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July 10, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 805: BREAKING: Pope Leo Skeptic LifeSiteNews’s CEO John-Henry Westen FIRED In Pro-Leo Boardroom Coup
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ben harnwell
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frank walker
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liz yore
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
This is the final scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
Everyone's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Battle.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, 9 July, in the year of our Lord 2020.
Hang on for a second.
I'm not supposed to do this on Wednesdays.
Somebody's taking the burden off my not that broad shoulders.
Ben Harnwell, where are you, dude?
You're having dinner in Rome or you're here working, sir?
ben harnwell
Well, I was taking a siesta, and I thought I'd be able to upwards delegate the opening of the show to you today.
We have a fantastic hour, right, Steve?
Some breaking news that one of the great icons in the conservative traditional Catholic sphere, John Henry Weston, excuse me, was fired yesterday by his board of LifeSight News.
We're going to be breaking that down shortly.
Also on the show, we've got some news about the delay, the pushing back to December of the Synod on Synodalities study groups to do with the most controversial topics, that is to do with LGBT inclusion and the women's diaconate.
We'll be hitting that later on the show.
But first, and then of course, stay tuned, folks, because at the end of the show, we've got Jane Zirkle, who's got a superb interview with Tim Hazelow, the Island County GOP chairman.
But let's go to Liz.
Steve, before we unchain you and unleash you on this one, because I know you've got some things to say, let's go to Liz, who's got the essentials of what took place over the last 24 hours in Canada.
liz yore
Yeah, this is a shock, a huge setback for the pro-life movement.
John Henry Weston, for 30 years, co-founded Life Site News, was CEO, and just ran this organization for life and brought the faithful to a real understanding of not only what was going on in the pro-life movement in America and around the world, but he brought an insight and toughness to the issues in the Catholic Church.
And, you know, the board, in a vote of five to four, fired him.
This is an outrage that, I mean, I was at Mass this morning and people are crying.
They're so upset about this.
He has been an anchor of the pro-life movement.
And I think LifeSight News is hoping this crisis will blow over.
But senior citizens are not going to open up their envelopes for LifeSight News.
It's not over.
The battle has begun.
And, you know, I found the words really from Chris Jackson and his substack very powerful.
Here's what Chris Jackson said.
Let this sink in.
A man who co-founded LifeSight News, one of the most prominent outlets defending Catholic tradition and life, can now be removed by a board, not for scandal, not for doctrinal error, but for questioning the very direction of a papacy that is aggressively advancing the same program as Francis under a more traditional exterior.
This is not just an internal personnel shake-up.
It's a signpost, and this is the purge.
You know, I have to say that, you know, I worked with John Henry on a podcast for a year.
Day in and day out, I saw the quality of this man.
He is fearless, and he's not just a leader with respect to the big issues.
He would have the LifeFunder, the GoFund page for people who were arrested outside of abortion clinics.
He would raise money for families that had suffered tremendous tragedy.
He was there for the little people.
And, you know, with his gentle voice but steely spine, he's going to be lost.
But, you know, my dad used to say to all six kids of us, you know, when you fall off the horse, get back on the horse.
And that's what I urged him yesterday to get back on the horse.
We need his voice in this battle.
And I think this is, I think the dark force of the pro-leo-American, you know, neocons are behind this.
And I think the bishops are.
And so I feel very strongly that this is a wake-up call, that the battle is on, and we have to double down and be a lot stronger and really realize what we're up against.
ben harnwell
The battle is on, the party is on.
Let me just read this word from the formal statement that's on the presently on the LifeSight News website.
They say that the board's decision was made after careful consideration and extensive prayer and a commitment to best serve our donors, readers and employees.
That's a very curious thing.
Steve Bann, that's a very curious thing, right?
In a statement such as this, to say so specifically that they've sacked the guy who's been running the show for the last 30 years, as Liz has been saying, taking this website to becoming one of the primary sources, especially in the Catholic liturgy fights from the Conservative traditional point of view, that they've sacked him because they've said that, you know, they want to sort of best serve their donors.
Tell me something.
Do you think this is a confirmation of the thesis that we have been saying on the war room from day one, that the nomination of Leo, of Cardinal Prevost was fundamentally to bring the Catholic, the US Catholic donors back online and under the current tenor of the debate, where the vein of grift is in Catholic media, it's really no dissent is tolerated anymore.
Tell me what your reading of this situation is, Steve Bannon.
steve bannon
It's the reason I jumped on the Wednesday show.
