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July 28, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 816: Chaos At Jazz Fest; Mythology, Ideology, And Real
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eric prince
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john leake
16:32
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steve bannon
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lindsey graham
02:02
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teresa a theetge
04:21
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jake tapper
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kristen welker
00:38
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steve bannon
This is the timing screen of the dying enemy.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like games.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
Mega media.
I wish in my soul I'd...
I wish.
steve bannon
Ask yourself.
What is my plan?
What is my purpose?
If that answers is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Here's your hope.
Monday, 28th, July, Year of Earl, 2025.
Welcome back for the 6 o'clock hour.
Eric Prince stays with us.
John Leake is going to be here on this new kind of blockbuster book he's got about vaccines, he and Dr. McCullough, because the vaccine situation is, as you know, we're pushing that with Make America Healthy Again and Bobby Kennedy.
A lot going on.
That's what he thought.
Leak would be a great guest to get you guys up to speed today.
Eric Prince, the kinetic part of the Third World War started.
There have been 2 million casualties, both a million Russians and a million Ukrainians, although Ukrainians got a lot of civilians in there in the Ukraine.
I hear there's 300,000 casualties.
What I mean by that is wounded and dead in Gaza, and I don't know, 50,000 to 75,000 in Yemen.
So this is much bloodier than the first couple of years of World War II after the invasion of Poland.
The president of the day called an audible.
He went from a 50-day that started, I guess, about 10 days ago, to 10 days, 12 days with Putin.
And he also, I mean, on Netanyahu, he basically said, hey, you got to stop the starvation.
And that has already caused a bunch of ripples in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
What are your thoughts, sir, about the Putin part first?
I mean, is this, do you believe President Trump may be getting too far into this?
Because it doesn't look like Putin's going to back off, sir.
eric prince
It's summer.
It's the time for offensives.
They are slowly gaining a few yards here and a few yards there.
I think they're trying to grind up on the battlefield what they can't seem to get negotiating.
But I still think, I think there's a deal to be done.
I think the Russians want to be done with this as well.
I think they want the four districts, the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, I think, and Zaporozhye, and obviously Crimea.
I think they'd take it at what those boundaries are now or where the front lines are, just straighten the lines and be done.
I think the Russians demand a little respect.
We've allowed the yapping small European countries that have no militaries and really no skin in the game and have not been spending anything like 2% on defense to make lots of grand claims.
And they're kind of writing checks that their bodies can't cash or that their muscle can't back up.
So I don't know why Trump is pulling that forward.
What's he going to do?
He's going to throw more sanctions on them because whatever Biden did with sanctions, the Russian economy is doing okay.
They can still sell gas and oil.
The Chinese and the Indians will continue to buy Russian gas and oil.
It's going to continue to push in the market.
So I'm not sure what net effect those additional sanctions will do.
steve bannon
Even they've talked about secondary sanctions.
That means the CCP would come, and I think he said 100%.
I mean, to me, India and CCP, he's very cautious in one level, but if it's secondary sanctions, and we now know they've stopped buying, that the CCP has stopped buying from the U.S. energy, they're buying from, I mean, coal, natural gas, oil, they're buying it all from, looks like Russia and Persia.
Secondary sanctions would be crippling to the Chinese economy.
And President Trump has said this is his leverage he's going to use.
eric prince
I don't know that he has that much leverage against the Chinese economy.
So maybe it's a bluster.
I don't know.
But I still think the Russians are willing to negotiate.
I don't know what the impasse is.
I truly don't understand at this point.
steve bannon
Ann Applebaum, who's no friend of the war room, certainly no friend of Eric Prince, the President of the United States, or Steve Bannon, she had a piece in the Atlantic about a week or so ago that said even as many hits as Putin has, he's got an army he's put together for the summer offensive of 675,000 troops.
Why would he negotiate with President Trump when isn't Odessa their target?
Isn't that the last big thing that they want before they call it a day, sir?
eric prince
If they can take Odessa and that port, they've effectively really neutered the viability of Ukraine as a country because that is the port through which all of Ukrainian grain and mineral exports has to flow.
It's going to be a while until they get there.
I think they can, I mean, that's still a ways off militarily.
