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March 31, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4377: The Left's Plan To Steal 2028 And Jail Trump
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dave brat
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steve bannon
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ben harnwell
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matt palumbo
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
You're not going to get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish, in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Monday, 31 March, year of our Lord, 2025.
Wow, what a first hour to get the week kicked off.
Yo! Okay, we're grounded.
Like I said, we could go nine, ten hours a day and not get to all of it.
Caroline Leavitt.
Are you proud of her?
I mean, what a hammer.
Caroline is going to reorganize the briefing room there and put the podcasters and the streaming service and people have bigger audiences, have bigger reach and bigger scale than these tiny little dinky things like CNN and with all the snarky questions and the Caitlin Collins of the world giving you the bad face all the time.
You don't need it.
I wanted to do this back in 17. It clearly was not the time to do it then.
It's the time to do it now.
I think President Trump's just had a belly full of it.
You know, I think he's reached his end with these people and particularly when they're up there and they're explaining something and they ask the same snarky questions.
I think the signal, the signal situation has driven some people over the edge to say, hey, look, you can't, why even, why even engage with them?
So I think they're going to the back.
Want Matt Palumbo, the great Matt Palumbo.
Dan Bongino is now Deputy FBI Director.
Dan put out a little statement, I think, last night to kind of give an update of what he and Cash are working on and saying, hey, we're grinding away in this thing.
And don't think, Chris, we're not making announcements every day that we're not making real progress.
Palumbo has been his wingman for years over at The Great Dan Bongino Show.
So first, I got a lot of stuff to go through with you.
But first off, just to get the audience up to speed, because given the love everybody's got for Dan and understanding he's, you know, left this kind of vast empire he built from nothing, because I remember when Dan ran for Congress and ran for the Senate and then when he started, he basically started, you know, with himself and a microphone.
What's happening with the Bongino Report?
Is that going to be updated?
Just get us up to speed on that first.
matt palumbo
Yeah, so the good, well, first of all, thanks for having me back on.
It's good to see we're getting the bang back together.
Everything's pretty much the same, actually, with Dan taking this temporary leave to work at the FBI.
So basically, Bongino.com was sort of the hub of all the radio and other related shows.
I don't know.
BonginoReport.com.
We were able to keep the Bongino name because Dan's wife obviously has the same last name.
So they, the lawyers said that was fine.
You know, it's the only thing that really changed is we can't use Dan's social media accounts to promote anything because it would be, you know, he's the FBI director.
steve bannon
But Palumbo, hang on, hang on.
Tell Dan when you talk to him next, hang on.
You say temporary.
I hope the temporary According to Bannon's framework is 10 years as deputy and then 10 years as director.
So it's a temporary 20-year assignment.
Because that's basically, I tell people, that's what it's going to take to change this mess around.
It's not going to happen overnight.
Guys are hammering it.
But I can see Dan is 10 years as deputy because Cash's term will be 10 years.
And then Dan fleets up at the end of that and he's director for 10. And he trains somebody, maybe trains Palumbo as his deputy then.
So I see Dan on a 20-year run.
I just say that because I know the media will fully melt down.
Bannon says Bongino at FBI for 20 years.
matt palumbo
On paper, on the deputy.
steve bannon
So the Bongino report is going to be fine.
People will still go to that.
They got the shows up.
Now you've started what?
Spy woke, populist times, you're working with the Shen Yun guys.
Folks, the reason I want to have Plumbo on now, as the engine room told me during the break, they go Bannon, don't miss the plot here.
The black hand of the CCP is is all over all this judicial thing with, you know, with bribes and they blackmail people and, you know, their hand is in everywhere throughout the world on this judicial revolt against the populist nationalist movement.
So talk to us about, besides Bongino, who's going to be at the FBI for 20 years, what else you got going?
matt palumbo
At least 20, but at your suggestion.
So I started two websites early last year, and they, I would say middle of last year, kind of started to take off.
But one was wokespy.com, and it was modeled after Michelle Malkin's website, Twitchy.
Because I just feel like there was a lot of sort of micro stories on Twitter of some famous left-wing professor making a clown out of himself, where it's not worth a 1,000-word article, but it's worth You know what?
couple hundred words and then the rest of the internet making fun of them.
Then I did a more, I guess, professional is the word to use, a version of the site called Populous Times, which is for more long-form reporting on You know, right-wing topics, obviously.
