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March 10, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4325: Three Prong Approach To Securing American Sovereignty

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steve bannon

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joe scarborough

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jonathan lemire

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viva frei

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jonathan lemire ▲ ● ▼		...between Mr. Bannon and Mr. Musk encapsulates a key tension at the heart of Mr. Trump's Make America Great Again movement.
		It pits those, like Mr. Bannon, who want Mr. Trump to carry out a more fully populist agenda against ultra-wealthy interests, epitomized by Mr. Musk, who occupy key positions in the president's orbit.
		Mr. Trump has made clear he wants to keep both men and their allies within his movement.
		Mr. Bannon's vocal disdain for Mr. Musk has been noticed by the president.
		In mid-February, the president told Mr. Bannon that he wanted him to lay off the attacks on Mr. Musk and for the two men to sit down privately.
		That's according to two people familiar with the comments.
		That meeting has not happened yet.
		It's not clear when or if it will.
		So, Tyler, we know that Bannon, still an outside advisor to the president, they speak occasionally.
		His War Room podcast is listened to by many in the West Wing.
		Seems like he's pulled his punches on Musk.
		He's hit him a couple times, but not the full-throated way that we know Steve Bannon can when he wants to go after someone.
		So tell us a little bit more here about the state of this relationship.
		Do we think that meeting's ever going to happen?
unidentified		Yeah, that's a big question, John, and it's unclear that it will.
		And I think one of the things that's really interesting about this relationship and this fight between the two of them is what it tells us about Donald Trump and the broader Republican Party and the movement and Trump's effort to try to keep both of these sort of opposite poles inside the coalition, inside the tent, and sort of tamp down on these attacks.
		As you noted and read from the piece, these two men have vastly different views.
		And one of them, I think, comes down to sort of the ideological drive of them.
		Steve Bannon has been preaching about populism for many years, has sort of been at the vanguard of that movement to move the Republican Party in that direction.
		Elon Musk is not somebody who was even a Republican a few years ago, definitely not a Trump supporter.
		During the first term, I heard from people that heard directly from Elon Musk, who was very critical.
		Trump's approach on tariffs, on sort of his disdain for the globalization and the global economy that many of Elon Musk's businesses depend on.
		Now we've obviously seen this full transition of Musk into someone that is a full-throated Donald Trump supporter.
		And so it's just interesting to observe this dynamic unfold, particularly against the backdrop of the economics that we're talking about here and how Trump's tariff policy is going to impact billionaires like Elon Musk, who are quite concerned about Not just investment, but the stock market as well, which, as many guests have mentioned, is a huge concern of Donald Trump.
		He ran in 2024 on this economic argument, blaming Joe Biden for inflation, blaming Joe Biden for a whole cost for inflated goods across the board.
		And so, as we see costs go up here in America, it'll be quite interesting to see not just how Donald Trump responds, but how Republican politicians and their voters respond as well.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		I can think of few people less suited to help run the MAGA movement than the two I mentioned, like Elon Musk.
		I mean, the whole populist fight is against globalists, billionaires, multinational corporations, monopolies, which a lot of these tech companies now basically are monopolies.
		And they don't believe in nationalism.
		They believe they are bigger than any nation.
		That they are their own stand-alone nation state.
		So, again, I'm just not sure how these two forces are balanced in the MAGA universe moving forward.
unidentified		Well, look, Joe, that tension, which is embodied by the tension between Elon Musk and Steve Bannon, who have been fighting publicly, and in some cases viciously, now since December, when the first debate about H-1B visas came out, it became clear that Elon Musk when the first debate about H-1B visas came out, it became clear that Elon Musk was like every other person in Silicon Valley who believes deeply in And Steve Bannon, who wants to basically stop all immigration in the United States, they started fighting then.
		The tension has ebbed and flowed in public, but in private, it's been intense.
		And this reporting by Maggie and John Swan that put Elon on his back foot, Bannon immediately seized on that.
		I think this is, in the long run, this is one of the great tensions governing Trump.
		The Trump 2.0 era and also about kind of what the key choices that Trump has to make.
