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Episode 4326: The Fight Of The Singularity
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steve bannon
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You're just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
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jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
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unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.
steve bannon
It's Monday, 10 March in the year of our Lord, 2025, as a striker brigade heads to El Paso, Texas, as CIA assets are pulled out of Ukraine and their reapers going over Mexico, obviously, and targeting exercises themselves. as CIA assets are pulled out of Ukraine and their The Mexican president has a conciliatory speech yesterday.
It was, quite frankly, a barn burner and kind of shocking of her pivot back to kind of working with President Trump.
We have Oscar Blue Ramirez in Mexico City.
At the same time...
The Liberal Party of Canada shows new leadership, and the person I thought that might be competitive was kind of blown out, and a true globalist who doesn't even live in Canada is selected.
Viva Frye, first off, when are there going to be...
I was kind of surprised Freeland was not selected, and one of the reasons I thought she was quite realistic when she quit, she sent a letter to Trudeau that said, hey, look...
You don't understand.
Trump is very serious about what he's doing.
And there are issues around this, because she's been one of the lead negotiators.
I know her quite well.
And she says, you're not prepared.
You haven't prepared the budget.
And I'm not going to be a party to this anymore.
I'm out.
Clearly, the Liberal Party didn't dig that.
They wanted a different take on this by going to this globalist.
Are we close now to an election so we can have the populist?
Or which passes now as a populace in Canada go against the established order, sir?
viva frei
The federally required election based on statute has to be held within every four years.
I think it's September, October 2025. I last ran in September 2021 for the People's Party of Canada.
So it's four years, give or take, from there.
It's an interesting thing.
Freeland, when she resigned, she sent that letter.
It looked like she was sort of covering her own butt for re-election.
The thing that people didn't really understand, myself included, Is what an active role Carney was playing behind the scenes in terms of being an advisor, a de facto off the record advisor to Trudeau.
And so when she resigned, she probably burnt all of her political goodwill within the Liberal Party.
That's how corrupt it is.
I say, you know, the ultimate irony is Trudeau lamenting the fact that America is a misogynist country for not electing.
Kamala as a president because, you know, she was the woman.
It was time.
The two women running for the leadership of the Liberal Party could barely get 7% or 8% or say 10% of the total vote to the white man.
So set aside that irony.
I don't play these identity politics games.
It's just very, very ironic that Trudeau attacks America for being misogynist.
And then lo and behold, this backdoor old school white boy globalist comes in and steals all of the vote.
So the election has to be held before October 2025, unless there's some crisis to manage and they have to suspend elections because we've learned what we can do in a time of war, like in Ukraine, just declare martial law and postpone elections indefinitely.
Or we've learned what we can do in Romania, if you don't like the results, accuse the adversary of being funded by Russian interests or TikTok and whatever, and annul the vote.
That's the geopolitical landscape.
People do need to understand this was not the national election.
This was just a replacement of the leadership of the Liberal Party as per their rules, which is how you end up with 152,000 registered Liberals who's going to be the next interim Prime Minister of the entire country of Canada.
steve bannon
You know, it's interesting you mention that, Viva, because it was spun yesterday that, like, this is a national election.
Canada's got a new leader, and if you don't follow these things closely, at least on the headlines and the way the general news presented here, including CNN, you thought that, hey, Carney had just been elected by the people of Canada, and it was game on.
Is there any chance we could have an election before September or October?
Could there be an election in May or June of this year?
viva frei
Yeah, oddly enough, and by the way, I saw that too.
I couldn't understand why people were saying Paulier had been defeated.
He hasn't.
There hasn't been a federal election.
Yes, there can be an election earlier than the legislatively required four-year span.
They just need to pass a motion for non-confidence, and then they automatically trigger a new election when Parliament says we no longer have confidence in the party that has a minority government.
And the only reason that hasn't happened...
It's funny, we haven't mentioned the other devil in all of this, is Jagmeet Singh of the NDP, the New Democrat Party, has been coalitioning effectively with the Liberals.
They had a supply and confidence agreement for a couple of years.
Jagmeet Singh, who spends all day dumping on the Liberals on social media, has been propping up that government for the better part of two plus years, and only so that, many suspect, Jagmeet Singh could reach his federal pension deadline, which was February 2025. Now that that's accrued...