And then I've been publishing some of my Shen Yun-related content there as well.
I got invited to one of their press conferences last week at the David Koch Theater.
And the topic was all of the ways the CCP is working to basically try to thwart their shows and shut them down, and in some cases, I think, cause harm to their performers.
And it was a 2,500-word article.
I thought it would be 800, but there was just so much content.
And I felt like there's almost a moral obligation to make sure you get every possible thing when they were kind enough to invite me.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
The CCP is pretty focused on taking down the Populist National Movement, whether that's President Trump in the United States, because they know that this supports Lao-Bai Jing for the freedom of the Chinese people.
But they are pretty focused on taking us down here, whether it's the Xenia and the cultural, or also what they're doing on the political side, the infiltration, the cultural centers, all of it, sir.
matt palumbo
Yeah, I mean like with the Shen Yun, it was like a multi, I would say five pronged attack, but I feel like I'm probably missing things where, you know, one of the things they did that they're also doing to others is they have bought armies on Twitter and other social media sites of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of fake accounts.
And they are used to Create this false impression of consensus on any kind of issue they want.
They also pay a lot of YouTube travel bloggers where there is this one video that went viral of it was someone that the script was like someone's on the 20th floor of a building in China.
And it looks like you're on the ground floor.
And then their narration is like, you probably think we're walking on the ground.
However, this is actually the 20th floor of a building, and they pan out to the lower floors.
And there were dozens of YouTubers who repeated the exact same line.
And these were all people with hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions of followers.
So just the effort to try to portray China as a first-world country is one of the big propaganda points.
steve bannon
Big. Matt, what's the easiest way to track you and all your endeavors?
Because you're one of the great voices in the On the MAGA right.
matt palumbo
So Twitter is MattPalumbo12, although I can't tell if my content isn't good or if I'm being throttled massively.
Unfortunately, it's one of the two, but hopefully your audience can help with that.
I think they will like my tweets.
That's where I mainly then, and I'm sure I'll be back to talk about this soon.
I've got a book about Alex Soros in the works that I'm really just in the editing stages of that.
I think there's gonna be a lot of, well, There's going to be a lot of original information that's just not reported anywhere else.
steve bannon
You did a great book on the father.
The father's kind of punched out, but the son is the man, and I actually think he's more dangerous than the father, because he's gotten more dialed in at an earlier age, and he's got a bigger war chest.
When is this book coming out?
matt palumbo
So I mean, the original plan was submitted by July 1st, get it out before Christmas.
I think I can have it in within maybe two weeks.
So hopefully that pushes back the timeline.
And you are correct.
Alex, not only has he been running the show, and the official announcement was back in 2023, I think June 2023.
But from my research, it seems like he's been running the show in Europe since 2015 to 2016.
The PAC that has been funding all these rogue district attorneys, he's been running That's how radical.
steve bannon
Palumbo, one more time, your social media.
matt palumbo
MattPalumbo12 on Twitter.com, or X.com, I should say.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Look forward to the book coming out and having you back on for the book.
Ben Hardwell, Europe, Soros, Hungary, the deep state, your assessment, Marine Le Pen, prison for four years, or they say they're going to do, I think, put an ankle bracelet on, but they're still going to have home confinement so she can't campaign.
How big a deal is all this, sir?
The deep state against the populist, nationalist, sovereigntist right.
ben harnwell
Well, the Roman classical author Steve Bergetius once said, Well, if you want war, vote for a mainstream political party, because that's what you'll get.
And this is what I was saying earlier on in the first half of the show, that this battle that That the anti-establishment, the populist nationalist movement has been fighting for the last 15 years, took place first in the cultural sphere, then when we won that in the political sphere, then when we won that it's now in the judicial sphere.
The reason for this, as I was saying, is because judges, being unelected, are unresponsive to popular will.
They are the last front of the system in its fight to maintain control and the element of war here is not It's not unrelated to what's going on.
If you look at the candidates who are being excluded by these judges from office, this is their last chance, why I called it earlier, Custer's last stand of the deep state.
So when I said before, I actually have a theory, a suggestion, if anyone wants to listen to it, it might be a bit edgy, of what can be done.
I'll just say it in about 30 seconds.
It's not that the judiciary, at least in the French context, That the judge has acted beyond his powers.
He has full discretion.
A judge has full discretion to do what they've done.