		And I got to say, you know, Elon Musk is an incredibly rich guy, although he's getting less rich by the day.
		The man has lost $180 billion.
		Off of his net worth as the Tesla shares it tanked?
		That's even big money to you, Joe.
		$180 billion in net worth.
		That's some serious business there.
		And as that has started to happen, Bannon, he's very rich.
		He's got control of X. Those are big assets to Donald Trump.
		But I've got to say, how long Elon Musk is going to want to continue to see people attacking?
		Tesla dealerships around the country, lighting Tesla charging stations on fire, painting swastikas on the sides of Tesla dealerships, and seeing the stock price plummet that way, impacting his personal wealth.
		I don't know.
		And the other thing I know is you never count out Steve Bannon in one of these fights because he is the embodiment of the MAGA base.
		And without the MAGA base, there is no Donald Trump.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I don't know if Donald Trump would say that, but yeah, don't count out Steve Bannon in a fight over, you know, what lies at the heart of MAGA. This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified		Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The reason I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified		Mega Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Monday, 10 March, year of Lord 2025.
		President Trump today geopolitically trying to stave off the kinetic part of the Third World War team.
		Team in Riyadh getting ready to sit down with the Russians about this Russian rapprochement.
		Canada last night chose a, or yesterday chose a new leader who stoned down even harder the Mexican president.
		Also yesterday, throwing down hard about President Trump's, it's not just the terrorist program, it's much deeper, and we're going to get into it right now, about what the stakes are here and where we really stand.
		And we're going to address, obviously, this CR, which is going to come to a head, at least on the Republican House side, with a vote tomorrow.
		President Trump, it's three or four...
		Directions or verticals.
		As we said, the main thing he's got to do in the first part of the second term is, number one, one of his priorities, or if you look at the whole three we've talked about, is to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War.
		Because if that continues on with the viciousness in Ukraine, with the viciousness you're seeing in Israel, With side combat coming out of the Houthis in the Red Sea and other places, it's going to spin out of control.
		It is going to spin out of control.
		And we're going to have a situation that's going to be very tough to put back into the bottle.
		And President Trump understands that.
		That's why he's spending so much time with us.
		This is why he has people like, you know, Marco Rubio, I think, has deployed a day to RIA.
		You have Steve Whitcoff, his lead negotiator, who's all over this.
		They're putting their best minds on it, and they're putting their best people on it.
		Number two, it is the three-pronged seal the border, take out the cartels, deport 10 million illegal alien evaders.
		A three-pronged process basically around our southern border.
		That begins to get our sovereignty back and our territorial integrity back and to protect American citizens, particularly Hispanics and African-American working class have been flooded with cheap labor.
		Okay, and you've got Tom Homan.
		You have Stephen Miller.
		Todd Benzman's deploying down there right now to give us a report.
		We understand the striker brigade is, like, headed to El Paso, Texas right now.
		We have reports of CIA assets doing targeting.
		The Mexican president yesterday was pretty adamant about what she thinks the sovereignty of Mexico is.
		But there's a fight that is coming just like in the first part of President Trump's first term and taking down the ISIS caliphate.
		And people forget how brutal that was, how he did it.
		And it was done in six months, what they told us, a generational activity.
		President Trump is going to do this to the Mexican drug and human trafficking cartels, full stop.
		The third leg of that, and maybe the most complicated, is to get us out of this financial crisis that we're in it.
		And there, in a three-fold thing, The threefold part is, and I think this is the one area where the administration, which I think is clicking on all cylinders and just doing a great job, is maybe not messaging to the degree they could message.
		And that is the mess that they were handed.
		Right now, if you look at the business press and the business media and all the questions get asked, everything I have currently, it doesn't have a starting point that's based in reality.
		The best reality of this has been on the show with E.J. and Tony about 10 days ago, and I will replay that in this first in the morning segment because I think we have to have a reset exactly where we are financially and economically, upon which President Trump's policies are going to take place.
		The policies are threefold.
		Number one, it is to have a supply-side tax cut and an organized effort, In the cutting of this massive federal spending, which is driving inflation, to kind of get our growth back and to unleash the animal spirits, right?
