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Okay, welcome back. | ||
We're going to go to Geneva, Noor Bin Laden. | ||
So, Noor, I'm totally confused now. | ||
Through your hard efforts and work, not only did we stop American involvement, I think, in this World Health Organization, the treaty, the pandemic treaty, in addition, President Trump made a priority that aren't we pulling out of the World Health Organization? | ||
Does this still have its grip on the United States of America? | ||
I thought we were out, ma 'am. | ||
Great to be with you, Steve, and to be with Akassi and reporting on the WHO here in Geneva. | ||
There are quite a few things happening, but definitely President Trump's moves to exit the WHO is really front and centre here this week. | ||
But it's a one-year-long process. | ||
So on day one of President Trump's new administration, he signed an executive order to kickstart the process of leaving, of exiting the WHO. | ||
That's going to take a year. | ||
So that will only be in effect in January 2026. | ||
That being said, the membership fees, the annual membership fees for 2024-2025 supposedly are still due, but President Trump's administration is recusing to pay that, leading to the WHO members here this week, including Tedros Ghebreyesus, the Director General. | ||
To be shedding quite a few tears about the slash in budgeting, because that represents about 260 million U.S. dollars that won't be included in the WHO coffers this year. | ||
So you've had quite a few discussions about that. | ||
There was as well a side panel today talking about the fallout and the slash of budgeting due to the U.S. pulling out of the WHO. | ||
So, hang on, hang on. | ||
So reality is set in that we're out and our money's out. | ||
And in fact, Trump's saying 24 and 25, you ain't getting it either. | ||
So Tedros and this bunch of Chinese Communist Party corrupt bureaucrats in administrative state that remember Geneva is the engine room of the United Nations. | ||
The U.N. in New York is just performative. | ||
That's that's where they go for the TV cameras and the security council. | ||
But the engine room where it all works is in Geneva. | ||
So reality set in. | ||
They know the United States is out and now you're having the gnashing of teeth and the wringing of hands, ma'am. | ||
Yes, especially another very strong signal that the Trump administration sent at this year's World Health Assembly. | ||
Is that no U.S. delegates are present here. | ||
So just to give a little bit of context how it works. | ||
So the World Health Organization every year holds its annual meeting, which is called the World Health Assembly. | ||
And the WHO is comprised of 194 member states. | ||
And each member state sends their delegates each year for this week-long health, so-called health fest. | ||
And the U.S. did not send any delegates this year. | ||
Well, so Michelle Bachman warned, and I think you warned too, even though we're in the process of pulling out, we're six months away, it's starting January 26th, we already notified them. | ||
Can they still pass all this madness and kind of encircle the United States? | ||
So if you want to travel, if you want to take a job overseas, if you want to do anything, that they've got their tentacles around the throat of American citizens, ma 'am? | ||
Yes, so that's a really great question because it brings me back to what I've been covering on the WHO with you, Steve, also on the show previous years. | ||
But what we need to understand is that they've been working hard on two instruments, two kind of conventions or treaties or laws. | ||
The first track is the International Health Regulation Amendments, to which the United States is a part of. | ||
And one thing that the administration absolutely needs to do... | ||
Before July 19th is actually to reject the amendments to the international health regulations, which were adopted last year at the last World Health Assembly in 2024 here in Geneva. | ||
And obviously it is of my opinion that the U.S. should actually just annul the international health regulations or their ratification of the international health regulations altogether. | ||
So that's the first track. | ||
The second track is this so-called pandemic treaty, the pandemic agreement that we've been hearing about ad nauseum for the past four years, ever since Boris Johnson and a slew of other world leaders in March 2021 published that letter calling for all the different governments and the WHO with the leadership of the WHO to draft this pandemic agreement. | ||
So they've been working. | ||
On this for over three years now, the first working group that was set up their first session took place early 2022. | ||
And the reason why I wanted to show this clip of all these delegates applauding in the main hall of the United Nations European headquarters here in Geneva is because it is so emblematic of the fakeness and performative nature. | ||
of all of these entities and organizations and the people that formed them because they are trying to pretend that this is a huge victory. | ||
They're calling this a win for multilateralism when in fact it is anything but. | ||
It is a complete damage control operation and PR mitigation, disaster mitigation campaign that they've put on here this entire week in Geneva because the truth Is that this pandemic agreement hasn't been actually signed. | ||
It's been so-called adopted, but the meat of the bone of this agreement hasn't been agreed upon. | ||
There hasn't been consensus. | ||
And they actually moved that part of the agreement, which is the PABS system, the pathogen access and benefit sharing system. | ||
They've moved it to an annex and they're going to continue negotiating on the PAP system at least until the next WHA. | ||