Even though, as Jerome said, the present French prime minister was charged with exactly the same thing a year ago.
unidentified
And he's not in prison.
ben harnwell
The problem, essentially, is this.
And you'll find this in America.
You'll find this in continental Europe.
The one country where you won't Fine.
This is in England, historically, for this reason.
And that is, when you have a constitution and you base your political authority in that constitution, and you base the interpretation and protection of the integrity of that constitution in elected judges, what we are seeing now around the world was inevitable, that a class of judges will stop the political process when their interests are in stake.
steve bannon
Hang on.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
Far be it for me to say that I have a better feel for the political situation in the United Kingdom than my revered friend Ben Harnewell.
But I just think you're dead frickin' wrong.
The judges there have tried to stop, actually got in the middle of starmers trying to send the immigrants back.
Remember, the courts there are starting to rear their heads.
Traditionally, you're right, they don't have a written constitution.
And that traditionally has made it so they don't have judicial supremacy or even co-equal branches.
But remember, it was Sir Keir that actually came up with the phrase, we have to have the rule of law, not the rule of lawyers.
So even in the United Kingdom, which would be the one you least expected, it's raised its ugly head, has it not, Ben Harnwell?
ben harnwell
Steve, your objection is absolutely well played.
And the reason is that Tony Blair introduced...
No, no, it's well played.
steve bannon
It's absolutely correct.
Yes, exactly, 100%.
A hundred percent.
ben harnwell
Tony Blair introduced for the first time in a thousand years England a system that was above Parliament, which is this Supreme Court.
The British tradition, however, is that there is nothing above Parliament.
And that's exactly why Tony Blair did it.
That's exactly why Tony Blair introduced the Supreme Court.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Take a deep breath.
Now that I've corrected your understanding of modern British politics.
Tony Blair did it structurally, but it was the Tories that incorporated what the Human Rights Commission report, remember that?
They incorporated it in some piece of legislation.
It gave the courts ability to actually, an instrumentation to effectuate judicial supremacy in the United Kingdom.
Folks, it's war of the lawyers against the right globally.
Bolsonaro's on trial for his life in Brazil.
Le Pen, sentenced to four years in prison and up by 12 points, can't run for the presidency.
In Romania, they threw out the winner.
In Bibi, right now, the deep state's after him.
President Trump, they're trying to send President Trump to jail for life.
Write that down.
They steal 28. And right now, they're trying to shut down.
To delay is to deny in his second term.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
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steve bannon
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Dave Brett, you've done amazing work.
I kind of I know we needed Brett on the outside as a surrogate And I'm not making a criticism.
I'm making an observation I think that will change the day of the sign of the executive order the executive order I think is going to be a little complicated because what he's doing is kind of complicated I think you have to go around and explain it.
I think you're one of the best in the country Explaining this so once you take it Wednesday is Liberation Day This is basically this concept of reciprocity of tariffs.
And President Trump's theory is pretty simple.
It's that there's not a free trade system throughout the world.
It's a mercantilist system.
The United States has been essentially screwed over by, quite frankly, some of our closest allies that we underwrite their defense.
That's why we have a trillion dollar That's one of the reasons that, you know, they're talking about cutting, oh, they've got to cut Medicaid, because you've got to pay for the war machine, where the war machine supports a whole lot of global elites.
And then when President Trump put the 25% tariffs on automobiles, the Wall Street guys' heads were blown up, all the guys in Germany, don't make any cars here, are sitting there going, oh, this is terrible, terrible, you know, didn't say it was terrible.
The UAW guy came out and said, hey, we support President Trump 1,000% because he's bringing jobs back into America to actually manufacture things called automobiles.
Remember, $800 billion, I think, of automobiles sales a year.
Under $300 billion, I think, are actually, when I say made, I mean manufactured in the high-value added parts of man, not assembled.
Not just put these parts from all the high-value parts around, just kind of bolt them together.
Actually made in the United States of America by United States citizens.
unidentified
Yeah, I'll just start it off real simple.
dave brat
First of all, Robert Lighthizer was on Tucker and did an outstanding job, so everyone needs to go watch that.
I was on Friday night on your show, Steve, 6 to p.m. and had 20 charts.
I'm going to just head right to the tariff story today.
But the bottom line is when President Trump comes on and gives his masterful presentation in a way that can be understood – It's very simple.
