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Aug. 2, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4677: Clearing The Corruption Out Of The MAGA Administration
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cleo paskal
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donald j trump
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mike lee
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steve bannon
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ed elson
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ej antoni
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mike lindell
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natalie winters
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henrietta treyz
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steve bannon
For the weekend, he's going to go out to the south lawn.
I think they're going to take Marine One, and then they're going to leave and go to Andrews Air Force Base.
We're going to cover it all as soon as it becomes around, as soon as it manifests itself for right now.
Do we have a cold open?
We have Senator Lee.
That's even better.
We don't need a cold open.
We got Senator Mike Lee.
Senator Lee, thank you so much for joining us here in the war room.
Have you made progress?
Your name came up about 100 times in the morning show, people talking about the recess appointments or a new package that's getting sent up.
Can you give us an update, sir?
mike lee
Yeah, biggest development since we last spoke was that President Trump put out an excellent statement on True Social last night in which he explicitly called for the Senate to not recess until we've cleared the backlog, until we've gotten through the entire executive calendar.
This is what needs to happen.
And here's the point, Steve.
We've got massive bargaining power here.
We've got Democratic senators who do not want to be here.
They want to leave town.
They want to get out of Dodge.
As long as that's the case, and as long as we've got this unique circumstance where we've got a Republican president, a Republican Senate, and a Republican House, this ship doesn't pass our way all that often.
And we need to take advantage of it when it does happen.
And we need to make sure that we don't disempower the Republican president, Donald J. Trump, after the American people have resoundingly elected him by failing to confirm his nominees.
Because, of course, that defaults back to the deep state regulatory bureaucrats, and they lean overwhelmingly left.
And so we've got to get it done.
We can do it.
We can keep them here.
And in the very worst case scenario, if for some reason the Senate ends up taking a recess, which it shouldn't do, it should stay here and clear through all of them.
But at a bare minimum, we should make sure that any recess we take is a real recess.
None of these pro forma sessions that are designed simply to block the President of the United States from making recess appointments as he's authorized to do under the Constitution.
steve bannon
Now, I understand he put on there, they've taken them in blocks.
As Thune worked out something with Schumer that you guys are at least going to stay around tonight and maybe over the weekend and move a block, try to move a block of these.
Has there been any overall plan to really address your target of 150, the backlog, or are we just doing this incrementally right now?
mike lee
Well, it's incrementally.
It's not uncommon whether we're dealing with setting up votes on amendments for legislation or votes on presidential nominees.
It's not uncommon for us to stack groups of votes together.
So there have been some blocks that get cleared by both parties and they get moved onto the Senate floor.
But the fact that we've got a block that we're about to launch into right now doesn't mean that that's the end of it.
In fact, that's just the beginning of it.
steve bannon
There was a tweet out that Thune is sitting down with Schumer and there's some sort of negotiation going on.
Do you have any idea what that's about?
mike lee
Yeah, they're talking through what might be acceptable to each party.
You know, you've got three principal players here.
You've got the Senate Republicans, you've got the Senate Democrats, and you have President Trump and the White House.
So they're just trying to figure out what might be acceptable to whom.
Now, the Democrats understand that their bargaining power is not immense.
And for that reason, they're negotiating and they're approving some of these nominations to be confirmed.
But my goal is to make sure that we stay here as long as it takes to get through all of them.
There's no reason why we should make it this easy for them.
We haven't even begun the stage at which we could start moving a lot faster, in part because we're still dealing with some appropriations bills on the MILCON VA appropriate vehicle that we're addressing right now.
But as soon as that's behind us, we should be in a better position to stack more and more presidential nomination votes and have them addressed one right after the other in the Senate.
Meanwhile, John Thune is the Senate majority leader, is continuing to file cloture on more and more nominations.
I would love to see him file cloture on every one of the 150 or so now pending on the executive calendar so that we can show that we're serious and we can open the door toward getting all of these people confirmed.
steve bannon
Just talk about the landscape.
And the reason you either have to me, it's pretty obvious.
You have to do either Mike Lee's plan and clean the schedule, clean it up now, this backlog up now, before you go into recess, or do the real recess, not pro forma, where you actually do rest appointments.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
When you guys get back after Labor Day, it looks to me that September 30th, you have massive budget.
You have appropriations.
You've got whether it's going to be a CR, whether it's going to be a minibus.
There's talks of an omnibus.
Those days in September are going to be totally overwhelmed with trying to get the government funded for fiscal year 2026, is it not?
mike lee
Yeah, that's exactly right.
We'll be dealing with trying to keep the government funded for 2026.
I think there are only something like between 10 and 12 legislative days scheduled for us to be in session in September.
And with that, we've got to get the government funded.
And then after that's done, presumably we'll be moving on to the Defense Authorization Act, the NDAA.
And so, look, we do have a legislative agenda.
And if we don't get the executive calendar, meaning presidential nominations out of the way now, then we're going to end up with another backlog.
And that backlog is in turn going to impair our ability to fulfill the legislative part of the agenda.
That's why this has to be done now.
This doesn't get easier, Steve.
It just gets harder.
And so that's why I ask all within the sound of my voice: if you agreed that we ought to get these cleared, that President Trump ought to have the benefit of his own nominees being in office.
And if you don't want the Senate just punting on this issue, reach out to your senators, especially if they're Republicans, and say, clear the backlog, clear it, clear it before you take any recess in August.
