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July 31, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4674: Biden Speaks At The National Bar Association; Working Through August Recess
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mike davis
07:58
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natalie winters
10:03
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steve bannon
14:13
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chuck grassley
02:15
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hakeem jeffries
01:01
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harry enten
01:39
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phillip patrick
04:32
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shimon prokupecz
02:49
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brian harrison
00:46
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brianna keilar
00:16
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mike lindell
00:42
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w b thomas
00:28
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brianna keilar
The July 4th flash floods killed more than 130 people, including dozens of children, and nearly all of the deaths were in Kerr County.
Today, its emergency management coordinator confirmed he was out sick when the flooding began, saying his illness began on July 2nd.
w b thomas
I had already requested and been approved for personal time off on July the 3rd to fulfill a commitment to my elderly father.
However, due to my progressing illness, I remained home to recover.
I stayed in bed throughout July the 3rd and did not participate in the regularly scheduled 10 a.m. and 3 p.m.
Texas Emergency Management Coordination Center coordination calls.
My supervisors and sheriff's office leadership were aware that I was off duty.
unidentified
Apparently, based on my reading of it, these documents were stored in an annex.
I don't know where that is or who oversees it.
And they were being kept in burn bags, which I assume is material that's set to be incinerated.
What's the truth?
What's happening?
What did you see in the documents?
chuck grassley
Well, you see, you're bringing attention to the burn bag to me for the first time, and I'll leave that up to the FBI to describe, but I think it's evidence of the great depth that the deep state will go to to cover up weaponization that was going on in the FBI and the executive branch of government generally under the Obama administration.
And I want to thank Cash Patel of the FBI and Pan Bondi, our Attorney General, for releasing these documents because after eight years, and it took us three years to get this information, but after eight years, I think we need maximum transparency on all the schemes that were going on 10 years ago to either stop Trump from being elected or after he was elected to ruin his presidency.
And that's what this Durham report is all about.
And it gives information that Comey FBI had eight, ten years ago that they never followed up on.
And it actually brings attention to the fact that there was either a Clinton conspiracy to make this happen or a Russian disinformation.
But either way, it was an attempt to stop Trump.
And it also proves that the FBI had a hand in it.
And now after these eight years, three years of my trying to get the document, we know that there was the steel dossier paid for by the Democrats and the Clinton campaign, that it was all effort of total distraction and to make it look like Russia was playing a very major role in helping Trump to be elected.
And now we know none of that was true.
And now with this Durham report annex out, it finally proves that the FBI was covering up.
shimon prokupecz
Yeah, look, Brianna, it's very clear what's happening here.
You know, you listen to that sound that we're hearing there from the emergency coordinator.
It's just passing the buck.
That's what's going on here.
And very clear that this was a county, Kerr County, where Mystic Camp was, where all those RV parks were, where all the people were streaming in for the July 4th events, was not prepared.
They were not on any phone calls from the Texas Department of Emergency Management, while other counties were.
They ignored emails to get on calls.
And this is what I asked the mayor about.
I asked him, because I have been asking the mayor of this, and I have been asking county officials, were they on calls here with the Texas Department of Emergency Management, which was making preparations for this storm.
And when I caught up with the mayor today, just before this hearing, which is taking place behind me, I asked him, did you see that email at 1 o'clock in the morning saying for you to get on a call on July the 3rd with Texas Department of Management officials to get on a call to talk about the weather concerns?
He said he missed that email.
Take a listen to some of what else he said to me.
unidentified
And I did not receive a telephone call.
shimon prokupecz
I did receive an invitation.
unidentified
Okay.
I wish I'd seen it, but I didn't see it.
shimon prokupecz
You didn't see the invitation.
unidentified
I did not.
shimon prokupecz
Your emails that were released.
unidentified
They were there.
shimon prokupecz
They were there.
It was at 1 a.m. that you got an email.
unidentified
At 1 a.m.?
shimon prokupecz
Yeah.
unidentified
I didn't know that.
shimon prokupecz
Texas Department of Emergency Management saying that there'd be a call at 10 a.m.
unidentified
Okay.
I didn't see those emails.
I'm sorry.
shimon prokupecz
And then later in the day, they sent an email with the decks.
I think it was like in the afternoon.
unidentified
Right.
phillip patrick
And you review those.
shimon prokupecz
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
And they say at moderate risk, about the four inches of red.
shimon prokupecz
But like, I guess had you seen that email, you would have been on the call, right?
unidentified
I would have been on the call.
I take responsibility for missing the email.
I do.
shimon prokupecz
And look, this is significant because finally we're getting some acknowledgement that perhaps things could have been better here, that the preparation could have been better.
And why this is important, why this is important here, is because there is a person sitting at the table behind me here at this hearing who's from a neighboring county.
What he just said just a short time ago was that the reason why that county took this so much more seriously was that they were in contact with the Texas Department of Emergency Management.