That's probably another season or two.
But Ukraine does have a manpower problem.
And right now, really, both sides are just stuck in a war of massive attrition.
The millions and millions of landmines that have been sown make it very hard for any kind of breakthrough.
And when you add to that, very smart FPV drones, drones that can adjust your artillery fire to be very accurate, and including unmanned systems that can even sow more landfields or more minefields in front of any breakthrough, makes any kind of fast maneuver warfare that would lead to a decisive end exceedingly Difficult.
So this is, when you look at the battlefields today, it looks like the battlefield, it's like the Somme, you know, the horrifically costly, pointless battle during World War I, which cost 60,000 British in a long weekend.
So it is a really pointless war, and I really hope President Trump's leadership can bring this thing to an end.
But I think the Russians are willing to make a deal.
steve bannon
Do we have the clip ready?
I want to play another clip from Lindsey Graham about the war in Gaza and get your response, Eric.
kristen welker
Let's talk about Gaza, Senator, because this is so important.
As I just talked about with the House, Speaker, the world is just watching this humanitarian crisis unfold.
President Trump said he told Prime Minister Netanyahu to, quote, finish the job this week.
I know that you are in touch with President Trump.
You're in touch with Israeli officials.
What are you anticipating is going to happen next?
What does finish the job mean, Senator?
lindsey graham
Well, I talked to Cindy McCain last night.
Here's some good news for the people in Gaza.
Humanitarian quarters are now going to be open.
Israel is going to work with the UN, the World Food Program, to get some food into these people who need it.
But I think what the topic we're talking about today is a change in strategy.
I think President Trump has come to believe, and I certainly have come to believe, there's no way you're going to negotiate an end of this war with Hamas.
Hamas is a terrorist organization who is chartered to destroy the state of Israel.
They're religious Nazis.
They hold Israeli hostages.
I think Israel's come to conclude that they can't achieve a goal of ending the war with Hamas that would be satisfactory to the safety of Israel.
And if they're going to do in Gaza what we did in Tokyo and Berlin, take the place by force, then start over again, presenting a better future for the Palestinians, hopefully having the Arabs take over the West Bank in Gaza.
But I think going forward, Christian, you're going to see a change in tactics, a full military effort by Israel to take Gaza down like we did in Tokyo and Berlin.
kristen welker
Senator, bottom line, does that mean the hostages are not going to be coming back alive if Israel were to move forward with what you're effectively saying?
lindsey graham
I hope not.
I think there are people maybe in the Hamas organization that would accept safe passage if they release the hostages.
If I were Israel, I'd make that offer to Hamas fighters.
You can leave safely.
We want our hostages back.
But here's the problem Israel has.
They're losing soldiers four and five a week.
I hope and pray the hostages will come back.
Hamas could end this tomorrow by laying down their weapons and releasing the hostages.
There is no future for the Palestinian people as long as Hamas is around.
So all I can say is that you're going to see, I think, in the next days and weeks, a military effort to destroy Hamas akin to what we did in Tokyo and Berlin to destroy the Nazis and the Japanese.
steve bannon
So Eric Prince, wow, you've been involved in discussions and things around there since the very beginning of this war.
When Lindsey Graham says, you talked about the first day of the Somme where the British Army, I think, lost 70,000 men, Lindsey Graham is equating the final stroke by the IDF and Netanyahu against the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas as being equivalent, you got to do Tokyo in Berlin.
Memory serves me correctly.
We firebombed Tokyo.
Quite frankly, I think the net effect was worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In Berlin, we bombed back into the Stone Age.
Gaza looks pretty bad.
What is he talking about?
How could it get any more horrific in Gaza with just the military conflict, sir?
eric prince
They've already flattened all of Gaza.
It's completely uninhabitable.
I don't know why they've allowed themselves to be held hostage by having hostages.
If you have that much of a mismatch militarily between what the IDF can feel versus what Hamas can, it's taken way, way, way too long.
It's extremely frustrating for me to see this because I gave them the option early on, like three weeks after the October 7, before the ground offensive even started, I brought them a fully funded drilling and flooding program to flood all the tunnels and take that away as a way for Hamas to keep hiding.
