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March 27, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4368: MAGA Is The Party Of Doing And Building Results
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mika brzezinski
I would argue that Joe Biden's presidency was one of the most productive presidencies in modern presidential history.
unidentified
Inflation Reduction Act, Chips and Science, and on and on.
So I'm just trying to connect.
What you're saying Democrats aren't doing with what looked like a very accomplished presidency.
It was one of the most legislatively productive presidencies in modern history.
Bring it down to the right.
And it was, but it takes too long to get things done.
These things move too slowly.
We run the government too slowly.
The Democratic Party needs to refocus on the outcomes it has promised people and not the process it has wrapped itself in.
donald j trump
There was no harm done because the attack was unbelievably successful that night, and it has been unbelievably successful every single night for the last four or five nights.
And that's the thing that you should be talking about.
This is something that should have been done by sleepy Joe Biden, but he was asleep at the wheel other than when it came to stealing money, of course.
Joe Biden should have done this attack on Yemen, which is basically a certain group within Yemen.
The Houthis.
And this should have been done by Joe Biden.
And it wasn't.
And that causes this world a lot of damage and a lot of problems.
unidentified
But you're right.
There's a political price for not reforming, which is where the Democratic Party is today.
So speed, decision making, the sense of action and purpose.
gavin newsom
By the way, a lot of what this president is celebrating is what the last president did.
donald j trump
And a lot of the investments.
unidentified
I mean, the AI investments that Sam and others were making.
You want to get the credit.
That's one of the reasons I think this speed thing is actually so important.
You want to shorten.
Look, the policy feedback loops are broken because people don't know who did the policy.
When you said a second, a couple of minutes ago, that these projects that can only exist because of your fast tracking.
Will not exist while you are in office, right?
That is a breakdown of the way the voters can maintain accountability.
When they don't know who did what, it's actually a big problem.
donald j trump
I don't know about downplaying.
The press upplays it.
I think it's all a witch hunt.
unidentified
That's all.
donald j trump
I think it's a witch hunt.
I wasn't involved with it.
I wasn't there.
But I can tell you the result is unbelievable because the Houthis are looking to do something.
They want to know, how do we stop?
How do we stop?
Can we have peace?
The Houthis want peace because they're getting the hell knocked out of them.
unidentified
Just piggybacking off of what some other members have said, using the DOD's manual, as well as the executive order in operation today with the Trump administration, this text message...
It's clearly classified information.
Secretary Hegseth has disclosed military plans as well as classified information.
He needs to resign immediately.
He needs to resign immediately and a full investigation needs to be undertaken with regard to whether other similar signal chats are occurring in this administration.
Nobody is willing to come to us and say this was wrong.
This was a breach of security and we won't do it again.
It is outrageous, and it is a leadership failure, and that's why Secretary Hegseth, who undoubtedly transmitted classified, sensitive operational information via this chain, must resign immediately.
There can be no fixes.
There can be no corrections until there is accountability, and I'm calling on the administration to move forward with accountability.
I yield back.
And so, if you, as the DNI, see such a thing anywhere within your organization's purview, you have the obligation to begin an investigation to report back to us on that.
Would this seem to qualify to you as something worthy of that investigation?
tulsi gabbard
Thank you for your question, Congresswoman.
In this situation...
Secretary Hegseth has the classification and declassification authority over DOD information.
unidentified
This chat did not have the auspice of being a DOD chat.
There's no such thing as labeling it as DOD.
This was a chat amongst...
A great variety of people, and you, according to our law that we passed here bipartisanly, have an obligation when you think there has been a tangible, significant leak of information to instigate an investigation.
Do you not think it's important to do such a thing?
tulsi gabbard
The National Security Council is investigating this inadvertent leak.
And again, I point to Secretary Hegseth as having the classification of the classification authority.
unidentified
I would argue that Secretary Hegseth, if he had the dignity that he needs to have, should be walking his resignation in because I believe that his probably is heading toward being relieved of his duty based on what I think are significant and illegal leaks most likely.
Ultimately, the buck stops with the president of the United States of America, which is why I made clear to President Trump yesterday in my correspondence that the secretary of defense should be fired immediately if he's not man enough to own up to his mistakes and resign in disgrace.
Additionally, the main person who was involved in this thread that a lot of people want to talk to is Secretary of Defense Hegseth.
And a lot of questions were brought up regarding his drinking habits and his confirmation hearing.