And so, in effect, this was a pure show that they put on for us because otherwise they would have been left with egg on their face because they've been working this for so long. | ||
Last year already they delayed the adoption of this agreement saying they couldn't reach consensus. | ||
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It's all smoke and mirrors, Steve. | |
It's obvious they're going to try to brazen this out and get some weak Republicans to cave on this and get Trump to reverse it or try to get Trump to reverse it, although this is what we voted for, and then try to turn it around if they steal it in 28. How many more days is this last, ma 'am? | ||
So this year's WHA is from May 19th to May 27th, so I believe next Monday or Tuesday. | ||
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Okay. | |
We want to get you back on. | ||
We'll go into more depth about all this tomorrow. | ||
Where do people go to get your content, Noor? | ||
Well, with regards to the WHO, I urge people to go to the website WeHeartOthers.com. | ||
I also reported a podcast with James Roguski yesterday breaking down everything you need to know about these latest developments because it's confusing and convoluted on purpose. | ||
and it's very important to actually read the documents but obviously they put you to sleep with all of their wording and nomenclature um but what what comes out is actually very deceiving so where do they get where I have a channel on Rumble, Norbin Laden, but everything on the WHO is on weheardothers.com. | ||
You'll find all the links, all the different press releases of the WHO, the official documents. | ||
We've made a really good... | ||
It's basically everything you need to know about the WHO and with regards to the pandemic agreement. | ||
In essence, this pandemic industry that they've created out of thin air in order to push more "pandemic-related products" and push more poison. | ||
You're one of the key people to get us out of this mess, and so I know you're going to be one of the key people at the forefront of this to shut this whole mess down. | ||
Noor Bin Laden, we'll work to try to get you back up tomorrow. | ||
I want to go even more in depth on this. | ||
Thank you, ma 'am. | ||
Great work. | ||
Thank you very much. | ||
What a warrior. | ||
Noor Bin Laden. | ||
Talk about a warrior. | ||
Andy Harris just announced... | ||
Yeah, you've got to pull that over. | ||
Andy Harris just announced... | ||
Is this even in a camera shot, Mr. Producer? | ||
Okay, Andy Harris. | ||
I'm going to direct where we do this. | ||
Andy Harris just announced, hey, they made progress. | ||
They're back on. | ||
Maybe last night was not as terrible. | ||
But he's saying it's 10 days before he thinks this thing gets sorted out. | ||
So we'll give updates to go. | ||
Max Tegmark. | ||
The future of life, one of the leading lights in artificial intelligence and particularly the dangers of artificial intelligence and what we have to do to keep our humanity. | ||
Brother, thank you so much for joining us today in the studio. | ||
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Thank you so much for having me on. | |
You're at Catholic University on a panel this afternoon. | ||
We're going to live stream this at 1.30. | ||
Is that when it's going to take place? | ||
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Yeah, I'm really excited about this actually because I've said for a long time we really need some moral leadership. | |
On AI, we can't let these big decisions about humanity's future being done by some tech bros in San Francisco. | ||
So I said yesterday in the Financial Times, they had this article about the populist versus the broligarchs. | ||
And I said that in Washington, D.C., you need five times more regulations to open a nail salon or a hair braiding salon than the top four guys right now. | ||
You know, Altman, Musk, all of them. | ||
The top four. | ||
Have in all regulation on artificial intelligence. | ||
And in fact, the big, beautiful bill, I think, has a part of it. | ||
It's going to be fought, I think, extensively to ban any state from putting in any regulation to slow down the march towards artificial general intelligence. | ||
How does that set with you? | ||
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It's obviously a giant corporate handout boondoggle for these tech lobbyists. | |
But it's also quite dangerous because, you know... | ||
When the United States was formed, a core part of the agreement with the states was that they were going to have the right to make their own laws about things that really affected them. | ||
So to now come and say to these same states that, hey, you know, that was a long time ago. | ||
Forget about it. | ||
So you're a states' rights guy when it comes to artificial... | ||
By the way, Elon Musk is one of your biggest supporters. | ||
The back of the book... | ||
And when I first picked it up years ago, this is a compelling guy to the challenges and choices in our quest for a great future of life, intelligence, and consciousness on Earth and beyond. | ||
He's one of your biggest supporters, but now he's one of the guys driving this. | ||
Are you a Luddite? | ||
I mean, you just don't want... | ||
Because you're one of the leading guys in artificial intelligence. | ||
Now you're saying, hey, we've got to slow down. | ||
We're going off a cliff. | ||
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I think... | |
So Elon is actually the one CEO who has come up for... | ||
Regulations. | ||
For example, California had this state legislation, SB 1047. | ||
He supported it. | ||
All the other guys, DeepMind, OpenAI, and said, no, no, no, we don't want it. | ||
