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Episode 4423: Rejection Of Religion And Christianity In The Mainstream And Science
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 18 April, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
It is Good Friday.
It's also the eve of Lexington and Concord, the 250th anniversary of that.
And we're going to make sure that we commemorate appropriately starting this evening and also tomorrow morning on Tomorrow Morning Show with connecting it to you as the modern-day patriots.
I want to continue on this for David Brooks for a second because, folks, the intensity against Trump is about to increase at an increasing rate.
And here's why.
They believe that it's quite obvious now in the courts to delay is to deny that if they can chop block President Trump enough and slow him down enough in the federal courts and start to highlight and go crazy on issues like they're going on Maryland,
man, Right, which is a total lie.
That they can get to the midterms, win the House by one or two seats, install Hakeem Jeffries, start the impeachment process.
That's what's happening.
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I understand it's hard work watching this show and listening to this show and sharing the information and all of that.
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They think they have a battle plan now to stop Trump and stop what's happening.
And so everybody that was in the party mood over at the inaugural, it's great, it's fantastic, but as I said, those days are over and we're not, I don't think we're to the 80th day or something.
I think April 29th is the 100th day?
30th. April 30th is the, do my math, is the 100th.
Which were rapidly approaching.
And they hope to...
And some of them are panicking.
The David Brooks of the world.
I think Rachel Maddow is of the world.
To show you how serious she is, is she going to go past 100 days?
I don't think that.
I think she's already burned out.
I think she'll do back to the once a week.
Because she can't take the intensity.
She can't take the fight.
If we don't quit, we will win this.
And that's where we're getting to.
Because you're going to get back.
You had this little...
Interregnum de Brat.
Around the time President Trump won, where all of a sudden, okay, everybody's back together.
They understand the country's towards Trump and they can't be, the corporatists can't be deplatifying people, debanking people.
You know, all of that.
It was not a group hug, but it was at least a lay down in the arms.
That's stopping.
I can already tell you, that's stopping.
They're getting more vicious because they're afraid.
They're afraid that we have really...
Focused on the institutions here as we should, and we're trying to reverse the long march through the institutions that Roger Kimball, you know, has articulated so well of how the neo-Marxist left from the 1960s up until President Trump essentially marched,
and this was during Reagan.
Reagan did very little.
One, he had his hands full, you know, bringing down the evil empire and trying to sort out a financial crisis.
So he got both of those done, and he will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents for doing that.
But he was not able to reverse the institution.
They didn't really spend much time on it because it was very hard.
Trump is at a full force.
I mean, we're fighting at every level, and you can see the stories.
I'm going to get...
Poso is going to join us here in a moment by phone on Good Fridays out with the family, but there's a major story in CBS News this morning by the great Jennifer Jacobs.
Jennifer Jacobs, formerly of Bloomberg, now the White House correspondent, or one of the White House correspondents for the CBS News.
She breaks huge news.
What's the news?
Our own Derek Harvey.
Derek Harvey, you know, contributed here for years.
People loved him coming on here and explaining what's going on.
A guy that was in the first term with us, incredibly, incredibly, incredibly, I think one of the most brilliant guys I've met in Washington, D.C. is, guess what, and if we put the headline up there, he is now joining the National Security Council as one of the replacements for the six people turfed out with Laura Loomer's efforts.
And the headline is he's there to basically bring MAGA people in, to bring more people aligned with President Trump's America First national security policies.
Jack Posobiec joins us by phone.
Jack, I cannot overemphasize enough how important this is.
There's a range war going on, folks.
You should see from the State Department.
To NSC, to the Pentagon right now, a lot of it, not all of it, but some of it revolves around that New York Times story about Bebe coming to the White House to try to basically force Trump's hand on military involvement in the bombing of Persia in their nuclear,
nascent nuclear program, but it's deeper than that.
Lead story in Politico this morning, they took off the Zuckerberg piece we've been talking about and put up a piece about a MAGA type being turfed out over at the State Department.
Jack, give us the tour de horizon.
Give us the big picture here of what's happening, and then we can talk about the great Derek Harvey, who I know is a friend and colleague of yours also.
