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June 24, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4581: Warmongers Beg For More Conflict In The Middle East
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jack posobiec
10:39
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lindsey graham
19:02
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steve bannon
15:01
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barbara starr
01:43
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brett mcgurk
01:24
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brig gen steve anderson
01:03
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carol leonnig
01:15
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mike lindell
01:33
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anderson cooper
00:16
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mark levin
00:56
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matt gaetz
00:53
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brig gen steve anderson
Yes, Anderson, I would agree with Brad that Iran is extremely weakened right now.
In fact, I think that it demonstrates that we did not need to execute Operation Midnight Hammer.
The Israelis had this well in hand.
There's no reason why we needed to cross that threshold.
And my concern is that, although maybe the immediate crisis may have ebbed, long term, I mean, Iran's in this for the long game.
You got 91 million Iranians, and, you know, there's no fanatic like a religious fanatic.
There's lots of people that are willing to die for their religion.
And I think that there's lots that they could potentially do to us in the United States.
Might not be this week, might not be next month, but this could very well come back to haunt us.
And again, I think that this proves that Operation Midnight Hammer was not needed, that the Israelis could definitely have taken down the nuclear capability of Iranians by themselves, and we did not need to get involved and cross this threshold.
matt gaetz
If those folks had any sense at all, they would do exactly what Donald Trump is saying right now, save their regime, save their lives, and save an entire region from falling into ruin by their hands that would be their bloodstain for all of history.
And, you know, if they don't do that, the big question, Steve, is can this happen more akin to the Solimani takeout?
Now, we supported the Solimani strike because it was President Trump very clearly resetting deterrence, making clear his desire was not some extended conflict, but resetting deterrence on his terms, and the cascade of horribles didn't happen.
So could that happen with a very limited U.S. engagement?
I think that's something that's on the president's mind right now.
anderson cooper
What stands out to you about this latest attack by Iran, by the response, and what seems like the pre-warning about it from Iran?
barbara starr
Well, I think it's just absolutely extraordinary and probably needs a heavy dose of common sense from everybody here, because what are we really talking about?
What we appear at least to be talking about is the U.S. was aware that Iran was going to launch these missiles at the U.S. base in Qatar and possibly at other locations in the Gulf.
So what do you have here?
You have a U.S. adversary making clear that they are going to launch weapons against the U.S. The U.S. knew this, decided not to strike first.
That's my first point.
I find that extraordinary.
You have to believe the Iranians that it was going to be a proportional response.
U.S. intelligence presumably would have seen launchers, would have seen missiles on launchers, and still they decide not to strike when these are aimed at U.S. assets.
So where does it put President Trump?
I mean, does he now order some type of retaliatory action, or does he say, okay, not much happened.
Iran aimed at us, but we can move on from this.
That's putting the president in a political box, I think, and also a national security box, because you have to assume America's adversaries around the world are watching this very carefully, and they will be watching to see what kind of U.S. response here may or may not be coming.
So I find it just remarkable.
Remarkable that the U.S. knew this, okay, but remarkable now what President Trump may have to do to respond to all of this.
Does he just say, okay, never mind, and wait essentially until next time?
carol leonnig
But the president also was basically relying on a group of people that are not really loyalists per se, but are hawks.
And when he made his decision, he was basing it on the intelligence assessment, for example, of General Carrillo, who commands our forces in the Middle East and Central Command.
And he was relying on assessments that were more pessimistic about the possibility of Iran being able to produce bombs really quickly and a desire to, instead of existing intelligence, including from his own Office of the Directorate of National Intelligence and Tulsi Gabbard, saying they have no plans to create a nuclear bomb at this moment.
And he also relied on Benjamin Netanyahu, who said to him, I think actually in a kind of a goading way, remember they tried to kill you twice.
Remember that.
And that's pretty personal for Donald Trump because when he ordered the strike in 2020 that killed the IRCG's leading general, when that happened with Soleimani, the revenge plan for Iran was born.
brett mcgurk
We mentioned Fordo, and it was Iran's decision to put 10 cascades of very advanced centrifuges in Fordo, in that underground facility.
This crisis could not end with all of that intact.
Now, we're still waiting for the BDA, the battle damage assessment of that Fordo strike.
I suspect that the centrifuges are probably totally inoperable, and Fordo will not be an enrichment facility that Iran has going forward.
That's good.
But look, we want to stay focused here on the mission.
There should not be mission creep.
The mission is let's make sure Iran's nuclear program cannot be restored.
If there is material diverted, that has to be accounted for.
I think there's a diplomatic path to ensure you can do that.
But in any case, we are where we are.
We did the operation 48 hours ago.
We now have Iran's response.
I think this is about as good as you could hope for in terms of a response.
You now have a ceiling on it.
But the equation here has been completely changed in terms of Iran's vulnerability, weakness, and the initiative here being with the Israelis, the Americans, and our partners.
And I just, it's almost, you asked, I've been around this for some time.
This is the America, I just can't overestimate.
We did the attack into Iran, and this is Iran's response, and they're saying that's it.
