April 15, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
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It's going to happen. | |
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| you you | ||
| All right. | ||
| As you can see, not Stevie K. Bannon here. | ||
| Steve is on assignment, but he will be back in the war room very soon. | ||
| For now, you've got Jack Posobiec, of course, the host of Human Events Daily. | ||
| But you might notice that I've got a slightly different background than I did earlier today on the two o'clock show on Human Events Daily. | ||
| I'll be on the Timcast IRL program tonight. | ||
| And Tim has been more than gracious to allow us the use of his studio. | ||
| For the war room, which, by the way, if you guys recall, is the second time that he has done this because when we had the second Trump rally at Butler, Pennsylvania, back in October, I believe it was October 5th, 2024, up in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Steve, of course, that's when he was on his extended vacation visiting Danbury, Connecticut, courtesy of Merrick Garland and Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| It was Tim Pool who came up and saved the war room by allowing us to power the war room off of his cyber truck because, well, Secret Service didn't want us running a gas-powered generator. | ||
| And I said, well, I need a giant battery that can operate without gasoline and be enough to power the entire war room from Butler-Pennett. | ||
| And then, of course, Tim Pool comes up with his Cybertruck and absolutely saved the day. | ||
| And so, folks, when we're looking at everything that's going on out there, we have to talk about the Trump administration, everything that's come forward. | ||
| Bukele being at the White House today, I think this is an absolute shift. | ||
| This shows that last week, what did we have? | ||
| We had the economic fight, the economic leg of the stool when it came to tariffs, the economic leg of the stool when it came to China, the People's Republic of China, the Chinese Communist Party, sticking it to them with regards to these. | ||
| Tariffs. Now what are we seeing? | ||
| The focus is back on the deportations. | ||
| And I was just on with Eric talking about this. | ||
| Eric Bolling, I'll talk about it here again. | ||
| The media is running with this Maryland man hoax. | ||
| Oh, the Maryland man hoax. | ||
| The Maryland man. | ||
| Yes, the Maryland man who got accidentally sent to the El Salvadoran jail. | ||
| It sounds like a Hallmark special, except not on the real Hallmark, unlike some nonsense lifetime version of it, because none of it is true. | ||
| It's an absolute hoax. | ||
| This isn't a Maryland man. | ||
| This is an illegal alien from El Salvador. | ||
| And yet the Democrats are salivating over this thing. | ||
| It's like you would have thought they deported Jesus Christ during Holy Week right now over this guy. | ||
| El Salvador won't return. | ||
| Wrongly deported Maryland man. | ||
| He's not a Maryland man. | ||
| He's not a citizen. | ||
| He doesn't have a right to be here. | ||
| And by the way, if the government of the United States went to El Salvador and snatched one of their citizens and expropriated him, expatriated them to the United States, that would be kidnapping without a legal order. | ||
| We can't do that. | ||
| We have no right to go and do that. | ||
| And so President Trump, of course, spoke directly to the president of El Salvador and he said, I'm not letting him out of jail. | ||
| Because we don't let criminals out of jail in El Salvador anymore, unlike your cities, unlike New York City, unlike Frisco, Texas, where Carmelo Anthony was already let out of jail. | ||
| He's on house arrest right now. | ||
| I think Tim and I will probably be talking about that a little bit later tonight. | ||
| And all of these other cases where you have Soros DAs across these major cities. | ||
| But understand, this is Trump and the administration putting the full onus back on the deportations. | ||
| This has always been the key rail of MAGA, the key railhead of the entire country. | ||
| I've always said it has been dual-hatted. | ||
| The two hats of the MAGA movement are this. | ||
| Trade and immigration. | ||
| What makes us different? | ||
| What makes MAGA different from the GOP, old establishment, the previous establishment? | ||
| Well, why are we not Jeb Bush? | ||
| Why are we not the party Mitch McConnell anymore? | ||
| Because we're going to actually get things right on trade, which means fixing the economy for the average person, the working person, the working class people of this country, Ohio, Sandusky, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, all the rest of it. | ||
| And then, of course, on immigration. | ||
| We are going to fix the problems of immigration. | ||
| We're going to get the illegals out of here and stop importing to cheap foreign labor. | ||
| Foreign policy and war policy, by the way, are intrinsically tied to this. | ||
| By winding down these types of operations, we can wind down the influence of the Uniparty. | ||
| I'm told, do we have our first guest? | ||
| Do we have him? | ||
