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WarRoom Battleground EP 776: Leftist Activist Attorneys In Brazil Go After Eduardo Bolsonaro
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
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The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
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unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
It's Tuesday, 27 May in the year of our Lord, 2025.
We're about to have shocking news coming out of Brazil.
Eduardo Bolsonaro is going to join us in a moment.
I want to go to California and Steve Hilton.
Steve, you heard about the fiasco in Texas, and in Texas, it's about as red as you can get.
It's a MAGA state.
President Trump won by 14 points.
Ted Cruz won by 9 points.
Knowing that, sir, why are you running as a populist candidate in the state of California?
Is there any hope?
Is this a protest vote?
I think we got a shot, Steve.
unidentified
By the way, that was shocking to hear what's going on in Texas.
I've for a long time been saying California is the worst-run state in America.
Maybe Texas is now giving us some competition.
Look, I'm very serious about this.
And here's the path, right?
2026, the gubernatorial election in California is a midterm.
You're going to have a lower turnout.
If you look at the average of the last two years, last two midterms, the vote that you can expect is about 11.8 million to win.
In California, next year, you need 5.9 million votes.
President Trump just got 6.1 million.
If every Trump voter turns out, now that is a big if.
But if every Trump voter turns out, I'll be the governor.
Now, of course, we're not going to get every Trump voter, but there's a huge untapped potential, and this is where it absolutely is all about populism.
The people who've been hammered the most by these insane far-left policies on climate and the taxes and the regulations, all the rest of the nonsense, the gender ideology in the schools, who really is being hammered the most by that?
Working-class Latinos.
The biggest demographic group, effectively, in California now.
And that is the opportunity to lead that populist revolution, common sense, practical policies that make life easier for the working class in California.
steve bannon
Steve, brother, hang on.
You just had Jay Comey on MSNBC over the weekend with Jen Psaki saying that our party, and particularly MAGA, is white supremacist adjacent.
Your response, sir.
unidentified
So I've been spending time in East Los Angeles, LA County, the biggest in the nation, 10 million people, most of East LA, heavily Latino, working class Latina.
That's where I've been spending my time.
They haven't seen a Republican there like ever.
And you go there, these are the most conservative, common sense people you're going to meet.
And they love President Trump.
They love President Trump.
You ask them about what he's doing on immigration.
He's as tough as you are, Steve.
In everything that they say.
I mean, I have these conversations.
I've put it out on my social media.
Everyone can see.
So it is total BS from the establishment, and they can't stand the fact that it's actually the Trump revolution that is mobilizing the working class against the Democratic Party, against the elites, and against the establishment.
It hasn't quite reached California.
steve bannon
Are there – at least around the California party who have never really embraced President Trump, are they prepared to allow a populist candidate that breathes MAGA to win the primary, sir?
unidentified
Well, I'm going to make sure of it one way or the other.
I mean, look, look what happened.
There's a very important example.
It's why I launched my campaign in Huntington Beach in Orange County, biggest city in Orange County.
Just over four years ago, the city council was run 6-1 by Democrats.
In 2022, a friend of mine who's now the co-chair of my campaign put together a slate of candidates, four of them, called themselves the Fab Four.
They took over.
They immediately started, they won and took control.
The Council started removing homeless encampments, prosecuting crime, getting the nonsense out of the school libraries.
They put voter ID on the ballot.
All these common sense things.
Just now in November, they ran a slate of seven candidates.
Very important detail.
They called themselves the Magnificent Seven.
They weren't running away from Trump.
They were embracing it.
And they all won.
So you've got that city.
It's gone from 6-1 Democrat.
To 7-0 Republican in four years.
And it was just rated the best run city in California.
So to me, that is the model.
That is how we do this, by embracing this populist revolution.
And I don't know, the establishment, as far as I'm concerned, they've been losing for decades.
It's time we won.
steve bannon
Steve, last question for now.
We're looking forward to getting you back here.
Is Kamala Harris going to be your opponent in the fall of 26?
unidentified
Look, I hope so, because the way I put it is the candidate who's going to win in 2026 is the candidate for change.
And no one least represents change than Kamala Harris, who's been knocking around in California politics for two decades.
