April 10, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| I actually believe some of these deals going forward on the reciprocity, Eric, don't be surprised if three months from now, four months from now, five, you see Scott Besant come up with a proposal that maybe, hey, part of the way to close this trade gap is maybe you take a different type of security that's maybe got some longevity to it. | ||
| I think folks have to understand in the overall trade, President Trump is a dealmaker. | ||
| They're going to look at a lot of different things. | ||
| With China, I think it's beyond a trade deal. | ||
| Pete Hexeth, your buddy, is down in Panama signing an MOU. | ||
| We're sending Army Rangers down there to do exercises. | ||
| And he says, hey, if anything comes up, we're going to seize. | ||
| Actual Deluxe in the canal. | ||
| Pete Hex is not a guy that throws out things like that, right? | ||
| Game on. | ||
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Don't fool yourself. | |
| That timing of that is perfectly placed. | ||
| Now that is where they're playing 3D chess with the world. | ||
| Steve, your show, brother. | ||
| Looking forward to watching it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Eric, thank you so much. | ||
| Love doing the handoff. | ||
| Okay, we've got an incredible lot. | ||
| So much happened today since the morning show. | ||
| We're going to do another great cold open. | ||
| Let's hit it. | ||
| Then I'll take it from there. | ||
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Well, Mr. President, one of the most important things I believe you'll achieve in your presidency is reordering the world in a proper way. | |
| For 31 years, more than 31 years now, multiple administrations have allowed the Chinese to deindustrialize this country, to take away jobs and factories and pillars of our national strength. | ||
| And what you're doing now, I think, is a great service to our country, but ultimately to the world. | ||
| And I want to congratulate you and your team that's working on that, because it has extraordinary geopolitical implications, as you see from all these other The up two down one is not | ||
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a bad ratio. | |
| We're up ten down five. | ||
| And I think as we have talked about, as we go through the queue and settle with these countries who are going to bring us their best offers, we will end up in a place of great certainty over the next | ||
| 90 days on October. | ||
| What are you planning on using the money that you're gaining from revenue through the tariffs on? | ||
| Paying down national debt, reducing taxes, creating good budgets, helping Christie with the border and all of the other things we built. | ||
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I think I've heard of worse things. | |
| For the White House, that goods from China would be subject to a 145% tariff rate that's higher than what Trump had said Wednesday, yesterday, when he said that that rate would be 125%. | ||
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What do you think they're going to do at this point in this? | |
| I think the radical continued bill. | ||
| That's why I was in Africa. | ||
| But why are we messing around? | ||
| Just go to 400%. | ||
| Get everybody on a plane. | ||
| Let's meet in Geneva or wherever. | ||
| Look. What are you going to do? | ||
| 25% every day until you're at 400? | ||
| Just go to 400. | ||
| And then it becomes impossible for them to access the American market, which is 39% of all consumption in the world and 26.1% of the world's GDP. | ||
| China cannot do without America. | ||
| Period. And the reason that Xi would care about this and be laser-focused on it, he only gets to be the supreme leader in perpetuity while people are employed and eating and feeding. | ||
| And making sure their families are taken care of. | ||
| If it's mass closures of factories, he's screwed. | ||
| So he knows that too. | ||
| And right now, as Stuart Varney detailed, and others know this, it's a precarious situation over in China on their currency and a lot of other issues as you measure their economy and their GDP growth. | ||
| Now look, I want to be clear about this. | ||
| I have no problem with the Chinese people and I, along with millions of other investors, want to do business in China. | ||
| But I've had it with getting screwed on IP. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| And I want someone to go in there and level the playing field. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| And in some cases, yeah, they have extracted... | ||
| And signed a couple of historic deals. | ||
| One which is the Panama Canal Authority, a framework for U.S. vessels, first and free through the Panama Canal. | ||
| And then also a memorandum of understanding with their security minister for the presence of U.S. troops. | ||
| Fort Sherman is an old U.S. base there, as well as a naval station and air station jointly with Panama to secure the Panama Canal from Chinese influence. | ||
| That's something you said we're taking back the canal. | ||
| China's had too much influence. | ||
| Obama and others let them creep in. | ||
| We, along with Panama, are pushing | ||
| U.S. forces in Panama, that's, we'll go with controversial history, but what do you think might be required of the U.S. military under this deal? | ||
| I think that's a question for the Secretary of Defense and the President that hasn't been answered. | ||
| We've seen this a lot where they spike the ball and they don't offer the details around what's going to be required, especially the U.S. forces. | ||
| Look, it's better than an invasion, right? | ||
| I mean, the tough talk they've been having lately around Panama and others makes everybody scared of an actual military conflict. | ||
| So this seems to be a de-ratcheting or a de-escalation, at least, of the rhetoric. | ||
