May 19, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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That were given or not given. | |
| We know that they struggled with memory lapses during this conversation, but obviously hearing the tape is a different thing. | ||
| It does emphasize and underscore just how much trouble he had in that interview and why Robert Herr, the special counsel, decided not to bring charges. | ||
| Remember, Robert Herr said that he decided not to bring charges in part because the president seemed like a forgetful man. | ||
| And that that would be hard to convince a jury that he knowingly violated the law. | ||
| Well, how did he make that determination? | ||
| He made it in part through this interview that we're now hearing through this audio tape. | ||
| And therefore, hearing the audio tape does have a value in that sense to help us understand what Herr was evaluating. | ||
| Welcome back to the Weekend Prime Time. | ||
| We are starting this hour with our breaking news. | ||
| Former President Joe Biden has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer. | ||
| His personal office is saying in a statement that it appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management. | ||
| And Biden and his family are reviewing their treatment options with multiple physicians. | ||
| This cancer was diagnosed by urinary symptoms rather than the way we find it most of the time, which is what Joe Concha was asking in the last hour. | ||
| Usually we find it with no symptoms. | ||
| He's already got symptoms, which means it's pretty advanced. | ||
| He's having urinary symptoms heading towards urinary retention. | ||
| He's got spread of this prostate cancer to the bone in one spot, which is going to cause him pain. | ||
| And the biggest news we're hearing is that this particular cancer, which is quite aggressive, is testosterone dependent, meaning that the hormone testosterone is very involved with how aggressive it is, which means it should respond to anti-testosterone therapy, which is the mainstay of metastatic cancer. | ||
| To the point of people who are just tuning in, he has the most aggressive prostate cancer we ever find, and they got it after it has already spread beyond the prostate, which is very, very concerning. | ||
| Five-year survival rate... | ||
| The President Trump has weighed in saying that he and First Lady Melania Trump are hoping that former President Biden makes a full and speedy recovery. | ||
| We're also now hearing from former First Lady Hillary Clinton. | ||
| She's saying, I'm thinking of the Bidens as they take on cancer, a disease they've done so much to try to spare other families from, wishing you a speedy and full recovery. | ||
| We've also heard from Pete Buttigieg, who was during the Trump, during the Biden administration, rather, the transportation secretary. | ||
| He says, President Biden is a man of deep faith and extraordinary resilience. | ||
| Chastain and I, speaking of his husband, are keeping him and the entire Biden family in our prayers for strength and healing. | ||
| And it's interesting, of course, that there's talk of his deep faith and resilience. | ||
| We know, of course, that President Biden has been through a number of tragedies, including losing his first wife and daughter in a car accident. | ||
| And then later, his oldest son, Beau Biden, died of brain cancer. | ||
| So now folks close to President Biden and people who are familiar with his family's thinking about this. | ||
| Are telling me that he is getting ready to look at all the kinds of treatments he can get, thinking that hormone therapy might be the best treatment for this aggressive form of cancer, but they're keeping their options open as well as where he will be treated. | ||
| So we'll, of course, continue to bring you reactions as more people weigh in here. | ||
| Unlikely that someone could get annual checkups and not notice a PSA elevation over the past, you know. | ||
| This is what I typically would see in a VA hospital where a patient hasn't had medical attention in 10 years, presents to an emergency room with bone pain, and then they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. | ||
| But in the modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was a former president, he had intensive, state-of-the-art care where we can... | ||
| see prostate cancer, you know, 10 years in the past. | ||
| So this is, I mean, it's, it's very unusual to hear that someone has prostate cancer where they're annually being followed. | ||
| His medical condition now, his announced medical condition now, do you believe that silences or delays a lot of conversations about his last year and a half of his presidency for now? | ||
| Yeah, well, I think those conversations are going to happen, but they should be more muted and set aside for now as he's struggling. | ||
| So you were talking about the scrutiny, and two things. | ||
| First, let's start by saying that we wish President Biden the best for this fight, as you and Mika know so well. | ||
| He's fought through so much. | ||
| Your viewers will appreciate that in my newsletter this morning, Axios AM, we have a great photo of President Biden in his prime. | ||
| When he was vice president, it's a photo that author Mike Grunwald took of 2016 of Vice President Biden then, with a bus conductor in St. Paul. | ||
| And Mike noting how the effort that the vice president, then president, made to connect with everyone he saw. | ||
| Mike said, I hope he gets well soon. | ||
| He's been through a lot. | ||
| I think we all can see that. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| If you look at the signs beyond whether or not this test was done, whether or not something was missed. | ||
| If you look at the signs, That we're out there. | ||
| And as frontline journalists, we always look at this clinically. | ||
| It's never personal. | ||
| We study power. | ||
| We study institutions. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| One, if you look at the audio tapes that Axios posted over the weekend, five hours of tapes of President Biden being interviewed by the special counsel, Robert Herr. | ||
| Painful to listen to. | ||
| And I talked to a lot of people who've worked with President Biden, people who love President Biden, all the more painful for them. | ||
