June 23, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Common wisdom about this president, about the political movement that he leads, is that he is supposedly isolationist, that he is supposedly anti-war. | ||
| That has never been exactly right. | ||
| That's always been kind of a lazy common wisdom. | ||
| In less than six months back in office, he has threatened military action against Panama, against Canada, against Denmark in order to seize Greenland. | ||
| He has bombed Yemen over and over and over again. | ||
| And now he appears to have entered the United States military into a war in Iran, something that neoconservatives have thrilled to for, I guess, two generations now. | ||
| A lot of commentary around the Trump phenomenon and Trump's politics would suggest that he has risen in opposition to the neoconservatives who have advocated for this type of war since essentially the Iranian Revolution in 1979. | ||
| But since 1979, the U.S. military has not engaged directly with Iran. | ||
| But Donald Trump has done so tonight. | ||
| Donald Trump has ordered U.S. military bombing raids on Iran. | ||
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We are now in war with Iran. | |
| I actually got emotional over this attack because we finally have some sign of retribution for them killing us for so many years, and we just kept taking it on the chin. | ||
| No doubt that because of the president's decisive action, we have severely damaged Iran's critical nuclear infrastructure. | ||
| I think we have to be prepared for Iran to retaliate. | ||
| And I join the president in his warning to the supreme leader of Iran that if he targets Americans, the military force he will see will make last night look like child's play. | ||
| There's no question Iran was working towards having a nuclear weapon that is without question. | ||
| Everyone knows it that looks at the data on this. | ||
| The question is, will they be allowed to be able to actually finish their work to be able to do that? | ||
| President Trump said, no, you cannot do that for the security of the entire world and of American citizens living in that region. | ||
| I don't know how anybody could have been surprised at this. | ||
| I think President Trump certainly telegraphed it. | ||
| He said he was going to make his decision in a couple weeks. | ||
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I certainly understand why President Trump would not share that information with the Democrats in Congress. | |
| And again, the operational security is just so crucial to protect our servicemen and women. | ||
| I didn't need notice. | ||
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I've been saying for over a week, it'll be the president's decision. | |
| I will support that decision. | ||
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You can see this is the before satellite image of the Fordo nuclear plant. | |
| And then after, you can see these craters, three craters here and here. | ||
| Presumably, those are the impacts of the U.S. bunker busting bombs. | ||
| Now, the key is to assess how much damage was actually done underground. | ||
| That's ongoing. | ||
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And as that happens, an incredible amount of awareness now on the possibility of the Iranian counterattack. | |
| Finish it. | ||
| Yeah, well, just think we're in such a better place as a result of the attack than what we were before it. | ||
| And I think when you look at this, is this going to end at a negotiating table or is this going to end on a battlefield? | ||
| And Iran, they've got to go through a couple of things. | ||
| One, I think the status of the damage and the nuclear enterprise is a factor in their decision making, in my view. | ||
| Also, they're on their own time schedule. | ||
| And we're kind of getting into the crouch and getting ready for an attack. | ||
| But they may take their time. | ||
| This is their time schedule. | ||
| A meeting has now begun between Vladimir Putin and Abbas Aragchi. | ||
| Cameras were allowed in at the start of the talks. | ||
| We saw and heard the pair exchange comments between translators. | ||
| Vladimir Putin called the aggression against Iran groundless. | ||
| He said that their meeting will give them the chance to find ways out of the current situation. | ||
| And he added, most importantly, perhaps, that Russia was ready to help the Iranian people. | ||
| But the question everyone wants to know the answer to is what kind of help will that constitute from Russia? | ||
| If Tehran is seeking military help from Moscow, I think Iraqi is going to be leaving here empty-handed, leaving here disappointed. | ||
| And I say that for a number of reasons. | ||
| Firstly, assuming things stay as they are, by the way, firstly, although the countries have this strategic partnership deal that they signed in January that sought to deepen their military cooperation, there's no mutual defense clause contained within it. | ||
| So there's no legal obligation for Moscow to step in and provide military aid to Tehran. | ||
| And the second reason is that all of Russia's attention and resources right now are focused on Ukraine. | ||
| And so I think they're reluctant to be dragged into another conflict. | ||
| And I think they might be hard pressed to as well. | ||
| And the third reason is that this comes at a time when Moscow is trying to get closer to Washington and improve relations there. | ||
| If they back Iran militarily now, then I think, of course, that will derail that kind of warming relationship there. | ||
| So I don't think we're going to see at this stage any material support from Moscow for Tehran. | ||
| At the same time, though, Moscow is very wary of things progressing towards regime change in Iran. | ||
| They lost an important strategic ally in Syria when the Basha al-Assad regime fell there in December, and they don't want the same thing happening right now. | ||
| So for now, I think Moscow is going to be pursuing and working very hard to achieve a diplomatic resolution. | ||
| They're uniquely placed to do that. | ||
| They've got these strong ties with Iran. | ||
| They've got warm relations historically with Israel. | ||
| And there's this budding personal relationship between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. | ||
| So I think the Kremlin is going to be trying to talk everyone down. | ||
