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July 17, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4638: Senate Passes The Recission Package; Restoring Our Constitution
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When Trump came into power, he was surrounded by ideologues who have been nursing these theories for quite some time that are really quite extreme.
One of the principal ones is a man named Russell Vogt.
He is someone who is a self-described Christian nationalist who has been around Washington for a long time.
He's seen how government works.
And he has an idea of really kind of radical changes he wants to implement.
And he's someone who knows how to do it.
My belief is that the president has to move executively as fast and as aggressively as possible with a radical constitutional perspective to be able to dismantle that bureaucracy and their power centers.
Before the election, Vogt laid out his vision in a chapter he wrote for the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, a blueprint for Trump's return.
The great challenge confronting a conservative president is the existential need for aggressive use of the vast powers of the executive branch.
He told us quite explicitly he wants to search out for pockets of independence from presidential control and stamp them out.
He's made no secret of the fact that he wants to wrest for the presidency more power over spending decisions away from Congress.
Trump and people around him understand what we have to do to get back to a constitutional republic.
We're going after the infrastructure and the plumbing and the wiring of the whole system.
We are not going to quit.
We're not going to surrender.
We're not going to take our foot off the gas pedal.
I want to ask you about another vote that took place just a few hours ago, early this morning, and that is the vote to claw back $9 billion in the budget from foreign aid and from public broadcasting.
$9 billion obviously a drop in the bucket, but these are doge cuts from the federal government.
There were two Republicans who did vote against it.
It was a 51-48 vote, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski saying, we cannot cede our power as the Congress to the executive branch to just make cuts to the budget as it wishes.
And yet Republicans did exactly that this morning.
So what is the significance of that vote?
Well, you're right, Willie.
It's a drop in the bucket, one-tenth of 1% of the total budget.
But it is profoundly important for its impact on local broadcasting.
PBS and NPR have a very, very important service role in supporting local broadcasting.
And this could be devastating to local news, whether it's the town council or the weather.
And around the world, the impact on foreign aid will be devastating as well.
But it's also a matter of principle.
You know, this move by Republicans is intolerable bait and switch.
They engaged in bipartisan action to approve this funding just months ago.
Now, unilaterally, in a very partisan way, one-sided, blanket canceling or clawing back of this money means that they are ceding essential authority to the president to determine what he's going to spend and what not, and to themselves, breaking the institution's bipartisan approach to appropriation.
So there is a constitutional issue here, and there's a practical issue of how we go forward in September when we're going to have to fund the government, and there has to be bipartisan support.
Why should Democrats go along with an agreement as to how to fund the government when that agreement can be simply shredded by the president or by a partisan Republican 50-vote majority?
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bam.
It's Thursday, 17 July in the year of our Lord 2025.
We're going to start today.
We're absolutely packed all the way up to the noon hour and then 5 to 7.
So let's get on with it.
Rust vote.
Really historic vote, I think, that finished in the pre-dawn hours.
Walkers, we've still got to go to the house.
This is basically the theory of the case that people have been working on for a number of years.
Walker, audience, why Blumenthal is right.
This was an actual historic vote today on a concept, right?
It actually had practical implications or media practical implications or NPR and some of the USAID.
But walk us through why this was so important or what happened with the first voting in the Senate to approve a resilience package of $9 billion from the President of the United States.
Thanks, Steve, for having me on.
I mean, it was an enormous victory last night.
The Senate was the critical juncture to get past that vote.
We had to tweak the package a little bit, but it's still $9 billion.
It's going back to the House.
I expect it to be passed either tonight or tomorrow.
And what's historic about it is just the return of using rescissions that can actually pass on a majority basis.
So when you're doing appropriations bills, those are generally all having to get through a Senate filibuster.
And so the Democrats have an opportunity to leverage it for 60 votes.
And what this is, is a new process.
We tried to do it in the first term, and it failed in the Senate.
And this is a return to that.
We started with small.
I know all the viewers, I love all the viewers.
They're like, why is it only $9 billion?
It's only $9 billion because we wanted to restore the process and make it as hard a vote for the House and the Senate as possible.
In the sense of, we know you don't want to do it, particularly the appropriators.
We know you're not thrilled about it, and so we want you to be for it.
And we want to package it with the foreign aid, package it with the corporation for public broadcasting.