And they didn't do it.
And so Hamas is a death cult.
They are completely bad, no question.
And they need to die.
But there's a huge part of the Israeli population that wants to extinct Gaza as well.
And so the real losers in this are the normal people in Gaza that are just trying to live and survive and feed their families.
And I'm really disgusted at this point with how long this has gone on, that even the only church, the only Catholic church in Gaza, some tank takes a pot shot at it at the steeple.
Now, Steve, sorry, a Merkaba tank has 120 millimeter smooth bore cannon that is going about more than 5,000 feet per second.
That is a very, very flat shooting round.
And it was an elevated shot which hit the steeple.
I think somebody was taking a pot shot at the Christian cross on that steeple and it killed three Christians in that church.
And enough.
And you know what?
The U.S. should not pay for any more of this at all.
The time of subsidizing the IDF as an American taxpayer must end.
Enough of it.
It is not our problem.
steve bannon
So you have Lindsey Graham and the Tom Cottons of the world that are cheering on.
And like you said, you've had two years.
We said at the beginning, if you've Got to go through hell, go through as quickly as possible for a whole host of reasons.
We're now deep into the second year of this, or getting up to the second year of this.
But you have Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton and others on Capitol Hill saying, oh, if you want to take a Berlin and Tokyo strategy in World War II, have at it.
I mean, how do you put constraints on that?
That's coming from the American side, sir.
eric prince
That's coming from a couple of senators.
Again, this is not something we have to pay for.
I feel, look, the goodwill that Israeli society has built up with a lot of the tech they've developed in agriculture and water and safe cities and all the rest has largely been shredded because of this endless war that has dragged on.
And I am starting to wonder how was all that intelligence apparatus so blind to that level of buildup that they allowed October 7 to happen and were caught so unawares, especially on an anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, where they were also caught unawares in 73.
steve bannon
Eric, you put a plan together in May, I think, of 2017 to basically present it to President Trump.
He read your piece in the Wall Street Journal.
He saw you on Fox explaining it for a couple of days.
He loved your idea about how to make sense on a rapid but smart kind of downsizing and ultimate withdrawal from Afghanistan that the deep state, basically the Pentagon of the deep state did not allow us to effectuate.
And you saw what happened with Biden years and years later.
What would be your advice to President Trump today if you were in the oval with him about avoiding getting into kinetic conflict in Ukraine and in Gaza right now, sir?
eric prince
Not a place that U.S. forces should be engaged on the ground or for that matter in Yemen as well with the Battle of Mandab.
Once the U.S. gets involved, the momentum of incrementalism is very, very difficult to stop, and it takes a severe jolt to the system to interrupt that kind of momentum.
And we've already spent billions and billions and billions of dollars in Yemen.
Fails.
We have spent tens, hundreds of billions of dollars supporting Ukraine.
Fail.
What the IDF has done to Gaza is terrible.
I understand they're trying to get their hostages back, but they have killed thousands and thousands and thousands of Palestinian civilians, and they have created multiple generations of more people that viscerally hate them and cannot wait to be a suicide bomber.
That is militarily a fail overall.
steve bannon
Eric, I know you got a podcast now.
Where do people go to get your content, sir?
eric prince
Well, I'm on X at Real Eric D. Prince, and my podcast is called Off Leash with Eric Prince.
Although I've been deficient of late in putting up any new episodes because I'm busy with some interesting work overseas.
steve bannon
When Eric Prince says, interesting work.
Eric, thank you so much.
Honored to have you on here.
Great thinking, great analysis, and great advice.
Thank you, brother.
eric prince
Keep up the great work, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Interesting work coming from Eric Prince.
eric prince
Wow.
steve bannon
Don't know where that's going to lead, but I'm sure somewhere.
I want to cut that.
For Eric Prince to say that, but he knows the IDF guys well.
He knows, obviously, the Israelis very well.
He did come up with a plan in the first days of this horrible situation about flooding the tunnels and doing other things like that to try to get up the curve quicker that we're not taking.
His plan for Afghanistan was still the best plan.
And of course, the deep state and the Pentagon fought it tooth and nail.
Why?