| And maybe we can move toward a deal that helps American interests and brings the focus back on China, which is what Trump and Hegseth have been doing this week, which is a lot more popular policy. | ||
| I want to ask you, | ||
| what is the future of this budget blueprint that was adopted today? | ||
| What are the next steps? | ||
| Do we know where it's going? | ||
| Well, it's a long process still, Christina, and there could be many pitfalls that congressional Republicans face along the way. | ||
| They basically just have an outline, a sketch right now, of what their goals are on spending and the cuts that they'd like to make. | ||
| But even those are not necessarily those targets that they hope to ultimately hit. | ||
| Republicans in both the House and Senate would like to make cuts in the range of $1.5 to $2 trillion, which is not what it specifically spells out in this budget resolution that they passed here today. | ||
| But the Speaker of the House, the Senate Majority Leader, have essentially given a pinky swear to these House Republicans in particular that want to see those steep cuts, that when the final reconciliation package comes to bear, that those cuts will exist. | ||
| Now, that's not going to be easy because they also have to pass what they're hoping would be a $4.5 trillion extension of the Trump tax cuts. | ||
| They promise that they're not going to touch the benefits to entitlement programs like Medicaid. | ||
| It's really hard to make that math work. | ||
| So, the Speaker and the President both have a lot of work still to do, | ||
| Christina. Yeah, when it comes to cutting without touching those entitlements, the math isn't really mathing, as the kids would say. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Baff. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Baff. | ||
| It's Thursday, 10 April in the year of our Lord 2025. | ||
| Just an incredibly explosive day all around the Capitol in the world for news and things that are vitally important. | ||
| One recommendation I want to make, and there's so much going on, is that Citizens Free Press. | ||
| You have this extraordinary individual, Kane. | ||
| He's a lot like Andrew Breitbart, even Drudge in the old days. | ||
| Remember, Andrew came up by being the editor, one of the editors, or actually the only wingman Drudge had for many, many years. | ||
| Those guys would work 12 on, 12 off all the time, seven days a week, never left the page alone. | ||
| Kane, we're very blessed to have someone like Kane, who is just a news hound, and he's | ||
| And this is how we recruit people at the War Room. | ||
| Those are the people that want to get up on a Saturday morning and sweep the gym and be doing free throws at 7 o'clock in the morning. | ||
| You can't get them out of the gym. | ||
| They just love it. | ||
| They love the game. | ||
| They love what they do. | ||
| It's so important, I think, to go to Citizens Free Press throughout the day because they're continually putting up great headlines and really framing narratives. | ||
| And two that he's particularly on. | ||
| And that Cain, I think, from his years of doing this, has become kind of an expert. | ||
| And there it is right there, if you see it. | ||
| If you're listening to the podcast, this is why you've got to get the command brief. | ||
| You've got to get the videos because you've got to – I know we have tons of podcast audience to listen. | ||
| This is one of the reasons you've got to get it. | ||
| We've got Citizens Free Press up there right now. | ||
| And it really summarizes the day. | ||
| Number one, the situation with China, this is not about reciprocity. | ||
| This is not even about tariffs. | ||
| That's all part of it. | ||
| This is the world's two great powers. | ||
| One power that was totally created by the elites in the United States, that's China. | ||
| The great civilization, but I mean destroyed by the Chinese Communist Party and they worked in conjunction with the Chinese Communist Party, our elites. | ||
| And President Trump has now said, hey, we've got a problem. | ||
| We've got to re-industrialize. | ||
| We have to become an industrial power to retain our greatness. | ||
| We have to have manufacturing jobs that families can build real lives around, right? | ||
| Not just these service jobs that are never around, up and down, have no stability to it, have no true competitive advantage over time. | ||
| So in his efforts to re-industrialize this country – | ||
| It's China and the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| The Chinese people are fantastic. | ||
| Lao Bai Jing. | ||
| I'm very honored to head up, be one of the co-founders of New Federal State of China. | ||
| It's one of these alternative groups that look to work with Lao Bai Jing to free themselves. | ||
| But I work with many, many others as being one of the proudly, one of the leaders of the anti-CCP organizations throughout the world because they're a murderous dictatorship. | ||
| Every bit is bad. | ||
| As the Bolsheviks under Stalin and the Nazis under Hitler. | ||
| They're just a brutal dictatorship. | ||
| We're in it now. | ||
| And that's why I think, you know, when people talk about, hey, we want a meeting with them, there's no one meeting that's going to solve the problem of what's here. | ||
| First off, as Natalie has shown you over years of investigative reporting, they're so embedded into the cultural life, into the universities. | ||
| There's 350,000 Chinese students right here paying full freight. | ||
| What do you think would happen to the university system if we told them to leave tomorrow, which we should do? | ||
| university system has tapped off this. | ||
| The national labs, the weapons labs, Chinese nationals all throughout that. | ||
| Biden allowed tens of thousands of military-age men of Chinese men into the country. | ||
| Right now, one of the lead stories up on Citizens Free Press, the Wall Street Journal is breaking it. | ||