President Trump and those who elected him deserve nothing less.
steve bannon
By the way, we've been, our team, the Warren Potter's been working on the phones all day.
Tell me, Tupperville.
Senator Tupperville was on this morning.
He said he had a meeting yesterday.
He says he was shocked by some of the senators' kind of lack of understanding of particularly going into it, taking it off of pro forma, going to a real recess.
They brought the things yesterday you said, and he said Senator Lee had to correct him with that.
People wouldn't get paid.
It couldn't be done.
There was only a rudimentary understanding.
They said you did a great job of answering the questions.
I think it was kind of shocking that we could be, you know, 24 hours before August 1st, the day before, you know, late July, and senators not know the basic fundamentals of what the tools they have available.
Have you now, do you personally feel comfortable that you've gotten the word out to everybody about the constitutionality, the federal regulations, and the people are up to speed on what's available for them to actually act upon?
mike lee
For the most part, yes, we've made a significant amount of progress in the last few days on that front, at least with Republican senators.
Although I'm shocked, Steve, still at the number of questions that continue to come up constantly, where just as I think it's been clarified, somebody will come up and say, wait a minute, I thought we couldn't pay them if President Trump recess appointed them.
And then I walked them through the statute, 5 USC 5503A, and I explained the reasons why we can pay them, why there's historical precedent for us paying them.
There's no statutory prohibition against us paying them.
And then I'll get another question about: wait a minute, why couldn't the president make recess appointments if we're holding pro formas?
And I have to walk through that.
Is sort of what happens.
The legislative muscle, as I like to put it, the legislative muscle starts to atrophy with non-use, just as actual muscle does if you don't use it.
And so because we have been asleep at the wheel as a Senate for so long, and we don't talk about these things as we should, we've just been reflexively holding pro forma sessions for more than a decade.
And as a result of that, people have forgotten how those muscles work.
It's time to put them back into action because, Steve, the stakes are simply too high right now.
We have seen what happens when this deep state bastards take control of our government, and it's not pretty.
They will do it again.
They're trying to do it again right now, and we cannot let that happen.
steve bannon
Senator Lee, make us smart.
What should we look for overnight to see if there's any breakthrough on your plan or your alternative plan of going on recess?
We're going to be live tomorrow morning.
We'd love to have you on if you're still in town, right?
So, can you just make us smart what you anticipate we should look for in the next 24 hours?
mike lee
Okay, look number one for additional rounds, additional tranches of votes that will be agreed to for consideration on the executive calendar, tranches or clumpings of presidential nominees that will be moving forward to vote for.
Look also on the other end of the spectrum for any discussions, the possibility of an adjournment resolution that does not contain any provision for pro forma sessions.
Either one of those things will trigger that we're resolving this in one direction or the other.
Again, I would still prefer that we do this the right way, that we actually confirm them rather than just leaving and allowing the president to recess appoint them.
If we have to recess for some reason, then that's better than nothing to have it that way.
But it is much better for us to confirm them because we still have to address it.
The Piper still has to be paid if they're recess appointed.
Those recess appointments last only until the end of 2026.
So we'll still have to get to them at some point anyway.
We might as well get them done now.
But like I say, it's nice to have the recess appointment option available to us should that become necessary.
steve bannon
Senator Lee, your social media, both your official and your personal, sir?
mike lee
Yep.
At send Mike Lee is the official side.
And then I've got a separate account that's at based Mike Lee.
Based Mike Lee, I talk about this ad nauseum at great length.
I've been talking about recess appointments.
I've been talking about the need to clear the backlog on the executive calendar so that we don't leave President Trump in a lurch and subject yet again to the ravages of the deep state.
steve bannon
We've made tremendous progress on this, sir, because of your leadership.
I'm telling you, everybody looks to you on this topic.
So thank you very much.
And thank you.
I know the President and everybody over there appreciates all the hard work you're doing in the Senate.
So thank you.
mike lee
Thank you.
steve bannon
Senator Mike Lee of Utah.
Board Rimposse, we've still got some work to do here.
Got some work to do in Texas.
Brian Harrison will be here later to join us.
Let's go ahead and play.
Would you have E.J. up?
Can we play?
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Okay.
Let's go ahead and go to the gaggle.
Let's go.
President Trump is having a gaggle.
We just had a gaggle with the press, the media.
unidentified
Let's go and do it.
donald j trump
See what happens.
We're going to have some meetings and we'll see what happens.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
donald j trump
Look at the jobs report today.
unidentified
We're rigged.
steve bannon
Oh, yeah, I think so.
donald j trump
And if you look at before the election, the same kind of thing happened.
And I think you'll see some very interesting information come out.
But we got rid of.
You have to have honest reports.
And when you look at those numbers, or when you look at just before the election, and then after the election, they corrected it by 800,000 or 900,000 jobs.
Yeah, I would say so.
And thank you.
unidentified
Korea comes, Korea comes, Korea comes, Korea comes, Korea comes, Korea in the United States.
donald j trump
We have a great relationship.
unidentified
And when do you ever?
donald j trump
Yeah, we have a great relationship with South Korea.
unidentified
But you said already, are you open to negotiate with you?
Rebrazin President Lula said you'd like to call you a classical birthday, but who you're talking to him now.
donald j trump
He can talk to me anytime he wants.
unidentified
So are you open to care about that?
donald j trump
Yeah, he can talk to me anytime he wants.
unidentified
What is on the table for Brazil?
donald j trump
Well, we'll see what happens.
