April 18, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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The emergency is here. | |
| The crisis is now. | ||
| It's not six months away. | ||
| It's not another Supreme Court ruling from happening. | ||
| It is happening now. | ||
| Maybe not to you, not yet, but to others, to real people whose names we know, whose stories we know. | ||
| The President of the United States is disappearing people to an El Salvadoran prison for terrorists. | ||
| A prison known by its initials, CECOT. | ||
| A prison built for disappearance. | ||
| A prison where there is no education or remediation or recreation. | ||
| Because it is a prison that does not intend to release its inhabitants back out into the world. | ||
| It is a prison where the only way out In the words of El Salvador's justice minister, is in a coffin. | ||
| Sure, President. | ||
| First and foremost, he was illegally in our country. | ||
| He had been illegally in our country. | ||
| And in 2019, two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court, ruled that he was a member of MS-13 and he was illegally in our country. | ||
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Right now, it was a paperwork. | |
| It was additional paperwork that needed to be done. | ||
| That's up to El Salvador if they want to return him. | ||
| That's not up to us. | ||
| The Supreme Court ruled, President, that if, as El Salvador wants to return him, this is international matters, foreign affairs, if they wanted to return him, we would facilitate it, meaning provide a plane. | ||
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Administration officials made it very clear that El Salvador is responsible for Mr. Abrego Garcia, yet El Salvador's president said we're not going to do anything with him. | |
| So my question is, who is responsible for this man and where he's going to end up? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| First of all, President Bukele said that he is not going to smuggle a foreign terrorist back into the United States of America, as many in this room in the Democrat Party seemingly want him to do. | ||
| Abrego Garcia was a foreign terrorist. | ||
| He is an MS-13 gang member. | ||
| He was engaged in human trafficking. | ||
| He illegally came into our country. | ||
| And so deporting him back to El Salvador was always going to be the end result. | ||
| There is never going to be a world in which this is an individual who's going to live a peaceful life in Maryland because he is a foreign terrorist and a MS-13 gang member. | ||
| Not only have we confirmed that, President Bukele yesterday in the Oval Office confirmed that as well. | ||
| So he went back to his home country where he will face consequences for his gang affiliation and his engagement in human trafficking. | ||
| I'm not sure what is so difficult about this for everyone in the media to understand. | ||
| And it's appalling, truly appalling, that there has been so much time covering this alleged human trafficker and this gang member, MS-13 gang member. | ||
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It's truly striking to me. | |
| There's an illegal alien from El Salvador. | ||
| So with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador. | ||
| So it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point. | ||
| As two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13. | ||
| When President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization, That meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States. | ||
| So he had a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under our law, he's not even allowed to be present in the United States and had to be returned because of the foreign terrorist designation. | ||
| This issue was then, by a district court judge, Completely inverted and a district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here. | ||
| That issue was raised to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously stating clearly that neither Secretary of State, nor the President could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador, | ||
| who again is a member of MS-13, which as I'm sure you understand, rapes little girls, murders women, murders children, is engaged in the most barbaric activities in the world, and I can promise you if he was your neighbor, you would move right away. | ||
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And from their perspective, maybe they're right. | |
| Because here's a scary thing that I think sits, at least partially, beneath their calculus. | ||
| Politically, they cannot let Abrego Garcia out, nor any of the other people they sent to CICOT without due process. | ||
| Because what if he was released? | ||
| What if he returned to the United States? | ||
| What if he could tell his own story? | ||
| What if, as seems quite likely, he's been brutalized and tortured by Trump's Salvadoran henchmen? | ||
| Well, he can't be allowed to tell the American people that. | ||
| To the Trump administration, Abrego Garcia is not a mistake. | ||
| He's a liability, and he's a test. | ||
| A test of their power to do this to anyone. | ||
| A test of whether the loophole they believe they have found. | ||
| A loophole where if they could just get you on a plane, then they can hustle you beyond our laws and leave you in the grips of the kind of gulags they wish that they had here. | ||
| They're not ashamed of this. | ||
| They're not denying their desire to do it to more people. | ||
| Yeah, that includes them. | ||
| Why do you think there's a special category of person? | ||
| They're as bad as anybody that comes in. | ||
| We have bad ones too. | ||
| And I'm all for it. | ||
| Because we can do things with the president for less money and have great security. | ||
| We are not even 100 days into this administration. | ||
| And we are already faced with this level of horror. | ||
| And I can feel the desire to look away from it, even in me. | ||
| What all this demands is too inconvenient, too disruptive. | ||
| But Trump has said it all plainly and publicly. | ||
| He intends to send those he hates to foreign prisons beyond the reach of US law. | ||