| The Biden administration was told to their face last year in Geneva, | ||
| Remember when Chris Wray did the 60 Minutes that was so shocking to the country? | ||
| He says, yeah, the number one problem we have is China, the CCP. | ||
| Oh, and what they've done, they're embedded in all of our infrastructure. | ||
| I mean, the electrical grid, the communication systems, the highway systems, the transportation, logistics systems, they're embedded either through software or other means. | ||
| And when the flag goes up, when the balloon goes up, They will use that infrastructure to cripple us? | ||
| We've been asleep. | ||
| We've been asleep for a long time. | ||
| I know the war in Posse hasn't. | ||
| You're the army of the awakened. | ||
| And folks in this country have said, hey, I don't like what's happening. | ||
| I see too many business guys rubbing up on the Chinese. | ||
| Remember when Xi came to San Francisco? | ||
| And all the elites in New York City flew out there. | ||
| You know, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Asia Society, and all the big tech bros. | ||
| Remember they were slobbering all over Xi? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| That's who their allegiance is to. | ||
| We're in it, folks. | ||
| There's no one meeting to talk about reciprocity. | ||
| This is global. | ||
| It's multidimensional. | ||
| And one side is going to win and one side is going to lose. | ||
| We've got tremendous leverage. | ||
| We have tremendous power in this. | ||
| We have to smartly use that power and kind of bring this to a head. | ||
| I've argued for years, decoupling. | ||
| We can't be a part of a system that they're part of an economic system. | ||
| Because why? | ||
| Their system's based upon slave labor. | ||
| They're always going to drive and crush wages. | ||
| Always. Because Lao-Bai-Jing, unfortunately, are slaves to a murderous dictatorship. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| I'm going to tell the flip side of this. | ||
| Chains got up on Citizens Free Press. | ||
| We've got to stop kidding ourselves about federal spending. | ||
| The game's half. | ||
| To stop. | ||
| Next in the War Room. | ||
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Also, the House today also approved the SAVE Act, a bill requiring proof of citizenship for voter registrations. | |
| The President signed a similar executive order last month. | ||
| That executive order has been challenged legally, but this is a bill now that has been passed by the House. | ||
| It's going to go down to the Senate. | ||
| How do you feel on that? | ||
| Yeah. You know, there's that saying, when this is a solution in search of a problem, this is a classic example of the SAVE Act. | ||
| What Republicans are doing is, once again, demonizing immigrants for the sake of making it harder for eligible citizens to register to vote and to cast their ballots in elections. | ||
| It's voter suppression in disguise, not so much of a disguise. | ||
| Here's the truth. | ||
| It is already illegal for non-citizens to vote in our elections. | ||
| I got Benzman up because so much going on on the border. | ||
| Before I bring Todd in, I just want to go one more time back to Citizen Street Press, now more than ever. | ||
| Because since Drudge gone off the reservation years ago, Kane keeps a running they call it the stack. | ||
| And he's always breaking news. | ||
| And this guy does not sleep. | ||
| But like right up at the top, every now and again, Kane plays it pretty straight. | ||
| And you can tell, by the way, if you spend enough time there, you can tell when he's framing a message or he's framing a narrative. | ||
| But every now and again, he will actually give editorial commentary. | ||
| And I keep telling people when Cain does that, it's kind of like a papal bull. | ||
| You should pay attention and you should read it. | ||
| It's like when Trump says no games. | ||
| Right there, Mike Johnson makes blood oath to cut 1.5 trillion spending, except it's over 10 years, so just a $150 billion deficit. | ||
| I think Cain is right. | ||
| That's what we're trying to get back of, and I think it's one of the reasons Philip Patrick's going to be in the bottom of the hour. | ||
| Gold's now spiked. | ||
| The 10-year Treasury's not doing that great. | ||
| I think people see the potential for inflation coming back because, listen, at the end of the day, President Trump's doing amazing stuff. | ||
| Commodity prices are dropping. | ||
| He's going full spectrum energy dominance in every vertical he can to ring out inflation. | ||
| He's doing it. | ||
| The one that to me is the most important is you still give him this massive Keynesian stimulus. | ||
| And unless I can't do the math right, and I think I can. | ||
| I just see the deficits of $2 trillion a year. | ||
| That 1.5 trillion, I think, is over 10 years. | ||
| And remember, we've gone through this exercise before. | ||
| This is the reason McCarthy got turfed out. | ||
| Remember the time they came back and said, we have so many conservative wins. | ||
| We've got so many conservative wins. | ||
| We've got cuts. | ||
| I go, you have nothing. | ||
| First off, all these cuts are ephemeral. | ||
| They all take place in the out year, so they never happen. | ||
| The only thing that happens is an appropriation bill that takes place in that year. | ||
| And that's going to get me to Elon Musk in a moment. | ||
| I'm going to play that live because a bombshell was dropped in that incredible cabinet meeting. | ||
| President Trump basically had a cabinet meeting with the cameras there, which is extraordinary. | ||
| But Elon talked about the waste, fraud and abuse he found. | ||
| But I want to save that to after Todd Bensman. | ||
| You've got an incredible article up on Daily Wire of what you're talking about. | ||
| Let me get this straight. | ||
| The Save Act... | ||
| Now makes it official for federal. | ||
| You've got to have a voter ID. | ||