I told you early in the day I got to be on and to be honored to be on with Liz Yore, who is our fiercest warrior, and of course Canon 212, which is arguably the most important site of all we've got.
It's the equivalent for us of what Cain does over at Citizens Free Press and vitally important now more than ever.
Look, they gave it up.
The one thing we always have to do is look, when our enemies make mistakes, you have to capitalize on this mistake.
This is a massive mistake.
They overplayed their hand and they expose themselves.
I've never seen, I do this for a living now for the last, since meeting Andrew.
I've done this since, I guess, 2009, 2010.
I've never seen anything up in your face, up in your grill enough of what they did.
Who was the only person in the world that said Prevost was going to be the Pope?
Stephen K. Bennon.
Why did I say he was going to be the Pope?
Because they got a massive financial problem over there because folks have had enough of it.
And the people that used to give money aren't giving money anymore.
The little guy, they need these big fat cat donors.
And nobody's easier to get along than the American fat cats.
They need to give them an American they can rub up against and enough honors and dinners and special prayer sessions and all this.
Almost like the indulgences problem we had back when the church split with Luther and the crowd.
They're going to do the marriage thing.
They're going to give you a special blessing.
It's all crap.
But that's what the donors want.
And they served up one of the great warriors in this movement.
Not just the institution he built, but the fierceness.
From a federal prison, I was in a nasty federal prison, a dangerous federal prison.
And the people there that were the best of the best, it wasn't Jay 6 or myself, these are the best of the best were these men that were in federal prison for praying the rosary outside abortion clinics.
These are the holiest people I've ever met, the most spiritual people I've ever met, the most centered people I've ever met.
Incredibly inspirational.
And John Henry Weston, and what he built up at Lifeside News, gave a platform of that.
That's one of the reasons they were even able to have the grit and determination, just one aspect, right?
To go to their spirituality.
So this has been amazing.
Plus, a new voice, somebody I had not followed, this Chris Jackson, who people have to read this piece he did.
This is a purge.
They started the war by this action.
So let's get it on.
We have to understand something.
This is nothing but the Francis and the deep state of the church rolling with the happy face of Prevost.
I called it beforehand.
And now they're going to start a purge.
They're going to start a purge.
They're going to get a fight.
And we have to bring out every tool in our disposal.
You're fighting for the church.
You're fighting for the eternal church.
And so those of us, those of you that want to come into a fight, you're going to have the location here, 212, all the other media.
We're going to figure out something with John Henry Weston.
His voice is not going to go away.
His voice is going to be 100 times more powerful.
You donors, and by the way, we're going to expose the donors of LifeSight News.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes.
We're going to go there because we have to go there.
We have a calling to go there.
We have a duty to go there.
So I just want to get on here today and say, you've got three of the greatest fighters.
Your Canon 212, which I love that site.
I love the headlines.
I clicked to it.
They got so much clickbait there for me.
And all the stories are very powerful.
And the way you lay it out, sir, is so powerful.
And of course, the great Ben Harnwell.
So guys, I'm in for the fight.
We're going to get organized here.
But the donors of Life Site News understand something.
You're going to be held personally and individually accountable for this.
ben harnwell
Before you bounce, there is something that the war room, I think, is perfectly poised to do, and that's to making people famous.
I think we need to find out who the nine board members are.
Liz, you all said it was a 5-4 split.
Let's find out who those board members are and make those five that voted out one of the great heroes in the pro-life, pro-traditional Catholic liturgy fight and has been at the forefront, as you would say, the cutting edge, the spear, the point of the spear of that fight for the last 30 years.
Find out who those five people are and make them famous.
Steve Bunnen, what say you?
steve bannon
100%.
Hopefully it was clear enough, but I'll be clear.
We're going to do that.
We're going to make them famous or make them infamous.
How about that?
And others, if the donors are going to roll in and for all these modern indulgences, and that's what it is, the dinners and the special blessings on your marriage and the special blessings on you and your kids, that's not what this fight is about.
This is about the eternal church, okay?
Not the awards and not sitting there with a big feathered hat and walking around all puffed up.
Not going to happen.
Not going to let money determine this battle.
And I guarantee you, we will back some brothers off.
We will back some folks off because they don't want to go there.
I see this.
How do you think we won somebody fights against big tech?
How do you think we won the AI fight last week?
They're cowards.
They only want to do it in the dark of night.
Once you put the high beams on them, hey, they ain't so brave.
They're scrambling.
And that's what's going to happen.
That's what's going to happen.
And life site, the board, you got to come forward and say, you know, And the way they wrote the thing, I found offensive.