To your knowledge, do you know whether Pete Hegseth had been drinking before he leaked classified information?
tulsi gabbard
I don't have any knowledge of Secretary Hegseth's personal habits.
unidentified
Director Radcliffe, same question.
Yes or no?
You know, no, I'm going to answer that.
I think that's an offensive line of questioning.
The answer is no.
spencer morrison
I find it interesting that you want to...
unidentified
Hey, I yield back.
This is my time.
spencer morrison
You asked me a question, do you want an answer?
unidentified
No, listen, it's a yes or no.
You don't want to focus on the good work that the CIA is doing, that the intelligence community...
Director, I reclaim my time.
Director, I reclaim my time.
Here... I have...
Huge respect for the CIA.
Huge respect for men and women in uniform.
But this was a question that's on the top of minds of every American.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
steve bannon
you you you It's Thursday, 27 March, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
We've got a lot of wood to chop.
The last couple of days we've been live, so we've had very little of the actual show.
We've been showing you history in the making, both in the morning show with the live hearings and the House Intelligence, Senate Intelligence.
We thought it was very important for you to see exactly how the Democrats are coming after President Trump's team and President Trump's policies in the afternoon.
With President Trump from the Oval in this just amazing bringing people into actually where the action is.
It's unique in history.
It's one of the reasons here at Real America Voice through the entire day, but particularly here in the war room, we want to show as much of this as possible and try to put as much context as possible into this.
In a moment, I'm going to go.
We've got some pressing political matters at hand.
Both in Wisconsin and down in Florida, in Florida 6, and we're going to have the two individuals in the middle of those battles are going to come on in a moment.
But I want to go back to framing.
I think this is very important.
I don't think it's very important.
I know it's very important.
The hottest topic on the left right now, behind the scenes, is Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson.
And Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson are two of the...
Biggest thinkers they have and people that can drive things in the Democrat Party as far as ideas.
Remember this concept of ideas have consequences.
They have a book out called Abundance.
The basic thesis of this book is that we, the populist right, have been defeating their forces of good, the Democrats.
One central thing is that the credentialed class, the Democrats, have focused on process.
Have over-focused on process, so nothing can actually get done.
It's all about credentials.
It's all about process.
The reason that you have this rail, this fast rail in California that has now cost $25 billion, and they've got a couple of miles built from Merced instead of from L.A. to San Francisco.
They go through example after example after example of which the Democrats get tangled up in process, and it all becomes credentials, and who knows the process?
This is exactly, exactly, exactly the framing of the situation with the strikes in the military activity with the Houthis or in the southern Arabian Peninsula.
This is the credential class versus the working class.
What I mean by that, President Trump's movement, whether you're in the working class or not, it's about action, action, action.
It's about getting things done.
We're going to have Spencer Morrison on in a moment about the tariffs President Trump talked about yesterday.
Historic, 25% tariffs on the auto industry.
We're also going to give a preview for Liberation Day.
President Trump talks over and over again, the reciprocity of tariffs.
Because he's showing you how the international trade system has worked against the American people and worked against this country for decade after decade after decade.
And whether it was Democrats or Republicans, they sold out.
Working class people, this is what Sherrod Brown, who's kind of left the Democratic Party, starting this American Workers Group.
He reinforces what's in abundance, that they focused on process, and here focused on the process of taking jobs, this kind of state capitalism that took jobs out of the United States and sent them overseas.
President Trump is doing a geoeconomic and a geostrategic reset that has not been done.
Since the Great Depression and World War II, this is why this is a fourth turning, and you're seeing the beginning of a framework that will lay out a future of peace and prosperity.
You can see the sunlit uplands if you look through what Trump's doing and can connect the pieces.
It's all not just disparate, bizarre action.
unidentified
It actually has a logic to it.
steve bannon
They are very tied up in the process, in the process, all you hear all night long.
And they bring up all the people from the Biden administration and you sit there and you go, you failed on everything in geopolitics and national security.
And yet all they do, they sit there last night and they just talk about the process they had in the Obama and Biden administration.
And like the kids that sit in the first world class, they're so proud of the fact of their process.
It doesn't matter.
Pete Hexeth is working.
He's a doer.
He's a man of action.
Where's Pete Hexeth?
As we sit here today, Pete Hexas is basically at Guam in the, I'm going to pull out a random topic, the second island chain.
Pete Hexas, the Defense Department, President Trump, understand that the pivot of hemispheric defense depends upon the vast Pacific.