This is a totally new equation, Anderson.
Crisis will recede, but you're standing in the middle of a very new Middle East.
mark levin
Sometimes the military has to be used if it's used by a smart commander in chief.
If it's used wisely, if it's used.
steve bannon
I can't take Levin again.
Thank you.
Let's go live.
You're here at the war room.
Jack Pesobic's with me.
It is Tuesday, 23, excuse me, Monday.
Monday, 23 Junior of the Lord 2025.
Let's go live to the Senate floor.
Lindsey Graham still pushing.
He's upselling you.
Let's listen to it live.
lindsey graham
It's always been this way.
So what happened?
They had a revolution.
In 1979 to 1981, there was an uprising in Iran that led to the installing of the Ayatollah as the leader of Iran, the first Ayatollah, Khomeini.
And now we're on the second one, Khomeini.
Now, what is this thing all about?
These are students pouring over the U.S. Embassy.
And our embassy personnel, 50 American hostages, were held for 444 days by these nutjobs.
They were subjected to intense physical and psychological torture throughout their captivity, such as mock executions, beatings, solitary confinement, and very bad living conditions.
So, this is what they did when they took over.
They came after us, held our people hostage, and treated us very brutally.
In 1984, the United States made Iran a state sponsor of terrorism under U.S. law because of the way the Iranian regime under the Ayatollah was conducting himself.
They were wreaking havoc throughout the region, and they were doing things against Israel and the United States that justified their designation in 1984 as a state sponsor of terrorism, and that has not changed.
Now, why are they state-sponsor of terrorists?
Because they're terrorists, and they support terrorists.
Hezbollah, $700 million, we project, was given to Iran by Hezbollah.
It's almost their entire budget.
They're a terrorist group, mainly in Lebanon, of the Shia branch of the tree.
Hamas, who conducted the October 7th attack against Israel, Israel projects that 93% of Hamas's military budget came from Iran.
And we have the Houdis.
All of their missiles and rockets came from Iran.
We've got Shiite groups in Iraq funded by Iran.
Now, why are they a state sponsor of terrorism?
Because they sponsor terrorism all over the world, and they did it with petro dollars from the Iran nuclear deal and other sources of revenue, which was a really bad idea.
And that's why Trump pulled out.
Here's the reporting over the period here.
Hamas-Iran alliance captured documents exposed decades-long tariff funding.
So when Israel began to liberate Gaza from Hamas and drive out Hamas terrorists, they found a treasure trove of documents showing the history between Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran suitcase stuffed with cash.
U.S. flow of funds to Yemen to help the Houdis.
What else have they done other than funding terrorist groups?
They've threatened to kill American officials.
President Trump, Brian Hook, General McKenzie, Robert O'Brien, Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, all these people involved in the Suleimani attack.
Now, why did we go after Suleimani?
Because he was the leader of the more radical elements of their military that had been targeting Americans, and he was planning to attack our forces in Iraq, and Trump took him out.
1983, Beirut barracks bombing, Hezbollah supported by Iran.
Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, terrorist groups supported by Iran.
That's why they're terrorist.
They have been coming after our interest.
They've attacked our shipping in the Red Sea, the Houdis have, and they couldn't fire one missile without Iranian support because that's where all their rockets come from.
Now, some cast of characters here.
The recent new president was sworn in in Iran.
During the swearing in of the Iranian president, the crowd started chanting death to America, deaf to America, during the swearing in of the new president not long ago, July 30th, 2024.
Not quite a year ago.
So people wonder what they're up to.
steve bannon
Let me tell you what.
They say bad things about Islam Z. Is that what they did?
They said bad things.
We've had a million people killed by fentanyl directly from the Chinese Communist Party in the cartels.
One million Americans, 50,000 a year, more than Vietnam, more than the entire time in Vietnam.
And all these guys do, working for a foreign power, and that's what they're doing, representing a foreign power, is saying they're time and time again.
I want my staff, as soon as Lindsay says anything interesting.
Jack, I think we might have an off-ramp today, right?
I think we might have an off-ramp, because I don't know.
Is it becoming clear to people, first off, in all the bombing that's taken place and everything we know, battle damage assessment, does it look like any ballistic missile, you know, any ballistic missile could get to the United States, any real weapon, is any warhead, is there any bomb?
Was there anything that Mossad gave us this intelligence that we had to go last Thursday night.
Let's expose the lies and misrepresentations.
Jack Bosobic, tell me, and by the way, today, Cutter, this was total performative.
They informed everybody.
They just sent the same amount of missiles.
It's cosplay.
President Trump did the assault magnificently, and now it's over.
Everybody can move on, Jack Bosobic.
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, you know, and here we have Senator Lindsey Graham, the upseller, right?
He's up there.
And Mark Levin also on Twitter as well, and I'm sure he will on Fox at some point, saying, how are we just going to allow them to stay?
We can't just allow them to stay.
We've got to go in.
We've got to do more.
We've got to do this.
More, more, more, more, more.
Full on regime change.