| Do we have him there? | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| Ben, do we have you? | ||
| Great to see you, Jack. | ||
| Hey, guys. | ||
| Hey, Ben. | ||
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| Mike Benz, Mike Benz, Cyber. | ||
| You guys know him from X. You guys know him from Twitter, Foundation for Freedom Online. | ||
| Now, Benz, I had to get you on because there's been this story that's been just absolutely rocketing up the internet, the timeline. | ||
| Laura Loomer's been tweeting about this very emphatically. | ||
| We've also seen a lot come out from the media regarding this. | ||
| Trump's head of USAID is no longer there. | ||
| Pete Morocco, what are you hearing? | ||
| What's the latest that's going on? | ||
| Well, I have to say, when I met with the transition in that period in between election and inauguration, I had a chance to meet with Pete Morocco. | ||
| And I have to say that of all the people that I met with, Personally, about the USAID and State Department issues, Pete Morocco was the most informed, the most aggressive, showed the most backbone, | ||
| the most willing to fight, fight, fight about it. | ||
| And he went in, he did his job with flying colors, and I have nothing but positive things to say about the man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not privy to what was behind this, whether he resigned or was terminated for some reason. | ||
| It would be hard for me to imagine that it was on strictly policy grounds unless there's a shift happening at a more tectonic plate level about walking back what's been happening at USAID. | ||
| And at the various State Department levels around the NGO sphere. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I'm hearing a lot of rumors, but I don't know. | ||
| You may know more on this than I do in terms of what's behind it. | ||
| Well, at the end of the day, what I keep hearing from sources in the Senate and on the Hill is that, obviously, as we saw, and maybe you could walk us through this. | ||
| The 50,000 foot view is that, unfortunately, there are people still in Washington, D.C. that want to continue what USAID was. | ||
| And a lot of people need to understand that USAID, yes, we've described it as a slush fund, but it wasn't just for Democrats. | ||
| There were Republicans that were involved in this. | ||
| There were people like Lindsey Graham and so many others. | ||
| John Cornyn comes to mind, by the way, a guy who's going to be up for potential primary. | ||
| Up from Ken Paxton, the great Ken Paxton, A.G. of Texas. | ||
| Ben, walk us through the problems that it creates if the slush fund of Washington, D.C. is removed. | ||
| 100%. That's exactly right. | ||
| I'm so glad you bring this point up because it's one that I talk about all the time, that we're fighting the ghost of Ronald Reagan here as much as we are the... | ||
| The specter of George Soros. | ||
| If you folks remember, John Bolton held up on Piers Morgan the USAID hand grenade. | ||
| Literally, John Bolton was in charge of policy and budget for USAID under Ronald Reagan, and his parting gift from USAID was a hand grenade with his name engraved in it. | ||
| And I can think of really no more symbolic representation of USAID than a John Bolton hand grenade. | ||
| Bipartisan blob really since the day it was born. | ||
| It's a way of actually creating buy-in for war efforts or for CIA activity on both sides of the aisle in the same way that places like the National Endowment for Democracy have both a Democrat wing, the NDI, the National Democrat Institute, which Hunter Biden was on the Chairman's Advisory Board of, | ||
| and the IRI, the International Republican Institute, which was started by John McCain. | ||
| And Mitt Romney was on the board of and et cetera. | ||
| And so there is this bipartisan slush fund that obviously threatens the interests of the donors to members of Congress, that threatens the constituents in the areas that they represent. | ||
| So, for example, if you are in a big city with big corporations that are headquartered there or have offices there. | ||
| They are pulling for their local representatives on the basis of how much grant money is going to go or how many contracts or grant money is going to go to benefit them or in operations that benefit them. | ||
| Then it's a massive existential threat to you as a congressperson to have USAID shut down. | ||
| And so this has been my principal fear since Trump initially made these announcements that there would be the congressional snake-in-ing. | ||
| That would happen. | ||
| And I would say, fortunately, I don't know if that's from threats of being primaried from Elon Musk. | ||
| That has been a sort of constant specter over Republicans in Congress who are on the verge of snaking. | ||
| We saw close calls in the case of Senate confirmation hearings around Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy and others. | ||
| But it looks like the coalition in Congress has largely held strong. | ||
| To date and that the major blocking point has been from the judiciary level. | ||