The heartland, really the heartland of the United States versus the heartland of the Eurasian landmass.
This is the most massive repositioning of the United States.
Since even before World War II, really almost since World War I, that the Eurasian landmass is not going to be the focus of everything.
You say, Steve, heck, you say that we're doing strikes on the Houthis.
As you know, and you see with Vice President Vance in the text, and you know watching the show, I'm not a big supporter of that.
I'm particularly not supportive of two carrier battle groups being off there, especially being a young naval officer ahead that duty over in the Arabian Sea.
But I do understand the Commander-in-Chief, what he's doing and what he's accomplishing.
And these strikes against the Houthis were unbelievably successful.
If you look at the disaster of Biden and Obama, the most successful military operation we have had up until then, the actual, not the credentialed class adventure process, but actually taking action that works.
Was General Mattis, under the direction of President Trump, taking down the physical ISIS caliphate in the spring and early summer of 2017?
Destroyed it.
What Obama said was going to be a generational.
Trump took it out in less than six months.
The strike against the Houthis, led by Pete Hexas, organized by Pete Hexas, was enormously successful.
That's what I'm going to talk about.
It's all process.
Ezra Klein has hit on something very, very important.
And they can't get out of their own way.
The credential class cannot get out of their own way.
Just watch it nonstop.
The New York Times, the Washington Post, MSNBC.
It's all the smartest kids in the class about process.
And you dunces, you mouth breathers, don't quite get it.
Here's what we get.
We get results in action.
Action leads to results.
Pete Hexeth ain't going anywhere.
Our policy is quite simple.
No scalps.
You cannot give them anything.
If you give them any scalp at all, any scalp right now, I'm not saying if additional things come up about how National Security Councils run or relationships with journalists, that may be separate.
But as of this morning, it's a no-scalps policy.
And Pete Heggs is exactly where he should be, in the second island chain, right now.
Reinforcing the Indo-Pacific geopolitical pivot of the 47th President of the United States.
Short break, we're going to get down into politics next.
Okay, I want to show the two leading papers.
The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.
They're both going after Hegseth.
They remember the Murdochs.
Why? Pete Hegseth.
Whether he worked at Fox or not is not relevant.
They're neoliberal neocons.
This is a fight also internally between the neocons and the America Firsters.
Don't think it ain't.
Pete Hegseth is hardcore America First.
Hardcore. They're after Pete Hegseth.
They also remember this audience.
They also remember the fight.
This is the second confirmation fight.
They remember the fight for Pete Hegseth confirmation.
They feel if they can get Pete Hegseth, and this is why they're all focused on him, they feel they get Pete Hegseth, will never get another America Firster confirmed.
Pete Hegseth is the hill we're going to die on, folks.
So get ready to man up.
You see right there, the New York Times, they're both coming in all day, all night.
It's Hegseth, Hegseth, Hegseth, Hegseth, Hegseth.
Bottom line, no scalps.
No scalps.
I'm going to get more into this as we go on.
I've got to turn to politics.
I've got two individuals who are on the road and getting ready to do great things.
Let's play.
I've got a cold open for both of them.
It's going to combine both Wisconsin and Florida.
Let's play it.
rachel maddow
So all of this comes, all of this very good news for Democrats comes as we're awaiting three very big special elections next week on Tuesday.
In Wisconsin, there is, of course, the huge, very high-profile special election that will determine control of Wisconsin State Supreme Court and, by extension, the future of abortion rights and voting rights and so much more in that state.
It is technically a nonpartisan race, but Elon Musk's super PAC has dumped more than $10 million already into supporting the candidate who was favored by Republicans.
Musk's PAC is also paying people, offering people $100 if they sign a petition against activist judges, thereby helping identify voters for their get out to vote efforts.
Thanks to Elon Musk, Wisconsin's Supreme Court race is now the most expensive judicial election in US history, which is gross.
So we'll be keeping a close eye on that on Tuesday night in Wisconsin.
There's also two special elections in Florida next week for congressional seats.
One race to fill the congressional seat vacated by Trump's national security advisor and group chat enthusiast, Mike Waltz.
Another to fill the seat vacated by Trump's first pick for attorney general, the one who had to withdraw his name over all the allegations of illicit drug use and sex with a minor, all of which he denies.
Those are both considered...
Heavily Republican districts.