| And at this meeting today with the Iranian foreign minister, I think Putin clearly knows that Iran has to respond. | ||
| But I think he's going to be trying to persuade them to limit that response to a symbolic one, hoping that then they can draw a line underneath this. | ||
| And if he can do that, then he will be preserving Russia's interests in the region, but also potentially gaining some leverage with Donald Trump that he could then in turn use when it comes to Ukraine and US military support for Kiev. | ||
| It's a big if, and there's a lot of things playing into it, but Russia has a lot of stake in how this progresses, and there's a lot that remains unpredictable. | ||
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Talk to me, Rick Stengel, about where Prime Minister Netanyahu factors into this debate? | |
| Well, he's the big winner in all of this, and he seems to be conducting American foreign policy, masterminding American intelligence. | ||
| He had tried the last three presidents, including the first Trump administration, to persuade those American presidents that Iran was imminently about to have a nuclear weapon and the U.S. needed to help Israel obliterate it. | ||
| He finally persuaded Donald Trump in his second term. | ||
| He's a very persuasive fellow. | ||
| He sees this ideologically. | ||
| You know, one of the problems of having an American president who sees foreign policy in terms of the personality of foreign leaders is it makes him more receptive to the argument of those foreign leaders. | ||
| Remember, in his first term, he said he trusted Vladimir Putin's description of our intelligence more than our own intelligence services. | ||
| So, you know, BB is really guiding a lot of what's happening here. | ||
| And we should be talking about what he sees as the next step, because that's going to help focus what the American electorate is going to see. | ||
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Meanwhile, President Trump is floating the idea of a regime change in Iran. | |
| In a Truth Social post yesterday, the president wrote, quote, if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change? | ||
| This is the first time Trump's raised the possibility of changing the leadership in Iran since Israel launched that war 11 days ago. | ||
| The president's comments also break from the response of the rest of his administration that they've been taking, as they've been saying the intention of Saturday's strike was not to push for regime change, but to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. | ||
| Sometimes the military has to be used, if it's used by a smart commander-in-chief, if it's used wisely, if it's used for a specific purpose, it gives us peace. | ||
| So I want the so-called, I don't know what to call them, people are running around, warmonger, the sloganeers. | ||
| This should be an education for you too. | ||
| This should be an education for you too. | ||
| America, don't you feel relief? | ||
| Of course you feel relief because these Islamo-Nazis were building nuclear weapons to attack us too with intercontinental ballistic missiles. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| You can go to bed peacefully tonight. | ||
| No, that's not going to happen. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| Not because of Obama, not because of Biden, not because of the Democrats, not because of some Republicans, because of Donald Trump. | ||
| This is the primal screen of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| President's not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop it, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? | |
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Back. | ||
| Monday, 23 June, in the year of our Lord 2025 in a sweltering imperial capital. | ||
| Don't you feel, didn't you go to bed Saturday night feeling better? | ||
| Haven't you felt better all weekend? | ||
| Mark Levin, the propaganda department over there, the hectoring of Fox, because now the SIAPs move into a double, they're moving to a different location. | ||
| We're going to get into that in just a moment. | ||
| But didn't you go? | ||
| Didn't you feel better? | ||
| Don't you feel better? | ||
| The engine room also, and going through the cold open, I want to thank my team. | ||
| Just amazing cold open. | ||
| Did you get enough neocons there? | ||
| Because we can load it up a lot more, folks. | ||
| Just for proportionality, every dollar we spend, focus on this. | ||
| Every second we spend, focus on this. | ||
| We're not focused on the main thing, although the Moolahs are an ally. | ||
| If I said for all five years of the show, they provide the oil for them. | ||
| Dave Walsh is going to join us for that. | ||
| Sam Fattis is going to join us for Intel. | ||
| His thoughts. | ||
| Jack Pasovic's here. | ||
| We're going to take this out in the second hour. | ||
| We're going to get off the Iran war because part of this PSYOP is to get us not to focus on what's important for this country, for America first. | ||
| And we're going to do that. | ||
| And we're going to do that every day. | ||
| We're going to spend time on the war as we have to, right? | ||
| And we should. | ||
| But we're not going to get totally consumed by this because to get totally consumed by this is to fall into their trap to not focus on what's important in this country. | ||
| The engine room informs me, though, for proportionality, Mark Levin and all General Keene, love General Keene, great guy, Jack Keene. | ||
| Although General Keene is kind of morphing into the general in Dr. Strangelove a little bit. | ||
| This is either going to be ended now or ended on a battlefield. | ||
| They're set to go. | ||
| What's happening now is that I think we lost a big part of initiative yesterday morning, and I was very disappointed. | ||
| And I love Pete Hexa. | ||
| This audience does. | ||
| As you know, we went fixed band X to get Pete as DOD and Raisin Kane, a good man and has President Trump's confidence. | ||
| But number one, we should have gone to the initiative. | ||
| We needed to see some grainy photographs like Schwarzkopf put up. | ||
| And they were out there because a couple hours later, an hour later, MSNBC, CNN were putting up and driving the initiative of exactly what happened. | ||
| I understand, DOD, that you don't have the battle damage assessment. | ||
| That's going to take three or four weeks, as you said, but there's enough there to kind of take and start to drive the narrative. | ||