He's going to spend more time with his family.
Oh, okay.
I think not.
I think he's going to have even a bigger platform going forward.
And it's outrageous how this was handled, outrageous how it was presented.
And the dark specter of what they intend to do to take money, to put over prevosts in this crowd, and to continue down.
The schism's coming.
It's coming.
There's worse things.
Trust me, there's worse things.
Letting this go to that nest of vipers in the Vatican, that's what it is, a nest of vipers.
Do you have a moral duty?
Do you have a duty?
Do you have a responsibility?
When you're judged, when you're judged, is there one of the things you're going to be judged on that you look the other way at what happened to the church?
That it was just too hard or, you know, it was too awful.
It's too terrible.
That you knew and you did nothing?
Hey, the four of us are far from perfect, but the one thing we're going to checkmark in the book of life is that we did something.
Okay?
I may not have a lot of other check marks because I've got some pretty grievous faults.
But guess what?
I'm going to have a checkmark in the book of life that on this one we threw down.
Ben Harnwell.
ben harnwell
Thanks, Steve.
Look, have you ever been asked for your social media on this show before?
steve bannon
I don't know, Mike.
Get her.
Just go to Getter.
I'm exclusive on Getter.
The reason I'm exclusive on Getter, I love Getter, but I've also been banned everywhere else.
ben harnwell
Do you know?
Banned everywhere, but I'm not sure if you're out on Getter, but do you know what your profile actually is?
steve bannon
Is it Stephen K. Bannon?
I don't know.
Am I?
ben harnwell
Folks, it's at Steve Bannon on Getter.
steve bannon
You know why?
Because somebody beat me to getting at Steve.
Think about it.
unidentified
Steve Cortez.
steve bannon
I didn't even get to.
At Steve Bannon.
Steve Cortez got at Steve.
ben harnwell
Guys, thank you so much.
steve bannon
I don't want to take too much of your time.
There's so many important things you've got to get to today, and three of the best in the world to do it.
So thank you guys for having me on.
ben harnwell
Thanks, Steve.
God bless.
Catch up with you later.
Frank Walker says a couple of things emerged then out of that discussion, right?
Two things that I think are fruitful for inquiry.
Find out who the donors are who've been putting pressure on LiveSight News.
And I would say that the donors get a vote because it's their money.
Find out, above all, who the board members are, because they're not all going to be donors.
Nine board members, five, four vote.
Find out, let's find out who the five were who voted out John Henry Weston, right?
That make them famous.
As Steve is saying, you know, sometimes the best disinfectant is sunlights.
Frank Walker, what are your general thoughts then on the developments over these last 24 hours?
frank walker
Well, I mean, it's a terrible thing because Life Site News, when the church was gutted back in 2013, LifeSight News was a great source of orthodoxy in their reporting and information, which you can't get from the church anymore.
So, you know, right now it looks like a real problem.
But, you know, with Catholic, with faithful Catholic groups and faithful Catholic media, it's not just their faith that's important.
It's also their virtue.
And that's where they try to hit us in our virtue.
Weston, I think he spent a long time because I did a little bit of poking around about this board when I saw what happened because I thought this is what he's been battling these people for a long time.
You need these powerful people in order to have the kind of reach he has and not be shut down.
And so this wasn't a new thing with him.
But when Leo came in there, you could see that Weston was starting to turn, starting to try to hang on to everybody, hold the whole thing together under tremendous pressure.
But then, as in the Jackson article here, it says that he was starting to tweet.
He was starting to send out tweets that said he was starting to turn.
He was starting to feel guilty.
He was starting to worry about being honest with his people that he had cultivated and loved for all these years.
And that's where he was virtuous.
And that's when they hit him.
When they saw those tweets, I didn't know that until I read this article.
He says, it's about you people, you readers, not about Weston.
And it's true.
There's millions of faithful Catholics out there that need his voice.
And they're not going away.
They're still there.
And he's the guy that was the actual lifestyle news.
And he can fix that.
You know, there are people on the board that represented the Knights of Columbus, Catholic Charity.
I mean, just poking around, it looks this way.
Catholic charities, Opus De E, lawyers for the bishops out of Chicago.
These are the kinds of things that if you snoop around a little, you can see the money that's on the board.
He had to be battling them forever.
And this is the same kind of money that destroys all Catholic press.
So hopefully he'll come back and there'll be some backers, maybe with shows like this, that will gather behind him and help him come back and reach those people because the people really need him.
ben harnwell
This, I think, this story of John Henry Weston's firing really does underline something that the war room has been saying for the last six weeks since Provost Pope Leo the Holy stepped out onto the lodge.