| This was obtained by Axios Alex Thompson, who's out with his book with Jake Tapper, Original Sin, and Mark Caputo. | ||
| And in these five hours of tapes, we hear, and the transcript was out, so the facts are not new. | ||
| But listening to this five hours of audio, which is up on Axios.com, you hear the then president grasping for dates, grasping for details, lawyers jumping in to try to help him answer the question. | ||
| The painful pauses. | ||
| This interview was done over two days, five total hours, in the map room of the White House. | ||
| You hear the ticking of a grandfather clock in the map room, in these painful... | ||
| Hearing this, beyond the words that we've heard and the records that we've seen, really brings into focus this question that so many Democrats are asking now is, how did we go down this road? | ||
| And Original Sin out tomorrow. | ||
| On the record, you have top... | ||
| Democratic officials saying that that decision to run again made things so much harder for them, for the party. | ||
| It's moving pretty fast, and I can't tell you for sure, but he didn't just get this overnight. | ||
| He's had this for months and months, even if it is aggressive. | ||
| It's a Gleason 9, which means under the microscope, Group 5, under the microscope, it's quite aggressive. | ||
| They find that it's responsive to... | ||
| Antitestosterone-type therapy. | ||
| We have that. | ||
| We have it in oral form now. | ||
| We have it in an injectable form. | ||
| So he will probably get that treatment. | ||
| He should get personalized treatment, too. | ||
| There's a lot of debate about whether you should do surgery, whether you should do radiation, what you should do to that bone metastasy. | ||
| The fact that there's only one is better than if there was more than that. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| you It's Monday, 19 May, year of our Lord, 2020. | ||
| I thought we were going to be dealing with the budget, what happened last night at 10 o 'clock. | ||
| Andy Harris from the head of the Freedom Caucus is going to join us here in a few months in the next block. | ||
| Laura Loomer is going to also join us on this Joe Biden situation. | ||
| And Congressman Burleson has done a great job of a video talk about this situation with Medicaid. | ||
| We're trying to get Burleson for the 11 o 'clock hour. | ||
| But we have to start with this. | ||
| I thought this was the, as you know from my rants on Saturday when Marco Puto was on, I thought that her situation and how that had been handled, and to put it bluntly, covered up, was something that had to go to the top of the DOJ, top of the house, for a formal investigation to adjudicate this, then a bombshell yesterday. | ||
| And I want to go back and get, I want to pull Schusterman and His buried lead, this was like somebody also tells you about the treatment of our veterans at VA hospitals. | ||
| He says it's something like you see at a VA hospital where somebody walks in and what they're talking about is one of these veterans, probably a homeless vet, that hasn't had any medical diagnosis for 10 years. | ||
| 10 years. | ||
| This guy, and look, the family situation, his personal situation, You know, best of luck. | ||
| I'm sure somehow you'll try to figure something out. | ||
| That's not what this is about. | ||
| This is about this republic, and this is about a Praetorian Guard, and it's deeper than the media. | ||
| I said this the other day. | ||
| It's deeper than the media. | ||
| It's deeper than the Grundunes, his political operatives in the White House. | ||
| This is... | ||
| They knew he was not mentally fit even when they put him in in 2020 and got rid of... | ||
| Got rid of Bernie Sanders and got rid of Elizabeth Warren, the two frontrunners, right? | ||
| To put him in because they realized he was controllable and, you know, a pleasant enough cipher that they could then, you know, generate, I don't know, six, seven, eight million phony ballots and defeat Trump in 2020. | ||
| Yes, the 2020 stolen election. | ||
| We're going there on a Monday morning in May of 25 because until we get to the bottom of this publicly and get it all out, You're not going to have a constitutional republic. | ||
| You can hum a few bars, but you're not going to have one. | ||
| Then everything to do to protect this guy as commander-in-chief when he wasn't up to the job as commander-in-chief. | ||
| And now to know that he's had, I can't, this just didn't appear, what is it, a Gleason 9? | ||
| This just didn't appear overnight. | ||
| They take us for fools and no Axelrod. | ||
| There's not going to be a pause. | ||
| It's not going to be muted. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| Let me play Schustermer again. | ||
| Listen to the doc. | ||
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Unlikely that someone could get annual checkups and not notice a PSA elevation over the past, you know, this is what I typically would see in a VA hospital. | |
| Where a patient hasn't had medical attention in 10 years presents to an emergency room with bone pain, and then they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. | ||
| But in the modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was a former president, he had intensive, state-of-the-art care where we can see prostate cancer 10 years in the past. | ||
| It's very unusual to hear that someone has prostate cancer where they're annually being followed up. | ||
| They ought to seize every record of Walter Reed regarding Biden. | ||
| They ought to seize every record of the, I assume, the Navy doctors that took care of him at the White House. | ||
| They ought to seize every record right now. | ||
| This has to be a formal inquiry. | ||
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A formal inquiry. | |
| About exactly what in the hell went on in this White House. | ||
| We would bang it every day. | ||
| Remember I told you it was an illegitimate regime? | ||
| You heard that every now and again? | ||
| You heard that elections have consequences and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Look at the catastrophic consequences we're dealing with. | ||
| Andy Harris is going to be here in a moment. | ||
| We've got a structural, massive problem right now that President Trump and his team are trying to dig us out of. | ||
| With the help of folks over in the House. | ||
| Look at the world. | ||
