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July 30, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4668: How Do You Truly Fix Corruption
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amy gleason
06:02
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brian harrison
09:13
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james burnham
08:04
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john forsberg
06:43
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mehmet oz
07:16
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natalie winters
09:00
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donald j trump
01:12
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mike lindell
01:02
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trevor comstock
01:27
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mehmet oz
Lyndon Johnson signed the legislation 60 years ago today, not far from here.
It is not just the ability to bring 60 of the top incumbents and insurgents in health technology, hospital systems, insurance companies, electronic medical record companies, AI companies, the big players, you're all here and we appreciate that very much.
But, Mr. President, use the power to convene.
That's fundamentally what I think the president has been able to offer us.
And Secretary Kennedy offered us as a group some examples, but there are more to come.
And I want to touch on some of these.
But first, I've got to do what doctors often have to do, which is to tell you the truth, even if you don't want to hear it.
So here goes.
These beautiful programs, which are the backbone of the social network, the social support system of this country, the safety net, they're flailing.
They're flailing for a bunch of reasons.
Medicaid is a unique entity.
It has deviated from its original purpose by drift and by design.
The One Big Beautiful Bill, the OB3 law, was elegant for that very reason.
And President, I don't know if you remember this, I can share this, but he called me once and he was upset at me because I was going too strident at something.
And he said, this is about fraud, waste, and abuse.
That's what we're interested in doing.
And that's exactly what the One Big Beautiful Bill accomplished.
And it especially did it to save Medicaid by putting $200 billion more dollars into it and allocating funds very specifically to use to support rural America.
And primarily, some of that money will be used to support digital infrastructure, which is terribly lacking in many parts of the country.
The money that's sent from Washington doesn't get to rural America.
About 7% of Medicaid dollars get to rural hospitals.
We now have an ability to infuse funds through this $50 billion rural health transformation fund into that system.
The gathering today is another example of how we can actually jumpstart that and accelerate it.
The other reality is COVID broke the system.
It didn't for many reasons.
Medicaid expenses went up 50% in five years.
Medicare, the trust fund that we met at actually Treasury with Secretary Besson and Secretary Kennedy as trustees, it goes bankrupt in 2033.
And that is actually a conservative estimate.
It could go bankrupt as early as 2029.
Thankfully, to the economy, that's not going to happen.
But we don't want to have to take that risk.
And there's some fundamental changes we need to make accordingly.
Now, there's one other big reality about making the system more efficient, which is why what everyone here is talking about is so critical.
And let's just pick an average American born in 1964.
That average American born in 64 will retire this year at age 61.
If just that one group of people born in 64 could work three years longer because they're healthy, because they feel like they want to do it, because they feel vital and vigorous and they're flourishing, just that one year working longer is a trillion dollars to the U.S. GDP and it's $300 billion of tax revenue to pay for a lot of the problems that people are concerned about.
So it's not just keeping people out of the hospital, getting them to thrive and flourish that makes what we're doing so critical today.
I think there are a lot of realities to how healthcare has gone.
Unfortunately, this system is frozen, and it has been for many reasons, despite efforts in the first administration.
It's frozen in time, so it cannot address the quality lags that exist.
While Netflix and Airbnb and Uber drivers are racing ahead, making arrangements, identifying the problems that are challenging us in healthcare have become incredibly difficult.
You can't make appointments.
The average Americans are tired.
They're tired of waiting for a doctor's appointment.
They're tired of waiting for the surprise of what your hospital bill is going to offer.
That's being addressed by one of the president's executive orders.
They're tired of waiting for access to their medical records.
You own your medical records.
They're yours.
Why you can't have access to them is a stunning reality in modern day America.
They're also tired of waiting for Washington to take action.
And this president early on emphatically stated that wasn't going to happen anymore.
And today we made that vision into a reality.
And there's a fine line between vision and hallucination.
What you did today was show it's a vision because you share it with us and we're moving ahead on it.
And that's what today's commitments essentially are reflecting.
And they are pledges.
They're not laws.
They're nimble and they're fast and they're quick because the president understands that you, each of you in your own way, understand these needs.
And Secretary Kennedy spoke beautifully about the reality of what happens when you actually have electronic records because what he said is happening in Indonesia, we'll have here.
Within a year on your device, 91% of Medicaid patients have smartphones.
On this device, you'll get insights based on your records if you want.
You don't have to take this, but if you desire, Amy Gleason is one of the smartest people I've ever worked with, has built a mechanism to be able to get you that information in a way with all these partners helping so that you can get nudged to pay attention to what you're eating and avoid processed foods that Secretary Kennedy smartly and wisely highlighted is so dangerous to our well-being.
All this, by the way, is that we'll be at the fingertips.
In addition, advice about which doctor to see, when to go see them, nudges, reminding you why I didn't do certain things.
If you're a doctor like me, it's a very different story.
It's to help you navigate the system better.
It's giving you advice, decision support, which is becoming increasingly important as medicine gets more difficult.
But I'll tell you the best thing of all.
How many of you have been with your doctor, telling them something heartfelt, very emotional, and they're looking to decide typing into their computer, right?