That was the president's genius to put those two together, send it up, and restore a way of doing business that the American people can know when they put majorities in place in the House and Senate and a president that is all of one party, they can actually change spending and not be subject to the whims of the Democratic Party.
And you're hearing, it's kind of hilarious.
You're hearing all about this bipartisan appropriations process, that this will just destroy it.
Literally no one voted for a bipartisan appropriations process.
Certainly no Republicans voted for it.
And I don't think any Democrats voted for a bipartisan appropriations process.
They voted on the Republican side to balance the budget.
They voted to restore our fiscal house to order.
They voted to restore the debt to sustainable levels.
And this bill begins to do that.
And we have been looking carefully because we want to see was it successful before we will send additional ones.
This is the validation that we needed.
And we will have executive tools that are also available to make the Doge cuts, the OMB cuts permanent and something that we can actually use to reduce deficits.
Because when you say the bipartisan appropriations, that's essentially the swamp, the uniparty, right?
They always love to spend.
So they're going to spend.
They come together on one topic, and that's spending money.
I want to get down to granularity on this because we had the big, beautiful bill.
We're in fiscal year 25.
We're heading to, they're doing the appropriations now for fiscal year 26.
Blumenthal is already blaming you for the CR, right?
He's going to say, hey, we can't really, we're never going to be able to get to the single subject appropriations bills because we can't trust the administration because Rust Vote is just going to sit there and lay waste to us anyway.
Are you going to roll out additional rescissions packages for this fiscal year and then start immediately into the next fiscal year?
Is this something we should anticipate is going to be an ongoing process?
Yes, absolutely.
This is something we wanted to look to see whether they would vote for this.
If they did and it was successful, we'll send up additional packages.
And so, you know, I think one is likely to come very soon.
Stay tuned on that front.
And we want to make sure that when we are using all of our executive tools to be able to make these cuts permanent.
And if it changes the appropriations process, it changes the appropriations process.
The appropriations process has given us $37 trillion in debt and these bipartisan massive omnibus bills that no one's ever read before.
And so that's what that is, and by the way, half the time they don't even do that, so they are on a CR.
So the defenders of the appropriations process, it's not clear to me what is the positive agenda they're selling to the American people that actually will make their lives better.
We're here to say we're getting rid of woken weaponized government that's causing them to have high interest rates and passing on debt to their children and grandchildren that they can't afford.
President Trump is now doing something about it.
And I just want to back up for a second.
You all know that I kind of rose through the ranks of being a budget staffer and we would put together the lists of the conservative programs that we've hated for years, decades.
One of them was always Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
It made every single list and every single year, including the Gangridz Revolution, nothing was ever done about it.
And lo and behold, President Trump in his first six months, we're now on the one-yard line with another House vote.
The critical changes that were made in the Senate did not impact the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
We are now on the one-yard of having that defunded for two straight years.
Incredible, historic victory that President Trump, because he approaches things from a different way than this town is used to operating, he changes this town.
He doesn't let it change him.
He doesn't let it change his agenda.
And we're on a path to making substantial moves this year to balance the budget and get us on that road.
I want to go back.
PBS has done an hour and 20-minute, really incredible documentary.
Of course, we're not going to agree with everything, and neither are you.
But it talks about your efforts to really say, hey, the Article II powers here, particularly in controlling spending and the size of the government and letting people go, are not just unique, they're pretty broad, and we have to start to enforce that.
Do you believe that these actions you're taking now are going along the lines of the Constitution that you and the guys at Heritage and CRA and CPI and others have been working on for all four years in the interregnum between the first and second term?
Yeah, it's really important that we restore what the founding fathers would have understood to be the proper role of the legislative branch and the proper role of the executive branch.
And so it is absolutely crystal clear, hallmark constitutional principle, that Congress has the power of the purse and governs appropriation, setting that level.
What is that ceiling?
For 200 years, up until the 1970s, our founding fathers and our presidents exercised the ability to have the president be in charge of the spending of that appropriation and to spend less than the appropriation.
At the lowest moment of the presidency, they inserted in the Empowerment Control Act, which really caricatured this notion of what the power of the purse meant and made it so that you had to spend up to that level and kind of use it or lose it for a bureaucracy, which, oh, by the way, caused those bureaucracy not to be focused on the president, but to be focused on Congress.
And so you get the beginnings of the Imperial Congress.
And so all that we're doing, and President Trump ran on this, he ran on the Impoundment Control Act being unconstitutional on the notion of impoundments.