What we're hearing is that she's been told by the donors and by the machine that she's got no support to run for president.
So if she wants to do anything, it's this.
But I'd say it's not some consolation prize because she made such a disastrous presidential candidate.
I don't know if she's going to do it.
I hope she does it because we're going to get a massive amount of support from the whole country to beat her again.
So bring it on as far as I'm concerned.
steve bannon
Steve, everybody that knows you and everybody working with you, Fox says you're an incredibly nice guy.
Are you too nice for modern blood sport, hand-to-hand combat politics, sir?
unidentified
Well, I know.
I've been pretty aggressive in taking apart these Democrats.
Their record is so disastrous, right?
On every measure that matters, we are the worst in the entire country.
Newsom running around bragging about how we're the world's fourth biggest economy.
We have the highest poverty rate, the highest unemployment rate, all these things, right?
I'm not shy of taking it to the one-party rule.
We have 15 years of one-party rule, and I'm going to stick it to them.
So I don't know.
Maybe I'll do it with a smile on my face, but I'm not going to hold back.
steve bannon
Steve Hilton, where do people go to find out more about you and more about your campaign, sir?
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
So you can follow me at SteveHiltonX on X. We've got a ton of video we're putting out every day.
I'm on the road the whole time at SteveHiltonX.
And the campaign website, SteveHiltonForGovernor.com.
steve bannon
Steve, thank you so much.
Go with God.
Godspeed on this one.
unidentified
Cheers, Steve.
Thank you so much.
steve bannon
Tough fight.
Long odds.
But you're a tough guy.
Thank you, brother.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Eduardo Bolsonaro.
The Bolsonaro's are one of the most important families in all world politics.
Been heroes to the people in Brazil.
Heroes to people throughout the world.
You know, Eduardo, my sister, every night, every time for blessing, she specifically prays for your family, your father, and now we're adding you specifically.
Talk about what's happened here over the last 48 hours in Brazil to now, not just your father's on trial essentially for his life because they want to put him in prison forever and have him assassinated in prison.
Now they're coming after you.
How did we get into a situation that, quite frankly, the U.S. government, I know people are working on it, but have not dropped the hammer on these radical judges, and now we have you being investigated, sir?
Okay, Eduardo, I think you've got your mute on.
You're going to have to take your mute off.
unidentified
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
Go ahead.
unidentified
My fault.
Sorry.
steve bannon
Yeah, that's okay.
Go ahead.
Take it from the top.
unidentified
Last week, Representative Corey Mills from Florida, he asked in a hearing for Secretary of State Marco Rubio about the possibility that the Supreme Court Justice from Brazil, Alexandre de Moraes, could be sanctioned with OFAC sanctions through the Global Magnitsky Act.
Here in the United States, if Trump could sanction Alexandre de Moraes, this crazy justice from the Supreme Court that banned X from Brazil, that detained Jason Miller for a couple of hours in Brazil, that is doing a lot of terrible things and persecuting all the right-wing people in Brazil.
And Rubio answered, saying that yes.
This issue is under analysis in the United States, and probably Alexandre de Moraes is going to be sanctioned by the Trump administration.
So after this, then the establishment in Brazil woke up and realized that the work that we are doing here in the U.S., together with people from China, This work is serious and Alexandre de Moraes is under a high risk to be sanctioned.
So now they are like really debating what to do.
And yesterday, the Attorney General asked Alexandre de Moraes to open a new investigation against me in Brazil.
But this, Steve, is not something against me because they know that they cannot touch me while I'm in the US.
I'm talking here now from Dallas, Texas.
But it's a message to everybody in Brazil that if they are doing that with the son of the former president, the most voted ever congressman in the history of Brazil, the former chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee, imagine what they could do with anyone else in Brazil if they do the same thing that I do, which basically is criticize the Supreme Court.
So I think we are very close to sanction Alexandre de Moraes and something that they are really concerned in Brazil is because they already know that the U.S. intelligence mapped all the lawsuits that belong to the wives and the families of some of the justices of the Supreme Court.
So this is how they earn a lot of money.