But I love the people of Brazil.
unidentified
What I want to know your answer is that you're going to be able to do it.
donald j trump
Why do you pay the two to whatever?
I love the people of Brazil.
unidentified
So why are you calling the rights?
donald j trump
Because the people running Brazil did the wrong thing.
unidentified
What happened?
What happened?
Seven years.
Seven years from the time that you learned the people being stolen from Bar-a-Lago to the time that you picked up if you took an Epstein.
donald j trump
Yeah, I don't understand your question.
unidentified
We're having submarines being deployed.
donald j trump
The nuclear pumps.
unidentified
Say it.
We're being deployed.
Nuclear submarines.
donald j trump
Oh, yeah.
Well, we had to do that.
We just have to be careful.
And a threat was made, and we didn't think it was appropriate, so I have to be very careful.
So I do that on the basis of safety for our people.
A threat was made by a former president of Russia, and we're going to protect our people.
unidentified
Will he finally be investigated for election fraud?
donald j trump
I hope so.
I hope so.
I don't know whether or not that'll happen, but I hope so.
unidentified
Why don't you fire the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics?
donald j trump
Because I think her numbers were wrong.
Just like I thought her numbers were wrong before the election, days before the election, she came out with these beautiful numbers for Kamala, I guess Biden/slash Kamala, and she came out with these beautiful numbers trying to get somebody else elected.
Then right after the election, I think on the 15th, November 15th, she had an $800,000 or $900,000 massive reduction.
Said she made a mistake.
No, that woman, that woman's number.
unidentified
Do you have any evidence for Shouldn't be?
Ted Governor people are intended to resign.
donald j trump
Yeah, one of the governors, as you know, of the Federal Reserve has just announced she's resigning.
I understand it was over the fact that she disagreed with somebody from her party.
She disagreed with Too Late.
You know who Too Late is?
She disagreed with Too Late on the interest rate.
So we'll see what happens.
But we just found out that I have an open spot on the Federal Reserve Board.
I'm very happy about that, John.
unidentified
And what did Methedim say to you that made you really mad?
donald j trump
Well, you just have to read what he said.
He was talking about nuclear.
When you talk about nuclear, we have to be prepared, and we're totally prepared.
unidentified
Mr. President, you said on the monthly draft report, going forward, why should anyone trust the numbers?
Well, that's the number of people.
donald j trump
You're right.
No, you're right.
Why should anybody trust numbers?
You go back to election, election day.
Look what happened two or three days before with massive, wonderful job numbers trying to get him elected or her elected, trying to get whoever the hell was running.
Because you go back and they came out with numbers that were very favorable to Kamala, okay?
To trying to get him elected, trying to get her elected.
And then on the 15th of November or thereabouts, they had an 8,000 or 900,000 overstatement reduction right after the election.
It didn't work because you know who won, John?
I won.
unidentified
Here's the thing.
Your supporters have had issues with these numbers.
donald j trump
But today's, we're doing so well.
I believe the numbers were phony just like they were before the election.
And there were other times.
So you know what I did?
I fired her.
And you know what?
I did the right thing.
unidentified
Any government official.
If any government official going forward is presenting data or information you don't like, should they fear for their job?
donald j trump
I've always had a problem with these numbers.
You know, I was thinking about it this morning.
Before the numbers that came out, I said, who is the person that does these numbers?
And then they gave me stats about before the election, I had a similar problem.
I mean, she gave out numbers that were so good for the Democrats.
It was like unbelievable.
And then right after the election, she corrected those numbers with, I think, almost 900,000 corrections.
I think nobody had ever seen anything like it.
Well, today she did the same thing with the 253,000, whatever the number was.
No, no.
We need people that we can trust.
I mean, your question is a very good one.
We need people we can trust.
unidentified
What about I mean, what would you like a different switcher with?
donald j trump
You know who you planned to replace it with?
I've got about three very good.
I have a lot of good candidates.
I will say everybody wants it.
I've had more phone calls, but I have three people that are.
unidentified
Do you have a background in labor state?
donald j trump
You know, I could do a long-term thing or I could do a temporary.
It's a 14-year term.
unidentified
Right, but do you put someone in who actually has labor statistics experience?
donald j trump
Put somebody in.
I put somebody in who's going to be honest.
That's all we want.
I have a choice.
I can have four months.
I could do a short-term or I could do a 14-year deal.
So we'll see.
We have a lot of people that get a lot of good people around.
unidentified
Can I ask you a construction question, Killing?
That was a stock defense rate with Switzerland.
It was pretty higher than other European countries.
donald j trump
Well, the problem with Switzerland, we have a $40 billion deficit with Switzerland.
And I spoke yesterday to Switzerland, but we have a $40 billion deficit with Switzerland.
That's a big deficit.
unidentified
Question on the Construction.
Can I ask you a question on the Construction?
You say you're raising $200 million.
You're donating a bunch of desired stuff.
Are you blocking foreigners from donating money to build that edition?
donald j trump
Honestly, I never even thought of it, but it doesn't matter.
I'm putting up my money.
But it doesn't even matter.
They've wanted a ballroom at the White House, and it's been very popular.
You know, when we put it out yesterday.
I'm not looking for that.
You know, you have very strong restrictions as to who can donate, and we go by the restrictions.
I mean, it's not that much money.
unidentified
It's funny, but it's not a good question.
donald j trump
Yeah, I'll do that.
I didn't even start yet, by the way, but when I do, I'll release it.