All the President is doing is restoring our constitutional system To what it was at the founding, and not letting a post-Watergate Democratic majority dictate for us the extent to which we have the ability to have a say in how things are spent and how they're not spent.
Do you think we'll go to actually go to impoundments?
Are you going to continue down the rescissions process?
It's very much on the table.
We're certainly not taking it off, and we're going to go through this.
We're a sailboat trying to get to port.
We're going to tick and tack all the way there, and I think it's going to be something we need your audience to pay attention to.
I'm glad you're the helmsman.
We should give a special shout out to Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri.
I think he was a tremendous ally of yours in trying to pound this through.
Senator Schmidt was a warrior.
I mean, he spent the whole day on the floor beating back amendments constantly, and the war room posse should definitely get his back with some acclamation and the job they did to help President Trump.
Russ, where do people go to follow you on social media, sir?
At Russ Vote, they can get me, and at OMB Press.
Thank you, brother.
Historic day.
$9 billion, but it's a start.
And look at the effort they had to put in.
I mean, Russ Vote, Eric Schmidt of Missouri, others worked this nonstop.
And the Democrats are in shock that I don't think one's been done since 1999.
Last big one that was done, I think, was President Reagan.
Historic.
And more coming.
They've got a bunch of other rescissions coming.
And like Rush just said right there, if they start blocking the recisions, they'll come with the impoundments.
Because President Trump believes the Impoundment Control Act is totally and completely unconstitutional.
Short commercial break.
Back in the warm in just a moment.
In America.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
Okay, a lot going on at Capital Markets.
By the way, later in the show, we'll have Laura Loomer and Alex Jones.
So they're going to be joining us as scheduled.
If we can make sure we track them down.
So Loomer in the first hour and Alex Jones in the second.
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Jason Trennert joins us.
Jason, we haven't had you in a couple months.
Jason, actually, you were going to go into the administration as, I think, undersecretary or assistant secretary.
You've been under the weather.
You've had some ill health recently.
First of all, the audience wants to know how you're doing.
I'm doing okay.
Thanks for asking, Steve.
I've got a ways to go.
I'm heartbroken that I am not in the administration.
I was going to be Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for financial markets, but unfortunately, kind of life intervened, and I've got to focus on my health here for a while.
But we're making a lot of progress, and hopefully I'll be back in the saddle before too long.
Let's talk about that, the financial markets, because I want to ask you this question about the Fed.
There's a lot of controversy, a spilling we had here in Real America's Voice.
Our own John Solomon interviewed President yesterday at about 9 o'clock in the morning.
He says, no, I'm not going to replace Powell.
He reiterated that at the press aveo he had with the crown prince and prime minister of Bahrain.
And we're hearing two things.
Number one, legally, they don't know if they can do it.
Number two, about the markets.
Given the big, beautiful bill has passed, and that's still quite controversial, right?
President Trump is now going on the road to sell that deal.
What's your sense of the financial markets' response to the big, beautiful bill and where Jason Trenner thinks we are in the summer of 25?
Well, in terms of the one big beautiful bill, I mean, it's probably a little larger than I would like, but I know that's kind of the way the sausage is made.
But there are provisions in the bill, particularly full expensing of research and development, of capital expenditures, of factory building, that I think are extremely exciting and will lead to productivity, which is, in my opinion, the only way the U.S. is going, the U.S. has to grow its way out of its debt.
It's not going to be able to cut spending its way out of its debt.
It's not going to be able to raise taxes enough.
As Margaret Thatcher said, you know, sooner or later you run out of other people's money.
We're right at that precipice here in New York.
So in my opinion, the U.S. has to grow itself out.
And in my opinion, that one big beautiful bill gives a lot of incentives for businesses not to do financial engineering, but to actually invest in capital and in their own businesses.
No, I've heard from a number of real estate people throughout the country that people are contacting them about plants, about starting to make investments in capital equipment to actually grow manufacturing.
So we'll see how that plays out.
But that's the theory.
As you know, Scott Besson, who you were going to go work for and you're very close to, has said this is the last supply side, this is the last shot we had at a supply side cut.
So we got it, and now we got to make sure that it's executed.
Walk me through your, particularly some turmoil in the out years in the bond market, the 20s and 30s.