This is how a justice of the Supreme Court in Brazil, with a monthly salary of $6,000 or $7,000, can have, you know, Patek Philippi watches of hundreds of dollars.
And they are really, like, they are really crazy with that.
steve bannon
Eduardo, do they – Lula, correct me if I'm wrong, he went to I think the VE Victory in Europe commemoration in Moscow with Xi and Putin.
And then I believe he went to Beijing with Xi.
The relationship of Brazil is getting closer and closer every day with the Chinese Communist Party, is it not?
unidentified
Yeah, that's true.
A couple of months ago, Lula da Silva, president of Brazil, signed with Xi Jinping 37 agreements about energy, satellite communications, uranium, exchange programs for media and a lot of other issues.
And this is very important because it can be the...
We do not have very good relations nowadays with the United States.
I mean, the Lula administration with the Trump administration.
And it's really hard because Lula is really going to the hands of China, even the former And she doesn't want that.
She wants censorship.
So even this is on the table.
And Xi Jinping said that he's going to send a special envoy to Brazil to take care about the TikTok, to stop with this, as they said.
This good influence of TikTok for the right-wing politicians in Brazil.
steve bannon
So just so people understand, the investigation they're trying to open, what are they trying to do to you?
They already got your father in this kangaroo court and they're going to find him guilty because it's all rigged, right?
Your father did absolutely nothing wrong, right?
He did what every patriot in Brazil should do is question that stolen election because the election was stolen.
What are they specifically coming after you and what's the risk that they could be able to try to do something bad?
We understand you can't be extradited.
You're beloved here in the United States, not just the Trump administration, so many different people in this country.
But what are they trying to prove on you?
unidentified
They are accusing me of a violent abolition of the rule of law.
They're saying that I'm an anti-democratic man working against the institutions of Brazil, against institutions like the Supreme Court of Brazil.
And I'm a threat to democracy.
These crimes combined can bring me to the jail for more than 12 years in jail.
And this is coming from the nothing, because last month, the same attorney general said that what I was doing here in the United States, it was completely legal.
But now that they woke up and they listen at Secretary Marco Rubio talking that they probably are going to sanction more rights.
Now they overturn everything, they change their mind and they are desesperated.
To look at someone that is following a law or is following any kind of democratic rule.
They just say that we are going after you and that's it.
They want to show themselves as someone very scary.
You know, people be afraid to tweet or to post on social media.
This is the point.
And not only me, they also just summoned my father to be listened in the same investigation.
Because my father said, In an interview that he was helping me with money, sending money to me here in the United States.
And now they want to listen to my father, the former president Jair Bolsonaro, about this relation with me.
You know, they are trying to stop me here in the United States by taking my family in Brazil.
It's usual as all of the dictatorships all around the world.
It's like the Cuban doctors.
When you have any country hiring Cuban doctors, their families, they stay in Cuba.
As hostages.
Just like me, I'm exiled here in the United States, but my father is in Brazil and he has a travel ban on him.
He doesn't have his passport.
He cannot travel abroad.
This is how this regime is working in Brazil.
That's why we ask all of the authorities here in the United States to sanction Alexandre de Moraes as fast as possible, to not give room to them to try to overturn this situation.
steve bannon
He's one of the worst guys in the world, and there's going to be OFAC sanctions.
That's coming.
He's a terrible person.
And Lula and that crowd in the courts are taking this right from the CCP playbook.
This is absolutely the way they run China.
We started the show this morning at 10 o 'clock in South Korea.
You see what's happening in Korea?
This is global.
Eduardo, where do people go on social media to follow you?
Because this is of extremely high interest to the MAGA movement here in the United States, sir.
unidentified
My social media is BolsonaroSP.
It's like my last name, BolsonaroSP.
Unfortunately, we do not have Rumble in Brazil.
Alexandre de Moraes didn't let Rumble go to Brazil.
And also because of that, if you are watching me from Brazil, you cannot watch the videos on Truth Social, because Truth Social, they use the same service of Rumble in the platform.
But in all of the other social medias, I'm Bolsonaro SP.
I don't know until when I will have them because Moraes, he's also asking about my social medias because he says that I'm fed him through social media.
You know, he's a very sensitive man for sure.
