May 29, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Now, I'm going to count this as a highlight recently. | ||
| I know the work that you've done. | ||
| You're really one of the people that are moving AI. | ||
| And now it's an opportunity. | ||
| I was excited to meet you. | ||
| And now people ask me if you're going to talk about AI. | ||
| And now I get to ask you. | ||
| I mean, like the literal, the expert. | ||
| You know, some people are worried about AI or whatever, and I'm like, you know, what about the singularity? | ||
| So, you know, the people like that, if you would address that, please. | ||
| Thank you, Senator, for the kind words and for normalizing hoodies in more spaces. | ||
| I'd love to see that. | ||
| I am incredibly excited about the rate of progress, but I also am cautious, and I would say, like, I don't know. | ||
| I feel small next to it or something. | ||
| I think this is beyond something that we all fully yet understand where it's going to go. | ||
| This is, I believe, among the biggest, maybe it'll turn out to be the biggest technological revolutions humanity will have ever produced. | ||
| And I feel privileged to be here. | ||
| I feel curious and interested in what's going to happen. | ||
| But I do think things are going to change quite substantially. | ||
| I think humans have a wonderful ability to adapt, and things that seem amazing will become the new normal very quickly. | ||
| We'll figure out how to use these tools to just do things we could never do before. | ||
| And I think it will be quite extraordinary. | ||
| But these are going to be tools that are capable of things that we can't quite wrap our heads around. | ||
| And some people call that... | ||
| Some people call that singularity. | ||
| Some people call that the takeoff. | ||
| Whatever it is, it feels like a sort of new era of human history. | ||
| And I think it's tremendously exciting that we get to live through that and we can make it a wonderful thing. | ||
| But we've got to approach it with humility and some caution. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| Thursday, 29 May, Year of Our Lord, 2025. | ||
| Fetterman and man, Joe Allen, myself and others, we used to get on that guy being the cyborg, remember? | ||
| half computer, half man. | ||
| In his struggle, He's the first guy to use the S-word, singularity. | ||
| And Altman, Joe Allen, did an amazing job of not even not answering the question, kind of tiptoeing back off the question. | ||
| The singularity is a convergence point on this, and it's artificial intelligence, AGI, because that's kind of the lead sled dog pulling the sled, but it ain't the only sled dog. | ||
| You've got CRISPR, gene slicing, quantum computing, advanced chip design, regenerative robotics, all of it. | ||
| That all merged with the singularity. | ||
| On this side of it is you, me. | ||
| The species called Homo sapiens that have been around, I don't know, kind of for a while. | ||
| And on the other side, it is Homo sapien 1.5 or 2.0. | ||
| You pick it. | ||
| But it ain't you. | ||
| It's something else. | ||
| And that something else is going to be the biggest sociological, cultural, civilizational, financial, economic, geopolitical, | ||
| What did Christ himself warn his inner circle when he sent them out to start to practice, to implement what he was teaching them? | ||
| And they went out and they came back and said that we did heal the sick. | ||
| Have the lame walk and the blind see and all of it. | ||
| And they were amazed themselves that they were doing it. | ||
| It was channeling through them. | ||
| And they said, well, hang on, there's a problem, though. | ||
| They're not saying you're the greatest guy in the world. | ||
| They're saying you're actually Beelzebub and we're like black magicians. | ||
| And what did he say? | ||
| Because what was channeling through them was not just him. | ||
| It was the Holy Spirit, which if you read the Gospel of Mark, every time you see the Spirit is in him, it comes from John the Baptist in the river. | ||
| All the way through. | ||
| The whole gospel of power, the first one written by, I don't know, a guy who was an eyewitness, Mark, who was the secretary for Peter, who was a fisherman that Christ our Lord put the whole deal on, said, hey, look, when I'm gone, you're the guy. | ||
| So, you know, you're the rock. | ||
| And he shows you. | ||
| And what's the one warning Christ gave? | ||
| What's the one sin that Christ himself said was unforgivable, was mortal and unforgivable? | ||
| And when Christ tells you something's unforgivable, I think you ought to take your number two pencil out and write that down. | ||
| In all the Gospels, one thing he says is unforgivable to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. | ||