| President Trump's on the phone with Putin, even as we speak, I think, to try to sort this mess out in Ukraine. | ||
| These are not random. | ||
| It's all inextricably linked, and it's all inextricably linked back to a stolen election with a total fraud. | ||
| And the Praetorian Guard protected it the entire way. | ||
| His incompetence, his dementia, his beginning Alzheimer's. | ||
| His cancer. | ||
| And they had the gall to try to run him again. | ||
| And guess what they're going to do this month? | ||
| Oh, they got cancer. | ||
| Kamala Harris is your president for the next four years. | ||
| She couldn't win on her own. | ||
| No, David Oxfair, we're not going to mute this. | ||
| We're not going to step down. | ||
| We're going to ratchet it up. | ||
| We need and demand a formal investigation. | ||
| Go to Walter Reed and seize the records right now. | ||
| Go to the White House physician's office down there on the first floor. | ||
| Seize the record so they can't, you know, lose them. | ||
| Like they somehow find out they lose everything. | ||
| We've got to put the hammer down on this. | ||
| For the good, if we're ever to be a constitutional republic again, it's got to start here. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| We agreed to get it out of the budget committee, into the rules committee. | ||
| There's really one more step after that to get it to the floor and to get the big, beautiful bill to the Senate. | ||
| I think we're highly, highly optimistic as in 100% we're going to get that bill to the Senate 100%. | ||
| We're going to pass this bill by the middle of the summer. | ||
| And the reason is that the bill is so well crafted. | ||
| First, it's got the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which is stuff that we passed in 2017. | ||
| And it all works exactly the way we said. | ||
| We got the 3% growth. | ||
| We got the 6,000. | ||
| And so the new CEA study shows that this is a home run of a bill for the American people. | ||
| And that's really what I think the big news of the weekend is that we got that through what I think is probably the final tough hurdle of the House, which is the House Budget Committee, which is the toughest place to get it through. | ||
| Okay, by the way, Wall Street Journal has a piece out this morning. | ||
| Citizen Kane over Citizens Free Press has it as his lead. | ||
| He's talking about the deficit increasing by $3 trillion on this bill. | ||
| So we're going to get it all sorted. | ||
| We've got Congressman Andy Harris from Maryland One, but he's head of the Freedom Caucus. | ||
| So, Congressman, people are looking at the Freedom Caucus as the deficit hawks here. | ||
| We noticed people didn't vote yes last night or no last night. | ||
| They kind of voted, you know, present. | ||
| What's the status? | ||
| Is this thing going to get through? | ||
| And more importantly, are we going to get some more significant cuts out of this so that the deficit doesn't increase, particularly in the short term? | ||
| Sir? | ||
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Well, look, I'm going to disagree with the economic advisor you just had on. | |
| This is not 100 percent guaranteed. | ||
| It's far from it. | ||
| The bottom line is if we don't get significant spending reduction in line to offset Moody's downgrade last week, this bill is not going anywhere this week. | ||
| The bottom line is that the ground has changed last week. | ||
| That Moody's downgrade, we were warning about it in the Freedom Caucus for really years that we have to get our debt and deficit in order. | ||
| You know, they're whistling past the graveyard. | ||
| It's like, that never happened. | ||
| But it did happen. | ||
| And we have to get back to pre-COVID spending levels wherever we can. | ||
| We certainly can with Medicaid because the fraud, waste and abuse, the gaming of the system, the giving benefits to, you know, two and a half million illegal immigrants. | ||
| I mean, this is ridiculous. | ||
| It has to stop. | ||
| We have a long way to go. | ||
| We don't get there by Wednesday. | ||
| And the word is they want to have this vote Wednesday. | ||
| There's just no way it's passing on Wednesday. | ||
| One of the issues I keep hearing about is that some of the hardliners in the Freedom Caucus that want to address Medicaid, and remember, I think 25% of MAG is on Medicaid, so people have got to be very careful here, but the work requirements can't start in 2019. | ||
| You've got to bring those forward until today. | ||
| The illegal aliens have got to go, all these basic requirements. | ||
| But there's some discussion about, or confusion I think from other people, about Obamacare expansion. | ||
| And actually going after that. | ||
| Is that an issue? | ||
| I think it's FMAP. | ||
| Is that an issue? | ||
| Can you explain to people in kind of, you know, basic English what exactly this fight is over Medicaid spending? | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's a huge issue. | ||
| Steve, Obamacare attempted to get everybody on Medicaid for all. | ||
| So what it does, it is said, you know, traditional Medicaid, it's for the disabled, for pregnant, for children. | ||
| You know, it's for the poor. | ||
| I mean, it's for the people who really needed health care and had no other access to health insurance, really. | ||
| But what Obamacare did is it said, we're going to allow you to get into Medicaid. | ||
| You're a 25-year-old, healthy young. | ||
| Young male, you feel like you don't want to work and want to live in your parents' basement, yeah, we'll pay for your Medicaid, too. | ||
| And not only we'll pay for it, we'll pay seven times more, the federal contribution vis-a-vis the state's contribution, for this healthy expansion population. | ||
| And look, that was the carrot to get these states to expand Medicaid. | ||
| The result was a 40 percent increase in Medicaid expenditures over the past five years from pre-COVID levels. | ||
| 40%. | ||
| The Biden administration went further. | ||
| They said, oh, by the way, you don't need to check on qualifications that often. | ||
| You know, it was all after COVID. | ||
| You don't need to do that. | ||
| The bottom line is, this is the most rapidly growing part of the budget. | ||
| It's growing more rapidly than Medicare, more rapidly than Social Security, and it's all because of the Obamacare expansion. | ||