What is your sense of this discussion about the Fed chair, this new, the Versailles he's building, the controversy over the architecture of the Capitol and OMB, and plus the job he's doing and President Trump continuing to hammer him every day?
Well, you know, I have a different interpretation, Steve, of, and I'm certainly, I am not an intimate of President Trump, so I'm speaking extemporaneously here.
But I think President Trump, it's not just a problem with Jay Powell, it's a problem with the institution itself.
It's a problem with the swamp itself.
And the Fed is pretty swampy in many ways, right?
It stays out of politics, so that's the good thing, but no one knows what they're doing.
And it's an enormous institution.
My dad used to say, nothing good happens after midnight.
And at the Federal Reserve, they have 800 PhD economists.
And I would say nothing good happens when you have 800 PhD economists.
And I think President Trump is right that the organization does not have to be nearly as big as it is to do the job it's doing, which I have to say hasn't been particularly great over the past four or five years.
So I don't think it would be a good idea for President Trump to fire Jay Powell, in my own opinion.
I think that would be counterproductive as far as the markets are concerned, but I can understand why he's upset.
In terms of the out years, I think that there is a tendency, there has been a tendency to issue more short-term debt than long-term debt.
And the fact that the out years are moving up price suggests that people don't believe that the U.S. government can get its financial house in order.
And the decline in the dollar, too, this year, I think, is another indication, this strength of gold.
I think are other indications that people are hedging against what they view as just money printing from fiat currency-based economies.
Last thing, I haven't had a chance to go through it all, but I understand President Trump's a new executive order that really changes, is going to change pretty dramatically the range of alternatives, things you can do on a 401k.
This is kind of your line of focus.
Any observations on what you've seen so far on the 401k EO?
Yeah, I mean, I get it, Steve.
I mean, you know, private equity has been, it certainly has been a good performer for a long period of time, but it's high fee and low liquidity, right?
So, you know, whether it's appropriate really for retirement plans, it really depends on the age of the person that you're talking about.
What would worry me is that certain private equity funds might not put the best assets in the funds that are available to the retail investor.
And I'm not saying, I'm not casting any aspersions on anyone, but stranger things have happened.
And I think it's good for people to have more options as a capitalist.
By the same token, I think people have to be made aware of the risks that they're taking.
Jason Trenard said, like a very savvy Wall Street guy, far be it from our private equity fund to dump maybe some of the cats and dogs in a certain fund.
Jason, you look so much better.
We pray every day for your recovery.
And great, this is the first time you've hit the media, I think, four or five months.
Really appreciate you making the war room your priority.
Social media, where do they go to find you, sir?
I'm on X. I'm on Twitter.
So that's the best way to find me.
And also www.strategisrp.com.
By the way, your father was a very wise man.
Nothing good happens after midnight.
That's right.
Particularly with you've got teenagers.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
All right, my man.
Jason Trump.
Take care.
All right.
Bye.
Thank you.
Jason was going to be Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Markets, one of the smartest guys around.
Shows you the team that Scott Besson's bringing together a lot on the capital market side, and particularly the fact that Russ votes a pretty historic day.
A lot more is also going on.
I mean, it's almost hard to keep track of all of it.
The House is going to have, I think, a voterama for the next 24, 48 hours.
They're trying to get out of town, I guess, on Friday, but they've not only got the rescission package, they've got this.
MTG is going to join us.
A lot of confusion about what's happening on the Genius Act of whether the central bank digital currency backdoor has been shut down or not.
Of course, a number of people in the House joined Roe Conna last night in being co-sponsors of Epstein amendment they want to put forward for the full disclosure of all that.
Also, John Solomon is waiting for a story today on NBC News about a meeting that took place on Sunday about declassifying really a bunch of emails and other classified documents around this attempt to remove President Trump from the presidency, starting with Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, obviously the Comey, the MOLA commission, all of this.
This investigation is actually, you're seeing a lot of teeth put into it.
Major story today about a declassification of documents that's going to spur that forward.
And we're hearing that that is what they're looking to put a special counsel on right away because this is going to be a quite complicated situation to go through basically 10 years.
But there's a lot going on there.
I think Ed Martin may be involved.
Also, the vote today, if we can pull that up, that's happening of Emil Bove as a federal appeals judge.
And there's a lot of discussion that he would be fast-tracked to the next opening of the Supreme Court, one of President Trump's lawyers and a guy that we couldn't think more highly of.