Maybe one, me.
unidentified
You would cut that check yourself.
donald j trump
I would, yeah.
unidentified
Didn't you talk to James McConnell today about his journey to Gaza?
Did you talk to Steve Woodhouse?
donald j trump
I did.
I spoke to Steve Woodcock.
He had a great meeting with a lot of people, and the primary meeting was on food.
And he also had some other conversations that I'll tell you about later.
But he had a meeting on getting the people fed, and that's what we want.
And I'll see you later on.
Well, I understand India no longer is going to be buying oil from Russia.
That's what I heard.
I don't know if that's right or not, but that's a good step.
We'll see what happens.
Okay.
unidentified
How is your health tariff?
On terrorists obviously the Treasury is taking in so much ready right now.
Some Republicans have been pushing for a tariff check to go out.
The basic idea is move the money back.
donald j trump
There are a lot of people that would like to see us do sort of a dividend to the people of our country.
It's something I'd consider.
unidentified
How much would they do?
donald j trump
I'd also want, I'd want to pay off debt, but there's a possibility I do a dividend.
unidentified
That's not the only thing.
I know, sorry, Chris.
steve bannon
On tariffs, obviously, there's that unbelievable right there is the press gaggle of the president going out to Marine One, out to Marine One, to Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base and then up to Bedminster.
Bedminster is his New Jersey summer home.
Absolutely magnificent, an incredible golf course and country club there that he's put a lot of money into to refurbish and just made top the line.
And he really enjoys himself there.
Although this weekend, I hope it clears up.
It's not the rainy, muggy summer we've had so far.
Okay, so a lot of news there.
I mean, this is a great thing about these press gaggles, these availabilities.
I mean, who does that?
Did Obama ever do that?
No.
Did George Bush ever do that?
No.
Did Biden ever do that?
Forget about it.
That's so ridiculous.
Can't even contemplate an answer.
Look at President Trump on every topic, just off the top of his head, understands and knows when to pull it back and say, hey, I'll give you some information on that later.
The situation in Gaza.
Okay.
About half the questions about the termination of the Bureau of Labor Statistics head about screwed up numbers.
Where did we hear that before?
I don't know.
In the war room every month for the last four years from a guy named E.J. Antonio.
Let's go and play a cold open for EJ, who's going to join us briefly.
Let's go ahead and let it rip.
Complained about it.
And that is the Bureau of Labor Statistics and whether we get accurate numbers.
Now, everybody's talking about the number here.
It's a quarter of a million jobs.
They're like on the downside.
It turns out we didn't get, and now it's a restatement.
What in the hell is going on there?
And have we put in our own person into BLS?
Is there a mega Republican that President Trump knows and trusts?
Are they running the Bureau of Labor Statistics yet, sir?
ej antoni
No, unfortunately, Steve, we still haven't gotten there.
And I think that's part of the reason why we continue to have all of these different data problems.
You know, the guy we had previously, Bill Beach, is actually a great guy, brilliant statistician.
And he recognized some of the problems that we had in the data.
He was taking steps to fix that.
But unfortunately, he was removed by the Biden administration.
He's not there anymore.
And he's been replaced by someone who, frankly, I think is incompetent.
And that shows with the fact that the problems in the statistics that first became evident all the way back in the spring of 2022, those problems are still there.
And if we can go to the first chart here, I think really helps illustrate that, where essentially what you can see is the fact that the disparity between the number of people who are saying they have a job, who are employed, that's in brown there, versus the line in gray is the number of non-farm payrolls we have.
As you can see, before the pandemic, they tracked very, very well together.
But since then, they've really started to spread apart.
And that problem has never actually been fixed.
In other words, we're not correctly estimating either the number of people with jobs or the number of actual jobs in the country or both.
unidentified
Henrietta, starting with you, the Commissioner of Labor Statistics, fired by the president, in Trump's words, for faking the jobs numbers and, quote, manipulating them for political purposes.
Let's just fact check that.
henrietta treyz
This is offensive in the extreme.
When we traffic in economic circles, I mean, I speak with chief economists, folks at BLS, Federal Reserve folks, Treasury folks, all day, every day, and I have for 15 years now.
What is happening here is about the worst case scenario that you could envision.
Our data collection, our statisticians, our professors, the economists at all these agencies are the envy of the world in terms of their data collection.
And it really recalls to me Trump's first term when he started telegraphing that he felt like democracy was a disadvantage versus President Xi's situation and a communist governing system wherein he can famously manipulate the data coming out of China.
And he Trump viewed that as a disadvantage that the United States had to adhere to because we have open, free data collection and reporting that is outside of his purview.
And that's what he's undermining today.
And it is about the worst thing you can do in economic circles right now.
ed elson
I thought I was going to come on here and talk about tariffs because that was the news that we were reacting to.
unidentified
We all are.
ed elson
And to be completely honest, five minutes ago, I learned about what happened here.
So I'm reacting in real time.
And I think my initial reaction is this is what cartoon dictators do.
You know, if you don't like the data, you say that the data is lying.
You blame the numbers.
And I'm just, I'm amazed at how shameless all of this is.
And it is true.
It rings true of what happens in China, where you have an authoritarian regime where if economists speak out and say that there's anything wrong going on with the economy, suddenly the economist disappears and we don't know what happened to them.
And so I don't want to start getting a law missed, but it is exactly what you would imagine a dictator in a Marvel movie would start to do.
That is my live, honest reaction.