| Do you think the Holy Spirit is involved with Altman and Musk? | ||
| And Dario in this crowd, and all the ruts at the biotech labs with CRISPR, and gene splicing, and regenerative robotics, making these humanoid robotics, you think that that is imbued with the Holy Spirit? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I've seen these guys in action. | ||
| They're the exact opposite. | ||
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These are the, they're nihilist, atheist. | |
| And what they believe and what they're focused on for themselves is eternal life. | ||
| Not eternal life that comes from the taproot of the Judeo-Christian West and is anchored in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and a certain belief in the moral physics of this universe. | ||
| It's the exact opposite. | ||
| And you saw Altman right there. | ||
| Thank God Fetterman asked that question. | ||
| And Altman didn't want to touch it. | ||
| Joe Allen, your thoughts? | ||
| Now, Steve, you've got me thinking theologically. | ||
| You know, I've pondered your statement on this many, many times. | ||
| Hey, let me jump in here. | ||
| I'm not particularly churchy, you know, but look, the deal's the deal. | ||
| You read it, you either believe it or you don't. | ||
| If you don't believe it, fine. | ||
| It's a free country and a free world. | ||
| Not only don't they believe it, they believe the exact opposite. | ||
| And they're executing a plan that is the exact opposite. | ||
| And it's time we have the Great Awakening, which first was the political about the globalists and what was happening and the pandemic and the vaccines and all of it. | ||
| And World Health Organization, this Great Awakening or getting red-pilled. | ||
| This is the real Great Awakening. | ||
| This is where you're going to have the spiritual revolution in this country to realize, hey, this is the fight. | ||
| What Fetterman asked right there, hey, tell me about this concept of the singularity. | ||
| And Waltman's touching around, well, it could be the greatest thing. | ||
| I don't know if we can do it. | ||
| And his little brain is going, hey, don't touch this one because you're going to give fuel to the modern Luddites. | ||
| Joe Allen. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I think if people really understood the implications of the singularity, most would reject it. | ||
| I mean, you see already. | ||
| In public polling, most people in America are already pretty unenthusiastic about AI. | ||
| In fact, most people, according to a recent Pew survey, are much more inclined to think of the dangers of AI than the benefits, and I think rightly so. | ||
| This singularity concept has been pointed out many times. | ||
| It is a materialist inversion of the spiritual concept of the apocalypse, of the revelation, of the end of the world giving way to a kingdom of heaven. | ||
| This is why Ray Kurzweil chose the title, The Singularity is Near. | ||
| It's a mirror, a black mirror, of the kingdom of heaven is near. | ||
| And Altman and Musk and Dario Amadei and all of them, they all have some version of that guiding the production and deployment of these technologies. | ||
| And, you know, I hear a lot from people, AI looks like the Antichrist. | ||
| And as I detailed in the book, and, you know, just trying to riff off a very common conception here, AI as antichrist. | ||
| Anti is... | ||
| So what is in place of Christ? | ||
| Well, you're talking about making the blind see. | ||
| You're talking about making the lame walk. | ||
| You're talking about conferring this immaterial, kind of supernatural knowledge or wisdom. | ||
| You're talking about creating a system that could control the whole world. | ||
| That is, if you just take it from a purely symbolic standpoint, that is an Antichrist at the very least. | ||
| So when you hear Altman dancing around the singularity as a concept, you know, in some interviews he'll be more explicit. | ||
| that he was much more forthcoming before he was in the public spotlight. | ||
| And what he ultimately sees happening is, All these guys, Musk, all of them see something like this. | ||
| First, AI is a tool that you use. | ||
| Next, AI is a kind of teacher. | ||
| It is giving you information. | ||
| It's teaching your kids, maybe an entire generation. | ||
| AI is a companion. | ||
| It is someone you can trust. | ||
| It's someone you confide in. | ||
| It is a creature. | ||
| It is something like AI, in their conception, is becoming something like a creature, like an animal, or like another human being, or like a soul, a God-created soul. | ||
| And finally, at the peak of all this, they see AI as a God, or perhaps, if they can make one powerful enough, the God. | ||
| Because they don't believe it in general. | ||