It's common.
Put your hands up.
I just want to see it.
Yeah, most everybody.
And that's unfortunate because the whole sacrament, the whole covenant of being with the doctor is having them look you in the eyes and realize you're there for each other.
That process is going to go away.
We will, within the workflow of doctors, be able, with your help, allow physicians to take care of patients, gather the information while they're doing it, and we'll destroy the upcoding that has hurt Medicare Advantage and other programs in a similar fashion.
The IT infrastructure that's going to change promises to improve a lot of things.
We're going to cut fraud, waste, and abuse.
Mr. President, we announced with the DOJ two weeks ago a $15 billion bust.
$15 billion.
It's a multinational criminal syndicate based primarily, we believe, in the Soviet Union, in Russia.
And what they did was hack using beneficiary numbers into the system.
We'll be able to stop that because of a system that Amy has put together and the wonderful work of Amy Brandt, who has a fraud warroom using this kind of technology because we'll know who you are and who your doctor is.
We can block this.
We're going to have remarkable advances in how consumers can use their own records.
We'll have beneficiaries be able to get Maha advice and prevention tips and even be able to nudge them and reward them perhaps for that.
And all this comes back to one fundamental issue, Mr. President, which is leadership.
I think 60 people, the biggest, the best, the willing, came forward because of your leadership because you weren't going to take no for an answer and they know it.
We are building a robust and safe, I emphasize that safe system.
It's going to protect the data better than we could have imagined.
We're going to be able to accomplish goals that all of us wished from day one that they would be in place.
These pledges are now confirmed.
They're signed in public.
And you have therefore empowered Americans to own their property, which is their medical records.
Let me introduce Amy Gleason.
She is Acting Director of Doge, U.S. Digital Service as well, and was actually the brilliant woman who pulled together the pieces of this puzzle with so many members of the audience.
unidentified
Amy Gleason.
amy gleason
Good afternoon.
First, I would like to thank President Trump for his leadership in this area and Secretary Kennedy and Administrator for driving this work with clarity and urgency.
I would also like to thank my colleagues who have been instrumental to this, and we've worked a lot of late nights and hard times on this, and it would not have been possible without them.
I want to start today with my daughter Morgan, who's here in the audience.
If you'd please stand up.
I am so inspired and energized by your strength every day.
And we also have two other patients here, Randy and Tom, who have been very inspiring.
Thank you for being here today.
You're why this all matters.
Let me start talking about my daughter's history.
So 15 years ago, she was diagnosed with a rare disease.
She was 11 years old, and she started showing mysterious symptoms.
Over the last year and a half after that, she saw the country's best doctors, but she still continued to get worse.
At some point, she couldn't stand up off the floor or walk up the stairs, and we still had no answers.
I carried a binder of paper records to every doctor's appointment so that I could keep them aligned.
And I truly believe that if one of those doctors had been able to see her whole history, they would have diagnosed her faster.
And if we had just had today's AI, then they could have connected the dots that the humans missed.
Today, Morgan takes 21 pills a day, gets two infusions a month, and has over 40 patient portals.
Her disease is very rare, but her experience, it's very common.
And that is what we're here to fix today.
Too many patients are forced to remember all the doctors that they've been to and log into portal after portal, repeating their story at every visit, and they don't have the digital tools to help them stay well.
Meanwhile, every other part of our life is digital.
I can order groceries and have them delivered in minutes.
I get personalized recommendations on my other apps.
But in healthcare, we still see it on paper and manual situations.
But today, thanks to President Trump, we're changing that.
Over 15 years, we've tried to regulate our way to a better outcome.
And we have gotten a path forward, but they have not delivered the modern healthcare experience that Americans expect and deserve.
I'm so proud today that these 60 companies have voluntarily stepped forward to make a pledge to take action and to join us to say, we're ready.
Let's fix this.
We're in.
We're trying something different.
It's not regulation or rulemaking.
This is a voluntary alignment around a shared vision, a commitment to work across boundaries, across competitors, and across silos.
We're bringing together data sharing networks, electronic medical records, doctors, health systems, payers, and app developers.
And we're asking one simple question.
What can we do right now to make this work for patients?
The companies pledging today are agreeing to collaborate, even with their direct competitors, because they know we can't keep kicking the can down the road.
We have to stop talking about data interoperability and make the data flow.
Here's something important.
Not all patients will want these tools.
Some will rely on their caregivers, and others will rely on their doctors, so they don't have to carry it themselves.
But no matter how people engage, we must make sure it works for everyone.
CMS is doing its part.
We're clearing the path for innovation by building the long overdue national provider directory, a kind of digital map for healthcare that connects systems in real time and helps patients get more coordinated care.
We're also modernizing Medicare.gov to feel more seamless and smart like other apps we use.
But the government can't do this and shouldn't do it alone.
These tools we need to make daily decisions must come from the private sector, and that's why this is so important.
So let me tell you what this might look like after our collaborative effort.
So Morgan, in six months from now, might show up to her doctor's appointment.