And that's this, under the veneer of traditionalism, the veneer, the red mozzeta, specifically the velvet mozzeta, the cape, the short shoulder length cape, and a bit of a smattering, a bit of very badly pronounced Latin, most of the Catholic media that was quite openly hostile to Bergoglio pivoted and said, they're so easy to be swayed.
They pivoted from being very hard line against Bergoglio for all of his many heresies, saying, let's give Leo a chance.
Now, something on the war and I say, I said in the beginning, we've come under a lot of criticism in social media for the line, the consistent line that we've had.
Frank, you've had it yourself on Canon 2.12.
We've basically said, look, wait and see is one thing, But we want to see some substance before we start encouraging our followers to say to drop their guard because there's been absolutely no real substantial reason to do so.
We've been developing as a movement, as a well-informed, faithful laity over the last 12 years.
We've been developing as a movement into a position of strength in being able to criticize our bishops when they do wrong.
And we don't want to see that movement disbanded just because of sentimentalism.
And I think, you know, reading between the lines, reading this Chris Jackson piece, reading the statement itself on live site news, it's absolutely clear that this line that we have on the war room, Frank, that you have on Canon 212, is very difficult to sustain now because, as we had said before, the donors are one thing.
But the grift in terms of the general fundraising was very difficult under Bergoglio.
You could perhaps, if you were a Catholic organisation, you could perhaps rattle the bucket a little bit by going on the attack, but they were sort of poor pickings.
The moment you have someone who fits more into the Ratzinger line, if you are a Catholic organisation on the right of the spectrum, you can really go for the vein of the fundraising shamelessly.
And I think that is the issue that the board of...
The board wants to maximize its fundraising capacity.
And that's, I think, Frank Walker, the difficulty that LifeSight News faced, is that the editorial positions and social media profile of John Henry Weston, with his uncompromising analysis on the Pope, made the fundraising so much more difficult.
And fundamentally, that's why they got rid of him.
And that's the lesson I would suggest that the war room takes away.
In Catholic media, if it has the word Catholic basically in the title, be very, very wary because they're probably not going to be telling you the truth.
Liz, what's your reading on this?
Do you think it's fundamentally an issue of grift and of fundraising potential here?
liz yore
Absolutely.
What happened, just like Warroom said, on July 1st, out comes Leo asking directly for money for Peter's pence and from the American donor class.
It's, and look, this is, they had scripted this very carefully, that American Pope, quote unquote, an American Pope who had manners, unlike Bergoglio, coming out wearing the Mosetta, chanting in Latin.
He has a beautiful voice, that they had fixed their financial problem.
I mean, it's just so superficial that Catholics would only look at the exterior and not look at what was really happening.
But this purge at Life Site News is about clearing the landscape for Leo to ruin the church with little or no media pushback.
And because he is an American and a fan of the Chicago White Sox and likes to play tennis, we're all supposed to fall down and not criticize it when just yesterday he announced and performed in a mass the care of creation based on Lodotte C. I mean, they might as well have called this new mass the mass of Leo DiCaprio or Mass of Jeffrey Sachs, you know, the one who has scripted all these encyclicals.
But, you know, they're not going to intimidate us.
They're not going to pull the wool over our eyes just because he is, you know, a lot better than Bergoglio with respect to the optics.
And so they're going to take out John Henry's voice for the time being.
But I promise you that his voice will be larger, that the voice of all these Catholics who have been fighting in the trenches against Bergoglio, against the Senator Church, against the destruction of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, they're going to come together because this has been, I think, a moment of reckoning for all of us.
This is a beloved man, John Henry, who was trusted, a moral man, who was fearless in a quiet, kind way.
He led the way.
And so people have had it.
People are shocked.
And I think this is going to renew the battle on behalf of the church.
ben harnwell
So Liz, you're basically saying you're not going to be bullied.
We don't have time to cover this story that came out today.
We'll do it this next Wednesday.
But just to give an indication of what is going on in Leo Church right now, over in France, an archbishop has appointed a priest who was as chancellor of the diocese.
That's basically the number two beneath the bishop himself, has appointed a priest who was convicted of raping a 16-year-old boy.
And the bishop has been trying to calm down the media outrage on this, saying, oh, don't worry, the position is, and I quote, is mostly administrative.
So that's the reality.
And beneath the red mozzeta, right, and the beautifully sung but badly pronounced smattering of Latin, this is the reality of what's going on in Leo Church right now.