| You can't register unless you've got a real ID. | ||
| There's no more possibility we'll let foreign nationals vote in our elections. | ||
| On the other side, have we really started to criminalize it that it's real, that coming across the border, you're going to get thrown into jail first and then shipped back? | ||
| You're just not going to be allowed in the country? | ||
| Because I saw President Trump on your famous app. | ||
| I think it was yesterday. | ||
| He said, hey, everybody who came on the app since 1973 has got to go back immediately. | ||
| Todd Bensman. | ||
| Yeah, I just came back from Del Rio Federal Court down there. | ||
| I was in the courtroom for three days watching them bring busloads full of apprehended illegals into the court on charges of improper entry, 1325 of Section 8 of the INA. | ||
| And then a whole other courtroom full of, you know, they brought in 27 on the next rung up, 1326. | ||
| These are federal charges. | ||
| They are widespread. | ||
| I have this from, you know, the highest, best possible source. | ||
| This is part of a coast to coast, border to border, north to south initiative by the Trump administration to send illegal aliens that they apprehend anywhere into federal prosecution. | ||
| Now, the first timers might get 30 days or 60 days or up to six months. | ||
| Not that big of a deal, but that's only half the story. | ||
| The trick is that when we deport them every time after they're out of jail, and if they come back, then they face two years, 10 years, and even 20 years, depending on How many times they've come back and whether they've got other criminal, | ||
| non-immigrant criminal history. | ||
| The impact of thousands and thousands of these really is reverberating all over Latin America and all over the world. | ||
| We don't want to end up in prison now when we cross. | ||
| So that's significant. | ||
| I think it's been undercovered. | ||
| Quite a bit, but I went down to actually see this thing, and it's very impactful. | ||
| Something to keep in mind. | ||
| One other thing about that is, you know, anybody who's getting antsy and impatient about Tom Homan's mass deportations should just delay their gratification a little bit, because we have to wait until these people serve their time before we can add them to the deportation rolls. | ||
| But there's going to be thousands of them. | ||
| It's ramping up that program. | ||
| And it's a good program because it's got sharp shark's teeth in it. | ||
| You know, 10, 20 years in prison the next time you come back. | ||
| So let me get right. | ||
| When you say the 10 or 20 years, they catch them now, you get sent back right away. | ||
| If you come back... | ||
| The penalties have actually been raised. | ||
| You're going to spend real time in prison, so that'll be a massive way to tell people you don't want to do this, a deterrent. | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| Yes, that's the way it works. | ||
| If you're a first-time offender, it's a 1325 charge, a misdemeanor, federal misdemeanor. | ||
| There also can be a felony charge on 1325 as well. | ||
| That comes with two years. | ||
| Most of that's six months or under. | ||
| And these guys are like, ah, whatever, you know, free room and board for a few months. | ||
| But not if they come back. | ||
| And those 1326s are getting multiple years in prison. | ||
| I talked to judges. | ||
| I talked to criminal defense attorneys while I was down there in Del Rio in the courtroom. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, I've seen guys get 10 years in prison for returning. | ||
| Now, it gets even worse if they have criminal history. | ||
| Where, you know, they did an assault or a felony, you know, some kind of rape or whatever while they were here. | ||
| Then you're looking at serious prison time. | ||
| This is a really important tool because you've got detention and deportation, expedited removal. | ||
| We all know about that. | ||
| But, you know, when they come back over and over and over, you always hear about these repeat offenders, right? | ||
| This is the way you reduce the chances of a resurgence of mass migration by putting a big sledgehammer in the air over them or sort of Damocles over them for returning. | ||
| So this thing is spreading all over the country. | ||
| This is a big program. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| One of the things I think people are getting antsy, it's not that they don't like seeing Holman. | ||
| Or the secretary of DHS on these raids and doing these raids and talking about putting bad guys and putting guys on planes and we're fighting in courts. | ||
| The concern gets to be in this new reconciliation budget. | ||
| The one big beautiful bill now has the deportations part in it. | ||
| It's $175 billion. | ||
| So number one, that is a massive amount of money. | ||
| But two, people want to know. | ||
| They see what happened on the app and now there's 930,000 people. | ||
| When are we going to actually get to the mass deportation site? | ||
| Are we going to have to wait for the $170 billion to be spent? | ||
| Then you're talking years. | ||
| I think people are getting antsy because they realize the criminals that came across, yes, there's lots of those and they have to be dealt with. | ||
| It looks like Homan and Kristi Noem and others are dealing with it. | ||
| But the mass deportation part, starting with the app, the 973 or whatever that number was, when is that going to kick in and people start, you know, we start getting these guys out of here and start... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I've been telling the posse for quite a while now that, you know, you got to be patient because the Biden administration dismantled the machine, | ||
| The deportation and detention machine literally dismantled it. | ||
| For example, they closed all the – every family detention center in the United States was shuttered. | ||