| He does not care. | ||
| He will not even seek to discover if those he is sending into these foreign hells are guilty of what he claims. | ||
| Because this is not about their guilt. | ||
| It is about his power. | ||
| This is how dictatorships work. | ||
| Trump has always been clear about who he is and the kind of power he wants. | ||
| And now he's using that power. | ||
| And everyone around him is defending his right to wield that power. | ||
| The foreign policy of the United States is conducted by the President of the United States, not by a court. | ||
| And no court in the United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy of the United States. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| Mr. President, you wanted people to know that there was consequences if you break our laws and harm our people and endanger families. | ||
| And this is a clear consequence for the worst of the worst that we have somewhere to put them. | ||
| If President Donald Trump decides that you are to rot in a foreign prison, then that is his right. | ||
| And you, you have no rights. | ||
| And if he is capable of that, if he wants that, then what else is he capable of? | ||
| What else does he want? | ||
| And if the people who serve him are willing to give him that... | ||
| What else will they defend? | ||
| This is the emergency. | ||
| Like it or not, it's here. | ||
| Look, the American people voted for this. | ||
| American people voted for Donald Trump. | ||
| This is another one issue. | ||
| The vast majority of Americans want illegal aliens removed from this country. | ||
| And it's done humanely. | ||
| However, we've got to remember this. | ||
| There are millions of people standing in line, taking their tests, doing their background investigation, paying their fees to be part of the greatest nation on earth. | ||
| They're sitting in the back seat while 10.5 million illegal aliens came to this border. | ||
| Enter this country illegally, which is a violation of law. | ||
| There's a right way and right way to come to this country legally. | ||
| The people who came across me, they call them asylum seekers, but you and I both know, if you look at immigration court data, nine out of ten of those so-called asylum seekers will end up with an order of removal. | ||
| They overwhelm the system on purpose. | ||
| Why? Because they know it's going to take five, seven, nine years to have a hearing, which they will lose, but now they have U.S. citizen kids. | ||
| Now they own equities. | ||
| Now there may be a Democratic administration in power. | ||
| We're not making this up. | ||
| We're enforcing laws on the books, including the Alien Enemies Act, which is an act created by Congress. | ||
| We're simply using laws on the books to make this country safe again. | ||
| Deport all undocumented immigrants. | ||
| Voters favoring the government trying to deport. | ||
| All 11 million of them. | ||
| Back in 2016, just 38% of voters wanted the government to try to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants. | ||
| Compared to where we are in 2025, 56% the majority. | ||
| The American people have come a long way on this issue, much closer to Donald Trump. | ||
| And I think that's a big part of the reason why Americans are increasingly saying the country is on the right track when it comes to immigration policy and why Donald Trump's net approval rating on that issue is in the positive. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| It's Friday, 18 April, Year of Our Lord, 2025. | ||
| It is Good Friday. | ||
| It's also the eve of the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord. | ||
| We're going to be getting into all that today. | ||
| Right there, the crisis is here. | ||
| That's Ezra Klein, one of the most sophisticated, I guess, pollsters, observers, commenters, public intellectual, author of the new book, Abundance, that's kind of trying to drive the Democratic agenda. | ||
| I shouldn't say Democrat, the progressive left globalist agenda. | ||
| I want to bring in, so we've got a whole raft of serious people here at the start. | ||
| I want to start with Mike Davis. | ||
| Mike, you see the bid and the ask right there. | ||
| And this is why I say there's, you can't, this is an unbridgeable gap, right? | ||
| The MAGA people, the majority of the country, think one asset, have one thought about national security, our sovereignty, our territorial integrity. | ||
| Protecting our citizens. | ||
| And the left has a very different one. | ||
| Ezra Klein did. | ||
| So give me your assessment of this. | ||
| Because this is now what they're going to be driving. | ||
| That our crisis is here. | ||
| They've chosen. | ||
| And at the time, Ezra Klein saying, hey, he's being tortured. | ||
| He's being raped down there. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
| He's drinking margaritas with the senator from Maryland who didn't give a fare thee well to to to Marin's mother, who gave that dramatic eyewitness testimony about her daughter being tortured, raped and murdered by an illegal | ||
| alien invader. | ||
| Your thoughts on this? | ||
| The crisis is here. | ||
| Mike Davis. | ||
| I hope the Democrats keep doing these humanitarian trips to El Salvador. | ||
| I think the RNC should pay for them. | ||
| Put them on the airplanes, put them up in the hotels, pay for their margaritas when they go meet with these terrorists. | ||
| I don't think that image right there you're seeing on your screen shows you the Democrat Party is the party of the globalist elite, and they are totally out of touch with real Americans. | ||
| In real America. | ||
| President Trump campaigned on the fact he's going to secure our border. | ||
| He's going to get illegal immigrants the hell out of our country. | ||
| They are criminals. | ||
| Yes, criminals, particularly MS-13 international gangbangers and Trendy Aragua foreign terrorists. | ||
| President Trump is doing what he promised American voters he would do. | ||
| He has... | ||
| Soaring polling numbers on this issue, and Democrats are doubling down and going and having margaritas with MS-13 terrorists. | ||
| Please keep doing this. | ||