Also, I think Judge Janine is also being confirmed today as the U.S. Attorney for Washington, D.C., one of the most powerful, powerful positions in the entire government.
So things are all, it's happening in Washington, D.C. today.
We're going to keep up to speed on all of it.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Laura Loomer on the other side, she's been on fire the last couple of days, really identifying many issues that get buried in these radical Democrats to somehow get into positions of power without anybody vetting them or checking it.
Birch Gold, right there, you had Trenert and you had Russ vote.
as Jason just said, the fiat currency, and particularly at the level that we're spending, it looked like the proposed, unless we get more rescissions cuts or get our arms around this appropriations process, appropriations process, folks understand we're hurtling towards a CR on September 30th of this year.
Once again, it doesn't look like they're going to get the appropriations process together because they can't make enough cuts and they can't agree or anything.
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Back in a moment with Laura Loomer.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Man.
Okay, Laura Loomer joins us.
Laura, you've been quite a role over the last, I don't know, 48, 72 hours.
Just walk through the Laura Loomer hip parade.
Let's start with Comey's daughter.
Let's start with her, but then go down because you've got a bunch of other scalps and you've also identified some people that haven't been removed yet, but should be removed that only Laura Loomer and her research can get done.
So just take it.
Let's walk me through the punch list.
Yeah, well, thanks so much for having me.
Look, the vetting crisis continues in this administration.
It's something that I've been addressing since President Trump was inaugurated in January of this year.
And the problem is, Steve, is that we're seeing a lot of the deep state operatives and Biden and Obama holdovers who really, you know, carried out this coup against President Trump, participated in the stolen election, participated in all of the indictments and the sabotage of President Trump still working in the Trump administration.
So back in May, I had pointed out the fact that Maureen Comey and her husband were still working at the DOJ.
And I had, you know, been beating the drum against Pam Blondie, as I call her, because I was the first person to call for Pam Blondie to be fired or to resign after she embarrassed the president at Bindergate, right?
Bindergate with the Epstein files over at the White House.
And so, you know, people said that it was unhinged to call for her to be fired, but now everybody is singing the same tune.
Imagine that.
That being said, it took two months, right?
Two months to the date.
The day I first posted this was May 16th.
And yesterday, July 16th is when Pam Blondie, I guess, decided to fire Maureen Comey from the DOJ.
However, her husband still remains there where he is employed.
And so, you know, my question is, why is James Comey's son-in-law still working at the DOJ?
But hang on for a second.
Pam's defense, wasn't Comey running the trial of Diddy or P. Diddy, whatever he's called?
When you called for it in May, and don't get me wrong, having Comey's daughter around is obscene, right?
Given the fact that now they're declassifying documents that he may be under criminal indictment for trying to have a coup against President Trump.
But wasn't the daughter in a position at the time that they couldn't remove her given the trial?
Well, they could have addressed this.
I don't remember which day exactly the Diddy trial started, but this should have been done on day one when President Trump was inaugurated.
So they should have had a list of all of the people who participated in these witch hunts, people who were family members or associates of the worst offenders.
We know that Comey is one of the worst offenders.
Even in his so-called retirement, he's inciting violence against Donald Trump, calling for him to be assassinated, pretending like he doesn't know what 8647 means.
But, you know, look, the point is, is that there's a lot of people at the DOJ who are unqualified and unfit to be there.
They're holdovers, and this is going to jeopardize the Trump administration.
Moving on to another one of these individuals who I identified, it's an individual by the name of Monty Hawkins, who was just fired yesterday, two days after I exclusively reported.
His position, by the way, he's a senior national security advisor and the director of the National Vetting Center at Customs and Border Patrol.
This guy is a Biden holdover, and he hates Trump.
He hates Trump and he hates ICE.
And he is in charge of the vetting center, Steve.
He's in charge of the technological vetting center that CBP uses along with ICE to determine who comes into our country.
So imagine this.
We have a guy who's sympathetic to illegal aliens, who hates Trump and loves Joe Biden's open border policies and who thinks that ICE is a stain on what policing is supposed to be.
That's a real LinkedIn post that he liked.
He shared all these anti-ICE articles on his LinkedIn and liked them when ICE was carrying out their raids in Los Angeles.
That's a national security threat.
How do you know that this guy isn't rigging the algorithm in this vetting database so that more illegal aliens come in?
How do you know that he's not trying to fluff the numbers to actually undermine President Trump's mass deportation campaign?