You know, he's more at liberty to pass a non-confidence vote so they can trigger elections before the 2025 deadline.
Whether or not he does it is up to him, really, because he's corrupt as the day is long.
He secured his federal pension, but I believe he knows he's out of office after the next election.
steve bannon
Viva, how do people follow you?
Because you come in hot on Twitter.
So where do people go to get all the Viva Fry they want?
viva frei
If you don't like swearing, catch me at Viva Fry on Rumble, vivabarring.locals.com.
For the sauce, Angrier Viva, it's the Viva Fry on X.
unidentified
Yeah, I've had about my patience come to an end.
viva frei
I've been an Asian person.
steve bannon
Viva, thank you so much.
Great analysis.
Great assessment.
Oscar Blue Ramirez, there's been a massive pivot.
You've covered it from the beginning.
I mean, over the last four or five years, you've just done such combat duty.
It's got to be amazing for you to be in Mexico City and see that, and great compliments, all the great work.
However, the striker brigades are not heading, and this is, you know, as heavy armor as you can kind of get.
I guess it's light infantry, but this is a very combat-oriented.
You don't send strikers to secure the southern border.
And Benzman's actually down now.
We'll have Todd either tonight or tomorrow.
He's at the southern border to go through how it was secured so quickly, detail by detail.
You don't need the 12,000 combat troops and combat logistics that Pete Hexas has sent to the southern border are not sent there to secure the border.
They're there for something else.
Is that an undercurrent right now in Mexico about the forthcoming kinetic activity?
Because they're going to cut them off.
They call the company.
They're going to cut off the legal access.
They're going to cut off the banking.
They're going to use the SWIFT system.
But President Trump, I believe, is going to also drop the kinetic hammer.
Is there any undercurrent in Mexico City about that, about the kinetic war with the cartels that's on the horizon?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
There it is.
You know, the government of Mexico is being pushed.
And to the corner.
All this started with the threat of a terror and also designating the cartels as terrorists.
And now you're seeing this massive activity at the U.S. border that is also pushing the Mexican government to send National Guard troops into the north border of Mexico to basically combat the organized crime.
We need help.
And it is absolutely, you know, a current fact.
The organized crime, they just recently in Jalisco, sir, they found a massive mass grave on more than 400, you know, decomposed bodies.
That they are actually telling that it was the cartel of the CGNG. It tells you that these people are vicious, these people are terrorists.
And, you know, the Mexican president is willing to work with the Trump administration to do everything that they can to basically eradicate these organized crimes, to eradicate the cartels.
Yesterday, she sent a clear message.
To the Mexican people and also to the United States people to say, we are with you.
We are trying to eradicate and eliminate fentanyl, and we're trying to eradicate and eliminate the trafficking of fentanyl, not only in the country of Mexico, but also into all parts of the world.
So there's a massive collaboration now over here in the country of Mexico, and it's 180 degrees to what can actually happen that is going to be moving forward to eradicate these groups, sir.
steve bannon
Oscar, how can people keep up with your...
We'll have you back on, obviously, tomorrow.
But how do people keep up with your analysis and observations during the day?
unidentified
Oscar Blue Ramirez, sir, on Acts All Around, and also, ultimately, sir, on Real Americans Boise, sir.
Thank you so much for having me.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Stay safe.
I'm going to ask Ezra Cohen to come in, because I kind of want to reset on Intel and everything that's going on geopolitically.
Ezra, let's take it first with the Ukraine.
You know, President Trump making a decision to essentially, you know, downsize or cut off.
He's sharing intelligence for a while.
We understand there are intelligence assets coming back from President Trump's, his grand strategy for the cartels in Mexico.
You also have today the working group meeting in Riyadh.
Zelensky's, you know, wormed his way into there.
Just give us a reset from Ukraine to the Middle East to Mexico.
Where do we sit with all this, sir?
unidentified
Well, first of all, Steve, I mean, on Ukraine, President Trump is doing what you and I have talked about many times before privately, which is he is breaking through a stagnant situation.
I believe he's putting pressure on both sides.
Unfortunately, President Zelensky decided to make that public a couple weeks ago in the Oval Office, but there's pressure being applied on all sides.
There's also pressure being applied on the Europeans, too.
Don't forget, they're a key part of this.