| Michael Watley, please tell your finance team to fund this. | ||
| Send all your donors private jets to send any Democrat politician in America to go have margaritas with Miguel, the foreign terrorist. | ||
| You want more photo ops, right, to compare and contrast what President Trump is doing compared to what they're doing, correct? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you, from my friends and family back in Iowa, these working-class, blue-collar Americans, this isn't going to sit well with them. | ||
| This is how President Trump secured the realignment this election, and it's only going to get more exacerbated for the Democrats if they keep doing this stuff. | ||
| Mike, real quickly, give me 30 seconds or I'm going to hold you through the break. | ||
| Rachel Burrow is going to join us. | ||
| Ezra Klein is talking about something deeper, though. | ||
| What the left is pushing is that we're coming for them, that this is just a test case. | ||
| Is that not correct? | ||
| That is the crisis they're really talking about, is it not? | ||
| Yeah, if you have Trendy Aragua tattoos on your forehead and you beat the hell out of your wife and you rape kids, yeah, we're coming for you. | ||
| But other than that, I think you're pretty safe. | ||
| Dag on it. | ||
| The Viceroy on a good Friday. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| They're hyping this up. | ||
| It's going to be nonstop this weekend. | ||
| David Brooks, who's one of the smartest public intellectuals out there, put a piece up that is almost incomprehensible about the panic, the fear. | ||
| And he's a Republican about President Trump's activity. | ||
| OK, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Make sure to get on the right track this weekend to take your phone out. | ||
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Text Bannon, B-A-N-N-O-N, 989898. | |
| We are packed this morning on a good Friday. | ||
| We will return after a short commercial break. | ||
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In America's horror room, here's your host, Stephen K. Vann. | |
| Remember, Birchgold, 989898. | ||
| It's simple. | ||
| Just text that Bannon and you get the guide and then you get into it with Philip Patrick and the team. | ||
| Philip's actually going to join me tomorrow on what we're going to do for two hours. | ||
| We're going to do Lexington Concord and why it's important for today. | ||
| How's that? | ||
| Patrick K. O'Donnell, I think, is also going to be with us. | ||
| Rachel Bovard joins us. | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| Remember, Rachel, one of the things we do here is to make sure we instruct the audience and help the audience understand the fundamental tenets of information warfare. | ||
| Because so much in modern politics and really modern war is about information warfare and controlling narratives. | ||
| There was an interesting piece that was kind of leading on Politico, I think last night and early this morning. | ||
| And if we can put it up, if Denver can get that up, about Zuckerberg had a great week. | ||
| And this essentially says that for all the big talk of Rachel Bovard and Mike Davis and Steve Bannon and all these guys that are the fanboys of Ferguson at FTC and Gail Slater and Omid over at the Justice Department and they love Lena Kahn and what's happened here. | ||
| And this is the first of the oligarchs. | ||
| And they were the ones pushing Trump. | ||
| Got to have this trial. | ||
| Got to have Zuckerberg in the docket, right? | ||
| And he's had an amazing week. | ||
| He's actually smarter than the lawyers. | ||
| He's smarter than the FTC. | ||
| He's smarter than Rachel Bovard, Mike Davis, Steve Bannon combined. | ||
| And he's had a brilliant week. | ||
| Walk me through that. | ||
| How close is that to reality, ma'am? | ||
| And why do you think this piece is being driven on Good Friday so it can be the weekend read for the globalist elites over Easter weekend? | ||
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Well, I can tell you why they're pushing the piece, just from a simple monetary perspective, is that Mark Zuckerberg is their benefactor. | |
| If you read the enormously popular Politico playbook, you will see sponsored by, and in many cases, it says Facebook or Meta or Boeing or any of the defense contractors around D.C. Meta gives money to these companies that then cover them. | ||
| It's an incredibly incestuous relationship, but it exists all across D.C. Meta is not exclusive to this, but tech companies have been throwing money around town. | ||
| To influence the coverage of them and also to think tanks who then launder their business propositions as policy proposals, which then go to policymakers on the hill. | ||
| So there is this cycle of information warfare, to use your term, that's going on. | ||
| But I think the second reason is that You know, he's one of them. | ||
| He is an elite in D.C. And how dare these institutions of government come for them? | ||
| They are only supposed to go after, you know, political opposition for Democrats. | ||
| That's their job. | ||
| They go after, you know, businesses that nobody cares about. | ||
| How dare you come after these masters of the universe, which Zuckerberg has positioned himself as one? | ||
| And, you know, I think, though, for anyone who's paid attention to the. | ||
| Last three days of this trial still ongoing today. | ||
| It doesn't reflect reality because you've seen Mark Zuckerberg come across as very robotic, in many cases overly lawyerly. | ||
| He's trying to outsmart these lawyers and he's not doing a very good job. | ||
| Impeaching his own credibility because they'll present him with his own words and then he'll say, oh, I mean, maybe I said that. | ||
| And it's actually, I've been told, prompted laughter in the courtroom because it's so absurd. | ||
| He's presented with his own words being that, oh, I want to neutralize a competitor when speaking of Instagram. | ||
| And he'll say, yeah, maybe I said that or I don't recall. | ||
| And so he's not actually being the fierce witness that Politico wants to portray him as. | ||
| But again, they're on the hook for doing so because they're being paid. | ||