But in Mike Waltz's old district, Republicans are reportedly growing a little bit concerned the Democratic candidate has out-fundraised the Republican there by more than 10 to 1, which means even though that's a very, very red district, Democrats are fighting that to win it.
steve bannon
Okay, we're honored to have two warriors, Brian Schimming, the head of the GOP in Wisconsin, and also we're going to go in a second to Randy.
Who is the actual candidate down in Florida 6?
Let's go to Brian by phone.
So Rachel Maddow teased it up right there.
There's nothing more important.
Folks, with all the major things that are happening in Wisconsin on election integrity and gun rights and right to life and all these issues that are bubbling up that these courts are going to be in, on the national basis, we have a 6-2 delegation right now.
That will change if the progressives win to a 4-4.
And in that 4-4, then, as you know, because you guys fought the fights in Louisiana and in North Carolina, if those two hold, it's going to come down to holding New York and California in 26, and that is going to be a dogfight, or Hakeem Jeffries.
And you just saw Hakeem Jeffries right up there talking about Pete Hegseth.
Hakeem Jeffries is going to be Speaker of the House, and Hakeem Jeffries' first act...
Early on January 3rd or 4th of 2027 is to impeach Donald John Trump.
Brian, where do we stand on this?
Because our audience wants to go all in in Wisconsin, sir.
unidentified
Already over 408,000 early ballots.
In-person early voting effectively ends at the end of the day tomorrow.
Friday, it's legally Sunday, but Friday for in-person at local clerk's offices.
So we're seeing about a half-again bigger early vote turnout than we did two years ago in the court race then, the state Supreme Court race then.
And you're absolutely right.
You know what they did, Steve?
They have now, on the issue about two seats, two Republican seats in Wisconsin, they want to redraw this map.
To draw out conservative Derek Van Orden and Republican Brian Stile out in southeast Wisconsin, they can do it if they hang on to the court.
Now, a couple of months ago, the opponent to Brad Schumel, the conservative, liberal Susan Crawford, was on a fundraising call that openly talked about taking two seats out.
Well, here last week, Hakeem Jeffries...
Was at a panel where he openly said, not the quiet thing out loud, the loud thing out louder.
And that is that it, in fact, was about picking up two court seats in Wisconsin, or two congressional seats in Wisconsin.
They said it out loud.
That is what the Supreme Court is about.
They're going after Donald Trump.
And it might not even take two years, because sometimes the majority of me, we've had...
Two members pass away in the last three weeks.
It might be before 2026 that the Democrats get the majority.
steve bannon
I will tell you, folks, there's other breaking news.
I'm going to get to it in a minute.
Hang on.
Other breaking news about the House, about the concern of what Brian's saying right there, the here and now, not in 26, but the here and now of how you actually get legislation passed today, how tough it is.
The intensity, those votes...
Don't make me feel well because yesterday we had the group from Pennsylvania on.
We lost this plus 15 because of consultants and people just thinking, hey, I love Trump.
We had this massive win in November.
Every day I'm sitting there watching War Room.
I've got the popcorn and Trump's going full MAGA.
He's got it's days of thunder, flood the zone.
I love what I see.
How could it be a problem?
You know, why do I got to go out and vote in Wisconsin?
Why do I have to work a phone bank in Wisconsin?
Why do I have to support Randy Fine down in Florida 6?
Everything's great.
You know, we won.
And there's sweetness and light.
Is that the biggest problem we've got, is that people are arresting on their rakes, saying, hey, it's all great.
I see Trump every day in the Oval.
What are you bugging me for about some Supreme Court race in Wisconsin, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, that is part of the issue, because the truth is, you know, we all celebrated, you know, the Trump victory in November, Wisconsin.
We were happy to be the state that put him over 270, but that was good for about one minute, okay?
I mean, he's doing great things, but electorally, that was good until from 8 o'clock poll closing time to 8.01.
Then you've got to press the restart button and go, what are we going to do to support this administration and do all the good things that I was listening to a segment before that he's doing right now?
And we can't stop.
The left never stops.
As you know, I grew up as a Republican in Madison, Wisconsin.
And so I learned a lot of my politics from the left, to be candid, and they don't rest.
If you support President Trump out there...
If you're in Wisconsin, or you know people in Wisconsin, or you can call into Wisconsin, or sign up with us in Wisconsin, so there was about 3.5 million votes cast in November when President Trump won Wisconsin.
This probably ends up about 2 million or so on turnout 2.1.