Defend the ethics, the justice, the corruption of this current tariff regime we have on the middle class, on middle class jobs, and every city that's been decimated, right?
Where's the Wall Street Journal?
Get the Economist authors.
Get Morning Joe and Mika.
They'll all chirp, chirp, chirp, and everyone's putting out their growth rates and whatever.
Have anyone come on and morally defend.
Say, the system we have right now is just great for the American people.
That's the biggest lie.
It's only good for the rich elites.
And so let me just show you a few charts and we'll get right at it.
I'll show you in Lighthizer.
I'm, you know, copying him.
Just start off in 1980.
There's China, that big pink ball to the left.
China's making a thousand dollars a year per capita.
In 1980, the United States is the far right richest country in the world.
All those yellow dots are Protestant and Catholic countries in Western Europe because they produced science and the Enlightenment and democracy and human rights and everything good.
The left has missed all that.
Then we started sacrificing that.
Next slide, Denver.
You'll see China and India, China's now that giant red ball approach in the United States grown at 10% a year for a decade.
And that's because they're doing manufacturing and everything good that goes with manufacturing.
Innovation, research and development.
They're catching the entrepreneurial piece a little bit.
But the one other major piece I want to emphasize is right now the current regime, the reason it's so rich and corrupt, is that basically some of the elites are saying just skip manufacturing.
Right? The US, in order to scale up and to compete with China, we need to have oligarchies and monopolies of a scale to compete with China.
So that is the alternative vision, right?
The vision that we have right now, where the big just keep getting bigger.
The auto, big three, the big banks, the big healthcare, the big government, the big tech, the big everything.
And the middle class and the lower class is just getting hijacked and robbed from.
Next chart.
I've seen some economists come out and say, oh, the real economy's slowing right now.
Well, no kidding, it's slowing.
Here's the monetary policy by the elites for the elites.
That's fading away if you don't cheat, which our side doesn't cheat.
And that's always one of the big temptations for our side.
Are we going to act like the left?
steve bannon
Hold it.
Slow down.
Slow down.
Go back to monetary policy.
What do you mean by monetary policy?
What are you saying here, Professor?
dave brat
Well, you see the massive increase in money that came after the 07-08 crisis, after COVID, $9 trillion on the balance sheet of the Fed.
Now it's down to $8 trillion, maybe $7.8 trillion, something like that.
I looked a week ago.
So as you withdraw money from the money stock, it's going to slow the economy, and there's about a six-month lag on that.
And then the next chart, the same thing holds for fiscal policy.
When you're doing a trillion dollars in debt, deficits, every hundred days, when you steal from the kids and you count that as government spending and investment, of course it looks good in the short run, but you're stealing from the kids.
It's totally unethical.
steve bannon
But hang on, you're not stealing from the kids anymore, you're stealing from yourselves.
This finally has an impact.
This is why we did Modern Monetary Theory.
What has changed here, you have, and let's say fiscal policy is about government spending.
Monetary policy is about the control of the currency.
So one is about money, the other is about process of how money is actually approved or how programs are approved.
The fiscal, and here's what we've had, or correct me if I'm wrong, Professor.
We've had, and you're seeing it happen right now.
Now remember, I'm the biggest supporter of the Doge guys and their efforts, but we have to start seeing, like, real numbers.
I'm not saying what they're putting up are not real, but it has not translated into, and let me be specific, MarketWatch, they have this system that the U.S. government puts out, and Friday they did a reality check.
On Friday they said, hey, if you take fiscal year 25, which we're in, starts October 1st, does that bring this?
Audience knows.
We are 7.8% ahead of actual cash outlays of money spent than we were the year before.
So, remember, the CR, the reason we hated the CR, but everybody's agreed, let's go ahead and do it, is that because we're approving Biden's and Pelosi's budget.
We're approving a $2 trillion deficit.
Now, what we were told, the Faustian bargain we made, is that Russ vote and people are going to, we're going to start impoundments, we're going to start rescissions.
There's no way the Doge guys continue to fight this fraud.
But clearly, certainly, we're not insane.
We're not going to underwrite the fraud.
We're going to somehow catch up, even in this fiscal year, as the other train of the fiscal 26 in the appropriations committees starts to take this stuff out and shut it down.
What we need to do is start to actually see that, because we've been promised, once again by Elon, on Fox News, Brent Bergen, $1 trillion out of the $6.5 trillion that cuts the deficit in half.