| So what we have to do is we have to say, no, no, if you want to expand, that's fine, but you're not getting paid. | ||
| Seven times as much by the federal government as what you're getting paid for your high-risk population, for your needy population. | ||
| We'll just pay you at the same rate. | ||
| If we did that, all those states would stop expanding Medicaid. | ||
| And again, a lot of those people qualify for Obamacare. | ||
| They can go on the subject, but they've got to pay a premium. | ||
| They've got to pay some. | ||
| And of course, if they're able to work, they should work. | ||
| We have to get that, because if we don't... | ||
| The remaining dozen or so states that have not expanded into that population will expand, and that will cost about a half a trillion dollars over the next 10 years. | ||
| It'll wipe out all the projected savings from things like work requirements and throwing illegals off. | ||
| It'll wipe out all that, and it'll increase our budget deficit. | ||
| We can't do that anymore. | ||
| The bottom line is times have changed since last week. | ||
| We can't do it. | ||
| And they're pretending. | ||
| I mean, look, that economic advice is pretending like Moody's didn't downgrade us last week. | ||
| They did. | ||
| Interest rates will go up. | ||
| We don't even know, Steve, what the cost of that interest rate increase is going to be on our deficit for the next 10 years. | ||
| But it will be significant because the markets already responded this morning with bond rates going up. | ||
| Yeah, I think the 30 is over 5 and the 10 is over 4.5. | ||
| So what's the pushback? | ||
| What you just laid out sounds perfectly logical. | ||
| It takes care of MAGA. | ||
| You've got to work. | ||
| It's only 80 hours as a minimum. | ||
| You can't have this kind of essentially money laundering the seven times more. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Then what's the pushback from your other House members, from the Speaker and other House members? | ||
| Forget the White House. | ||
| Just inside the House Republican caucus, how could this not be fairly self-evident, sir? | ||
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Because there are a handful of moderates who claim that they will be defeated in the next election if somehow we gut Medicaid. | |
| We're not gutting Medicaid. | ||
| We're preserving it for the truly needy. | ||
| The bottom line is we have to get to that next election. | ||
| I will tell you, after that Moody's downgrade, there is a chance that this spirals out of control in the next 18 months. | ||
| It definitely will spiral out of control in the next three years. | ||
| We have to do something. | ||
| Look, if you came to Washington to get reelected, go back home. | ||
| Because that's not what this country needs. | ||
| This country needs a group of men and women who came to save the country. | ||
| And that means occasionally you have to take a really tough vote and then convince your constituents of why you did it. | ||
| This one is crystal clear. | ||
| They should be able to go back home and convince people why they did it to save our country. | ||
| Is this the central issue that we're dealing with now? | ||
| Are there other issues that rise to this level? | ||
| Or if not, what are the other two or three secondary issues? | ||
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There are a couple of other issues, but this is the big one. | |
| Again, because this is the largest growing program in the federal government. | ||
| So this is a big one. | ||
| Obviously, we have dealt with the food stamp issue. | ||
| That was the second largest growing program in the federal government. | ||
| And again, we should be looking to return to pre-COVID spending levels wherever we can. | ||
| So DOGE got a good start. | ||
| The administration, by cutting a lot of the grants to non-governmental organizations or NGOs, that's a good start. | ||
| But we have a long way to go. | ||
| The most important thing we have to do with this bill is to make sure it doesn't increase our deficit in the next five years. | ||
| And, Steve, that's the game here. | ||
| You know, the deficit goes up in the first five years and then goes down, quote, goes down in the second five years. | ||
| We'll never get to the second five years. | ||
| Because if we have the fiscal collapse, what I call, and interest rates go to 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 percent, as they did in the 80s, this whole house of cards falls down. | ||
| Is anybody working, like, is Treasury or OMB or HACET at NEC, National Economic Council, has anybody put out a set of math that you guys can sit there and you can actually show them, hey, the deficit goes up in the first couple of years, like the Wall Street Journal is saying today, so we can't do that because we'll never get to the back end. | ||
| We'll never get to where the structural cuts are. | ||
| Has anybody sat in a room with people and say, that's just not logical and let's figure out how we don't do that? | ||
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Steve, the amazing thing is everybody knows that's true. | |
| This is the old Washington game. | ||
| We're going to look at a 10-year budget window. | ||
| We're going to do all the spending up front. | ||
| We're going to do the savings at the tail end, and we never get to the tail end. | ||
| The bottom line is this is the way the swamp has worked. | ||
| Look, this is my 15th year. | ||
| I can't believe that this happens time and time again. | ||
| This is just the latest iteration, but now we can't afford to make this mistake again. | ||
| We literally can't afford. | ||
| This is existential. | ||
| Again, If the bond markets fail, the spiral will be out of control. | ||
| I hope President Trump doesn't want that to occur under his watch. | ||
| I'm sure he doesn't. | ||
| The best way to avoid it is to solve this Medicaid issue in this bill. | ||
| And you're confident in solving this, you're not eviscerating MAGA, the 25% of MAGA that's on Medicaid, sir? | ||
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Well, look, if somebody is not working, they should be working. | |
| It's the bottom line. | ||
| That's a message we should send. | ||
| Otherwise, let's just become Democrats and give everybody money not to work and to go on welfare. | ||