He is a complex person. | ||
He has for the 11 years since I first met him been consistently very afraid of us just building our own replacement. | ||
It's completely separate from all of his other opinions. | ||
I think he's been very steady there and just feeling that it's kind of crazy to do this. | ||
The other companies, I think, are just acting very predictably like you think their lobbyists sort of want them to. | ||
Coming back to states' rights, you know... | ||
Why shouldn't Texas have the right to weigh in on the most important issue of our time for 10 years? | ||
You think this is the most important? | ||
Why is this the most important issue of our time? | ||
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Oh, AI itself. | |
Simply because, you know, it's going to be vastly more impactful than the Industrial Revolution, which was itself a big deal. | ||
There, we built machines to figure out how to replace our muscles with faster and stronger things. | ||
And in the end, it worked out. | ||
Pretty well for us because we could go and work with our brains instead. | ||
And now you have these companies who want to build machines that can outthink us in every possible way. | ||
And if they do that, they basically end up taking all the money that's now going as income to us on our paychecks and goes all to the pockets of some dudes in San Francisco. | ||
You know, who are we kidding if we think... | ||
You're seeing this because in the Microsoft layoff, right, of the 3%, they're saying 30% of that is directly related to high value added former coding jobs directly related to artificial intelligence. | ||
Are you starting to see this? | ||
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Those are just the first shots of the revolution. | |
Some groups here and there, in this case, programmers feeling it. | ||
But if you look at the websites of these corporations, they say very clearly, OpenAI, for example, that their goal is to Replace all economically valuable work with machines. | ||
And so that's an insane power grab because you're not just talking about money here. | ||
You know, if ordinary American workers are no longer needed, do you think anyone is going to care what they want? | ||
I think you'll be very naive to think that this isn't an enormous power grab as well. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
Okay, breaking news. | ||
Over at the White House, 3 o 'clock, Speaker Johnson is going to be with Andy Harris and the at least select members of the House Freedom Caucus meeting with the President of the United States. | ||
So I think we're going to have some deal-making. | ||
You may see some sausage made publicly. | ||
Anyway, 3 o 'clock. | ||
We're going to monitor that, and it'll probably be in the middle of the Steve Gruber show. | ||
I'm sure President Trump will have a press avail. | ||
Anyway, this is going to be a wild afternoon, folks, as President Trump is now inserting himself again to say, hey, look, Johnson, if you can't get it done, bring the boys over here and let's have a chat. | ||
It's going to be pretty wild. | ||
So, Max, you could do anything with your life, right? | ||
You're a multi-talented guy, smart guy. | ||
You're essentially saying that if we don't get in back of what's really going on in artificial intelligence, and right now there's so much money being made, everybody's kind of taking a hands-off approach, right? | ||
That this could be, it could have great benefits, tremendous benefits, but the downside of this could also be kind of civilization ending, right? | ||
Is that the scale that we're talking about? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Make your case. | ||
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It sounds like hyperbole, but it's not. | |
The largest American AI companies are all saying that their goal is to build machines that can do all the jobs, basically, of all Americans better than we can in two to five years. | ||
And they tell investors this. | ||
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They tell investors this. | |
So they have a fiduciary. | ||
I mean, they tell investors, this is why you're putting the money in, because we're looking to basically take out the workforce and replace it with... | ||
Combination of AGI and regenerative robotics, right? | ||
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Yeah, and they try to calm ordinary people by BS claims that, oh, this is not going to replace you. | |
It's just going to, if you pay $20 a month, it's going to make you better at your job. | ||
And there's no way the numbers add up that way. | ||
The way they're going to actually make their investment back is to replace the entire person and charge $10,000 from their employer to replace the whole human. | ||
You were a huge advocate at this one time. | ||
You were one of the leaders in artificial intelligence. | ||
What was your cathartic moment? | ||
When did all of a sudden you flip and go, "Hey, I think that this thing may have a dark side I didn't really understand at first"? | ||
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Well, we have to remember technology itself is not evil. | |
It's also not morally good. | ||
You know, a knife? | ||
Is it evil? | ||
No, you can make a great barbecue with it, but you can also stab someone. | ||
AI is like that. | ||
It's just the most powerful tech that we will ever have built. | ||
So it's just incredibly important to show some moral leadership. | ||
We've done it with knives. | ||
Knives are mostly used for good things in DC, but sometimes for bad things, and that's why we have laws about this. | ||
For AI, similarly, if we actually... | ||