| They don't believe in a supernatural higher power. | ||
| They believe we're on a dirt ball floating around in space by ourselves. | ||
| And so what we have to do is first play God, tinker with the genome, tinker with the human culture, tinker with the human brain, and then perhaps the best or wealthiest among us can become gods, and out on the extreme end, they want to build a God that they believe never existed. | ||
| Why are we being so much on this? | ||
| It's not about the apocalypse that's coming for a white-collar job. | ||
| If you listen to the four horsemen of the apocalypse, was it Dario, Musk, Altman? | ||
| Who's the fourth guy? | ||
| It's the Google guy, right? | ||
| Who's the fourth guy? | ||
| You know, Demis Isavis or maybe Zuckerberg. | ||
| No, no, Zuckerberg. | ||
| He and the Google guys. | ||
| We'll give you a theory of Google and meta. | ||
| I'm talking about the four horsemen of the apocalypse. | ||
| They talk right now about the Big Bang. | ||
| That this is the big bang time for artificial intelligence. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| This is where it's going to go. | ||
| And the acceleration is what they intend. | ||
| And they're using the CCP. | ||
| They're saying, hey, the CCP is so far ahead of us. | ||
| You can't stop us. | ||
| If we do it, you're going to have this a Sputnik moment. | ||
| We're going to be overwhelmed. | ||
| Well, hold it. | ||
| My answer is what President Trump's trying to do. | ||
| Cut him off from technology. | ||
| Cut him off from all American capital. | ||
| I don't mean some of it. | ||
| I mean all of it. | ||
| You talk about a national security issue. | ||
| This is 10X fentanyl, and fentanyl is like the worst thing. | ||
| It's a chemical warfare attack that's worse than the mustard gas in the trenches of World War I. Let me leave you. | ||
| On a Thursday morning in May, I hate to quote the apocalypse, the book of Revelation, according to St. John. | ||
| And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder. | ||
| And one of the four beasts saying, come and see. | ||
| Remember, that's the mantra that's in the entire Revelations. | ||
| Come and see. | ||
| That's where we stand now. | ||
| It sure is the turning of the earth. | ||
| This is going to be the most fundamental, radical transformation in all human history going back to the absolute beginning. | ||
| And what you have is the most irresponsible people. | ||
| Doing it for, one, their own efforts for eternal life because they do not believe in the underlying tenets of the Judeo-Christian West and also for money and power. | ||
| It must be stopped, slowed down, and put in the control of humans and not the four horsemen of the apocalypse. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to continue on. | ||
| We're also going to get into trade. | ||
| We'll be getting your receipts from the sublime To the less sublime. | ||
| on a Thursday morning in the world. | ||
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And I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder. | |
| One of the four beasts saying, come and see. | ||
| And I saw, and behold... | ||
| a white horse there's a man going around taking names and he decides who to free And who to blame? | ||
| Everybody won't be treated all the same. | ||
| There'll be a golden ladder reaching down when the man comes around. | ||
| The hair's on your arm. | ||
| We'll stand up at the terror in each hip and in each top. | ||
| Will you partake of that last suffered cup? | ||
| Oh, disappear into the potter's ground, when the man comes around. | ||
| Hear the trumpets, hear the piper, 100 million angels singing, my heart. | ||
| Multitudes are marching to that big kettle drum. | ||
| Voices calling, voices crying. | ||
| Some are born and some are dying. | ||
| It's Alpha and Omega's kingdom come. | ||
| And the whirlwind is in the bone tree. | ||
| The virgins are all trimming their wings. | ||
| From the Gospel, from the, excuse me, this is from the Book of Revelation, the Apocalypse according to St. John the Evangelist, written in Turkey. | ||
| The last book of the New Testament. | ||
| You read the whole thing from the beginning, from the Old Testament, all the way through. | ||
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You see an ark. | |
| Right. | ||
| Hey, I'm definitely not some churchy guy, but... | ||
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The warnings are pretty plain. | |
| And all these people running around. | ||
| Right now you've got a big bang. | ||
| They're talking about it. | ||
| Look at the people. | ||
| Look at the horses driving this. | ||
| You feel comfortable with that? | ||
| You feel comfortable with that? | ||
| When you're talking about the stakes that are here? | ||