| Just for the audience, the first part of the trial, is it unusual to call a guy like him as the first witness? | ||
| Was this a radical strategy of the government, of the FTC, to actually call? | ||
| Isn't it traditional you build up and then he's the grand finale? | ||
| Or do you normally bring somebody like that in this early? | ||
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It is a little bit unusual, and it's not just with Mark Zuckerberg. | |
| It's also been Sheryl Sandberg, who's on the stand today. | ||
| And that is unusual. | ||
| They're bringing their lead witnesses out first. | ||
| They're trying to overwhelm the court a little bit here with star power. | ||
| And I think they're trying to get their best arguments out there for the government to put them out and then rebuke them. | ||
| So it is a little bit of a strategy, I think, on Facebook's part. | ||
| And remember, too, the lead lawyer for Facebook actually used to be the boss of the judge, of Judge Jeb Bosberg. | ||
| So this is all an intentional strategy to grease the skids, peddle the influence game in Washington. | ||
| Facebook was in the White House three times meeting with Trump. | ||
| Again, as we talked about, they donated his inauguration fund. | ||
| All of this is because, for years, Facebook has been able to buy its way out of enforcement. | ||
| And you're seeing them use every trick in the book to try to do that again. | ||
| If the overall strategy of the FTC and the Justice Department and everybody that's, you know, the neo-Brandeisians that want to start to take apart these oligarchs, and it's to disaggregate, start by disaggregating meta. | ||
| And show that you can do that. | ||
| Because you've got the penalty phases of Google on two different types, right? | ||
| I think on search and then the advertising engine. | ||
| One in Northern Virginia Federal Court and the other in D.C., of which Omid and the team over the justice have just been on fire on this. | ||
| Walk through the first couple of days in your professional judgment. | ||
| Has Zuckerberg, I know he's contradicting himself, but... | ||
| Is the government actually making its case, you think, that can drive through the rest of this trial and convince folks that we actually ought to get to the part that these are monopolies and they've got to be taken apart, ma'am? | ||
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They're getting there. | |
| You know, I think as we've discussed, they're benefited by the fact that they have Zuckerberg's own words. | ||
| Zuckerberg's words in email saying, I want to neutralize a competitor. | ||
| I want to build a competitive moat around us. | ||
| All of these things indicating that he didn't buy Instagram in order to, you know, help it innovate and help it thrive. | ||
| He bought it because it was a competitor and he wanted to neutralize it. | ||
| And you can't do that. | ||
| Antitrust laws, again, protect the marketplace. | ||
| They protect the marketplace from predators, like Meta, seeking to hoover up Any competitive threat and suck it into themselves to create these giant market borgs. | ||
| And that's what Facebook and Meta have become. | ||
| And so I think the government is really trying to demonstrate that. | ||
| Now, I think we're going to get, you know, when we get out of the star power phase of this trial, we're going to focus very much on these wonky definitions around what is a market, who does Facebook actually compete with. | ||
| And that's where I think FTC is really going to have to show its mettle. | ||
| Because if... | ||
| Meta is allowed to claim. | ||
| It competes against a host of these competitors. | ||
| Its market share is actually very small. | ||
| The government will have a harder case to make. | ||
| But if they can successfully say, you know, in the market of social networking, there's really only two or three competitors and Facebook is the big one, then it's a lot easier for the government to show that Facebook has been maintaining its monopoly through illegal means. | ||
| And that's where we're going to get to. | ||
| But I do think they've done a good job of disassembling Mark Zuckerberg and now Sheryl Sandberg. | ||
| And again, these are, you know, they can afford the best attorneys, and so you're seeing them try to fight back, but, you know, the government's been doing a good job. | ||
| Last thing, in Politico, in the entire article today, correct me if I'm wrong, as I read it, I didn't see any disclaimer there where they said... | ||
| That Meta and Facebook are a major advertiser with them and actually sponsor or co-sponsor certain of their biggest things, which is Playbook is what they're known for. | ||
| And by the way, the biggest traffic driver over there. | ||
| I just want to make sure. | ||
| I didn't see it, and I looked at it a couple times. | ||
| Did you see where they actually let people know that they're writing this piece and that, not saying it's slandered or not, but just informing people that Facebook and Meta is a major contributor and sponsor of theirs? | ||
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No, they never do. | |
| You know, they'll still show it on the actual playbook email. | ||
| And if you ask them about it, they'll argue, well, they only sponsor that particular vertical of our business. | ||
| They don't sponsor the coverage. | ||
| They would never influence our coverage. | ||
| But as everybody knows, money is fungible, right? | ||
| They have money coming in from Facebook. | ||
| They don't want to lose that account. | ||
| You have to think that that dictates a little bit of coverage. | ||
| That is just common sense. | ||
| So there's got to be a little bit more rules of the road on this stuff because | ||
| People don't know, right? | ||
| People are consuming information. | ||
| They don't understand the biases behind it. | ||
| And that's just factually and facially unfair. | ||
| Last thing before I let you go, the bid in the ask here, the government was asking, I think, for $30 billion originally and would settle for $20 billion or some number in that range. | ||
| Zuckerberg and his team offered $400 million. | ||
| That's a pretty big spread. | ||