So every one of those votes counts a little more, right?
Because it's an off-year election.
So if you're in Wisconsin, you know people in Wisconsin, the president needs you here.
I'm up north right now.
I've been doing about three, four cities a day, and I'll be on the road through Tuesday.
And I'm just telling people, look, the job wasn't done at 8 o'clock on election night back in the first Tuesday of November.
This job is never done, but it is never louder and bigger and more consequential.
That it is right now in Wisconsin by next Tuesday night.
steve bannon
Brian, where do people go?
What site do they go to right now to assist you guys?
Have your guys back.
unidentified
They can go to our website, WISGOP.org, or they can follow me on Twitter because I put links up there.
My Twitter handle is at Brian Schimming, B-R-I-A-N-S-C-H-I-M-M-I-N-G, at Brian Schimming.
Do it right now because I'm putting out stuff every day multiple times about what's going on and how people can help.
We need help to save the president here in Wisconsin.
They could flip two seats to the Democrats, and they're going to be talking about impeachment a long time.
Before 2026, if we don't save this.
steve bannon
Brian, thank you so much.
Honored to have you on here.
Grace and Mo, let's get that out in the chat.
Let's swamp it.
Let's overwhelm that site.
I want to go now to Randy Fine down in Florida 6. Sir, the same issue down there.
What do we need to do?
There is no world in which we can lose this seat, folks.
If we lose this seat, trust me.
Everything will change next week.
Randy Feint must be the congressman on the evening of Tuesday, April 1st.
Randy, how are we going to do that, brother?
unidentified
We need Republicans to vote.
We need the people who supported President Trump to vote.
Right now, 20% of Democrats in the district have voted to only 12% of Republicans.
Now, there's a lot more Republicans than there are Democrats, which is good.
But we need to break through the complacency that you were just talking about.
People need to know what's on the line.
So if you live in the 6th Congressional District, you need to go to the only voting site is and go vote right now.
Our numbers are getting better every day, but we need people to go and vote.
Or you can give us a little money at voterandyfine.com.
Every dollar we get is going directly out the door to voter contact.
But that's what we need.
If our people vote, we will win.
We're not close like Wisconsin.
This district is overwhelmingly Republican.
But the Democrats are mad and the Republicans are not.
And so we need people to go and vote.
steve bannon
We need to get mad.
Hang on for one second.
I know you've got to bounce.
I'm holding you through a short commercial break.
Randy, finally, we need to get mad.
They're coming after Trump.
They got a, consider the federal courts the anvil.
The deep state's the hammer.
Boom. You got these corrupt judges.
They're already getting involved now in the signal situation.
They're coming after Trump relentlessly through the federal courts, the deep state, the resistance, the color revolution that Natalie does such a good job.
Natalie Warner is every day breaking down.
The battle right now is in Wisconsin and in Florida 6. And if Randy Fine is not the congressman on the evening of April 1st, we've got a big problem.
Short break.
Randy Fine on the other side.
President Trump is working on a geoeconomic and geostrategic repositioning of this country around America First philosophy.
That America comes first and our citizens come first.
Never happened.
President Reagan started it.
Did amazingly, but you had Jim Baker and all the Bush guys in there that thwarted that in the second administration.
And everything he's doing is complicated.
It takes time.
He needs that.
It's opportunity cost.
He needs to focus on that.
We need to focus on this.
This is why he doesn't need to do a rally.
They're mad.
Remember in the months of January of 21, February and March, remember how mad you were?
That burning anger, and we accomplish so much off of that using your agency and focusing that anger on bang, precinct strategy, bang, precinct strategy, bang, just move the chains.
They're in the exact same place.
This is what American democracy is about.
They're burning mad because they got beat, and they see the ability of us to do a new coalition like 1932 to basically govern for 50 years if we do it right.
It's going to come down, folks.
Believe me, it's going to come down to Tuesday.
Spencer Morrison's in here next.
President Trump, geoeconomically, yesterday laid out a bomb, and he talked about the preamble to Liberation Day of reciprocity of tariffs, which is going to shock the world.
Folks, if we lose in Wisconsin and we lose in Florida 6 on the evening of the 1st, that's going to be a very different conversation on Wednesday.
Randy Fine.
How many, is it 100,000 tier one voters we have that have not voted?
And I'm not faulting people here.
I understand everybody's still in the celebration mode, but we need to get to the ramparts.
This is fixed bayonets right now.