| Because it's all part of the same. | ||
| The same fight you've had to take your country back, the same fight we've had as populist nationalists, right? | ||
| The same fight you see going into the arc of instability. | ||
| The same things we talk about every day, these budgets, the spending, out of control, an elite apparatus that will not listen to the American people and particularly will not listen to and is quite dismissive of MAGA. | ||
| Well, I get a different opinion. | ||
| I happen to think MAGA's been on the cutting edge of warning and using human agency to bend the arc of history in this country. | ||
| And your greatest fights are in front of you. | ||
| And I realize a lot of people are tired. | ||
| Hey, it's so, you know, the precinct strategy and everything you do, hey, he's so tired. | ||
| Trump won. | ||
| It's all perfect. | ||
| Well, Trump won, and it's not perfect. | ||
| It's damn good. | ||
| And directionally, it's unbelievable of what he's doing. | ||
| And this is why I say consistently, General Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Donald Trump, one at the birth of the nation, the second at the rebirth of the nation, and the third at the rejuvenation of the nation. | ||
| And just at this time, and there ain't no coincidences, in the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord and Bunker Hill, And eventually, the Declaration of Independence and the entire long war, Trump is back. | ||
| That's because this is providential. | ||
| And yes, I realize we've got to get down into the dirt and get the grease under your fingernails of all the details. | ||
| The reason you guys are so powerful is the use of human agency. | ||
| That's what they're trying to take from you. | ||
| Don't think this agentic, when they talk about agentic, that's not... | ||
| Their pitching is going to augment your human agency. | ||
| That is not what it's due, is to suck your human agency out of you, give it to a digital avatar, and have you lay around like if you read about in Constantinople, the Byzantine Empire, what they laid around all day, right, with the harems and just all of it. | ||
| Not hitting a lick, not using their human agency, the decadence that... | ||
| This is what's been the big fight. | ||
| Remember, as always, they're like Oriental despots. | ||
| Joe Allen, thoughts and observations. | ||
| You know, this concept of the singularity Singularity is the moment beyond which human beings, as we exist today, can't comprehend what's happening all around them. | ||
| A great piece to read is really the seminal piece on the singularity by Werner Venge, 1993 paper, The Coming Technological Singularity. | ||
| Presented to NASA. | ||
| And he describes a world of technological control in which human beings would be to future beings as goldfish are to us. | ||
| Just sitting in your goldfish bowl, looking around, no clue whatsoever what's happening. | ||
| And this concept is basically a Big Bang. | ||
| It's a recap. | ||
| Of the Big Bang. | ||
| The Big Bang was a singularity that exploded then into multiplicity. | ||
| And that's the concept that guys, these four horsemen you're talking about, Sam Altman, Elon Musk, Sundar Pinchai, they are working from this, like, basically a religious idea from purely materialist foundations. | ||
| Their first principles, almost down to the last man, Peter Thiel being a big exception. | ||
| They're purely atheistic. | ||
| So when you think about this singularity, when Sam Altman is dancing around the singularity, what they're talking about is a total transformation of everything that we know. | ||
| And it comes along with a sales pitch. | ||
| I mean, all this really is a sales pitch, but it's the weirdest sales pitch you could ever imagine. | ||
| The sales pitch is AI will make you smarter. | ||
| AI will cure cancer. | ||
| AI will allow you to flourish economically. | ||
| AI will allow you, baby, to live forever. | ||
| We'll allow you to become a god. | ||
| Oh, also, AI may take control and kill everyone you know. | ||
| It's a very strange and morbid way of going about this. | ||
| By the way, that historic paper in 1993, NASA went out of its way to make sure they didn't promulgate that, okay? | ||
| I'm not saying they classified it top secret, but they didn't put it on the front of Scientific American. | ||
| Let's go to Brian Costello, your practitioner as a venture capitalist. | ||
| Talk to me about the efficiency model versus the productivity or creative model, because it looks to me like the white-collar apocalypse. | ||
| Jobs apocalypse we're heading down is purely the efficiency model, sir. | ||
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Yeah, you have to. | |
| So I look at it less philosophically and in two ways, tactically, how things are playing out now, right? | ||