And the loss of life site news, or basically the loss of John Henry Weston, means that the bringing to light of these realities, Frank Walker, it's going to fall on our shoulders even more, right?
It's going to fall on the war room.
It's going to fall on Canon 212.
Are you inclined?
Liz Yotis, she's not going to be bullied by this.
Are you going to be bullied by the firing of John Henry Weston?
frank walker
Well, this kind of thing happened to me before, too, during the 2016 primaries, when they wanted all the Catholic voices to be never Trump.
I remember.
And I just wasn't never Trump.
I was pro-Trump because any Catholic would look at the pro-life option of it.
And I got moved out of the former site in two months.
I had another site.
A lot of people lined up to contribute to it and recommend it, and it was all back together.
And I hope that he can do something like that again because, in retrospect, it just looks like a weak effort to take out something that you can't really cancel.
You're not going to be able to cancel the movement that is there behind LifeSight News.
Even Chris Jackson himself, he used to write for a big traditional site.
And I haven't seen anything there in weeks, but now with his sub stack, he's back.
So I think this same kind of thing can happen in a big way with LifeSight News or whatever they're going to call it next time.
And maybe a different set of backers.
ben harnwell
Folks, Dunn, Standby, we're back in two minutes after this short break.
But Liz, you're said it.
We have a Mass for Creation.
You might as well have a Mass for Leo DiCaprio because it would be more Catholic.
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In America's heart.
war room here's your host stephen k band Welcome back.
ben harnwell
Well, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, the news came out a couple of days ago that the study group reports from the Synod on Synodality has been pushed back from their reporting deadline, which had been set for the end of June.
It's now been pushed back to December.
Frank Walker, you're going to break this down for us, and then I'm going to come back to you and ask Liz and your good self for your analysis.
But basically, my opening question to you before you explain what's happened here.
Is Leo Church now in full-on meltdown?
frank walker
Well, I don't know about that.
Leo has asked them to postpone it, but he still wants them to report on these study groups.
See, the synod is moving into this, what they call it, implementation phase now.
And they're going to start to hound all the dioceses and the parishes to pick up this whole synod torch again.
Now that Francis has died, they're delaying it a little bit.
And Leo has told them to delay it until December.
But it's a long, long process of these synods.
They've released this big document now on implementation.
And it's completely unreadable.
But I think it's because it's legalistic and hidden in there are some orders, some things that are going to happen.
I don't think that so much he's defensive because it's important in the synods to go very, very, very slow.
It's like a big cloud of smoke to keep all of the people in the press and all in the Catholic world so that they don't pay attention to what's going on.
So, you know, I think that before when Leo, Francis, when he was in the hospital, he told them to come up with a new three-year process.
But I don't think Francis told them to come up with that process of implementation.
I think that's probably somebody like Leo.
Because when Francis was sick in the hospital, I think Leo was pulling a lot of strings behind the scenes.
So this stretching out process, people are real upset about the synonymity.
A priest just wrote me and said he can't find enough pejoratives about the things if you actually read the document that says, this is trouble, these synods.
And the study groups that he delayed just for a few months, they're all about the worst parts about it.
That's where things are really happening.
I think it's more of the process.
I think Leo is firmly in charge of it.
ben harnwell
But when it comes to the process in the Vatican, that's one word to strike fear into any faithful Catholic's heart.
But just to give one example to the war in posse, the study group on the question of the female diaconate, the ordination, minor ordination of women, the members of that study group haven't even been published.
Liz, you're, do you see this?
I mean, the idea of farming off these most controversial issues like female diaconate, like the LGBT inclusion, to the study groups and to take them from the synod floor itself to push them out there to these.
Do you see in that some kind of Saul Alinsky type maneuvering of the strategy beloved of Bergoglio?
liz yore
This whole thing is a Marxist, synodal, bureaucratic strategy to change the church.
Now, what have they been saying?
He came out on the logia and said he was going to support, Leo did, the synodal church.
And they're calling it the new synodal church.
This is about changing the Catholic Church.
You'll note in the last few years of Bergoglio's papacy, he stopped using the word Catholic, and he started using the qualifier synodal church.
People have to wake up.
This is, and I think the postponement is only a PR media strategy so that Leo can massage these issues.
I have absolutely full terror and confidence that they are going full speed ahead.
And if you read the documents, and I would urge Catholics to read the final sonatal document, it reads like Deepa Chopra and Mary Ann Williamson smoking a joint.
It is madness.
It is jargon.
It is absolutely new age mumbo jumbo.
The words they use, we're going to be a listening church.