He is breaking through a stagnant situation by completely rearranging the chess pieces on the board so that we can get to peace in Ukraine and then refocus the American defense industrial base and also our military capabilities, both on the Pacific and also into our hemisphere, where we have forces right across the border in Mexico.
It was just talked about in the previous segment that are killing upwards of 100,000 Americans a year.
And so that's all part of the realignment.
And remember, the Chinese are fueling the Russian war machine to keep the war going in Ukraine, not because it helps them in the Pacific directly, but because it drains the American stockpiles of munitions and money that we need to be prepared to counter them in the Pacific.
steve bannon
That's also this Russian rapprochement, and they're doing a working session.
I think Rubio and Steve Witkoff are there in Saudi Arabia, arrived here shortly.
It's also with the Persians.
I mean, talk about the mullah.
The mullah couldn't have been more insulting to President Trump.
President Trump sent him a personal letter from the President of the United States.
And if President Trump sends you a letter, you should take that like a papal bull.
Okay?
This guy dismissed that out of hand.
Well, I haven't gotten anything, and even when Trump said it, I would rip it up, I think, before I read it.
How important is it to get to some conclusion with Persia that doesn't drag us into another Middle East war, either on the land or in association with airstrikes into Persia, sir?
unidentified
Well, look, I mean, what you saw in Syria this past weekend, the horrible massacring of civilians, which, by the way, I mean, anybody that's been looking at this would have predicted this.
steve bannon
Hold it, Ezra.
Now, Ezra, hang on.
I was told, we were told through CNN and MSNBC, but CNN in particular, these are moderate jihadists.
Ezra, tell how the game is played.
I mean, you see the slaughter and the butchery this weekend.
You fought this for almost a decade, particularly in the first term.
You hear this from all these guys.
These are moderate Islamists.
Does that exist?
Does that exist in the world, sir?
unidentified
Look, I hate to say I told you so, but all of this was just tragically predictable.
When Assad fell, I was out there publicly saying, look, we have to be really careful.
This is going to become the next Libya.
There's going to be this kind of jubilation that the dictator of many decades fell, but they're very quickly going to get down to tribal and secular.
The U.S. has to stay out of this because our track record of getting involved in these sorts of conflicts in this part of the world is very, very poor.
So it's tragic what's happening, but I think we can't forget that Iran is a backer of the Alawite tribes that waged the attack this weekend.
And, you know, this sort of instability in Syria only helps Iran, right?
This keeps Israel off balance.
It also distracts the United States from driving towards what really is the key issue is how do we prevent, whether through diplomatic or other means, the Iranians from developing a nuclear weapon.
President Trump has been very clear.
We cannot allow that to happen.
At the same time, Steve, we've got...
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
I'm going to hold you through the break.
I'm going to get your thoughts on this.
Particularly if the Turks are in back of the Sunnis and the Persians are in back of the Shiites, we're going to have another another Iraq on our hands.
One bloodbath after another.
Blood chaos, Jack Posobiec called it on Saturday.
Brought to you by the deep state and the globalists.
Because you know why?
They always have to have another war.
This is the pressure President Trump's under.
As he tries to have everybody initially lay down their weapons, okay?
Then let's work this out.
And then longer term, he wants, even with the show of strength and peace through strength, he does want to beat swords into plowshares.
Because that's one of the ways you're going to get control of out-of-control federal spending.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, Chip Roy's out, and he's been on Fox.
He's got a couple pieces, and we'll get more into the details of the CR. And Chip Roy's saying, hey, we free spending in place.
You know, there's all the benefits toward the kind of advanced President Trump's agenda.
Look, it's not the optimum, but, you know, it's the best of a bad lot, it looks like right now.
As long as you get really a guarantee and a commitment that the doge cuts that have taken place today and been identified, that we don't go through the humiliation of having to pay for them for the entire fiscal year.
The Doge guys have done, I think, in certain areas have done very impressive work.
We have to make sure that we are telling the world that we're going to support that work, and I think that's one of the things that's got to get worked out.
Also, remember, this is the House version.
I think for all the work the House guys have done to try to make this acceptable to the deficit hawks, which the war room prides itself of being, that I believe the Senate's going to come back and try to screw this thing up.
I just don't see the...
You have to get...
You have to break cloture on these types of bills.
That means you need 10, I don't know, not 10, maybe you need 7 or 8 Democrat senators.