| So if you look, there can be the efficiency model of AI, which we're seeing. | ||
| And I think the free market is going to naturally migrate to that, which is not good because that ends up taking jobs. | ||
| Give you an example. | ||
| You're seeing venture capital firms now. | ||
| By accounting firms and law firms. | ||
| Obviously, the strategy there is then to use AI to get more leverage in the firm and you'll eventually have AI and not accounting doing your taxes, right? | ||
| And the agentic part of that, the agents are just starting to roll out now. | ||
| And Dario and Sam Altman have good visibility into that. | ||
| But I also go to the other side where I don't think we don't have a choice. | ||
| There isn't just four horsemen. | ||
| In the US, our huge comparative advantage as a country is software development, and machines are now very good at software development. | ||
| So it takes away one of our huge comparative advantages as a country. | ||
| So we have to look at the strategic side of AI. | ||
| Where do we do things in AI and formulate things in AI that actually benefit the country? | ||
| Here's one example: robots, autonomous trucking. | ||
| One of the reasons we got out of the mining business as a country was it's dangerous. | ||
| People die, right? | ||
| They don't like going into mines. | ||
| We started to get out of it. | ||
| We didn't just hand it to China over that. | ||
| that was also the cost of it. | ||
| So if we're gonna get back into critical mineral- They didn't give a damn about the miners' lives. | ||
| It was the environmentalists. | ||
| care about that you think they cared about the uh... | ||
| They didn't care about miners. | ||
| Look at what happened in West Virginia a couple of years ago. | ||
| They didn't give a damn. | ||
| They leveraged up the mines, right? | ||
| And then took away all the safety. | ||
| I didn't say only reasons. | ||
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I didn't say only reasons. | |
| I said one of the reasons. | ||
| One of the irrelevant reasons. | ||
| One of the irrelevant reasons was miner safety. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| That's the same argument. | ||
| You guys can't make this argument, oh, autonomous trucks, like, who can't... | ||
| This is the thing with Elon Musk and autonomous trucks. | ||
| What is the problem? | ||
| Truck drivers are a problem? | ||
| We've got to get rid of them? | ||
| Who demanded autonomous trucks? | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Who demanded robot cars? | ||
| Is it because we've got too many people earning a living being Uber drivers and taxi drivers? | ||
| This is where they force things into the system and all of a sudden they want you to go, "Oh, I gotta have a robotic taxi. | ||
| Why the hell you need a robotic taxi? | ||
| Your Uber driver's not good enough. | ||
| Your taxi driver's not good enough. | ||
| Your truck driver's not good enough." One of the reasons they want to gut it, the truck drivers are one of the backbones of the country and have been the backbone of the country. | ||
| They want to make sure they ain't put up with truck drivers, just like they didn't want to put up with coal miners. | ||
| Not because of the safety. | ||
| Because that's that Scotch-Irish. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| Man, I got to reprogram. | ||
| You see what happens? | ||
| These guys get into AI and they get twisted. | ||
| Costello's my guy. | ||
| He gets in there and he starts giving this pablum. | ||
| Brother, take a short commercial break. | ||
| Take your phone out. | ||
| Times of turbulence. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, my man Brian Costello, the leading guy that's exposed Sequoia Capital for the Chinese Communist Party operation they are, is currently having a standing eight count. | ||
| He'll rejoin us in a moment with artificial intelligence. | ||
| I go to Dan Epstein. | ||
| Help me make sense of what happened last night with these judges because I'm hearing from other sources that this is not just a speed bump. | ||
| This is a chop block to President Trump in his reassuring efforts to revitalize and rejuvenate America as a manufacturing superpower. | ||
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Yeah, no, thank you, Stephen. | |
| I love what you do here. | ||
| I love the message. | ||
| It's really important. | ||
| You know, I think we should start from a general proposition of what the Constitution allows the president to do. | ||
| And when you look at... | ||
| This is really the clause that it's about the people's rights. | ||
| And it's not just a general welfare clause. | ||
| It's also a common defense clause. | ||