Treat the AI companies like everyone else and have some safety standards for them. | ||
We can cure cancer with AI. | ||
We can make America very strong and prosperous. | ||
Help me out here. | ||
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That's not the direction we're going right now. | |
Let's go back to the Industrial Revolution. | ||
Mankind is kind of flat to hit the Industrial Revolution in the 19th century and then productivity. | ||
So all the agricultural revolution, man's life really didn't change to hit the Industrial Revolution. | ||
By the Industrial Revolution, you saw it a little bit in the Civil War, a little bit in some of these wars. | ||
But then from 1914 to 1989, we killed, I don't know, a quarter of a billion people in like the dark. | ||
It's the New Dark Ages because of technology. | ||
Isn't technology, when it first comes on, is always used in just mankind's nature? | ||
It always goes to some sort of weaponization of power? | ||
Is the history of technology showing me that or not? | ||
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You're saying that curiosity killed the cat? | |
Well, I'm saying more than curiosity that people realize right away that it's got all kind of great—it's like in the Industrial Revolution. | ||
This is why the Civil War was so bloody. | ||
The technology was so far advanced, and hey, they've only been around a couple of years, right? | ||
If you look at the 20th century, it led to all these weapon systems from World War I all the way through that allowed mass annihilation of people, ending with nuclear weapons, biological weapons, all of this. | ||
Now we're sitting on a new generation of— Technology that's orders of magnitude more powerful, why is it not going to go immediately into some sort of war-making that we can't control? | ||
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Yeah, let me add some optimism here. | |
You know, there is a reason why we still have not had nuclear winter, which might kill 99% of all Americans. | ||
It's because people started to realize that this is not something anyone wants, and we steered in a direction where we instead use it for green energy and nuclear power plants. | ||
Have reasons to be optimistic for the same reason about AI. | ||
If the decisions are actually made by American voters democratically, we will use all this wonderful AI to build tools that can help us cure diseases. | ||
Let's go back to the 20th century. | ||
The reason we were able to do that is America, the Germans didn't get the bomb. | ||
The Russians got the bomb later. | ||
We were first and we had the most powerful... | ||
Arsenal, and so it was kind of a reign of terror, right? | ||
We just talked this morning and started the show with the Golden Dome to really build an anti-ballistic missile capability here to keep... | ||
Because now you've got Pakistan, you've got all these nations that got it in hypersonic. | ||
Here, we're not guaranteed that we're going to be the leader in AI. | ||
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But here's the optimism. | |
The reason we didn't end up in a nuclear war was because we kept the decisions for... | ||
About nuclear strikes with the US government. | ||
We didn't let the uranium industry decide what was going to happen. | ||
Similarly, it's insane if we let the people who are... | ||
Just trying to make a buck off of AI, make all the decisions about how it's going to be used. | ||
But here's one of the problems. | ||
We just had Rudy on about a massive scandal where you had the deep state in this country with Biden. | ||
We have no worthy idea. | ||
You've got to adjudicate this. | ||
We just had followed with Noor Bin Laden in Geneva saying, hey, these guys were to sign us up for the WHO to make the case that the U.S. government per se, we're comfortable when Trump's in there and MAGA's running it, we're good. | ||
We're not so good. | ||
You're making my case for me. | ||
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These tech companies are exactly the people who silenced the Hunter Biden laptop story and so much else and came out. | |
You can look up their tweets, how they celebrate the defeat of Trump, and now they're pretending that they've always been Trump's best friends, right? | ||
Do you really trust these people to make these big decisions about the future? | ||
So this preemption legislation is simply an attempt for them to be able to continue making all the decisions themselves and not let states do anything about it. | ||
And they're trying at the federal level also. | ||
Talk about your future life. | ||
You put this together, a group. | ||
What is its purpose? | ||
And let's talk about what you're talking about. | ||
It's at least some sort of legislation or something that allows us to get our hands around this. | ||
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The first thing we need is to have not just these tech CEOs from San Francisco in the room, but also people who actually are guided by moral principles. | |
That's why I'm so proud of Reverend Johnny Moore's announcement this afternoon. | ||
They want to have a say in this to make sure that this technology actually benefits Americans and not just San Francisco CEOs. | ||
The second thing is the whole problem can be fixed if we just stop coddling these San Francisco CEOs and treat them like all other companies. | ||
Why should there be more safety standards on sandwiches than on... | ||
You said it's five times more regulation on nail salons. | ||
Actually, it's infinitely many times more because there's zilch. | ||
If some company in San Francisco wants to release technology tomorrow that they can't even control, there's no law against it at all. | ||
Who's coming to your cause? | ||