Instead of filling out a clipboard with her 21 medications, 12 doctors, and her entire medical history, she can just pull out her phone and tap or scan a QR code and seamlessly transfer her digital insurance card, her verified medical record, and a digital summary that could help her provider get up to speed faster.
We call this kill the clipboard, as President Trump said.
After the visit, Morgan opens her AI assistant, a tool that she has authorized to access her records, and asks, what did the doctor say today?
What did these results mean?
What should I watch for now?
And the assistant responds using her actual health history, explains her care plan in plain language, helps her track her symptoms, and even schedules follow-up visits if she needs them.
And lastly, she has a new favorite app that helps her manage her chronic conditions.
Because for years, Morgan has said what other patients say, I only see a doctor a few days a year, but I live with this disease every day.
Today, we're starting with apps that can support patients 24 hours a day from anywhere in the world.
They don't replace doctors, they just fill in the gap between visits so that care is continuous and not episodic.
So what makes this effort different?
Today we have all these apps that want to provide these services, but they can't get the data because it is so hard for patients to access their records.
But today we have 18 network companies who are here pledging to fix the infrastructure that makes this possible.
They're doing this through modern data sharing networks that removes the burden on patients and providers and makes it available in real time using modern identity, just like when you check in at the airport.
These honor patient privacy and transparency, And most importantly, it's a movement to work together to remove the friction that's holding us back.
Because access to information shouldn't be a luxury.
It should be a standard.
So for all the Morgans out there, come join this movement with us at CMS.gov.
Let's kill the clipboard and act as the facts.
Let's help make Help Tech great again.
Or in this case, maybe it's for the first time.
unidentified
Thank you, President Trump.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
That was great.
Hello.
You look very, very healthy to me.
You look really great.
So just I want to thank all of the companies that are here.
These are big names, great, great people.
Now you're doing something that's so important for our country, really for the world.
It's beyond our country, I suspect.
It's really for the world.
So just keep it up.
And you've hit new highs almost virtually every day for the last few months.
And that makes your job probably a little bit easier.
You're under very little stress, but someday you might have a little bit, but you're not going to have much.
I think we're really going to great heights.
But I just want to thank everybody, political people and the teachers and the companies and all of our cabinet.
I even see Newt.
Do I see Newt?
I just see Newt.
Look at him.
He's such a handsome man.
He's a healthy man.
We don't have to do any tests on him.
But good to see you, Newt.
But I just want to thank everybody.
This is a very big undertaking and it's a very serious undertaking.
It's going to make a lot of people lead a much better life.
Thank you all very much for coming.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you, Newt.
mehmet oz
Can I call you by MFN?
unidentified
Yeah.
can we start You are in the war room.
natalie winters
It's Wednesday, July 30th in the year of our Lord 2025.
That's President Donald J. Trump alongside David Sachs and Dr. Mehmet Oz talking about all the advancements they're going to be doing when it comes to healthcare technology.
And of course, Doge Administrator Amy Gleason.
We were going to have Steve join us, but he is busy.
He's out on assignments.
Natalie Winter's hosting today.
We've got a pack show.
We're going to go through everything involving the Texas redistricting, the latest with the AI push, and some other stuff.
I think we've got Representative Brian Harrison joining us down the line, who I think you're fresh off, what was it, about a seven-minute session where all you guys did was vote to adjourn until Monday.
Obviously, the Texas redistricting map is five netted seats for Republicans.
Democrats are doing everything they can to sabotage that.
Let's start from square one.
If you can sort of walk us through this map, what it means, and what Democrats and establishment Republicans are doing to really make sure that these victories don't actually materialize.
brian harrison
Yeah, well, I'll go all the way back to the beginning.
First of all, Natalie Toe, it's great to be with you.
Yeah, this is the type of thing we should have done, quite frankly, during the regular session.
President Trump has asked the state of Texas to redistrict so that we can, and I agree with him, I agree with the president strongly, the elected Republicans in the great state of Texas for crying out loud.
Of course, we should be doing everything we can to make sure that the United States Congress does not fall into the hands of the radical, extremist, Marxist, leftist Democrats.
So it's a shame that it's taken us this long.
We're over half, you know, we gaveled in for a regular session in January.
We did nothing on redistricting for the regular session.
Governor Abbott did put it on the agenda for this special session, but we are now at the point where we're like 30% of the way through.
But after we were, as you mentioned, we were on the Texas House floor.
Our floor session today lasted seven minutes.
And the only thing we did was vote for another five-day weekend.
So we will not be back on the floor until Monday when the special session is over 50% over without the bill being on the floor of the Texas House.
And unfortunately, the Texas House, the leadership, the corrupt rhinos that control the Texas House, they have basically done everything they can to make it look like they're happy to support the Democrats' efforts to thwart the president's agenda.
They stacked the redistricting committee itself with the most radical left-wing Democrats the Texas House has, including the chairman of the House Democrat caucus, who has already pledged to do everything he can, including break quorum, if that's what it takes to thwart the president's agenda and stop us from redistricting down here in Texas.
So here's the, I'll just say the most simple facts for your audience to understand.