And it was based off of that they had some concern that this was going to be worse.
That did not happen in Kerk County and in Kerrville.
None of the officials, it appears from everything we know now, were in contact with the National Weather Service and the day before with the Texas Department of Emergency Management.
And there was a member of the legislator who asked a very significant question.
I'm going to wrap with this.
He said, that's fine.
What you guys did on the day of on July 4th, the rescues, yes.
But it is a question of what did you do to prevent the loss of life.
And that remains still a big question.
hakeem jeffries
In this great country, our system that was gifted to us by the framers of the Constitution should be one where the people of Texas are able to decide which elected officials have the ability and honor to represent them in Washington.
Instead, Republican politicians want to choose their voters.
That is wrong.
And it will undermine the quality of life of the people of this great state.
It has been said in the early days of the Republic that when the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
But when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
So this fight is not over.
It's just beginning.
harry enten
Yeah, it could make a huge difference.
This, in fact, could win or maintain control for the Republicans in the House of Representatives.
What are you talking about?
Well, Texas has 38 congressional districts.
Look at those that Trump won last year by at least 10 percentage points.
Under the current lines, it's 25.
Under the proposed lines, it's 30.
That's one, two, three, four, five.
Five potential pickup opportunities for the Republican Party.
They are playing hardball at this particular point.
And right now, it seems to me that Democrats are actually playing close to the Little League peewee.
So five seats.
unidentified
What would five seats in Texas do for Republicans in Congress overall?
harry enten
You might think five seats is just five seats, but keep in mind this.
Margins are spare for the House majority.
In 2020, the Democrats had four seats.
2022, Republicans had four seats.
This time around, two seats for Republicans out of the 2024 elections.
Five seats can make all the difference in the world.
And that is why Republicans in Texas providing five pickup seat opportunities could, in fact, make the difference between Republicans losing control of the House of Representatives and maintaining control of the House of Representatives.
unidentified
And some voting shifts within Texas might be adding fuel to this.
harry enten
Exactly right.
They wouldn't necessarily be able to do this if, in fact, Republicans, Donald Trump did not do so much better among Latino voters last time around than he did in 2020 because four of the pickup opportunities are majority Hispanic seats.
In 2024, get this?
Donald Trump actually won Latino voters by 10 points in Texas.
In 2020, it was Joe Biden who won him by 17 points.
That's nearly a 30-point switcheroo.
So this, in my mind, is fueling these potential pickup opportunities for Republicans.
As I said at the beginning of this, Republicans are playing hardball.
It's going to be interesting to see if Democrats can actually answer this or are they going to be stuck in the little loop.
steve bannon
Thursday, 31 July Year of Our Lord 2025.
We've got so much we can't get to our open today.
I want to thank that cold open.
Absolutely magnificent.
And Harry Enton.
hakeem jeffries
Wow.
steve bannon
Is he dropping truth bombs right there?
A 30-point shift.
Four of the five pickups are Hispanic, big Hispanic concentrations and majorities.
And two of them are down where he heard this in the Rio Grande Valley, folks.
So they're focused on this.
We've got so much to go through.
We are jam-packed for the next two hours.
So just buckle in.
And as you know, we've got the recess appointments, all this stuff going on.
I've got Mike Davis and Natalie Starf because I do want to get into the bombshells that were dropped today.
And Mike, we've got some work we're going to do with you on Jeff Clark and some other things in a moment.
But I just want to go, you know Grassley, the man, better than anybody.
And people in the Senate right now are a little put off because President Trump kind of went off on him about the blue slips.
And once again, I don't think President Trump's being quite pro.
I don't think he's being properly briefed on this issue with the blue slips, but he went off on Grassley.
But Grassley showed what a bulldog he is.
Three years, and you know how relentless he can be, three years to basically get declassified the Durham Annex or Appendix, which has got so many bombshells in it for Hillary Clinton, Brennan Clapper, the whole crew.
Tell us about Grassley the man, sir.
mike davis
I worked for Senator Chuck Grassley twice.
I opened his mail right out of college, and then I was his chief counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee 17 years later.
I talked to Senator Grassley yesterday.
I talked to him today.
He is the same man he has been for, what, 65 years in politics, and he's never lost an election.
He is dogged.
He is determined.
He is principled.
And when he says he's going to do something, he's going to do it, as we just saw with his release of these crossfire hurricane records.
When I've been coming on your show, Steve, and we've been talking about how the Mar-a-Lago raid was to get back these damning crossfire hurricane records, and then the subsequent lawfare was to try to shut up, to bankrupt, to imprison, to even get President Trump killed.
It's because of these crossfire hurricane records.
This is the biggest scandal in American history.
And when I have been saying on your show with you for three years, that these lawfare Democrats better lawyer up.
This is what I mean by this.
These records that are coming out show that President Obama, Vice President Biden, Hillary Clinton, the CIA, the Justice Department, including the FBI, they made up the Russian collusion hoax.