Who's coming to the future of life? | ||
Because as soon as ChatGPT, which was the big thing they had to get around, was announced in Davos. | ||
All the venture capital, all the stock, all public equity, all they want to talk about, what's your AI component? | ||
Tesla spun off its AI. | ||
They were going to become an AI company now. | ||
He's huge in AI. | ||
It's all AI, and money is chasing it nonstop. | ||
So who's coming to your cause? | ||
I'm not calling you a Luddite, because I believe in your cause, but who's coming to your side? | ||
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First of all, there's very broad support for it from really all walks of life. | |
Polls show that most Americans just hate the idea of building some sort of new digital master race, regardless of whether they're MAGA or not. | ||
It's just a disgusting, appalling idea. | ||
So most people support this, not the tech lobbyists, of course. | ||
Second, business people, generally, what do they actually want? | ||
They want tools, AI tools. | ||
They would love tools for better medicines, making America more efficient. | ||
People in the military want better AI weapons. | ||
Those are all supposed to be tools that work for us, that we control. | ||
We don't want the drone swarm that's uncontrollable. | ||
We don't want the self-driving car that persuades you to vote for your least favorite politician. | ||
You want tools. | ||
So I'm all for AI tools. | ||
What I'm against is this... | ||
AGI thing that you're supposed to build some sort of digital god that can do it or some sort of just swap and replacement for humans. | ||
We don't need that and we don't want that. | ||
And today you go to... | ||
Why are you going to Catholic University? | ||
I mean Pope Leo XIV said he took the name Leo XIV because Leo XIII was the social justice for workers during the Industrial Revolution and his big concern... | ||
is artificial intelligence, which the church has not been or Christianity overall has not really been at the forefront of this argument. | ||
He's saying he's gonna put it as the center of his papacy. | ||
Is this why you're going over to Catholic University today? | ||
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Yeah, I'm going to Catholic University because I'm really delighted to see some moral leadership from people who are driven by something else than just getting a bit more profit on their San Francisco company. | |
I think we have to ask ourselves not just what we can do, but what we ought to do. | ||
And your panel is going to be at 1.30 today, and we're going to stream it. | ||
Can you hang around? | ||
I want to keep you for part of the next break. | ||
Okay, a lot of breaking news. | ||
Three o 'clock today, Andy Harris, the House Freedom Caucus, with the Speaker of the House, is going to go over, I don't know, probably the Roosevelt Room, maybe the Cabinet Room, to meet with President Trump. | ||
He's going to walk through why they should close this deal today, have a vote, and get on with it. | ||
Andy Harris is saying it's going to take another 10 days. | ||
So you've got the bid, and you've got the ask. | ||
I think President Trump's going to convince some people over there. | ||
You don't get called over to the White House. | ||
They couldn't call over to the woodshed, okay? | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
So, Max, in the big, beautiful bill that they're going to go talk to the president about, one of the things that slid in there is this, and I just want to make sure that we've got it up because I know in the Senate, Josh Hawley and others are going to say this is not going to survive. | ||
Just talk to us about what the tech bros have slid in there about the state's ability to control for their citizens artificial intelligence. | ||
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The tech bros have slid in this Trojan horse? | |
Which basically is a massive power grab to San Francisco, saying, for example, that if Texas passes a law in two years, restricting something crazy that an AI company wanted to do, the tech bros in San Francisco would be like, uh-uh, we can do whatever we want because this thing is the bill. | ||
Federal law would override the state law. | ||
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It bans the states from passing any laws for 10 years. | |
Any laws restricting artificial intelligence. | ||
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Yeah, it's complete insanity. | |
And I'm actually very proud of Josh Hawley for calling it out as the giant corporate boondoggle that it is. | ||
But it's important to remember, even if it doesn't make it this time in this bill, it's going to be like a many-headed hydra that's going to come back. | ||
They're going to try to bring it back in other ways again and again, and we just have to... | ||
In order of importance of all the issues this nation faces right now, which are manifold. | ||
A technology that has unlimited opportunity, you're saying right now it's got so much potential downside that we've only got a chance now, now, you're not going to have it a year from now, but you've got to now come together and start to reason together about how this is actually going to be used. | ||
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Yeah, President Trump is the AI president because it's going to be most likely during his term that it gets decided whether we just... | |
Build a new replacement thing or whether we're going to make this into something really great that helps us. | ||
We're going to have a special at 6 o 'clock. | ||
