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July 12, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4628: Live From SAS Tampa Day 2 Cont.
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jack posobiec
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steve bannon
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ben bergquam
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doug jones
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mina kim
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scott pomeroy
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jake tapper
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jayne zirkle
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mehek cooke
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mike lindell
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mike murphy
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tucker carlson
00:39
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
Here's how I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bam.
Welcome back.
steve bannon
Saturday, no Saturday, our Saturday show, particularly on the road, or our favorite.
12 July, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
Scott Pomeroy, an entrepreneur, another entrepreneur in the age of Trump, CEO of XTI, the aircraft company.
We're going to get to this in a second.
Tomorrow, Jack, it's tomorrow, right?
Is the one-year anniversary.
What's tomorrow, the one-year anniversary of?
What is it?
The assassination attempt, right, Butler?
Have we gotten to the bottom of that?
jack posobiec
Not only have we not gotten to that, but the widow of Corey Comperatore has not gotten answers as to why her husband did not come home with her and her two beautiful daughters from that rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
steve bannon
Don't we need answers to that?
I mean, that should be so basic.
Also, they made a big deal, Jack, about the suspension of six Secret Service agents, but the suspension is like 10 days to like a month.
I mean, what is going on here?
Who's running this investigation?
Is this another hapless thing out of the House of Representatives?
Who's overseeing this thing?
jack posobiec
Look, we don't need to see suspensions.
We need to see prosecutions.
We need to see prosecutions that went down for the people who allowed Thomas Matthew Crooks to climb the.
And the Washington Post, by the way, of all places, the Washington Post, because they finally have one of the Butler SWAT team members who's speaking out.
This is the man who fired the ninth shot, by the way.
Remember the FBI told you that they said none of the local police officers fired a shot.
They said none of them did.
None of them happened.
Never happened, never happened.
And now all of a sudden a guy comes up and says, I was the one who fired the shot that hit the butt stock of Thomas Matthew Crooks rifle.
But we're told, listen to this, listen to this.
Thomas Matthew Crooks, this is a Washington Post, go read it.
Thomas Matthew Crookes was seen with three other individuals hours before he climbed to the top of the AGR building in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Who were those three individuals?
Who had that report?
Who had access to that?
Did he have spotters in that crowd?
Did he have people helping him up?
Look, we got XTI right here.
How come his drone worked and the Secret Service's drone didn't work?
We need answers on all of it.
steve bannon
Hold it, hold it, hang on for a second.
Hang on a second.
They have not gotten to the bottom.
Has any of that stuff been publicly exposed?
Who's in charge of the investigation and why are we not?
Because now they're blaming Iran and all these separate people.
How come we have not gotten to the bottom of the assassination attempt on a guy basically had won the second term already who was going to win the presidency?
Why have we not heard that?
This is as bad as Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald.
jack posobiec
We need to see all the documents out on that.
And by the way, we also need to see, and we're going to see this now.
I understand there's a court trial coming up on this.
Ryan Wesley Routh, who tried to take out, by the way, not just Donald Trump down there at the West Palm Trump International, but who was Trump playing golf with?
Steve Witkoff.
So Trump was playing golf with Steve Witkoff, and Ryan Wesley Routh, a Ukrainian foreign fighter, comes back from Ukraine, shows up with an SKS rifle that apparently they're saying a wife bought it for him.
Now she's been indicted and all the rest.
Where are any of the answers on all that?
steve bannon
Amazing.
Scott, tell us about XTI.
Why is it important for the Trump movement?
Why is it important as an entrepreneur here in the United States?
scott pomeroy
Well, Steve, we represent that new wave of innovative entrepreneurs in the entire aerospace sector.
I'm going to hypothesize that in the next five to 10 years, you're going to see a massive tectonic plate shift in how aircraft rolls out and how people travel.
steve bannon
What do you mean by that?
That's going to be smaller.
You're going to have these taxis flying around?
What do you got?
The air traffic controllers can't handle what they got.
How are you guys going to have a million taxis?
Are these going to be like the automatic cars that are driving around with no drivers?
scott pomeroy
Some of them will be autonomous, but others will be piloted.
And this is actually an opportunity to bring alleviation to the country.
steve bannon
How many of you are going to sign up for an autonomous air taxi?
Can I have a show of hands?
I love this.
I love the cutting edge.
You guys would actually get into an autonomous plane?
Okay, man.
I love this.
I love the young generation.
We had a customer right there.
Hold it.
You're going to have like the Uber and Elon, these things out there.
You're going to have pilotless planes and also air taxis with pilots in them all over.
scott pomeroy
Like big drugs.
The key here is capable of being autonomous.
We do think adoption is going to take some time, but ours will be piloted.
Our aircraft is actually a fixed-wing airplane that can take off and land vertically up to 1,000 miles of range.
So unlike some of the air taxis, we're an intercity solution, not an intracity solution.
So we add range and speed and altitude that the...
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
steve bannon
Wow.
scott pomeroy
You could even get into the plane in Washington, D.C. and fly to New York.
steve bannon
Oh, so you're going to be between the cities, not just inside the city.
scott pomeroy
That's correct.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
scott pomeroy
That's our solution.
steve bannon
Yes.
scott pomeroy
Which puts us unique amongst all of the different components that are out there because of the range.
steve bannon
Okay.
scott pomeroy
Nobody's got the kind of range in this vertical takeoff and landing space.
steve bannon
What's the marine plane that does the vertical?
jack posobiec
The Osprey?
steve bannon
Yeah, Osprey.