| I drove past one last week, Dilley, in Dilley, Texas, and tried to get up there, and they're under construction now. | ||
| So it's still not open. | ||
| They're going to have to put open centers in the interior of the country to put people while they're waiting for a bus or a plane to fill up to come and get them. | ||
| And also, you know, there are other programs that are in play. | ||
| For example, you know, they want to put a registration. | ||
| If you don't register your presence here and we catch you, that's going to be a charge on you unless you self-deport. | ||
| They're creating some of those kind of programs to incentivize self-deportation, which I think will help. | ||
| But remember, the engineers of this thing, the architects of the mass migration crisis, Which was done fully, completely, on purpose for four years straight. | ||
| There was no accident here. | ||
| They did it on purpose with lawyers, you know, constructing the whole thing carefully. | ||
| It's designed to be a one-way road in. | ||
| One-way road in because everybody knows that it's difficult then to legally remove people. | ||
| There are processes, legal processes, to open up the way. | ||
| Going the other way. | ||
| They knew that. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| I'm going to hold you because I've got to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| Philip Patrick is also going to join us. | ||
| Gold's on fire today. | ||
| We're going to talk about why. | ||
| Capital markets. | ||
| Julie Kelly is going to be with us. | ||
| We're going to break down Julie everything on the legal side, particularly trying to trap President Trump and these folks in a contempt charge. | ||
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| The world. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Okay. So I'm going to have to move some things around because we have so much to go through today. | ||
| But I've got to get this. | ||
| This is bugging me no end. | ||
| How do I say this? | ||
| Let me say this in a way that doesn't hurt feelings. | ||
| But I've seen our attorney general, and we love her, but she's on Fox a lot. | ||
| And Cash is grinding. | ||
| I actually am glad they took ATF and gave it to the Army. | ||
| It may let Cash is fired. | ||
| Cash is not fired. | ||
| The job he and Dan Bongino have with the FBI is huge. | ||
| However, folks, I want this to burn into you. | ||
| I want to rub some salt in the wound here because we've got to get this rolling, and I commit to you we'll get it rolling. | ||
| And one of the reasons is they're going to ask for $150 billion more defense money than the $900 billion on the defense authorization. | ||
| So it's going to put us over $1 trillion, which to me is obscene. | ||
| And I say that as a hawk. | ||
| Number two, there's $170 billion to set up a deportation system. | ||
| That was purposely taken apart by the Biden regime to allow 10 million people in here. | ||
| And now we have to pay, it's going to take us years to get this ready to get these 10 million people out. | ||
| Now, if that's not a crime, it's got to be something. | ||
| And there's got to be a thorough, to your mind, Todd Benzeman? | ||
| The process of taking it down as they did that was so systematic, because you would come on here for years, and unlike all the other shows, you would go, it is not chaos at the border. | ||
| This is very well thought through. | ||
| They're doing this systematically. | ||
| They're taking it apart systematically. | ||
| They're inviting people in. | ||
| This is going to have a long-term impact for the country. | ||
| And in any indice you look at, this was probably even higher than inflation, right? | ||
| The thing that got Trump. | ||
| Back to office, because one of his core signature things, just like tariffs and trade and bringing manufacturing jobs back from the first term. | ||
| To your knowledge, or first off, am I wrong? | ||
| Is this not treason? | ||
| When you take apart a system that's there to protect the sovereignty of the country and the sovereignty of our citizens and take that apart, invite the world in. | ||
| And now we know that it's so hard legally. | ||
| You got to put all this stuff back together again. | ||
| And plus physically you have to go recreate the logistics thing of transporting. | ||
| And even then it's never been built to send 10 million people back home. | ||
| If that's not a crime or if that's not treason to the nation, I don't know what is, Todd Bensman. | ||
| Well, I do believe that there is a lot of fraud to be uncovered. | ||
| I will share this with you. | ||
| During the break, I didn't think of this, but I was contacted recently by a congressional investigator. | ||
| I'm not going to say who or which chamber. | ||
| This is an arm of Congress that has very powerful subpoena power asking me What they should do, who they should subpoena, what they should... | ||
| So there is interest in, you know, fact diving into what actually happened fraud-wise. | ||
| And, you know, my biggest concern, I told this person, was, you know, that maybe there would be destruction of documents. | ||
| There were going to be people that were involved in this thing. | ||
| That are gone now. | ||
| Political appointees, people that served in all of the agency of DHS, at the State Department, the Domestic Policy Council, maybe the NSC, I don't know. | ||
| The point is, is that this was deliberate. | ||
| It was careful. | ||
| It was well done, actually, if I'm being honest. | ||
| Grudgingly have to say how well done this thing was. | ||
| And there is room for investigation. | ||
| There's demand. | ||
| There needs to be investigation into how those... | ||
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| I want you to go through that right now, but President Trump just signed an executive order yesterday on Krebs and saying Krebs have gone around forever as the safest, it's the safest, most secure ever. | ||