		Number two is the deconstruction of the administrative state and massive deregulation, of which the Doge guys are at the forefront right now.
		Number three is this tariff, but it's not just tariffs on tomatoes from Mexico.
		It is a rethinking of the geoeconomic model of the United States of America, to wit, that we're a premium market.
		And if you want access to this market, there's going to be a toll.
		And that toll is going to work to the benefit of the American people.
		Number one, it's going to be used to drive high-value-added manufacturing jobs back here to the United States of America, a reshoring.
		And the reshoring is working, and I don't think being promoted in an enough organized way.
		It's kind of every couple of days announcement.
		It is historic.
		In the first 40 days of President Trump's administration, it's almost a trillion dollars, folks.
		And this is not from private equity funds or the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund or Mossosan with SoftBank, all these guys that kind of come in and out and they may invest in companies and they may not.
		That's all great.
		I'm not a big believer in that type of foreign capital coming to the United States, but it does show a support for President Trump's economy and President Trump's business model for the country.
		But what's really special is when you have Apple, who has built their business around offshoring, saying we're going to reshore to the tune of at least $500 billion.
		Right?
		Advanced manufacturing jobs.
		When you have Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp., the premier, I still believe, even when the premier...
		Advanced chip design in the world say that they're going to put $100 billion over four years around Phoenix, Arizona to really build world-class manufacturing.
		We see Honda and other car companies saying we're coming to Indiana or all these other red states principally.
		I count Michigan now as a red state.
		We're in process of becoming red.
		It's almost, I think it's $700 or $800 billion.
		Point to today in 40 days, and these are people that have made decisions of pivoting here.
		At the same time, with the deconstruction of the administrative state and what Doge is doing, you have to take care of what are the bridge events.
		The show is, we pride ourselves in showing process and critical path.
		How do you get there?
		How did President Trump get to the new golden age of America?
	How do you get to what we call the sunlit uplands?
	It's a grind.
	And a process.
	And you have to be realistic about that process.
	And we have to know exactly kind of where we're going on the journey, even though the journey may have some zigs and zags.
	The CR is clearly a zig.
	That's okay.
	Not the end of the world.
	But we have to have an adult conversation about exactly what it means.
	And more importantly, where it's heading us.
	Because the only thing we're interested in is victory.
	The only thing we're interested in is getting to the sunlit uplands.
	The only thing, this whole effort, is for President Trump to return from a stolen election to restore this republic as one of the three greatest leaders this nation's ever had, along with General Washington and Abraham Lincoln.
	The sunlit uplands are ahead of us.
	But the hard work is also ahead of us.
	All next, in the War Room.
	I want to, if Real America's Voice and my crack production team could do the following, and Grace and Mo, if you get Thomas Massey's...
	Because Thomas Massey, look, Thomas Massey's not going to vote for the CR. He's pretty adamant.
	I do believe that we have to make progress in this, that we have to somehow not shut down this government.
	And, you know, I'm a big believer in shutting down the governments, but President Trump has got so many things, balls he's juggling right now, that are massively important.
	I don't think that, because the Democrats are going to want to use that against him.
	But we have to get back to what we're trying to accomplish and who's trying to accomplish it.
	If you look at the economic...
	Part of this.
	So you got the geopolitics.
	And what President Trump's doing with geopolitics, it's a hemispheric defense.
	It's really America first.
	But it's not America alone, and it's not America coming home, and it's not America isolation.
	It's a quite brilliant logic of the founding generation.
	And particularly Monroe and the people that came out and who are the tip.
	These guys were the fighters.
	In the Revolutionary War.
	Not the field-grade officers like General Washington and others, but people like Hamilton, like Monroe, like John Marshall.
	And they understood that we're not Europe, that we left Europe, and they wanted to leave the old world behind.
	In doing that, they came up with this Monroe Doctrine, this hemispheric defense, and President Trump is reinstating that, first with the Panama Canal, and of course, Drudge's Mac Daddy over the weekend, which was pulled from a Newsweek article, which is quite brilliant, is about the CCP turning the Caribbean into a PLA Navy lake, like Russia tried at the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the Chinese have been very effective on this.