You've had this, and here's why, I'm not saying I don't like it.
But the political class is hiding behind it.
They don't have the political courage to actually make the cuts.
And one of the reasons they don't have the political courage, look at the overwhelming media, you know, just even in finding out where the money is, or just with people talking about, is there social security fraud?
Which I don't happen to think is as much as people think, but if there is, we gotta get to the bottom of it.
Even the mention of it, people in full meltdown.
Full and complete meltdown.
Think about when you actually have to do the cuts.
I keep saying, All the easy decisions are decades behind us.
We don't have any easy decisions anymore.
We basically have six and a half trillion, and the trade-off's gonna be, oh, well, Bannon and Bratt, you guys are all isolationists, you're all doves.
We ain't isolationists and we're not doves.
But the world system that it has today, we underwrite the security of all of it.
That's how you get to a $900 billion defense authorization budget.
And in the reconciliation, folks, get ready for it.
Lindsey Graham, these guys are saying it's a minimum of an additional $100 to $150 billion.
That puts us over a trillion.
Hang over a second, Dave.
Dave Brat, when I get back, we've had loose monetary policy.
In other words, just low interest.
Let's print as much money as possible with a Breach of fiduciary responsibility as fiscal policy.
We have a double whammy that is causing a financial crisis.
Folks, this is why gold's over $3,100 an ounce.
That would be a fact.
It's the convergence of these forces that's driving the price of gold up.
Why is the price of gold up?
Because the central banks throughout the world are saying, hey, I think they're going to do another drop in purchasing power of my dollar.
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Brat Ben Harnwell Stephen K. Bannon on a Monday in the War Room Monday Monday Monday Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
One of the engine room, the War Room engine room, a Marine, a former Marine, has Notified me in thinking through today's show.
Romanian opposition leader banned.
Brazilian opposition leader banned.
French opposition leader banned.
Ukraine suspended all elections.
Moldovia banned the opposition party.
Germany trying to ban AFD.
America trying to ban Trump.
On and on and on and on.
It's bearing its teeth.
It's bearing its teeth.
The one thing we have to do, and this audience is going to lead the charge on it, we have to get our financial and fiscal, to be able to combat the deep state, we've got to get the financial and fiscal house in order.
One thing we have to do is cut them off from the money.
I am adamant, I gave this speech in Colorado on Friday night, and I said, hey, until Tina Peters is released, cut all the federal money off to Colorado.
You've got to play smash mouth these people.
And also pass legislation.
They got a big district, they got a big federal courthouse, that drives tons of revenue, so zero it out.
These judges here, I think President Trump ought to strip them of their security clearances.
So then they can't get involved in situations like trying to be Commander-in-Chief and stuff, but you got to play Smash Mouth.
Now, time to play hardball.
He's breaking these law firms.
I think the thing with the universities, And I think the thing with the university has been way too tied, and as you know, I'm a big supporter of Israel, but it's in America's interest and the interest of the Judeo-Christian West.
This thing has been too tied to the universities, too tied to the state of Israel, just too tied to it.
It's deeper than that.
It's a hatred of America.
It's a hatred of the West.
They've got to purge the faculty senates.
They've got to purge these administrations.
And it's not about if these people are out there protesting for the Palestinians, although I realize that's the red-green alliance, it's deeper than that.
And they gotta go.
If you want to take this on, we got a shot to take it on now.
That's why I'm President Trump, and hey, I say, a guy like Trump comes along once in a country's history.
Here in our nation, we have been blessed to have General Washington, President Lincoln, and now Trump.
At the birth of the nation, The rebirth of the nation, and now the restoration of the nation.
And if we don't take advantage of it now, every second of every day, we're gonna regret that.
We're gonna regret that.
Dave Bratz up.
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A lot of people, oh my god, you mentioned money, you mentioned fiscal.
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And folks, don't feel bad if you don't understand this or if it makes your palms sweat.
I understand a lot of people don't like math.
My kid sister, my beloved kid sister who I'm closest to anybody in the world is my kid brother and my kid sister.
Every night was math with tears, my dad teaching her math.
But Jack Kennedy, you know, Jack Kennedy, he had to be reminded he couldn't keep fiscal and monetary straight.
He couldn't.
And they actually had a guy, one of his staffers says, monetary policy is about money.
Monetary policy is about money.