| With regards to the rest of it, it's now going to be a state decision. | ||
| So all we're doing is we're saying, look, states, you've got to pay your fair share for that expansion population. | ||
| It's a state decision to get them off of that. | ||
| And that's what we have to talk about. | ||
| We have to talk about this is unfair. | ||
| You know, if a state wants to do it, your argument is not with the federal government. | ||
| It's not with your federal representatives. | ||
| It's actually with your state representatives who don't want to foot the bill for their citizens. | ||
| I know you've got to bounce, but you're saying right now, the way you see it, you don't see getting to a vote by Wednesday, sir? | ||
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Oh, they may bring it up for a vote by Wednesday, but they better be prepared to lose because there is no way this passes on Wednesday without another major spending reduction in this package. | |
| I mean, I just know where the votes are. | ||
| I know who the people are. | ||
| There are a group of people like me who didn't come to Washington to get reelected. | ||
| We came to Washington to save the country. | ||
| And again, look, the president is likely to call me. | ||
| I'm just going to tell the president, look, Mr. President, you don't want this bill. | ||
| I'm voting to make sure that we don't have a fiscal collapse, and that's the way it is. | ||
| And I hope the president listens to the message. | ||
| Where do people follow you on social media, Congressman? | ||
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They go to Rep. | |
| Andy Harris. | ||
| They go to harris.house.gov. | ||
| We've got a Twitter account, an X account, and we will be tweeting about this over the next few days. | ||
| We understand. | ||
| Congressman, thank you for coming on and thank you for being so blunt. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| That was no happy talk. | ||
| That was pretty blunt. | ||
| Refreshing. | ||
| Refreshingly blunt. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to dive deep into this budget today. | ||
| Also, a cover-up that makes Watergate look like a Sunday afternoon church picnic. | ||
| That's this illegitimate Biden regime. | ||
| Flourishing in their illegitimacy after they've been tossed from office. | ||
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Next. | |
| Because it was a four-lane highway that was accessible, my mother drove us, and rather than us be able to walk. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| The first frost, you know what was happening. | ||
| You had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window. | ||
| That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up have cancer, and why I can't for the longest time. | ||
| Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation. | ||
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Unlikely that someone could get annual checkups and not notice a PSA elevation over the past, you know, but this is what I typically would see in a VA hospital where a patient hasn't had medical attention in 10 years. | |
| He presents to an emergency room with bone pain, and then they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. | ||
| But in the modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was a former president, he had intensive, state-of-the-art care where we can see prostate cancer 10 years in the past. | ||
| It's very unusual to hear that someone has prostate cancer where they're annually being followed up. | ||
| Okay, we're going to get back to the budget and budget deficits here in a moment. | ||
| I want to bring in Laura Loomer, who joins us by phone. | ||
| She's traveling. | ||
| Laura, correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| Didn't you put out a quite controversial tweet? | ||
| I'm shocked I'm saying this. | ||
| I'm connecting Laura Loomer with a controversial tweet. | ||
| Didn't you put in a controversial tweet a year or so ago saying that Biden had an emergency, some medical emergency on Air Force One, and they might divert the plane or something, but later they denied it? | ||
| Did you know about this early on, ma 'am? | ||
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Yes, on July 5th, I believe that's the date, I tweeted that Joe Biden was having a medical emergency on Air Force One. | |
| I said it's happening right now. | ||
| Biden just had a medical emergency on Air Force One, and press access has been removed. | ||
| And the tweet was seen about 40 million times. | ||
| Elon Musk reacted to it. | ||
| And I was demonized in the media. | ||
| They said I made up the story. | ||
| They said it was fake news. | ||
| And then days later, I said Biden is very ill. | ||
| He's in Delaware. | ||
| His family is making final preparations for him. | ||
| He is in the terminal phase of his illness, and Kamala Harris might indeed take over the responsibilities for Biden as president. | ||
| He might succumb to his terminal illness. | ||
| And I had been told by a source that Biden had entered the terminal phase of his illness. | ||
| Terminal means six months to one year left to live. | ||
| Of course, there's always outliers. | ||
| But that was last July. | ||
| And so we are now at the end of May, almost. | ||
| You know, a lot of people are wondering whether or not Joe Biden is going to be dead within the next 30, 60 to 90 days. | ||
| And that would, of course, follow the timeline of my exclusive reporting last year in July. | ||
| And now you see Jay Tapper and all these people in the left-wing media who said that I was spreading conspiracies come out with, really, the same exact information. | ||
| Massive cover-up here, and it looks like now doctors are finally admitting that Biden appears to have had cancer throughout his entire presidency. | ||
| You had a doctor that went on MSDNC this morning and said it's very unlikely, nearly impossible for the president of the United States of America, who gets multiple checkups per year, To not have a PSA level detected for the cancer to spread to his bones. | ||
| And now you see all these gaffes in the media that they said, oh, you know, it was a gaffe. | ||
| It was a gaffe. | ||
| He's just, you know, an old forgetful man. | ||
| You know, Biden flipped up several times and said he had cancer. | ||