| And Tulsi Gabbard, I think, said today at the cabinet meeting. | ||
| They have evidence of DNI of actually, and Lindell's going to be up here because he's skipping around lighting his hair on fire because I'm not a machine guy. | ||
| Right? I think they stole it with mail-in ballots. | ||
| However, I've always been open. | ||
| The machines are too complicated for what they're supposed to be done. | ||
| And that always gets, you know, that always has me worried of why they're so complicated. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard, I think, says the day in the cabinet meeting that, yeah, we think we found evidence or we're pursuing evidence of the hacking of the machines. | ||
| And Krebs, he signs an executive order to go after Krebs. | ||
| I mean, do we need and maybe help the president frame for the president signing an executive order about this, that this has to be investigated? | ||
| I mean, first of all, it's $170 billion tab, folks. | ||
| That used to be the size of the defense budget a decade or so ago. | ||
| I mean, that is a number that is just shocking to me. | ||
| And people in this town are not sitting there going, this is the most outrageous thing I've ever seen. | ||
| We took a system that wasn't perfect, but it worked if you enforced it. | ||
| They systematically took it apart knowing exactly what they had to do, right? | ||
| Then they allowed 10 million people in basically to take low-skilled jobs against African-Americans and Hispanics and also, as we know, try to gin up new voters. | ||
| And then when they're thrown out and the people throw them out for this topic being like number one, we get the tab, oh, yeah, it's going to take a few years because they took it apart so well. | ||
| It's $170 billion. | ||
| It's going to take your time. | ||
| This thing is maddening. | ||
| And I don't think we show the American people we're serious about this. | ||
| Of course, they're going to sit there and go, hey, you guys are just part of the swamp. | ||
| It's just going along to get along. | ||
| This has to be a high priority, not just the physical removal, but also the process of how it happened and who's responsible and who's going to be held accountable and who's going to go to prison. | ||
| Start with Mayorkas and the rest of that crowd that would sit there and smirk through hearing after hearing lies. | ||
| Yeah, I have to agree with just about everything you said there. | ||
| I mean, good governance demands accountability about what happened. | ||
| I've written before that we have to have a, at the very least, some kind of a commission that, I know you don't like the idea of commissions, but I agree that there needs to be fact-finding about who did what when. | ||
| And there needs to be a backing, a DOJ, Department of Justice backup for the things that they find for referrals on the interior of the Biden administration. | ||
| These are going to be The political appointee class, I've said this many times on your show, they did this. | ||
| They came from the NGOs, they came from the migrant advocacy industrial complex, not think tanks. | ||
| They came from those places. | ||
| And the things that they did benefited their former employees, employers rather, and future employers. | ||
| There's a lot to be done there that I don't think that they've, you know, I'm not sure that it's fully appreciated yet in the administration how badly people want justice for what happened, and they deserve justice. | ||
| Yes. People are furious. | ||
| Anyway, I'll talk to you afterwards. | ||
| We'll get this organized. | ||
| I might add, and Liz, you're in the gang for getting this to me, but to show you how Much the Catholics, the regular people and Catholics that hit in the second collection or something, supported the Catholic Charities Refugee Program and Illegal Alien Invasion Program as soon as the government cut it off. | ||
| Todd, didn't they announce the other day that after 50 years of doing this, we're out of the business? | ||
| As soon as you cut the government tap on, there wasn't enough money coming from Catholics to support it. | ||
| They basically said they're not in that business anymore. | ||
| This shows you how corrupt these NGOs are. | ||
| These NGOs are like barnacles on a ship. | ||
| We got to get to the bottom of these NGOs. | ||
| And then who supported the NGOs, the sources and all those guys? | ||
| They're all part of a vast criminal conspiracy to have an invasion of the United States of America. | ||
| The greatest invasion that's ever happened in our country. | ||
| Nothing else even comes close. | ||
| It came close to destroying the nation. | ||
| When the balloon goes up on the CCP I have people in the New Federalist Party, I have people that are Chinese, that are here, Chinese citizens say, hey, you have no earthy idea what's coming across the border. | ||
| During the Biden years. | ||
| You're totally exposed to fighting-age men, and we know we've got terrorists. | ||
| Your book, your book, expose how many terrorists are coming across. | ||
| I mean, your two books, back-to-back, were kind of the two guns, the two-gun approach to find out what's going on. | ||
| It just maddens me. | ||
| And I realize people have so much to do, they're so burdened with what's going on, but this has got to be a top priority. | ||
| We've got to get an executive. | ||
| I actually think the president ought to assign a special counsel and report directly to him in the White House. | ||
| That will blow up the legal community. | ||
| And they ought to impanel a grand jury, and they ought to start going – just ripping on this thing. | ||
| Todd Benzman, your thoughts? | ||
| Grand jury, good idea. | ||
| But most definitely, and by the way, one of those border crossers went on to conduct a terror attack, an actual terror attack in Chicago in October, Mauritanian. | ||
| I'll just mention that. | ||
| I went to Chicago and reported on that. | ||