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, thanks so much for having me on.
And yes, that's right.
By the way, you know, it's Good Friday, and I wish everyone a blessed Good Friday.
I'm going to be taking the family out here to Stations of the Cross pretty soon.
But what people need to understand, what's going on right now will determine the...
Future trajectory of the Trump administration when it comes to geopolitical grand strategy.
And the war room audience understands that that's what this all is about.
Geostrategic, geoeconomic.
It's all intrinsically tied together from the tariffs.
To the peace deals, to all of the operations that you see going on around the world, President Trump has the grand strategic vision.
And while that's not always publicly shared for obvious reasons, if you look at the pieces that we do see publicly, this can all be put together.
But there are still elements of that previous mindset within Washington, D.C., the permanent class mindset, permanent Washington mindset of the neoconservative, neoliberal strategy
going forward, which, by the way, is...
The American people voted for peace and prosperity.
President Trump went up there in every single stage he could find, including one they tried to take him down on.
And he said peace and prosperity.
So what's happening now, throughout the administration writ large...
You are seeing this play out with policy fights turning into personnel battles.
And people who went through the 2017 process, who remember the 2017 experience, know that personnel is policy.
This is key.
The right people being in the right role to support the right agenda, which is President Trump's agenda.
Not their own agenda, not the agenda of the think tanks that they come from, not the agenda of law firms and other...
Past positions that they've had, but President Trump's agenda, the people's agenda, the American First agenda, that's the agenda that we need going forward, and none other.
So that is the fight that we see being played out.
It is policy reflected through personnel.
steve bannon
One of the things here we've seen is that part of that is an America First.
The grand strategy is America First.
It's not America isolationist.
It's not America come home.
It is America engaged.
But in a gauge that puts the national interests of the United States at the forefront and American citizens and not globalists and globalist institutions and particularly essentially deadbeat allies that have grifted off the American people for decade after decade after decade.
Why would Derek Harvey be so controversial?
Folks, that story this morning...
Upon Derek Harvey going over there, and you guys know how thoughtful Derek Harvey is.
He's not a huge, big personality, right?
He doesn't command the room when he walks in.
He comes in very differently.
He's a true man of deep thought, great intellect, but an iron will.
So this was done.
So that the New York Times and everybody else could try to turf him out before he shows up.
This is information warfare.
This story was leaked by people just like the lead story in Politico today was about an incident of the individual.
That took down USAID internally to State Department, and it kind of kicked around as a story.
People were batting back and forth, but hadn't raised it to that level.
Clearly, this looks like a press, I hate to say it, looks like a press release that came from the State Department.
To take this guy down who did a magnificent job in taking out USAID.
So the State Department went on offensive information warfare.
I hate to say what it is, but that's what it is.
And today the NSA, somebody in the White House leaked to CBS News to get ahead of Derek Harvey Cummings and to say, hey, it's all these MAGA crazies they're trying to get back in.
This is the administration, a little bit of being at war with itself.
You can't say it any other way.
And the stakes are so high.
The execution of Trump's grand vision, grand strategic vision of America First.
And it's quite sophisticated and a little bit complex about how you do it, Jack.
You need the right practitioners in there that support that vision and can execute on that vision.
You're seeing a full frontal from what happened to Pete Hegseth over at Defense to what's going on at the State Department to at NSC.
And I would love to be quiet about it, but we have kind of, you know, okay.
We'll, you know, if the White House, if you guys want assistance, we'll help you.
But then when they come out with two stories on the same day to take guys out, come on, man.
That's not going to fly.
It's not going to wash.
Somebody's got to get control.
It's not going to wash.
It's just not right.
These are good people, and you're trying to take them out, and they support 100% what President Trump stands for.
They're just executing.
They were executing the USAID.
And now Derek Harvey's a guy who can execute on President Trump's plan.
And they're trying to be taken.
The first guy in state, Pete, was taken out.
Morocco was taken out.
And now they're looking to restaff him, Jack.
But you know how this game is.
They're turfing out Pete Hexas guys over.
And look, I'm not 100% cool with all the Koch guys.
I'm not.