They made it up to help Hillary Clinton's campaign and to destroy President Trump's campaign.
And when they failed, they tried to destroy his presidency when he declassified these crossfire hurricane records and tried to get them out before he left office in 2021.
They've tried to destroy him.
This is all coming out.
This is all an ongoing criminal conspiracy against rights at a minimum, much, much worse maybe under 18 USC Section 241.
I promise you that people are going to go to prison.
So that's going to happen.
Nobody is above the law.
Presidential immunity for Obama may apply while he's in the White House.
It certainly does not apply To President Obama when he's continuing to cover up a criminal conspiracy as the former president after he left the White House.
And I think President Trump made a big mistake in his first term by not prosecuting Hillary Clinton.
And I don't think they're going to make that mistake this time.
steve bannon
We're going to go to break.
You know, Grassley, you know how dogged he is.
People I know in the intelligence area and investigative area, and Natalie's going to join us here in a moment.
I have said, hey, this, beyond a shadow of a doubt, we can move very quickly.
Does this, do you believe what you've seen so far?
And the reason Grassley was so dogged on this is that the Mar-a-Lago raid now, you feel pretty comfortable with what you originally said, that the Mar-a-Lago raid had nothing to do with President Trump taking some classified stuff from the archives.
It was all about going down and anything, getting information away from him.
You think that you think that this supports what you've seen so far, and this declassification supports that?
mike davis
Well, 100%, or I wouldn't have said it.
I've been saying this for three years and my nearly 5,000 media heads supporting and defending President Trump and many of them on your show, Steve.
And I know I'm crazy.
I'll fully concede that, but I'm almost always right.
And I know I'm right here.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short break.
Natalie Winters is with us.
She's drilled down on what's been released so far.
Mike Davis is going to stick with us.
Also, Mike Davis had an event last night about, this is about confirmation.
This is what Mike Davis's gig for us in the first term was to do this.
We had Mike Lee on today.
Are they going to go home?
Are they going to agree to Mike Lee's plan?
Are they going to give us a recess appointment?
So we've got to get these people.
And if you saw the power and energy last night of Butterworths with Emil Bovey and Judge Janine and people like Joe Kemp, people just gotten confirmed.
President Trump needs his team.
Short commercial break.
We're going to return to the warm in just a moment.
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A couple of things.
Number one, a very raw and tough hearing today in Kerrville.
I mean, there's got to be some answers, folks, particularly if you are a parent of one of those little girls or in the community.
Very raw and very tough.
We're going to spend more time on that tomorrow.
But I got to tell you, there were not a lot of great answers coming.
And I think people are going to get very, very upset at what's happening down there.
I want to get to, oh, we got an update.
We're trying to get Brian Harrison up there.
I think we're going to have good news because you, this audience, are putting tons of pressure down in Texas.
You saw Hakeem Jeffries down there.
And by the way, the Hakeem Jeffries go full tea party on us?
Did Hakeem Jeffries use the quote that when the government, when the when the government fears the people, there's liberty?
Hakeem, my man, get him a Gaston flag.
unidentified
What the hell?
steve bannon
Whoa, bro.
I love that.
Incredible.
Hakeem Jeffries quoting the kind of the Tea Party mantra.
When the government fears the people, there you have liberty.
Right on, man, that's not too shabby.
You see what happens when you start redistricting, you start getting down there and making things right.
They start freaking out.
Good news on that.
Mike Davis, first off, on you're in charge of confirmations.
Last night, the energy of Butterworth, I think, even including the inauguration, it was probably the best event I've seen because of the level of people, senior people, but it were people getting confirmed.
Trump's team is coming together.
Mike Lee, Senator Mike Lee, the best constitutionalist, he's on here today and he's saying, look, my plan is 150 guys.
We stick around.
We do it.
And Semaphore has got what Dune wants to do, which is come back in October after they do the budget and have some of these marginal changes that we're going to take two hours away from this.
That's not going to work.
And Mike Lee said, hey, if we were in opposition, clearly you're never going to recess, but we control the House, the Senate, and the executive branch.
It would besmirch President Trump if we didn't actually work it out to go on, to actually go in recess and let these be recess appointments.
And then over the year, he says they would go all the way to 26, to the end of 26.
And in that year or year and a half, you would work on actually taking through the confirmation process.
Your thoughts about this since you kind of ran this thing for us, sir.
mike davis
I would say this.
The Senate needs to end its French work week.
It works two and a half days a week, and then it goes home.
They go into what's called pro forma sessions, and so they never really go into recess.
And so it's hard to do these recess appointments if you don't go into recess.
And then we're coming up on August recess, which is like a high holy month in Washington, D.C. And the problem is, is you have these Senate Democrats who are obstructing everything that President Trump has tried to do.
They're not giving consent to routine things in the Senate.