You're going to be like the Osprey?
scott pomeroy
Like the Osprey, but cheaper, more modern, more technical.
steve bannon
More Dependable?
scott pomeroy
More dependable.
steve bannon
The Osprey's had some problems, right?
scott pomeroy
A couple three issues just a little bit.
steve bannon
So, hold on, how do you overcome the Osprey situation?
scott pomeroy
So, the Osprey, one of the things you have to recognize is the Osprey is a 30-year-old plus technology, and it's been around for a long time.
It's a tilt rotor aircraft, and unlike that, our vertical takeoff and landing is achieved through ducted fans, rotors, three of them.
The name of the aircraft is the Tri-Fan 600, which justifies the three fans, or the three fans justifies the three.
steve bannon
When's this going to come off the assembly line?
You're in production right now?
scott pomeroy
No, we will fly our first demonstrator within the next two years.
steve bannon
Okay.
How do people go find more information?
scott pomeroy
We are a publicly traded company.
XTIA is our symbol that we trade under.
steve bannon
Wow.
So you publicly trade.
Once again, where do people go?
They get all the information there?
scott pomeroy
XTIA, or you can find us at XTIAircraft.com.
steve bannon
I want you to sign this guy up right here.
We have your first customer.
Right?
You'll get on, you'll fly, you'll do it.
unidentified
About how you program them.
So for crashing, is there an ethics programming for it?
Like if you are in a situation where it's going direct, does it decide, do I run into 10 people or do I run into one person that's a kid?
Is there ethics programmed into the AI that determine value or is it just go for the least likely pain possible?
scott pomeroy
Yeah, I mean, that's an interesting question.
I've never had that posed before, but we are certified under traditional FAA standards for multiple redundancies with the aircraft.
And so whether it's engines, we're at, unlike some of these EV tolls that are all electric, we're an internal combustion engine, so an ICE-driven aircraft.
So we've got twin turbo engines and potential auto-rotate on the aircraft.
You've got wings, so you've got glide capability.
You've also got a go-home button that will take you to the aircraft.
steve bannon
You're the guy in philosophy class.
Everybody's just sitting there trying to get a grade, and you ask a tough question, and then the professor gets interested, and they don't let you out early, and everybody blames you because of the tough question.
unidentified
Well, I'm writing a paper about AI in cars right now.
Whoa!
steve bannon
Hang on, I'm going to come back to you on AI in a second.
What's your social media?
scott pomeroy
Where do they go?
www.xdiaircraft.com.
steve bannon
Okay, these are the entrepreneurs who got it back.
We got Warpath Coffee.
We got Sacred Human Health.
We're always trying to promote entrepreneurs.
Let's give it up for Scott.
scott pomeroy
Thank you.
steve bannon
Okay, what's your paper?
We're going to introduce you to Joe Allen.
You're like a Joe Allen type.
You look like a redneck, but you're actually smart.
unidentified
Thanks.
So I'm writing a paper about AI in cars and how there's a lot of AI systems right now that if a box blows in front of your car, it slams on the brakes and it can't cause a collision.
And so there's debate on how they should program them to avoid are you guys.
steve bannon
Is there any, hey, how you doing, hon, right there?
The Pesobic, the smart Pesobics here.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
steve bannon
You're the best.
Hold it.
Is anybody here, is there a big demand for driverless autos?
Is that a huge thing?
Or driverless trucks?
Isn't this just a just a thing?
I mean, have the truck drivers done a great job?
Taxi drivers, I mean, the Uber guys, what is this demand?
What is this demand for driverless cars?
Is it going to take away millions of jobs?
unidentified
I think there's a demand for it, though.
I really do.
steve bannon
You think it's a demand?
unidentified
Well, for the younger generation, and myself included, and I'm not exactly young, well, I look at What's your beef?
steve bannon
Okay, younger generation, what is your beef with a driver?
unidentified
Because what will happen is it's all about convenience.
It's about having free hands, free minds to do what we want.
steve bannon
I mean, hang on.
I'm saying not to buy a car that you don't have to drive.
I'm saying something different.
I'm saying trucks are taxis that don't have drivers.
What's the beef you have?
Why is there demand?
There's not demand.
This is another thing technology, these technologists try to drive.
Why would you want a driverless taxi?
Why would you want a driverless truck?
unidentified
I think there's an inevitability to it, regardless of how you feel about it, because there is a profit-driven motive that all world economies will get behind.
steve bannon
Ah, now we're getting somewhere.
No, because, okay, write this down with your number two purncil.
They want to cut out labor costs.
They don't want everybody, they want you to then depend on the government.
They're going to give you $15,000 a year and give you constant streaming on Netflix.
They're going to dumb you down.
The biggest problem with AI is the apathy of the people.
They just don't have all the information's given to you, right?
Everything's done.
unidentified
I agree with that.
I agree with what you're saying.
That's all true.
steve bannon
Did I flip you already?
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
Stand your ground, man.
Come on, dude.
jack posobiec
Let me ask.
Let me jump in here.
Let me jump in here because, like, we moved to automation, right?
And we talked to the farm workers and all the rest.
Automation is not just cars.
It's going everywhere.