But that decision was made, and those people were there, and maybe the president didn't know about it because he didn't want Koch guys.
But hey, those guys were staffed over there by people.
Next thing you know, they're getting turfed out.
And it's interesting.
It all revolves around the timing of the piece about the Beebe meeting, which I think was shocking to people about how aggressive Beebe is about essentially forcing President Trump's hand, who ain't going to be forced.
He does not respond to that.
He's not going to be forced into a situation where we get caught into a situation that we have to support a military strike on the Persians.
That will not happen.
President Trump's not going to allow it to happen.
Jack Posobiec, your thoughts?
jack posobiec
Steve, let's go back to the tale of the tape.
Back in 2017, there were a number of people at the NSC.
Mike Flynn, General Mike Flynn.
Remember, when we talk about NSC, what was General Flynn?
He was the first national security advisor.
When he got in there, and the National Security Council, people need to understand, this really sets the tone going forward for the national security priorities of the entire government, your entire government.
They work hand-in-hand with the President of the United States, providing him with the analysis, providing him with the options, providing with everything that he needs to execute on his agenda.
So they take out Flynn, and then what did they do?
They took out the people who were under Flynn, and one of those who was pushed out by...
H.R. McMaster, the guy who lied to President Trump about troop levels in Syria, who said we need to protect the country from President Trump, the man who was working with Mattis and all the others and Kelly later on and holding these morning meetings to say how we're going to defend America from Trump.
That was the guy who bounced Derek Harvey the first time.
From the National Security Council.
And then, what did Harvey do?
He went over to Devin Nunes, where he worked with who?
Kash Patel to expose Russiagate.
This is Team Patriots, Team America versus Team Globalists.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second, because I'm going to tell that story in some detail when we get back about what Harvey and Sergeant Higgins, who has passed away in the interim, of what they did for President Trump in the first term.
And then, when run out by McMaster's, and the globalists inside the White House allowed that to happen the first time, and President Trump, I got it right here, a handwritten note about McMaster's, about a review that was done on McMaster's book, a handwritten note by the president, saying what he thinks of McMaster's,
and it ain't nice.
Not nice.
Short break.
Also another big development over NSC.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Also, the story also mentions Lieutenant Colonel Mike Jensen.
This is the Derek Harvey.
Derek Harvey's going over as, I think, Deputy Director for Intelligence at the NSC, Mike Jensen.
Who's a fantastic, has a fantastic reputation.
Mike Jensen going in.
Was nominated, I think we're talking about being nominated for the special ops job over the Pentagon.
He's now going to the NSC.
And I think, at least in the story of Jennifer Jacobs.
And, no offense, Jennifer Jacobs is amazing.
She was the Bloomberg White House correspondent.
She looks like she's just typing something and somebody's reading to her.
That's how inside baseball it is.
Mike Jensen is going for Western Hemisphere, and God, we need him, man.
What is going on with Bolsonaro?
Where's the OFAC?
There's so much action that should be taken to support Argentina, and particularly Brazil.
We're just slow off the dime.
Don't understand that.
Hopefully Jensen will fire him up.
So Derek Harvey and these guys, and Higgins put together a list of details.
Remember, I told you the National Security Council, Jack, as you know, has exploded to like 300 billets.
It's unbelievable.
Back, and I've got the new...
Brzezinski book here.
Jack, I've got to get you a copy of this by Ed Luce of the Financial Times.
It's quite brilliant.
Mika's dad.
It's an amazing book.
And particularly of Polish descent, Jack.
You'll love it.
There's a lot of that in there.
But he had a 22-man.
He and Kissinger ran the National Security Council with 20 people and ran the world.
Here you've got almost 300.
This is the reason they got rid of Flynn.
He was going to take it apart.
They put a list together.
And went into the Oval.
I was going to set the meeting up.
President Trump said, I want to get rid of these guys.
They're all detailers, Obama and Bush, globalists, all of them.
Anti-America first.
McMaster sat right there.
President ordered him to do it.
He didn't do any of it.
In fact, he brought worse people in and played those bureaucratic games.
The number one guy on the list was Camarilla.
The list was so good, they had targeted the guy that became the whistleblower later on the Ukraine call, the perfect call.