| We lost that opportunity. | ||
| I've been all weekend saying somebody at the Pentagon's got to stand up in front of a podium that says Pentagon in front of it and actually give us a first cut. | ||
| Photographs are all over. | ||
| We need an initial preliminary, subject to change, Draft assessment of exactly what was accomplished. | ||
| President Trump is so proud of this, as he should. | ||
| The precision, logistics, bravery, valor, boldness of the attack itself, unquestioned, right? | ||
| But exactly what was accomplished. | ||
| Number two, because you see now it's all about, hey, we don't know where the material is. | ||
| You see the New York Times, the Financial Times of London, the drumbeat on Fox. | ||
| What's that going to lead us to, folks? | ||
| Hey, do we need the 75th Ranger Battalion to go in and find it? | ||
| Oh, it's coming. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| And of course, you saw the regime change narrative over the weekend, right? | ||
| They're going to drive that. | ||
| You saw the Chavaran son. | ||
| I don't know, a guy that's been partying in New York for 40 years, 50 years. | ||
| They're now at the podium saying they're calling all. | ||
| Remember Chalibi? | ||
| This is Chalabi 2.0. | ||
| Remember Chalabi? | ||
| We got Chalabi 2.0. | ||
| And all that stuff's fine as long as we're not part of it. | ||
| We're going to come out of the battle damage assessment. | ||
| If we've got enough of it done, hey, then it's to the Israelis because I think the tell here, and I think very upsetting, is why did the United States have to take on the other two? | ||
| The other two facilities were never mentioned in the road. | ||
| It was Lars Fordo. | ||
| Can't get to Fordo. | ||
| Need bunker busting bombs to get to Fordo. | ||
| Why is the U.S. Navy in the North Arabian Sea firing 30 tomahawks at one of the facilities? | ||
| Why was that not taken out by the air supremacy of the Israeli Air Force? | ||
| Was the entire thing for the nukes just cosplay? | ||
| Is this because the ultimate goal is regime change? | ||
| And if that's fine, Israelis, have at it. | ||
| Like we said, finish what you started. | ||
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If you want regime change, go for it, baby. | |
| Just no participation by the United States government. | ||
| Short break, Faddis, Walsh, Posobiec, next. | ||
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Stay in America's heart. | |
| Oh! | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen Kayback. | ||
| As the engine room informs me, it's a million deaths by fentanyl. | ||
| We have a million deaths by fentanyl, 50,000 a year. | ||
| Oh, and we got 10,000. | ||
| By the way, every American serviceman, including the Marines in Beirut, who should have been, the vengeance on them should have come years ago, decades ago, and the money, I think, still held up in court. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I got it. | ||
| And the Iranians are bad guys. | ||
| Today, right now, the Israelis bombing Tehran. | ||
| I think they're having Bastille Day there. | ||
| They're bombing the prison. | ||
| They're bombing the Revolutionary Guard headquarters. | ||
| Good on you. | ||
| Bomb away. | ||
| They're talking about regime change. | ||
| They got the Shah's son. | ||
| Like I said, he had a press conference. | ||
| He's Chalabi too. | ||
| They're getting all that together. | ||
| In New York City, a proxy for this is what's happening in New York City right now with that mayor's race. | ||
| You watch. | ||
| You're going to have a radical Islamic mayor on a socialist to top everything off, but that's the least of the issues. | ||
| That's going to happen, folks, or it's going to come damn close. | ||
| And of course, you got the rig voting there, right? | ||
| So everything in New York City fought. | ||
| All you progressives in New York City, hey, get ready to embrace the future, folks. | ||
| The progressives have brought this on us. | ||
| Now you get the Red-Green Alliance. | ||
| But in the fog of war, this is what got Faddis and Walsh on oil and what's happening in the oil markets, particularly what's happening, the threat to shut down the Straits of Hermuz, which, by the way, in any Cartesian kind of logic is the craziest things the Iranians can do. | ||
| But hey, they're taking incoming, and these guys are not exactly rational anyway. | ||
| They're looking for the 13th. | ||
| They're following Mahdi, right? | ||
| They're looking for Mahdi. | ||
| So this is the rationality. | ||
| But no, Mark Levin, I don't think people are sleeping better. | ||
| First off, Sam Fattis. | ||
| The raid itself was magnificent. | ||
| It showed you the coordination, the high technology. | ||
| Nobody on earth, I'm sure the Russians and the Chinese Communist Party got their number two principles out and were writing down a lot of, oh my God, these brothers can move and they can move fast and they can move hard and they can bring the heat. | ||
| But I was very upset yesterday morning when we at least didn't have, you know, give me a Norman Schwarzkopf. | ||
| Give me at least a grainy gun cannon photo of exactly what the freaking, you know, what happened. | ||
| They said at the, you know, Raisin Kane, who's fantastic and has the presence complete trust, because Raisin Kane was the guy that actually took ISIS down, I don't know, in 90 days when they said it would take 10 years. | ||
| He started off, Sam, as Jack has pointed out, by saying, hey, I've got all the assets that are involved, including Space Command, NRO. | ||
| As you know, we can pick out a license plate on an Audi in downtown Tehran. | ||
| Why do I have no grainy photographs at least take the initiative that we're taking the initiative? | ||
| This happened. | ||
| Understanding a bomb damage assessment is 30 days away. | ||
| Sam Fattis. | ||
| Well, first of all, Steve, I agree with you. | ||
| Obviously, all credit to the men and women who pulled this off. | ||
| That's never been our issue, right? | ||
| The competence of our people. | ||
| Why didn't they give us an assessment? | ||
| Honestly, I don't think they have any idea what we just blew up at Ford Owl. | ||
| Let's keep in mind, three weeks ago, none of this was going on, and we weren't talking about doing it until the Israelis showed up and handed us a bunch of intel that we apparently did not have. | ||
| And so now they're driving the train, and they're the ones that tell us Ford Ow has to be blown up, and this is what's going on. | ||
| Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down. | ||
| Don't go too fast. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Israelis, because this is the big debate, right? | ||
| The Israelis showed up with intelligence we didn't have, correct? | ||
| Yeah, I don't, I mean, I get it that now people are attempting to turn this into a debate. | ||
| I don't see how it can be a debate. | ||
| We know what the written IC assessment was as of the end of March. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard delivered it to Congress, but what she read word for word was a prepared formal assessment by the entire intelligence community. | ||
| Said the Supreme Leader has not changed the decision that was made in 2003 to abandon a nuclear weapons program. | ||
| So were we concerned about it? | ||
| We were concerned about, were we allegedly watching it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was there any urgency? | ||
| No, because our assessment of our entire intelligence community was there is, as of this point, no Iranian effort to create a nuclear weapon, to operationalize it. | ||
| Okay, so that's where we were. | ||
| Three weeks ago, nobody was talking about bunker buster bombs, attacking Iran, regime change. | ||
| And then the Israelis showed up with intelligence that at this point still remains largely unknown and said we're on the cusp. | ||
| They're about to actually have more than one. | ||
| I think number has varied from nine to 12 operational nuclear weapons. | ||
| And sometimes they've made it sound like within days, as you've pointed out before. | ||
| Sometimes it sounds a lot longer. | ||
| But based on this intelligence that we did not have, apparently still don't have, apparently, according to Secretary Rubio, they still haven't shown us, we have now gone to the point where we are bombing sites. | ||
| We're bombing Ford. | ||
| Now, the fact that Ford had a whole bunch of centrifuges in it has been involved in the New York Russian. | ||
| I just want to make sure, because people are going to try to pick this apart, right? | ||
| We're a big defender of Israel. | ||
| People, bands flip. | ||
| Ain't flipped, folks. | ||
| But let me be brutally frank. | ||
| The United States of America and American citizens make decisions for the United States of America, full stop. | ||
| And we will not back off that one inch. | ||
| And if you don't like it, that's your problem, okay? | ||
| And we're going to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| We're going to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| We are going to get to the bottom of this, and we're going to get all the facts. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| But one thing in the interim from Tulsi, didn't the International Atomic Energy Thing did come out correct and make an assessment that they were working on fissile material to make 10 to 15 bombs? | ||
| Was that correct? | ||
| Yeah, and the IAEA has been kind of sounding that alarm for some time. | ||
| I mean, look, I think the Israelis are closer to the mark than we are, but it doesn't. | ||
| To me, the fundamental point here is we're steering now, making national security decisions at the highest level that affect the United States, affect American citizens. | ||
| And we are doing it based on intelligence passed to us by a foreign power. | ||
| And it appears to me, based on what Rubio said the other day, that we have not even been shown this intelligence. | ||
| Now, as you say, this is the United States of America. | ||
| The Israelis are allies. | ||
| But our decisions on behalf of our citizens, we have to make for ourselves and we have to make based on our own intelligence. | ||
| So the Israelis are telling us we got to bomb Ford. | ||
| I question everything about that. | ||
| If the Iranians are really as close to having a nuclear weapon as the Israelis suggest, then the enrichment activity that you would do at Ford is over. | ||
| I mean, taking it out will prevent them from enriching more uranium. | ||
| But they long since have done the work they needed to do at Ford if they're really within days. | ||
| And the program now would be being conducted in much smaller locations. | ||
| And the real issue would not be that they're in bunkers hundreds of feet under the ground. | ||
| The real issue would be it could be done almost anywhere in a commercial warehouse. | ||
| Finding them is the issue. | ||
| Okay, hang over a second because this is the, I'm going to get back to the bomb damage assessment. | ||
| And to me, the tell, the tell on Saturday night is why are we sending the Tomahawks to the third facility? | ||
| I thought it was all about Ford out. | ||
| Now we've got to send bunker busters to the second facility. | ||
| But the third facility, which is kind of above ground, I thought the Israelis had air supremacy. | ||
| I thought they had air superiority. | ||
| I thought they were doing combat sortie after combat sortie. | ||
| And since this is their number one objective is this, the nuclear power, the nuclear weapons program. | ||
| Number two is the ballistic missiles program. | ||
| Netanyahu yesterday said point blank, we're not going to get into a war of attrition. | ||
| When those are over, it's over. | ||
| I'm just quoting him. | ||
| But Jack Pesobic, Sam Hangover said, Jack Pesobic, we're constantly getting the upsell. | ||
| You get the false sense of urgency. | ||
| And maybe it's not false, but I'd like to see that information. | ||
| At least give us as much D-Class as you can. | ||
| Because Rubio, I think, I'm not sure they haven't seen some of it, but certainly haven't seen all of it to make an independent assessment. | ||
| But we're getting the sense of urgency, and we're getting an upsell. | ||
| The upsell is first regime change, right? | ||
| The second upsell today, folks, is to Sam's point, well, hang on. | ||
| Maybe they took the, maybe we got to find, since there was no, you know, nuclear fallout or radiation, right, and no seismic activity, right? | ||
| I'm just quoting the experts. | ||
| Now the Financial Times and the New York Times both come out almost at the same time with the same story. | ||
| Oh, well, now we've got to go hunt for the material itself. | ||
| That reads to me, not just Israeli commandos, it's get on the phone and call the 75th Ranger Battalion. | ||