I'm going to keep paying attention to what's happening to the markets.
We've seen a lot of taco-type reactions from the markets thus far.
The market's saying, okay, we don't really believe you.
It's fine.
He's not really going to do it.
I mean, first he said July 9th was the deadline, then August 5th.
Now he's pushing it to August 7th.
But with this, I don't know.
Maybe this cuts it.
I'm not sure.
steve bannon
Okay, these people haven't looked at this over the years.
Remember, every month we have EJ come on and he goes back to how they've downgraded numbers for they want under Biden they want to put up a big employment number and then later kind of tuck it in as Eric Bowling Said when we did the handoff.
E.J. Antoni joins us right now.
E.J., walk us through what today means.
You've criticized this now for years.
You really did a very detailed job today.
The president shortly thereafter terminated the head.
Put it in perspective.
Where are we, sir?
ej antoni
Well, Steve, I think we're certainly in a better place.
And what today demonstrates is just how powerful this show and its audience is, quite frankly, and also the fact that the president is among the audience, clearly, because it was this show that brought the issue to his attention.
So what this really means is the fact that we are holding federal bureaucrats accountable.
I mean, this woman oversaw a survey with a response rate of 42%.
The majority of people don't even respond to the survey.
That's why we have had such irrational, or I should say such irregular responses.
That is why we have had such inconsistent results here and why we have needed such massive revisions.
On top of that, it's also clear that the models and the methodologies need to be revised.
That is the ones that compute these actual jobs reports.
That has not been done, despite the fact that for a little over three years now, there has been evidence of significant problems in the statistics.
So I would say if there's any big takeaway from this, it's the fact that this president is holding federal bureaucrats accountable.
It's not a matter of the jobs report today wasn't as good as the president wanted it to be.
The people who are alleging that are basically making, or they're basically playing politics with the situation, okay?
The reality is the president is not happy with the inconsistencies in the numbers.
He's not happy with the unreliability of the data.
And he's going to put somebody into that position now, I hope, who is going to make sure that that is the priority.
It's not a matter of making the numbers look good.
It's a matter of them being accurate.
steve bannon
EJ Antonio, Putchers, I know you're out.
Thank you for stepping out of your meeting to call us.
Big day and monumental for you.
Social media so people can now follow you more closely, sir.
ej antoni
It's going to be on X, and the handle there is at RealEJ Antonio.
And Steve, thank you so much seriously for having me today so we could highlight this issue for the president.
It's because of you, your show, this platform, that something happened.
steve bannon
E.J. Antonio, thank you very much.
Very kind words.
Audience is very focused on that.
We've talked about this now for years.
Air Force One right there, pulling away the they're pulling away the ramp.
President Trump's going to take off.
Are we going to blow the break or just go it's Denver's calling this?
I would love to stay with it, but just stay with it if we can to see it taxi out.
Maybe we will anyway.
Okay, let's go to break and we'll come back and see the president lift off.
Came too late for that.
I have two recommendations.
A governorship on the board of the Federal Reserve came available today with a resignation.
What about Judy Shelton for that?
Did I have the audience in on that?
Judy Shelton for the governorship of the Fed?
And E.J. Antoni to head up the Bureau of Labor Statistics, a straight shooting guy.
Sound good?
Warren Posse, you've been on it.
Mike Lee knows you're on it.
Got his back.
Brian Harrison down in Texas.
We're going to get a vote tonight or tomorrow at that committee.
Fixed bayonets.
Let's get up on the ramparts.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
President Trump's at Andrews Air Force Base aboard Air Force One.
He is heading to Bedminster, his summer home.
We will spend the weekend working.
Short commercial break.
Back in a moment.
kimberlyn king-hinds
I had a chat with Representative Mass out of Florida.
And, you know, it was recommended to me to develop a relationship with Congressman Mass because he has direct ear of the president and often travels down to Florida because the president goes down there to Mar-a-Largo, right?
On Air Force One with the president.
So he has the ear of the president.
And I went up to him and I was like, listen, you know, I hear this about you.
I need some help.
This is the situation, right?
And, you know, coincidentally, the following day, the following day, I'm getting messages from the tour operators here on the ground that we're seeing movement in terms of the processing.
And on, you know, the following morning, I had a transportation and infrastructure meeting.
So I went up and I was like, hey, I don't know if it's a coincidence, but here we are.
I just wanted to say thank you, right?
And what he tells me is that, listen, we're not anti-China.
We want their money.
You know, there's a clear differentiation between national security concerns and wanting money, right?
And what this is about, at the end of the day, is money.
steve bannon
Whoa.
Whoa, hang on.
My head's blown up.
By the way, that's Air Force 2.
I think I got my glasses on now.
I think it's Air Force 2 or even lower than that.
Because it's a short hop.
You don't need Air Force One.
It's a short hop.
You also can take a much smaller contingent of both the press pool and even White House staff.
So we'll watch that.
That's at Andrews Air Force Base is what we would call, not Joint Base, Andrew.
Come on, man, Andrews.
It's Andrews Air Force Base.
So the president getting ready to leave.
We're going to watch that in its entirety.
Why don't we bring, so I'm going to do some directing here, right?
Let's get Cleo up and let's get her in the box, not me, just Cleo.
People know my lovely voice.
Cleo, you get to share the screen with the President of the United States and Air Force 2 getting ready to leave Andrews to go to Bedminster for his weekend.
Explain to the audience who was that person, because there was more bad information given right there.