| As you see the first week, where do you think we're going to come down to this thing? | ||
| Closer to the 20 or 30? | ||
| Bayon are closer to the 400 million. | ||
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I don't think the government's going to move off its big ask here. | |
| I mean, why would they? | ||
| This is, again, this is why this case is so existential to Facebook. | ||
| At the end of the day, it could result in Facebook being structurally dismantled, meaning Instagram and WhatsApp divested of Facebook, returned to their status as independent companies. | ||
| The government is making that case. | ||
| I don't know why they would walk away from it. | ||
| Facebook hasn't given them a reason to on the stand yet. | ||
| They are still arguing and prosecuting this case very effectively. | ||
| So, look, we're going for the big ask, and I think it would be a mistake to back off it. | ||
| I think this also shows, and people should be very proud of this, of President Trump, with all the stuff that he's owned by the oligarchs, and they're down in Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| This is real world, and it's pretty brutal. | ||
| First of all, Zuckerberg ain't happy about being in the dock, and Sheryl Sandberg's going to be less happy, and the government's dug in here. | ||
| Remember, structurally dismember what Rachel Bovard said, structurally dismember Facebook from all the power they've got, and particularly the power they've used against the MAGA movement and President Trump. | ||
| Rachel, where do people, thank you for coming on on Good Friday Morning, where do people get you and all your content? | ||
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You can find me on X, at Rachel Bovard, and I'll be writing about this case for The Federalist and for Commonplace. | |
| We love the Federalists. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
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Thanks, Steve. | |
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break and we're going to return. | ||
| We've got the Viceroy. | ||
| I want to get back to the Ezra Klein of it all. | ||
| Dave Bratz with me. | ||
| One of the most important public intellectuals out there, particularly on the conservative side, is David Brooks. | ||
| He's the House conservative over at NPR and PBS. | ||
| He's in full and total meltdown. | ||
| He's calling for people to take to the streets. | ||
| Maybe now. | ||
| You think there's going to be some turbulence? | ||
| Ezra Klein's telling us the crisis is here. | ||
| Matter on that entire crew. | ||
| Every night, as Natalie Winters points out, the color revolution. | ||
| They are worked up like I've never seen them before. | ||
| I think it means we're winning. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
| Talk to Philip Patrick and the team about the 401ks. | ||
| All the different methodologies they have of tax-deferred ways that you can roll your retirement and other things into a program of ownership of physical gold. | ||
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| Philip's with us tomorrow morning on Saturday on the 250th commemoration of Lexington. | ||
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The emergency is here. | |
| The crisis is now. | ||
| It's not six months away. | ||
| It's not another Supreme Court ruling from happening. | ||
| It is happening now. | ||
| Maybe not to you, not yet. | ||
| But to others, to real people whose names we know, whose stories we know. | ||
| The President of the United States is disappearing people to an El Salvadoran prison for terrorists. | ||
| A prison known by its initials, CECOT. | ||
| A prison built for disappearance. | ||
| A prison where there is no education or remediation or recreation. | ||
| Ezra. Ezra. | ||
| Ezra Klein, calm down. | ||
| He's drinking margaritas. | ||
| Can we put that photo? | ||
| He's drinking margaritas. | ||
| Think about yesterday. | ||
| You have Miss Morin, right? | ||
| The mother of what Rachel Morin, and she comes, and it's too almost violent to do during the morning show because of the children and the homeschoolers that are there. | ||
| Her daughter's a mother of five on her morning jog. | ||
| Telling her kids she's going to finish her job or finish her walk. | ||
| She's going to come back and they're going to go to the store. | ||
| It's a typical morning, right? | ||
| She is grabbed, dragged, tortured, raped, murdered brutally. | ||
| Her mother says that the senator's never even given the fare thee well. | ||
| He gets on a plane and goes down and is having margaritas. | ||
| And Michael Patrick Leahy, remember I gave him later this morning or this evening, he's got an amazing report coming out of Tennessee where the FBI kind of let him go when he was trafficking humans in a car with seven undesirables. | ||
| But it's deeper than that, Mike Davis. | ||
| If you watch MSNBC and the Information Warfare, they're accusing us of now getting ready for the autocratic breakthrough. | ||
| And Trump, I'm going to put up David Brooks in a moment. | ||
| David Brooks is actually saying they have to go into the streets in a mass mobilization, maybe direct action to stop Trump's full spectrum dominance of every institution in the country. | ||
| That's what the crisis is. | ||
| The crisis is not this single guy going back. | ||
| They don't care about him. | ||
| They're using him as a tool to warn as a—it's like their equivalent of Paul Revere. | ||
| This is where they're saying a—where Paul Revere wrote tonight or in the early morning hours of tomorrow to warn the British are coming. | ||
| They're saying the crisis is here. | ||
| That's what they're doing on the eve of Lexington and Concord. | ||
| And that crisis is the autocratic breakthrough that they think President Trump and the Viceroy— Yeah, we see very clearly who the Democrat Party represents. | ||
| They are desperate to keep these dangerous, illegal aliens in America, including MS-13, gangbangers, Trendy Aragua. | ||
| They are desperate to keep them here. | ||
| They have to have... | ||
| These illegal immigrants in America because they need these votes. | ||
| And they know this. | ||