So if we have a situation here where we come in with the farms are going automated, the cars are going automated.
steve bannon
This is a perfect tee-up.
jack posobiec
What happens to the millions and millions that are here when all of a sudden their jobs are gone?
unidentified
Hang on.
steve bannon
You stay right there.
Did you guys see Tucker on Amnesty last night?
Let's play Tucker Carlson.
Let's play Tucker Carlson.
tucker carlson
What do I think about Amnesty for Farm Workers?
I think it's the most grotesque thing I've ever heard.
Are you joking?
Amnesty for farm workers?
We have like 60 million illegal aliens in the country.
The country bears no resemblance to the country I grew up in, and it's not better, it's worse.
So I'm not going to sit for another lecture from anybody telling me we need to import more people to write code or pick grapes or any other task.
Period.
It hasn't worked.
The country hasn't gotten richer.
It hasn't become more unified.
Those words should burn on the tongue of anyone who utters them.
How dare you talk like that?
Amnesty.
unidentified
How about deportation?
tucker carlson
What about that?
steve bannon
Wow.
Wow.
He threw down.
Your thoughts on Tucker and Amnesty.
jack posobiec
I think Amnesty is a disgusting word.
I think the only word as bad as Amnesty is the word Hillary, okay?
So what I'm talking about here, and this is a threat that I've seen coming for a long time, that if we switch over to automation, I do agree that a lot of it's coming.
Those 10 to millions, 60 million Tucker says, that's going to lead to a Marxist revolution.
Those are going to be the insurrectionaries.
And by the way, in LA, what were they setting on fire?
The driverless taxis, because that's their competition.
steve bannon
Hang on.
If we had this program they just announced yesterday potentially in place, you would have never had the raid at the marijuana farm that saw the little kids working as slave labor.
The reason they did it is they went out there to get these illegal aliens that are working as slaves and as serfs for the marijuana area.
jack posobiec
And Newsome says, hey, you can't, hey, careful.
There's kids in there.
steve bannon
So wait a minute.
jack posobiec
Slave labor.
How about this?
How about God's children are not for sale?
How about that?
steve bannon
How many support the amnesty program that was announced yesterday?
Raise your hand.
How many say mass deportations now, amnesty never?
Unbelievable.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Matt.
steve bannon
Okay, let's give a big hand for Mina Kimbs joins us right now.
Fighting Mina Kim, the rooftop Koreans.
Jane, amnesty surrogate.
President Trump, what do we got?
jayne zirkle
Yes, I'm joined by Mahek, who's one of President Trump's surrogates focusing on the border crisis.
unidentified
Tell us about it and your reactions to Tucker Carlson's comments.
mehek cooke
Look, I think Tucker's right.
The fact that people are even saying amnesty is shocking to me today.
We don't believe in slave labor.
That border is going to be shut down.
It was shut down in five days under President Trump.
And make no mistake, Tom Homan has said no amnesty.
He has said that loud and clear.
So when people continue to use the word amnesty, they're diluting the issue of legal immigrants like my family and so many other Americans.
And there is a visa program.
If you're a temporary worker, President Trump needs to revamp that.
That is allowed.
That is the illegal migration.
steve bannon
I think there are 350,000 already here on the agriculture worker.
You're saying that should just be extended.
But I think when people talk about amnesty, it's the fact they're saying they're going to stop raids.
They're going to stop raids, agricultural raids like you saw in the marijuana fields.
mehek cooke
We can't do that.
Look, there were children found.
They're illegals.
We don't know who they are.
We don't know their backgrounds.
We don't know if they're committing more crimes.
We don't know if they're pedophiles.
We don't know if they're rapists.
We cannot allow illegals and our children to be trafficked in the United States of America.
We have to continue the raids.
steve bannon
Is this the policy?
Is this what we voted for right there?
unidentified
Yes.
mehek cooke
100%.
steve bannon
Okay.
Where do people, what's your social media?
Where do people get to you?
mehek cooke
Mehek Cook, at Mehek Cook, and I will constantly say this.
At Mahack Cook.
steve bannon
Okay.
unidentified
Cool.
steve bannon
Everybody got that?
unidentified
Good.
steve bannon
Let's grace if we can put it up on the thing.
Thank you so much.
Ben Berkwan, what do you got?
ben bergquam
By the way, Steve, it wasn't just the 10 kids that were being trafficked.
They had 300.
They got 300 illegals in those raids.
And these are the donors to Gavin Newsome.
These organizations, these companies, remember that.
All of these companies hiring illegal aliens are the donors to these Democrats that need to be informed.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
Why then would we stop?
Because you got big ag and you got the big Democratic donors.
Why would we stop the raids?
ben bergquam
We absolutely should not.
Wait, we have more raids.
jack posobiec
Are you trying to tell me right now that there are corporate interests in the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that are supporting illegal aliens because they're exploiting the slave labor?
Look, I don't care if you got an R next to your name or a D next to your name.
If you're involved in this process, you belong behind bars.
ben bergquam
That's it.
steve bannon
Amen.
unidentified
All right.
ben bergquam
And it's not going to change until that happens.
We've got to arrest all and deport all the illegals, but we've got to arrest the people that are employing them.
steve bannon
This is my point.
Why are we not doing more company raids?
Why are more CEOs being perped down?
ben bergquam
Restaurants, basically every sector, this lie that they only do the work that Americans won't do, they do everything, and every business that hires them needs to be arrested as well.
jack posobiec
Look at that black hawk.