| And what that means is that when Congress authorizes the president to respond to emergencies, he has substantial inherent enforcement power to determine how to resolve those emergencies. | ||
| And what the court seems to ignore is that the president very carefully through executive action started. | ||
| His ad valerum tariffs on China, Canada, and Mexico by looking at enormous amounts of human trafficking, by looking at the trafficking of fentanyl. | ||
| And the court just kind of brushes that aside and goes into very technical examinations of, you know, did Congress really delegate this power to the president? | ||
| Did the president go beyond his powers? | ||
| And that's not the question. | ||
| The question is, did the president determine that there was a national emergency? | ||
| And when he determined that there was a national emergency, did he use statutory authority in responding to those emergencies to advance the common defense? | ||
| And the answer to all those questions is yes. | ||
| The Court of International Trade's judgment is clearly something that the presidential administration is going to look at to appeal. | ||
| And importantly, the hope is that the federal circuit sees the president very validly and accurately responded to an emergency based off clearly authorized legislative powers. | ||
| This isn't a question of some kind of regulatory discretion. | ||
| This is committed to his discretion as the chief law enforcement. | ||
| Dan, hang on for a second, because they're two sides of the same coin. | ||
| As commander-in-chief about the invasion, And repelling the invasion by sealing the border but also starting to ship people that came here, illegal alien invaders, back home because we're hung up in court there and headed to the Supreme Court. | ||
| Now on the trade side where they declared a national emergency about the human trafficking and particularly the chemical warfare attack of fentanyl from the Chinese Communist Party, the cartels, and also coming through Canada. | ||
| They're both about his Article II powers as commander-in-chief. | ||
| One, do you think we made the case? | ||
| I think we've made the case quite strongly. | ||
| There's some guys in the deep state that are trying to leak we didn't on the first, on the invasion. | ||
| Do you think the administration has given all the information and made a case that's rock solid about the emergency on the human trafficking and the fentanyl, which is the predicate for these emergency measures, sir? | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| And I think you hit the nail on the head that protecting the border is substantially related to the president's determinations about trade, about intercepting dangerous drugs that are harming this country. | ||
| The administration has made the arguments. | ||
| They have carefully outlined through executive actions how there is a national emergency at the border. | ||
| There is a national emergency when it comes to trade. | ||
| The administration has done that job. | ||
| They've done it better than prior administrations. | ||
| They just look at Obama without having any reasoned analysis to DACA. | ||
| And this time, we have a president who's very carefully done that. | ||
| And here's the reality. | ||
| The Constitution, as you point out, Article II, gives the president discretion as to how he carries out his foreign affairs powers. | ||
| And when this is especially the case, when there's a clear national emergency. | ||
| And nothing in this court decision, nothing that the Supreme Court can say challenges the idea that the president is determined that there is a national emergency. | ||
| The American people have determined that there is a national emergency, and we need to give the president substantial enforcement discretion in how to respond to this on behalf of the general welfare of all Americans. | ||
| And This is what Lincoln argued about the Emancipation Proclamation when he says it was an executive order. | ||
| And they said, well, you know, he says, hey, I gave the people in this country 18 months to chew it over, and then they voted me back in office with a landslide. | ||
| And that's why he was so adamant about getting the amendments about ending slavery. | ||
| This goes all the way back to Lincoln, both the writ of habeas corpus and this emergency on the tariff side. | ||
| They've asked for a stay. | ||
| Walk our audience through, because it's kind of confusing. | ||
| You're at a three-judge panel on trade. | ||
| Does this now kick into federal court? | ||
| Do we go through that process? | ||
| Where do we go from here? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I thought this kind of was the appeals court for trade. | ||
| What's the process from here? | ||