They're not giving unanimous consent or voice votes, remaining no objection and just letting non-controversial nominees get confirmed.
It used to be that U.S. attorneys would get confirmed by voice votes or unanimous consent.
That has stopped happening.
They're objecting to every one of these.
So I would say this.
You don't need to change these rules.
You just Need to keep the Senate working.
And so you need, in order for Thune to do that, he needs 50 Senate Republicans to agree that they're going to, God forbid, work on a Friday, maybe a Saturday or Sunday, work through August recess, and then the Democrats' obstruction is meaningless.
And so it's amazing how many judges and other nominees you can confirm by merely threatening to make the Senate work past 2 p.m. on Thursday.
So that's what they need to do.
Just make the Senate work, get 50 Senate Republicans to go along with this, and then we'll get these people confirmed.
But the problem is that Senate Republicans want to go home as well.
So Thun can't get them to agree to stay in over the weekend, stay on a Friday, stay in over the weekends, stay in August recess and work.
And so that's where the Article 3 project steps up with the war room posse.
If you go to article3project.org, article number3project.org, and you click on take action, one of the action items is calling both of your home state senators, emailing them, tweeting at them social media, and telling them to work, to stay in session and work and get these nominees confirmed.
That's how you get through this obstruction.
It's the top right one there.
The top right, it says tell the Senate to stay in session and confirm President Trump's nominees.
steve bannon
But they've got their Codells.
They're going to Greece to do, you know, look at naval installations in the Greek islands.
You know the deal.
They're out of here.
What is it?
It's Thune's call.
This is, he's saying they don't trust President Trump.
I understand if we're in opposition to Biden or if the Democrats control the Senate and they're in opposition.
I got it.
You don't go into recess or technical recess.
You stay pro forma.
And the reason is you don't want them to have free reign to do what they want to do on these appointments.
What is the logic?
Since you know, and we've bombarded them and we continue to do it, you know, they're not going to stick around.
It's a high holy month and they're out of here.
What is about Thune just saying, okay, we're going to go into recess and have at it, sir?
mike davis
That's a good question.
I have to go back and remember this.
I think going into recess requires 60 votes in the Senate.
And they don't have 60 votes, obviously.
But, you know, the issue is that just keep these people in session, right?
Until they, it's like they want recess, but they haven't done their homework.
They haven't like they haven't earned recess.
Recess is for kids, right?
These senators need to do their job and then they need to confirm President Trump's nominees.
If they confirm President Trump's nominees, then like good kindergartners, they can go on recess.
steve bannon
Okay, sir, we're going to continue to track this because tomorrow's supposed to be, today was supposed to be, I think tomorrow's going to be the last day.
We still got time to make calls.
Go to Bill Blaster, Article 3.
Let's light people up.
You're having an impact.
I know we're having an impact because we've got great news coming out of Texas that we're going to get Harrison up here as soon as we can.
Mike Davis, last thing, Jeff Clark, the great warrior, he was there last night doing a magnificent job.
But they're still coming.
I tell people, hey, if you think this fight's over, you couldn't be farther from the truth.
If Hakeem Jeff, if we don't get those seats in Texas and in Florida and Hakeem Jefferson's become speaker, impeachment's going to roll, indictments are going to roll.
Look at, they're just trying to destroy Rudy Giuliani and Jeff Clark even as we speak.
What happened to Jeff Clark today?
And when Mike Davis puts out a tweet saying, okay, time to go to war, what do you mean?
mike davis
I said this is BS and I didn't use BS.
I used a more Mike Davis term for it.
And I said, this is time to go to war.
What they're doing to Jeff Clark is un-American.
He was a Justice Department official.
He drafted a legal memorandum, a legal recommendation that he did not even send.
He merely drafted it.
And now the DC bar, a bunch of left-wing radicals on the DC bar, are now disbarring Jeff Clark from the practice of law.
He is a senior official right now in the White House Office of Management and Budget.
It's called the Office of Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.
And it's his job to be the traffic cop for regulations across the government.
It is stunning that the DC bar is continuing to go after Jeff Clark.
And so I know that Pam Bonte and her Justice Department are looking at right now all the steps that they can take to protect and defend Jeff Clark, including filing whatever needs to be filed with the DC bar, maybe reimbursing Jeff Clark for legal fees because they tried to bankrupt him as part of his official duties in the Trump 45 Justice Department.
The Democrats did during four years of lawfare.
We're not, look, this is not the old Republican Party.
This is the Trump Party.
We're not going to leave dead allies on the side of the road like Jeff Clark.
That's not going to happen.
And we're going to exact painful revenge for this.
steve bannon
Why are we not make the people on the DC bar?
Let's tell them right now, we're going to make your lives miserable.
Let's get them disbarred.
Let's get every one of their law firms like they broke the big law firms.
No law firm representing this group that voted should have any government contract, should have any security clearance.
Can we just do that?
Can't we just fight fire or fire?