Look at that black hawk down there on the raid.
More black hawks.
ben bergquam
That's right.
jack posobiec
More drones.
More raids.
Raid the corporate offices.
Raid the C-suite.
steve bannon
And by the way, what'd they do?
They start firing on the ultimately started.
unidentified
That's right.
jack posobiec
They start shooting at him.
ben bergquam
Why?
jack posobiec
Because the Democrats are bringing in their shock troops of Antiva to go and guard all these things.
They know exactly what they're doing if Julio Rojas was here.
But they have it laid all out.
ben bergquam
This goes back to, and I want to grab some of these guys, Pam Bondi, why are we not doing these things?
Why do we allow January 6th, but we're not making those arrests?
What do you guys think about it?
unidentified
I think it's absurd.
I think Pam Bondi absolutely needs to do much more.
But more to the point, I believe she just needs to resign.
I think we need to try and put somebody else in charge of the Justice Department, somebody with respect to the business.
steve bannon
Why has the MAGA movement, because I know Pam, she's a good person, why has the MAGA movement flipped so hard in the last 48 hours on Pam, sir?
unidentified
Specifically, Steve, it's because of the fact that both Dan Bongino and Cash Patel have both threatened to resign if she doesn't resign.
steve bannon
Apparently, although there are conflicting stories now, correct, about Bongino and Cash, do they really mean that?
You know, John Solomon's reporting that Cash may not be doing it.
ben bergquam
No, go ahead.
steve bannon
Go ahead.
ben bergquam
I've got his comment.
unidentified
But I'll bark, no bite, Bondi.
It really is.
She's flipping out.
We were expecting a lot more to come through here, and we don't have it.
And I think that's what everybody's pissed off about is we're not seeing action happen and we're not seeing anybody getting brought up.
So that's what needs to happen, and that's the sad part about it.
We want to see action.
jack posobiec
What this people, what we voted for, and when I went to those rallies and we all saw President Trump on those stages, he didn't just talk about the DOJ as the department of just us.
This was the department of do justice.
That's what we wanted.
So much of the, think of this, just go back, right?
A year ago today, a year ago today, Steve Bannon's behind bars.
Donald Trump's about to go on stage to be shot at in Butler, Pennsylvania.
That's one year tomorrow.
And now, all of the lawfare that was being done to him, all the crimes, all the lies, dragging him through court, that lawfare is the reason he won more than anything else.
The lawfare of Bannon, Navarro, the rest of it, that was the reason he won.
Why?
Because we said we want a single-tier system of justice in this country.
Doesn't matter if there's an R or a D, if you're caught doing something wrong, you belong behind bars and justice will be done.
steve bannon
Let me tell you where this is going.
Mina Kim, remember all the effort we put into South Korea, right?
All the effort we put into South Korea.
They went to arrest President Yoon like we said they were.
This is the way the deep state works country by country.
Bolsonaro is in Brazil on trial for his life because as soon as they find him guilty, they'll put him in a prison in Brazil.
They'll assassinate him.
They just raided the offices of Front Nationale in France yesterday.
President Yoon, they put out an arrest warrant for Yoon.
30 days or 45 days after they won, they're going to put Yoon back in prison.
Why?
Contesting a stolen election.
Why are they doing it with Bolsonaro contesting a stolen election?
In 2028, when they steal this, because they're going to steal it, you're going to see a bunch of people going back to prison, and you guys are going to be included unless we lance the boil today.
Mina, tell us what's going on in South Korea, because we've warned everybody this was going to happen, and now it has happened.
mina kim
First of all, I'm Korean MAGA.
Go MAGA and Frida.
Whoa!
Korea just elected a left-leaning socialist president, and they just impeached a conservative president who would defend our relationship with America.
And right now, Korea is actually leaning towards more favorable policies for China.
And that's why I'm trying to erect a movement called Build Up Korea for a grassroots freedom movement to bring Charlie Kirk and Steve Bennon to Korea and be a big daddy for our Korean people.
steve bannon
Paula, I'm volunteering Pesobic, too, because you're not.
jack posobiec
And I want to say, go back to history, because there was a time in history when Korea was a protectorate of the Chinese Empire, was a protectorate of the Song dynasty, of the Ming dynasty.
And that's what the CCP is trying to do again, to take the entire Korean peninsula and turn them back into a protectorate of Beijing.
mina kim
Exactly.
And I want to tell you guys this.
Korea has a very special history.
Our founding father, which was President Ri, read the Declaration of Independence of America in jail.
And he learned how to speak English and read English from American missionaries.
And that's how he got to form and establish the country, Republic of Korea.
And we have adopted your constitution, your freedom, and your biblical values to create Korea.
unidentified
So that's why we need America and your help people for freedom for Korea.
Yes!
USA!
steve bannon
What do our Korean brothers and sisters need?
You're trying to start the MAGA movement there.
You're going to have 5,000 people, young Koreans, almost like a turning point in Korea.
What do you guys need as far as our backup, our assistance to make sure we've got to take Korea back?
Korea is a knife in the heart of Japan and Taiwan, all of it.
It's central.
We've got to take Korea back, particularly when over half the country is conservative, right?
mina kim
Yes, that's correct.
A lot of our people are conservatives, and a lot of our people actually love America, although they are brainwashed by CNN and New York Times.