Full on regime change.
And I said, Lindsey Graham, with this history lesson, I wish you could dial it back just a little bit to the regime change that happened just before the regime change of the Iranian student revolution, a little something called Operation Ajax that perhaps we could talk about in the 1950s back when Iran was a democratic republic.
And who was it that overthrew?
Oh, right.
The CIA overthrew the Democratic Prime Minister of Iran, Mossadegh, and reinstalled the Shah.
That's what made the Iranians so mad.
They turned to a nut job like I told Khomeini.
It was the last time all these eggheads got together in the CIA and said, this will be a great idea.
It's going to work real well for everybody.
Why?
It was about oil because BP controlled the oil, all the oil fields in Iran.
And then Mosad Egg came in and nationalized it.
And he said, oh, we can't have that.
So it started with MI6.
It's pre-Vietnam, by the way.
The same way the French came to us about Vietnam, the British came to us about Iran.
Go look this up.
Go chat GPT.
Go ask Grok about it, whatever you want.
And you will see it's very, very clear.
That regime change led to the Shah.
So we overthrew Democratic Iran.
Let's get it straight.
That was us.
Then the Shah himself got overthrown because they were so mad at the Americans that they turned to the nuts in the Islamic revolution.
That's the actual history, all right?
And you can understand that or you can lie like Lindsey Graham is right now because you want more regime change, more war, more death.
The same way Lindsey Graham pushed regime change in Ukraine back in 2014 and the same way he's been for every single war since he's been alive.
steve bannon
Lady Lindsay's doing an upsell.
You got Lady Lindsay on the floor of the Senate.
If anything interesting, I want to go back and we can capture this.
Maybe play it and replay.
And of course, Mark Levin upselling you, upselling you the phony urgency.
There's nothing urgent here.
jack posobiec
It's almost like this was never about it, the nuclear program to these guys.
unidentified
Almost like these guys always wanted the regime change.
steve bannon
Don't you think that might be possible?
Jack, tell us what happened this afternoon.
Cutter did, as soon as we got off the show, I think during your show, Cutter actually responded.
President Trump put out a really smart truth social about this.
Cutter got involved.
I think it was the same amount of missiles symbolically that, you know, same amount of warheads that we sent.
I think 14. They took care of them.
The symbolism's there.
Everybody, all the smart people saying, hey, both sides are kind of had their say.
Now there's an off-ramp.
President Trump, I think, looking at kind of the vibe coming out of this is not buying the upsell as hard as Fox is pushing it, not buying the upsell.
So isn't it, don't we have a geez from the great movie Fargo?
What happens here?
The president's going to look at his alternatives and say, I can shut this one down right now, sir?
jack posobiec
Look, President Trump's been very clear about this, is that he's always drawn a circle around the nuclear program, denuclearization.
That's always been his goal.
He said it so many times.
He said it the day he came down the escalator.
He said it in podcast and interview after interview.
He always mentioned Iran can't have nukes.
Iran can't have nukes.
Iran can't have nukes.
Okay, President Trump has now effectuated that.
The commander's desired end state.
If you're in the military, you understand this is the commander's desired end state.
And the commander's desired end state has been written and has been achieved.
So now you have all these people running around saying, wait a minute, who we called out on this program a week and said, Jack, hang on.
steve bannon
Jack, hang on.
We got so much good, Lady Lindsay.
Let's cut back to the Senate floor.
He's giving us a history lesson you're going to want to hear.
lindsey graham
Against the state of Israel, you don't understand his religion.
What drove Hitler?
A sick, twisted, distorted view of the master race.
These people want a master religion, not a master race.
They want to dominate the world religiously.
That's what they're all about.
They export terrorism in the name of religion.
They support groups that want to take down secular regimes.
They want a master religion like the Nazis wanted a master race.
And let me tell you what our friends in Israel are saying.
Hell no.
Once is enough.
So what should Israel do?
unidentified
So what should Israel do?
lindsey graham
Here's what Israel should do.
They should fight back to the American people.
What would our country do if there was one missile shot into South Carolina or Alabama from a foreign power that killed our citizens?
Everybody in South Carolina and Alabama would be wanting to end the terror and go after the people who did it.
And it would be the entire nation.
Why should we expect Israel to tolerate what we wouldn't tolerate?
There's been over a thousand missiles shot into Israel.
Since their founding, people have been trying to kill them all.
Hamas, Hezbollah, the House have one thing in common.
They're all funded by Iran.
All the weapons come from the Iranians.
What is this all about?
Killing the Jews and eventually us And dominating the world religiously.
If you think that's weird, then you need to get on the internet and listen to what they're doing.
You need to watch their behavior and they mean what they say and don't be like the people in the 30s that got it wrong.
Israel's not going to let it get it wrong the second time.
Donald Trump, God bless President Donald J. Trump.
I am so glad he won.
What has he tried to do?
Make peace, not war.
He gave the Ayatollah 60 days to find a peaceful settlement regarding their enrichment program.
They could have nuclear power, but they can't enrich.