| But I don't know if there's if if, you know, it would be great if we could get a public statement either from the State Department USAID or from Pete Morocco himself in terms of whether this came from a policy disagreement or a personality disagreement or it was a voluntary resignation. | ||
| And if Pete felt that, you know, his job was. | ||
| To get this done and that it was done. | ||
| You know, let's, right, I think that's a great point. | ||
| And I also want to say, you know, take the personalities out of it. | ||
| You know, of course, there's a lot of alphas in the Trump administration, a lot of people like Pete Morocco who are, you know, who are going to go in there guns blazing. | ||
| But let's also remember, this is exactly what this administration was set up to do. | ||
| So just, you know, take the names out of it. | ||
| We were set up and put on this mission and put on this path. | ||
| You've got Doge and you've got one of the chief architects of so much of the problems that we've seen. | ||
| And so much of the waste has always been USAID. | ||
| And so this is why, by the way, of all the things that they came in and shut down, the Trump administration came and shut down because, by the way, of USAID. | ||
| People like you identifying this as really being one of the hornet's nests that was out there to say, target this thing and we'll see the response. | ||
| Boom. There was an immediate response. | ||
| You saw the system respond to USAID in ways that they didn't respond to anything else out there, by the way. | ||
| Any of the other offices, nothing saw the response that USAID did. | ||
| And why? | ||
| Well, just... | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You've just been right. | ||
| It's just right on the facts that this actually has not been about foreign aid, that that's never what this was only about. | ||
| It was about laundering money for special projects overseas, and that's why you're seeing the response. | ||
| And so the reason that I bring it up and the reason that I think that all of MAGA should really focus on this is an understanding this is part and parcel of the very top. | ||
| This is a top level item that President Trump talked about on the campaign trail. | ||
| This is what people voted on. | ||
| The American people support this and more importantly, the president supports this. | ||
| Well, what everyone has been concerned about since the day the closure of USAID was announced was, will it stick? | ||
| Is this something – how much should we celebrate right now? | ||
| Because it's obviously a huge moment. | ||
| But will it stick? | ||
| Will it be walked back? | ||
| Will it be reformed? | ||
| Will it be stopped in some way? | ||
| And the fact is, is this was very much Pete's project within state, within USAID, to carry this forward. | ||
| And so there's a very natural moment of reflection right now upon hearing this news is – Is this a way of unsticking what we've been told is happening? | ||
| Is it just the removal or resignation of Pete? | ||
| Or are we going to hear announcements coming down the pipe in the next week or two that actually this thing is staying online and this thing is being restructured? | ||
| And that's a natural part of the process. | ||
| The point was never to kill any sort of U.S. government funding for Projects that kill – or that support U.S. interests abroad if they are genuine and true and accountable. | ||
| I think a lot of the reason that USAID was shut down and moved into state as is the organizational plan is because USAID is, as I've said so many times, it's where dirty work. | ||
| It's where the body work is done. | ||
| It's where the bodies are buried. | ||
| We've got a quick break coming up. | ||
| We're on with Mike Benz. | ||
| You are in the war room, even though it may look as though I'm in Tim Pool's studio right now. | ||
| We'll be right back with more. | ||
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| All right, I want to bring Mike Benz in here now because something that I'm seeing is as Trump is fighting the deep state, shutting down USAID, shutting down these horrible programs that have existed for a long time and clearly been used as a bait-and-switch type operation. | ||
| This is what they do. | ||
| This is what they do. | ||
| This is what they always do. | ||
| That we are also seeing elements of what USAID and other organizations have done overseas in terms of the color revolutions and these types of playbook. | ||
| And so I started the show talking about the Maryland man hoax. | ||
| And the Maryland man hoax is key. | ||
| It hasn't completely metastasized yet, but you're starting to see the elements get into place where Democrat senators, high-level senators like Chris Van Hollen are now getting involved saying, I demand President Bukele, allow me an audience with the Maryland man. | ||
| And the media is out there beating down the drums on the Maryland man, except this individual isn't a Maryland man. | ||
| He's not a U.S. citizen. | ||
| He doesn't even have someone who has a right. | ||
| Ben, do you think that the Maryland man hoax and perhaps other things that we've seen are elements of the color revolution playbook starting to get turned on here under Trump the way it was in the first administration? | ||