The Rhinos, the liberal unit party that controls the Austin swamp, their favorite thing to do is to blame the Democrats.
And the Democrats are threatening to break quorum, and that's going to be how maybe this is defeated.
Let me be really simple.
If the elected Republican leadership in the state of Texas wants to redistrict and deliver for not just President Trump, but for Republicans all across this country, we will succeed if the governor, lieutenant governor, and speaker want them to.
We have all the tools available to force the Democrats to stay.
For example, why did he adjourn today just to let the Democrats go?
Oh, your audience is going to love this.
Why did we adjourn today?
Where are the Democrats, the House Democrats going as we speak?
To meet with Hakeem Jeffries, who flew down here from Washington, D.C. to huddle up with the Texas House Democrats because Hakeem Jeffries, Democrats all over the country, they know that the future of America is quite literally on the line.
And I think it's past time that elected Republicans in Texas get with the program and start acting like it.
natalie winters
Look, we're always down to make people famous in the war room.
If you want to mention any of these people by name, I'm sure Fossi would love to pile in and make some very respectful and well-argued, well-reasoned phone calls.
But can you just sort of walk us through?
I'm even curious behind closed doors, the sort of winding pitch that you must hear from your Rhino colleagues as to how they could even justify, again, something that's not controversial.
It's a redistricting map.
That's not automatically granting or saying that these districts are going to flip MAGA, just that they're going to flip red.
What is their case?
brian harrison
Yeah, we certainly have a point.
Just because there's an elected Republican gets elected, that certainly doesn't mean they're any kind of a bold, pro-liberty, conservative, or support the president.
That's certainly true.
But no, the case is the same thing they always say: you know, oh, guys, you got to be quiet.
You know, let's not be assertive here.
Let's not be bold.
Let's not be loud about this.
Meanwhile, the Democrats are literally holding rallies all across the state of Texas with 5,000 people plus at these rallies.
And the Texas House and the Texas Senate held hearings, I think six total hearings on redistricting, where almost 100% of the priority witnesses were Democrats opposed to the Republican agenda, opposed to the president's agenda.
I mean, it's beyond the pale outrageous.
And I mean, I'm happy to be with you.
I'm very grateful for Steve and you and the posse and everybody else who's sounding the alarm, not just in Texas, but coast to coast.
But I mean, the sad reality is I'm one of the very few elected Republicans in the Texas government that has been boldly calling for this.
I mean, the silence from most elected Republicans here in the Texas House has been staggering.
I don't understand it.
We need to understand.
It's about time that Republicans fight as hard for the future of our state and our country as the radical Democrats do.
And that's what I'm trying to do down here by sounding the alarm that we've got some trouble in paradise.
natalie winters
And just walk us through a little bit more the sort of one-two punch that you think they could deliver to actually, I guess, maybe block this redistricting, particularly on the Democrat side.
You're saying, I believe what was it in 2021, the last time that they left the state to deny quorum.
Like you said, the session is basically halfway over.
But what would Democrats need to do in order to give your rhino counterparts the political cover to say, oh, well, we just want to play nice?
brian harrison
Right.
It's the oldest trick in the book.
The rhinos act like, oh, guys, we tried as hard as we could, but you know what?
Those pesky Democrats, they thwarted our, you know, our pro-Trump, pro-Republican agenda.
And let me explain really what's going on here and the tools that they have.
So under the Texas Constitution, we have a quorum requirement in the Texas House.
We have 150 total members in the House of Representatives.
100 people have to be here to constitute a quorum.
We have 88 Republicans.
So we need to have a handful of the Democrats to show up.
And unfortunately, there is a track record.
There's precedence for this.
You mentioned it in 2021, when we were simply trying to pass an election integrity bill, quite frankly, one that wasn't even that strong.
The Democrats fled to Washington, D.C. and camped out with Nancy Pelosi to try and keep us from passing a simple election integrity measure that the people of Texas overwhelmingly supported.
So there's precedent for this.
And unfortunately, the precedent involves the fact that Democrats are never punished when they break quorum.
And so that's why I want to get like the big, the big truth, the big, you know, sort of most important thing that I want to drive home is that one of the Rhino's favorite tactics is to blame the Democrats for doing what they really want to do, but they don't want to be blamed for it.
So I just want to say this as many times as I can.
The Republicans in the Texas House, from the governor on down, Lieutenant Governor and Speaker, we have all the tools available to us to force the Democrats to stay.
If they flee the state of Texas, for example, the governor can declare their seat vacant and call for a special election.
The Speaker can guarantee their bills never moved.
They can be stripped of committee assignments.
They can have their budget cuts.
They can have their staff cuts.
Their chairmanships.
Yes, Democrats have chairmanships in the Texas House, as shocking as that is.
Their chairmanships can be revoked.
And quite frankly, we had a quorum, as you mentioned, just 30 minutes ago.
There was no reason for the speaker to even have to let them leave.
He could say, you know what, you're here.
We've got quorum.
We're closing the doors.
We're going to take up this redistricting matter.
And we are not going to let you leave until we deliver for the conservative voters of the state of Texas who fully support this.