And our mainstream media copies directly off of the American mainstream media, and that's the problem.
What you can do to help us is to come to Korea, and Koreans love American burgers.
You know, you guys love Korean drama and K-pops, right?
Koreans love American burgers that they would line up for three hours in front of five guys in Texas Roadhouse that opened up in 60.
So please, Steve, come back, come to Korea and help us.
And maybe Jack Pussy should help you.
jack posobiec
Look, when I was in the Navy, when I was 7th Fleet, I went, you know what, we ran through Busan so many times.
And Steve, I don't know if we can tell any of those stories about Texas Street down in Busan.
But down on Texas Street is where it all happens down in Busan, South Korea.
But Mina, I just have to say to you, oh my, thank you.
mina kim
Kam Sahamida.
It means so much to us.
steve bannon
Nina, tell people right now, where can they go get your show here?
Because you're on fire.
You're on YouTube.
You're a fighter.
This is what the future is.
These are people who are fighting now.
They're not looking to fight.
They're in the fight right now.
Where do people go to get all your content?
mina kim
Yes, thank you.
You can get my podcast on YouTube.
It's called MKITV.
And you can also see me on X at Real Minakim, like real Donald Trump.
And you can also see me here.
See you at his war room.
We're going to have to work in the war room a lot.
steve bannon
And September 4th and 5th is going to be the...
5th and 6th.
mina kim
We are bringing Charlie Kirk, Steve Bennon.
unidentified
Who thinks Steve Bennon should come to Korea in person?
mina kim
Or Jack?
steve bannon
One of the few countries let me in.
Let's give it up for Mina Kim.
mina kim
Thank you.
Freedom, USA.
unidentified
USA.
Fabious.
jack posobiec
Mina Kim.
I remember down Texas Street in Busan be dodging Shore Patrol going club to club down there.
steve bannon
I had to stand shore patrol as a young Ensign in JG.
jack posobiec
Oh, no, I was the one slipping behind your back.
steve bannon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Before Jack's, before more of the naval intelligence aspect of it.
Ben, we got 30 seconds.
Let's get somebody in.
ben bergquam
All right, I got this young man here.
unidentified
He's actually, so, real quick, Steve, big fan of your show.
Just want to ask: in 2019, you did an interview with Jeffrey Epstein for a documentary we're making called Monsters.
That interview never came out.
Would you be willing to release that footage?
And why have you been doing it?
steve bannon
Tell you what, we're going to release the film, the five-part series, next year, early next year.
You're going to see it.
And you know, by the way, by the way, the entire thing is how the elites and the intelligence services are inextricably linked with, it's what Tucker said last night.
You're going to have to name names and you're going to have to understand how the elites in the world, but also the intelligence services, are inextricably linked in F-9 story.
That's the key.
Awesome.
Short commercial break.
We'll be back up.
Who wants a hat?
unidentified
Who wants a hat?
Fongino were to leave.
You think a more normal person would replace him?
mike murphy
Well, you know, you have to grade on a curve here.
So we might go from five-star crazy to three-star, and I guess you declare victory on that.
But no, I don't think they're going to find Elliott Ness.
They will comb MAGA Noise World for somebody else.
But that's the reality we're in.
The bottom line is he's massively unqualified.
He's a nut.
And now he's having a nut reaction.
And maybe he's thinking, you know, I got to get back into the radio conspiracy podcasting world and make some money.
And I'm not going to give up the milk cow of the Epstein, you know, chariots of the gods Eric von Donkin, Lost City of Atlantis, crazy stuff, because it pays well.
I mean, I don't know the guy.
I don't know what he's thinking, but they leaked this.
I think he's looking for an exit strategy for whatever reason, and I'm happy he found one.
doug jones
I also think that we're dealing with people that have the temperament of a four-year-old, and they want their way.
They want it now.
They don't want to do anything else, and it's a real problem.
They just will pitch a fit.
That shows you how unqualified that Bongino is, that I think Patel is, because even today, there's reports out today of the fact that the FBI is giving lie detector tests to agents to make sure that they are loyal to the president and will do his bidding.
This is one of the premier law enforcement agencies of the world that is now becoming a laughingstock because of who is running the show and how they have chilled any dissent.
And so, you know, look, I think that whatever happens, they are fueling conspiracy theories on both the left and the right.
Trust me, I can see the theories coming out now about this from the left that, oh my God, the reason that they're not doing it, they're deep six and all of this, because Donald Trump's in the middle of all this.
And we do have the pictures, by the way, to show that he was at least friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
So, you know, look, this is just more unqualified chaos from unqualified members of an administration.
All right.
unidentified
Don't you love it?
steve bannon
Don't you love it when we start with those cold opens?
Don't you love MSNBC?
Make you guys smarter.
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unidentified
Yes.
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steve bannon
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That's right already.
Okay.
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Jane Zerka, what do you got for us?
jayne zirkle
Tell me the question you asked Tucker Carlson.
unidentified
So, hi, everybody.
I'm Jack.
I actually was on the Ask Tucker about the amnesty.
For reference, I was teeing him up.
I am against amnesty.
But my question was, Tucker, what do you think about amnesty for the illegal immigrant farm workers?
And my thought was, I want to know who's putting this in Donald Trump's ear.
I saw Trump speak recently at, I think, the Iowa State Fair.