We're talking about the Chinese human organ harvesting, the secret deal with the Catholic Church, all the things of the Chinese Communist Party and why there's such a criminal element to profit and monetize human organs and human organ harvesting. | ||
The argument from the tech bros is that, hey, they've had a Sputnik moment with Deep Seek. | ||
If you don't unchain us, they're going to control the world, and then the United States is going to be basically submissive to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
Your answer, sir? | ||
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There are, of course, very real geopolitical issues, but the tech bros are just using that as an excuse to enrich themselves and avoid regulation. | |
They keep saying, but China, even if you try to ban... | ||
Non-consensual sexual deepfakes and anything. | ||
The truth is that the Chinese Communist Party wants to keep control of China. | ||
It's indisputable. | ||
So, for some San Francisco-based tech voters to say, "Oh, China is going to let the Chinese company build something uncontrollable," is just a lie. | ||
Okay, we're going to stream you at 1:30, but I want to have you back on hopefully later in the week by Skype. | ||
I know you've got to travel to give your assessment of how it went at Catholic University today. | ||
Thank you. | ||
You're doing God's work. | ||
One more time, where do people go to find out more about the future of life? | ||
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FutureLife.org. | |
And you've got all your information there? | ||
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as best as we can. | |
Yeah, maybe we should have worked even harder to have more stuff there, but it's not really a news site. | ||
Educate themselves on the issues. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
And social media? | ||
Are you on social media? | ||
Where do they go? | ||
unidentified
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Yeah, hashtag Tegmark. | |
And to get your book? | ||
unidentified
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Amazon. | |
Amazon. | ||
Okay, fine. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
Thank you so much for coming on. | ||
And your escort today, he's being escorted by the Joe Allen, so it ought to be interesting. | ||
We look forward to seeing you at 1.30. | ||
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Thank you, sir. | ||
Mike Lindell. | ||
You're going to court, brother. | ||
You're going to court. | ||
Tell us about it. | ||
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MyPillow is going to jury trial everybody June 2nd. | ||
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We need your support. | ||
Call my operators. | ||
There it is. | ||
If you go to the website and click on Steve and scroll down, it's all there. | ||
Also, everybody, we have on the website, when you get there, you can learn all about what's happening with MyPillow and this trial, what it's all about. | ||
We've come this far. | ||
Everything, Steve, I waited this for four and a half years. | ||
This is going to be one of the most important trials, I believe, for election security ever. | ||
Slow down. | ||
Slow down. | ||
This is a bet the company move. | ||
Why didn't you just settle and just go along? | ||
Why are you betting your entire company on going to a jury trial, which, as everybody knows, could go one way or the other, particularly in Colorado, dude. | ||
That's kind of enemy territory. | ||
You got great people out there, but it's run by a bunch of maniacs. | ||
Yeah, it sure is. | ||
But this all ties in with Tina Peters and everything, everybody. | ||
It's all about one thing. | ||
I want to secure our elections. | ||
I've been fighting four and a half years for this. | ||
We've been attacked. | ||
You name it, it's happened with lawfare. | ||
I've been sued. | ||
My pillow's been sued. | ||
I got the attorney general of Minnesota attacking my Lindell recovery network and my foundations. | ||
It's all about my voice. | ||
They want me to shut up about the elections. | ||
And I will never stop, ever. | ||
And they've tried everything. | ||
They've attacked my pillow. | ||
Everyone says, well, Mike, look what you've done. | ||
Look what's happened to my pillow. | ||
You know what? | ||
We're still here because of you, Warm Room Posse, and God's grace. | ||
And, Steve, I would never settle. | ||
In fact, the attorneys even said to me, you know, Mike, we could settle. | ||
If you walked away and you just would never bring up these elections again, would you do it? | ||
I said, no. | ||
They could give me a trillion dollars and I wouldn't do it. | ||
I will never stop till we save this country. | ||
I told our great president just a few weeks ago, I said, sir, I promise you these next four years will not be in vain. | ||
We will secure our elections here and be like 132 other countries that have paper ballots hand counted. | ||
This is what we need to get to. | ||
We need to have the best elections in the world, not the worst. | ||
And we are going to get there, Steve, and we're under a timeline. | ||
We can't let our president's four years be just a blip in history and all for... | ||
We've got to win this. | ||
We've come this far. | ||
It all comes down to next week. | ||
I'm heading to Colorado tomorrow. | ||
I'm going to be there. | ||
It's like three weeks long, but June 2nd, the trial starts. | ||
And they come after my pillow. | ||
Like, my pillow and my employees, I was so upset when they all got sued. | ||
I'm going, what did they do? | ||
They're just USA employees, everybody. | ||
USA. | ||
You know, and it's disgusting, Steve, but I'm loving it because I'm there to fight. | ||
We know it. | ||
One more time, talk to us about the specials. | ||
I know you guys need funding, so where do people go? | ||