| Yes, what's important with the Color Revolution playbook is it's not just for toppling a government and running the president, the democratically elected president, out of office, as we did in Ukraine in 2014, as we did in the Arab Spring, and as we did in... | ||
| Dozens of countries around the world using this playbook. | ||
| It's also for stopping the passage of laws in various countries. | ||
| These same rent-a-riots and mass street protests were rolled out in Georgia and in Serbia and in Slovakia and in Hungary to try to stop the passage of a FARA-type law just this past year in those countries. | ||
| To be sort of a foreign agent registration act where countries – where NGOs or institutions in those countries that were supported by USAID would have to register with the government as a foreign agent as we require here in the US. | ||
| Well, all these USAID-funded NGOs had their specimens take to the streets to do these mass street protests just like we're seeing against the US government here and during Trump's first term. | ||
| In order to try to stop the shutdown of USAID. | ||
| So just like USAID, AstroTurf's protest movements to stop the passage of laws that impact USAID programming in foreign countries, we see literally the same thing happening here. | ||
| And on the front of the Maryland man in the MS-13 and related sort of gang violence and narco network thing, the thing that I find most troubling is that I believe Very passionately that USAID plays a significant role in the drug trade and that many of these narco networks everywhere from Afghanistan to Pakistan to Mexico to Colombia to Peru and Ecuador and even in Brazil are very much tied to a influence operation | ||
| that has been going on for 70 years to work with narco networks around the world in order to move elections in order to shift Bukele was one of the first people on X to announce him being overjoyed at his country, | ||
| no longer receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in USAID funding. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Because it was all funding the opposition and it was funding these AstroTurf protest movements. | ||
| Why did USAID have a problem with the shutdown of drug and cartel networks in El Salvador? | ||
| Why did George Soros and his Open Society Foundation make such a campaign out of the human rights issues in El Salvador and trying to destabilize the Bukele administration in El Salvador when the Open Society Foundation is the kissing cousin of the U.S. Embassy and of the USAID in these regions? | ||
| Why were they so on the ball about protecting the drug networks when you have USAID funding the irrigation of poppy crops in Afghanistan, when you have the U.S. Institute of Peace funding the Taliban and telling them point blank to keep the drugs flowing? | ||
| You see the same thing in the 1950s to the 1970s with the CIA funding the narco networks as a bulwark against the Marxist left initially. | ||
| In the – during the Cold War and now they're being repurposed against the populist right during the post – during the Trump era. | ||
| And so what I suspect is happening – you see the same thing with Soros prosecutors who are decriminalizing drugs and are getting prosecutors to pledge not to indict people on drug crimes and getting the judges. | ||
| To not hand out prison sentences to the entire drug network. | ||
| So from my perspective, USAID is at every point in the chain of this, from actually funding the irrigation of the drug crops, to funding and capacity building the drug networks that wholesale the drugs, to keeping the criminals who retail the drugs on our streets. | ||
| I think this is part of a larger campaign to try to continue supporting the drug networks despite the Trump administration's aggressive attempt to label them terrorists and shut them down. | ||
| I mean, you lay it all out like that, and then you look at a headline, and people can understand. | ||
| People can understand, I think, very clearly why it would be that MAGA and the American people see a headline like they saw in the New York Post and the Wall Street Journal and it's out everywhere when the man that President Trump personally directed to shut down USAID, | ||
| to shut down these networks, to stop these types of operations from going on, is abruptly... | ||
| No longer in his position. | ||
| With Pete Morocco not being there, all of a sudden, you've got someone, and you just mentioned that you had sat down with him, and so he understands what's going on clearly, what's going on, and how this has been used as a slush fund for potentially all sorts of operations going on around the world. | ||
| Now we ask, wait, hold on. | ||
| We thought we were shutting all of this down. | ||
| We thought that we were going to return America to an American government that was actually serving the people. | ||
| And oh, by the way, even beyond that, from a fiscal perspective, shutting down the massive amounts of capital flow that is going through these doors. | ||
| And so suddenly people have a right to ask. | ||
| And I think people should, by the way, start making some phone calls about this and saying, are we shutting down USAID or not? | ||
| And you should contact your congressmen, contact your senators right now. | ||