They hadn't come up with the Ukraine war.
You've got to have something, got to have a forever war going somewhere to pay the bills or to make sure or justify the bills getting paid.
John Lee, I'm going to join in a second, but I want to play this.
There's a horrific situation in Cincinnati at this jazz festival.
Last night, I think it's been renamed the Music Festival.
The chief of police and she's a beauty, a piece of work, just had a press conference.
I want to play this in its entirety.
It's about five or six minutes, but I want to see you what the good folks in Cincinnati got defending them.
Let's go ahead and play it.
teresa a theetge
Thanks for coming out, folks.
I want to take a minute to give you guys an overview of the incident from the weekend.
First of all, I think it's very important that everybody understands we had well over 150,000 people in the downtown area this weekend.
We had a major big three basketball tournament at the arena.
We had a Reds game with large crowds.
And we had the Cincinnati Music Festival.
Wonderful, wonderful events for this city and all the people who attended it.
Unfortunately, we had one incident, one incident late Friday night into Saturday morning that is getting all the attention and undoing the good stuff that happened this weekend.
That's the incident that you're well aware of that occurred at Forth and Elm.
I, like many, woke up Saturday morning to the video.
The incident occurred, we got our first call at 3.06 a.m.
First officers were on the scene at 3.12 a.m.
Based on the body cam footage that I've watched, that response time Is completely acceptable because the downtown area still had traffic congestion from all of the events.
Upon arrival, the fight was over with.
The fight was over with when the officers arrived.
And the majority of the participants were gone.
The officers did exactly what they are trained to do.
They gathered information from the victims that were still at the scene to complete an offense report.
I will tell you, at this time, we have victims and suspects identified, and we have charged five people in this offense.
I'm not going to release that information to you.
I will say, if individuals were down there and participated in this event, it would be in their best interest to come turn themselves in at one of our police districts.
We have five we have charged and anticipate more.
Let me be clear.
Anyone, anyone who put their hands on another individual during this incident in an attempt to cause harm will face consequences.
I don't care which side of the incident or the fight they were on.
If they place their hands on somebody in an attempt to cause harm, that is unacceptable.
This is still an open investigation and all potential charges are being investigated for everyone involved.
All investigative tools and techniques are on the table, including were some of these individuals overserved at some local establishments.
It is clear to us that alcohol played a part, a significant part, in this incident.
I want to thank every citizen who has come forward and provided us with information.
Some of those tips have led to the charges being signed.
However, for us to have 100 or so people down there involved in and or watching this event recording with their cell phones and for us to get only one phone call of this incident is unacceptable in this city.
One person did the right thing.
steve bannon
Somehow I don't get a big, just, it's maybe me.
I just don't feel a high level of confidence.
That's the police chief.
Right there, the reason I wanted to play it, that is the epitome of the, besides that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Oh, we had, you know, hundreds of thousands of people, but you had this incident.
And that happened on, was it Friday night, Saturday morning?
Here we are Monday afternoon and still not sorted out.
No, ma'am, that's just not what citizens of Cincinnati expect or anticipate.
Really a total and complete debacle there.
Let me bring more of that tomorrow, I'm sure.
Let me bring in John Leak.
He and Dr. McCullough have just written an amazing new book, Vaccines.
And the title's provocative.
What is your, it's vaccines.
What's the subtitle that you've used, John Leak?
john leake
Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
And you'll see, Steve, I believe you're an observant Roman Catholic.
see that 20 euro silver coin that was issued by the Vatican in 2022 commemorating the COVID-19 messenger mRNA vaccine.
We go into...
steve bannon
Not the church's Now you know we're kind of a rebel group in there.
You're right.
Your head's blown up when you see something like that, correct?
john leake
Well, I mean, what we've discovered going back to this smallpox outbreak in Boston, Massachusetts in 1721, that's really the beginning of our story.
Cotton Mather, who a fellow Harvard man, I believe he's still the youngest Harvard graduate in history, graduated from Harvard at the age of 11, was a real prodigy.
He was a consulting scholar for the Salem witch trials.
Cotton Mather was a very fascinating man, and he happens to be the first great advocate of smallpox inoculation.