They're not going to, it's not going to stop until you make it stop.
These people are not reasonable.
They're not rational.
They're not good people.
And for too long, we've treated it like, oh, it's just Republicans and Democrats.
Those days are over.
They took a good man like Jeff Clark and they're trying to destroy him.
Why don't we destroy him back?
I'm down for it.
Why don't we go after them and take their law licenses away?
Why don't we bankrupt them?
Why don't we go to their law firm and say, guess what?
No more contracts, just like they did with Paul Weiss, just like they did with Scadden ARPS.
Why are we not hitting these people with a blowtorch, sir?
mike davis
Sounds like a good idea, Steve.
So duly noted.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll talk after the show.
We'll take off the show.
We'll exchange some notes.
But I don't think you can.
The bar is trying to do the same thing to Rudy at New York and New York City and in D.C. They're trying to destroy these people that stood up for this country and turned out to be right.
That's the thing.
They turned out to be right.
They're honorable men and they're being destroyed by scumbags.
It's time now to stop playing patty Cake with the scumbags.
Mike, where do people go to catch up with your social media, Article 3?
Oh, we got a lot of work.
We're grinding on appointments, confirmations, redistricting, recess, all of it, sir.
mike davis
Yeah, so Jeff Clark is a good friend.
He's a great friend of the Article 3 project, and we have his back.
You can go to article3project.org, article number3project.org.
You can donate there, follow us on social media, take action.
The big action item is tell the Senate to end their French work week and recess is for kids.
steve bannon
Thank you, Mike Davis.
We'll come back to you afterwards.
I think we've got a shot here at the going into recess and actually get some recess appointments.
It's going to have to happen.
Short commercial break, Natalie, Philip Patrick.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Max.
steve bannon
You know, there's 10 big stories we couldn't even get to in the two hours.
And we've got, you know, and we're going to be reporting from Alaska on the Arctic Conference, CLIO's in the islands out in the far Pacific.
We've got AI.
We've got so much we're covering.
And, you know, these questions that President Trump asked at his press avail about genocide, hey, you heard the answer about Kiev about the Russians just unloading on Ukraine last night.
A really amazing answer there.
Of all this is going on, I think, and I'm asking the team to pull out a plate next.
Hakeem Jeffries is based now.
I mean, Hakeem Jeffries actually said when the government fears the people, there you have liberty.
Yo, that's like Waco.
Man, this have we, I think we've messed their heads up so badly they don't know if they're coming or going now.
Hakeem Jeffries down there, you know, he's not, he's down there babbling down in Texas because they're about to get steamrolled.
You heard Harry Enton.
And these are all Hispanic districts that Trump won massively.
So it's just absolutely incredible.
And we're going to have Brian Harrison on here in a minute.
Natalie, so when the stuff starts coming out there, the material starts coming out.
You know, Mike Benz obviously is one of the guys you always look to.
He's putting up tweets that have like five red explanation points.
What's going on?
What have you seen so far?
And what's particularly got your attention on this, ma'am?
natalie winters
Well, I have to say I'm very glad you're back from partying at Butterworth, you and Mike Davis both.
There's a lot of news to get to.
I think what Senator Grossley's putting out is a prime example of that.
Also, to what you guys were talking about last segment about how we can actually go after these people, obviously terrible what they're doing to the one and only Jeff Clark.
I think this is clear evidence that we should be revoking the 501c3 status of the Open Society Foundation, of course, belonging to George Soros.
Why do I say that?
Basically, their executive vice president, here's a name you should get familiar with, Leonard Bernardo.
Keep in mind, this organization has a tax-exempt status.
They say they're not political.
I would argue what we're about to dive into, frankly, isn't just politics.
It's political warfare, if not information warfare, legal warfare, media warfare, psychological warfare.
I think the Chinese Communist Party through warfare's doctrine probably reified to a T. But just to sort of contextualize what we're talking about, the John Durham annex, which is documents basically from over a decade ago, finally being declassified.
They were found in burn bags, I guess, strewn around the FBI, as discovered by Cash Patel.
But if Denver wants to put up on screen, we have sort of the overview of the emails that we can read.
I'll just read a couple sentences and then sort of analyze and help you understand why Mike Benz and the liker are so apoplectic over really what is a bombshell.
I know that word is thrown around a lot, but I think it's quite applicable here.
So this email is July 2016 coming from, like I said, the VP of the Open Society Foundation saying, quote, HRC, in reference to Hillary Rodham Clinton, approved Julia's idea about Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections.
That should distract people from her own missing email, especially if the affair goes to the Olympic level.
The point is making the Russians play a U.S., the Russian play a U.S. domestic issue.
Say something like critical infrastructure is a threat for the election to feel a menace since both POTUS and the VP have acknowledged that fast IC would speed up searching for evidence that is regrettably still unavailable.
Now, basically, every word that I read in that same chain of sentences is more explosive than the next.