You don't know.
And so I'm proud to report that he has been identified, fired, and officially loomered.
So one down, many more to go.
Tricia McLaughlin, who's the assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, confirmed to me yesterday that the White House had signed off on Monty's termination.
So that's great news.
Another vetting crisis, and this one is very egregious.
I know when I texted this to you, you couldn't even believe it.
You said this probably couldn't be true, but it is, unfortunately.
If you remember the raid on Mar-a-Lago, they said that President Trump violated the Presidential Records Act.
They said that he took 15 boxes of alleged classified documents to Mar-a-Lago in violation of the Presidential Records Act.
How did this come about?
How did President Trump get referred for investigation and indictment and ultimately an FBI raid by the Biden DOJ?
Well, there's a guy by the name of David Ferrario, who was the archivist during the time of the Trump administration.
David is the guy who said, well, you know, I saw President Trump and Melania leaving and they had boxes and I said, what the hell is he doing?
And so I was notified about this and then I reported him to the DOJ.
Well, what they don't say, and there's one article in the Washington Post that I was able to uncover that identified who exactly told David Ferrario this information.
His name is Philip Troge, and he currently serves as the White House Director of Records Management.
And that was his position in the first administration as well.
He's the guy that told David Ferrario that President Trump was in violation and that he should be referred for violations.
And that's what prompted the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
And according to the congressional report on White House personnel that was just submitted for the month of July to members of Congress that I reviewed, Philip Droge is still employed where he's making almost $200,000 a year, if you can believe it, working as, get this, the White House director of records management, Steve.
Unbelievable.
So the guy who literally prompted the raid on Mar-a-Lago and the harassment campaign of President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump that almost led to Donald Trump getting arrested and jailed in the middle of the 2024 presidential election is still working as the White House director of records management.
You literally cannot make this crap up.
And it's a testament to just how horrible the vetting is.
And look, I love President Trump and I get along with some of his staff.
Some of them, you know, don't really like me too much.
It's not exactly a secret.
Everybody knows.
But that being said, they should be doing their job to vet these people and to make sure that President Trump is not surrounded by people who, one, participated in the indictment or the witch hunt against him or referred him for prosecution investigation.
It's unbelievable.
So I'm still awaiting news from the White House on whether or not Philip Droge is going to be terminated from his position.
I know that the White House is in possession of this expose.
I know that it's pretty shocking.
Hopefully this is addressed because, look, it's an absolute abomination.
One more.
And this is all in one week, by the way.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
I was going to say there's one more.
I want to get all the scalps and then I'm going to ask you about the process.
So go on.
Give me another scalp.
This is another one.
So just in one week, these are four people who I've been able to identify.
So everybody's been talking about the IceBlock app.
The IceBlock app, which is this app that unfortunately is being, you know, proliferated in the Apple App Store, despite the fact that Tim Cook or Tim Apple, as President Trump likes to call him, claims that he is now supporting the Trump administration.
Well, that's a blatant lie.
IceBlock is this app that is being promoted by the Democrats and the radical left in Antifa to dox ICE agents, to identify when ICE raids are taking place and to dox them and harass them and disrupt their raids so that they can't identify and capture illegal aliens.
We know that this is creating a serious national security and public safety risk because several ICE officers have been attacked in the middle of their ICE raids.
They had a shooting in Texas where somebody tried to shoot some ICE officers in the middle of a raid.
And we've seen in Los Angeles, they're throwing rocks at these people.
They're shooting at them.
It's unbelievable, trying to literally murder these ICE agents.
And this app is helping to facilitate that violence.
So the guy who founded the app, his name is Joshua Aaron.
He goes by Joshua Aaron.
His real name is Joshua Aaron Feinstein.
He lives in Austin, Texas.
I was able to discover that his wife, Caroline Feinstein, is literally employed at the DOJ.
She is literally an auditor at the DOJ in Austin, Texas.
So the wife of the guy who created the Santifa app to go around and dox ICE officials and obstruct and interfere in President Trump's mass deportation campaign is literally working at the DOJ.
So Pam Blondie needs to, you know, do some vetting.
I don't know.
Maybe they need to bring some other people onto the DOJ because you got, what do you got?
You have, you have, you have this guy, you have this guy whose wife is literally working at the, at the DOJ.
And then you have all these problems with Maureen Comey and her, and her husband.