| Let's get the 75th Ranger Battalion on the phone because I think we've got to send a couple of guys in there to find this stuff. | ||
| Am I wrong? | ||
| We're getting upsold, Jack Bosobic? | ||
| Yeah, Steve, it was interesting because the Washington Post wrote up our back and forth the other day, our diatribe, about the upsell, but they left out the part about the upsell being regime change. | ||
| I noticed that was very interesting because we've always been very clear about this, that President Trump has been focused on the nuclear program, but the upsell was to try to suck the United States in to say, well, you know, maybe it's just going to be a special operations rate. | ||
| Maybe it's just going to be a little bit, a couple of boots on the ground. | ||
| Not too many, just a couple of units, get some CAG in there, Delta Force, SEAL Team 6, get the boys out of DevGruve, get a little black squadron going down. | ||
| It'll be fine. | ||
| It'll be totally fine. | ||
| That was always the upsell. | ||
| Now, hold on a second, because President Trump told me, obliterated completely. | ||
| That's what my president said. | ||
| So if President Trump says it's obliterated completely, and the New York Times is pushing for all this, and we got a lot of questions about what actually went down here, because I'm going to take the word of my president who says obliterated completely. | ||
| So perfect strike, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| What they're trying to push for, and all these guys, Jack Keene, the Institute for the Study of War, which has been completely wrong about everything in Ukraine, by the way, the ISW, which Jack Keene runs, those are the guys telling you, oh, it's going to be one fell strike. | ||
| No, well, here we are three years later, and by the way, nobody's paying attention. | ||
| Russia is advancing in Ukraine right now. | ||
| Well, no one's looking. | ||
| No. | ||
| And the Chinese Communist Party is advancing in the South China Sea, all these shoals down there and little carriers. | ||
| Two carriers. | ||
| They're sending their fishing boats down there. | ||
| They're really naval craft. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We got Faddis. | ||
| We got Pesobic. | ||
| We got Dave Walsh. | ||
| Geopolitics, National Security, and the March to War. | ||
| Next in the war room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Birch Gold, you're going to get a little turbulence, although, and they're threatening to shut down the Straits of Hermoos, which is obviously for them. | ||
| Dave Walsh is going to be here, explaining the logic, because it would be absolute economic suicide for them. | ||
| I think. | ||
| Maybe I got this wrong too, but I don't think so. | ||
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| You get to Philip Patrick and the team now more than ever. | ||
| And I hope everybody did their homework assignment. | ||
| I know there was a ton of downloads on the end of the dollar empire as the BRICS nations that would be the global south head to Rio for the Rio reset. | ||
| Sam Fattish, your assessment. | ||
| Are we being upsold here? | ||
| Are we being upsold? | ||
| And by the way, as I've said a million times, if the Israelis want regime change, go for it. | ||
| If they want to go in and send people in to find the material, go for it. | ||
| It's their war. | ||
| They started it and they should finish what they started. | ||
| And hey, look, I think they've got the valor and the courage and IDF and the Israeli Air Force. | ||
| They punch way above their weight. | ||
| I think they got these guys maybe on the ropes. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Kamini, President Trump can't get a meeting for his negotiating time because the Ayatollah ain't taking calls because the guys that take calls end up dead. | ||
| Sam Fattis, your assessment. | ||
| And in the CIA, shouldn't we have our, I thought we paid, I don't know, a trillion dollars a year for all these 17 intelligence agencies. | ||
| We got everything in the world to have an independent assessment that came from people called Americans that had a perspective of the United States of America, sir. | ||
| Look, it is a given in any situation like this that you're going to have everybody in the world come out of the woodwork and try to use you for their intended purposes. | ||
| So yeah, we got the crown prince now who claims that he's going to ride back into Tehran on a white horse if we just back him and restore the monarchy. | ||
| What's the defense against that? | ||
| The defense against that is that your intelligence services do their job and you know what the heck is going on and you can't be plagued. | ||
| So with all respect to the Israelis who I've worked with extensively, it doesn't change the fact that they are representing Israel's interest and our interest in their do not coincide. | ||
| And are we in a position of, they do not coincide all the time. | ||
| So again, you have to have your own intelligence. | ||
| We are now in a position where they are driving the train. | ||
| They're telling us things and, you know, maybe they're true and maybe they aren't true and maybe there's a mix of all of the above and maybe they're just flat out wrong about some things and they believe they're true. | ||
| This is the maze of mirrors. | ||
| So we have to have our own eyes and ears and it is manifestly obvious we don't because again, three weeks ago, we didn't like what was going on in Iran, but there was no screaming emergency. | ||
| And now we're standing on the brink of tumbling out of control and this thing really becoming a major conflict. | ||
| Under a thousand over 40 years. | ||
| And every one of those lives are precious, right? | ||
| Including the Marines at the Marine barracks. | ||
| Even President Reagan says the single biggest mistake. | ||
| He admitted two mistakes in his presidency. | ||
| Doing the deal on amnesty, where they gave him amnesty first and never sealed the border. | ||
| And then the Marine barracks. | ||
| And as soon as he got him in there and died, he told Capron, get the hell out of there. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| We've got enough fight with the Russians. | ||
| We can't be doing this. | ||
| Jack Basobic, how's the upsell going to play out over the next couple of days? | ||
| And what information do we have to get this audience to make sure they understand they're being upsold, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, there's going to be a couple elements to this. | ||