| This is why they oppose the SAVE Act. | ||
| They want these illegal immigrants in their coalition. | ||
| And they want their globalist overlords. | ||
| They want this cheap labor. | ||
| And they don't care. | ||
| They do not care about the human carnage that results from having MS-13 and Trendy Aragua in America. | ||
| This Chris Van Hollen, the senator from Maryland, he is a disgrace. | ||
| He is despicable. | ||
| He flew down. | ||
| To El Salvador to meet with this MS-13 gangbanger by two immigration courts. | ||
| They found this guy's part of MS-13. | ||
| This guy viciously beat his wife. | ||
| He was involved with human trafficking. | ||
| And Chris Van Hollen's down there sipping margaritas with this guy, but he won't meet. | ||
| With Rachel's mother, who's in Maryland, I mean, it's unbelievable. | ||
| Chris Van Hollen is a disgrace. | ||
| It's disgusting to look at that photo. | ||
| And this is just part of the Democrats' broader problem. | ||
| Look at their constituency. | ||
| Their constituency are the global elitist and these illegal immigrants, the peasants who serve the global elitist. | ||
| And one of their concerns, folks, These are smart people. | ||
| Don't think these people are not smart. | ||
| They're smart, right? | ||
| They're smart, demonic, evil, say whatever you want, right? | ||
| They have a very different philosophy and outlook of what this country should be than we do. | ||
| Okay? And it's not going to be argued out. | ||
| It's not going to be debated out. | ||
| There's an unbridgeable chasm between us. | ||
| The other thing they understand is that Trump and his Justice Department, the FTC, the FCC, other things, he is looking to take one of the biggest globalists because they understand that Zuckerberg's on their side and that these big social media platforms are actually on their side. | ||
| They're just licking their chops to Hakeem Jeffries gets back in here. | ||
| They're never going to totally flip publicly. | ||
| But when Rachel Bovard says, Trump, who... | ||
| Zuckerberg was all over. | ||
| He was in the Oval Office three times the last couple of weeks. | ||
| That's more times than the National Security Advisor has been in the Oval talking to him. | ||
| Structurally dismember Facebook. | ||
| One of the biggest and most powerful of all the oligarchies. | ||
| Mike Davis. | ||
| Yeah, so Rachel Bovard and I started... | ||
| The conservative fight against big tech in 2019. | ||
| It was the Internet Accountability Project, the sister organization to the Article 3 Project. | ||
| And Rachel Bovard and I were laughed at, mocked repeatedly when we said we needed to use our antitrust laws to break up these trillion-dollar big tech monopolists. | ||
| Google, Amazon. | ||
| Facebook and Apple. | ||
| And we had the left on our side. | ||
| We had the Lena Khans on our side, but we didn't have the right because the right was so beholden to the Chamber of Commerce wing. | ||
| And we changed that. | ||
| We changed the politics on the right. | ||
| And how we did that is we showed that these big tech platforms use their market power not only to crush competition and to shutter small businesses, but to also cancel conservatives. | ||
| And others with whom they disagree. | ||
| And we change the politics quickly. | ||
| And that's why President Trump filed in 2020 this FTC lawsuit against Facebook, against Meta, for its monopolization of the personal social networking market, meaning your friends and family online, your Facebook friends and family. | ||
| And this lawsuit was brought in 2020. | ||
| It was essentially to divest. | ||
| the acquisition of Instagram and WhatsApp that Facebook acquired Instagram in 2012 for a billion dollars. | ||
| And then WhatsApp in 2014 for a for I think it was like 19 billion dollars. | ||
| And the email evidence that you're seeing at trial this week, this methodical trial that Andrew Ferguson is leading, started by Lena Khan, continued by Andrew Ferguson, this methodical trial that you're seeing is they're showing methodically that | ||
| Mark Zuckerberg intentionally acquired Instagram in order to crush competition in the personal social networking market. | ||
| He wants to dominate that market, and he's done that very effectively. | ||
| The reason that Facebook can censor conservatives, can deplatform President Trump, can spend $400 million to chase him out of office in 2020 and subject him to four years of unrelenting lawfare is because Facebook | ||
| is a monopoly. | ||
| If Facebook | ||
| Competed against Instagram instead of acquired Instagram, they would not be abusing their consumers with censorship. | ||
| They would welcome conservatives. | ||
| They would be competing for conservatives. | ||
| They don't have to do that because Facebook acquired Instagram. | ||
| Same thing with Google and YouTube. | ||
| If Google competed against YouTube instead of acquired YouTube, they would not be censoring conservatives. | ||
| You're seeing major... | ||
| Wins by the Trump administration. | ||
| Started during the Trump administration to the great credit of President Biden. | ||
| He continued these bipartisan antitrust efforts with Lena Kahn at the FTC and Jonathan Kanter at the antitrust division. | ||
| Now you have Gail Slater leading the antitrust division. | ||
| With Amita Safi, you have Andrew Ferguson as the chairman of the FTC, and we're getting major victories against big tech. | ||
| You have the meta trial this week. | ||
| Mark Zuckerberg thought he was going to spend a million dollars after he spent $400 million chasing Trump out of office in 2020. | ||
| Mark Zuckerberg thought he was going to spend a million dollars after Trump won in 2024 on the inauguration and buy his way out of the Facebook trial. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Two Tuesdays ago. | ||
| You see reporting of Gail Slater, Andrew Ferguson, and the Viceroy going into the Oval Office and making damn sure that didn't happen. | ||
| And so you have Mark Zuckerberg sitting through trial this week and explaining, defending his monopoly. | ||
| He's definitely not winning when he's explaining his monopoly. | ||
| You also have Google last year lost its antitrust trial on search. | ||
