toxin.
It's a poisonous molecule.
unidentified
It was killing people.
dr steve hatfill
And they'd gone too far now to go back and admit a mistake.
Nobody would stand up until Secretary Kennedy.
steve bannon
I want to get into that.
Let's take a short commercial break.
This is why we brought you on as a consultant because I called around in mid-January when I knew that this was happening and coming out of China.
And everybody consistently told me, you got to get hat-filled.
And this is why you were our first guy.
At first, you were almost like the co-host for the first, I think, a week or so, and then you went over to the White House to work.
Very disturbing because it talks about an industry that is only focused on profit and not people.
The biopharmaceutical industry.
Short commercial breakup.
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So we're going to get into this about how the war on Posse was absolutely essential in this.
Remember the Pfizer papers, Naomi Wolf and the entire team over her shop that led the organizing effort.
We had thousands of people in this audience that went through all the Pfizer documents line by line.
Remember, they were supposed to be, they were supposed to be held in secret for 70 years, but a federal court down in Texas, I guess Dale Bigtree and his team down there sued them.
And that was released and then got into under the guidance of Daily Clout, the great team over there, and Naomi Wolf.
And remember, we have two volumes of the book, and we promulgated it everywhere.
That was the start of the kind of the pick and shovel research.
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Dr. Hatfield, this is why this announcement came out the other day, and I was like, this is earth-shattering.
It was just kind of put out.
And now, with you and others, we're starting to get some backup to it.
How important this is monumental.
But I want to go to the years 21, 22, because it's not about warp speed or trying to put this together.
It is about the pharmaceutical industry in 21, 22, and even later in the medical profession, in the colleges, and all of this.
I mean, now, because of things like the Pfizer papers, and this is a bunch of citizens going through these documents and just seeing all this stuff.
And now you got all these peer-reviewed peer-reviewed journal articles coming out, studies coming out.
But the pharmaceutical industry knew this.
The Moderna and Pfizer knew this.
And worse than them knowing it, the universities and the doctors, the entire system that we've built up with taxpayer money to make sure people are educated, make sure these are the finest institutions in the world.
This was David and Goliath.
And now that we got Bobby Kennedy and some, you know, Jay Bactera and people like you at HHS, you know, reasonable people that look at science and understand science has never settled.
Science goes forward every day.
But what we had to fight against is so monumental and it's not out of the system.
This is why we're back in this effort.
We're getting more into next week about banning all pharmaceutical ads from television.
This is propaganda.
And these companies got to be held responsible.
They knew what they were doing.
If you look at all the studies you're talking about and you look at the Pfizer papers you go through, this was not lost on them.
So how should people have faith?
How could the basic citizen in this country today understand the monumental decision?
Because the 500 million is just a tip.
You're just shutting down these studies, but it's a deeper issue you're talking about in that the pharmaceutical industry worked for their own purposes, their own profits, their own benefits, and bald-faced lied to people, sir.
dr steve hatfill
Unfortunately, everything you've just said is true.
unidentified
We've got a problem.
dr steve hatfill
There's a new sheriff in town.
There's several new sheriffs in town.
You have President Trump.
You have Mr. Knox at ASPR.
And you have Secretary Kennedy.
The days of Big Pharma are, you know, actually killing the American population are over.
This is all about make America healthy again.
i want to add something nobody is anti-vax here i i I've done vaccination campaigns in Africa years ago.
What we're dealing with are experimental genetic products that were used as vaccines using the code for essentially a protein poison that has devastated families.
Then you brought it down to inoculate children who were really at no risk for COVID-19.
And then you have top people considered to be top epidemiologists.
Michael Osterholm was on NPR this morning saying how wonderful and safe the vaccines were.
You can't fix stupid.
It's beyond the ground.
unidentified
But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, ho, ho, ho.
steve bannon
But this is my, you can fix stupid.
And this is my problem.
I've got a problem with the way you guys have rolled it out.
And I've been very clear with the top guys over at HHS.
This is so monumental and so important.
And it's not going to be won by Steve Bannon yelling to a microphone or Dr. Hadfield coming on here.
This is about the data and this is about the facts.
And this is why this audience took years of their lives to get into those Pfizer documents under Naomi Wolf and start putting information out.
We have to now is incumbent upon HHS.
It's incumbent upon Bobby Kennedy and all the great deputies he has, including yourself, to come forward and let's put it out so we refute them.
I said at the time when I saw that press release, they're now on every, they're an NPR, they're on MSMEC, the same cast of characters, these demons that were out there in 21 and 22 are back in your life.
Okay?