And so we start with Cotton Mather, and what we see going from Cotton Mather in 1721 all the way to the COVID-19 mass vaccination in 2021, so it's 300-year history, is that the vaccine enterprise is really more of a religious enterprise than a scientific enterprise.
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Wow.
steve bannon
John, hang on for a second.
You've already got me rolling here with Cotton Mather, 11-year-old grad of Harvard and the consulting theologian for the Salem witch trials.
John Leake is with us.
The book is provocative.
Even the title is provocative.
Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
As only Dr. McCullough and John Leake can give it to you from Sky Horse Press.
John's going to be on the other side as Bobby Kennedy and the crew over at HHS now start to rev up this whole platinum science and really get down to the bottom of this situation with these vaccines.
I want to Thank Birch Gold.
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The second hour, Eric Prince, we visit, put our toe into the water in Cincinnati.
Very, very disturbing what happened there, and really disturbing response by the police.
And I think you can see why.
That's DEI.
That's a poster for DEI right there.
I'm not feeling great seeing who your chief of police is.
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steve bannon
Okay, John Leak's with us.
So the title, what is it?
Peter, who's the guy at Baylor?
Hostess, Dr. Hostess, the vaccine expert from Baylor?
Yeah, Dr. Peter Hostess.
He's going to be in the fetal position just on the title.
You and McCulloch are bullies and picking on him.
Just the title of the book.
Vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality.
What do you mean by even the title of the book, sir?
john leake
Well, there's this enduring mythology that vaccines have been the main drivers of reducing infectious disease mortality.
And it's just not true.
All you have to do is look at published U.S. vital statistics, and you see that years before the modern vaccine era began with the diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis vaccine, which was recommended for everyone,
all children, to receive in 1948, years prior to the introduction of mass vaccination, all of the infectious diseases, with the exception of polio, the mortality had already plummeted by well more than 90%.
The primary drivers of reducing infectious disease mortality was sanitation, improved nutrition, housing, just elevated standards of living across the board, food hygiene and safety, pasteurization of milk.
So by the time we get to the era of modern vaccination, we've already seen a dramatic reduction of infectious disease mortality.
But there's this enduring myth that this reduction of mortality is attributable to vaccines.
And the published statistical data shows that this just isn't true.
The other thing that we explore in the book is for good reason.
And I think to give, for example, Cotton Mather his due, he had children and his wife died of a virulent measles outbreak in Boston in 1713.
So, I mean, the man experienced the pain of loss from infectious diseases.
And what we show is, in a very poignant way, it's understandable why mankind fell in love with this idea of inoculation.
And then later in the 18th century, the end of the 18th century rather, with vaccination with Edward Jenner in Gloucestershire, England, it's a very charming idea, a weak form of infectious disease matter protecting against severe disease and death.
So we don't dismiss the whole concept of vaccination.
We think that some vaccines have shown to have utility.
What we want to do is just bring vaccines back into the arena of critical evaluation and discussion.
Because for the longest time, you can't even question their safety and efficacy, or you will be treated as something akin to a heretic.
So we want to get out of branding people like Robert Kennedy heretics or something akin to a heretic and excommunicating them.
And we want to invite and welcome critical questioning and evaluation.
That's really the objective of our book.
steve bannon
What is, if someone, we want people to get this book, it's a great handbook and it gets you up to speed on all of it.
What do you believe the reader will take away, the lay reader that's coming this to the first time and maybe was involved or paid attention when we shifted to war and pandemic and we would have people on here multiple times a day to go through this?
What would the general reader take away from your book?
john leake
The general reader will be surprised by the amount of fraud and chicanery that we document throughout the entire vaccine enterprise.
Strangely enough, in spite of medical science undeniably improving during the late 20 and early 20th century, we were surprised to discover that the most crass fraud and chicanery was actually perpetrated with the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine.
It doesn't work.
It's not safe.
It's not effective.
It doesn't prevent transmission.
One of the most astonishing documents that we present in the book was a 2022 paper by none other than Anthony Fauci himself, in which he and his colleagues, two of them at the NIH, they plainly state that a blood antibody inducing shot in the arm in the deltoid muscle inducing the creation of blood antibodies,
that kind of vaccine is not effective against influenza and coronaviruses, which rapidly replicate in the nose so that you have replication and transmission in the nose before blood antibodies can be brought to bear on it.