He was floating it out there.
I didn't vote for that.
steve bannon
I wonder when President Trump goes, he'll do that.
He'll run up to the flagpole and see if he wants to take a temperature.
In the Iowa State Fair, was that absolutely the biggest buzzkill you've ever seen?
unidentified
It was awesome.
It was amazing.
I just want to know who's putting that in his ear around him.
And it doesn't feel like the majority of us think that way.
I don't know if I'm in the minority.
steve bannon
No amnesty?
No.
Okay.
If you were with the president today and had the opportunity, Ed Bedminster, to put something in his ear, right?
What would you tell him?
unidentified
I would ask him that if for the people that are around you telling you that, we didn't vote for that.
Number one, if there is any kind of whatever you want to call amnesty, why not legally deport, self-deport yourself, have some kind of better way back to citizenship.
But this idea that if I don't pay my taxes, I go to jail.
Why am I not judged by the same standard of law that these people that broke our law entered our country illegally?
Why am I treated different?
I didn't vote for that.
I want the laws applied fairly.
That's our current law.
That's what I want.
steve bannon
Listen, I love you, Trump.
Do you got social media anywhere people can follow you?
unidentified
No, I'm just a random guy.
Don't worry about me.
steve bannon
Okay, just a random.
Did you actually ask the question last year?
unidentified
Yeah, I was the one that...
He starts pointing out the crowd, just wants questions.
I think they're so stupid on the mic, but he points at me and I just shout out, Tucker!
And I talked with him for a second, but that was awesome.
But I love what you do, Steve.
And I like you too, Jack, but I'm a Jack too.
steve bannon
Okay, great.
Let's get some other over there.
jayne zirkle
What's your message about the transparency issue we're having now?
steve bannon
If we don't bring accountability and prosecute everyone from Russia Gate, COVID, January 6th, everything, Epstein, everything you like the 10-year, what Solomon said yesterday, that a prosecutor is going to be announced this week that's going to start the beginning with Crossfire Hurricane in the summer of 2016 and go all the way through everything.
You like that idea?
Because it's a rolling coup.
Okay.
It's a rolling coup.
unidentified
They're never going to stop going after Trump, and when he's out of the way, they're going to come after us.
steve bannon
Do you believe if you were to tell the president and announce that special prosecutor that the entire Epstein situation should also be put with that special prosecutor?
Absolutely.
Because the same deep state.
unidentified
The same people that are behind that are also behind, probably trying to kill him, probably, in all likelihood.
steve bannon
Ben Berquam, you got anything for me over there?
ben bergquam
Let me get over here.
steve bannon
Hang on.
ben bergquam
Speaking about action, this gentleman actually has an organization.
Tell me about it.
unidentified
Now, we're Florida Citizens Alliance, Steve, and we fight to get rid of the pornography in our schools.
We have 250 people.
steve bannon
There's pornography in schools.
unidentified
Oh, really?
And the grooming and the sex trafficking.
We have 250.
steve bannon
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Governor Santa's doing a good job down here.
I thought the parents, this is the railhead of the parents' rights movement.
All that's gone, isn't it?
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
Why not?
unidentified
Absolutely not.
steve bannon
Why not?
unidentified
Because the school districts are ignoring.
There's only one or two counties that have taken this out.
The vast majority of the schools are.
ben bergquam
Hang on, hang on.
unidentified
We're ignoring.
steve bannon
With the parents' rights movement, Governor Santis, President Trump, this was central to our victory.
Are you telling me right here in the great state of Florida, which is one of the most Texas and Florida, the railhead of the MAGA movement, are you telling me in all the school districts of this great state that only two districts or two counties have actually gotten all the pornography out of the schools?
unidentified
Actually, it's three, but we have 67 counties, and the vast majority...
Hillsboro?
Hillsborough.
steve bannon
Amen.
unidentified
Because they were demanded by the Department of Education and our new AG.
Collier County and Indian River County.
Those are the three.
We have 250,000 people in our active database.
Based on your urging us to action, we're going to go out this afternoon urging them to reach out to President Trump and demand transparency on the thing.
steve bannon
So hang on for a second.
You're going to go for that, right, for the Epstein, all 250,000.
But tell people how we can aid your cause.
I think, are you guys shocked they haven't gotten the porn out of the schools in Florida?
Look, if we can't get it out of the schools in Texas and Florida, we might as well give it up, right?
If you can't get it out of this great state with a good job, you know, Governor Sanders, I think, done a good job as governor.
If you can't get it out of this state, and particularly how big the parents' rights movements are, it's finished everywhere else.
So how do we do that?
unidentified
Well, our website is goflca.org.
We urge people to reach out.
Again, we have 250,000.
We get very involved in the legislative.
steve bannon
Are those 250,000 all Floridians?
unidentified
They're all Floridians.
Only Floridians, two-thirds of them are parents with kids under 17 in the school system.
steve bannon
Wow.
What is holding this up?
The individual school districts, the school systems?
unidentified
It's in the vast majority, it's the rogue school districts refusing to pull this stuff out.
steve bannon
That's the fight you got right there.
What's your social media?
Where do they go?
unidentified
Our website is goflca.org.
Perfect.
Great.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Jane Zerker, what do you got?
jayne zirkle
We have a young school choice activist.
What's your name?
unidentified
My name is Gregory Lykov.