That's how he kept the two straight.
So don't feel bad if you're out there and you're like, hey, this is not my cup of tea, Ben.
And you got to learn it because you can't understand the political fights.
And folks, we're going to have a firestorm.
President Trump said on Friday that the word leaked out at the White House that President Trump is saying, hey, guess what?
You know, we got to do something and maybe, I know tariff money's coming in and other things coming in, but maybe we don't extend the upper bracket's tax cuts.
And of course, your buddy, your good friend Grover Norquist, he got big mad right away.
The tone is, he goes, Trump's a liar!
This is not what he said!
So Grover Norquist got big mad.
He big mad, okay?
unidentified
Big Farmer's big mad, Grover Norquist big mad.
steve bannon
I want to go back.
What are we going to do, because you're describing a monetary loose money policy of the Fed, coupled with prolificate spending, fiscal mismanagement, a physical breach, and they don't, this is what I'm saying, I need, we need Elon Musk and the Doge guys to come in and say, here's the number, we're not going to get to a trillion, but it's 100 billion or 200 billion.
That gap is still the gap.
If Elon can't fill it, if he can't fill the order, Which I suspect they're not gonna be able to do.
We need to have an adult conversation right now.
In this fiscal year, we were promised impoundments, we were promised rescissions, and look, we love the guys, we understand the pressure they're under, but the country's in a crisis, and if we don't solve this, the deep state legal is gonna gang up on us, and you watch, we're gonna have 10 times harder fight ahead of us if we don't get ahead of this financial.
Dave Brett, the floor is yours, sir.
dave brat
Yeah, no, the way you get out of it is Trump's speech tonight at 5 p.m.
Denver put up that big red chart with all the deficits on it.
I had Jamie Dimon or any of these guys, yeah, that red chart.
Those are our total deficits, right?
That's the amount we're importing and not exporting.
And so the news is gonna nickel and dime us on this narrative, right?
The basic answer to this narrative...
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Full stop.
I need a...
Where's that chart?
There we go.
Is that the chart?
dave brat
The red one on the left, right?
On the left, you see over time, those red bars are our trade deficit.
They're getting bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, always.
And that's Lighthizer's point.
This is not about some little one-off tariff here or there.
This whole regime is corrupt to its core.
And I got a few other charts that are going to prove this beyond any doubt.
If you look at that far right chart, you can see at the far right in that pink area, those black bars are getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
That's Trump's trade strategy against China.
And our deficits were starting to go down under Trump in Trump 1. And then we got hit with COVID, the Chinese present.
The next set of charts, Denver, and all this ties together is Jamie Dimon, Morning Joe, Wall Street Journal.
Tell me any of this is fair, right?
So that chart on the left, there's our deficits with Mexico going up.
In the middle, that's our deficits with Canada going up.
The right chart, if you can zoom in on that, just shows U.S. runs trade deficits with most countries.
So this is Lighthizer point number two again and Trump's basic case here.
This isn't a one-off with a country or two.
It's massive unfairness, massive corruption because whoever owns the manufacturing and the exports also gets all the nice properties to go with exports like innovation, research and development, the entrepreneurial spirit.
Just picture all of our inner cities back when we had Ford in Detroit where I was born.
Huge energy.
Positive energy.
Now it's gone.
It's gutted.
Next chart.
I'm going to go over this one real quick.
The left graph just shows, most people may not know, trade imports are only 14% of our economy, of our GDP.
That little purple triangle.
And then when you compare in the middle, the red chart in the middle, our trade openness, and this gets at our leverage position with Canada and Mexico.
The U.S. trade as a percent of GDP is small, up at the top.
Then you see Mexico below it, huge.
Then you see the EU in the middle, huge.
And then you see Canada down on the bottom, 60% of their economy is traded, right?
So that is huge.
That's why Canada is not too wise to get into a food fight with President Trump or the United States.
We have all the leverage.
And on the far right, that just shows the same thing.
Canada at the far right is about 19% of their economy is traded with us.
And for the U.S. on the bottom, you can hardly see it, that little blue line.
Only 2% of our economy is traded with Canada.
Now that's 2% of a huge number.
But the next chart, here's the bomb.
Here's the fairness bomb that President Trump ought to just use all night tonight.
This is the amount of tariffs and non-tariff barriers levied against the United States.
This is the war we're in.