I just don't see how you're going to get them all.
I think they are incentivized to shut down President Trump's government.
I think.
And I think you're going to see this popping up.
Maybe I might be wrong in that.
You hear a lot of talk about they want to work with this and kind of move on through this.
See, you know, normally everything they live for is keeping government open because the government spending can continue.
The difference here is President Trump's in charge.
And you see he's having massive victories all over, not for any political party, but for the country, and they clearly want to stop that.
Ezra Cohen, you've warned about this, particularly the Syria situation.
Just real quick, because we're jammed for time, but I've got to have this logic.
Why is it that they think, as bad as these guys are, You know, in Iraq, in Libya, in other places in North Africa, in Syria, they get obsessed with these super bad secular leaders who are bad guys, bad hombres, but it's a tough neighborhood.
And they're obsessed with kind of this concept of the Arab Spring, that if they get rid of them, there are all these Jeffersonian Democrats that are around there.
And this is what Tulsi Gabbard was.
She was almost not confirmed.
And I first interviewed her to be the UN ambassador in the three weeks after we won in 16 against Nikki Haley, and she was brilliant on Syria.
And she told us right there that there's nothing, and we're financing, the American government's financing guys on both sides of the conflict, and they're all radical jihadists that are going to be cutting heads off as soon as they get in power.
This happens every time.
By the way, and then you're playing into both sides of the religious civil war, which is like the Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland decades ago.
You got the Shiites backed by the Persians, and you got the Sunnis backed by both Turkey and Qatar writing checks.
Ezra Cohen, make it make sense to me.
unidentified
Well, I'm not sure there is sense to it, right?
This is the fact that we have...
A liberal elite who are very tied to the US intelligence community intellectually.
Who think that they have this ability to understand everything in the world.
And the fact is, our understanding is very, very poor.
Which is why we shouldn't be getting involved somewhere that we don't understand.
I think that they get tied to these ideas that develop in Davos.
Of like, you know, we can control the world.
And that we have the intelligence apparatus to do that.
And obviously, it's just a complete fantasy.
It also shows a huge amount of hubris.
So I think that that's what's going on there.
I actually don't like to ascribe too much logic to it because I just don't think it exists.
It's just overconfident and hubris.
But one thing I do want to get to, Steve, which we were talking about before we went on the break, was that what you have here is really the collision of Iran on one side, and then on the other side you've got Turkey and Qatar, the financier.
And that's what you're seeing play out in Syria now, are these two...
Massive forces in the Muslim world colliding with each other, and you have minority groups like the Christians that are getting caught in the middle.
But we cannot forget that the Turks have an absolute, and especially Erdogan, have a desire to return to, you know, the days of the Turkish Caliphate.
And they've even talked about them.
And if you look at some of the things they've been saying, they want to go all the way to Jerusalem.
They want to seize Damascus, and then they want to go to Jerusalem.
So this is what...
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on.
They want to reverse World War I with Lawrence of Arabia and Allenby in the Arab Revolt.
That basically had Mecca and Medina for a thousand years.
They're trying to reverse it with the Ottoman Empire, a new caliphate.
Qatar's their underwriter.
And the biggest threat to Israel now is not Persia.
They're caught in a pincer move, but it's going to be Turkey.
And Turkey wants to go all the way to Mecca and Medina.
They want to control the two holy sites.
And folks, if you don't think that's going to be a range war, you are wrong.
And this is happening.
And just to put icing on the cake, Erdogan's a NATO member.
This is part of your alliance, right?
That they could call in, what, NATO chapter topic, you know, item number five, right?
An attack upon turkeys, an attack upon everybody.
This is the mess that Trump is trying to unwind, the Gordian knot, he's trying to unwind in the Middle East.
Ezra, we've got to bounce.
Where do people go?
Your social media is on fire.
We're going to have you back on later in the week to go through more of this, particularly President Trump's efforts.
in Riyadh to get a Russian rapprochement and how Persia in the obvious nuclear program they've got plays into that, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, it's Ezra A. Cohen on Twitter.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
Great work.
Appreciate you, sir.
unidentified
Appreciate it.
steve bannon
Ezra just said ideas that develop in Davos.
Take your number two pencil out and write that down.
Ideas that develop in Davos.
This is why I've called it for a decade, the Party of Davos.
One idea that occurred, I think, what, two years ago?