| So let's keep in mind that the NATO conference takes place tomorrow at The Hague, and President Trump is currently scheduled to attend. | ||
| Now, we have heard the leaders of South Korea and Japan, the new president and then the prime minister, have both pulled out, citing unforeseen circumstances as well as Middle East instability as the reason they don't want to go. | ||
| Zelensky, of course, he's up there. | ||
| He's meeting with Prince, or excuse me, King Charles right now at the UK, and he's completely backed all of the action in Iran. | ||
| He's calling for potentially for regime change as well. | ||
| He wants the U.S. to get in there big because here's what the big play is. | ||
| Now, what else do you have going on in Europe right now? | ||
| The foreign minister of Iran, where is he? | ||
| He's in Moscow. | ||
| He's sitting down at the Kremlin right now as we speak with Vladimir Putin. | ||
| The video is coming out and they're saying we're going to deal with this jointly and the U.S. has conducted a legal activity, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| So what they're trying to do, Steve, is they want to put the Iran fight together. | ||
| This is what the EU wants, the European leaders. | ||
| They want to put Iran and Russia in the same bucket to get Trump to say, well, wait a minute, you've got to fight Russia too through Ukraine, couple three bombing runs, maybe over there on Russian troops in eastern Ukraine. | ||
| So now you've got, or excuse me, on Russian troops. | ||
| Yeah, Russian troops in eastern Ukraine. | ||
| So hold on, you've got to move from. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| But the Russians didn't back in the Chinese. | ||
| Nobody's come through it and said, hey, militarily, we're going to come in and Back off the Israelis. | ||
| I don't even think the Russians call for the Israelis. | ||
| What Putin said, didn't he say? | ||
| Hey, he says, I've got to play it kind of safe here. | ||
| Of the 9 million speakers in Israel. | ||
| Folks, take your number two pronouns and write this one down. | ||
| Besides the Ted Crucia known, there's roughly 190 some million or 100 million in Persia. | ||
| There are 2 million Russian-speaking Jewish people of the 9 million in Israel. | ||
| So he just can't pick a side. | ||
| I'm sure some of the people taking incoming and they're taking brutal incoming yesterday are Russian citizens. | ||
| So in taking our eye off the ball of the larger war, and yes, Fox News, we are in the Third World War. | ||
| We just don't want another battlefront right now because we got one here in the United States that we're not focused on enough. | ||
| We got another in the South China Sea that they're running the tables on. | ||
| I should duly note, South Korea canceled going to NATO this morning. | ||
| Japan did also, but South Korea, which is totally controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, that political party, announced they're not going to NATO. | ||
| They got other things they got to focus on, right? | ||
| And Japan announced they weren't going either. | ||
| I'd actually be surprised if the president actually attended. | ||
| I'm not so sure, given the threats, given the hot talk coming out of Tehran, the big talk, Jack, that I would send the president over to NATO right now. | ||
| If you need to talk to, first of all, those guys all bore him. | ||
| He was in Calgary, got bored, came back, right? | ||
| So how do we prevent the upsell from drawing us in more? | ||
| The issue before us is we did what President Trump said he would do is take down the nuclear program. | ||
| He said it's obliterated. | ||
| The Pentagon, I'm sure, is going to come out today or tomorrow and reinforce that this thing is knocked down because our military and their valor and their boldness knocked it down. | ||
| Our mission's finished, is it not, Jack? | ||
| I mean, the regime change is if the peacock throne guy that's been hanging out in cocktail parties in New York City and the Hamptons for 50 years hasn't lifted a finger to help free his people, if that brother's ready to roll, then, hey, he's Chalabay 2.0, do it. | ||
| Hey, that sounds great. | ||
| That sounds like an idea. | ||
| If the MEK want to team up with him and all these other revolutionary groups or outside groups, go with them. | ||
| But we should have nothing to do with that. | ||
| Am I incorrect, Jack Pasovic? | ||
| Well, Steve, not only that, another watchword to look for is moderates. | ||
| You're going to hear this. | ||
| This is going to be rolled out very soon. | ||
| They're going to say, well, there's moderate elements that perhaps we can try to reach out to. | ||
| And if we can get to the moderate elements, perhaps they'll depose the IRGC, they'll depose the leader, and the moderates will rise up. | ||
| And Steve, this was the same exact failed logic that led to what? | ||
| The third biggest scandal of the Reagan administration, Iran-Contra. | ||
| Remember this? | ||
| Robert McFarlane, oh, we're going to go to the moderates. | ||
| The moderate, they're going to work with us, and we're going to come together. | ||
| Everybody seems to have forgotten this. | ||
| We tried this. | ||
| We have tried all these things. | ||
| We tried to try to get the end of the fight. | ||
| And they tried to impeach all pale. | ||
| And they tried to impeach President Reagan. | ||
| Remember, I think they indicted Cap Winberry. | ||
| Sam Finn. | ||
| Sam Fatten. | ||
| Poor Cap became a felon, I think. | ||
| They had to pardon him later. | ||
| I totally, that one slipped. | ||
| Pardon him. | ||
| Hey, Sam Fattis, the hunt for the material, this is a big deal, right? | ||
| Because your point, it could be anywhere. | ||
| Who does the CIA normally in the military turn to? | ||
| I threw out 75th Ranger Battalion, but who would they go to? | ||
| Because when they talk about we got to find the material, am I missing it? | ||
| They're talking about boots on the ground, sir? | ||
| Well, if that's what they're talking about, we're totally screwed, Steve. | ||
| I mean, how should it work? | ||
| It should work that you should have all these guys. | ||
| Denver, put up the Financial Times and New York Times. | ||
| The two biggest stories in those papers today, which are the two dominant news sources in the world, is your point at the very beginning. | ||