| But the point is that, yeah, it's not just the NGOs, but it's their friends that ran the subcontracting bus company and the food vendor company and the hotel brokers that brokered for the hotel rooms and the whole thing up and down that companies that were created out of thin air because, | ||
| oh, my God, we've got to get, you know, mini buses on this down to Del Rio or whatever. | ||
| And we're going to pay you. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| Just bill us. | ||
| You know, that sort of thing. | ||
| I promise you that you would find kickbacks. | ||
| You would find evidence of overcharging and, you know, contract steering and all the usual stuff. | ||
| Whenever you have money, it's kind of volume. | ||
| Grace Chung just sends me a federal judge breaking news. | ||
| A federal judge is allowing the Trump administration to move forward with a requirement that everyone in the United States illegally must register with the federal government in a move that could have far-reaching repercussions for immigrants across the nation. | ||
| Your thoughts on that, Todd Binsman? | ||
| I mentioned that earlier. | ||
| This is a great idea as a way to create leverage where none exists on... | ||
| Illegal aliens that are in the country who don't register. | ||
| We catch you and you didn't register, you can be fined and or go to jail. | ||
| I'm prosecuted for that. | ||
| And why don't you just self-deport if you don't want to register? | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| So, I mean, it's a cudgel. | ||
| And they're coming up with more and more out-of-the-box ideas like that. | ||
| Remember, it's a one-way superhighway into the country always. | ||
| But there is no way out, really, except by a narrow country trail. | ||
| That's the way the system is. | ||
| The people that engineered this thing knew that when they were engineering it. | ||
| They knew it. | ||
| Everybody knows that who does this business on immigration. | ||
| Todd, where do they get your books? | ||
| Where do they get your writing? | ||
| Where do they get all of it? | ||
| While we have you. | ||
| While we're fortunate enough to have you. | ||
| Yeah, I'm on X, BenzmanTodd at X, and I have an account at Getter and Truth Social, and my website is ToddBenzman.com. | ||
| I work for the Center for Immigration Studies. | ||
| They're the ones that fund all of my trips, you know, pay my mortgage and that kind of stuff. | ||
| Great organization, CIS.org. | ||
| They're the best. | ||
| Todd, thank you so much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. | ||
| We'll get to the bottom of this. | ||
| I kind of like my special council idea. | ||
| I think I'm going to play around with that tonight. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| Something has to happen. | ||
| It has to formally happen. | ||
| We've got to start a process here. | ||
| I realize there's so much going on. | ||
| But, you know, we've got to get some more laboring oars on it. | ||
| This is a big one. | ||
| Because it's not going to get sorted. | ||
| People are not going to be held accountable. | ||
| The rats are just going to go down the rat line. | ||
| HomeTitleLock.com. | ||
| You need to man the ramparts. | ||
| Julie Kelly's going to be here in the second hour. | ||
| The work you've done, I think we've won five in a row at the Supreme Court. | ||
| It's because the pressure you put on the Judiciary Committee and others about these judges being out of control. | ||
| We need you to be able to do that. | ||
| Not worried about somebody taking a second mortgage out of your home. | ||
| You've got to figure out how I'm going to come up with $50,000 to pay it or $100,000. | ||
| Home title lock. | ||
| $1 million triple lock protection. | ||
| 24-7 coverage. | ||
| They alert you in the middle of the night if anything's up. | ||
| And they have a $1 million restoration program. | ||
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Okay, so basically people are turning pretty much all dollar assets into cash or something owned elsewhere. | |
| Hey, gold's green. | ||
| Okay, and a turbulent day, and there are going to be many turbulent days, folks. | ||
| One of the reasons we partnered with Birch Gold's four years ago was, we kind of saw this financial turbulence coming in Biden and what they did with the balance sheet of the United States that was going to continue. | ||
| Even regardless of what President Trump's doing, he's trying to right this ship. | ||
| Why is this happening? | ||
| Why are we having these Dow Jones down 2,000 points, up 3,000 points, down 10-year treasury, but gold seems to be on a tear? | ||
| What's driving that, sir? | ||
| It's climates like this, right? | ||
| It's volatility, it's economic uncertainty, it's dollar devaluation, all of the above. | ||
| I mean, we've talked about these issues for a long, long time. | ||
| It's all starting to hit us. | ||
| And of course, gold thrives in those climates. | ||
| Gold today has officially hit another all-time high. | ||
| We're at $31.75, up 21% for the year so far. | ||
| Bank of America now raised their forecasts again. | ||
| Gold 3500 by the end of the year. | ||
| UBS say 4500. | ||
| By mid next year. | ||
| Look, at the end of the day, we're in the middle of a geopolitical and economic realignment. | ||
| The global order we've known for decades is sort of breaking apart. | ||
| And in times like this, individuals, governments, they turn to hard assets and especially gold. | ||
| So it's not a surprise to me. | ||
| I know it's not a surprise to you. | ||
| Gold is hitting all time highs and is projected to continue to do so, at least for the short to medium term. | ||
| I'm going to have one of the specialists, one of the gentlemen now running New Federal State for us, and we're doing this big thing on Tiananmen Square, the anniversary on 4 June, and we're putting together speakers. | ||
| One thing in our research is showing that the Chinese Communist Party, as they're talking to people, they now have come out and they're taking the lead on the de-dollarization effort. | ||