| He had a colonoscopy, if you recall, where Kamala Harris briefly assumed the power of the presidency. | ||
| And everybody thought it was very bizarre for a routine colonoscopy. | ||
| But now we know. | ||
| Probably wasn't a routine colonoscopy. | ||
| It probably was a very invasive procedure. | ||
| And given the fact that Biden was terminally ill at the time, they probably wondered if he was going to die on the operating room table. | ||
| You're a warrior in the information war. | ||
| It's all about narratives. | ||
| How, walk me through how the Her Tape First off, the hurt take gets released because Caputo says, hey, I'm the first guy to ask for it back in January. | ||
| And they didn't have it. | ||
| The landing team or the beachhead team couldn't find it. | ||
| Number one, why is it Axios putting this out and it's not the administration, not the Justice Department, the FBI announcing there's been an investigation on this thing since the afternoon of January 20th, 2021? | ||
| And then... | ||
| Did the left panic, and that's why they finally said, oh, we've got to bury that by saying he's about to die, and you get Axelrod saying, oh, all the discussion now about her must be muted or must be taken down a couple of notches, ma 'am? | ||
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I think that there's a pervasive rot that still exists within the DOJ. | |
| I think it's really suspicious. | ||
| And then, look, I like Mark Caputo as a person, but I do think it's a little bizarre that under the current Trump administration, a leftist publication was able to get the, you know, exclusive access to this tape that even conservatives, conservative organizations, watchdog organizations, filed FOIA requests to receive and never once received. | ||
| So again, it's like this typical trend that we oftentimes see within the Trump administration. | ||
| And I'm not blaming President Trump for this, but oftentimes some of his staff or some of his officials will reward fake news entities, right? | ||
| It's not like Axios was really... | ||
| Ahead of the curve on this. | ||
| They're now trying to take credit and Alex Thompson is peddling his book with Jay Tapper. | ||
| But if you recall, all of these outlets demonized conservatives were even daring to question whether or not Joe Biden had a mental deficiency or some kind of illness. | ||
| They said it was deepfakes. | ||
| They said that the images that we were posting were artificial intelligence deepfakes. | ||
| And so I would question the intentions of the DOJ. | ||
| It's no surprise that I don't think that Pam Blondie is doing a good job. | ||
| I think that it speaks volumes, as I said before, that Axios was able to get the exclusive audio tapes that allows the left-wing media. | ||
| To control the narrative on this, even though they completely demonized Donald Trump, demonized all of his supporters for years. | ||
| I mean, look, we've been calling out Joe Biden for almost six years now. | ||
| This isn't just something new. | ||
| If you recall, even Barack Hussein Obama said, never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to F things up. | ||
| That's a direct Obama quote. | ||
| And he was saying that because Joe Biden had so many gaffes. | ||
| And we now know these were not gaffes. | ||
| He has had an illness for probably, you know, 10 to 12 years now that has been cumulative over time. | ||
| And now he's in the terminal terminal stage of his illness, as I reported a year ago. | ||
| So I. I don't think people should be applauding Axios. | ||
| I don't think people should be applauding Jake Tapper. | ||
| I don't think people should be applauding or rewarding Alex Thompson with book sales either. | ||
| I think that there needs to be mass condemnation. | ||
| David Axelrod says because of the expose of the cancer, I mean, they treat us like idiots, so they reveal the cancer on Sunday after this thing blows up on Friday night and Saturday. | ||
| What then is to be done? | ||
| What is your recommendation to DOJ? | ||
| What's your recommendation to the House? | ||
| What's your recommendation to investigative reporters? | ||
| What should be done here, given you may not have Biden around in six, seven, eight months, ma 'am? | ||
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As I reported last year, I said that it was my belief that Dr. Kevin O 'Connor, who was the White House physician, was fabricating Biden's medical records. | |
| I think that now appears to be correct. | ||
| And I would immediately encourage the DOJ to investigate Dr. Kevin O 'Connor. | ||
| I think that his medical license should be revoked. | ||
| I think that they should subpoena him and ask him why he... | ||
| I mean, that's what it looks like. | ||
| It looks like Kevin O'Connor fabricated Joe Biden's medical records. | ||
| You see the report that he released in a letter from physician to the president at the white house on official letter letterhead on February 16th of 2023, in which he said that I quote conducted a comprehensive review of president Biden's medical history and a detailed physical examination. | ||
| And in which he said that he had perfect health. | ||
| So, uh, You know, there definitely needs to be an investigation into all of the physicians who paid Joe Biden visits, and that's not just Dr. Kevin O 'Connor. | ||
| That would also include Dr. Kevin Cannard, who is the Parkinson's disease specialist. | ||
| Who met with Joe Biden and Dr. Kevin O 'Connor at the White House on January 17, 2024. | ||
| I think that all of his staff need to be subpoenaed. | ||
| And there needs to be an investigation and charges brought against Dr. Jill, the fake doctor, who has committed elder abuse. | ||
| And we also need to investigate the legitimacy of all of the pardons, as Ed Martin said, because, well, if Joe Biden had cancer and he was terminally ill... | ||
| That means that these auto pen pardons are completely illegitimate. | ||
| So that would be my recommendation. | ||
| I don't think that these physicians should be allowed to practice medicine anymore. | ||
| And you think this should come from DOJ and FBI, that a formal investigation, they should subpoena these records today, I think maybe even seize whatever's over at Walter Reed, that this should begin immediately and this should be a formal inquiry? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I mean, this is the biggest—this, in my opinion, is the biggest political scandal to ever come out of the White House for any president in U.S. history. | ||