| And ask them, do you support the continuation of USAID? | ||
| Do you support this to continue to be going? | ||
| And call everyone. | ||
| Call everyone right now. | ||
| You might be after a call of business, but call them up first thing in the morning tomorrow. | ||
| Or if you're, you know, depending on time zone, you might have time. | ||
| Give them a call and make your voices heard. | ||
| They will listen and they do listen because it's very simple. | ||
| The American people, look, we love... | ||
| Look, we get it. | ||
| We love what the administration has done, what the administration stands for, but we also want to see the action. | ||
| We want to see the results. | ||
| We want to see everything that was said actually come to fruition because I don't want to hear Mike Benz coming on War Room and saying that all this stuff is going on. | ||
| I want to hear Mike Benz coming on this show and saying, you know what, Jack? | ||
| We cleaned it up. | ||
| Well, from your mouth to God's ears. | ||
| No, no, we try. | ||
| We've got a couple of minutes still until the break, Ben. | ||
| When it really comes down to it, how important is it? | ||
| I mean, it sounds like this is one of the most important things. | ||
| Is the shutdown of USAID in your mind what you've identified as potentially the number one thing that the Trump administration can do to really take a shot at these networks? | ||
| Well, it is if it's done correctly because it's the, you know, in the same way that there are gateway drugs and, you know, One of the reasons that you don't have one bad friend in your network is because it opens you up to all the other bad friends that they have as well. | ||
| USAID is a portal into the CIA. | ||
| USAID is a portal into the malfeasance of the Pentagon. | ||
| USAID is a portal into the NGOs and into the State Department. | ||
| And so while it's a $44 billion slush fund, Donald Trump is now campaigning for a trillion-dollar Pentagon budget. | ||
| Well, if you understand the interstitial relationship, the connective tissue between the Pentagon and USAID, USAID really gives a roadmap for rogue activities by the Pentagon. | ||
| If you remember, the Pentagon bragged, Pentagon officials, top brass bragged after Trump lost in 2020. | ||
| Shortly after that, a whole raft of them came forward and bragged that they were constantly playing shell games with the numbers. | ||
| And a lot of that is because this money moves through USAID. | ||
| There was a whole coordinating branch for USAID and the Pentagon set up under the Hillary Clinton tenure at the State Department. | ||
| And they held phone calls, by the way, every morning to discuss this at the highest level. | ||
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| I want to also bring on now here on The War Room. | ||
| The raw egg nationalist himself, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, who joins us via satellite link-up. | ||
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| Charles, how are you? | ||
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It's great to be with you, Jack, as always. | |
| So, you and I have been talking about the rise of political violence, particularly from the left. | ||
| I wrote a whole book about it last year called Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them, which is a war room book, by the way, co-authored by Joshua Lysica, forwarded by Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| And yet I look and it seems like every single day there's one or even more examples of leftist violence, one of which recently walk us through this a little bit, that actually even targeted a Democrat. | ||
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Yeah, well, over the weekend, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, he had a Passover dinner at his house at the governor's mansion and then went to bed and a radical leftist, | |
| a guy called Cody Balmer, who was arrested on Sunday morning. | ||
| Scaled over the fence and evaded state troopers and planted an incendiary device in the house. | ||
| And it went off and caused a huge amount of damage, really absolutely gutted the governor's mansion. | ||
| The governor and his family were evacuated and a few hours later this chap Cody Barmer was arrested. | ||
| But what's interesting of course is yet again this is a lone wolf. | ||
| This is an individual, a single radical leftist who has decided to take matters into his own hands and cause a lot of damage, potentially kill someone, potentially kill multiple people. | ||
| This is the Mangione model in action and I've written... | ||
| I've spoken about this at some length because I think it's very important. | ||
| It's clear that the left is totally, totally exhausted as a mass movement. | ||
| There is no leftist mass movement at the moment. | ||
| So what have you got? | ||
| Well, what you've got is you've got basically what Luigi Mangione did. | ||
| You've got individuals. | ||
| Targeting important members of the regime for attacks, for assassinations. | ||
| And this is likely to continue for a long time, I think. | ||
| I think this is going to be the way that the left... | ||