So they wanted to go down with all of that.
This is how our regime tried to sustain, tried to brief on the last moment.
And I do believe that their end It's going.
It's coming.
steve bannon
It's definitely coming.
And if he's a sensitive guy, he better get ready to be sensitive in prison because when Bolsonaro, Captain Bolsonaro, wins again, he's definitely going to prison.
Eduardo, we got your back on this one.
Thank you so much for taking time away.
unidentified
Thank you, Beno.
Bye-bye.
steve bannon
He's leaving by a lot.
He's leaving by a lot.
That's why he got him in court.
Same thing with Le Pen in France, Bolsonaro.
He's leading.
Lula, because Lula's driving the country into a ditch.
People in Brazil know that.
That's why this is so outrageous.
This is lawfare.
This is what they try to do to Trump.
Put him in prison.
They're doing the exact same thing to your father.
It's actually more dangerous because they want to assassinate your father in prison.
And now they're coming after you because you're the biggest supporter and you're the next generation.
It's outrageous.
unidentified
Sir, yes.
Sir, yes, that's it.
steve bannon
We'll get all the social media up.
unidentified
When you look at the bigger picture, you know what is coming.
So what we have to do is we have to resist, we have to fight back.
If they want to silence us, that is the moment that we have to speak.
And I really needed to thank, you know, everybody in the White House who is opening their doors, all the congressmen and the senators that we are talking.
And I hope, God, that very soon Magnitsky sanctions are going to arrive on our eyes.
And let's see their reaction, because we have a very good project to stop him and get back again the normality of democracy of Brazil.
steve bannon
Brother, thank you so much.
Eduardo, we got your back on this one.
unidentified
Thank you very much, Steve.
steve bannon
Eduardo Bolsonaro.
What an incredibly brave family.
Incredibly brave.
With the entire state apparatus of these Marxists.
Lula, one of the worst cretins on earth in this judge.
The Supreme Court Judge Morales, even worse.
Those sanctions are coming.
As sure as the turning of the earth.
Okay.
Rabbi Wolecki has done such a magnificent job of connecting dots of the Chinese Communist Party.
Let's play a cold open for him.
Then we'll go right to him in Jerusalem.
unidentified
We discussed Iran and we discussed where Israel's position was, and I also delivered the message on where the president was.
And the president will never accept a nuclear-capable Iran.
He will never accept them having nuclear weapons and building the capacity to that.
The intelligence information that they have and that Israel has and they share with the United States and that we also have and are using for those conversations is critically important.
So I think the message to the American people is, is we have a president that wants peace, but also He's also a president that will not tolerate nuclear Iran capability in the future.
They will not be able to get a nuclear weapon, and this president will not allow it.
But he also wants this prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to be on the same page with him.
steve bannon
Okay, Rabbi, first off, I'm confused.
I think we've got enough chefs.
You've got Marco Rubio.
You've got Steve Witkoff.
You've got the ambassador.
You've got Huckabee.
No, we've got a good team.
And I'd love me some Kristi Noem, but I thought we were deporting bad guys out of here.
Why is Kristi Noem in Israel or Tel Aviv having discussions with Netanyahu on nuclear Persia, sir?
pesach wolicki
Well, Steve, if you don't mind, right before I get to that, I have to make a comment about Eduardo Bolsonaro.
It's an honor to be on the show right after him.
Just a few months ago in January, there was a young Israeli Named Yuval Vagdani, a survivor of the Nova Festival massacre, who also served in the IDF, who, after his army service, went on a visit to South America with some friends, and they were in Brazil.
And some pro-Hamas organization reached out to the Brazilian authorities and asked them to investigate him for war crimes.
And the Brazilian federal court, we all know how corrupt they are, they started investigating this young man for war crimes.
And it was Eduardo Bolsonaro, none other than him.
Who stepped in and fought the fight to get them to back off and help this young man get out of Brazil safely.
And the Bolsonaro family has been great friends of Israel for a long time.
I just wanted to point that out.
It's a great honor to be on the show after him.
As for Kristi Noem being in Israel, the official reason has to do with the horrible murder of two staffers from the Israeli embassy who were murdered in Washington, D.C. last week.