| One of the weapons – and that's why I say this is not about tariffs and trade anymore. | ||
| This is two different economic systems, one that has benefited from the capital of the other. | ||
| That would be the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| It understands it's being cut off. | ||
| There's no place they won't go to take us down. | ||
| The one effort they're doing behind the scenes is the de-dollarization effort. | ||
| Are what we see in here people concerned about that? | ||
| Central banks buying gold? | ||
| I mean what is the trend you're seeing? | ||
| Because every day it's not simply the price that's going up but it's the amount of activity – | ||
| Yeah, look, de-dollarization has been a big part of this, right? | ||
| I've said for the last three years, central banks have set record year on year on year for gold buying, and it's in an effort to de-dollarize, right? | ||
| China, as much as they want to move away from the dollar, they don't have a better alternative from a currency standpoint, and they're using gold as a means to de-dollarize. | ||
| And that's the one big concern. | ||
| Obviously, there's a big negotiation going on. | ||
| And I agree with you. | ||
| I don't think this China thing is I think what Trump is doing now is saying enough is enough, | ||
| right? If you want to access American markets, you're going to have to do it on fair terms or not at all. | ||
| But like you say, we're in a precarious position. | ||
| We're carrying more debt now than has ever been held by any nation in history. | ||
| And China are large holders of US debt. | ||
| If they start to dump US debt, We're going to see what happens to borrowing rates on treasuries. | ||
| They already spiked quite aggressively. | ||
| If that continues, that could create problems domestically. | ||
| So this is a very tough thing to navigate. | ||
| I think President Trump is doing a good job. | ||
| I was excited to see the 90-day pause on the rest of the world's tariffs. | ||
| I think it's diplomacy in action. | ||
| And I think he's trying to create some togetherness to ultimately deal with the China problem. | ||
| Because ultimately, that's the big problem for us. | ||
| But that's why I say you go to Citizens Free Press, you get both sides of what's happening. | ||
| You have that, and that's fully engaged. | ||
| But then you look at, I think the reason that the tens have been spiking, and even some of the rush to gold, is the big, beautiful bill. | ||
| President Trump and Besant both have a theory of the case. | ||
| This is your last shot to get a supply-side tax cut and do it. | ||
| And I got that. | ||
| They're working on that. | ||
| But... The spending on this, and that's why it's kind of gimmicky about how this thing even came apart. | ||
| I think the bond market's saying that, and they're a little jiggy on this. | ||
| And if you look up in the headlines, it says, for us, it kind of breaks it down. | ||
| It's really like $150 billion of spending, which cuts, which even those are small. | ||
| Those never happen. | ||
| People, psychologically, because I know you get a three o'clock. | ||
| Out West, I want you to bounce. | ||
| But people have the psychology to say, hey, I should have gotten in years ago and Warren started talking about it. | ||
| It was $1,100. | ||
| I missed it. | ||
| And they get nervous about the highs. | ||
| What is your – how do you talk to people when they come in and you say, hey, it's an all-time high and it's setting an all-time high every couple of days? | ||
| But that's not about it being a hedge. | ||
| It's not about being a store of value. | ||
| What's the psychology there? | ||
| Because I know a lot of people are spooked that the price of gold is actually so high. | ||
| Listen, the reality is everything is high, right? | ||
| Obviously, we've seen the markets come down this year from the highs, but we've been dealing for the last 15 years. | ||
| Markets are at all-time highs, gold at all-time highs, everything. | ||
| Housing markets, rare car, you know. | ||
| Rare whiskey markets at one point. | ||
| Everything's high, and it's a reflection of what we've done, right? | ||
| We've had zero interest rates almost for 12 of the last 15 years. | ||
| We've pumped money through the economy, and what it does is it creates bubbles. | ||
| What we're starting to see is those bubbles come undone. | ||
| But the question is not, what can I buy low and sell high today? | ||
| The question then becomes, what's more conducive for the climate in front of us? | ||
| And that's where I see a big advantage with metals. | ||
| Trump and the team are trying to do is a big, big thing and in the process we're going to see bubbles burst, we're going to see global economic instability and gold in those climates thrive. | ||
| Then on top of that, you've got debt and deficits as the overhanging problem, right? | ||
| This is where our dollar could be in trouble. | ||
| Longer term, gold is the best hedge against that. | ||
| So I don't fear gold's prices. | ||
| They're a reflection of the dollar's value. | ||
| Unless we can curb spending and deficits, the sky's the limit for gold. | ||
| Philip, where do people go? | ||
| We'll let you bounce, make you three o'clock. | ||
| Where do people go to get you? | ||
| So very easy, birchgold.com forward slash Bannon or text Bannon to 989898, whatever you prefer. | ||
| That'll get them access to end of the dollar empire reports, a ton of information on how and why to invest in gold in today's climate. | ||
| And they can reach me directly on Getter at Philip Patrick. | ||
| Philip Patrick, thank you, sir. | ||
| Gold at another all-time high on the 10th of April in the year of our Lord, 2025. | ||
| The right stuff takes us out. | ||
| We are back in the warm for the second hour. |
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