We're going to be a dialoguing church.
We're going to be an inclusive church.
We're going to be a synodal church.
Do a word search in the Bible.
You will find none of those words.
This is a teaching church, an evangelizing church that speaks truth to the culture in the words of Jesus Christ.
This synodal church has been the gradual but clear, absolute removal, eradication of Catholic from the discussion, from the agenda, and replacing it with this word that literally has no meaning.
And when I write articles and write synodal, my grammar thing pops up and says, it's not a word.
Well, of course it's not a word.
That's what The Marxists do, don't they?
They make up words and they impose new meaning for words.
This is, I think, this is just, you know, buying time.
Leo is full square behind this synodal church.
And this has got to be a discussion and a battle that happens now because the plans based on the synodal church, quote-unquote, synodal church, are a radical distraction and a change in teaching, dogma, and in the entire teaching of the Catholic Church under the name of synodal.
And what they're doing, one more thing, what they're doing is they're saying the Holy Spirit is moving us in this direction.
They are hijacking the Holy Spirit as the one who is moving the synodal church.
And they're doing this because if you object to what's going on in the synodal church, well, the Holy Spirit was moving the synods.
So, you know, how are you going to battle the Holy Spirit?
It is, and God will not be mocked.
And the third person of the Trinity will not be mocked.
So that's what's going on.
He's fully square behind it.
He's said a number of times he has.
And, you know, you just saw the care of the creation mass.
That's Francis.
ben harnwell
You mentioned your spell check objecting to the word synodal.
It's long been said in Catholic circles, right?
If in Catholic debate you see a word in Latin with a Latin derivation, you're on safe ground.
If you see a word in Greek or with Greek derivation, reach for the door.
And this would very much be a confirmation of that rule of thumb.
Frank Walker, now is probably a good moment to mention, because we didn't have a chance last week, what our friend Diane Montagna has been writing about.
It had a lot of resonance in the media to do with her expose.
She's got her hands on the leaked documents here from a basically manipulated synodal process, a consultation process, I should say, where Pope Francis claimed, in pairing back permission for the traditional Latin Mass, the Tridentine Rite, claimed that that was the overwhelming request of the bishops who had been involved with the consultation.
Of course, those papers had never been revealed.
And then Diane Montagne was provided with the executive summary of this, of reports, which told a very different story.
Now, I don't want to accuse a Pope or an anti-Pope of telling porcupies, but that very much does seem to be the case here with the suppression of the old mass.
You might want to say a few words about that.
Frank, I'll come to you first.
You might want to say a few words about this in relation to what is going on here with this synodal process and the study groups and the fact that these controversial issues had been farmed out to the study groups and taken off basically the main floor of the synod itself.
frank walker
It's always a shell game, is what it is.
And we remember that from all the series of synods that happened back when we used to take them seriously, you know, 10 years ago.
Diane Montagna noted that the bishops didn't want that.
Only a small minority of bishops even responded to that survey.
And the ones that did didn't want to drop the Latin Mass.
They wanted to keep it.
The rest we don't know anything about.
But Francis doesn't care about that.
He didn't care about that at the time.
He just wanted to use it as a smokescreen in order to get what he wants.
And that's what these study groups are.
They're moving what they call a big, wide, hundreds of people sonato process into groups of experts that may have nothing to do with the church whatsoever.
The one that you mentioned about ordaining women, that's secretly in the Doctrine of the Faith Office.
Cardinal Kissy Fernandez's group is managing that one.
So it's all a smokescreen, and that's why they go so slow.
Yeah, so that Diane Montagna piece, I think it was just a sign of the way things really are.
And going forward, they're actually going to swing a hammer on all of us with these synods.
While we're not paying attention, all of a sudden these things are going to happen.
It isn't just ordaining women or the gay rights movement inside the church.
It's also the actual conferences that the bishops are using altogether.
What kind of formation the priests go into?
And if you can't figure it out because it's thousands of words of blather, all you have to do is ask these expert groups and they'll let you know.
You know, I think that Greek is, if you see German in there too, that language would be a telltale sign because this whole synod process seems very Nazi-ish to me.
I like to use, in my headlines, I like to put it in a Nazi accent because it makes much more sense.
You know, the head of the synod says, oh, we have tools and stimuli to use.
It all sounds very ominous to me.
We're just waiting for the hammer to fall, really.
ben harnwell
Superb.
Frank Walker, many thanks indeed.
Look, can I ask you to put the Chris Jackson article up and the various sources that we've spoken about today on Canon 212?