Do we have 100,000 tier one voters that haven't voted yet down in Florida 6?
unidentified
That's right.
And the Democrats are mad and the Republicans.
Aren't. And we have to make them mad.
We have to make them understand just what's at stake.
So if people, if you're here in the district, vote.
You can donate.
We could use money for voter contact.
You can volunteer.
All of those options are available at voterandyfine.com.
But we really need people to vote.
If we turn out our vote, we will win overwhelmingly.
But as I told you, 20% of Democrats have voted.
Only 12% of Republicans.
I know we have good election days, but we need to run up that score right now, and we have three more days to vote early.
steve bannon
Yeah, we can't put the pressure on game day voting, folks.
Let's bank it now.
Let's bank it now, and then we'll deal with Randy over the weekend, and we'll get a big, huge turnout on game day.
Last thing, people around the nation, can they go to this site?
Can they phone bank for you?
Are there things they can do besides hitting you with the $10 bill, sir?
unidentified
Yes, they can.
At that website, voterandyfine.com, there is a way to sign up to volunteer.
We can get them on the phones.
By the way, the Democrats are doing that.
They're making phone calls from Alaska, so we can get people on the phones.
Phone calls matter.
We're doing tens of thousands a day to make sure these 100,000 people know.
We'd love to have them.
steve bannon
I don't have a problem with Democrats doing that.
I want them to get engaged.
I want them to be mad, and I want to kick their ass again.
Let them know we're in charge.
They're not.
Yeah. Let's go kick some ass down to Florida 6. Okay, Randy, what's your social media?
What's your handle for social media?
unidentified
At VoteRandyFine is my Twitter.
At VoteRandyFine is the best one, or you can Google State Senator Randy Fine on Facebook.
Or if you want to help the campaign, whether vote, donate, or volunteer, go to VoteRandyFine.com.
steve bannon
Randy Fine, one of the first guys to ever endorse President Trump in the great state of the Gators.
Florida, thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
This is not time.
There's no discussion in your policy or this guy or that guy.
This is raw political muscle.
We don't have the luxury right now of having these esoteric conversations.
We don't.
There's plenty of time for that.
I'm a huge believer in ideas have consequences.
You know that.
But right now, we're in it.
Okay? And we've got to win.
There's no substitute for victory.
Let me repeat that.
There is no substitute for victory.
You feel good about November 24?
You feel good about that?
You're damn right you feel good about it.
You see the actions taking place every day in that?
You're damn right you do.
That comes from rolling up your sleeves and making sure we win on Tuesday.
And Wisconsin's going to be a push.
I'm telling you folks, it's going to be tough.
They are worked up up there.
It's a tough state for us anyway.
They are worked up.
These low turnout elections.
You saw what happened in Pennsylvania.
A plus 15 or 16 for the state senate seat.
People say, well, it's not the end of the world.
Well, yeah, but it leads to the end of the world.
Trust me.
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When I got a call over from Spencer Morrison, his book is really Extraordinary Reshore.
It's so deep because it's not about tariffs, although there's a lot in there about tariffs.
Just like President Trump, when he says tariffs, he's talking about something very deeper.
He's talking about the resurgence and rebirth of the United States as a major industrial power that has jobs that you can support families off of.
You know, they say what Dostoevsky, all happy families are the same and every unhappy family is unhappy in its own unique way.
When they talk about happy families being the same, one of the parts of it is economic security.
To take away that constant pressure.
You have the anxiety now all the time.
It's eating like an acid into fabric of the soul of this country.
There's no need to.
There's no, Spencer.
Morrison shows in his book, and I keep saying with Paul around these guys, it's not the second law of thermodynamics.
There's no natural property in the universe that means all these great jobs shipped away.
It was the actions of human beings.
It was the action of men and women that determined that those jobs are going to go because why?
They were going to make more money by having them go.
And now we're in a massive fight to bring them back.
Let's play the cold open.
on Spencer Morrison.
jonathan lemire
How Trump has made this so personal.
In fact, he took the Truth Social at 150 this morning.
The president was up late last night.
Says this, if the European Union works with Canada in order to do economic harm of the USA, large-scale tariffs, far larger than currently planned, will be placed on them both.
So all sorts of uses that post brimming with resentment and anger there from the president to both Canada and the EU and just seemingly threats of further and further escalation and trade war.
unidentified
So, Jonathan, I think we often underestimate just how passionate Donald Trump is about tariffs.