Because if we're going to stop it, it's only going to get stopped when we take the science and we take the data and we rub their nose in about what they did, what they knew, when they knew it, and what was the consequences of that.
And so this is not a game of rhetoric.
This is not a game.
This is not a debating society.
We're not going to outdebate them and they're not going to outdebate us.
People understand what the two sides are.
Now it's back to the facts.
And finally, the power of Bobby Kennedy at HHS, and this is part of the Trump revolution to make America healthy with MAGA, is now we have, as he promised us, platinum-level science at HHS.
No more being running dogs for big pharma.
No more being running dogs for profits for big pharma, right?
It's now, but to do that, that's what I'm saying.
We ought to just have overwhelmed these people with the studies and how you guys curated the studies and put the data out.
And this I'm at, and I said, I've told people over there, the war room platform four hours a day.
You got it, baby.
This thing is so big and so and so important.
And don't think they're going to roll over.
These are some of the most profitable institutions in the world.
You think they're going to sit there and they give a damn what Bobby Kennedy says?
You think they give a damn what Hadfield says?
You think they give a damn what Bannon and people say?
They don't.
They're going to buy up the set.
They own the medical schools.
They own the medical profession, right?
They've corrupted everything.
And they're just not going to sit there because to admit their guilt is just not to bring down the apparatus and to actually start to lead America to be healthy again.
It's to hold them accountable and responsible for what they did and what they knowingly did to the American people and particularly to the elderly and the young, right?
Of what they did and pushed it for more profits, sir.
dr steve hatfill
Absolutely correct.
unidentified
Can you put up that book?
dr steve hatfill
What happened is a number of us got together.
And we've took the, there's about 5,000 papers showing the damage.
No, not that one.
Another one.
steve bannon
The Pfizer book?
Yep.
dr steve hatfill
No, the COVID-19 injuries book.
steve bannon
Oh, let's see, the COVID-19 injuries?
unidentified
Yeah, I sent it to you.
steve bannon
What book is that?
Okay, fine.
Okay.
unidentified
What we did, a number of experts, It was quite a group effort.
dr steve hatfill
And we took out of these 5,000 papers the 700 most severe vaccine injury peer-reviewed medical papers.
And we put them all into subdivided and put it all into this cumulative book and we made it free.
You can get it off the internet.
It's called COVID-19 Vaccine Injury.
700 clinical papers.
And anyone could go on there and read for themselves what these vaccines have been doing.
We have not been able to have a voice anywhere.
It's all been suppressed.
You're not going to get on the mainstream media unless you tout the benefits of the vaccines.
unidentified
You still have to.
steve bannon
Now, hold it, but hang on.
Hang on.
unidentified
Hold on.
steve bannon
Slow down.
I got you.
You have Bobby Kennedy as secretary of HHS.
This is so monumental.
If you want to see a profile and courage of Donald John Trump, I don't think you have, besides the fact that he knew he was going to be put in prison, assassinated, all that, when he made a decision to come back in 21 in those first few months and run for president again, which is the greatest moral political decision in the history of this nation, bar none.
And that's why I say it's Washington, Lincoln, and Trump.
But if you look at sub-decisions of that, picking Bobby Kennedy to be HHS.
So, look, we have the apparatus now.
There's no whining in the war room, and we're not going to whine here.
We have the apparatus.
We have the science.
It's a coming across.
And I want to be brutally frank.
If something this monumental, you just don't put some press release out and put a bunch of assertions in it.
I need guys like you and others.
And we got to flood this zone with the data.
It's not just the book.
It's what's in the book.
And you've got to have people pounding it.
Of course, there's going to be resistance.
One, it's going to be resistance because they understand their guilt.
And they're just not prepared to sit there and go, oh, yeah, you're correct.
We're guilty.
They're not going to do that.
We have to drive this argument, but we're not driving it.
And a press release ain't good enough.
This has to be driven and it has to be driven hard.
And we have to rub their freaking noses in the data.
And we have to rub their noses in the death.
And we have to rub their noses in the vaccine injuries.
We have to do it so that it can be irrefutable.
And to do that, you got to man up and do it.
It's not happening.
Now, we're prepared to assist and make it happen, but it's just not going to be.
This cuts to the heart of what's wrong with modern corporate thinking.
They never think about the common good.
They never think about the nation.
They never think about American citizens, right?
And I'm not some socialist, right?
Or part of the shareholder, you know, the shareholder capitalism.
But you have people that are blinded, blinded, and all they're driven for is profitability.
And all they're driven for is their own stock portfolios.
Dr. Hatfield, I got to bounce, but give me your, we'll get you back on here.