| We're talking about potentially an illegitimate occupant of the White House, a man who stole the election. | ||
| And not only did he steal the election, but it appears that his wife and all of the White House staff and all of the White House aides and the White House physicians and medical staff at Walter Reed engaged in a criminal coverup of fabricating medical records to hide the fact that Joe Biden had cancer and other issues as well, cognitive issues, for the entirety of his presidency. | ||
| I mean, you have the admission from him on video that you played at the top of the show. | ||
| Saying that he had cancer in 2022. | ||
| And now you also have physicians on MSDNC and CNN coming out this morning saying that it's impossible. | ||
| It is impossible with Joe Biden's level of care and the type of medical checkups and tests that he was being subjected to every single year, multiple times a year as president of the United States. | ||
| Illegitimate, of course. | ||
| For them to miss this. | ||
| For them to miss this. | ||
| It just doesn't happen overnight. | ||
| You don't get cancer that spreads to your bones overnight. | ||
| So there needs to be a criminal investigation and needs to be more than just an investigation because I know I speak for many in the horror room audience, Steve. | ||
| When I say we're sick and tired of the blowhards and the GOP talking about their nonsense investigations. | ||
| We want people to go to jail. | ||
| We don't want to have James Comer talk about this so then, you know, James Comer can go write another crappy book about his investigation into Joe Biden. | ||
| You know, we've had enough books. | ||
| If you want to write a book, then drop out of Congress and go write a book. | ||
| You know, go join James Comey and you guys can hang out with your seashells and write books together on the beach somewhere. | ||
| I just think we need to have real investigations, and there needs to actually be some accountability. | ||
| We need to see people go to jail. | ||
| We are months into the Trump administration, past the 100-day mark, and Pam Blondie has failed to bring any real charges against anybody, Steve. | ||
| It's an abomination. | ||
| As I reported this weekend, you have James Comey's daughter and James Comey's son-in-law. | ||
| Still working at the DOJ. | ||
| When are these people going to get fired? | ||
| Cleaning house means cleaning house. | ||
| It appears that we were lied to by people in the FBI and people in the new DOJ who told us we were going to have a day one reset. | ||
| And we've had, the Justice Department have had these tapes since the afternoon of 20 January 2021. | ||
| It's fine the media got them, but what action? | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Brennan, Comey, Milley, all of them. | ||
| Laura, what's your social media? | ||
| Where do people get you, ma 'am? | ||
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You can follow me on x at Laura Loomer and also at Loomer Unleashed. | |
| And you can visit my website, Loomer.com, for all types of exclusive reporting you're not going to see anywhere else. | ||
| And catch my show on Rumble every Tuesday and Thursday, 9 p.m. Eastern, rumble.com slash Laura Loomer. | ||
| Laura, thank you for taking time away today. | ||
| I know you're traveling to join us by phone. | ||
| Laura Loomer. | ||
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Thanks for having me. | |
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Laura Loomer is correct. | ||
| Point blank. | ||
| This is 10x bigger than Watergate. | ||
| 10x. | ||
| You had an illegitimate president. | ||
| I'm a guy go back to the railhead. | ||
| I said from the beginning, you got to investigate 2020. | ||
| This is all of a piece. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we told you they were crooks. | ||
| We told you he was illegitimate. | ||
| And now in May of 2025, they finally released a tape so you can listen with your own ears, hear what you hear. | ||
| Then they dropped the bombshell. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| He's got cancer. | ||
| Terminal. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Can I play the... | ||
| Can we pull the Kevin Hassett that led off Andy Harris's, Congressman Harris's. | ||
| Tell me, Denver, when you play that, let's go ahead and play it, because I want to make sure the audience, that we're all understanding what the music and the lyrics are here. | ||
| Okay, go ahead and play it. | ||
| First, it's a massive victory to get it out of the Budget Committee, into the Rules Committee. | ||
| There's really one more step after that to get it to the floor and to get the big, beautiful bill to the Senate. | ||
| I think we're highly, highly optimistic as in 100% we're going to get that bill to the Senate, 100% we're going to pass this bill by the middle of the summer. | ||
| And the reason is that the bill is so well crafted. | ||
| First, it's got the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which is stuff that we passed in 2017, and it all works exactly the way we said. | ||
| We got the 3% growth. | ||
| $6,500 in wage growth and so on. | ||
| And now we're adding new things like the no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. | ||
| They're going to make it even better, even faster growing and so on. | ||
| And so the new CEA study shows that this is a home run of a bill for the American people. | ||
| And that's really what I think the big news of the weekend is that we got that through what I think is probably the final tough hurdle of the House, which is the House Budget Committee, which is the toughest place to get it through. | ||
| So you heard Andy Harris say, "Hey, they still gotta..." and look, let's just notify that President Trump is now on the phone with Putin. | ||
| So President Trump in the three big areas trying to end the kinetic part of the Third World War and get some sort of Russian rapprochement so we can put Ukraine and then this situation in Persia, put them to bed because they need to be put to bed. | ||
| And so President Trump's doing that. | ||
| They've got a fantastic piece in The Federalist today about how this judicial revolt is actually a judicial coup against the commander-in-chief. | ||