They brought artificial intelligence out to the commercial world, and it's been a feeding frenzy ever since of capital going into it.
And once capital, as I told you, goes into artificial intelligence, you're not going to control it.
Because now you've got the worst elements of greed and avarice and power aligned with a technology that could be amazing for Americans or for citizens, folks throughout the world, but it also could lead to incredible danger and potentially destruction because I think history shows us every advanced technology that comes on the scene.
Initially gets used for military purposes, right?
Maybe it's not there for peace and prosperity.
Mark Jephtovic, the bomb thrower.
You wrote an article, something we're very focused on, Mark, all the time.
And by the way, I've got two Canadians on War Room in the same day.
God bless you.
One thing we're focusing on, this is why Joe Allen's been our editor of this over, about the singularity for years, is our focus on this concept called the singularity.
You kind of rattled me, because you told me over the weekend and said, hey Steve, I don't know what you're talking about.
I follow this very closely, and I'm telling you, the singularity's already here as far as artificial intelligence goes.
So tell people what the singularity is, why it's a big deal, and why your theory of the case is that we're already there.
mark jeftovic
Hey Steve, great to be back.
The singularity has different definitions for different people.
I look at the Ray Kurzweil definition of it, which is almost like a technological rapture-like moment when Skynet and the Terminator movie.
Everything switches on and everything changes for humanity in that instant.
But what I've been realizing lately comes on the heels of another piece I wrote about.
The speed of change and the phenomena of future shock, you know, from the old Alvin Toffler book, that future shock was accelerating and causing mass formation psychosis throughout humanity.
And part of that article, I said that, in effect, the singularity has already happened because...
What is happening now is we created code that is now creating code.
So now the software is programming software, and in my mind, that is a kind of Rubicon moment.
We may not have gone completely vertical in terms of the graph where hyper-intelligent self-aware technology has infused all aspects of humanity.
What I'm saying is we've at least crossed this event horizon.
Where predictability has kind of gone out the window, and the mantle of technology is in the process of no longer being driven by humans.
It's going to be increasingly driven by technology.
So the code is going to start coding more code than humans can generate.
steve bannon
But this is like the convergence of all this, because we have a broader definition.
It's got advanced chip design, quantum computing.
CRISPR. But part of it's regenerative robotics.
And you're saying, hey, on artificial intelligence, when the code can write code, right, and write code at very advanced stages, and the robots can start to make the robots, that's when you're...
It's over.
At least you've hit something that on this side of it...
One is homo sapien and our ability to control, and the other is that maybe we haven't gotten totally to enhanced homo sapien, but you've certainly lost control of the process because now the actual machines you've built can replicate themselves.
Is that basically the theory?
mark jeftovic
It's basically it, and we can debate, and Joe and I were talking before the show.
It's like, okay, we're nowhere closer.
We're closer than we think because...
We were going through the various markers of what a singularity would look like, and mentally I'm just going check, check, check, check.
But the main point of it is that the technology curve is in the process of going to the code and to the technology away from the humanity.
And so we may be very early in this process.
But I'm looking at the cadence and the tempo of where these LLMs are coming out, how agentic AI has come out fairly quickly on the heels of LLMs.
And this is just iterating faster and faster and faster.
So I think we are in the early part of the inflection point, if not starting to hit that curve.
And we're going to be surprised at how fast that plays.
steve bannon
This is my point.
It's accelerating at an accelerating rate.
Hang on for a second, Mark.
The bomb thrower's with us.
Our own Joe Allen's with us.
The Liz Yor is with us.
Man, what a week.
What a way to start a week.
There are weeks in which decades happen.
And we're in one, folks.
Short break.
back in the warm in a moment here's your host Stephen K. Bannon make sure we're going to have to be at the ramparts probably pretty quickly I I think when the Senate comes back, after the House passes, I don't think the Senate's going to play ball.
And so it's going to be, I anticipate a mini car crash in trying to shut down President Trump's government by the Democrats.
And so this week, eventually we're going to have to get there.
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You're actually working on a project right now for us.
So you're not making as many hits as you normally do, but people should know that Joe is beavering away.
The reason I wanted to do this this morning is that there's all this discussion about the Doge guys and AI and what are they doing with the system.
We're going to get to that later, but I want the predicate about where exactly we are and how advanced AI is.