So there are lots of tools available to make sure that the Democrats are not able to pull their usual stunt of breaking quorum.
And it's as simple as this.
If the governor, lieutenant governor, and speaker want redistricting to happen, it will happen.
If they do not want it to happen, then it will not happen.
And they will probably try to blame the Democrats.
But I want to take that card away from the liberal Uniparty Rhino establishment here in the city of Austin.
natalie winters
And I'd argue one of the most effective and probably feared tools you have at your disposal is, of course, the Intrepid War Room Posse.
Give us a few minutes on your own.
brian harrison
And they're not fans of y'all.
They don't know how to break this to you.
The Uniparty doesn't like you.
natalie winters
And that's a badge of honor.
We'll take that proudly.
But who should they be calling?
What's the number?
Are their names?
Give us a little script of people, you know, in-state, out of state.
Let us know how we can help.
brian harrison
Well, it's real simple.
So the Speaker of the Texas House is a rhino named Dustin Burroughs.
He's nominally a Republican, but he was literally elected by the Democrat caucus in the Texas House.
So if Democrats, you know, fly the coop here, it is on him for allowing them to do it.
And the posse should basically let everybody know, the governor, you know, Governor Abbott, Lieutenant Governor Patrick, Speaker Dustin Burroughs, the President, the United States of America, and the overwhelming majority of the voters in the great state of Texas are looking to you.
Now is the time for bold conservative leadership and to let them know that we're on to you.
We're on to the usual games and let them know that the voters of Texas know, that the posse knows they have the power to get redistricting done.
We know they've already made the decision to completely burn the first half of the special session.
We know they've given Democrats all of the airtime.
They basically turned the Texas Capitol into DNC television for the last week or so with all these completely ridiculous, you know, Democrat scripted hearings.
But let them know we're looking to you and failure is not an option.
The future of the Republic is on the line.
We need to get this redistricting done.
We need to get it done now and you've got the power to deliver.
natalie winters
Indeed, Representative Harrison, if people want to follow you, keep up to date with everything you've got going on.
You're one of the few good ones, which is mind-boggling that I can say that and have it apply to the wonderful state of Texas.
It makes no sense, right?
unidentified
I'm from California, so I particularly envy you being able to see the state of the world.
No, nothing in the world could have.
brian harrison
I served as a senior member of President Trump's first administration, and nothing in the world could have prepared me for the shock of learning how completely liberal the all supposedly Republican government of the great state of my beloved state of Texas is.
But yeah, no, people should, if they want to go and follow me on social media, on X, at Brian E. Harrison, please go follow, like, share at Brian E. Harrison on X. Brian E. Harrison, because the liberal media in Austin doesn't tell you the truth.
The liberal media in the state of Texas doesn't tell you the truth.
And the national media certainly is not telling you the truth.
So I post videos, updates, vote sheets from the floor almost every single day, usually many times a day.
So if anybody is wanting the truth, not the Democrats' mouthpiece in the media, but if they want the truth about what's going on down here in the great state of Texas, please follow me on X at BrianE.
Harrison.
And I just want to say how grateful I am to the posse.
We've been able to deliver a few victories over the past few months because of the posse phoning in, blowing up the phone lines and the social media of the rhinos down here in Austin.
So you guys are just an incredible asset to the fight to preserve liberty in Texas and America.
natalie winters
The posse is the best, and so are you, sir.
Thank you so much for joining us.
We'll have you back on soon.
brian harrison
Great to be with you, Natalie.
God bless.
natalie winters
There's always something kind of sick, I think, about Democrats salivating and relishing over the idea of them turning Texas blue.
They like to say it's because of their wonderful policies and the vision that they put forth.
But in reality, we know it's just about immigration and demography, and that's why they want to keep the border so open and porous down there so they can import their new wave-in-generation of voters.
And I guess the establishment Republicans will probably be the ones helping to weld those floodgates open.
I believe that literally happened under President, I guess President Ottopen, but President Biden.
We've got a few minutes.
We're going to be joined by Douglas Mackey's lawyer.
I'm sure you guys are familiar with that case and former Doge lawyer James Burnham after the break.
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trevor comstock
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natalie winters
Thank you, sir, for joining us.
We'll have you back on soon.
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natalie winters
You're back in the war room.
We are joined now by James Burnham.
You've worn a lot of hats.
You were in Trump's first term over at the DOJ.
You were the Doge super lawyer.
You've got a new kind of AI policy council aimed at combating the Chinese Communist Party, which we're going to get into.
But you're also involved with a case that our audience, I think, has been following for a very long time.
Obviously, very good news on that front with regard to wonderful meme poster Doug Mackey.
And I would think that Doug would want absolutely nothing to do with the United States court system after what happened to him.
But it seems like you are intervening or helping him on his behalf to get some, shall we say, retribution.
We like to use the term justice or accountability here in the war room because they're the ones that committed the crimes.
But on his behalf, you guys are trying to, I guess maybe in illegal terms, seek damages or something in that capacity against the Biden regime, the DOJ particularly, for what they did to him.