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Typically, when you have a three-judge panel, and most Court of National Trade decisions are determined by single judges, I think the administration is clearly determining, do we go up on cert? | |
| And that's something that is usually why you get to stay. | ||
| You mean right to the Supreme Court on this? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's right, Steve. | ||
| So when U.S. district courts have three-judge panels, they're effectively acting. | ||
| As a U.S. Court of Appeals decision-making, decision-maker. | ||
| And so the next step after that is cert. | ||
| You have no kind of en banc remedy here. | ||
| It's going up, and it's saying to the Supreme Court, listen, this district court decision is constitutionally improper. | ||
| And so they're going to ask for a stay. | ||
| I take it they're going to court and ask for a 30 day stay or something until they get this organized. | ||
| Is that what you see as the next tactical step? | ||
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Yeah, I mean, you know, that's that's a typical time period for a stay request. | |
| They could request longer. | ||
| The administration in some cases has requested longer because, you know, whether they are looking to settle or in most cases looking to appeal. | ||
| And that's something that I think in this case, you know, they want to. | ||
| To carefully examine the opinion and say, what do we think our best argument is? | ||
| And so you're going to have, if you ask for cert, correct me if I'm wrong, you're going to be essentially the Supreme Court with his powers as commander in chief to repel the invasion and to deport the invaders and at the same time about the chemical warfare attack and his solution for that. | ||
| Is that essentially what the Supreme Court, if they go for cert, is going to have in front of them? | ||
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Yeah, and I think you've really identified that there's this tension because the Supreme Court's not going to necessarily want to say, Well, the president has enforcement discretion on protecting the border, but he lacks that when it comes to tariffs or when it comes to his exercising imposts on intercepting foreign goods, particularly dangerous goods. | |
| And I think really one of the things that the administration argued, and I think it's right, is to say, why do the federal courts even have jurisdiction? | ||
| To evaluate what the president does with his foreign affairs powers, right? | ||
| Typically, when you have two things, one, the president's exercising foreign affairs powers. | ||
| No one disagrees with that. | ||
| This isn't a, oh, I'm issuing something that's going to regulate health care or regulate, you know, internal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act type decisions. | ||
| This is purely foreign affairs. | ||
| And so you start with that proposition. | ||
| And then secondly, It's protecting the national defense. | ||
| And it's exercising authorities in response to emergencies. | ||
| And there is so much case law that says this is substantially committed to the president's discretion. | ||
| It raises severe risks. | ||
| Of the courts getting involved in this. | ||
| This is something that should be solely up to the president. | ||
| And the courts really are examining what is a political question. | ||
| If Congress doesn't like what the president is doing, exercise oversight. | ||
| Change the laws. | ||
| But it's not up to the court to legislate the president's power away. | ||
| This is my point. | ||
| We're not hurtling towards a constitutional crisis. | ||
| We're in a constitutional crisis right now. | ||
| Do you agree with that? | ||
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Yeah, I think there's lots of risk here because the courts are determining—I think what you're seeing is a very popular president, a president that I agree is rejuvenating America. | |
| And what that might mean is a balance of constitutional powers, which means that a Supreme Court and a federal court system that has been incredibly powerful, that got a lot of its power from FDR—I mean, you know, Steve, why is it that— The District of New Jersey is a single district, but when it comes to certain of the southern states, they have multiple district courts, even though they're a much smaller population. | ||
| It's because FDR made a deal with the southerners. | ||
| And that deal led to federal judges that were pro-the FDR agenda, pro-big government. | ||
| And we still have that legacy. | ||
| And I think President Trump is saying, listen, we need to get the right kinds of judges. | ||
| But we also need to say that there's a balance here. | ||
| The federal courts are not supposed to be determining what legislation the president is limited on in terms of enforcement discretion. | ||