| The radical left in particular does politics for the foreseeable future simply because the organised apparatus of the Democrat Party has basically broken down. | ||
| They're squabbling over the results of the 2024 election. | ||
| They're squabbling over who is responsible. | ||
| Is it Kamala Harris? | ||
| Is it Barack Obama? | ||
| What does James Carville think? | ||
| The left is in disarray. | ||
| In order to achieve any kind of satisfaction, and that's what these radical leftists want to do, they need some sense that they're actually doing something, that they're actually achieving something, then all that's left to them actually is to do these lone wolf attacks. | ||
| And there have been a lot of them already. | ||
| I mean, people have forgotten. | ||
| Probably about the attack on Scott Besant, for example, which I think is actually extremely important. | ||
| Somebody tried to assassinate Scott Besant within weeks or even days, actually, I think, of his confirmation. | ||
| This is the Treasury Secretary, a transgender man. | ||
| I think his name was Ryan Michael English. | ||
| Turned up at the capital with Molotov cocktails, with weapons, bombs, wanted to burn down the Heritage Foundation because the Heritage Foundation is responsible for Project 2025, which has kind of become a leftist sort of... | ||
| It's like the boogeyman, really, for the leftists, isn't it? | ||
| Project 2025, this nefarious plan, you know, that Trump has to turn America into the Fourth Reich. | ||
| And he also wanted to assassinate Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary. | ||
| And when he was apprehended, he had a manifesto-type thing in his pocket, and he said to police, I was inspired by Luigi Mangione. | ||
| So we really need to be paying attention to... | ||
| Luigi Mangione and his influence, because I think it's going to run through virtually everything that the radical left does in the coming weeks, months and even years. | ||
| Well, you know, I even had a friend who was just sort of driving through town around Washington, D.C. area a couple of days ago and photographed a truck with a bumper sticker, Free Luigi. | ||
| Right? Free Luigi right there on the back of the bumper sticker. | ||
| And this is a real movement. | ||
| And then, of course, CNN was platforming this, the deranged Taylor Lorenz, who, by the way, I believe is old enough to be Luigi Maggioni's mother. | ||
| Maybe she can confirm that for us. | ||
| And she was going on CNN last night, supposedly on the misinformation show with Donia Sullivan. | ||
| And yet she was explaining. | ||
| We need to embrace the support of Luigi and Maggioni and understand it better as a society. | ||
| Rather than, of course, point out that it is a homicidal pathology and stamp it out and arrest and incarcerate. | ||
| Basically take the Bukele solution to all of these people and say, you can stay there if you consider it. | ||
| Maybe one day, potentially, we'll talk about you coming out. | ||
| But it's not about, by the way, it's not about... | ||
| The amount of people we put in, it's about the amount of people we protect. | ||
| And I love the way that Bukele put it that way. | ||
| This is what allows for societies to function. | ||
| This is what allows for families to flourish. | ||
| We shouldn't have to worry about the Luigis out there. | ||
| I don't want Governor Shapiro's family to have to worry about these Cody Balmers down the street with their Molotov cocktails. | ||
| Or as an example, one you and I were talking about in the break a little bit was this individual Nikita Kassap. | ||
| Or by the way, Scott Besant or Nakia Kasap, a teenager from Wisconsin who apparently murdered his own mother and father in some furtherance of a plot to kill Trump. | ||
| I mean, this is the type of pathology we saw that led to not one but two assassination attempts on President Trump during the campaign. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's a pathology that's really spreading. | ||
| But the Nikita Kassap story is interesting because it appears to be, or at least it's being portrayed as, a plot against Donald Trump from the right. | ||
| So this young chap, I think he was only 17, or is only 17, murdered his mother and stepfather. | ||
| He stole some of their stuff, stole valuable stuff and tried to sell it in order to buy equipment to attempt to assassinate Trump. | ||
| So he was apparently in contact with an extreme right-wing sort of neo-Nazi type group. | ||
| I forget the name of it. | ||
| And he wanted to buy explosives and he wanted to buy a drone and he was planning on somehow attacking Donald Trump at a rally or at some kind of public event. | ||
| He's only just been arrested. | ||
| Well, he was arrested at the beginning of March, actually, and he's yet to be put on trial. | ||
| And they're obviously going to throw the book at him. | ||
| But it looks like... | ||
| It looks like an interesting complication, actually, of this general model of kind of lone wolf craziness because, like I say, it appears he is actually coming from the right rather than the left. | ||