No, Brian Mass is a congressman.
He's a war veteran.
I think he's a double amputee.
He's a great guy.
I have some big problems with him.
He wore his IDF uniform or some IDF uniform to Congress one time, which I thought was very inappropriate.
But he's a solid guy, but he's a backbencher, right?
So she's sitting there saying, oh, Brian Mass told me, and this is what we want, everything like that.
We don't want, and we're not going to tolerate these Chinese nationals coming through and blowing through there.
And who made the comment, we want their money?
You know, what do you mean, we want their money?
And that's what this, this, this is a national, this is a national security issue between the United States and the CCP.
And it's very important.
The folks out there got to understand a lot of people are got their eyeballs on this now.
And in fact, to the degree that it's important enough for us with everything we've got going in the war room, we're going to actually stream live the state funeral of the governor starting at 7 p.m. Eastern Time, and which I will host.
Cleo, what's going on, ma'am?
cleo paskal
Thank you.
So, yes, I'm here in the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas, and the governor's funeral is going to start in a little over an hour.
I wanted you to see what it's like because it's beautiful here, and he loved, he loved it.
He loved the people, he loved the place.
Come visit.
This is one of the most beautiful parts of the United States.
The person that you just saw speaking is the representative to Congress of the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.
So she represents here in Congress.
And the processing she was talking about was the speeding up of the entry of Chinese coming in without a visa.
They've got this other program called EVS TAP, which the Chinese used to come in with no visa.
And now they realize that wouldn't fly.
So they've got this EVS TAP thing, which is they call enhanced vetting.
It's enhanced more than zero, but they want it because it's easier for them to get in.
And just so that you know, because the argument is always, oh, it takes too long with the B1B2.
I checked on the State Department website.
Currently, if you're in Delhi and you want to apply for a B1B2 visa, the wait time is about five and a half months.
They do it in month increments.
And if you're in Beijing, the wait is zero months.
So there's no logical reason why they can't just go and apply for a visa like everybody else, every other Chinese coming to every other part of the United States.
But what she was talking about there, somebody, a professor from the U.S. Naval War College, Colonel John Atkinson, saw that and was like, she does not understand how national security works.
If she thinks this is just about the money, she doesn't understand how the Chinese operate.
She doesn't understand what goes into political warfare.
This is a complete misunderstanding and I would hope a mischaracterization of what Congress and Mass said and believes.
And she is hurting her colleagues.
This is a piece of film that if somebody was running against Mass, they now have a legitimate question about do you support Chinese coming into the U.S. without a visa.
Would you like me to pause while the president takes off?
steve bannon
No, no, no.
It's good.
There's a president right there.
cleo paskal
I feel a little risky.
steve bannon
I should hope right there.
I feel like I should be more than happy to see that.
No, no, no.
The president's very interested in your topic.
So he's leaving right there.
Wheels up.
Very fantastic.
I think hopefully we're going to grab some footage.
It's not long.
I think it's quite short flight.
So within the confines of the show, we'll be able to show you President Trump arriving, maybe even to another availability or gaggle.
The one on the lawn of the White House was just spectacular.
I'll get into some of that in a moment.
No, Cleo, because I want to make sure you make the, you're on time for the funeral.
No, this is, I'm sure Mass.
Look, Mass is a national security guy.
Now, he's very focused on Israel, but I think he's been very strong against the anti-CCP, you know, one of the contingent.
I'm sure he was misinterpreted.
But here's, I just want the audience to understand something.
You've taken a flight to Tokyo and then down to the Northern Marianas Islands.
You're how many hours by jet away from the United States, and you're in the United States.
I want everybody to know this.
This is not us going to look in the Eurasian landmass or the Middle East and looking for trouble.
This is the territory of the United States of America, and there's been more blood, American blood, shed per square inch of this territory than any place else in the world, except for maybe the battlefields of Antietam and Gettysburg and Coal Harbor.
Maybe I'll throw that in there.
This is sacred.
These are sacred.
If you believe in the greatest generation, if you believe the sacredness of their cause, what they gave their lives for, the Northern Marianas Islands and those islands in the Pacific, which those people opted to stay as part of the United States when they saw the brutality of what Japan tried to do in the co-you know, the co-prosperity sphere, and they see the CCPs trying to do the same thing.
This is why this is so important.
And this is why this governor was kind of revered.
He knew the dangers of doing this.
And right now, to be looking for they could come in.
Could somebody get on a plane in Saipan or somebody could get on a plane and just come to California, come to Hawaii, come into the United States once they get there unvetted, ma'am?
cleo paskal
So they're technically not supposed to leave here without the Chinese are not supposed to leave here, but they're illegally going by boat to Guam, at least in the hundreds.
And we know that they're illegally buying U.S. IDs here in CNMI.
The woman that ran the Bureau of Motor Vehicles was convicted specifically of selling U.S. driver's licenses to Chinese who were here unlawfully.
It cost, in case you're curious, about $1,700 for a U.S. driver's license and $300 for a renewal.
And if you can see that building towering over the hotel behind me, that's the Chinese casino that I was standing in front of before.
You can see that casino from pretty much everywhere you are in downtown Garapan, which is the capital.
And if I may, just very quickly, in that longer interview, she also talks about Jim Jordan being very supportive of her EVS TAP program.
And we know that Congressman Nels wrote a letter in support of it.
So I don't know what she's saying to her congressional colleagues, but I don't think she's saying, please support letting Chinese into the U.S. without a visa.