	With embassies and ports and money and all of it.
	It's one of the reasons Trump's going to Panama, to seize the Panama Canal and seal that off and cut off the Chinese Navy from access to the Caribbean.
	All the way to Greenland, right?
	To thrust our defense out into the North Atlantic.
	To cut off the Russian Navy, the submarine forces.
	On the Pacific, same as the three-island chain, to make that, what I call the Pacific Desert.
	Some of my colleagues at the Committee on Present Danger brilliantly say, no, it's the American heartland.
	I'll get more of that later.
	But then you formatically seal the United States of America.
	Maybe even throw up an Iron Dome program.
	This is one of the reasons the Canadians, which, by the way, were a dominion, I think, into 1982. The logic of the 21st century will make it quite clear that some sort of partnership, statehood, or whatever, has a compelling logic to it.
	When you look at the Arctic, because you're going to lose your sovereignty and you're going to lose your territorial integrity from the north.
	President Trump sees this.
	Just like President Trump understands, to stop the chemical warfare attack, the second opium war by the Chinese Communist Party, you have to take out the distributors and he's going to take out the cartels and he's going to do it violently.
	He's going to cut their money off, going to treat them like a terrorist organization.
	He's going to seize assets, but eventually he is going to drop a physical hammer on them to make sure they're eradicated and they don't come back.
	That is if you're not sending those strikers down to El Paso, Texas for a show of force.
	Economically, let's go back to it.
	The tax cut...
	Which is this whole thing of reconciliation.
	And this is one of the reasons they took their off the ball in the CR, which we preached the gospel of this back in December.
	And in January, we had to focus on this.
	So then we wouldn't be in a situation where we're coming up against the clock, a forcing function, right?
	And this time a forcing function for the Democrats to basically fund the rest of this year.
	And what Thomas Massey's saying is correct.
	We have to go for it, unfortunately, I think with the CR, as clean as possible.
	And with the assumption, one big assumption, that the Doge, because this is the reality of it.
	And the New York Times did a really good job of laying out where Doge had done force reductions and cost cutting, okay?
	And it's kind of laid out in pretty much detail, you can see.
	The reality is we are going to approve Biden's budget numbers.
	We are going to have basically a $2 trillion deficit for this fiscal year.
	And we are going to at least temporarily or some interim period actually finance not just future doge cuts where they're finding anomalies, they're finding things either waste, fraud, and abuse, overstaffing, etc.
	But we're going to do the ones they've already found.
	Now that's supposedly going to be taken care of on either one of two.
	It's going to take place in some sort of rescission, maybe in the Senate, who knows, but Rand Paul already laid out a $500 billion package that would come in $100 billion tranches.
	The bottom line is to always remember.
	Secretary-Treasury Besant and the President's joint plan is, A supply-side tax cut that gets growth above 3% to maybe 3.5%, potentially 4%.
	Because in that growth, with the tax structure you even have today, you start to generate more tax revenue.
	You can pay down and not have as big a deficit.
	And the target in the deficit is essentially from 6.5% of GDP to 3.5%.
	They're not saying that you can get and eradicate the deficit immediately.
	Or even, I think, Russ Vogt has a plan to get to a balanced budget in 10 years, and the way you do that is incrementally, and you get to 3.5% in a couple of years, and then you manage down from there.
	That's logical.
	I would clearly like to have it come quicker, and I think it can come quicker, but that is a plan.
	And that's a plan they're working towards.
	Towards that plan, you have to stop this insane...
	Federal spending.
	Now, how do you do that?
	There's two ways.
	Number one, there is certainly waste, fraud, and abuse.
	Is it a trillion dollars that's been reported?
	No, I do not think it's...
	I would love to have it a trillion dollars.
	It would be quite painless to do it that way.
	I'm also an adult that's gone through this budget.
	Is there waste, fraud, and abuse?
	Absolutely.
	Are there things that are popping up people didn't know about?
	Absolutely.
	Are we going to pay for that by the CR, at least temporarily?
	Absolutely.
	That's just the way it falls, folks.
	So embrace it.
	Can it be unwound?