| It may very well be the case that actually the kind of Luigi Mangione model of political extremism actually unites people on the left and even extreme people on the right. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Alternatively, it could be the case that actually maybe there's more to this Nikita Kassab story than meets the eye and that perhaps maybe he was being manipulated by other people. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Interestingly enough, I've seen some analysis on the highly respected substack, which states that part of the reason could even be generational in that with millennials, you saw more of an interest in mass movements. | ||
| So the BLM. | ||
| Rallies, which were, by the way, largely white, as well as the Antifa movement, which, of course, as we know, was completely, almost entirely white as well. | ||
| And yet when it comes to Gen Z, Gen Z doesn't have that proclivity as much to want to join these mass movements. | ||
| In fact, at the recent, um, uh, these, uh, these, uh, marches, which were held against Trump a couple of weeks ago, there was a zoomer who went and was lamenting the fact on Tik Tok. | ||
| They said, why is this March so old? | ||
| Why are there so many old people here? | ||
| Um, you know, where, where's all the other Gen Zers and, and, and, and, | ||
| And what, of course, would be the most heinous act to go viral as an individual as well would be committing an act of political extremism. | ||
| And so perhaps there's even an angle of being too addicted to the algorithm or too addicted to the cult of self that plays a role for people who have truly grown up. | ||
| As digital natives. | ||
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Yeah, I certainly, yeah, I think there's definitely something to that. | |
| I certainly don't think that that should be underestimated as a factor. | ||
| There is obviously a clear generational divide in politics, more broadly, not just in terms of these extremists, but I think also just between Zoomers and millennials, Gen Xers, etc. | ||
| And that came out very clearly in the election. | ||
| You know, that was a boon for Donald Trump, actually, because he was able to connect using social media with with Barron's help. | ||
| He was able to connect with the younger generation in a way that actually Kamala Harris wasn't. | ||
| But clearly it cuts both ways. | ||
| And it also, yes, potentially presages a new a new era of a kind of social media driven, perhaps an algorithm driven extremism and politicism. | ||
| So, yes, it's definitely not something to be underestimated. | ||
| No, I found that to be very compelling. | ||
| And it actually, it strikes you because a lot of these, as you notice, and people like Nikita Katsap, people like Maggioni himself, people like, no, not Ryan Wesley Routh would break that, but Thomas Matthew Crooks was, of course, these are all either Zoomers or young millennials, | ||
| people who certainly grew up with a lot more social media than previous generations. | ||
| And so just one minute till the break. | ||
| But Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, where can people go and follow you? | ||
| Tell people about where they can get access to your writings. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| So follow me on Twitter. | ||
| I am at BabyGravy9 on Twitter. | ||
| I have a substack, that's raweggstack.com, raweggnationalist.com as well, which is just kind of like a hub for all of my stuff. | ||
| And then I have a man's magazine called Mansworld, which is mansworldmag.online. | ||
| We've got a new physical issue of the magazine coming out very, very soon. | ||
| And I've also got a new book coming out, actually, via Passage Press. | ||
| That's called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. | ||
| And that's a follow on from my role in the Tucker Carlson documentary, The End of Men in 2022, which was about testosterone decline and the political implications of testosterone decline. | ||
| I can't wait for that book. | ||
| By the way, I certainly hope you'll be writing and I'm sure you'll be discussing quite a bit about the New York Times' piece on ADHD and the lies and scams of basically two decades of a social contagion that have now finally come screeching to a halt, | ||
| I hope. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's a watershed, I think, actually. | ||
| It's a turning point, really. | ||
| No, it is. | ||
| Absolutely. All right, Dr. Charles Cornishdale. | ||
| Folks, we'll be right back here on The War Room. | ||
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We rejoice when there's no more. | |
| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| The War Room. | ||
| All right, Jack Posobiec back in the War Room. | ||
| Final segment here, the War Room at TimCast. | ||
| As you can see, catch me on TimCast later tonight, 8 p.m. on YouTube and Rumble. | ||
| Another great TimCast aficionado and kind of a regular now is Natalie Winters, who now joins us. | ||
| Natalie, what's going on? | ||
| Hi, thank you so much for, I guess, to fill it in for both me and Steve. | ||
| You're doing a wonderful job and very cool to be doing it from TimCast. | ||
| Very cool indeed. | ||
| So you'll be doing the 6 o'clock show, right? | ||
| Yes, we have a packed show. | ||