And my concern, because the bomb thrower of Mark Jetovic doesn't have a reputation...
Of running around with his hair on fire, he's quite adamant about how concerned he is about the acceleration of the accelerating rate of AI developments.
And my concern is that in the weapons labs, international labs, in what the CCP's working on, what the North Koreans are working on, with the Russians, Ukrainian, Romania, wherever you say those labs are, it could be quite concerning what's behind closed doors.
So why is Mark wrong and you write that you don't think we're there towards the singularity yet, at least artificial intelligence aspect of it, sir?
joe allen
Yeah.
Spoke to Mark earlier.
He agreed to argue with me at length in public, so look forward to that.
Tune in.
But until then, if there's one thing that we've tried to instill in the War Room audience, it's nomenclature.
So when we talk about artificial general intelligence or superintelligence or the singularity, everybody has hopefully something like the same idea.
Now, these are all slippery terms.
Talk about that all the time, too.
But what is the singularity?
And it's the idea that technological progress will begin to increase and increase until it hits an inflection point.
And then basically goes vertical with exponential progress.
You can't really see beyond what's going to happen after that curve.
So in that sense, in a purely metaphorical sense, I can feel what the bomb thrower is tossing at us.
It's blowing up in my skull.
But to say that the singularity is already here, I think it stretches any commonly accepted Definition of the singularity.
Let's take Ray Kurzweil.
Very, very simple.
Kurzweil's idea, as it stands right now as he rots before our eyes, is that by 2030 we will have artificial general intelligence, a system that can think better than any individual human on Earth.
And then by 2045, we will have something like superintelligence, smarter than every human being on Earth by orders of magnitude.
And at that point, as Ray Kurzweil puts it, 2045, you've hit the singularity at which point AI is billions or trillions of times smarter than all human beings, that there is no distinction.
Between the human and the machine.
And because of nanobot swarms and holograms and everything else, there's no division between actual and virtual reality.
So, if the singularity is already here...
Nobody's noticed.
But it is...
I do think that everything that Mark points out in his article shows how quickly this is all moving along.
So that two years ago, to talk about agentic AI or reasoning models would have seemed like science fiction.
And now it's happening, including some Chinese knockoffs.
So, you know, the spirit, I agree with.
We are definitely hitting this point of acceleration in which...
It's almost exponential, and in some technologies it is.
But, you know, I would not say the singularity is here.
I'm not even sure the singularity is near.
steve bannon
I'm going to commit, we're going to do a debate and have these two brilliant guys on in some sort of format.
They can give us some give and take.
I can't do it this morning, though.
though.
But Mark, the question I got to you before we punch out this morning, this topic is, have we already lost the ability of a society, a culture, a political process to control what you see right now is the hurtling advances in artificial intelligence, sir?
mark jeftovic
That's a really tough question.
I would love to be able to say that we can put the genie back in the bottle and we can get back out in front of this thing.
A mantra of mine has long been that we live in a largely out-of-control world.
And, you know, the problem with technocracy is it's a desire or an attempt to control the uncontrollable.
Now we add AI and self-generating code and this infinitely, or maybe not infinitely, according to Joe, but like this accelerating acceleration of technology, it's even more out of control.
It's out of control squared.
And I don't know if there is an ability to put that back in the, you know, the genie back in the bottle or to get back out in front of it.
I've always said humanity's superpower was its hyper-adaptability, and that may be the only thing we get to rely on going forward.
And I don't mean putting chips in our head so we can keep up with the code faster.
I mean, just somehow...
Grounding ourselves in the real world so that we can keep up with this thing that is spinning out of control in front of our very eyes.
steve bannon
Mark, where do people get the bomb thrower?
You've got a number of different things you put up during the day.
I want to make sure people are very familiar with your writing and your thinking.
Where do they go?
mark jeftovic
Great.
That's bombthrower.com.
Get on the mailing list.
And Stunt Pope on Twitter.
And I'm bombthrower on Getter and on Noster.
steve bannon
Brother, thank you very much.
Look forward to setting this thing up where you and Joe can work through these problems publicly.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
mark jeftovic
Looking forward to it.
steve bannon
Joe Allen, we'll let you go back to work on the special project you're working on, but how can people follow you, sir?
joe allen
You can find stuff at jobot.xyz, my social media slave chain, at J-O-E-B-O-T. X, Y, Z. And Steve, if the singularity is already here, you may or may not see me.