There are 20 nations that have nuclear power that get the fuel for their reactors outside their country.
We would have done that for Iran.
They were tapping him along.
61 days go by, and the rest is history.
They're not interested in peace.
They're interested in fulfilling a religious agenda that has no place for us or the state of Israel.
Hitler didn't want peace.
There was not a part of the country you could give him to stop him from enacting his sick and twisted agenda.
He didn't want German-speaking populations.
He wanted the entire world to speak German.
He wanted the entire world to fall under his Nazi regime.
He was nuts.
And it took a bunch of people from all over the world, particularly America, to destroy the Third Reich.
And about 60 million people died because we got it wrong in the 30s.
6 million Jews.
We're not going to let that happen again as long as I'm around the presiding officer of President Trump and the people of Israel.
We're not going to let that happen.
We're going to stick with Israel because sticking with them is helping us.
They're fighting the people that want to kill us as much as they want to kill all the Jews.
Their fight, in my view, is our fight.
Operation Midnight Hammer.
After day 60, all the negotiations went nowhere because the Iranians didn't want them to go anywhere.
President Trump acted.
And it was brilliant.
It was bold.
And it will live in history.
To all those who took part in this, God bless you.
We have the finest military on earth.
We proved that yet again.
But you can have the best military if you don't have the right commander-in-chief.
Nothing happens.
We got the right commander-in-chief married up with the strongest military in history, which will make us safer.
We're not looking to take over Iran.
We're not looking to invade Iran.
We're looking to make sure that the fanatics who run Iran can't hurt us and can't destroy our friends in Israel.
And President Trump did something about it.
He sent B-2s to Guam, and everybody thought, well, what's that all about?
Well, they missed the other B-2s that went to Iran and put a hurting on these three enrichment sites.
To the pilots, to the air crews, to everybody involved, well done.
I spent 30-something years in the Air Force, and I've never been more proud.
Fly, fight, win.
Now, what's next?
They shot missiles at our air base in Qatar.
The Iranians did today.
About 16 or 19. One may have gotten through.
I think they called us.
But just remember what I said.
They shot missiles at us today.
They shot missiles at Israel last night.
The strikes a couple of days ago were designed to shut down the enrichment facilities used to make this weapons grade uranium.
I think we were substantially successful.
I've never been more proud of President Trump and our military, and I think we set back their nuclear program substantially.
But here's what we didn't do.
We didn't change their desire for a nuclear weapon.
We changed the capability to make one.
Here's my goal, is to have people in charge of Iran who don't want a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel, who will not be the largest state sponsor of terrorism, but live in peace with their neighbors and have a good relationship with the United States.
That's what I want.
And if you don't want that, there's something wrong with you.
How do you get that?
Two ways.
The religious fanatics reject their agenda.
They change their behavior.
Maybe that'll happen.
I don't know.
Or you change the people.
And you replace the religious fanatics with people in Iran who do not want to destroy the world, who do not want to create a master religion, who want to live in peace.
And I think that's the vast majority of the Iranians.
If we get this right, stick with Israel, stand up to this bully, this religious fanatical regime, let Israel do what they need to do, then I think peace is coming.
The presiding officer and myself went to Saudi Arabia and Israel to talk about Saudi Arabia recognizing the Jewish state under certain conditions.
Before the attack of October the 7th, we were very close to expanding the Abraham Accords to include a deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel that basically would end the Arab-Israeli conflict.
An amazing moment in history.
October the 7th comes along, a vicious, brutal attack on Israel by Hamas, which is fully funded by Iran, raping women, killing children in front of the parents, and doing things that we really don't need to be talking about on the floor.
That was designed to stop reconciliation between Saudi Arabia and Israel, because for the Iranian fanatical regime, the worst nightmare is for the Arab world to make peace with Israel and move toward the light.
These people want darkness for the world.
So what do we do now?
Israel has had it.
I talked to the Prime Minister yesterday before I went on television, and I asked him, what would you like me to tell America, B.B.?
He said, three things.
We are profoundly grateful to the American people for what you do to help the Jewish state.
We couldn't be here without you.
We're profoundly grateful to President Trump for his strong leadership.
He also wanted me to urge the people of Iran to seize the moment to end the nightmare you've been living.
And the third thing he wanted me to tell the American people is Israel is not going to live this way anymore.
They're not going to raise their children in bomb shelters.
They're not going to have their life interrupted daily by ballistic missiles coming from religious Nazis who want to kill all the Jews like Hitler.
They're not going to put up with that.
Regime change is coming to Iran one or two ways.
The regime renounces what they've been doing since 1979 and change course, or it's replaced.
To expect Israel to do anything else is offensive to me.
You're asking Israel to accept normal being attacked every day and every night by over 500 ballistic missiles?
Over 24 Israeli citizens have been killed.
The missiles going into Israel are designed to kill children.
The attack by the Israelis are designed to shut down the regime's nuclear capability.
But the targets are changing.
They're now going after the police force that keeps the Aitoll in power, the intelligence services that scare people into submission, the prisons that house dissidents.