And you're right, Derek Harvey eventually left and went back with Nunez and Kash Patel.
Are you starting to get the connections here, folks?
That would be Kash Patel, who's the director of the FBI.
They went over, this is when they did the Star Chamber.
I went down there for, I don't know, 20 hours in the Star Chamber of the House Intelligence.
When Paul Ryan...
Ryan made Nunez recuse himself on the Russia situation.
Why? He'd been over the White House one day.
This is a complete...
The fix is in, folks.
That would be Paul Ryan who's on the board of directors of Murdoch's Fox News.
Fox News.
Why am I so against it?
Because I've been there.
I've been in the room and seen exactly what's going on.
Ryan made Nunez recuse himself.
Why? Because Nunes had too much power, knew what was going on, and he had his lead investigator and essentially chief of staff was Derek Harvey, and his chief counsel was a guy named Cash Patel.
And they could get to the bottom of it.
They turned it over, and guess who stepped in to run the committee?
Okay, let's think about it.
Wait for it.
Wait for Trey Gowdy, who was pathetic.
He turned it over to two individuals.
The minority guys ran the committee.
They're trying to turf Trump out.
Who was that?
Oh, Shifty Shift and Eric Swalwell.
When you're in D.C. in the swamp, the fix is in hard.
Paul Ryan is one of the worst people, and he sits around there, on Rand and all these young conservatives, and I'm going to work out and do my X-20, X-90, whatever it is.
I'm cool.
I'm young gun.
With Eric Cantor and, wait for it, McCarthy.
Eric Cantor, who our co-host today, Dave Bratt, turfed out with about 50 bucks and the only sitting majority leader in the history of this republic to be beaten in a primary by our own Dave Bratt, right?
And McCarthy, who this audience turfed out.
This is the fight.
People come in here and say, come on, man.
We've been at this for 10 or 12 years.
The Democrats are just starting theirs.
Poso, you know this.
This is hand-to-hand combat.
These people are globalists.
They're corrupt.
They're on the take.
They're awful.
And they're fighting President Trump.
Never in the history of this nation have you ever had us engage in a major conflict with an existential threat like the Chinese Communist Party and all the money they spend around the world with geopolitically and geoeconomically.
At the same time, you're having an internal war against each other.
Jack Posobiec.
jack posobiec
Look, Steve, people need to understand that with Colonel Jensen, with Colonel Harvey, we're starting to now see people who are coming in from, shall we say, a little bit outside of what Mike Benz calls the blob.
I want people to understand this, that when you hear the media say that someone is highly respected in Washington, D.C. circles, That is a glaring red flag to the America First audience.
That should be your first sign that there's a problem.
When the media is attacking some people who, by the way, haven't even been onboarded yet at the NSC, then you know that this is a threat to the system.
Because what that article does, Stephen, you're right, by the way, Jen Jacobs, she's great.
No problem with her whatsoever.
But what that article does through that leak, it sends up a flare.
It sends up a signal to the Eric Schmidt at the New York Times and all the other people they have stashed around the Wall Street Journal and the rest of them, the Murdoch Empire, to say, you need to start digging on these guys.
You need to get the drumbeat going.
I know it's a holiday weekend, but these guys don't believe in Easter anyway.
They don't care about Easter.
They don't care about our holidays and our traditions.
No. They want...
To go all the way in and target these individuals with the hit pieces.
That's what they want to do is jam up the work.
That's why this leak came out.
The leak came out on a holiday weekend because they want the other team members to get to work to try to block this stuff.
But fortunately, fortunately...
President Trump and the administration that he has around them, the fantastic chief of staff that they have there, they know the score this time around.
And you've really got some America First Patriots and the team that Susie and Stephen Miller and Taylor Budovich and everyone else that they put together around there at the White House and Sergio over at PPO, they get it.
They all get it.
They understand this game because we all remember 2017 to the fix that they're trying to put in.
I don't know if they're going to be able to get it all the way there because they know that when the media starts attacking them, that's a signal that they're actually doing something right and putting points on the board.
steve bannon
Jack, where do they go for your social media?