Yeah, we need, you guys, go to mypillow.com, go down to see Steve there, click on him. | ||
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Call 800-873-1062. | ||
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I want to get involved. | ||
And by the way, when you go to MyPillow, when you first get there, you guys, you're going to see all about the trial. | ||
You can click on that and check that out, what's going to happen. | ||
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We're kept... | ||
Keeping them at 50% off. | ||
God's given us grace. | ||
We've got to give God the glory. | ||
You guys can get them 50% off, but this is where we need help right now. | ||
This is the day, everybody. | ||
My employees, I'm reaching out for them, and we need funds for this trial, and we have to win. | ||
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Help support this fight that we're in to secure our elections. | ||
And Steve, we're so proud to be one of your great sponsors of your show because you've helped save this country as much or more than anyone. | ||
No, no, no, no. | ||
You're the one on the front line. | ||
Hell, you're going to the court. | ||
You're taking it. | ||
And Mike Lindell's not going to back down. | ||
He could have taken a deal. | ||
He's not going to take a deal. | ||
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Thank you, brother. | ||
Appreciate you. | ||
Thank you, Steve. | ||
We'll have you on every day, twice a day. | ||
We'll see you back here tonight. | ||
Jane Zirkle, Tina Peters, you wrote a brilliant piece. | ||
Tell me about it. | ||
Yeah, so Tina Peters, a 69-year-old Gold Star mother who is currently incarcerated at the La Vista Correctional Facility in Colorado. | ||
This facility is actually a rehabilitation facility. | ||
It has actually really incredible opportunities for inmates. | ||
It has a cosmetology program. | ||
It has an economic program. | ||
It has a... | ||
Honor House unit that essentially transitions prisoners back into society. | ||
And these are all great things, especially when they're implemented correctly. | ||
But what I examine in this piece is what good is rehabilitation when incarceration in the first place was unjust? | ||
And that, of course, is the case of Tina Peters, who is being held there as a political prisoner. | ||
Now, of course, she started at the Mesa County Jail, where she noted that she was in fear for her life. | ||
She was facing intimidation. | ||
She has a history of lung cancer and fibromyalgia, and this 69-year-old woman was forced to sleep on the top bunk with no ladder. | ||
That is not safe for anyone, let alone a woman with her conditions. | ||
And she told the guards, and they simply really didn't care. | ||
And this facility has a well-documented history of abuse, including the 2019 lawsuit that was filed by the ACLU. | ||
It was filed on behalf of a woman named Michelle Reynolds, who was wrongly incarcerated there for 15 days and denied a court appearance, denied the opportunity for a bond hearing. | ||
So she was well within her reasoning to be in fear for her life. | ||
Ultimately, she was transferred 300 miles away to the Larimer County Jail, which has a reputation for overcrowding and understaffing and is facing a lawsuit of its own regarding the suicide of 43-year-old Ryan Harmon. | ||
You took his own life after his cries for help were repeatedly ignored by the staff and faculty there. | ||
And so Colorado puts on this facade of being this progressive, reform-heavy criminal justice system, but in reality, it is really the epitome of the mass incarceration epidemic in America. | ||
Jane, can you hang over a second? | ||
I just want to hold you through the break. | ||
I've got a couple of questions about Tina, which is horrible, horrible, horrible. | ||
Short commercial break. | ||
John Solomon's also going to be with us to talk about the big, beautiful build next in the world. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
So the president of South Africa is coming. | ||
The president's got the president of South Africa for a lunch. | ||
I'm sure he's going to do a press avail. | ||
And this is driven by, you know, President Trump's office at golf are very close to people like Gary Player, Ernie Els, Ratif Goose, and I think Ratif Goose and Ernie Els are coming also. | ||
So the Real America Voice cover all of that. | ||
It's supposed to take place starting right now up until noon. | ||
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Jane Zirkle. | ||
Is Tina Peters... | ||
A political prisoner? | ||
And isn't the purpose of the case to torture her by Jared Polis and the people in Colorado, ma 'am? | ||
100 percent. | ||
Tina Peters simply told the truth about election fraud in Colorado. | ||
And as a result, Colorado State retaliated. | ||
And arguably, a large portion of people incarcerated in Colorado are political prisoners. | ||
They have an incarceration rate of 556 people per 100,000. | ||
That is higher than any Democratic country in the world. | ||
They have around 70,000 people on probation and parole and a large amount of their prison population. | ||
is a result of those parole and probation technical violations. | ||
They have mandatory maximum sentencing, which leaves no room for circumstance-based conditions for when judges hand down these sentences. | ||
They also have habitual offender laws, which is a three-strike-you're-out felony-type law that even if your third felony is nonviolent, you will receive a life sentence in prison. | ||
And increasingly, women are disproportionately affected in Colorado. | ||
They are being entrenched in this cycle of abuse and drug abuse, and they are just stuck here, and they're being increasingly incarcerated for nonviolent offenses. | ||