By the way, this reminds me of the early days of war and pandemic behind the scenes when Hatfield and I would go at it before the show started, brother.
dr steve hatfill
Yeah, I missed those days.
unidentified
We went at it, boy.
steve bannon
Because you're one of the smartest guys I met, and you get this.
dr steve hatfill
Hell yeah.
Americans, most Americans have figured this out.
unidentified
But they have this coming platform.
dr steve hatfill
It's common sense.
unidentified
Well, and we're going to force you to do it.
steve bannon
You got to kick down the door.
You got to kick down the doors.
dr steve hatfill
We've got to do it.
steve bannon
Force your way onto MSME.
We don't do it.
dr steve hatfill
Stand up now.
steve bannon
So, Dr. Hatfell, where's your social media?
We're going to do this again.
And you're going to be on CNN.
You're going to be in MSM.
You see, they're going to have to do it.
You're going to force their hands.
Where do people go and get you?
In particular, the book you wrote.
dr steve hatfill
They can't because I signed all this like.
No, they can't.
Conflicts of interest statements.
steve bannon
Conflicts of interest.
Dr. Halfield, are you on social media?
dr steve hatfill
I signed it.
No, I don't do that.
unidentified
I've got a website, but hang on, hang on for a second.
steve bannon
I'll bring you back after the break.
unidentified
We will break till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
steve bannon
Let's take down the CCP.
unidentified
Hey!
Here's your host, Stephen K. Man.
steve bannon
Okay, Dr. Hatfield, we'll get the books back up and get it all.
We're going to have you back on.
This is the first of many, many, many things we're going to do.
We're going to go back to pandemic days because now we got the solution.
We fought this one for years.
We were banned on every platform because of this fight.
Because what I tell you at the time, it ain't right.
That's why no one at the war room is vaxed.
Nobody vaxed.
Didn't take it.
Not going to take it.
Hatfield, what's the website you got, Dr. Hatfield?
dr steve hatfill
It's DRSTEVEN with a B Hatfield.
H-A-T-F-I-L-L.
D-R-StevenHatfield.com, I think.
steve bannon
Perfect.
Can you imagine staff meetings over at the EOB with Peter Navarro and Dr. Hatfield?
Two of the hardest-headed guys I ever met.
Dr. Hatfield.
Always great to have you on.
Look forward to getting you back.
This is the first step in a long journey to set things right, sir.
And we're going to do it and we're going to do it together with the great team over at HHS.
So thank you so much for coming on.
dr steve hatfill
Thank you.
steve bannon
See you, brother.
Hatfield's a guy like Navarro.
You want in, if you're in a foxhole, those are the kind of guys you want around you.
But there's a lesson here.
In the narrative war, you've got to have what I refer to as muzzle velocity.
When it's announced, you've got to have it lined up and you got to hammer through because they're going to hammer.
They own the high ground of the apparatuses.
That's what Dr. Hatfield's talking about.
You already see.
I said this the other day when it first came out.
I first read on the thing.
I said, these guys are going to come.
You're already seeing the same old names you saw before because Big Pharma is not going to roll over this.
I'm going to sit there.
Oh, Bobby Kennedy's over at HH says that true, is he over there?
Okay, fine.
That's good.
We want to make America healthy again.
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
They want to make their companies the most profits possible.
This is why we're going to be rolling out.
There's a couple of groups doing it to get these pharma ads off of television because it is a corrupting, it's corrupted media.
If you took the pharma ads, if you took big pharma ads off MSNBC, it'd be a test pattern.
I mean, every, and you got to see the diseases they got, and particularly the depression, they got people, they got nine different depression pills.
What are you so depressed about?
What are you so anxious about?
It's called life.
It's incredible.
If you see, they got these weird diseases.
It's a freak show.
You got to get that crap off of there.
It's sick.
And the big pharma is one of the worst group of people on earth, on earth.
Mike Lindell, this audience has been working overtime to change the direction of the country.
It's been extraordinary the last couple of weeks.
It's been extraordinary in these victories.
And I really want to say the big, the pharma, people that worked on the Pfizer papers, just extraordinary work for years and years and years.
So where do people go to get the special deals you're giving us from my pillow, sir?
mike lindell
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steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
See you this afternoon.
mike lindell
Yep.
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
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We'll be back five to seven tonight.
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President's going to be up live, I think, at four.
I'll try to do a hard changeover for Eric Bowling.
The show already this afternoon is going to be explosive, including President Trump's amazing situation with Armenia, President Trump trying to bring peace to that area of the world.
Also, we're going to Ben Harnwell some very specific analysis about Russia in this upcoming meeting.
So so much going on.
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