I'm currently the youngest nationally sickened columnist in the world.
I write for Newsmax, and I am a big advocate for school choice.
Just to tell you a little bit of a personal story, for 16 years of my life, I had undiagnosed ADHD, and I was in a public school system.
Only last year, I finally got diagnosed when I read my first book.
Then I started writing.
I started listening to your show, and I became a youngest nationally syndicated columnist.
But we need school choice in like New York and all the other liberal states out there.
Public schools are indoctrinating our children.
They are hurting us.
And issues like pornography in schools is just one of the thousands of issues that public schools are.
steve bannon
Be specific.
How are they indoctrinating our young?
You see it as a student.
How do they do it?
unidentified
Whether they're pronouns all around the schools, whether it's DEI, CRT, and all of the other liberal agendas, we are being pushed.
Not only that, but we are doing that.
steve bannon
But hang on.
The Department of Education did away with that.
I thought it was all done.
It's all done.
unidentified
Yeah, it is never all done until you go to the exact school systems.
Look at what New York City is facing right now.
When Mandani, who is a very anti-school choice advocate, he is currently closing down all the school choice programs.
steve bannon
You should understand something.
This situation in New York is driven by the schools and principally the private schools from kindergarten on.
This is how they get these troops.
This is why DSA and the Workers' People's Party, Working Families Party, control the ground game in all New York.
And it isn't possible unless one or two guys drop out of the race.
This guy's going to be mayor of New York, driven by the school system, right?
unidentified
That is 100% true.
And not only that, when we have half of the school districts facing chronic absenteeism in New York, then it poses a big, big issue.
Our students should be attending school.
They shouldn't be skipping school.
And definitely they shouldn't be failing standardized tests.
steve bannon
Yeah, okay, hang on for a second.
Make sure we get his contact information.
12% of the working poor in Chicago, only 12% are literate.
This is what the public school system has done.
Only 12% are literate, right?
You'll never be able to function in a sophisticated world.
Hey, hey, Ben Berquam.
Ben.
Ben, we're live.
unidentified
We're signing hats.
steve bannon
Are you like a celebrity?
No, hold on.
Hold on, stop, stop, stop.
I'm the talent.
Okay, you're the group.
What is the hell?
I'm going to Ben Berquam.
unidentified
They love the hat.
ben bergquam
Look at these beautiful new hats.
steve bannon
Even Jane Zroker was to the show's over.
ben bergquam
I know.
It's amazing.
steve bannon
But she's another princess, right?
ben bergquam
They all want the flag.
They want the RAV memorabilia.
steve bannon
Okay, they can wait till noon.
Okay, okay.
Let's get this.
ben bergquam
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Tell me your name.
Where are you from?
sherry broro in ana maria island
Sherry Broro from Tampa.
No, from Ana Maria Island.
ben bergquam
And your husband, Navy Vet?
sherry broro in ana maria island
I'm Navy Vet, yes.
ben bergquam
What is it about Real America's voice that you love so much?
And what are you hoping to see over the next days and weeks with President Trump?
sherry broro in ana maria island
Oh, well, I am from Iran.
So from beginning, I started watching C. Bannon and you doing all these things for illegal.
It was amazing.
It's something to watch, something to really, really admire you people for doing something for this great country.
Because this great country needs help right now.
steve bannon
It's terrible.
Why do we need help?
Why does America need help right now?
sherry broro in ana maria island
Because what you see, what's happening all over in the world, because I've been most part of Europe, I was in Venezuela when Chavez came in.
That time, the dollar was four and a half.
And then when they, China, I believe China, because I believe that for years, China was doing this all over in the world and my country in Iran.
So Iran money was seven and a half to the dollar when China took over.
Venezuela was four and a half to a dollar when they took it over.
But look at right now, their money, you can't do nothing.
You can't buy nothing because they'll destroy everything.
And China bought everything in my country.
steve bannon
What part of the Navy were you in, sir?
sherry broro in ana maria island
I was with the CBs, U.S. Navy.
steve bannon
Oh, my man.
Construction battalion right there.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
unidentified
We're going to sign hats in the break.
steve bannon
Ben Berquam, signing autographs, Ben Berquam during the show.
Unbelievable.
unidentified
Short commercial break.
We're back with Jane Zirkle and Ben Berquam in the room in a moment.
USA.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
Thank you.
steve bannon
I want to go back.
unidentified
There we are right there.
steve bannon
That's having.
unidentified
USA.
steve bannon
All right.
Amazing over here.
ben bergquam
We got some rowdy ones over here.
steve bannon
I like it.
We like rowdy.
Finally.
Got some energy.
Okay.
What happened?
You shut down the situation around Kerrville.
unidentified
What happened?
steve bannon
Folks, made it national.
jack posobiec
All this situation down, this horrific President Trump, he goes down.
Kerrville, Texas yesterday.
Horrific loss of life that didn't have to happen if people had actually followed the procedures in place.
I'm getting told now by high-level sources that everybody knew this flood was coming.
Emergency management didn't respond the way they should, get the girls out of there.
And more to the point, this fire chief up in Austin who refused to pre-deploy the rescue swimmers.
His own Austin Fire Association, the union, came out and said, we're going to hold a vote of no confidence.
Ladies and gentlemen, the firefighters of Austin came out.
They voted 93 to 7 that they have no confidence in their fire chief who refused to put out the rescue swimmers that could have saved the lives of those little girls that were down there on that banks of that fire.