	Absolutely.
	Is it the thing we have to hit first?
	Absolutely.
	But then it's going to come, and it's going to come, and now they're promising us, and this is Johnson.
	Because remember, in the Constitution, it's got to come out of the House.
	Both all the revenue suggestions coming from Jason Smith and his committee, and the cuts.
	And so what Johnson's promising now, here's what you're buying into.
	I just want to make sure everybody understands it.
	That you're buying into a situation where we are doing this on an interim basis as much as people hate it.
	But there are two things going to happen.
	Number one, that the doge cuts that have already been identified in this fiscal year of 25, which ends on September 30th, that they will somehow, on a commitment from the administration, be dealt with.
	Number one.
	Number two, that in these appropriations hearings this summer, and folks, this may strike a raw nerve because you've done this exercise before, that we're going to sit through and they're going to have programmatic cuts because in reality, to actually get this spending under control, I have preached it's got to be programs and billets.
	Billets mean job, you know, organization charts that go away.
	So it's not a matter of the people's performance.
	It doesn't matter if they're good, bad, indifferent.
	They show up to work or they don't show up to work.
	All that's got to be dealt with with the Doge aspects.
	But the real cuts, the significant cuts, the painful cuts, because it's not going to be easy and somebody's going to have to take some political pain.
	The cuts, and this is what I say, and this is why I was so adamant about Elon having to cross the Potomac, because you're not going to have a serious conversation until...
	We have a conversation about the Defense Department, and particularly since President Trump has laid out a hemispheric defense that totally reorganizes the geo-strategy of the United States, the grand strategy, and essentially says the post-war international rules-based order had to spread all over the rim of the Eurasian landmass in a containment strategy of the Soviet Union.
	Now, maybe in the 21st century, particularly with the Russian rapprochement, Maybe we don't have to do it the scale that we had to do it before.
	And therefore, the defense budget can be rejiggered, restructured, and we can pull finally out of CENCOM. Maybe not totally, but not with this obsession.
	And this is why Tucker and Kurt Mills and other very smart people and Bridge Colby, the big fight over Bridge Colby, was to say, hey, maybe we don't get pulled into another Middle East war.
	That we've been at for 20 years.
	And maybe we don't get pulled into a war with Persia.
	A land war.
	Maybe we can do it other ways.
	The Persian head, dictator Mullah, rejected President Trump.
	They say, I haven't gotten a letter.
	I don't want to read a letter.
	Who's Trump?
	Well, he's about to know quite shortly who President Trump is.
	In that geopolitical restructuring.
	And it's not America alone.
	It's not America isolationists.
	It's America smart and America first.
	And President Trump has thought this through to a very deep level.
	And you can see that playing out with all his credit snapping at his heels.
	But the economic part, there you're going to have to thread the needle.
	And it's only going to come the supply sack tax cut.
	It's about getting us growth.
	That gets you growth.
	That kind of, even with the same tax structure you have, starts to generate more revenues, number one.
	Doge, the Waste, Fraud, and Abuse, cuts at least one layer at the top or the easiest that has to be done now.
	The second is the harder appropriations process that you're going to have to get in there and cut.
	And the third...
	is the repurposing and looking at tariffs as an external revenue service that if it can't drive external revenues it brings high value added manufacturing jobs from the greatest companies in the world to the United States of America where they employ people called American citizens in our homeland and generate tax revenue in our homeland.
	That three aspects of it Coupled with the geopolitics is the plan.
	The only question is, how do we execute?
	That will take us to the sunlit uplands.
	How do we execute this?
	And who executes it?
	On next in the war room.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
unidentified		Okay, trust the process.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Have you heard that before?
		History is a process.
		We're living in history.
		You know, the decades in which nothing happens and there are weeks and decades happen.
		That's what you're living right now.
		You're also living in the Chinese curse.
		May you live in interesting times.
		But you, this audience, are...
		An army of the awakened.
		As I've said, in the long run of history, when they think back to this era, like with General Washington and President Lincoln around the Civil War, they're not going to remember Steve Bannon or Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity or Gavin Newsom or Pritzker or Mark Cuban, Elon Musk.