Israel has made a faithful decision to go to the heart of this regime, to take these religious Nazis down one way or the other, reject Nazism in the form of religion, or get new people.
And I am with them.
I'm with them to the bitter end.
I'm with them because being with them is in your own interest if you're an American.
Being with them is in your own interest if you believe in religious tolerance.
Being with Israel means you reject a regime that would take a 16-year-old girl off the bus and beat her to death because she didn't have a head cover.
This is evil we're fighting.
These are as evil as the Nazis.
80 years later, we're having a debate about what the Jewish people should do to a group that wants to kill them all.
Really?
We're debating among ourselves what is too much against a regime trying to build dozens of nuclear weapons to blow people off the planet they don't like or agree with?
unidentified
What kind of world are we living in?
lindsey graham
To all those who want to hold Israel back, what would you do if it were our country?
Would you hold us back?
If you tried to, we'd run you over.
We're not going to live this way as Americans.
So what is this all about?
I'm going to end where I began.
It's about a fanatical regime that took over the country by force, that started out imprisoning Americans, been trying to build nuclear bombs, multiple nuclear bombs, has been the largest state sponsor of terrorism since 1984, has American blood on its hands, has attacked Israel over and over and over again, has suppressed its own people.
It's about a religious agenda.
Why do they do what they do?
Religious, fanatical beliefs, a master religion for the world.
And if you don't believe that, you have missed a lot.
That's what they want.
And the only way they're not going to get there is for somebody to stop them.
What did Hitler want?
To take over the entire world and create a master race.
Anybody that didn't fit his definition of the right kind of person was imprisoned or killed.
The Eito and his henchmen have that same view, but it's religiously driven.
So what happens in the next few days is going to determine the course of history for the state of Israel and the region for decades to come.
To our friends in Israel, finish the job.
Do what you have to do to bring about the regime change that will allow your children to sleep through the night.
To the American people, wake up.
Understand what we're fighting.
The Ayatollah is not normal.
These are not normal people.
Stand with Israel.
Standing with Israel, you're helping your own self.
You're helping your own families.
I'll make a prediction.
Israel is going to win, and this regime is going to fall.
This regime is going to fall of its own weight.
The people in Iran are going to have a chance, as the regime gets weakened, to rise up and take back their own lives.
I don't know when that day is coming, but it's coming soon.
I believe that.
I believe the day of reckoning is here for the religious Nazis running Iran, that their terrorism is coming to an end.
And it's going to be replaced by a region that moves together where Sunnis and Shias and Israelis and all different groups, Christians, work together to build economies where all boats rise.
We live in a time of choosing.
I choose to stand up to evil.
Thank you, Madam President.
I yield the floor.
steve bannon
Okay.
We wanted you to hear that in its entirety for all its rhetorical beauty.
Number one, Senator Graham, I don't think anybody in the Warhammer audience, our mantra has been quite simple.
The Israelis should go for it, go at it.
The IDF, the Israeli Air Force, Bibi Netanyahu, the whole crowd, go.
If regime change, and that's not, I just want to make sure everybody understands the bait and switch here.
Bibi's been very open, including the other night, last night, that it was to take out the nuclear program, stop the ballistic missile program, right?
Those two things.
And he wasn't going to fight a war of attrition.
I think that was the third.
Now we get the upsell that it's regime change.
Israelis, if they want to do that, if that's in their strategic interest, they can't live like this anymore.
And the Mulas are bad guys.
Very bad guys.
Okay?
Very bad people.
If the Israelis want to remove them and have regime change, go for it.
The ask for us and the only ask for us was to come in and help take out the nuclear program, which President Trump, and I just repeat, the Commander-in-Chief of these United States, we obliterated.
In Operation Midnight Hammer, obliterated.
That is President Trump's term, obliterated.
So the upsell, oh, we need boots in the ground to find out where the material is, all of that.
There's no upsell here.
There's no upsell.
There's no more nation building.
There's no more regime change coming from the people of the United States.
People don't support it.
The Israelis, it's different.
That's their fight.
And they should finish what they started.
And they're fully capable of finishing what they started.
Jack Bosobic, and he said the next couple of days, the pressure on President Trump, you see where it's coming from.
Lindsay, I hate to say it, brother.
You got to get that speech down better, and you got to marshal your facts better.
You did not stick the landing.
Jack Bosobic.
jack posobiec
Steve, I think what the War Room posse would see right here is a little bit of a spread between the bid and the ask.
A little bit of bid-ask spread on this one.
They said, no, we know what the offer is, but no, the bid is here, but the ask is way too high.
Look, when it comes, and by the way, did Lindsey Graham, did I just hear him say something that Sunni and Shia will be working together to rebuild the new Iran and lift all boats?
And Jews and Christians and Sunnis.
Just like they did in Iraq, right, Lindsey?
Just like they did in Iraq when we'd be greeted as liberators, just like Iraq, when it didn't break out in sectarian violence and you had the Mahdi army and you had al-Qaeda and Iraq, which turned into ISIS, by the way, and all this and Muqtad al-Sadr and the rest of it.