And what's interesting is I would like to know who recommended she target mast, if that's indeed what happened.
And also, this is her number one legislative agenda.
If she was to approach, if this did happen, she could have asked for anything.
She could have asked for cabotage waivers, which would have helped the tourism sector in other ways.
She could have helped, asked for a million different things.
But what she wanted was this.
She wanted Chinese to be able to get in to the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas with less vetting.
steve bannon
Very, very suspicious.
And she should understand we're not backbenchers and we're going to make this a big deal.
Cleo, just give us the order of battle of what's going to happen today with the state funeral.
cleo paskal
So the state funeral, which will be live streamed, starts in about an hour and 15 minutes.
This is a very religious part of the country, mostly Catholic.
They were colonized for about 300 years by Spain, so then there will be a mass.
Then his body will be taken to the cemetery.
And this is the cemetery, this part of the U.S. has had a hard time with cemetery space.
They're burying them four people deep.
And one of the things that Governor Palacios was very, he really, he really loved his people, and he wanted them to have a dignified resting place.
And he has been working for a long time to get a public cemetery open.
And yesterday, there was a consecration ceremony for the public cemetery.
And Governor Palacios will be the first person laid to rest there.
It's at the foot of Suicide Cliffs, which is where the Japanese threw themselves off of during the Battle of Saipan.
But it's a very beautiful, peaceful spot.
And the key speaker at the consecration of that was one of the highest level people to come out from Washington that I've seen so far, which was the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Insular Affairs, who used to be the legislative director for Representative King Hines, who you just saw.
He also was involved in writing legislation to enable this casino to come in with a lessening of the bonds.
So you've got the highest-ranking person, and he's originally from here, but he's currently working as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Insular Affairs at the Department of Interior, who is what was Washington's face at the consecration of this cemetery for where Governor Palacios will be the first person laid to rest.
So when you're watching the service, keep an eye out for Angel Demopan, the Deputy Assistant Secretary, and remember that he was very involved in facilitating the entry of the Chinese casino.
He was the chief of staff for the governor whose family made money selling, leasing land at inflated profits for the casino, and he was legislative director for King Hines, who may also be speaking at the funeral.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Cleo, of course, one of the suicide cliff was not just the Japanese Army, but many civilians.
The propaganda had been, they've given so much propaganda about the American forces, they threw themselves off and killed themselves instead of surrendering.
They would not surrender in Saipan, as in many of the places in the Pacific.
American territory all.
Cleo, social media.
We'll see in about, we're going to start streaming here at 7 o'clock.
I'll be hosting this.
We're going to stream the entire service, including the burial.
We think it was that important in this battle against the Chinese Communist Party.
Your social media, ma'am.
cleo paskal
Thank you.
I'm on X, just my name, Cleo Pascal, CLEO, P-A-S-K-A-L.
And I have to, many people have come up to me here and have been grateful for the war room coverage.
And they've felt quite abandoned.
And if you want, you can go.
The main media here is Mariannis Variety.
They have a Facebook page, and you can leave messages of condolences.
But just knowing that you care has made an enormous difference to many people here.
steve bannon
Well, thank you and thank them.
It's a way we honor the greatest generation and also the new young greatest generation that's coming up in back of us to fight all this.
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
We're going to take a short break here.
Natalie's going to join me on the other side.
First question I'm going to ask Natalie, given that she's, from the time she's 17 years old, become one of the top investigative reporters in the world about the Chinese Communist Party.
There's no problem letting Chinese nationals in with no visas, totally unvetted into the United States of America.
If one thing you can take away from what we're doing here in this situation is that, you know, in the Battle of the Pacific and the war in the Pacific, these islands were so important.
There's so much American bloodshed for these.
So many boys from Kansas and Missouri and Virginia and New York City and the Bronx and Chicago.
They gave their lives for this for a reason and a purpose.
And we're going to make sure we honor it.
A short commercial break.
Natalie Winters on the other side.
unidentified
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP.
Hey!
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Okay, we want to thank Cleo.
Right there is the president.
That is Allentown, Pennsylvania.
I sure had not to get involved in New York airspace on a Friday afternoon.
They're going to Allentown the other direction.
It's about an hour away from Bedminster by car.
I would hope that they would have one of the, they would pre-deploy, forward deploy one of the, look at that landing right there, Air Force 2.
That they would have one of the helicopters sort of taken.
We'll see all this.
This is Allentown, Pennsylvania, about an hour away from Bedminster.
We'll be able to hopefully cover this entire thing for the duration of the show.
There you go.
Natalie Winters joins us.
Natalie, given your research over the last, I don't know, six or seven years, you don't see any problem at all with allowing Chinese nationals into Saipan, Guam, other places, unvetted with no visas, ma'am, to kind of wander around and do what they want anywhere they want, anytime they want.
natalie winters
I would say while we're at it, let's let them make up, what, like 50% of the Harvard and Duke graduating class.
But I think we're probably already approaching those numbers.
But you and I know it, right?
It's infiltration, not invasion.
And obviously, we say that World War III, the kinetic part, hasn't necessarily started yet, at least in the context of China.
But I think if you look not just the numbers of the people who are crossing into the United States, either through the open southern border or through these sort of proxy cutout territories.
I mean, these are people who have military backgrounds.
Remember, it was the Biden regime that overturned, stopped the really vetting of these people asking if they had any weapons training, if they had ties to the PLA.