And because Israel has, of course, a great interest in this investigation into not only the killer, we know who the killer was, but all of the ties that this killer has and all the jihadist red-green alliance factions in the United States that are behind these types of activities, Israel's very interested in this.
So officially she came over to pay a visit to honor the two deceased staffers.
She planted a tree in their memory and it was a diplomatic visit, but she also, as you saw in that clip, she came here to talk to Prime Minister Netanyahu and relay a specific message about the Iran negotiations
She wanted to make sure that Prime Minister Netanyahu, that Israel is not about to launch attacks on Iran, to launch strikes on Iran while these negotiations are going on, scuttling the negotiations.
They want to make sure that Israel's on the same page.
And that's what she meant there when she said that she wanted to let things play out.
But it appears that there is agreement and they do say...
I spoke to some people in the Prime Minister's office today just to make sure I was reading things right.
President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu do see eye to eye on On the idea that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon, and this cannot be stressed enough.
There seems to be some confusion about this.
There's a lot of people claiming that Iran is building a civilian nuclear program, which they are not.
That's an absurdity.
They have some of the cheapest electricity in the world and one of the largest— Hang on.
steve bannon
As you know, we're adamant about no nuclear weapons with the Persians.
You can't do that with a verification because isn't this what we're coming down to?
The non-kinetic alternative is, I think, an embargo, a blockade.
You cut the oil off to the CCP, which is their partner.
This is one of the reasons I wanted to have you follow Bolsonaro because it's two sides of kind of the same coin.
What's happening to the Bolsonaro is driven by Lula, who's a partner of Xi.
He's all over Xi.
It's just like the mullahs in Tehran.
This thing is – you can connect the dots.
What's happening in South Korea, our great allies in South Korea, and the radicalness of these kids.
Who don't have a ton of information but have these strong opinions.
It's all been – today we had Mina Kim and some great people from Colonel Mills, Ambassador Tan, live from Korea saying, hey, the CCP is all over.
You got Chinese paramilitary, Chinese policemen walking the streets.
It's pretty shocking.
So how do we get – you can't have a verification program.
You have to have a take-it-apart program.
Do you believe – or people in Israel at the highest levels believe that we can actually get to a diplomatic solution or a non-kinetic where it's actually not verification?
Because you can't trust these guys.
They're crazy.
They're bad guys, but they're also not dealing in like the Cartesian universe.
So to talk about a verification, hell, we wouldn't do that in Iraq forever.
Obviously, we found out it was nonsense, right?
And the weapons of mass destruction information was gun-decked.
Not UN, but American authorities, sir.
pesach wolicki
It has to be taken apart brick by brick.
Let's remember that they don't live in democracies Walked
into the Oval Office as he rightly should have in 2021.
Would they have collapsed by now or not?
Hard to say, but it looked like they were on the verge of collapse, and I'm in favor of that.
The problem is that, as you say, without verification, they could wait it out, and they don't care how much their people starve, as long as they can control them.
And right now, they are teetering in that regard.
But if they feel their calculus is, and Pezeshachian, however you pronounce his name, the president of Iran, who's really just a mouthpiece, Just the other day said, we're not afraid of sanctions.
We will get through the hard times of the sanctions if we need to.
But we're not going to stop enriching uranium.
And Khamenei has been saying it over and over again.
They're not going to stop enriching uranium.
steve bannon
Rabbi, hang on one second.
We're going to come right back.
unidentified
short break.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
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So Rabbi, go back to this about actually really stopping their nuclear program in a non-kinetic way.
Is it possible President Trump is kind of betting the ranch on this?
He says he can do it.
He's trying to end the kinetic part of the Third World War in Ukraine.
He's trying to get a Russian rapprochement.
He's trying to end this war in Gaza.
He's trying to assist Israel in doing this.
He makes sure he's pretty adamant.
I don't want bombing runs into Persia because it'll only drag us into something deeper, and I want to end these wars.
You're very dialed in at the highest levels of the Israeli government and military.
Is this a fantasy that we're chasing, that those of us that support Israel say, hey, there's something that can really be done here?
President Trump being at the lead and Kristi Noem laying it out.