I know our audience is really passionate about this.
Can you sort of bring us up to speed on what you're doing with Doug?
james burnham
Yeah, absolutely.
And thanks, Natalie, for having me on War Room.
It's really great to be here.
So just to catch everyone back up on what happened to Doug.
So Doug was just a regular person who thought Hillary Clinton would not make a very good president, like it turns out most people in the country thought.
And one of the ways he sort of expressed that is he liked posting memes.
So in the run-up to the 2016 election, he posted a joke meme that said, if you want to vote for Hillary, text your vote to this number.
Like obviously a joke.
Everyone knows you don't vote by texting.
He's just a self-described Twitter troll.
So he puts the meme up, whatever, goes to bed, thinks that's the end of it.
President Trump wins the election.
That's the end of that.
Well, it turns out that when he put up the meme, the Hillary Clinton campaign went crazy and started sending this to all kinds of people.
And some people at the Justice Department in the U.S. Attorney's Office in Brooklyn, which is where her campaign was headquartered, not the U.S. Attorney's Office where Doug lived, the one where the campaign was headquartered, started investigating Doug for what's called a conspiracy to violate civil rights.
I kid you not.
The conspiracy to violate civil rights statute, just to give you a sense, is the post-Civil War statute that was passed for like the Ku Klux Klan showing up and barricading voting sites, intimidating voters, violent obstruction, you know, crazy things, not putting memes on X. So he puts up the meme.
They do the investigation.
Two days into the Biden administration, two days, they waited out the entirety of the Trump administration.
Doug was arrested in New York by armed agents.
He has something like 10 FBI agents, by the way, totally unusual.
In a nonviolent case, even a real nonviolent case, this, of course, is a fake case.
They don't do arrests.
They let you come in and self-report.
So this is already law enforcement theater to try to intimidate Doug and to send a message.
They arrested him two days into Biden for the memes he put up about Hillary Clinton.
Doug had to go to trial.
They dragged him to a trial in Brooklyn.
He was convicted, of course, because it's a jury, a Brooklyn jury.
You know, what would you expect?
It's a lot like what happens in D.C. with a lot of cases I'm sure the war room posse is familiar with here in Washington.
He gets convicted and then he has to appeal.
And thank God, the Second Circuit Court of Appeals saw the light and they threw out the conviction about two weeks ago.
Interesting side note, Doug was represented in his appeal by a lawyer named Yakov Roth, who actually works for the president now in the Justice Department.
So A.G. Bondi and the president have clearly brought the right people in because they have the guy who defended Doug now here at the Justice Department, defending the president, trying to clean the place up.
So that's where we are.
So Doug has now been acquitted by the court.
The case is over on the criminal side, or it will be in about a week.
And the question now, of course, is what's next?
And I agree with you, Natalie.
The most important thing is justice and accountability.
So justice for Doug has two pieces.
The first piece is going to be trying to make things right for Doug.
I mean, the government, his own government, it's crazy to think this could happen in the United States, ruined his life for years because he tweeted a meme, which is crazy.
And so, you know, money and things like that can never really make it right.
They can never replace the weddings that he missed.
He had to be sentenced around the time of the birth of his child.
So he had to sit in court instead of playing with his baby.
I mean, horrible things that nothing could ever make right.
But we're going to make it as right as we possibly can.
And the way that works is we file a claim with the Justice Department itself.
Fortunately, it's the Trump Justice Department, not the Biden Justice Department.
And so we're optimistic that they're going to agree with us that this was a horrible violation of Doug's civil rights.
And we'll be able to sort of make that work for Doug relatively quickly.
The second part of justice for Doug is holding accountable the people that did this to him.
And that's something we're still trying to be creative and think through how to do it.
I mean, there's a lot of potential options.
There's misconduct complaints.
There's things that the Justice Department now can do.
You know, one of the things we don't know is exactly how this all happened.
And we obviously have our theories and the timeline that I described, it's not hard to see what probably happened here.
But this is the kind of thing that needs to really be investigated, kind of like the Russia, Russia, Russia thing that has been investigated and still being investigated.
We need to figure out what exactly happened to Doug here and then hold the people that did this to him accountable.
And that's something that I and Doug plan to commit significant time to, because the most important thing, Natalie, I think, and for everybody that's watching right now, this can never happen again in the United States.
You have a First Amendment right to post memes.
You have a First Amendment right to make fun of politicians.
The country was founded on making fun of politicians, and we need to make sure that this never happens to anybody else again so that what happened to Doug, so that Doug's sacrifice is not totally, totally wasted.
natalie winters
Well, and it's certainly a unique way, if not, I think, kind of setting a precedent for these rogue actors within the DOJ.
For all we know, they could have been their careers, they're probably more likely the politicals, though it's harder to differentiate between the two probably under Joe Biden, but that they can't get away.
And like you said, they can't do this again to any American for something as simple as posting me.
So before we pivot to the other topic I want to discuss with you, I'm just curious, from start to finish of Doug's whole saga, was there ever any Democrat, probably a middle-of-the-road one, who reached out to him or who's working with you guys now, has extended apologies or an interest for all the talk that we hear about criminal justice reform coming from that side?