I know it's the holiest, the most solemn weekend of the year, and then Easter.
But unfortunately, I think it's going to be a work weekend, because you're 100% correct.
The reason these two hit pieces are out today is to keep Jensen, they're trying to keep Colonel Jensen and Colonel Harvey from onboarding in the National Security Council this weekend to support President Trump's America First.
Hey, guess what?
We are not going to let it happen.
These are good men that are dedicated to the America First policies, dedicated to saving this republic, and we're not going to let the globalists turf them out.
Where do they go to keep up with all your reporting, Jack Posobiec?
jack posobiec
Well, of course, we'll be up on X. I'm taking the kids over to Station of the Cross here pretty soon with the family.
By the way, it's Western Easter and Orthodox Easter for the very first time in a long time.
So, as folks know, my beautiful wife Tanya Tay is an Orthodox...
And so we're mending the schism.
And I really want to see that brotherhood of Christians unite across the board to all of our evangelical brothers and everything else out there.
That's what this is about.
This is a spiritual war.
And so we're going to be doing a whole extra.
Explanation and a special of that on Human Events Daily today.
By the way, on day two of the three-day fast, if Jonah could do three days in the whale, if Christ can descend into hell and spend three days down there fighting Satan at the gates of hell itself, then you can do a three-day fast.
So they say day two is the hardest, so I'm locking in, and I think we'll be able to make it, Steve.
steve bannon
Your power, Jack Posobiec, thank you so much for taking time away from...
Tonya Tain, the family.
Appreciate you.
jack posobiec
God bless.
steve bannon
Brad, you were part of this.
You took out Cantor.
Folks, you've got to understand, these are not vendettas.
This is not revenge or vendettas.
Although sometimes it can sound like it, right?
It's not.
But these fights have been going on for a long time.
And President Trump and the people around President Trump understand what the game is and understand how they're trying to thwart him every day.
And they think they're going to wait him out.
This is why I'm Trump 28. Hey, suck on this.
He's going to be back in on the afternoon of 20 January, 2029.
Hey, Ezra Klein, embrace that.
David Brooks, he ain't leaving.
Embrace this, David.
He ain't leaving.
unidentified
Dave Bratt, your thoughts?
dave brat
Yeah, well, I don't know if it's the timing, but I think the Harvard thing is what blew Brooks' day, right, and blew his mind.
And then I saw Larry Summers, a former head of the World Bank, Harvard, PhD at age 12, head of Harvard, president of Harvard, weigh into this debate, oh, this outrage shifting the institutions.
95% of Harvard faculty are leftist and liberal.
If they even have any liberals left, right?
And so Larry says, just let Harvard reform itself internally.
We don't need any of this external pressure.
I mean, it's just a colossal joke.
And then Natalie's reporting on the confluence between the China funding.
In Harvard's Kennedy School, one of the most revered institutions, and the significance here is Harvard and the Kennedy School and a few of the other elites, you know, Yale Law and these kind of things, they train in all of the establishment elitists.
So just by definition, you're getting 95% leftists from across the board into our institutions, and that's why they're crashing and burning.
And again, Larry, you know, it's the sins of omission in particular, too.
Where's the economic, and a guy like Larry can shift the entire profession, by the way, in a day.
Where's the analysis of the cost of one human life in war, much less a million?
Economics is supposed to weigh all the benefits and all the costs in any calculation.
They've totally omitted any moral sensibilities at all in their calculations.
What's the cost of 10 million illegal immigrants on the American people?
Zero. Void.
Nothing. These are just a couple.
I will give them a little credit.
On the inflation front, Larry did come out and make some commentary on the Fed's printing too much money.
But still not enough.
You know, the debt.
What's the cost of the debt on the current generation, the bond market, the kids, etc.?
steve bannon
All the good work he did as an economist to support us back in the early days of Biden, when he said stagflation is going to hit, he nailed it just like Peter Navarro and ourselves.
But it's not that.
You're right.
It's the institutions.
We're finally doing something that will be permanent.
And that is to, quite frankly, Reform these institutions, right?
They understand the power of what Trump's doing.
They get it.