| We're going to be talking all things Mark Zuckerberg. | ||
| I think what we saw go on today in the Oval Office about all things El Salvador, the meltdown over deporting criminal illegal aliens. | ||
| I think the media needs to be deported. | ||
| Kidding. No. | ||
| Wait, but Natalie, hold on. | ||
| There's another option. | ||
| There's another option because we've got the Bezos rocket now. | ||
| So maybe we can put the media on the Bezos rocket and send them up to space. | ||
| And then, Jeff, I'm just saying, man, one-way trips are cheaper. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| You know, I agree with your take, too, that the time of the astronauts is wonderful. | ||
| Wonderful, because we can use that with DHS. | ||
| I think they could help with the deportations. | ||
| I think this is all the convergence. | ||
| Ways to boost those mass deportation numbers, which we need to do. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Well, that's why they're running, of course, Natalie. | ||
| That's why they're running the Maryland man hoax. | ||
| They keep running the Maryland man hoax and saying, oh, it's the Maryland man, the Maryland man, the Maryland man. | ||
| They say it over and over and over, and it just doesn't work anymore because we have outlets and independent forums like the War Room, like XNOW, like Telegram, everything else, Truth Social, to go up and be able to say, no, this isn't a Maryland man. | ||
| He is, in fact, an El Salvadoran national. | ||
| He's a citizen of El Salvador. | ||
| You know who has a legal right to be in Maryland, by the way, is Rachel Morin, who was murdered by an illegal from El Salvador. | ||
| I don't remember any of the Maryland senators, Chris Van Hollen, releasing statements about that one, huh? | ||
| Well, if I may add, too, we knew from the get-go that they were going to be doing their typical fear porn, really tug at the heartstrings with anything related to the mass deportation agenda. | ||
| And I think that really the fact that the only scalp that they've tried to go after has been the Maryland man, right? | ||
| That's the terminology I guess they ditched constitutional crisis in favor of. | ||
| That term, but also the, of course, the famous, the infamous makeup artist, that was another sad tale, too. | ||
| But I actually think it shows you how successful and actually dialed in the Trump team has been on their mass deportation agenda. | ||
| Because if that's the best that they can do a gotcha moment on, right, with someone who actually is a member of MS-13, and the best spin is they can say, oh, well, he was a father, too. | ||
| It actually shows you how I think well executed a lot of this mass deportation agenda is going. | ||
| That being said, they need to get the numbers. | ||
| But I do think that they are firing at a pretty high rate. | ||
| And look, we wouldn't have to flood the zone with all these deportations if they hadn't flooded the country with illegal aliens. | ||
| So maybe they should be starting with that. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| By the way, I sent a tweet here from Greg Price, the great Greg Price, who dug up and said that when Rachel Morin, an actual Maryland mother, was killed by an illegal gang member, the only thing that Maryland Senator Chris Van Hollen did was give a statement to a news outlet. | ||
| My heart breaks for the Morin family. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| But now, when it's an illegal criminal, oh, suddenly I'm going to fly down to El Salvador and I demand to see someone. | ||
| She's not even... | ||
| I almost can't even get it out, Natalie. | ||
| I almost can't even get it out because the things I say would be my last words on War Room. | ||
| We were told that we have to accept a handful of apartment complexes being overrun by illegal aliens. | ||
| We were told we have to accept by Martha Raddatz and the media elite a handful of illegal aliens committing crimes. | ||
| So maybe they need to accept a handful of, yeah, maybe a little gray area on the paperwork in terms of what flight they were supposed to be on. | ||
| But maybe that's the MAGA equivalent. | ||
| You guys can accept a handful of people. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Good luck winning the midterms if you think. | ||
| That's saying, well, illegal aliens, they're actually not criminals. | ||
| It was a civil offense and not a criminal offense. | ||
| That's a really resounding talking point that I'm sure is going to cut very well in campaign ads. | ||
| No, please, please stop. | ||
| And then they go off, yeah, the Venezuelan hairdresser. | ||
| I'm like, have you never heard of an MS-13 front before? | ||
| How do you think they launder the money? | ||
| Cash businesses, Chinese, like watch an episode of Breaking Bad, right? | ||
| That's literally how it works. | ||
| They use fronts for their businesses. | ||
| It's such a joke, Natalie. | ||
| We are excited. | ||
| You'll be up right after us, 6 o'clock. | ||
| Yes, and good luck tonight. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm sure everyone's going to be enjoying it. | ||
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