But the first line is basically admitting that this was political from the get-go, that this was coming from the Clinton campaign, all of the steel dossier.
But I think what the real buried lead here and why you're seeing Mike Benz and sort of, I think, the war room, really, theory of the case when it comes to Democrat, but more precisely, establishment censorship, crackdown on election infrastructure, is the word critical infrastructure being used here, right?
Setting a pretext, using it as sort of this fake crisis to then justify a very robust expansion, not just of federal government power, but particularly getting the IC involved.
Why do I say that?
If you look at a lot of the lingo, sort of the text, whether it was DHS, it was frankly it was why CISA was created, but a lot of these global censorship operations expanded their purview over that over content being shared and sent on the internet, not because they thought they had jurisdiction over speech, but because they declared misinformation or tweets that the posse was sending out about the 2020 election as critical infrastructure.
And people may recall they actually, I believe it was no conspiracies, no coincidences, but January 6th of 2017, where it was under the Obama administration, where they actually changed elections and classified them as critical infrastructure to sort of lay the groundwork for propping up CISA, which we know really was ground zero for a lot of these censorship activities.
And when you keep reading, talking about how you can really manufacture evidence to support the theory of this case, quote, in absence of direct evidence, CrowdStrike and Threat Connect Will supply the media and GRU will hopefully carry on to give more facts.
I think this really dovetails with the other damning sentence that Mike Benz and all of us have really been, I think, freaking out over, which is the idea of, quote, making the Russian play a U.S. domestic issue.
In other words, trying to get the American people to go crazy and become totally apoplectic over all things, Russia, Russia, Russia.
We're going to get into Leonard's ties to the Ukraine war because I think there's an interesting connection, like there always seems to be with anyone who's somehow involved in democratic politics.
But Leonard, who, like I said, is essentially the number two, number three, he was the acting VP when they appointed a new president over at Open Society.
If Denver wants to put these pictures up on screen, this is someone who was actively posting.
He essentially runs the Russia desk at the Open Society Foundation, but has posted a ton in the 2014 years, 2013 kind of surrounding times about essentially fomenting color revolutions in Ukraine, quote, how democratic transition can unfold in Ukraine, quote, a reformist agenda for Ukraine can be a template for how an effective and democratic transition can unfold.
He has a lot of articles published really honing in on Ukraine, which I think makes his involvement with the Russia hoax all the more, frankly, sinister.
And just the last sort of point to really get to in this email, the quote, quote, Julie says it will be a long-term affair to demonize Putin and Trump.
Now it is good for a post-convention bounce.
Later, the FBI will put more oil into the fire.
Outcome is far from clear as Americans are more keen on their own woes, and Hillary is hardly good looking as far as credibility is concerned.
Anyway, things are ghastly for U.S.-Russian relations.
Look, Steve, I think the top-line assessment of this is that it's case close.
Obviously, this was fake, right?
It's clearly political.
But I think if you really do sort of a linguistic analysis and you look at the code words that they're sort of telegraphing, whether it's making the Russia issue a play or talking about designating things critical infrastructure, you really can sort of, I think, reverse engineer not just what their playbook has been on the Russia stuff, right?
As President Trump alluded to in the Oval Office when he was talking about how they want a special counsel on all of this, because it all runs together.
It's the same people.
It's the same tactics.
It's no coincidence and it's no mistake, right?
That this guy is, you know, number three over at George Soros' foundation.
He's busy, by the way, into the 2020 election.
I was really doing a deep dive into his background, hosting a ton of creepy, weird town halls and webinars with Bill de Blasio's wife, Maya Wiley, make that make sense, accusing President Trump of spreading, quote, you know, lies of disinformation, misinformation.
That's not the correct picture to be putting up on screen.
I digress.
But there's a lot to unpack here.
So that's my top line assessment.
steve bannon
What I find amazing is what you and Benz and people that have been working on for years as this becomes, as it becomes, we see the revelation, so you can actually see the hard print.
Everybody's been pretty close.
I mean, it's not hidden from us of what they tried to do.
Now, this is the supporting document you need in their own words, sent from their own email accounts.
And you understand why they've tried to hide this and why a guy like Grass, who's like a bulldog, has taken three years to do it.
And it's even taken, you know, seven months in the or seven or eight months in the Trump administration.
Do you feel pretty comfortable what we're seeing plays along the lines of the work that yourself and Mike Benz and so many others have been doing in pursuing this?
natalie winters
Well, of course.
I mean, look, I think that this is another incident where you're going to have a bunch of people coming probably, you know, five years from now.
Hopefully, if we can actually get real accountability with criminal charges, the timeline on that will be significantly sped up.
But people saying, oh, you know what?
You guys were right about Joe Biden's mental health.
He always was super crazy.
Maybe, you know, Jake Tapper is going to write a special book on the Russia hoax a year from now.