| It's search monopoly. | ||
| You just saw this week Google lost. | ||
| It's an online advertising monopoly trial. | ||
| These are two trials that were brought by Gail Slater's antitrust division. | ||
| You've seen Apple being held accountable by the Justice Department. | ||
| Amazon, we are on the march. | ||
| Five years ago, Rachel Bovard and I were laughed at about this. | ||
| Now we are kicking big tech's behinds. | ||
| The oligarch tour with Bernie Sanders in AOC is totally phony. | ||
| One, they don't talk about any populist nationalist economics at all. | ||
| Okay, they're talking about Green New Deal and all this other crap from the land of the time for God. | ||
| They never mention this. | ||
| Actually, the Trump movement, the MAGA movement, is full-on on an assault in the courts to go after these oligarchs and to break them up. | ||
| Am I incorrect in that? | ||
| On a broad front with some of the best people in our movement, Mike Davis. | ||
| Yeah, so think about this. | ||
| Marxists want total control. | ||
| They want total government control. | ||
| They want total private control. | ||
| And the best way you can control the populace is through monopolists, right? | ||
| With a monopolist, there's only one neck for the government to choke. | ||
| Right. And so if you tell Apple to censor someone to de-platform from their app store, Duopoly, they're going to do it. | ||
| If you tell Facebook to de-platform, they're going to do it. | ||
| Same thing with Google. | ||
| We have the evidence. | ||
| That's what the Biden regime was doing. | ||
| They were telling these monopolists to do their censorship bidding, and it was very effective. | ||
| If you don't have monopolists, if you have many companies that are competing, it's much harder for the government to control them. | ||
| So, of course, governments like these monopolists. | ||
| These Marxists like these monopolists. | ||
| And that's why it is so important that this populist movement continues, that the populist right, the MAGA movement with Steve Bannon... | ||
| With Rachel Bovard, with Gail Slater, with Andrew Ferguson, we team up with our allies on the populist left, not the Marxist left, the populist left, like Lena Kahn, and we continue to break up this concentrated power. | ||
| We do not want concentrated power in government. | ||
| We do not want concentrated corporate power. | ||
| You talk about unifying the country. | ||
| President Trump and his guys brought it in the closing days of his first term. | ||
| Lena Kahn picked it up against all pressure. | ||
| The Democratic Party picked it up, refined it over the FTC, essentially passed it to Ferguson. | ||
| And Ferguson is driving home in a court today in Washington, D.C. It's actually, they talk about the country being so divided. | ||
| Well, there are people out there that understand that these oligarchs are much too powerful and they have to be structurally dismembered, as Rachel Bovard said. | ||
| Vice Roy, real quickly, Ed Martin's confirmation, Ed Martin doing a great job as U.S. Attorney. | ||
| How can we help? | ||
| We go to Article 3. How can we help push this one over the goal line? | ||
| Yeah, so Ed Martin is fulfilling President Trump's electoral promise to make D.C. safe again. | ||
| Ed Martin is focusing like a laser beam on D.C. street crimes, making America's... | ||
| Capital, safe for Americans to visit again. | ||
| So it's not Mogadishu, like it's been under the Biden regime. | ||
| So go to Article 3 Project, article3project.org, take action, and contact both of your home state senators, and then tell them to support the confirmation of Ed Martin for the D.C. U.S. Attorney. | ||
| Let's make D.C. safe again, and Ed Martin will do that. | ||
| Mike, 30 seconds. | ||
| Where do we go for Article 3 right now on your social media, sir? | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| You can follow us on social media. | ||
| You can take action like supporting Ed Martin. | ||
| If you can afford it, donate. | ||
| But thank you very much to the War Room Posse, the most effective, most powerful force in politics. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Good Friday and happy Easter weekend, sir. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Mike Davis, short break. | ||
| Brad next. | ||
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| Let's take down the CCB. | ||
| Here's your host. | ||
| Dave Brat. | ||
| Let's get David Brooks up. | ||
| Dave Brat's with us. | ||
| Let's get the... | ||
| If we can put that up on the screen. | ||
| So, David Brooks, who is a pretty button-down guy. | ||
| I mean, he's a conservative that's on liberal media. | ||
| Essentially to bash Trump. | ||
| See, he's the new George Will, right? | ||
| Up on liberal media to act as a conservative, to essentially bash populist nationalists. | ||
| But he's a pretty even-handed guy. | ||
| He did a, I'll pull it next, in the next hour, he did this big interview with me the day before, a couple days before I went to prison. | ||
| Which he said, it was like having, right here in this big dark picture, black and white, in the New York Times, he said, the first sentence says, I felt like I just interviewed Trotsky. | ||
| That's how much he digs MAGA. | ||
| Is he having a nervous breakdown? | ||
| He's calling for him to go into the streets, right? | ||
| He's going Ezra Klein next level. | ||
| Is he not, sir? | ||
| Yeah, well, Ezra Klein, I don't follow him too much, but that cold open was just precious. | ||
| It looked like an overly dramatized poetry reading up at, you know, Politics and Prose up there in the swamp on Connecticut Avenue for all the hoity-toity class. | ||
| And I don't think that's a winner. | ||
| And Brooks, Brooks lost his marbles in this piece. | ||
| And he's not a conservative, right? | ||
| A conservative, a Burkean conservative melds together the Judeo-Christian religious tradition with Greek reason. | ||
| And both reinforce each other. | ||
| Brooks, if he ever mentioned the Judeo-Christian religion and what it entails, there's no way The Atlantic would let him publish. | ||
| So in this piece, he goes off on the rule of law, the Constitution, and Trump's accumulation of power for power's sake. | ||