| They think the Iranians pulled the stuff out beforehand because this thing was kind of telegraphed by the Israelis for a couple of weeks and pulled it out or pulled it out over time thinking it was a target. | ||
| And so let's assume for purposes of discussion, the times and the financial times are right. | ||
| What happens to go find it? | ||
| Yeah, well, I think we know that there were trucks running in and out of Ford over the course of days. | ||
| There's a question there why we didn't just bomb those or the Israelis didn't bomb those. | ||
| So we know a whole bunch of stuff left Fordow. | ||
| That's fact. | ||
| How should you hunt it? | ||
| You should hunt it with clandestine assets, which is what the CIA is supposed to have inside Iran, which is what we did in Iraq when the bombing campaign started and they all displaced to unmarked locations. | ||
| We followed them with teams on the ground and gave us GPS cords and put JDAMs through the roof. | ||
| We apparently don't have any human sources in Iran that are worth anything. | ||
| So yeah, now, are you talking about putting actual, you know, whether it's the Ranger Regiment or whether it's other tier one units, you're talking about putting uniformed American personnel on the ground? | ||
| I mean, come on, we know. | ||
| I worked with those guys. | ||
| They're great, but you know how that ends, that you do not stay undetected. | ||
| It ends badly. | ||
| Jack, Sam Fetta said the magic word, tier one. | ||
| What are you? | ||
| Oh my God, what were we getting? | ||
| Folks, this is the way you get sucked in. | ||
| Give me, what's tier one? | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
| WMDs. | ||
| Yeah, WMDs and WMD material doctrine is that that's going to be your tier one element. | ||
| My bias is always Navy. | ||
| So, you know, it's always kind of a jump ball there. | ||
| But, you know, looking at a situation like that, with the Navy element, you could have DevGrew go in. | ||
| But since you're talking about WMD material and potentially bomb-making material, because again, the intelligence, I haven't seen it. | ||
| I haven't touched any of this, but there's been a lot of questions about triggers. | ||
| There's been a lot of questions about delivery systems. | ||
| So you're going to need a tier one element. | ||
| So either DevGrew or Delta Force, but you're going to need an EOD. | ||
| You're going to need the EOD element attached to that so that they can deal with whatever situation they find on the ground there. | ||
| If they are actually going in and need to render something safe or to confiscate or et cetera, et cetera, Whatever you're talking about, because again, if this is fissile material, you're talking tier one operators minimum, minimum, if you're going to be sending U.S. boots on the ground. | ||
| And yes, to Sam's point, of course, you're going to need to locate this first through intelligence, and that also includes human intelligence. | ||
| Look, you know, you've got to pay off guys on the ground, you got to need people there. | ||
| Presumably, Massad has had all these elements that were able to find all these sites and all these groups. | ||
| Dev Group, you're talking about SEAL team, SEAL team, you're saying SEAL Team 6. SEAL Team 6 with EOD, EOD, the frogmen, DOD, the bomb squad that was so brave in Iraq. | ||
| So you got EOD elements or new Delta 4. Yeah, let's not get in that Army, Navy fight. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| You two guys hang on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've got Dave Walsh. | ||
| We're going to talk a little oil. | ||
| We've got our two Intel guys, Jack Basovic and Sam. | ||
| I really appreciate Sam taking the time away today to join us. | ||
| He's a safe pair of hands and wrote one of the best books ever about the Central Intelligence Agency. | ||
| We can get that up in the next break. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| Number one, Birch Gold in Times of Turbulence. | ||
| Why is gold a hedge? | ||
| It's not the price, not the price today or tomorrow. | ||
| It's the process that drives it. | ||
| This is why if you go back when we first started doing this in the show, that the price of gold then and the price of gold now, we were there to teach you how to think about it. | ||
| That's what Birch Gold wants to do. | ||
| So make sure you go get the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| We got the seventh free installment about the BRICS nations and what they're planning on doing. | ||
| And I think they're planning on doing a lot. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party, keep the main thing, the main thing. | ||
| And I understand that this is a front against the CCP, but we got to rank order those fronts. | ||
| Number one here, the fentanyl killing over a million Americans, not under a thousand. | ||
| Let's prioritize Fox News. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| You can't because Murdoch and his relationship with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
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| Artificial intelligence. | ||
| I have MTG and Mike Davis on here about something in the Big Beautiful Bill. | ||
| So both of those are going to come in the next hour. | ||
| Also, Harmee Dylan. | ||
| We're trying to get her over at the Justice Department as we're going to sit there and say, we're just not going to get sucked in and focus on all this. | ||
| Jack, give me a minute on what you need to see from Pete and the guys, Corrilla, the gorilla from CENCOM and Raising Kane today. | ||
| What types of elements would you like to see to make sure we get a great picture here as we say we stand relieved, right? | ||
| The Israelis relieved the watch. | ||
| We want to have a complete turnover. | ||
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| Well, Steve, when it comes down to this, you know, as a prior intelligence officer and someone who's looked at these types of situations before, when you're conducting battle damage assessments, some of the things you're going to look at, they're not just going to be these commercial imagery photos that we're seeing from Maxar and others. | ||
| The United States intelligence community, of course, has every eye in the sky on a strike like this, you would have every single intelligence satellite, spy satellite, focus directly on every facility that was being hit, particularly Fordo, because of its extreme distance, extreme depth beneath the surface of that mountain. | ||