| It's a must-read by Margot Cleveland. | ||
| I've got that up on Getter. | ||
| You've got to read that. | ||
| On this, I mean, can you solve the Medicaid problem and try to reverse this expansion in one fell swoop? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Here's what I do know. | ||
| You can't have... | ||
| So maybe that's and that structurally is a big issue. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| And there's a lot of people worked up about it. | ||
| And we don't want to cut Medicaid to the folks that need it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like I said, 25 percent, I think 25 percent of MAGA is on Medicaid. | ||
| You don't want to cut Medicaid to those who need it. | ||
| But it's got to be very restrictive. | ||
| You get no two and a half million illegal aliens. | ||
| All got to go. | ||
| The able-bodied that got to have a minimum work requirement or volunteer requirement or school requirement, technical training, think it's 80 hours a month? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| It should be 80 hours a week, okay? | ||
| People got to be out there working or trying to find work. | ||
| But about this expansion, it's going to be a fight. | ||
| My issue is just to pull back the camera and just look at Andy Harris's. | ||
| You've got this 10-year budget, and the scam's always the same. | ||
| The savings all come in the out years, and they never materialize. | ||
| They just never materialize. | ||
| So now we've got the increase in spending for the deportations, which you need, the defense, which I don't think you need. | ||
| I think it's nice to have. | ||
| I think we'd like to have it, but we're in a must-have-it situation right now. | ||
| The bottom line, the Wall Street Journal's got that article up. | ||
| Everybody ought to read it. | ||
| And you know, I'm no fan of the Wall Street Journal, particularly the editorial page. | ||
| But I think their numbers are pretty solid. | ||
| This is what I've been saying. | ||
| The deficit does increase in the first couple of years. | ||
| I don't think we're... | ||
| And what the plan was, and the plan is a good plan. | ||
| It's not a perfect plan, but get the deficit from 6.5% of GDP down to 3.5% of GDP. | ||
| Now, if there are other revenue streams... | ||
| That people are not taking consideration, like the external revenue service and tariffs? | ||
| You've already had a record month in tariffs. | ||
| Maybe the tariffs have got a couple hundred billion dollars. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That hasn't been formally laid out, I don't think. | ||
| This is why I keep saying that somebody's got to put forward a model. | ||
| HACCP doesn't need to come on and continue to talk about the politics of it. | ||
| What we need to do is have an adult's conversation, then debate, then discussion, then yelling at each other. | ||
| But around a set of math that people agree. | ||
| So everything ought to be thrown into the kitty. | ||
| Number one, Hassan just said there's no tax on Social Security. | ||
| I didn't see that. | ||
| I see where there's $4,000 that you can put to it, but you're still taxing Social Security. | ||
| So I think it's pretty unclear on some of the revenue side. | ||
| But on the cost side, on the revenue side, if you've got money coming in from tariffs and you think it's pretty consistent, let's show it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| If we got monies coming in from any other ways, let's show it. | ||
| Let's get an agreed-upon growth rate. | ||
| At least we can say, okay, that sounds logical. | ||
| Then that drives the rest of revenue. | ||
| Let's show it. | ||
| Let's show every aspect of cutting. | ||
| And I think it's going to become evident of the defense and other discretionary spending. | ||
| I don't know how you don't go after this. | ||
| You've got to show that you're bending the arc on the... | ||
| You know, on the deficits from 6.5 down to 3.5 as percentage of GDP. | ||
| The downgrade, and Scott Besson said it's backward-looking. | ||
| Okay, it's backward-looking. | ||
| But it's still a fact. | ||
| We still have, and because all the great efforts Scott Besson's doing, taking over from Yellen, the debt's still at, what, 36.5, but the moment we pass the debt ceiling increase, it's going to go up to 37 because of all the extraordinary measures he's going to do. | ||
| We're going to be lifted, and it'll become part of the debt. | ||
| Also, just the math, if you have fiscal year 25, which ends September 30, because we took Biden's, the illegitimate Biden budget, right? | ||
| Which we did. | ||
| This was the speaker. | ||
| And we're doing this in fiscal year 26. It starts October 1st. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Show me the math that shows that we don't blow through. | ||
| The $4 trillion added to the debt ceiling. | ||
| So we're now at $40 trillion by the midterm elections. | ||
| Just somebody showed me a model that shows us. | ||
| So we looked and said, okay, I see these assumptions. | ||
| I agree with that, that, that. | ||
| Maybe I don't agree with this. | ||
| Also, the cuts that Dozier's supposed to find. | ||
| I understand that they're now trying to be codified in some sort of rescissions. | ||
| Let's see what that number is. | ||
| Let's get it all on the table so that we can all speak for him. | ||
| And so the president. | ||
| You can see this. | ||
| I'm not sure he's shown all the numbers. | ||
| I just don't know. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So Russ ought to come out and Hassett and Scott and they ought to work together and we ought to get a set of numbers and then with Andy and these guys say, hey look, maybe we can't do everything. | ||
| You're trying to reverse Obamacare, at least aspects of it. | ||
| Maybe that's doable and maybe all of it's not doable. | ||
| But that's the discussion we've got to have this weekend. | ||
| It can't have some artificial deadline that's got to happen by Labor Day weekend. | ||
| It has to be right because we're going to live with this. | ||
| This is going to be a permanent part of President Trump's legacy. | ||
| I told you, June 15th is the 10th anniversary of coming down the escalator. |
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