| And interestingly, you know, he wrote another piece in The Atlantic this week on gaslighting. | ||
| And that was a pretty good piece. | ||
| Gaslighting is when you are the guilty party and you blame the innocent party for doing what you just got done doing to them. | ||
| And everybody in the war room is in touch with that emotion, right? | ||
| Gaslighting is when you blame the innocent party for doing what you've done to them. | ||
| What did they do to us? | ||
| And Brooks is part of this sole globalist establishment line of thought. | ||
| They brought us a whole host of the terribles. | ||
| The CIA, FBI, Justice Department gave us the Steele dossier with 50 leading intelligence officers in the country breaking the law and violating their own word. | ||
| They brought us 10 million cases of illegal immigrants. | ||
| 10 million cases against the law, Dave. | ||
| If you believe in the rule of law and the Constitution... | ||
| Just basic conservative thought and basic moral integrity would demand you answer to that. | ||
| A million dead boys laying on the ground, David, in Russia and Ukraine. | ||
| No commentary. | ||
| They invaded President Trump home. | ||
| They put Steve Bannon and Navarro in jail. | ||
| We had the COVID shutdown with our rights trampled. | ||
| Not much on the basic rights language. | ||
| We had censorship in place for four years. | ||
| You couldn't speak the truth. | ||
| David Brooks, nowhere to be found. | ||
| And so, yeah, he's having a total meltdown here because all of his institutions are crumbling in the place. | ||
| And this gets a little deeper, but we used to have a real culture, right, before the elites took over with, you know, Michel Foucault and Rorty and the language games of Harvard and the new literary remarks that are all part of deconstructing the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| And Brooks fits right in that. | ||
| He fits right in the deconstruction school. | ||
| Nothing he says violates those terms of thought. | ||
| And so what am I getting at there? | ||
| We used to have a culture that was high culture. | ||
| We produced the Judeo-Christian West, produced the greatest music, the greatest literature, the greatest art, the greatest philosophy, the greatest theology, the greatest democracies, the greatest human rights language, everything. | ||
| That is a culture. | ||
| We didn't have to call it a culture. | ||
| We didn't do study of culture. | ||
| It was the culture. | ||
| And in my mind, it still is the culture. | ||
| The left can't name their culture. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| Isn't he arguing that that's what he's defending? | ||
| That we are, in fact, the barbarians? | ||
| That the barbarians are coming across every part of the institution? | ||
| This is why you know you're winning. | ||
| Because he admits that we are now finally reversing the long march through the institutions, and we're grabbing, like, conservatives like Brooks, the controlled opposition, just stood there and let the long march take place. | ||
| We're actually countering that across every different part of this battlefield, right? | ||
| So he's arguing that he's actually the defender, that the long march wasn't that bad, that you left at least a facade. | ||
| Of these institutions, right? | ||
| The support of the Judeo-Christian West, which you can look at Harvard or all these universities and understand that's not happening. | ||
| And he's actually calling now, like Ezra Klein, he's telling them that we're at a critical point, that if we're not stopped, if MAGA's not stopped and stopped now... | ||
| That we're going to win this, as I keep saying. | ||
| And he's actually calling them out into the streets. | ||
| Get out of the faculty lounge. | ||
| Get to the streets. | ||
| Get out of the C-suite. | ||
| Get to the suites. | ||
| Get to the streets. | ||
| He's doing a call to action, is he not, to stop us? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Well, the old conservative party used to put out white papers and identify cultural arguments, and they thought that would win the day. | ||
| The Trump administration has the ideas, and they're putting them in place in the institutions. | ||
| And the other irony that a basic conservative like Brooks follows, and this is why he's not a public intellectual anymore, President Trump is dismantling the power of the federal government. | ||
| How many tyrants do you know that have done that? | ||
| He's dismantling his own communications departments, right? | ||
| USAID, NPR, public radio. | ||
| If you were a despot, you would grab hold of these public communications networks. | ||
| He's also dismantling the federal piece, the bureaucratic sclerosis piece of the Ministry of Education. | ||
| Again, if you were a tyrant, you would utilize, like the left has for the past 40 years, the Ministry of Education to inculcate young kids with everything except knowledge. | ||
| And all this relates to our immigration problems, right? | ||
| The kids aren't educated. | ||
| We don't have a workforce. | ||
| And now you've got the leftist claiming, well, we don't have a workforce. | ||
| And it all fits together. | ||
| Texas had a huge win on education yesterday. | ||
| And it's all of this brawl for the institutions is going to bear good fruit. | ||
| Hold that. | ||
| I want to get into that when we get back. | ||
| This gets back to what Mike Davis said about why AOC and Bernie Sanders never bring up what Trump's Justice Department and FTC are doing with a handoff from Lena Kahn. | ||
| Because we have to break up these oligarchs. | ||
| Their oligarch tour never talks about this. | ||
| Why? They're not populists. | ||
| They're not left populists. | ||
| They are actual Marxists, right? | ||
| They are cultural Marxists, definitely, but they're also Marxists that they want bigger institutions, state capitalism, that they can control it. | ||
| As the FBI, as Biden had the FBI controlling the content of these places. | ||
| It's as clear as the news on your face, right? | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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