But what the difference is, right, Steve, about what you have at play here, and I think you really get to the core issues in those two sentences that I really highlighted.
One is the opportunity cost, frankly, from a national security and identifying the real enemy, which isn't always has been the Chinese Communist Party perspective of focusing so much and allocating not just kinetic resources, but just time and think tanks and different sort of DC swampy resources to fighting and fomenting this anti-Russian hatred, not because Russia is so great, but it pulls us away, not just from Indo-Paycom, but from focusing on all things China.
And I think that's probably the largest opportunity cost.
So when the PRC has effectively seized all of our rare earths and they effectively run this country with their unrestricted warfare tactics, I'm so glad that we have a really robust Atlantic Council that can issue all these white papers about how bad Russia is.
That's not really going to matter when you can't publish because China overtakes the Atlantic Council more than they already do.
But I think the other really key point, and I think you see it, like I was saying, it's the pattern recognition on every single issue.
I think the sort of kinetic action of it is this idea of them saying, oh, let's make, you know, this, let's designate mean misinformation or mean speech critical infrastructure.
Let's designate elections critical infrastructure.
That's third world tactics, right?
It's the idea fundamentally that what they have done abroad, whether it's the nation building in the Middle East, fomenting the color revolutions across Eastern Europe, that fundamentally they weren't doing that altruistically.
We know that.
Look at the death counts.
They were doing it to fine-tune and essentially practice for what they wanted to do here.
So much to the point that you got Cheneys involved on both sides of the trade.
Liz Cheney tried to do it with Jan 6, just like her father tried to do with the Iraq war.
So that's the fundamental premise here.
And I think the other big takeaway, too, is that this is the difference of MAGA.
And I would cross-apply it to Epstein and all of whatever scandal it may be.
Old guard Republicans are fine thinking that accountability can be found in releasing documents and putting out tweets and going on Fox.
MAGA loves the rhetoric.
That's great.
But if that rhetoric is not matched with action, then I don't care.
You're just insulting my intelligence.
So I think we have an opportunity on a silver platter to really establish our, shall we say, MAGA bona fides and actually do something.
They put you in jail for a non-crime.
They put thousands of patriots in jail for non-crimes.
We have actual crimes.
If we can't even seal the deal on this, I don't even want to hear the tough talk about the 2020 election.
Let's actually do something.
We got the facts and truth on our side.
We have the declassified information on our side.
I think it's incredibly frustrating that there hasn't been more actual movement and not just happy talk on this.
steve bannon
I agree with you.
I tell people, hey, if you don't stick to landing here and you don't actually see indictments and perp walks and serious indictments for the real crimes here and a serious prosecution team, a strike force made up of, I don't care if it's independent counsel, special counsel, some person from an eastern district or whatever that's assigned full-time.
Judge Janine, you pick them.
But somebody that's damn serious about this and putting together an all-star team because this is everything.
Natalie, what's your social media?
I'm going to come back tomorrow and talk about, you know, besides you, and I've had Pasobic and Benz and Cernovich and a handful of others, there's not a lot of guidance coming out of the White House.
You have President Trump coming up with these true socials, but you don't see an organized, really, you don't see an organized media campaign on this.
You just don't.
And that's got to be, it's got to be something we have to talk about.
We'll do it tomorrow.
Natalie, for now, where do people go for your social media, ma'am?
natalie winters
Natalie G. Winters, until next time, thank you so much for having me.
steve bannon
Fantastic, ma'am.
Thank you so much.
Just made your job harder at the White House, but hey, you're a tough kid.
You'll figure it out.
No, this has got to be you have to have the framing and kind of the narrative drive.
President Trump's going to have some amazing true socials and people putting up great tweets that go through this, but it needs to be organized, as they say, in Taxi Driver.
Philip Patrick, guess what?
Too late, Powell decided it was too early to rate lower rates.
We're going to ask our own Philip Patrick his thoughts next in the war.
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steve bannon
Yeah, I got Philip Patrick and I've got Brian Harrison.
We'll get to both of them.
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President is not in a good frame of mind right now, Philip Patrick, because too late Powell did not lower rates.
We know now, we've done the analytics that the interest rates are at least 100 basis points too high, given every type of analysis of the natural gravity of where interest rates should be.
Your thoughts, sir, do you think this is just spite now?
They're getting ready to go to Jackson Hole.
Do you think it's just because Trump humiliated him at the Federal Reserve?
It's about the bank and the overruns.
You think he's just dug in now, sir?
phillip patrick
That's what it feels like.
It absolutely does.
Think about it from this perspective.
Since the Fed was established, right, their mandate is 2% inflation.
They've averaged 4% inflation since inception, right?
So from that perspective alone, it's time to lower rates.
We're at 2.7% CPI, well below the number.
They've proven by their actions are perfectly acceptable for the last hundred years.
But now President Trump's in office, obviously it's in a problem.
It's an issue.