I may have already passed through the dimensional portal into another realm.
But if not, see you back next time.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
The Joe Allen.
Liz, you're...
Liz, we got, and I really thank you for carving out time to do this.
It was very important, I think, to have you on today.
There's so much going on in the church and so much with this, with what's happening in Vatican regarding Catholics.
But you bring up, and I think LifeSide News has a major piece about a letter that you're working through.
You know, I don't know more devout Catholic than you.
And that not just lives her faith daily, every moment of the day, but actively goes out and does actions in the world predicated upon that faith.
Why then is Liz your, at least on one level, because you're going to get this, why are you attacking the church?
Why are you attacking the formal structure of the church and kind of the economic model of the Catholic Church, ma'am, and really now in a very public way?
That looks like it's going to lead to not just lawsuits, but I think even maybe potential criminal charges at some point in time.
Liz Jor.
liz yore
Well, Steve, by the time Donald Trump took his hand off the Bible, the Catholic bishops of America were criticizing Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, the policy of securing the border.
When, in fact, over 56% of Catholics voted for Donald Trump, over 70% of Americans support his policy of mass deportation and securing the border.
And so, you know, happily, our new Baby Catholic, as he calls himself, J.D. Vance, our wonderful vice president, has really stepped in the void and started taking on the bishops by saying, frankly, the bishops have not been a good partner in common sense immigration.
And he, with the criticism that Francis had leveled against the Trump administration, he basically said, you know, clean up your own act and be much more...
Transparent.
And interestingly, the Biden administration granted Catholic charities and NGOs Over $3 billion in the last four years.
So frankly, this is about the industrial illegal immigration money complex of the bishops, and it's at risk.
And what really concerns me as a Catholic and a supporter of this policy is that within the first 30 days, Steve, and there hasn't been a lot of talk about this, the Catholic bishops are engaging in lawfare, litigation lawfare against the- Trump administration by filing two major lawsuits against their defunding policies in the immigration field.
And we need to really push back on the bishops because the other thing they're doing, which is really, frankly, these are Saul Alinsky tactics.
I think in nearly every single Sunday bulletin in the last few weeks, there has been Education and a long talk about how to avoid immigration, deportation, how to obstruct the Trump administration when they come knocking on your doors.
This is the Catholic bishops, really, you know, in Tom Homan's words, really frustrating and I think impeding the Protection of Americans.
And, you know, the people who have signed this letter demanding that the Trump administration have a forensic audit and a RICO investigation into the Catholic bishops.
And look, since 2009, we're talking about big money.
Catholic charities and related organizations have received $5.2 billion in immigration-related services for the federal government.
And what I want to warn people about, you will hear the whining from the bishops that this is all about the poor and servicing the poor.
Look, the Catholic bishops of the United States have abandoned the poor in the inner city, the American poor, because it doesn't pay.
What they have turned their sights, and we were talking earlier about ideas are developed in Davos.
Well, this idea was developed in Davos, and it was developed in the Vatican with the help of the serial predator, Ted McCarrick.
This is about flooding the United States with terrorists, with people from enemy countries, with Fentanyl, with illegal cartels.
And we believe that the Catholic charities and Catholic organizations are in partnership with Soros, the UN, the Mexican cartels.
And we are four square behind the Trump administration's demand that they become trans.
That these grants are exposed to the light of day.
Did any of this money go to pay off child abuse settlements?
Did any of this money go to the Vatican?
Because, you know, there's a federal law, 18 U.S.C. 653, that prohibits the misuse of any government funds, converting them, loaning them, depositing these funds, except in places where they are authorized by law.
So, you know.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
I'm going to get to the punchline on the other side of our break.
Very powerful.
What does Lizzo say?
The reason that the church and these bishops have not focused on the inner city urban poor, American citizen poor, it doesn't pay.
It's a racket.
A $5.2 billion racket.
The Vice President J.D. Vance and Liz Yor and others are calling them out.
Short break.
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Rand Paul has up.
A tweet, and Rand Paul's a supporter of President Trump.
He's a libertarian.
He's a supporter.
Look, he's not a tariff guy.
Let's have a difference.
I'm quoting, Despite Doge's findings of loony left-wing USAID programs, the Republican spending bill continues to fund the very foreign aid Elon Musk proposes to cut.