So what he's saying is we want reciprocal tariffs until we restore order to the deficit problems that we just showed, which are widespread.
But also the tariff and non-tariff barriers.
How do you see this?
Very easily.
Look at the bottom of that chart.
There's the United States, the most fair, the most free trade country.
The tariffs are in the dark blue and the non-tariffs are the lighter color, lighter blue.
We're at the bottom.
If you look up that chart, you see Mexico, Canada, China at 200 to 300 percent higher tariffs and non-tariff barriers than we have on them.
How in the world do you think our manufacturing is going to compete?
And then on top of that, the globalists say, hey, we'll just lose manufacturing.
We'll just go to high-tech manufacturing, you know, computer chips, etc.
Services. With oligarchs.
And oligarchs.
Services. Right.
steve bannon
Yeah. Yes.
dave brat
Yeah, no way.
steve bannon
Not going to work.
dave brat
No way we get poor on that strategy.
steve bannon
That's absolutely breathtaking.
I think I want to redo the, maybe tonight or tomorrow, I want to redo the all 20 charts.
This is amazing because you're giving a real snapshot of where the American economy is.
This is President Trump.
Five-thirty a day.
Maybe I'll track you down, Dave.
If the president is on time, we believe he has an EO signing at 1 and 530.
There is an executive order about reciprocity.
It has not been signed yet.
I believe it's going to be today and not tomorrow because I think they have to socialize at least one day into the markets.
One closing point.
dave brat
Yeah. Yeah, one closing point.
All the focus in the press is going to be on these high prices, and they're going to link it to inflation.
That's a fraud.
I can explain that later.
But what you're missing, economics is always about the sign of what's missing.
A price always has two sides to it.
A price is good for one party and bad for the other party, right?
If prices go up, That's good for the producer, bad for the consumer.
Same as in trade.
So all you're going to hear about is these high prices.
What you're not going to hear about is how we lost our entire manufacturing and the middle class doesn't have any jobs in the first place to be able to afford the prices at all.
And that's missing.
The devastation caused by the massive deficits and the massive trade barriers.
These are not small.
steve bannon
It also gets back to the phoniness, and this is why if you watch the speeches in the crowd, they had these massive crowds, the speeches didn't land.
Because AOC and Bernie are not real populists.
It's kind of phony.
They're really Wall Street's running dogs.
They're a misdirection play to keep the global order the way it is.
for your charts and everything.
Hopefully, I'll talk to you after the show, hopefully get you back on the night.
Or when the EO sign, I want Brad on to break the news about it and break it down.
Where do people go to get your brother?
dave brat
Yeah, all 20 charts are up at brateconomics on Getter and brateconomics now on X. The young people motivated me to get social media savvy.
And so brateconomics on X, all the charts are there, as well as the 15 minutes on Bannon explaining the charts.
steve bannon
Dude, that was 30 minutes.
No, no, no, no.
Your stuff is amazing.
dave brat
Go watch it.
steve bannon
We love you.
Glad you're up on X and getter.
Yes. The gap has got to be filled.
The gap's got to be filled from somewhere.
Taxes, remember the IRS, although they're going to lose a bunch of agents, and they're talking about, hey, maybe it's a $500 billion gap because of agents.
Who knows?
I doubt it.
I think it's more efficiency and effectiveness.
But regardless, in your own personal life, you get a letter from the IRS, you got to deal with it.
One thing you cannot do is just put it in a drawer and hope it goes away.
It ain't going away.
Particularly now with these deficits and the $2 trillion a year.
By the way, the House bill for the debt ceiling increase is $4 trillion.
The Senate bill, I think, is $5 trillion.
That shows you the direction where this is going.
You just have to face reality.
At some point in time, we are going to be running some deficits, at least that level of deficits for a while.
That means if tariffs don't kick in to the trillions of dollars we're talking about, and the cuts from Elon don't come, IRS is going to be more aggressive than they've ever been.
That's just a fact of life.
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Short break.
Back with Ben Harnwell in a moment.
unidentified
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the city.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Ben Harnwell Ben put a put a put a band-aid on his knee scraped his knee Listen, we'll talk about the British.
We'll talk about the British situation tomorrow.
Let's do that You've got a bunch of great closing thoughts here and particularly with the Russian rapprochement being worked on by President Trump President Trump has come up in Putin's face a little bit.