Is it real?
And are people in the Israeli government and military really on the same page with President Trump?
pesach wolicki
Well, I'll just put it in Prime Minister Netanyahu's terms.
He just said it to the Israeli people the other day.
He said, listen, we're fine with a deal if it actually verifiably dismantles Iran's nuclear program.
But it can't be one of these things where it just kicks it down the road for a few years.
Or they're still allowed to enrich uranium, and there's just kind of like some oversight, because then when the next U.S. administration comes in, we're back to square one, as long as it's actually verifiable.
Now, we have serious doubts, especially the Iranians have been digging in, especially over the last couple of weeks since President Trump's visit to Qatar.
I'm going to put things right on the table, Steve.
When President Trump was in Qatar and he basically said that the Iranians should be thanking the Qataris because he...
The problem here is that without a credible threat, a credible threat of kinetic attacks, the Iranians will dig in on their positions.
It's not that we're just sitting here war-mongering, asking for attacks.
It's that there has to be a real credible threat.
Otherwise, the Iranians are not going to back down and they're not going to cooperate in the negotiations.
And they're already signaling, as I said before, Khamenei said it the other day, Pazir Zian said it, and the foreign minister, Araqchi, said it yesterday.
They will not stop enriching uranium.
They're thumbing their nose at the United States.
So we have our doubts.
And from Israel's perspective, this is an existential issue.
If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, whether it's now or 10 years from now, if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, that is an existential threat to Israel.
One big mistake that Westerners make is that we assume that these people have motives similar to ours.
It's not just that they're not in the Cartesian universe, as you said, Steve.
They are ideologically driven.
And you hear it so often from Western diplomats.
They say, well, you know, we could buy them off.
It's economic.
You know, we can you know, maybe they just want to have a civilian nuclear energy program, which they don't.
They have the cheapest and most plentiful natural gas in the world.
They don't need nuclear energy.
Obviously, they're doing this and incurring all these sanctions.
And, you know, to the tune of trillions of dollars that it's cost them over the years, they're not doing that because they need to save a couple cents on energy that they already have in plentiful capacity.
They have a lousy grid, but the nuclear reactors aren't going to help them with If a negotiation can actually stop it verifiably, yeah, we're in favor of that.
But Israel has an existential problem we have to deal with.
So, of course, as Kristi Noem said, we need the Americans.
We need to be on the same page.
And we also know that the longer we wait, the longer Iran has to rebuild its air defense.
And let me add something, Steve.
And here I'm going to push back a little bit.
We talk about attacking Iran would drag us into something more.
Iran doesn't have much of a ground force anyway.
Iran's military capabilities are very much their missile program, their drone program.
And to quote one general here in Israel who I thought put it very nicely, Amir Avivi, you've had him on the show, bringing down Iran is not the beginning of a war.
It's actually the end of a war.
It's much more similar to the bombing of the Japanese at the end of World War II.
steve bannon
Unfortunately, I know, but unfortunately, I know, but unfortunately, with 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is zero.
That argument will never play in.
unidentified
Oh, I understand.
pesach wolicki
I understand.
I understand why Americans were loyal.
steve bannon
In fact, I don't believe it.
I know they've got, no, their air defense is nothing, but you're talking about an ancient civilization.
That if an attack like that, it's just not going to roll over.
So I totally disagree.
Let me go to another topic.
This is about this global intifada, the red-green merger.
You've been great on CCP involvement everywhere, the black hand of the CCP.
You've also been one of the top guys in the red-green merger.
And I don't have this fully.
I'm just getting this very partially.
I just want to throw it out there where I got you.
That the assassin, this young guy, Gonzalez or Rodriguez, that there's now some text messages or people saying, hey, he wasn't anti-Semitic.
He didn't hate Jewish people.
He hates the Jewish state.
He thinks the Jewish state is a genocidal state and that anybody that works with the genocidal state is therefore by definition a war criminal and is open to be assassinated.
But he's got no problem with the Jewish people and he's certainly not anti-Semitic or a Jew hater.
Your thoughts?
pesach wolicki
Sure.
He has nothing against the Jewish people, so long as the Jewish people don't define themselves as an actual nation.