And frankly, I mean, think about all the weird train derailments that we had under Joe Biden.
If you look at all the, I think, critical infrastructure attacks, whether it's the hacking or the weird, you know, batteries and the solar panels that they've been hacking into.
It's all part of a broader plan that I think we've really been sounding the alarm over for years.
steve bannon
Natalie, how do they take our elite seriously?
How do they take it seriously?
I mean, to get into Shanghai, even to get in Hong Kong, it's hermetically sealed.
They know everybody.
They got the face recognition.
It's a total surveillance site.
You know, there's no piano plan.
These are hermetically sealed entities.
How can they take it seriously when you have a situation in the Western Pacific with our territories where they can just go in?
And you know the graph.
You just heard Cleo talk about, you know, one of the officials there was selling California driver's license at $1,700 a pop because as soon as you got a driver's license, you know, you can do everything, including voting.
I mean, how are they supposed to take us seriously when we're so open and so soft and they're so hermetically sealed and rock hard, ma'am?
natalie winters
Well, look, Steve, I think the answer to this question dovetails with what you're probably going to ask me next, which is what have we done on the treason front?
What have we done on the Chinese Communist Party spy front?
I mean, think about Eric Swalwell or Hunter Biden, right?
They're obviously kind of the laughingstock examples of Chinese Communist Party infiltration.
But there are dozens, if not hundreds of people like them in the highest levels of government, as Cleo was alluding to, the people who have embedded and burrowed in, even in the Trump administration, that are proxies of the Chinese Communist Party.
It's not just ideological compromise, it's monetary compromise, it's blackmail, right?
It's the whole gamut that I think we've really honed in on.
And to your point, you know, I wanted to come on and give us some good news about what they're doing on the treason front, on the Obama front, on the Russia gate front.
But unfortunately, I can't sit here and give you that.
You have breaking news coming from Laura Loomer.
I know we're pulling that, but if we want to, I guess we won't cut away from that.
But if we can, if we do, scroll the tweet and let's see who the Trump administration is considering putting in as the deputy director of the NSA.
That's John Edwards, the former chief information officer at the CIA under Obama.
I mean, full stop.
Why are we even considering people who worked in the Intel agencies, Intel community under Obama, under a president that weaponized against the American people?
If you actually read his personal bio, he actually says that you guessed it.
Director Brennan personally asked him to come back and work at the CIA.
Laura also reports her source is telling her that he and John Brennan are so close that they actually vacationed together.
And this is the guy who now is going to be essentially what the number two over at NSA.
But, Steve, the signal, not noise here.
What really got this whole Russia Gate thing started when Tulsi was declassifying these documents?
It was that Obama refused to release the presidential daily brief on December 9th of 2016 because it showed that there was no evidence of Russia collusion.
Now that they're trying to jam through this obviously Brennan Apparachi, Brennan crony into the upper echelons, if not the most upper echelons of the NSA, which, as you know, is responsible for the overwhelming majority of what's contained in the presidential daily brief.
I mean, this is not just a cover-up.
This is, I'm sorry, do you think Joe Biden would consider anyone from the Trump administration for any position, let alone the number two over at the NSA?
Absolutely not.
Last time I checked, they tried to what debank, disbar like Jeff Clark, and absolutely destroy anyone who is even tangentially associated with the MAGA movement, even if it was for just one day on January 6th.
I don't understand why it takes Laura Loomer to have to vet these people, right?
This should be a no-go from the start, but this is something, I mean, this is an issue that I think really, really matters, right?
Personnel is policy.
How in the heck are you going to hold John Brennan to account when his buddy is busy, probably being promoted, if not outright elevated to the number two position at the NSA, potentially as we speak?
That's not accountability.
That's not retribution.
That's laying the groundwork for retribution against MAGA, which is not what I voted for.
steve bannon
Natalie, give your social media.
Thank you for carving out some time to jump on here because I want to get this update.
Thank you so much.
What's your social media?
Where can people track you down over the weekend?
natalie winters
You always say I take a long time to get ready.
I think you take a longer time than I do.
unidentified
It's Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.
natalie winters
Thanks, Steve.
Have a good weekend.
steve bannon
I need more.
I need more hair and makeup.
Natalie Winters, thank you so much, man.
I appreciate you.
Great job as usual.
I want to thank Clear.
We're going to pick up Clear Pascal in the seven o'clock hour.
I'm trying to track down Laurel over there.
President's Plane, Air Force 2, right there.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
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Oh, we're taking a gold clock.
Okay, fine.
I'm taking it all the way to the top.
Let's give.
I tell you, let me.
I want to hold Trevor Comstock over into the next hour.
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We're going to stick right here for about another minute.
We're going to go take a hard break at the top, right?
I'm looking for my producer to give me ignos.
There we are.
Okay, we'll take a hard break at the top.
The president's plane is there.
They may be deboarding on the other side.
There we go, right here.
See the president leave.
You still want to go to break?
You want to cover this?
Oh, toss it just.
Okay, fine.
We'll keep it on this.
Here's what we'll go to the other.
Right now, John Solomon and Amanda Head are going to pick it up.
Adjust the news right there.
We're going to keep that shot.
President of the United States will come at momentarily.
He is in Allentown, Pennsylvania at the airport.
Gonna leave and go to Bedminster from there to start his weekend, working weekend.
We're gonna continue on Getter, Rumble, our other platforms and streaming services with Real America's Voice.
And we've got there's the President of the United States.
What a way to end the show right there.
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