The bill continues spending at the inflated pandemic levels and will add $2 trillion to the debt this year.
Count me as a hell no.
That's already got one, and that's an ally, President Trump.
So my point is, folks, we understand what the objective is here.
We're going to have to chop some wood to get there, and this is going to get pretty gnarly.
Even with House-supported this, this is going to be pretty gnarly.
And everything that he said there is gospel truth.
So I think, and I'm not there yet, but, you know, the House leadership that got us into this jam and refuses to deal with it and deal straight with President Trump, I don't know how they stick around.
And I'm talking about, of course, the Speaker.
You know, McCarthy walked the plank over this issue.
Johnson, I think, has been every bit not as terrible as McCarthy, but pretty close, particularly in hiding the football.
We should have been doing this for the last couple of months and not the reconciliation.
Reconciliation should have been a sidebar.
They should have been working behind the scenes on that while they dealt with this.
They didn't, and now we're down to the ticking clock and a forcing function that Democrats are going to use.
They're going to use a lot of leverage against us.
Liz, you're I've got to bounce, but you're going to come back because this one's deep and it's got to happen.
Basically, they've taken five point two billion dollars in a racket.
The Mexican president, who's a left wing populist.
You know, a no fan of Trump.
She's saying yesterday in the speech, hey, let's figure out how to work together.
Yes, it's wrong.
Yes, we're going to stop it in Mexico.
This global compact on migration is terrible.
It's helped destroy Mexico, and we're going to work together.
Yet the Catholic bishops not only took the money, but every week at Mass, when you take the bulletin, they got all this stuff in there about how you avoid working with Tom Homan.
In fact, how you are against the Trump administration.
Am I correct, ma'am?
liz yore
You are, Steve.
This is lawfare against the Trump administration, and it's Alinsky tactics against the Trump administration.
And we better wake up.
And why would you allow Catholic charities and Catholic Church to handle hundreds of thousands of unaccompanied minor children if they're pitiful?
Pitiful 50-year career of covering up child sex abuse.
And now we know 300,000 of them are missing.
So it is time for Catholics to push back on their bishops.
And as J.D. Vance said, they should get back to the business of saving souls and not operating under the direction of George Soros and the U.N. So there's going to be a lot more.
There's going to be rallies tomorrow in front of the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C., and much more is going to be happening in this area.
steve bannon
Well, hold it.
I'm going to have some people back on.
Hopefully, maybe this afternoon, I want to get this rally.
Where's the rally?
Where do people go to get the information?
Because we've got to bounce.
Where do they go now to find out more about this rally?
liz yore
The rally is up at LifeSite News, and also there's a petition at LifeSite News, and you can go and get all the information on my website at yourchildren.com.
steve bannon
Okay, and we'll cover this rally tomorrow.
Liz, I'll talk to you right after the show.
liz yore
Okay, thank you.
steve bannon
Love you, ma'am.
You're a warrior.
You talk about tough as boot leather.
Liz, you're a tough gal.
Mike Lindell, they haven't shut you down now.
People don't understand.
Behind the scenes, I mean, good God.
They hate Trump up here, and they hate Lindell here, and then everybody else is kind of down here.
As much as they hate me, they don't hate me nearly as much as Lindell.
Because, Lindale, you found out how they stole everything.
That's why they hate you so much.
They've got to eliminate you, your company, all of it.
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mike lindell
Yeah, they're a full steam ahead on the attack, Steve.
And why are they still attacking me?
Obviously, they don't want our election platform secure.
They don't want what our president wants.
They want Mike Lindell's voice gone.
And Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the IRS, I mean, they're all in full-fledged attack.
That's all been taken up all the time the last week.
But we're fighting back.
We're fighting back at every level.
I'm working on a lot of things, including...
Tariffs coming in on our online products that go through Sucker Bucks, Facebook and all this, your Chinese companies.
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steve bannon
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Mike, thank you, brother.
We'll have you back on.
Look forward to having you back on.
Keep fighting, Lindell.
We need you, brother.
mike lindell
Thank you.
steve bannon
The President of the United States loves Lindell, I think, above all others because he understands Mike's been fighting this one and they've been coming at it to try to destroy him.
He appreciates that because they tried to destroy him.
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steve bannon
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