And so long as the Jewish people don't define themselves as an ancient nation, we have an unbroken chain of record of exactly who we are and where we've been for thousands of years.
So he has no problem with Jews who are completely disconnected from their history and their heritage and don't want to have their own nation state in their ancient homeland, of course.
So yeah, he's going to tell us what Jews...
Again, I don't care what's anti-Semitism or not.
That's not the point here.
Look, this is a guy indoctrinated by what you call the Red-Green Alliance.
He was active in BLM.
He was active in all sorts of socialist Marxists.
He also hates Israel.
When we talk about the Red-Green Alliance, we're talking about the Muslims, the jihadist Muslims, and the leftist, atheist, socialist Marxists that have come together.
It's the same thing as Iran and the CCP working together.
It's the Marxist socialists.
And the jihadist Muslims who despise Western civilization.
They despise the Judeo-Christian foundations of Western civilization.
And nothing is more abhorrent to them than the fulfillment of biblical prophecy by the Jewish people after thousands of years returning to our homeland and reconstituting our nation state with Jerusalem as its capital.
There's nothing more abhorrent to them than that.
First of all, the fulfillment of prophecy must scare the living daylights out of them.
But look, this goes back to the wars between the Christians and the Muslims over Jerusalem.
Who controls Jerusalem is really what it's all about.
You know what Hamas calls this war?
This October 7th war, they have a name for it.
They call it the Al-Aqsa Flood.
Al-Aqsa is their name for the Temple Mount.
As far as they're concerned, as far as Hamas is concerned, this war is about Jerusalem.
And that's really what this When you talk about Bolsonaro versus Lula, you're talking about a Christian versus a Marxist.
You're talking about Bolsonaro who understands that Israel is fighting.
On the vanguard of the defense of Western civilization.
And that's why Bolsonaro supporters typically bring Israeli flags to their anti-Lula rallies, which is an interesting thing, because they understand that Israel's struggle is the kinetic front lines of the global struggle against this combination of Marxists and jihadists who are trying to take down the biblically-based Judeo-Christian West.
That's what this is all about.
The kid who assassinated those two staffers at the Israeli embassy is the avatar for the entire Red-Green Alliance.
Here he is, declaring now in text messages that he has no problem with Jews.
He has no problem with Jews.
He has no problem with some Jews who are just eternally scattered in the exile and aren't really that committed to their Judaism.
That he's fine with.
But actual Jews who believe in Judaism, who embrace their Jewish heritage and nationality, who want to have their own nation.
Those are the Jews he has a problem with.
Is adamantly pro-Israel.
Whether it's the Orban supporters, the Wilder supporters, the Vox supporters in Spain, go down the list.
They all understand that Israel's fight is the battle for Western civilization.
And somehow, somehow in America, in the America First movement, too many, too many in our movement, Steve.
And I say our movement, I've been part of MAGA from the beginning.
Too many in our movement have lost the plot.
steve bannon
Rabbi, where do people go to get all your writings and your social media?
pesach wolicki
The best place to follow my updates from Israel is the Israel 365 YouTube channel.
You can also follow my podcast, the Shoulder to Shoulder Podcast on all podcast platforms, and I'm at Rabbi PW on X and Getter.
steve bannon
Thank you, Rabbi.
I appreciate you staying up late tonight in Jerusalem to join us.
Appreciate you.
Thank you.
pesach wolicki
God bless, Steve.
steve bannon
I imagine that'll start a few conversations.
Jackie Toberoff.
Jackie, this piece, we're on this about Christianity, the Judeo-Christian West, radical jihad.
You bring up a quite unpleasant topic in your, but one we have to address in your article.
What is it, ma 'am?
unidentified
So let me connect everything for you.
Churches are on the brink of extinction.
Synagogues are declining.
This is the basis for Judeo-Christian America.
What is surging is mosque growth, 165%.
And with that, we see a spike in Islamists here in America.
And we have to ask, are these things correlated?
How many of these mosques have been radicalized, creating radical Islamists doing what happened in D.C. and terrorizing Colombia and in Michigan and, quite frankly, throughout America?
steve bannon
So here's the question.