That's why they're throwing down now and saying, actually, we've got to take to the streets to stop Trump from his consolidation of power.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Back in a moment.
Up at the...
The White House is put up.
steve bannon
Something they talk about behind the scenes a lot.
It's about the origins of COVID.
It's on the White House website.
Natalie Winter is going to join me this evening and we're going to break it down and discuss it.
I'm gobsmacked.
I knew that this was in the people we're talking about and working on it, etc.
But it's amazing.
And we'll make sure you have a link and you can go to it.
And tonight we're going to discuss it.
One of the reasons it's amazing is in this economic war, I don't know, when I look at this, I kind of say, where's reparations?
Where's reparations?
I think the timing of this is another masterstroke strategic timing of President Trump.
Because I think we got much more than what we're talking about, just the economic warfare.
Anyway, we'll break it down.
If we can send the link, if Grace and Mo can make sure it's in the chat room, Carly Bonet, Elizabeth, everybody, I want people to go and just see what this magnificent, what Trump is doing.
And this is going to go after all the institutions also.
Everybody was complicit in this.
He's opening up a whole other battlefront.
Because it's all tied together.
And you've got to get it all on the table.
This is one of the reasons we're saying, where's the investigation?
Where's the investigation of Fauci?
Where's the investigation of this?
Where's the investigation of Barrick down in North Carolina?
This is what's important.
Somehow I think, you know, when Tom Fitton's suing you, Tom Fitton's a great guy.
He ain't suing you because he wants to, he doesn't want to.
He's the greatest, on that side of things, the legal side, he's the greatest supporter of MAGA, the Trump movement, President Trump.
All of it.
But now he just dropped another bomb.
I love it.
It's like, what's the logical conclusion?
The logical conclusion, the Chinese Communist Party put this out starting in the summer of 2019 to thwart Trump at the military games.
They knew what they were doing.
I used to think it was an inadvertent leak, as it says here.
I'm not so sure anymore.
And I've always been a guy.
It came from the lab from day one on this show.
Back on the 20th pandemic.
We're in pandemic.
20th January, I think, in 2020.
We were months ahead of the mainstream media.
This is what, you know, the famous story.
I went back to Bill Maher.
His producers had contacted me because one of the young producers was watching, a female, was watching Pandemic every day.
It was like, they called me and moved some people around to do front of show, not a panel to do front of show.
It was about the pandemic.
I get out there, and Bill had gone through it and says, no, I don't know if this thing's that big.
I want to talk about the primaries.
And so we talked about the primaries.
He did promote the show at the beginning.
Because people didn't believe it.
Now, President Trump's got this huge effort coming out of the White House right now.
Looks to me, got reparations written all over it.
I think that makes the discussion with the Chinese more meaningful.
Exactly what we're doing here.
Not just about tariffs.
Also, Glenn Stewart, huge victory down in Texas.
Brad's going to explain it to you.
Glenn Stewart and the team, incredible.
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Dave Bratt, the most solemn day in the Christian calendar is today.
It is Good Friday.
What lessons can we derive from that, from the suffering of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and His trial and execution?
About today, sir.
dave brat
Yeah, well, Jesus is God in the Christian tradition, and Jesus is love.
On Good Friday in particular, he washed the feet of his disciples in an act of extreme, profound humility.
The very God of very God in man, washing the feet of his disciples, and says love is it, love's the bottom line.
And, you know, we've been talking about institutions and ideas and culture.
Just as a reminder to folks, right, who may think ethics is ethics, it's not true.
Greek ethics, the Greeks did not have love in their pantheon of virtues, right?
They had courage, wisdom, prudence.
And if you do all those together, you get justice, right, in Plato's Republic.
The Greeks transitioned into Rome.
Rome certainly did not have love.
It was the most brutal regime of elites, treatment of slaves, no love.
And who emerges at zero in the middle of the Roman Empire?
Jesus is born in a manger again.
And then up to the modern day, we're just talking about Harvard and the institutions, and this is their recoil, right?
Because this is a fundamental problem in theology and philosophy.
Either in the Enlightenment philosophies, right?
The great thinkers, Kant and Hegel and all, you know, Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau, all of them before.