So Vauci himself, now mind you, the press doesn't publicize Fauci's 2022 paper.
We present it in the book.
But there is an understanding that the COVID-19 vaccine was never going to prevent infection and transmission, and yet it was mandated.
So the whole thing is as provocative as this will sound, it's a patent absurdity.
The entire COVID-19 vaccine program is a fraud.
So we were rather astonished to discover that.
But the evidence which we present, and we cite all of the papers, as you know, Dr. Peter McCullough's Walking Medical Encyclopedia, it's all cited.
It's all there.
I think the reader will be astonished by what we present.
steve bannon
Okay, this is why I want people to read the book because there's two things going forward.
There's Bobby Kennedy's, we're going to get to platinum level science and we're going to treat this all fair, but this whole thing with autism and how it started and the 72 vaccines kids got to have, we're going to have dispassionate platinum level science to understand where we are with this and how we go forward.
The other part of the book, the other part of this is to hold people accountable and responsible for the fiasco during the pandemic.
And at least in reading your book as a layman, how can anybody possibly ever again look at the public health service or the public health?
Because they were 1 million percent on this.
I mean, this is why people were kicked out of the military.
This is why so many people couldn't get on airplanes.
I mean, everybody associated with the worm and our production team were adamantly, and many of the people we're close to and family members are purebloods, no vaccine at all.
But during the time, that was a very dangerous way to live one's life.
So how can you read your book and not come away with the fact that thank God Bobby Kennedy's here to do platinum-level science?
But you've got to hold responsible, particularly the entire public health system, the entire kind of medical profession, all of biopharmaceutical, and the mainstream media from the New York Times to MSNBC is in on the fix, sir.
john leake
Well, I think what the reader will see is that the great forbidden fruit in this story was granting the vaccine manufacturers blanket liability protection with the Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.
The vaccine manufacturers went to Congress and they said, look, we can't make these 100% safe.
There's going to be a certain percentage of children that have strong reactions to these vaccines and suffer injury and death.
The pharmaceutical companies or the vaccine manufacturers argued that the number of children harmed by the vaccines would be greatly exceeded by the number of children who would suffer severe illness and death if they weren't vaccinated.
So as a result of this argument, which we show in our book, there are many reasons to doubt this.
It's an argument from expediency.
But this was the argument that was made.
And in response, Congress granted not only the existing vaccines on the schedule blanket liability protection, but also any vaccine that henceforth was added to the schedule.
So we believe that this was sort of the forbidden, this was the original sin.
And since the vaccine injury act was, childhood vaccine injury act was passed in 1986, you've had this enormous surprise, surprise, proliferation of shots that have been put on the schedule.
And that timeline of an increasing number of shots, many of which are multivalent, there's multiple disease agents, either attenuated or inactivated that are included in each of these shots.
With the proliferation of shots, on that same timeline, you see a dramatic increase of autism.
And the CDC doesn't even try to deny that autism has, we have seen a dramatic spike in the prevalence in incidents.
But the irony, which is almost laughable, is, well, we don't know what causes autism.
We really don't know.
We just know for sure that it's not caused by vaccines.
So, I mean, on the face of it, this is fallacious.
So when Bobby Kennedy comes along and he says, well, now, wait a minute.
I mean, the timeline is clear.
unidentified
Can't we at least just take a look at this?
john leake
What we saw prior to him, by some kind of miracle, becoming HH Secretary, was excommunicate Bobby Kennedy.
So it is a rather remarkable turn of events that he's now HHS secretary, and he claims that he's going to press forward with this mission.
We are very anxious to see the result of it.
steve bannon
So one of the reasons he is is this audience had President Trump's back from the beginning and particularly when they stole the 2020 election.
And also this audience went fixed bayonets on the confirmation process of Pete Hegseth and Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard and others.
What do you anticipate with the publication of this book and the information in it and what Bobby has said about we've got to get the platinum level science?
Walk people through two things.
Bobby Kennedy going forward.
What do you anticipate to see?