And they're ignoring the elephant in the room, which is an economy desperately in need of a growth boom and huge refinancing costs on the national debt.
But I think the problem with the Fed is it's bigger than one sort of single rate cut, right?
The question is: have they even been an effective institution since establishment at all?
And the answer is not really, right?
Look at their dual mandates, price stability, which they define as 2% inflation.
Well, as we know, they've averaged double that since inception.
Prior to the establishment of the Fed from 1790 to 1913, inflation averaged one-tenth of that.
So they failed massively at price stability.
Then we've got maximum employment, which is identified strangely as the lowest employment rate that doesn't create inflationary pressures.
But for the Fed, historically, 4% has been the sweet spot.
Since 1948, 5.7% has been the average, over 50% above their goal.
So they're failing at unemployment as well.
What about the big unspoken mandate, moderating business cycles?
Do we still have booms and busts?
The answer is absolutely yes.
And the numbers prove it, right?
Prior to the Fed, we had a recession once every six years on average.
They were sharp, but the recoveries were equally sharp.
Today, in this climate, since the Fed, six-year average as well.
But crashes are now bigger and more dangerous.
Think the Great Depression, stagflationary climate of the 70s, 08.
They all happened under the Fed's watch.
What about GDP?
Economic volatility has increased by 50% since the Fed was founded.
That means bigger booms and bigger busts.
The swings in GDP are wider now than they were before the Fed existed.
So instead of putting business cycles on cruise control, they're stomping on the gas, slamming on the brakes over and over again.
And each time the Fed steps in with rate cuts and money printing, they're creating the next bubble.
That's not moderation.
It's pouring gasoline on the fire.
So by every possible metric, the Fed has completely failed to deliver on its mission.
And the sort of icing on the cake, they are completely unaccountable to Congress or the president, right?
There is no recourse that elected officials can pursue.
Listen, if the army does a bad job, we fire a general, right?
If Secretary Besson started bouncing checks in the Treasury Department, Trump would throw him out on his ear, right?
The Fed, they've overseen 40-year high inflation.
And what can we do?
Absolutely nothing at all.
By every single measure, the Fed have done a terrible job.
Now, are they entirely responsible for the situation we're in today?
Of course not.
But they are co-conspirators without question.
They have spent two decades inflating bubbles, running up debt, hollowing out our industrial base and exporting inflation.
And now rates are finally honest for the first time in what, 25 years, right?
Interest rates are above, and the whole system is cracking under the weight.
Look, The Fed didn't create the disaster alone, but they are absolutely complicit.
Jerome Powell is complicit, right?
I howled when the Fed cut interest rates just before the election.
The situation we are in today is a disaster.
We are forced as Americans to choose between an unimaginable debt burden or calculated dollar devaluation.
You could certainly put Powell on trial for this, but you should also put Yellen, Bernanke, and Greenspan on the stand as well, because they are all equally culpable.
This isn't a Powell problem.
It is so much bigger than that.
It is an institutional problem, and it will not go away on its own without action.
steve bannon
Well, this is what Scott Bess is saying as Secretary of Treasury, but a total rethink.
It'll be interesting.
It happens, see what happens in Jackson Hole.
Where do people go to get your thinking on this, Philip?
I can already tell from the chat, people are very engaged and want to know your thoughts about the direction of this and also your thoughts about gold as a hedge against all of this, sir.
phillip patrick
It's very simple: birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
That'll get them all the information they need on precious metals, how and why in this economy.
And they can get access to end-of-the-dollar empire reports there as well.
And they can reach me directly at Philip Patrick on Geta.
steve bannon
Philip Patrick, thank you so much.
Appreciate you coming on.
Big news coming out of Texas.
Let's go right to Brian Harrison.
Brian, we got a couple minutes.
We want to hold you through the break and take you to the top of the hour.
Just can you give us the top line?
Hakeem Jeffries down there today.
They know they got a problem.
Harry Enton's talking about the polling.
Just blow out numbers supporting Trump on this.
What's the latest?
Are we actually going to get a vote?
Is this thing going to get passed down there, sir?
brian harrison
Well, it needs to get passed.
I mean, quite frankly, my position is it should have been passed already.
And the Democrats, the National Democrats know exactly what's on the line, and that's the future.
And this is not tongue-in-cheek.
It's not hyperbole.
It's the future of the United States of America is on the line.
Texas should be leading.
Quite frankly, we should have done this in a regular session.
We're already almost halfway through the special session.
Hakeem Jeffries flew from Washington, D.C. last night to huddle up with the Democrats in the Texas House last evening to encourage them to do everything they can to thwart President Trump and the Republican agenda down here in the state of Texas.
So as far as I'm concerned, the elected Republican leadership in the state of Texas needs to wake up, realize what time it is in America, and get this map passed and get it passed right now.
And I'm happy to stay through the break and talk through more of that with you.
steve bannon
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steve bannon
Thank you.
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