You go back years reading and listening to what he's had to say, and this has been this idea that we can somehow go back to the 19th century and build Fortress America and revive our manufacturing behind tariff walls is something he's long believed.
Briefly, it's very important to separate out what the Trump team is doing using a framework that Goldman Sachs used to teach its incoming analysts, goal, strategy and tactics.
Goal vaguely is an instinct to so-called make America great again.
The strategy is to try and reset the global economic, trade, tech and military relationships.
The tactics are tariffs and all the threats and bullies and the uncertainty.
And it's important not to confuse the tactics with a bigger goal, which is basically to try and reorientate the whole economic system.
So these on-off tariffs, these threats, these bullies, are all about trying to soften up what Trump would regard as, or used to regard as friends, many people now think are more like foes, soften them up to agree to some big reset of the global economy.
and trading system.
Whether it's going to work, we don't know, but insofar as they think these tactics about trade threats and tariffs are going to keep giving them leverage and power, it's all about hegemony Okay, there's two people right there.
steve bannon
That was Jillian Tett.
She was one of the most brilliant women in the world about this entire capital markets, currency, all of it.
You know why?
She's the editor, one of the senior editors of the Financial Times of London.
That paper right there.
This is from, this is a little older edition.
But once again, the screaming headline is about Trump and the 25% tariffs.
Why? This paper was actually formed back in the 19th century with The Economist, I think about the same time, about free trade.
Because the British kind of had a mercantilist system and kept it going, but they...
Covered it under, oh, you've got to have free trade during the big fight over the corn laws.
Then one day I'll break down for you.
Or maybe Spencer can break it down for me.
David Ignatius, as Ben Harnwell says, he's the leading spokesman.
He's the CIA spokesman for the Langley Bugle, which we call the Washington Post.
Right there, you see he's talking about geoeconomics and geostrategic.
And I will tell you, having known President Trump pretty well, This gets to the core of his purpose of why he even ran to be president of the United States.
He's talked about this for decades.
Spencer Morrison joins us.
The book's extraordinary.
Reshoring is the book.
Talk to me.
We've got about a minute here, Spencer.
I'm going to hold you through the break.
I want to pull the camera back for a second.
Based on your introduction to your book, you don't really talk about numbers or anything like that.
You talk about...
The central beating heart of what this issue is about high-value-added manufacturing jobs and how that's the underpinning of the American Republic, sir.
spencer morrison
Hi, Steve.
Thanks for having me on the show.
That's exactly right.
I just want to make the point.
We have just a very brief amount of time.
So economics and politics, money, power, they're two sides of the exact same coin.
I think it's really important to remember that without economic independence, like the ability to manufacture our own steel, machinery, semiconductors, we can't actually have political independence.
America's founding fathers knew this.
They learned this during the American Revolution.
And President Trump knows this very well.
And this goes back to Liberation Day.
President Trump says April 2nd is going to be Liberation Day for America.
Liberation Day.
The celebration of America's industry, the celebration of our economy, the celebration of our economic autarchy, of our economic nationalism.
It's just as important as Independence Day, because the two are the same thing.
So I'm really happy that President Trump is talking about this.
And perhaps after the break, we'll get into some of the numbers and what the tariffs actually mean for the auto industry.
steve bannon
What I want to do is want to bring you back to a break, take a short break.
We're going to do the 25% tariffs from yesterday, and then we're going to talk about how that's – this is all pretty well thought through.
Trump did that yesterday as a lead-up through the weekend to Liberation Day on Tuesday.
Extraordinary. This is the beating heart.
Of President Trump's Make America Great Again.
The underpinnings of Make America Great Again are Make America a great manufacturing powerhouse.
Again. And you heard Jillian Tett from the Financial Times.
And you heard David Ignatius from the CIA.
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Spencer, 25% tariffs on automotives.
Why is that good for the American people?
I've heard some guys in the automotive industry say, oh, this is a disaster.
Why is it good, and why did President Trump do that as the opening?
That's the preamble for Liberation Day.
He did this for a specific reason.
Why, sir?
spencer morrison
Well, he did it as a preamble to Liberation Day because automobiles are such a core element of any industrialized society.
All the components that are used in manufacturing automobiles, the engines, there's a lot of transferable technology that relates to everything that we need.
You know, in order to engage in a successful military conflict to defend our nation.
So automobiles are at the core of everything.