This stuff, by the way, Steve, let me be very clear about something.
Lindsey Graham knows exactly what he's doing.
He is paid to do this.
The same way that Lindsey Graham destroyed our chances in the midterms of 22 when he walked up and said we're going to do a nationwide abortion ban right before the midterms.
He is a paid operative.
And Lindsey Graham, it doesn't matter if I could sit here and go through all of the different discrepancies and the holes in his arguments and the holes in his logic, but that's not the point.
The real point, and this is why you come on War Room, right?
We don't do that.
We don't do that mid-level stuff.
This is top tier.
This is top shelf.
This is graduate level.
Lindsey Graham is paid by the military industrial complex to go on TV and sell you war and to go in the United States Senate and sell war.
That is his job.
That is who he works for.
Let's look at the state, right?
Who else was out from South Korea?
Oh, that's right.
Nikki Haley, right?
Nikki Haley, Lindsey Graham.
How do they end up having the same exact, the same exact foreign policy?
And another South Carolina politician, I'm sorry, I've got to say it.
I think he's a nice guy, Tim Scott, but he's a neocon.
Nice guy, still a neocon, because again, Trey Gowdy.
steve bannon
That's where they got to.
The MAGA people.
Trey Gowdy is going to be crowd down there.
Trey Gowda, go down the list.
By the way, let's get back.
Lindsey Grant.
jack posobiec
He's not like the current government.
steve bannon
He's going to be pitching.
He's going to be pitching to Ukraine.
Remember, he's just over in Ukraine stirring up trouble, right?
President Trump said specifically to him and Pompeo, watch what you say.
Watch what you say.
I want to go back to the argument.
Jack Pisobic, are you saying that Israel shouldn't do what's in Israel's national security interest and putting Israel first and Israeli citizens first, sir?
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, look, I mean, this has been Israel's fight for, as Lindsey Graham mentioned, for quite some time.
Obviously, the Iranian Revolution 1979, the modern state of Israel, 1948.
So this has been between the two of them for quite some time now.
We know, of course, the current hostilities kicked off a week ago.
So, Steve, yeah, if they're going to continue to go at it, that's in Israel's prerogative.
That is their right to fight.
They have a right to self-defense, just the same way any nation has a right to their self-defense.
What they don't have a right to do is a right to tell the President of the United States what to do.
President Donald Trump is the one in command, not anybody else.
And so what I would also point out, though, is, and we've walked through this on Human Events Daily, the real issue of the order of battle, the magnitude of the expense of these air interceptor missiles, this air defense.
By the way, we already cut air defense for Ukraine so we could backfill the air defense over Israel.
So what does that mean?
Well, the Russians are now pounding Kiev right now because they have the ability to do so.
What are we doing next?
We're dropping coverage of the South China Sea.
Now there's two Chinese aircraft carriers, the Shandong and the Laoning, which are operating in South China Sea.
For the first time, China has more aircraft carriers that are active over in the West Pac, Western Pacific, than we do.
All right.
This is a finite world.
And as conservatives, we understand that we live in a finite world.
And these are hard facts of reality.
Hard facts of reality.
And that's what we deal in here, the hard facts of reality, that this air defense is going to be a lot of money for them to keep up.
So it's been painful for both sides.
And that's why I think President Trump is right to say, you know what?
This is the time for everybody to put the guns down and say, stop.
Enough is enough.
steve bannon
In the new, the upsell is the regime change, we said at the very beginning, and the tell was when we had to provide the Tomahawk missiles for the third site that the Israeli Air Force.
jack posobiec
Because they think they've got their foot in the door now.
This is the foot in the door strategy.
steve bannon
Did you, did you, for the salesman, the full of brush man, did you, they're throwing dirt on your carpet.
Did you are saying?
jack posobiec
Always be closing.
steve bannon
Always be ABC.
Hey, get Lindsay a cup of Watharpath.
jack posobiec
The great Dave Warpath when he's another war room guest.
steve bannon
Get Lindsay a cup of Warpath coffee.
Coffee's for closes, Lindsay.
Receive you, close this.
Close the cell.
Did you smell a little fear?
They finally have some resistance here.
They're calling them out for their lies, the Fox News lies, the upsell.
They're trying to drag America into another forever war.
Did you smell a little...
Got a little emotional, sir?
jack posobiec
Well, again, Steve, you know, these theater kids, that's what they're paid to do.
And maybe he's working on his summer stock down there in Charleston.
I'm not sure, but he's auditioning for, I don't know what if he's going for much ado about nothing.
That's pretty much what I think goes on for Lindsey Graham.
But, you know, not exactly Othello material, but when I think about it.
steve bannon
Play Puck plays Puck in Midsummer Night's Dream.
unidentified
I don't know.
jack posobiec
Puck in Midsummer Night's Dream, yeah.
steve bannon
What are you doing?
jack posobiec
Tanya and I, of course, are overriding to Tanya.
steve bannon
I digress.