So don't tell me, don't tell me that we're making it a race issue because when I see a DEI hire like that who's making those decisions, I'm going to say, you know what?
He's got to go.
steve bannon
Amen.
Jane Zerker, what do you got for us?
jayne zirkle
You have some comments on the Epstein situation.
Tell me about it.
unidentified
Yes, I do.
People need to remember why this matters.
It's not because it's salacious.
That's a straw man.
It is not primarily about justice for the victims or against the powerful and protected, though that's plenty.
What's more important is who was he?
Why was he doing this?
How was this information used to be?
steve bannon
Hold on, but what have been said?
Tucker said last night that that's for vote and you can't talk about that.
Tucker said that this is why Tucker went viral.
unidentified
That's the whole point.
steve bannon
Like you say, that is do you believe that that's a topic that can't be talked about?
Who was Epstein interacting with?
Who gave him the money?
How did he come from nowhere, right?
An unknown school teacher all the way to be interconnected with the most powerful people in the world.
Isn't that remote?
jack posobiec
Are you suggesting that Epstein himself was recruited?
steve bannon
Yes, absolutely.
And by the way, I think he was an intelligence asset.
I know Tucker and some people think he's, and John Solomon said he may knew, he may know some intelligence guys.
I think it's far deeper than that.
And I strongly believe that Epstein was murdered.
Murdered under the, murdered under Bill Barr under Bill Barr's, on Bill Barr's watch.
jack posobiec
Well, let me ask you, Steve, let me ask you that, because you've got a unique perspective on this.
You spent four months in federal correction facility, federal prison.
Do you think it's possible?
Haven't been on the inside, your experience, is it possible?
steve bannon
In MDC where he was was 10 times a more secure lockup.
I was in a prison, in a cell block, in a cell.
It's impossible to do it, right?
Because you've got a bunk mate, you've got everybody there, you've got cameras all over the place.
He was actually in a more secure facility.
And Barr and these guys knew that there'd be threats on his life because they knew basically the intelligence connections he had.
So the heightened thing of him being there and the controversy around this case made it like to the fifth level.
It is virtually impossible for any kind of adult to think that this guy committed suicide that under their watch.
And this is Bill Barr's Justice Department.
This is the same Justice Department that Pam Bondi, in defense of Pam Bondi, remember, we've only probably got 40 people over there in tens of thousands.
We don't control the deep state.
We don't control the Pentagon.
We don't control the CIA.
We don't control the Federal Reserve.
We do not control the Justice Department.
We don't control the FBI.
You've only got a handful of people there.
And this is why the Epstein thing is so important.
And what Tucker said last night was very brave because no one's ever gone out there and said it as bluntly as he said, said, there can be no topic that's verbodent for the American people to discuss and get information on.
That's what's happened in the past.
You agree with that?
Ben Berquam, let's hit me quick.
unidentified
Hi, this is going back to deportation.
I think there's a nuance level that no one's really talking about yet, which is most of us.
steve bannon
Baby, baby, you're in the war room.
We don't do nuance, but go ahead, take your shot.
Hold it.
She's bringing nuance to a turning point live thing.
But go ahead.
We like your bravery.
jack posobiec
Live fire here.
steve bannon
Live fire.
unidentified
A lot of us agree that we want the mass deportation, but beyond that, no one's really talking about the amount of people who are here on green cards and visas, and they're overstaying these.
And, you know, our governments that are issuing massive amounts of these, they're not following up on their lead by day.
steve bannon
To me, all the student visas ought to be canceled.
All the foreign professors ought to go home.
No H1 visa.
America for Americans.
We got 12 million STEM workers are out of work, right?
You've got all kinds of people want to be doctors.
All kinds of people want to be nurses.
All kinds of people want to be professors.
We should cut out all the visa programs, and they should not send them out of the country when they visa overstay.
Should be arrested, put in Danbury, and then shipped overseas to a prison.
We've got to get cracked down on this.
I agree with you.
unidentified
I live in a suburb of Atlanta.
My daily experience is I'm walking in the grocery store.
There are people in full hijab.
There are people speaking nothing but Spanish, and it's a lot of them.
steve bannon
Montgomery County, Montgomery County, Maryland, which is right there.
You know, it's one of the seven counties that surrounds D.C. Bethesda.
They have 161 languages or dialects that are taught in the school system.
161.
jack posobiec
Steve, I'll just say something.
I'll do you one better.
Because if Kami Mamdani up in New York has taught us something, a piece of paper does not make you an American.
steve bannon
Do you have social media?
Where do people go?
You don't?
unidentified
I just do travel.
It's gayaway sick.
Don't DM her.
steve bannon
Okay, Ben Berkwam, what's your social media?
No, no, Ben, we got to jump.
What's your social media?
ben bergquam
At Ben Berquam, at RealAM Voice.
You got to follow everything.
Everything's first on Real America's Voice and then at Ben Berquer.
steve bannon
Calamity Jane, where do people go?
unidentified
At JaneZirkle on X, Instagram, Getter, and YouTube.
steve bannon
Posto, where do people go?
jack posobiec
You go to at Jack Pesobic or go check out Media Matters, SPLC, CNN.
They can't stop talking about me.
steve bannon
Let's go to Mike Lindell.
You got a hard one minute, Mike.
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