Has there been any olive branches extended to him from the Democratic side of the party?
james burnham
So I would need to ask Doug to do a comprehensive accounting, but I know that Senator Klobuchar was talking about his case when it was brought and calling Doug Russian disinformation, master disinformation, very negative, nasty comments.
Hillary Clinton, of course, made the ridiculous claim on television that Doug was responsible for thousands of people not being able to vote.
That is totally made up.
There is no evidence of that.
Obviously, it's not true because Doug, I mean, the Twitter avatar, as I recall, had a MAGA hat.
So I don't think a lot of Hillary Clinton voters were looking to the Ricky Bond Twitter handle for advice on how to vote.
natalie winters
It was a very authoritative picture.
I'll give him that.
james burnham
It's a great picture.
Probably not for the audience, the Hillary Clinton audience.
And so, so, no, but there is one thing, you know, one thing, one person I do want to give some credit to.
On the three-judge panel in the Second Circuit, there were two Bush appointees and one Biden appointee.
And I don't have the names at my fingertips, but that appointee from President Biden deserves credit, I think, for having the wisdom and the fortitude to say, you know, this is not the law in this country, and this is not a proper conviction, and this has to be thrown out.
They won the case 3-0, no dissent.
And so I am grateful that at least the court system was able to right this injustice, at least that much for Doug.
natalie winters
And James, pivoting to you're a very busy guy, the other thing you got going on, you just launched a new kind of AI policy council.
I think I had mentioned that you worked in President Trump's first term over at the DOJ.
Obviously, the AI, you know, kind of sweeping policy orders, the EOs, they got coming out on that front.
The Warburg posse, I'm sure you know, Bannon is a little more skeptical on maybe AI skeptic, AI curious at best, AI skeptic at worst.
That's probably not the worst.
But you have sort of a niche angle, particularly using AI To combat or at least try to maintain dominance over the Chinese Communist Party in that obviously very important sphere.
I just wanted to bring you on for a few minutes to sort of maybe make your pitch to our audience about why you think what you're doing over there is so important from kind of a national security perspective pertaining to China.
james burnham
Yeah, so we launched last week, it's called the AI Innovation Council.
And my goal is to sort of promote what I think is really the president's vision of an America-first AI policy.
So AI policies that encourage, look, whether AI should exist or not, the Chinese are going to build the best, most lethal, most killer AI possible.
And I'm with the president in thinking that we need to build the best AI in the world here in the United States.
We need to use American workers.
We need to have American investment.
We need to have American engineers doing this kind of work.
The president gave a great speech last week at the AI summit that the White House organized with David Sachs and the all-in folks, where he basically laid out a vision of American dominance in the space on one condition.
And I think this is very important.
He said, look, guys, I'm going to promote investment.
I'm going to promote technological advances.
I want America to always be the dominant country in the world.
But guys, you're building it here.
Okay, so we're not going to have you building all these things in China.
We're not going to have you importing a bunch of people from other countries to do all of the work.
This is an American industry.
And just like we won World War II by putting Americans to work building ships and guns and airplanes, we're going to put Americans to work on this important thing too, and building this technology.
And so look, we're just here to support the president.
And I just thought it was important that some people who'd worked for him and who believe in his vision for the country in this sort of golden age get on the field and try to make the case and engage in the debate in a way that is totally aligned with, you know, I know Steve a bit from the first Trump administration in a way that I think is aligned with his vision, which is a dominant, great American country where great companies are staffed by and run by Americans.
natalie winters
It's the new arms race.
We'll have to have you back on because I want to get into the NVIDIA chip, the whole export control situation there, because I don't know how you quite square, what is it, sending over the H-20 or whatever chips to China.
But like I said, we'll have you back on to get into that.
I know it's a very hot button topic that the Warren Policy is very animated about.
In the meantime, if the audience has questions to get involved on either the Doug side of things or the AI side of things, where can they go to either follow you or reach out and stay up to date with everything you're working on?
james burnham
For Doug, you can follow him on X at Doug Mackey Case.
That's his handle.
There's a link in there to donate to support him and to support his family, which I strongly encourage everyone to do.
For the AI Policy Council, we're on the internet, AI Policy Council.
You can also follow me on X at burnhamdc.com, B-U-R-N-H-A-M-D-C.
The links are there too.
And I'd love to hear from everybody.
The DMs are open, as they say.
natalie winters
Indeed, they are.
Thank you so much for joining us.
We'll have you back on soon.
james burnham
Appreciate it.
Take care.
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Give Natalie Dominguez and the team a call to keep your home safe.
And speaking of safety, keeping the country safe, this is a wonderful video.
I showed it to Steve.
He loved it.
We thought it was important enough to air it for you guys in full.
Seriously, don't go anywhere.
About what's sort of a preemptive attack coming from the Chinese Communist Party, particularly on critical infrastructure, technology, electricity, all that stuff that you hear so much about.
It's a wonderful video.
We're going to play it in full.
It runs seven minutes, but I promise you it's worth watching so you can be informed.