You know, this is where a lot of our steel goes to, for example.
Now, the 25% tariffs are super, super important.
And they're going to do really two things.
So what the tariffs are going to do is they're going to decrease the amount of imported products that are coming into the country.
America imports an amazing amount of automobiles, right?
If you think about it, we produce about $800 billion worth of automobiles, parts, engines, and we're importing almost $500 billion.
So a huge fraction of everything that we consume in this country is imported, especially when it comes to these important vehicles.
So what the tariffs are going to do is they're going to decrease the amount that we're importing.
steve bannon
Hold it, hold it, full on, full stop, full stop.
With all the factories that have been built and all the guys to control Toyota.
You're telling me of the almost $800 billion a year that we do in retail purchase of cars, that $500 billion, almost over 50%, is actually manufactured outside the country and brought into the country, sir?
spencer morrison
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
This industry has been completely hollowed out.
America is reliant on foreign imports.
We import a ton of vehicles from Europe.
You know, a sizable fraction of them are coming from Canada and from Mexico.
But the long and short of it is that we're importing over half of everything that we're consuming in terms of the automobile industry.
So what we need to do is reshore those factories.
Tariffs are going to allow us to do that because it's going to raise the cost of importing, and that's going to create a really big incentive, an economic necessity for these foreign manufacturers to build factories in America.
And we're already seeing a bit of that.
The tariffs were announced, even Hyundai.
They said they're going to invest another $21 billion in America, including they're going to build a new steel plant in Louisiana, right?
So that's the first step.
We're going to reshore those factories, and it's already happening.
It's going to be billions and billions of dollars in capital investment.
And you think about, you go back to Adam Smith.
I mean, Adam Smith, how do you get rich?
How do countries get rich?
They get rich by accumulating capital, right?
Getting machinery, building factories, things that allow you to produce things more efficiently, right?
So when we accumulate that capital, when we invest in ourselves, we set ourselves up to get rich, not just now in the short term, but in the long term, 100 years from now.
So once we have those factories, that's obviously going to create a ton of jobs as well, right?
And if you think about it, the auto industry employs about a million people, and that's for $800 billion worth of production.
So if we can reshore, and President Trump's trade team, they're saying that this is going to decrease imports by about 75%.
American workers are going to pick up the slack.
So we're talking about creating somewhere between 300,000 and 500,000 good-paying manufacturing jobs, the sorts of jobs that we lost.
steve bannon
Well, hold on.
spencer morrison
Hang on.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Just hang on.
The $800 billion, though, we only manufacture, according to your numbers, about $300 billion of the $800 billion or $400 billion max of the $800 billion here.
So that's a million high-paying jobs for this stat.
If we take it to 75 percent… Yeah, I would imagine that they're targeting half a million jobs.
spencer morrison
And I just want to say that it's not just half a million jobs.
This is half a million jobs in the manufacturing industry.
This is like factory floor industrial jobs.
And those jobs pay far above average, right?
These are good-paying jobs that we've lost to advanced technology countries like Germany and Italy and Canada, right?
So these are good jobs.
But it's not just that.
They also support a host of other jobs, right?
So factories, it's really important, Steve, that everybody understands that a factory is not just A service, right?
A factory is an anchor industry, sort of like a mine or good farmland, right?
Other service industries build themselves up around factories.
That's the whole reason that Detroit and Michigan became rich.
I mean, we had American automakers building factories, and then these towns coalesced around the factories, right?
Like Henry Ford's Dearborn factory.
Millions of people live around that.
Hang on for one second.
steve bannon
It was the arsenal of democracy in the Second World War.
Remember, with all of our valor and all of our courage, from Normandy to the skies of the Eighth Air Force over Germany, the daylight precision bombing that nobody else would do, to the Pacific, to places like Guam, where...
Where Pete Hexas is today in the second island chain, in that third island chain that we fought and left all that blood and terror in Peleliu.
It was the arsenal of democracy coupled with our courage and valor that made the difference.
That was American manufacturing.
That is burned into the soul of Donald Trump.
If you don't understand that about Trump, you don't understand Trump.
And he is fighting Wall Street.
The corporatist, the globalist, all of it.
This is where you get to the thing itself.
Spencer's going to stay with us.
We're going to talk about Liberation Day next week.
Also, geopolitically, the hemispheric defense, one of the linchpins, a great ally, Bolsonaro in Brazil.
He goes on trial, essentially for his life, this week.
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