And also, how does one begin to hold Fauci and the rest?
And remember, I'm a guy that said from the beginning that Fauci is a criminal.
How do you hold those guys accountable?
john leake
Well, I think that we've already established that Fauci was instrumental.
His NIAID was instrumental in funding and endorsing this gain of function research that was being performed with U.S. biotechnology.
That's Ralph Barracks, his biotechnology that he developed at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Peter Dazak at EcoHealth Alliance.
These guys were working closely with Shing Ji Li at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
And we show, again, I think the reader will be astonished.
There's nothing in this story that isn't plainly documented.
They published it in their papers, their grant proposals.
It's all there.
Fauci endorsed and approved of their research.
So there's no question that Fauci lied before Congress when he told Rand Paul, Senator Paul, that there was no gain of function being performed.
It's in Ralph Barrick's own papers that he was doing gain of function.
So there's no question that Fauci lied to Congress.
One could start with that.
But Trump himself, the president himself has stated in his White House website communiques about the origin of COVID-19 that this was in fact something that came out of the Wuhan lab with American biotechnology.
So once the reader sees the evidence of this, which we present, the next question is going to be, well, how are we to evaluate Fauci's endorsement of the COVID-19 vaccine, which was developed by the same players?
And I don't see how anyone can read our book, read the evidence that we present, and not walk away with the conclusion that Fauci should be prosecuted for at the very minimum lying to Congress, for perjuring himself before Congress, at the very minimum.
There are other possible avenues of prosecuting Fauci that I think are evident from reading the book as well.
steve bannon
And so what would those be?
You're the co-author of the book.
What would be perjury, you know, lying in front of Congress is one thing.
Are there deeper sins that you think are prosecutable?
john leake
Well, Fauci, by his own assertion in his 2022 paper, states that this kind of vaccine technology of inducing blood antibodies to the spike protein of this coronavirus,
he acknowledges that this isn't an effective technology for controlling coronaviruses or influenza viruses.
So if he's acknowledging that in his own paper, why is he endorsing the mass vaccination of the American public with this product, this emergency authorized use product, and completely censoring or advocating the censorship of anyone who even questions it.
So lawyers will have to parse out what exactly this means from a criminal liability standpoint.
But I mean, at the very minimum, I would say that this is strong elements of fraud, of lying about the product, of concealing the safety problems, of overstating the efficacy, which it seems to me all amounts to fraud in a rather grand way.
steve bannon
We want everybody possible to read this book, particularly those that have maybe lost contact with some of the basics here since the pandemic passed and there's been other fights we've had.
We got about a minute.
What is the best, give your best pitch of why someone should get this book and read it today?
john leake
I think any American with an open mind and an open heart who reads this book, it's a critical history and evaluation of the entire vaccine enterprise going back to the smallpox outbreak of Boston in 1721, will be absolutely astonished by the entire story from start to finish.
Dr. Peter McCullough and I have been talking about this and researching it for the last five years, and everything from Edward Jenner's first smallpox vaccine to Louis Pasteur's fraudulent misrepresentations about his anthrax animal vaccine to his chicken cholera vaccine,
we document, and it's not controversial, it's just not Very well known that Louis Pasteur committed multiple acts of fraud.
We see this fraud and chicanery running through the entire story.
And I think when the American people read our book, if they do so, they check all of the citations, they can go and look at the sources, it's all there.
I think they're going to demand that we start talking in a serious scientific way about the vaccine enterprise and support Bobby Kennedy 100% in the mission that he is set forth to achieve.
steve bannon
Brother Leake, fantastic.
Absolutely great.
And I know everybody's going to want to get this book.
Where do people go to get your writings, social media, and where do they go get the book, sir?
john leake
Dr. McCullough and I have a newsletter called The Focal Points, thefocalpoints.com, Dr. Peter McCullough and John Leake.
Dr. Peter McCullough, you can find him on X. He has a million followers.
And find the book on Amazon.
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steve bannon
John Leake, thank you very much.
Amazing.
I want everybody to get this.
Let's get back up to speed.
Bobby Kennedy's the tip of the spear in taking on what do you call it, the vaccine enterprise.
Amazing.
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