And I'll point now, the War Room Posse, to your website to fish those out and to read those in more detail.
So Frank Walker, your social media and your Canon 212, which is basically the Catholic Matt Drudge website of choice for faithful Catholics.
Where do people go to?
frank walker
D-A-N-O-N-212.
That's the website.
Bookmark it so that it's in your computer.
And on Canon 212, spelled out on Twitter.
Also, the daily video update is on Rumble and at Glory TV and also at The Stumbling Block.
ben harnwell
And it's worth quickly mentioning now, we still haven't done the deep dive on this.
Folks, to go to Canon 212, do type it out, the domain name in full, because Frank, since he joined as a contributor to the war room, has been fighting against Google's algorithms that are pointing people far from his site.
Liz, Yor, where do people go to catch up with you on your social media?
liz yore
I'm everywhere on social media under Elizabeth Yore, and my website is yourchildren.com.
Thank you.
ben harnwell
Many thanks, Liz.
And I am, of course, on Get at Harnwell.
My thanks.
We'll be back on Wednesday, 6 o'clock next week.
God willing.
Thanks to my guests today, Steve Bannon, Frank Walker, Liz Yore, to our producer, Cameron Wallace, and to the crack production team in Denver.
We'll be praying for you, you pray for us, and we'll see you again this time next week.
jayne zirkle
What started as a mask mandate dispute in Island County, Washington has led to GOP Chairman Tim Hazelow to face felony charges.
Tim joins us now, and he's going to bring us back to what happened during this past fall's election in Island County.
Tim, thank you for joining us.
tim hazelo
Yeah, thanks, James, for having me.
This is, and I'm ready to say the least.
unidentified
I got a bunch of friends that watch you guys constantly.
So shout out to my folks out there and my wonder new buddies.
jayne zirkle
Yeah, so if you could just run through what happened when you were observing the election at the voting center in Island County.
tim hazelo
Yeah, so I showed up.
unidentified
There's been a mask dispute going on there since early 24.
tim hazelo
The lady tried to put a mask mandate in place.
We complained about it.
She took it down, made it optional.
She put it back up for the general election.
We complained again.
So I decided I would go see for myself as the chairman of the party because everybody's come to me.
And I guess as the de facto GOP leader of the area, it's kind of my job to go in and figure these things out and help these folks.
So I show up.
unidentified
They give me a shoot of paper that has all the rules on it.
tim hazelo
And nowhere on the sheet of paper does it talk about masks in any way, shape, or form.
And those are the official rules written by the auditor.
So I sign the rules.
They tell me that they give me a badge.
They say, okay, go back there and watch the ballot counting.
So I went back there, sat down quietly in the Tentin area in the ballot room where you're supposed to be.
And I just sat there.
unidentified
And I sat there for a good five, eight minutes, maybe 10 on the outside.
tim hazelo
And there's a couple of older people in there with their lax down below in their chin, counting ballots.
unidentified
There was a lady that would take a mask off to talk to the lady next to her.
tim hazelo
I guess it's kind of loud.
unidentified
You see the mask like bullflash at them.
tim hazelo
So I told bad for those people.
unidentified
I sat there with no mask and I sat there quietly, didn't disturb anything.
The manager comes in and says, hey, Tim, and I know her, small town, you're right.
tim hazelo
She says, hey, Tim, you have to have a mask on to be in here.
It's a rule.
And I said, well, what authority, what law gives you the ability to require me to wear a mask?
And she couldn't tell me.
All she could say was it's a rule.
So I said, well, I'd rather just sit here without my mask on and observe the ballot counting.
And so that's what I did.
About 10 minutes later, she came back in, told me how to wear a mask again.
I said, I don't want to.
I'm not going to.
And then the sheriff came in and asked me to leave.
And I think you've seen the video I sent it to you, the body cam video.
And Dorothy against me.
unidentified
Body cam adds 40 pounds to the guy.
jayne zirkle
So let me ask you, you were given a citation by the sheriff.
And what did that citation entail?
unidentified
Well, the citation was disorderly conduct.
I had told the sheriff, and the New Leader has really screwed this one up.
tim hazelo
I didn't ask for a citation.
I said, if I'm not breaking a law that I can be cited for, this was my intention.
Maybe it didn't come out correctly.
But I said, if I'm not breaking a law that I can be cited for, I plan on just sitting there and observing my life.
And I think it's more of been a right.
unidentified
It's a duty for us as Americans to observe this and participate in this action.
tim hazelo
So basically, well, I'll write your citation.