Love was not central and love's not to be found.
steve bannon
But hang on, but hang on.
I want to make, hang on, philosopher, philosopher, I want to make sure that you...
Describe this because a lot of people, particularly young people, they think love.
They think romantic love.
They think eros, erotic.
What Christ was talking about was when he talked about love.
In fact, when I was growing up and we were doing Latin Mass, it was faith, hope, and charity.
It wasn't even called love.
That all got defined after Vatican II, the different nomenclature.
What do you mean by love, Dave Brett?
dave brat
Well, you just put your finger on it, right?
So the Aquinas in the Catholic tradition, about 1300.
He added what those three virtues you just did to Aristotle.
Aristotle had the Greek virtues, and then he tacked on faith, hope, and love.
And that's a systematic account.
These people, these old school philosophers, they thought they had identified truth and that they had disqualified other systems.
But what do you mean by love?
And the answer to that in the Christian tradition is found on the cross.
Today is the day.
And it's so painful to think of and look at.
But the idea that God had to come in the form of man because of our sinful human nature, and that, by the way, separates conservative thought from all the rest, right?
We know human nature is not good.
Christ came because the world fell and came to redeem us.
And so that is the ultimate sacrificial act of love.
It was foreshadowed in the Old Testament with Abraham and Isaac.
And so the Christian tradition frames that.
Today, unfortunately, we've turned it into this pithy feeling, sentimentality.
I love my Subaru.
There's giant love signs out at the mall in front of everywhere.
It doesn't look like we're doing a good job of loving the least of these, right?
Education you brought up.
We've been spending $20,000 a year per kid for 13 years, and the kids can't read.
So there are institutionalized ways of loving people also.
And when you let a million people get killed in wars, and you're behind part of that in 14 with coup d'etat, that is not a loving act either.
And when you let our major institutions, who were all founded by Christians, Harvard among them, right?
Truth for God in church, truth for Christ in church was Motto's motto in 1640, not so much anymore.
They don't define love, right?
And so it's very important to get back to these classical.
If you want a quick book, Brief History of Ethics by Alistair MacIntyre, used to be a Marxist turned Aristotelian, and he argues that modern moral theory is in the trash right now.
It's just weak statement after weak statement.
There's no systems of thought anymore.
But in the Christian tradition today, I just wanted to remind everyone, love comes about in a certain tradition.
And the last point I was going to make was on science.
Science is like the God these days.
There is no love and there's no ethics in science by definition.
They rule it out.
In their theory of knowledge, right?
This goes back to Karl Popper and Milton Friedman were experimenting with all this.
But there's no love at all in science.
And if you want to know why the world is off course, none of our public intellectuals like David Brooks is willing to come forward in public, much less the talking heads, right?
The folks who claim they're Baptist, you know, morning Mika and morning Joe.
Come out and explain these things, Joe.
You claim to be in that tradition, and yet no one will articulate just even these.
It's basic truths.
And so I just wanted to lay some of that out so people can pursue it, especially like you just said, so the kids can look it up.
Look up and study these things.
What is love in the Christian tradition and in the Judeo-Christian West?
It's absolutely central, especially this weekend.
steve bannon
From the Old Testament, from Proverbs, and remember Christ was here to fulfill the Old Testament.
In the Old Testament, Proverbs, wisdom has built her house.
And she has honed out her seven pillars, which starts, T.E. Lawrence's The Seven Pillars of Wisdom, which is about the Arab revolt.
Wisdom has built her house, and she has honed out seven pillars.
Now, the seven pillars of wisdom, correct me if I'm wrong, is like, it is prudence, which is practical wisdom, knowledge, number two, understanding, number three, counsel, number four, discernment, Fear of the Lord, number six.
And integrity, number seven.
In that, sir, I don't see love.
Right? This is why Thomas Aquinas called it a charity.
He added, but the seven pillars of wisdom according to Proverbs.
Remember, wisdom has built her house on the seven pillars of wisdom and honed it out of seven pillars.
Those seven pillars right there are pretty practical ways to live one's life, is it not?
dave brat
Yeah, and I'll just mention one of those pillars.