| They're certainly not supposed to be making legislative presumptions or legislative judgments. | ||
| Andrew Jackson, which President Trump admires, and President Lincoln had a solution for this. | ||
| They didn't think the courts... | ||
| Do you think we're hurtling towards that? | ||
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I think it would be an unfortunate state of affairs if the courts do not rein in their power and continue to encroach upon presidential powers. | |
| But ultimately, the president has just as much of a say as to what the Constitution means as the courts do. | ||
| And I think Chief Justice Roberts knows that. | ||
| I think Chief Justice Roberts Dan, we've got to bounce, but has this got to be resolved before the court goes on its summer break from the end of June to the first week of October? | ||
| Do you believe we can go for an entire summer? | ||
| With these fundamental questions about the powers of the commander-in-chief, can they go unresolved by the court for the entire 90 days or 100 days that they're out? | ||
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Yeah, no, that's right. | |
| And I think this administration is going to seek a pause of the enforcement of the Court of International Trade decision, hopefully getting that kind of relief from the Supreme Court so that we don't go several months until the October term begins in having a situation where the president is straightjacketed in ways where the president never should be. | ||
| Dan, social media, where do people go to the America First law, where they follow you, all of it? | ||
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America First Legal is on X and on Truth Social. | |
| Please follow us. | ||
| We're an organization founded by Stephen Miller. | ||
| We believe truly in stopping the weaponization of the law and promoting the rule of law. | ||
| Well, and Stephen, I just want to say, I love Stephen Miller. | ||
| He put up the judicial insurrection continues for last night. | ||
| Didn't he tweet that out on his own personal account, sir? | ||
| Okay, just saying. | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| Miller's the man. | ||
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He's the policy guy, and he's a hammer. | |
| Dan, thank you so much for coming on. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Look forward to having you back on. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Okay, we're in it now. | ||
| I don't see how the courts leave. | ||
| I don't see how the Supreme Court leaves for the summer with these two massive, essentially, decisions before the nation. | ||
| Number one, President Trump's ability, capability, and rights as command and duties, responsibilities as commander-in-chief on repelling the invasion, and the other, about stopping the chemical warfare assault and using tariffs as part of one of his tools to do it. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Stello and Joe Allen on the other side. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann. | |
| Okay, I've got two of the top experts in the country on this topic on artificial intelligence in the current Big Bang, Brian Costello and Joe Allen. | ||
| They're going to come back and join me at 6 o 'clock tonight, 6 p.m. tonight. | ||
| We're going to spend the entire hour. | ||
| I do have some filmmakers coming towards the end, but the bulk of the hour are going through it. | ||
| Brian, until then, your Twitter feed is amazing. | ||
| Where do people go for your Twitter feed? | ||
| You're going to join us back here at 6, so I'm going to give plenty of runway for you to make your case. | ||
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| On X, it's BP Costello. | ||
| And you have up there aspects of this whole, your concept of the efficiency model versus what you call the productivity model? | ||
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Yeah, I haven't thrown that up yet, Steve. | |
| I will. | ||
| Okay, perfect. | ||
| Brian, as you know, is a populist economic nationalist. | ||
| Joe Allen, where do people go for you? | ||
| For all of my Luddite material, go to at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z and jobot.xyz. | ||
| Most recent is enhanced interrogations. | ||
| It's a lot of long-form in-studio interviews. | ||
| Nicole Shanahan, the great Randall Carlson, Jonathan Paggio, and many others. | ||
| Okay, fantastic. | ||
| I'll see you guys at 6 o 'clock. | ||
| 6 o 'clock, we're going to have Costello, Joe Allen. | ||
| We're going to continue this discussion of the big bang of artificial intelligence right now and the coming apocalypse of white-collar jobs. | ||
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