| So we've got all sorts of capabilities up there to see into this from an intelligence perspective. | ||
| And if the president wanted to, he could declassify this or other elements could be declassified as well. | ||
| So we're not just looking at basic satellite imagery of, say, those sites and those tunnels. | ||
| By the way, we've got, if you want to look inside a tunnel, we've got satellites that can shoot on an angle and they can get right into that tunnel. | ||
| So those trucks looking up to this, you would have had satellites that were tracking every single truck, what was being done, what was being put onto them. | ||
| Plus, you've got synthetic aperture radar. | ||
| You've got things that can look deep inside these mountains. | ||
| We've got all sorts of ability to look into this, to measure what's going on. | ||
| Infrared, we've got drones. | ||
| We've got all the rest to really track this down. | ||
| The Israelis got drones all over the place. | ||
| They've got drones all over the place. | ||
| Yeah, they've got drones all over the place. | ||
| They've been doing drone war and winning into Iran. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| Dave Walsh. | ||
| Make me smart. | ||
| The president sends out a tweet today going wild. | ||
| Then he says, drill, baby, drill. | ||
| What is the president's issue today with oil, the straits of Hormuz in the Persians, sir? | ||
| Well, he's worried about the Hormuz rates being blocked for a while. | ||
| Prices, by the way, seem to be down 0.6% so far today, $72 ballpark. | ||
| But with that said, he's doing the job owning thing. | ||
| The president tries to do, try to get ExxonMobil, Chevron, Occidental, Marathon, Chesapeake to do something they have never done before for 55 years in this country, never done before. | ||
| And that is, guess what? | ||
| Let's not match OPEC and world oil prices. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| They're going to match world oil prices. | ||
| In part, one reason we have never taken on OPEC. | ||
| We have decided the case. | ||
| Hold it. | ||
| Slow down. | ||
| Slow down. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| What did you just say? | ||
| I want the audience to understand it because I don't. | ||
| Walk me through that again. | ||
| No, he's attempting to jawbone through social media the major oil producers in this country to please don't go along with world oil prices that, okay, Deutsche Bank is forecasting are going to go from a range of 85 to 120 bucks possibly for the time period that the Straits of Hormuz may be blocked. | ||
| We buy precious little oil that comes from that source. | ||
| Only like 7% of our imports, which are almost nil to begin with, come from there. | ||
| What he's concerned with is global pricing going to 85, 120 bucks, from which we benefit massively, by the way, as our major export commodity. | ||
| But consumers here will be punished if that happens because these companies will raise prices to match what happens globally and the demand they get globally to displace the 20 million barrels a day that comes from the sections of the Middle East that are furnished through the Hormone Straits. | ||
| So he's jawboning our domestic industry to try to hold prices in line. | ||
| Don't go along with the bad guys. | ||
| That's not going to work. | ||
| As they always have, they'll track prices with OPEC and the rest of the world to wherever the global markets go. | ||
| And right now, the assessment of Deutsche Bank, for example, is we might be headed to 85 low to 120 high based on this hormone straights impact for as long as it may last. | ||
| But it is, to Rubio's point, absolute suicide. | ||
| But hang on, hang on. | ||
| 80% of their cash flow comes from what they sell to Chinese. | ||
| And we see Malaysia and all the stuff. | ||
| Those are all fronts for the Persians selling it to the Chinese. | ||
| Persians sell them a million and a half to two and a half, maybe three million barrels a day. | ||
| Why would you, being a sailor that's happened to sail a combatant into the Straits of Hormuz, why would the Iranians want to close it? | ||
| If you close it, aren't they cutting, aren't they slitting their own throat? | ||
| This is the logic I don't get. | ||
| What's the strategic logic here for why they would even do it? | ||
| Yeah, it does appear on the surface to be suicidal as a move for them because you're talking about the 2 million barrels a day going to China all flow that way from them, $100 million a day of revenue for them. | ||
| They're desperate. | ||
| They're isolated. | ||
| They're cut off. | ||
| They're basically looking for a sympathy play through this process of attempting to congeal China support, Korea support, especially. | ||
| And they would cut off Europe. | ||
| Europe would be done. | ||
| If you cut off straight to Hermuz, Europe gets no oil, right? | ||
| Large supply to Europe. | ||
| Way more than here. | ||
| Yes, substantial. | ||
| Substantial. | ||
| But they want to try to congeal Qatar and the kingdom with that also. | ||
| Because they're better. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Kingdom, UAE, Qatar. | ||
| Okay, I got it. | ||
| But I'm going to need some more time with you. | ||
| Pozo, you got to go. | ||
| Sam Fettis, I'm going to ask you to stick. | ||
| Pozo, social media, the show, you're up here at 2 o'clock. | ||
| Your social media is on fire, taking incoming sometimes, but giving as good as you get. | ||
| Where do you go, Pozo, for you? | ||
| Well, people are more than happy to step right up to come get me at social media. | ||
| If you want to follow me, just go watch NBC, Washington Post, Jon Stewart, The Daily Show. | ||
| They're all coming after Pozo, and I'm more than happy to take it on because as a Philly guy, that's what we do. | ||
| So yeah, we're going to be up. | ||
| We've got the great Matt Boyle from Breitbard Arm. | ||
| We're going to be talking all things political because there's a domestic agenda here as well. | ||
| Deportations, the big beautiful bill, all the rest of it. | ||
| You know, we've got some borders that we ought to worry about here at home, too, by the way. | ||
| Mass deportations, the leading front. | ||
| Posta, where do people go for your social media? | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| At Jack Pesobic, Truth Gatter Social Telegram. |
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