Go ahead, sir.
This is serious.
jack posobiec
We're going to stay.
steve bannon
His speech was not serious.
His speech was not serious.
That's one of the reasons we have a ton of money.
jack posobiec
No, it's again, you're looking at a paid infomercial, all right?
You're looking at maybe you could take some lessons from Mike Lindell, because Mike Linddell, there's a guy who could sell anything, right?
The only thing is Mike Lindell's loyalty is to the United States of America and not the military-industrial complex.
You need some of that personality, which Mike doesn't have.
Mike doesn't do that.
You know, Mike doesn't do the fake emotionality.
He doesn't do the fake crying tears like Alex Padilla last week.
Oh, gosh, they hurt me so much.
No, Mike Lindell speaks from the heart because Mike Lindell is authentic because people come to the war room because you want that raw authenticity.
You can't get it from these guys.
You can't get it from these phony career politicians.
You're not going to get it from the talking heads at Fox.
You get it from people who get beat up a couple of three times because you tell the truth.
steve bannon
Here's what I want to thank Parker Sig and Rob Sig at Real America's Voice.
This is one of the reasons we love being associated with this channel.
Right there.
You don't see that on Fox.
We allowed Lindsey Graham, when he went to the Florida Senate, we heard about it, right?
He put out a big tweet.
We let Lindsey Graham have, I think, it looked like 30 or 40 minutes, although I know it felt longer.
30 or 40 minutes, uninterrupted.
We blew the commercial breaks.
We set economics aside and said, hey, let Lindsey make, and this is what we try to do, is just have the camera and the microphone and we step out of it.
No commentary, let it roll.
You heard the pitch.
At home, what are you thinking about?
I'd love to get in the chats.
What is your response?
You heard it.
He's making that address to the American people.
And MAGA right there, you heard it.
We didn't interrupt one time.
We let him have his entire pitch.
Okay, something you don't see on Fox.
They get these little snippets.
You heard the pitch.
Is he upselling you?
Because there's no restriction at all from the MAGA folks on Israel.
We're supporters of Israel.
Israel sees that they're not going to live by that, that they've come up with a new goal or objective in this fight, which has not been announced before.
Now finally, somebody's coming out.
We do appreciate that.
Don't hide the football.
Come out.
Now it's regime change, and that's fine.
I think we said that on Friday the first morning.
We said this was a decapitation strike.
Did we not, Pasovic?
Because it looked like there was more than the nuclear plan.
But hey, President Trump went in.
In President Trump's words, he obliterated Midnight Hammer, obliterated the nuclear program.
Okay?
He delivered what he said, and a lot of his supporters saying, hey, we shouldn't even do that.
But President Trump delivered with the valor and courage and boldness of our military.
That's it.
If you want to upsell, the people in Israel want to do it.
Come off the chain.
They got a fantastic military.
They've beaten Hezbollah.
They're beating the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas in Gaza.
They've won it in southern Syria, right?
This is back to the 1967 and 1973 IDF and Israeli Air Force.
They're brave.
They're courageous.
They know what they want to do.
If Bibi's changed his thing, go for it.
Finish what you started, okay?
There's no need here, zero need for the United States of America to get sucked into regime change in a country that's, I don't know, 5,000 years old.
In 1971, they had the biggest party in the world.
This guy's dad, the Shah Varan at the time, put on a party for the 2,500 birthday of Persia.
Remember that, Jack?
They had it was on the cover of Life magazine.
It was the biggest celebration military, 2,500 years of Persia.
These folks have been around a long time.
Israel wants to do it.
And Lindsey Gray made a good case for Israel to do it.
They should get on with it.
Jack Pasovic, your thoughts?
jack posobiec
Well, and Steve, you look, you know, you know you got Mark Levin up there because he can't close the upsell.
And I'm reading this tweet of his again because President Trump has said Iran should now proceed to peace and harmony in the region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same.
And Mark Levin then responds, and the only way I can read this is that Mark Levin is now openly attacking the President of the United States, duly elected, by saying that would be a disastrous outcome by providing an off-ramp without unconditional surrender.
Will the regime be given a lifeline and survive to terrorize and murder, build more ballistic missiles, and develop nukes and intercontinental ballistic missiles in the future?
By the way, Mark, you just admitted that Iran didn't have ICBMs, which means they couldn't hit the United States.
So he's saying that President Trump calling for peace is a disastrous outcome.
So now because he can't close the sale and President Trump has rightly said, no, denuclearization is the only thing I'm for, now Levin has turned fire on Donald Trump himself.
steve bannon
As we knew he would, all those guys, they see President Trump as nothing more than an instrument.
They're not part of the MAGA movement.
They've never been part of the MAGA movement.
They abandoned Trump against anybody else.
jack posobiec
He's real MAGA.
steve bannon
He's super MAGA.
No, he's not just MAGA.
He's Team Trump.
He's Team Trump.
I guess he's getting off the team because President Trump is not Going along with their insane regime change plan for America.
For Israel, it sounds great.
Go for it.