Jane Zirkle, where do people go on social media to get you, ma 'am? | ||
You can find me at Jane Zirkle on Getter, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Fantastic work on Tina Peters. | ||
Great. | ||
Jane Zirkle. | ||
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Thank you. | |
Maybe put her set of BOP. | ||
We're watching the arrival of the South African president. | ||
John Solomon, you said you've buried into these documents and you've got some ideas and concepts on the big, beautiful bill. | ||
The president's going to host the Freedom Caucus. | ||
I'm sure that's going to be lovely this afternoon at 3 o 'clock. | ||
What's your advice? | ||
Oh, man, I don't know. | ||
Listen, spend less and generate more money, right? | ||
I think that's the key. | ||
You've got to find revenue. | ||
I used to remember the old beer commercials. | ||
It tastes great, less filling. | ||
In Washington, the longer the bill stands in Congress, the more spending goes up and the less savings go down. | ||
They've got to stop it. | ||
And, you know, $1.7 trillion, which is where they'll be in this bill, is a good deal. | ||
It's a lot of savings. | ||
But it doesn't even cover the $2 trillion a year that we've added since COVID, right? | ||
So it's really a drop. | ||
Here is, I think, the notion that Congress is never going to solve this. | ||
They don't have the political will, whether Republicans are in power or not. | ||
They don't have the political will to rue the sort of cuts. | ||
But Marco Rubio can cut the State Department in half in a short period of time. | ||
I think the most important thing Donald Trump could come out of today's meeting with is a deal saying, put this language into the bill. | ||
Tell me that all congressional appropriations are a ceiling, not a floor. | ||
Meaning if I can deliver the programs for you at less than the money appropriated, I can give the money back. | ||
Now what have you done? | ||
Congress has empowered him. | ||
You don't have to do the stupid rescission votes, which never happened. | ||
You don't have to go to court and fight at it. | ||
Hang on. | ||
You want to codify impoundments. | ||
You're going to say, hey, it's a ceiling. | ||
That's impoundment. | ||
And if Trump doesn't like where the program's going, he can do that. | ||
Tell me how we're going to do that. | ||
It's a brilliant idea. | ||
How are we going to do that? | ||
Yeah, and listen, you have to fulfill the wish of Congress, and that's the important thing, so it is an impoundment, because that is a different process. | ||
If Donald Trump can deliver what Congress asked for in his administration, the agency delivers it, and he can do it for less. | ||
You just give the money back to the Treasury. | ||
That is a big thing. | ||
You want to be careful not to step on either branch's individual article powers. | ||
But by saying you'll fulfill Congress's wish, but if you do it cheaper, we're all CEOs, we're smart guys. | ||
The whole administration is full of ROI guys, right? | ||
They can do it. | ||
It shifts all of these onerous decisions away from Congress, where there's no will, to a CEO president that can cut it. | ||
Wow. | ||
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Wow. | |
The conservatives have been crying and bitching and whining, and they never cut a thing. | ||
They can't. | ||
The system won't let him do it. | ||
The conservatives tapped this along as everybody did. | ||
Beryl Howell just wrote a blistering 100-page opinion about President Trump trying to shut down the Institute of Peace that went right to the heart of this. | ||
She said it was unlawful 20 times. | ||
Your solution makes it lawful? | ||
Is that where we are? | ||
Yeah. | ||
You can have the Institutes of Peace at a fraction of the cost as long as it meets the objectives of what the Congress said. | ||
And then it goes on. | ||
Listen, how many times has Beryl Howell been reversed? | ||
She's going to be reversed again, right? | ||
It's not a doubt about her. | ||
She likes being reversed, I think. | ||
But yeah, it does. | ||
It solves these problems and it puts the chips in a place where there's political will to cut. | ||
Congress is too dysfunctional to cut meaningfully. | ||
Unbelievable. | ||
John, where do people go to get all your content, brother? | ||
Yeah, justinnews.com, and I get to like you. | ||
I follow you every day at 6 o 'clock here on Real America's Voice, and Jay Solomon reports on all of the social media platforms. | ||
Thank you, brother. | ||
Great idea. | ||
Good to be with you, Steve. | ||
Thank you. | ||
That means being discussed behind the scenes. | ||
This may be a thing. | ||
Pop up. | ||
Okay, Charlie Kirk. | ||
This is going to be action-packed at the White House on Capitol Hill all day into the night. | ||
Charlie Kirk's next. | ||
Poso after that. | ||
Steve Gruber after that. | ||
Eric Bolling after that. | ||
Then the War Room. | ||
Baby. | ||
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Wow. | |
What a morning. | ||
I think we covered the waterfront of this. | ||
Tomorrow, Alex Jones is going to join us. | ||
Tomorrow morning, Alex Jones is going to join us. | ||
Noor Ben Lund, back from Geneva. | ||
We've got so much going on. | ||
Also, trying to get General Flynn some discussion about Romania. | ||
Trying to track down General Flynn. | ||
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All of it. | |
Okay. | ||
We're back here at five. | ||
It's going to be a heck of an afternoon. | ||
Stick around to Real America's Voice. | ||
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Charlie Kirk, two hours of populist nationalism served up hot. | |
Next. |