I got up and walked out with him.
unidentified
The whole interaction took a minute.
tim hazelo
You probably saw the body cam.
jayne zirkle
And so that citation led to a misdemeanor charge, but then the prosecutor, Greg Banks, gets involved.
And what happens there?
tim hazelo
Yeah, that's when it gets really crazy.
So first of all, that's the lowest level criminal charge you can get is disorderly conduct.
That's kind of the default go-to for all law enforcement across the country to be able to write a citation just to say that they had did something.
There was no disorderly conduct.
So when I went to court, it was an amazing thing to me to find out that Gray Banks himself was the actual prosecuting attorney.
So the highest level prosecutor in our county, the elected guy, is down here prosecuting the lowest level crime that you could possibly be charged with.
unidentified
And the rest of his attorneys are off doing other things, right?
tim hazelo
That was out in itself.
So I flared innocent.
And I put in the motion for dismissal.
So I got a letter.
I sent you a copy of that letter.
I can provide that to anybody who wants to see it.
But he sent me a letter saying that we was going to add trespassing, which I was not cited for, by the way, to the charge.
And if I didn't plead guilty and accept his punishment, that he was going to raise this up to a felony level, something called unauthorized access to a polling place, which has never been charged against anybody before.
And I mean, I signed in, right?
And then I talked to the sheriff and had to go back up front and sign out when we left.
So obviously I was authorized, but it's an example of show me the man and I'll find a crime.
jayne zirkle
So you're facing these felony charges.
unidentified
What are the penalties associated with these?
Well, the felony could get me five years, five to six years.
tim hazelo
I think the unauthorized access is five years.
The trespassing is a year.
unidentified
And the disorderly conduct was going to be 90 days.
tim hazelo
However, the disorderly conduct got dismissed.
unidentified
The court found no disorderly conduct.
tim hazelo
There was no substantiation for that.
So the one thing that I got cited for, the judge went ahead and dismissed.
The other two things that banks just pulled out of this roll call hat are when I'm currently going to court for.
And I start court on Tuesday, jury selections Tuesday morning.
jayne zirkle
So you're facing five to six years over this initial misdemeanor mass dispute.
tim hazelo
Yeah, because I wouldn't say this to the prosecutor.
unidentified
And the reality is, I can give you a telescreenshot, but this prosecutor, I don't know.
tim hazelo
I'm not in his head.
unidentified
Maybe, maybe he honestly thinks he's doing the right thing here.
tim hazelo
But the reality is his history is just littered with anti-Trump supporter.
He's wished death on Trump supporters.
He's compared us to KKK.
And me as the default GOP representative, if I ran for Congress under a mega ticket.
I got more congressional votes in our district than any Republican ever has.
It's a blue district.
And when I got 148,000 votes, first time at my home for office, I overtook it and I tried hard and I tried to do the right thing, but I think he's trying to cleave a point here.
I don't overact to be sure, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I haven't talked to another prosecutor or another law enforcement agent that thinks a crime has been committed or would have pushed this.
So that's where we're at.
And now I'm spending, I'm into it for 20 grand.
And I don't know about you, but 20 grand is a huge chunk of change for a government contract value.
You know, I've been working for the military.
I was 21 years Navy.
Now I'm a contractor.
I've held the highest clearances you can get in the federal government.
I still have a secret clearance now.
And this could just totally blow up my 35, 38 years of service to our country, honorable service to our country.
jayne zirkle
Well, thank you so much for your service, First Lee.
unidentified
And where can people follow you to get the latest from this trial?
Yeah, I mean, you could search me, just Tim Hinslow, H-A-Z-E-L-O, is there on your screen.
My YouTube name is T-N-T-T, Treat, Not Trash with Tim.
I'm not much of a YouTuber, but I make some videos regarding this and put them up.
tim hazelo
And of course, on Facebook, if you just look up my name, Tim Hinslow, on there, I don't have the bad site.
I'm trying to do a fundraiser on Gear SendGo.
So if you went to GiveSendGo and typed in my name, there would be information there for you.
The reality is we just, guys like us, if we don't stand in that gap, then nobody will, right?
unidentified
And Stu Bannon knows this just as much as any of us do.
tim hazelo
The process is the punishment in a lot of cases.
And guys like us have to stand up for everybody else who might not be willing to or might not have the ability to.
unidentified
Because if we don't challenge the authority, we get lost this country.
That country is found on challenging authority.
jayne zirkle
Big time.
unidentified
Tim, thank you so much and best of luck with the upcoming trial.
tim hazelo
I appreciate it.
unidentified
Thank you.
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