I don't know what's going on at the DOJ.
It's not a secret that I'm not a fan of Pam Blondie, but at the end of the day, if Pam Blondie really wants to change the news cycle on Epstein, she should immediately announce the termination of these individuals.
She should immediately announce the termination of Caroline Feinstein.
And, you know, she should start announcing investigations, criminal investigations into Joshua Aaron and Caroline Feinstein for their role in facilitating violence against ICE agents.
And she should also announce the firing of James Comey's son-in-law, Maureen Comey's husband.
The ICE thing is obviously huge, as these other ones are too.
Let me ask you, you have, just walk the audience through, you have political appointees.
We have 4,000.
I think you get 1,000 that have the Senate confirmed, but you get 4,000 that hit the deck plates running.
They are vetted, okay?
Most of these are not political appointees.
It sounds like they're.
They're supposed to be vetted.
I think, obviously, you have an issue with the vetting process for what we call the politicals, right?
You don't think it's done well enough.
In fact, you took down, I think, six members of the National Security Council in pretty senior positions because they weren't vetted.
And your vetting is about associations they've had, their social media, et cetera.
Is that what you look for?
And the NSA director.
And the NSA director.
And the NSA director as well.
Yeah, look, they.
My question is, is we saw the intel agencies get weaponized against President Trump.
And I don't understand why the media had to, you know, go in another OCD meltdown.
Oh, my God, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer.
They're just, you know, they're so obsessed with every single time I put out a report referring for somebody to be fired.
Well, my question is, how come the Biden holdovers and the Obama holdovers are still in the administration?
We saw that they weaponized the intel agencies.
They spied on Donald Trump.
This is not a conspiracy theory.
This is a fact.
Crossfire Hurricane.
I mean, hello.
Why would you want anybody who has an allegiance to Joe Biden or Barack Hussein Obama serving in this administration or anybody who passed their so-called vetting?
We know that in order to work for Biden or Obama, you had to hate Trump or you had to hate Republicans, you have to hate this country.
I wouldn't say that any of the people that work for them in senior intel or national security positions love this country because if they had any concern or regard for our national security, they would have told Joe Biden to close the damn border and to not allow 25 million criminal, illegal aliens, many of whom are criminal-wanted Islamic jihadist terrorists on the national terror watch list to come into our country.
So these people never spoke out about the national security threat that Joe Biden was creating for our country.
So of course they should be fired.
They are unfit.
Anybody who has any sympathy to Joe Biden or has any type of allegiance to the Obama administration or the Biden administration should absolutely be terminated.
We need to have loyalty tests.
There needs to be purity tests in this administration.
Obama did it.
Biden did it.
They fired everybody who worked for Trump because of J6, if you recall.
Why can't Trump have loyalty tests and purity tests?
Why not?
Every other administration has purity tests.
Why can't Trump have a purity test?
And show as a fact, this is the whole reason they're going to, I think, release today more, they're going to declassify certain emails around Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Comey, Brennan, all of it.
This is this entire investigation, this criminal conspiracy that John Solomon keeps talking about, that they're very close to announcing a special prosecutor on.
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Okay, we just had a little drama on the floor of the Senate.
Corey Booker went ballistic.
I think this is on the vote of Emil Bove, went ballistic.
And the entire all the Democrat senators walked out, I think, before the vote.
Doesn't mean the vote's not going to take place.
They all walked out in a dramatic movement.
We're going to have that at the top of the hour to play for you.
Laura Loomer, this whole, what you just talked about, this whole series of trying to stop President Trump from getting in office in the summer and fall of 16, then the entire nullification project of the Mueller investigation, Brennan, Comey, all of them leading up to also things like the perfect phone call, the impeachment, the election maybe a 2020 J6, all of it.
They're talking now.
They may appoint, they're working behind the scenes to see if it's appropriate to appoint a special counsel on that.
Your thoughts, since many of the scalps that you're going after are people that were associated with some of those efforts, ma'am.
Look, it's absolutely necessary.
This was a campaign promise.
So absolutely they have to do this.
President Trump said that they were going to get accountability and he promised as part of his Agenda 47 to go after weaponized government and to crack down on the weaponization of the intel agency.
So naturally, in order to fulfill that campaign promise, you have to appoint a special counsel to investigate these people because there's a lot of people that need to go to jail.
We can't just keep talking about it.
People need to start going to jail.