Is it...
There's so many, you know, the mainstream Protestant and also the mainstream Catholic has gotten so liberal, they're falling off.
You see these traditional, like, Latin Mass Catholics, Rabbi Walicki and his group.
The conservative, the ones getting back to tradition are growing and they're vibrant.
But they're smaller than the official.
Are we just losing our faith?
Is the Judeo-Christian West losing their faith in the basic core spiritual part of what is the foundational element for us?
And the jihadists are on the rise because however they indoctrinate people, however they have formation, they just have more intensity right now.
Ma 'am.
unidentified
I mean, there's something called separation of church and state.
And what's so amazing about this is that they are against, when I say they, you know, educators.
And really, many Americans are against.
For very valid reasons, having Christian law or Jewish law rule.
Why isn't it the same thing with Islamist law?
There is separation of church and state.
And what is going on with these mosques is some of them are tied to Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.
They've been linked in the Holy Land trial as unindicted.
Co-conspirators for funneling money to Hamas.
So really what needs to happen is some sort of forensic accounting of some of these mosques.
Because quite frankly, we don't have a Jewish terrorism problem and we don't have a Christian terrorism problem.
We have a real problem here in America with Islamists.
And we have to see if this is correlated to the surge in mosques.
steve bannon
And for sure-But yeah- We played the clip earlier in the show about Comey sitting there going, the problem is one party, that would be the Republican Party, specifically the MAGA wing of it, is white supremacists adjacent.
And they would actually argue, as they did when they ran the deal, and this is why we've got to take it apart, that their idea is the biggest threat to the country is Christian nationalism, of which they say is just a front for a white supremacist terrorist organization, ma 'am.
unidentified
Right.
This is the same sort of thing that Eric Adams used.
Eric Adams, New York City Mayor Eric Adams, when he was talking about the subways, he blamed it on white supremacists and figments of our imagination.
It's total lies.
People see through this.
The issue is, is that even though we are experiencing some sort of Islamist fatigue, it's boring seeing these daily riots and occupations and, you know, screeching downwardly mobile people.
But nonetheless.
steve bannon
Yeah, because this young man didn't look like an Islamist.
In fact, he looked like a neo-Marxist radical that had come up and his formation had been in kind of that – when we talk about the Red-Green Alliance, theirs was the Marxist part of it where he hated capitalism.
He hated the United States of America.
I think somebody just sent me a text that he was talking about he's a supporter of a white genocide, a genocide against whites, but the twisted ideology that twisted him.
So what is our – I think there are a couple of things.
unidentified
We need to look into Nate and Isna.
The explanation for what both of those non-profits are is in the article.
So for time, I'm not going to get into it, but we should look into those.
I think we should not allow churches to be sold, repurposed.
We really have to protect the Judeo-Christian American ethos.
Maybe there should be a cap on how many mosques should be built.
I'm not quite sure what the solution is, but something has to happen because we are losing the plot here.
steve bannon
I say this in England.
You're saying right now you want to see a moratorium on any more church structures that are turned over to real estate developers that become these mini malls or boutiques like the Magnificent Church in New York City, I think on 6th Avenue, that was turned into a nightclub and now it's some sort of boutique.
You say for right now you want to see a cessation of all that?
unidentified
Yeah, and I'll tell you what the real issue is with this.
Islamism is really the reordering of government according to Sharia law.
There should be some sort of federal ban on Sharia law.
I don't want to wear a hijab.
No one in Tribeca does.
No one in New York City does.
We don't want hijabs.
And we really need to do something to combat this poisonous ideology that has completely overtaken our American institutions of higher education.
steve bannon
Jackie, where do people go to get your articles, all your writings, and social media?
You are on fire, ma 'am.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
Please go to my Instagram, Jacqueline4NYC.
That is J-A-C-Q-U-E-L-I-N-E-F-O-R-N-Y-C.
Subscribe, and that's it.
You can find me there.
I like...
steve bannon
I'm going to contact you afterwards.
We've got to talk this through.
Jackie Toro, thank you so much.
You're a fire breather.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
You're what we call it in New York City.
You're Damon Runyon.
You're a tough broad.
Keep fighting.
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