Go for it.
And best of luck.
Best of luck.
I actually think Israel could do that.
I think the IDF is that good.
I think they're that courageous.
I think the Israeli Air Force is that good.
Get on with it.
You have air supremacy, right?
If you put some commandos in there, you've already killed.
Mossad's already brilliantly assassinated a ton of people.
They try to have Bastille Day today because they bombed the prison.
They bombed the Revolutionary Guard's headquarters, hit them with missiles.
Go for it.
We're already in as a combatant supplying the defense.
President Trump's not going to pull that back.
I think it's highly unlikely he pulls the Arleigh Burke-class ships out of the eastern Mediterranean.
He doesn't pull back the air assets.
They don't stop giving them aero-missiles.
So the United States is going to do as much as they can defensively, although it does make us a combatant.
But Bibi, if you guys want to go for regime change, you don't need Lindsey Graham upselling the American people on the floor of the Senate.
Go for it.
Finish what you started.
In fact, maybe you take your number two pencil out and write it down.
Finish what you started.
Okay?
And if it's an existential threat, then go for it.
Your country deserves to do it.
It's in the vital national security interest of Israel.
It should be done by Israel.
Short break.
Post on the other side.
mark levin
Military has to be used if it's used by a smart commander-in-chief, if it's used wisely, if it's used for a specific purpose, it gives us peace.
So I want the so-called, I don't know what to call them, people are running around, warmonger, the sloganeers.
There should be an education for you too.
There should be an education for you too.
America, don't you feel relief?
Of course you feel relief.
Because these Islamo-Nazis were building nuclear weapons to attack us too with intercontinental ballistic missiles.
Guess what?
You can go to bed peacefully tonight.
No, that's not going to happen.
That's not going to happen.
Not because of Obama, not because of Biden, not because of the Democrats, not because of some Republicans, because of Donald Trump.
steve bannon
Not because of Bush or any of the guys you push for the Iraq war.
That's the hysterical insanity you get.
Mark Levin is going to be teaching a lot of people.
Yeah, we're sitting there.
We got our number two principles that we're ready to write it down.
Jack Pasovic, Mark Levin, for going to bed, sleep, and Tresident Trump being so great.
He ain't so great.
President Trump's not so great right now, right?
Because Mark Levin, please read his tweet at President Trump about President Trump, a man of peace who deserves 10 Nobel Prizes, right?
10 Nobel Prizes.
Read what he's saying about President Trump right now.
jack posobiec
Well, I mean, Steve, you know, this is what we call in the biz.
We call this a sub-tweet because President Trump earlier today said he enthusiastically encourages Israel and Iran to proceed to peace and harmony in the region.
Immediately after that, Mark Levin tweets, the Iranian Nazi regime, same rhetoric as Lindsey Graham, is desperately trying to hold on to power with no effective options.
Will the regime be provided an off-ramp without surrendering unconditionally?
In other words, will the regime be given a lifeline and survive to terrorize and murder, build more ballistic missiles, develop nukes to intercontinental missiles in the future?
That would be a disastrous outcome after all of that.
So right there, you see him countermanding the president.
This is an obvious sub-tweet.
This is obviously directed at President Trump saying that he is backing down, that he's allowing this lifeline, that he's allowing an off-ramp, and basically putting him in the same bucket.
What did he call him?
The isolationists.
Now he's putting President Trump in that bucket as well.
steve bannon
President Trump's not saying he's not offering any lifeline.
Not saying that.
Israel should finish what they started.
Write that down, Mark.
Next time you have your chat with Bibi, tell him that.
Finish what you're warring says.
Hey, Bibi, we love you.
We got your back.
Finish what you started.
Jack, where do people say that?
Exactly.
No, that's what I said the other day on regime change.
I was sub whatever.
I put it up on Getter for the president, for the commander-in-chief, said, hey, check with Bibi.
That's BB in the IDF's issue.
By the way, they should do it.
They're running the tables anyway.
It just we've done.
President Trump committed to stop the nuclear weapons program.
President Trump has now said, I think, 20 times over the last couple hours, he obliterated it.
Okay?
Obliterated it.
End of discussion.
Time to move on.
Israel have at it.
Jack, where do people go for your content?
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, we'll be up here as well at Jack PasobicX on Getter, on Truth, on Telegram.
Of course, we're going to be up there.
We had a huge breaking news show today.
Tomorrow, we're going to get into the aftermath.
And we're also looking to see as Washington scrambles.
Of course, look, 4th of July is coming very soon.
And President Trump had set that as the date for the big, beautiful bill to be passed.
So we're going to be going through and trying to get a count together on this as well.
steve bannon
Yeah, the next hour we're going to pivot and start doing a huge Supreme Court ruling on, guess what?
Wait for it.
Deportations.
Remember that on the main battlefront here in the United States?
Jack Pasovic, you're an officer and a gentleman, sir.
Thank you so much for taking another hour away from your time to join us today.
jack posobiec
God bless.
Thank you, Steve.
Thank you, Warren Posse.
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