We need to take the handcuffs out and start dragging people to jail.
We need to start having conversations about military tribunals and charging people for treason with the appropriate punishment for treason.
So we have laws in this country for a reason.
And some of these people, Steve, I'm sure you would agree with me, are guilty of committing treason.
There's no doubt.
I think we have to have a formal process to adjudicate.
Do you also think that that special counsel should take on this situation with the Epstein material to make sure it's all handled appropriately?
Because there's all this discussion about what you can release, what you can't release.
Or do you think a separate special counsel should be appointed for that?
I mean, the weaponization of the intel agencies and the weaponization of government against President Trump is so big in its own that I think that it should be a separate special counsel just for the sake of, you know, keeping everything separate.
Look, this is dragging on.
And President Trump, when he said it was a hoax, he's not saying that this whole situation is a hoax.
Obviously, it's not a hoax because, well, Ghelane Maxwell is currently sitting in a prison cell for 20 years in Florida for her activities with Jeffrey Epstein, who is a convicted child sex predator.
What President Trump meant when he said that this was a hoax is that it's starting to consume the presidency.
Every single day during the first term, it was Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
Stormy Daniels, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
We don't need every single day the media to ignore all of the amazing things that President Trump is doing.
You have yesterday cracking down on fentanyl, the lowest numbers of illegal alien crossings into our country in a decade.
So many things, all these great trade deals, you name it.
Every single day, President Trump is winning on behalf of the American people to make America great again.
So appoint a special counsel and let's move on.
I don't want to talk about Epstein every single day.
I want to talk about other things and have a special counsel investigate this.
And also, Pam Blondie should apologize for lying to the American people.
I think an apology would go a long way.
Clearly, she got so obsessed and so in love with seeing herself on Fox News, loving all the media attention that she said things that were clearly not true.
So she needs to apologize for lying or for getting ahead of herself and misspeaking.
Whether she wants to say she lied or she wants to say she misspoke, I don't care.
She needs to apologize because she has created an embarrassment and also a PR crisis for the president of the United States.
And now people are talking about how they're not going to support the president and they're not going to show up to vote in the midterms.
Totally insane.
We're not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
We have 3.5 years left.
Donald Trump is great.
He's fulfilling all of his campaign promises.
And look, I wanted Pam Blondie fired.
I did.
I said it on day one, but he's not firing her.
So let's move on, appoint a special counsel, and please let's talk about other things.
So we don't have to say Speaker Hakeem Jeffries next November.
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You are on fire, ma'am.
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Laura, thank you very much for coming on.
Appreciate you.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Appreciate it.
We'll get the Senate thing at the top of the hour.
I want to get Rachel Bovart.
Rachel, you wrote an amazing piece for the Federalists.
With everything that's going on, now it's coming to the forefront of this vast criminal conspiracy.
They're looking for a special counsel to get the whole thing and make sure Justice Department's overwhelmed, doesn't have to spend time on it.
But you wrote a piece and saying, hey, folks, we may have one of the biggest scandals in the history of this republic.
It's definitely the biggest scandal of the 21st century, according to you, on really a coup by his own staff on Biden, on the Autopen.
Can you walk us through why people respect your opinion very highly?
Why is Rachel Bovart saying this is one of the most important things before us, ma'am?
Well, you had, you know, under the guise of an elected presidency, a, I want to say criminal syndicate almost running the White House to the extent that they were abusing the pardon authority of the president of the United States.
It is unclear, even by Joe Biden's own admission, if he knew about any of the pardons that he was signing, the thousands of pardons he issued outside of his son, Hunter Biden, which he told the New York Times, yes, I approved that particular pardon.
It is unclear if he had any idea or was even mentally competent enough to know that the staff were acting on his behalf.
And the more that comes out about this, the more it's clear that it was a cadre of staff, a syndicate of staff that were making these decisions.
And that is, I mean, it goes to the point of a democratic republic.
We elect a person, we expect that person to be making these decisions of consequence, to be using the authority vested in him by the Constitution, not outsourcing issues of this magnitude to this group of staff.
And it calls into question a host of decisions that were made by this president throughout the presidency.
Who was actually calling the shots?
Hang on.
I want to hold you through the top of the hour.
This is quite important.
We used to argue this during the time, like who's actually governing us and what decisions are being made, particularly around national security and being commander-in-chief.
Rachel Bovard's with us.
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