You got the Ukraine situation Ukraine just told us Like I said, folks, we could go all day on this news and just love every second of it.
Ukraine, Zelensky told us, put your economic deal where the sun doesn't shine.
I think Ben Harnwell called that.
The Russians are still, you know, thinking of attacking.
President Trump's up in both grills of both people.
Where do we stand with all of it, Ben Harnwell?
ben harnwell
Look, for me, the most important thing, the war impossible, notice your pivot away, right?
When I was winning this argument, and tomorrow I will conclude this, you had to run off and hide behind an ad space, OK?
The warring posse will notice that.
unidentified
My fundamental point here, and this is so...
ben harnwell
What's happened today in France is absolutely astonishing.
People should not be surprised, they should not be amazed, but what they should do is take a moment to reflect.
If you believe, as the Americans do, right, and I will accept, I accept The Brits from this.
Because it's not a valid comparison.
The American system, the European system, you have systems founded supposedly on constitutional limited government, right?
And that constitution is interpreted by judges.
This current system is inevitable.
So what I would, my thought for the day is this.
It is time.
2025, the year of our Lord, right?
It is time for all the mature democracies to take a moment and choose and decide to abolish their constitutions because they are unnecessary and simply let parliament or congress, parliament or congress, whatever term you want to give your legislature, right? To be sovereign and to decide.
unidentified
Oh my god.
No, no, no, no.
steve bannon
Our founders had it right.
You got the balance.
So you got the balance.
You just need really think through the unitary theory of the executive.
Then you have you have balancing power in the legislative branch and a balancing pair.
You don't have judicial supremacy.
That's what allowed to happen.
Good God, man.
think of the problems we have in Congress, you think we're going to let Congress be supreme overall?
You're a mad Englishman.
You spent too many years in Rome.
I absolutely will.
Okay, hold on.
unidentified
We'll get to it.
ben harnwell
It drives me crazy when men and women in robes overrule the democratically elected system.
steve bannon
No, okay.
It's not supposed to be like that.
It's not.
This is my point.
And the engine room is getting right now.
They're getting all fired up.
This is judicial supremacy.
We have been building to this for years.
And a lot of people, even on the conservative side, that we used to talk about the Supreme Court, and I kept saying, well, hold it, we make the Supreme Court and these decisions like everything, they don't have judicial supremacy.
I tell you somebody's not going to sit still for that is a guy named Donald Trump.
That's what we need Trump.
We need to play the handout on Trump until we squeezed all the juice out of the lemon.
That's why I'm a believer in 28 and beyond.
A guy like this shows up every hundred years.
You see what's happening.
Well, once in a lifetime of a country, but every hundred years looks in the United States We had in the in the 18th century General Washington in the 19th century Abraham Lincoln in the 20th and now 21st century President Trump.
Ben, we got to bounce.
Where do people get you for social media?
We'll continue this debate later or tomorrow.
unidentified
10 a.m.
ben harnwell
Tune in and you will see me defeat Steve Bannon in this argument.
Until then, on Getter, My surname is my profile, Ash Hardwell has put in my great post there.
Steve, I'll leave you 20 hours to go away and read some notes, do some background reading for this.
steve bannon
What it was, a Kipling, the Englishman, Mad in the Noonday Sun?
Something. Mad Dog.
Mad Dog.
ben harnwell
I think it was a cow.
steve bannon
Mad Dog.
ben harnwell
Mad Dog's in Englishman.
steve bannon
No, Mad Dog's in Englishman.
Midday Sun.
Ben, wear your straw hat today.
Trevor Comstock, you're going to get us—thank you, brother, appreciate you.
See you tomorrow.
Trevor Comstock, you're going to get us healthy.
Make America Healthy Again.
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What do you got for us today, sir?
trevor comstock
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steve bannon
Your immunity thing, I will tell you, is that when I go to these conferences, like at Denver or at Colorado on Friday, I always try to have meet and greets and meet people, and at American Festival CPAC there's obviously a lot more.
I always do your immunity.
That's really got me through.
I used to get deathly ill coming out of all of them, but the immunity, take it.
And I think you got to take it year-round to build up your immunity, right?
Besides you say, get out in the sun, do exercise, all that.
Trevor, we got to go one more time.
Where do they go right now to get to the website for Make America Healthy Again, Sacred Human Health?
trevor comstock
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steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Trevor Comstock, the CEO over there.
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