You mentioned the word knowledge.
steve bannon
I just want to make sure you're not getting soft on me here.
dave brat
You're in the war room, dude.
steve bannon
I want to make sure you're not getting soft on me.
You're getting love talk on Good Friday.
unidentified
Go ahead.
dave brat
That's right.
Jesus is love, right?
So that's the end of the nutshell.
John, read the opening chapter.
But for this audience, I also want them to note, when you hear the word knowledge, right, the modern university is supposed to be moving forward on the premise of knowledge.
Knowledge was actually annihilated back with the logical positivists at the beginning of the century.
Karl Popper, Wittgenstein, Carnap, all these smart folks, they tried to establish the idea that knowledge had to be sense perception.
And then there was one problem with that.
They said they're trying to get rid of God, right?
But then they ran into a fundamental problem.
Have you ever seen a science?
Huh. If you have, let me know what one looks like, right?
Yes. This is key.
steve bannon
Carl Popper, who was mentor to what individual, sir?
dave brat
Soros, the open society's enemies.
And boy, did he violate all that logic.
It's unbelievable what these guys are getting away with.
steve bannon
Dave Bratt ties it together.
Dave, we've got to bounce.
I know you do too.
I want to thank you for co-hosting this morning.
Where do people go to get all your wisdom, sir?
dave brat
Yeah, Brad Economics, and I'll put some of this up.
I'll put a few posts up.
But God bless you, Steve, for your Herculean work every day in service to this country.
God bless the posse out there.
I hope you all have a great Easter weekend.
Our Jewish friends are doing Passover, and together we can all work together to make this a better world in love.
And so let's study that word this weekend in particular.
steve bannon
It's orthodox, in the orthodox commemoration of, in celebration of Easter, is the same time as the Western Church, which is very unusual, as Pacific told us, so very important.
Bratt, don't ever change.
You're an economist and so much more.
Our resident philosopher, Dave Bratt.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to go out in the song, take down the Chinese Communist Party.
That is our practical work today.
That is an act of love and working with the Lao Bai Jing, right, to drive these demons from the face of the earth and assist the Chinese people in their freedom.
Not a bad task and purpose, is it not?
here on a good Friday.
Short break.
unidentified
Let's take down the CCB.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Okay, tonight it's 6 Patrick O'Donnell is going to join me.
We're going to kick off discussing the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord and Paul Revere and all of it.
We'll do that tonight and then tomorrow during the two hours.
And we're going to connect it to what's going on in the world today so you can see the linkages, right, and how we go forward in the best spirit of the...
Of the patriot revolutionary movement that started and founded this country.
Against many of the forces we're fighting against today on a global scale.
We'll make all that crystal clear as we walk through it, so you don't want to miss it.
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There is so much going on, which I think is a good thing.
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For more of what's going on, I can tell you already, next week's going to be explosive.
There's so much, you know, between the economic and financial, what he's doing with the big, beautiful bill on taxes and spending, what's happening geopolitically.
I mean, there's ten stories we didn't even get to today.
President Trump has finally said and had Rubio say, hey, if we're not going to make any progress in this peace thing with Zelensky and this crowd, we're just going to walk.
I think the message both to the Russians and to the Ukrainians.
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We'll see.
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We're also going to start talking about this reset that's going to happen, the Rio reset that's going to happen in July when the BRICS nations meet.
Something's cooking up there right now.
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China thinks they're a BRICS nation.
Why are we not stopping 100% the flow of...
Of oil from Iran, from the Persia and the Mullahs to the Chinese Communist Party.
That, to me, ought to be first order of business before you even consider any kind of military activity at all.
And once you break them on that, they're broken.
Mike Lindell, I got a question.
Have you been crying in federal court?
You're one of the toughest guys I know.
I'm reading these things.
Mike, he's slobbering, he's crying.
Is that the mainstream media?
Are they once again on your case, sir?
mike lindell
Yeah, that is it, everybody.
You know what?
I don't embarrass easily, Steve.
If I was crying in court, I would tell you all, okay?
What they did, I said, I got in there before the judge with one of these machine companies, and I said, they're trying to ruin me, sir, with lawfare.
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