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john forsberg
The global-scale attack on America began on the strategic island of Guam, as a wave of submarine-launched heavy-lift drones skimmed low over the water, then darted skyward as they reached their targets.
Over microwave relay and undersea cable landing stations, power distribution and backup facilities, as well as the Guam Combined Operations Center, the drones detonated their payloads.
For those who Witnessed it, the moment appeared almost benign, with one Air Force officer describing how the drone hovered for an instant, then simply tumbled to the ground.
Invisible to the human eye, each detonation sent a massive electromagnetic pulse over its target.
Though designed and built to be protected from just such an EMP attack, many of the military-grade electronic systems failed against the assault as their circuits overloaded or melted.
In an instant, electrical power, water, network, and communications systems ceased to operate across the island.
Meanwhile, the island of Hawaii was under a similar and simultaneous attack, with coordinated drone-delivered tactical EMP attacks on the Indopaycom headquarters complex, Pacific Missile Range Facility, the Wahiawa Communications Station, Kunia Regional SIGINT Operations Center, and the Mauna Kea Satellite Tracking Station, among other targets both military and civilian.
As U.S. naval and air force units scrambled to defend against the surprise attack, Chinese maritime militia ships and autonomous underwater vehicles hundreds of miles away began to systematically sever critical undersea fiber optic cables, first to those serving U.S. and Allied installations in the Indo-Pacific region, but soon spreading across both the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, damage that would take months, if not years, to repair.
While overhead in low Earth orbit, US and Allied satellites came under a sudden and withering attack as Chinese ground and space-based platforms launched kinetic, direct energy, jamming and blinding attacks, rendering hundreds of satellites either unusable, uncontrollable or worse, fragmenting them into a growing cloud of destructive debris that would unleash the much-feared Kessler Cascade over the days ahead, rendering low Earth orbit uninhabitable by satellites.
At the National Military Command Center inside the Pentagon, Deputy Director for Operations, U.S. Army Brigadier General J.D. Swift, was in full-on crisis mode.
In less than 30 minutes, Swift watched as Guam, an island fortress and centerpiece of America's defense of the Pacific, and then Hawaii, home to the U.S. Pacific Fleet, both virtually vanished from the digital landscape.
The U.S. military's ability to coordinate oversea operations had just collapsed.
And the news was about to get exponentially worse.
In Westbury, New York, inside the FAA's New York Tracon facility, radar and approach controllers spotted what appeared to be numerous, unidentified aerial targets, likely drones, in their airspace just south of Long Island.
As they frantically worked to divert traffic, the drones, launched from nearby cargo container ships, raced toward their targets.
Along both U.S. coasts and in dozens of cities deep in the heartland, the same template for attack was carried out, with EMP drone attacks on key communications, power, transportation, and network data centers.
Working in concert, scores of small, commercially available drones also rose into the skies above American cities, their transmitters broadcasting digital orders to kill switches, covertly embedded and listening in electronic systems compromised by China months or years before.
Within moments, hundreds of millions of citizens across the country found themselves suddenly without access to power, internet, cell phones, fuel, ATMs, police, fire, or emergency services.
In the days ahead, with the crippling of the nation's food and supply chain management systems, basic transportation and healthcare services, and with little information and rumors running rampant, public annoyance quickly turned to anger, anger to fear, and fear to panic.
Made worse, the selective attacks strategically separated the haves from the have-nots, leaving cities such as Dallas, Texas untouched, while plunging neighboring Fort Worth into darkness and hunger.
Soon, rioting and looting took root and spread, virus-like, nationwide.
Back at the command center, with Swift's staff overwhelmed and information fractured and conflicted, the situation was spiraling from the nightmarish to the existential, as Space Command in Colorado reported that the orbital SIBBA's early missile warning system had just gone offline, and with it, the ability to detect the launch of enemy intercontinental ballistic missiles.
Moments later, America's continuity of operations plan was initiated, sending civilian and military leadership to hardened facilities across the country, ensuring that the government remained functional in the event of a national emergency, including nuclear war.
Meanwhile, 300 miles east of the Luzon Strait aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, Admiral Justice Folger, commander of U.S. Navy Carrier Strike Group 5, found himself a commander without clear direction, armed with a strike group that was now slowed, degraded, and at extreme risk, without real-time battle space intelligence to know where the enemy was, where it was headed, in what strength or the means to coordinate a joint attack.
The most potent and technically advanced fighting force on the planet had just been knocked back a half a century.
While 400 miles to his west aboard the flagship of his surface action group, PLA and Rear Admiral Wu Wei received welcomed news.
The off-switch to America, the dismantling of their global digital infrastructure, was complete.
The strategy known as the Assassin's Maces had been decades in the making.
A doctrine of unrestricted warfare where the battlefield was everywhere, aiming to cripple a superior enemy's capabilities long before open conflict erupted.
Now the moment of she, the optimal strategic timing for the attack, had come.
The Admiral read an encrypted message received from Eastern Theatre Command.
The order given, which would soon go out to millions of PLA warfighters around the globe, read simply, commence operations.
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