		They're going to remember two things.
		This is going to be the age of Trump, and they're going to remember Trump.
		And they're going to remember MAGA, a populist nationalist movement that kind of came after years simmering malcontent, discontent of what was going on.
		That's what they're going to remember.
		And that is why you're so important in this, in this historical process.
		But in any process, you have statics and dynamics, and you have to force things.
		It's just not going to happen, particularly when you have an established order.
		Like we've allowed this nation to ossify in a series of kind of oligarchic, whether it's the lords of easy money on Wall Street, the corporatists, or the oligarchs in Silicon Valley.
		That's just reality.
		That is what Trump essentially and you have been fighting against.
		Whether that's been represented by Mitch McConnell or Nancy Pelosi or anybody in between.
		And you've seen this now.
		That is why...
		The Fox News and the Murdochs and the Republican Party have been in controlled opposition for decades after decades after decades.
		We didn't get here because there was a fight going on.
		There wasn't a fight.
		It was phony, like pro wrestling.
		And now we're in a fight.
		Because now you're talking about money and power.
		And it's going to be a fight.
		And there's no compromise.
		There's just not.
		There's nothing to compromise about.
		If you compromise, It means you're losing.
		So you can't compromise.
		Compromise is always the easy way, too.
		If we had compromised at any step of the way, we would not be here.
		Well, you can see the sunlit uplands.
		You can see how this thing gets sorted.
		It's going to be massively difficult.
		It's going to take everybody's time and energy.
		We're not going to win them all.
		Hey, we ain't going to win tomorrow when the CR passes.
		That's not a win.
		That's a tactical retreat to get to a better place.
		Well, let's call it what it is.
		Don't put it by saying, oh, these are huge ones.
		No.
		This is because of incompetent and cowardly House leadership.
		It just is.
		And to do what we need to do by September 30th, there's a ton of hard work and a lot of pain that's going to come.
		Just remember, you're not going, inflation is driven by this massive federal spending.
		We're not going to stop that until you stop said federal spending.
		To cut it back dramatically.
		There's two ways to do it.
		Doge.
		And I wish those guys all the luck in the world.
		I've talked about this deconstruction of the administrative state.
		Guys have tried to do it.
		We've been thwarted by the Republican establishment every step of the way.
		Couldn't overcome it.
		This is why it's so important.
		But that's only part of the solution.
		The other is you're going to have to get into those appropriations.
	You're going to have to have huge fights, and we're going to have to make tough calls, and you're going to get tons of criticism in cutting defense, in cutting social programs, in smartly cutting Medicaid.
	Smartly.
	What did President Trump say yesterday, say Thursday, with a scalpel, not an axe.
	And you can do that.
	Some programs you have to take an axe to.
	A hatchet, I think as he called it.
	To get to 6.5% of GDP as deficits, which we're addicted to.
	We're addicted to federal spending.
	Look at the TV. Look at news.
	Look at the papers.
	Look at the protests, the upward.
	We're addicted to federal spending.
	Addicted.
	Needs to be an intervention.
	Interventions are tough.
	A real intervention.
	That programmatically says we're not going to do this anymore.
	It's not that we found waste or fraud or abuse.
	No.
	This part, boom.
	Yes, we found the waste for our abuse.
	We took that.
	But this, we're not going to do that.
	We're not going to do that.
	That's gone.
	Boom.
	Out.
	All the billets associated were gone.
	In the New York Times piece that lists out everything that's been done, the buried lead down there is coming from the Washington Post where President Trump says he intends to cut 30 to 40 percent of the federal government.
	Now, it's ill to find that workforce or programs.
	But hey, even his workforce, come on, baby.
	Let's go.
	Let's roll.
	And then you have to do that in a manner.
	That's serious and not there to humiliate people.
	But to say, hey, we're not going to do this anymore, that is gone.
	And if it needs to be passed through legislation or if the courts need to back us up, we're going to have compelling cases in each of the week.
	We can either win on votes or we can win in the courts to make it permanent.
	They're all over President Trump and there's tariffs.
	The tariffs, you know, the tariffs.
	And I think and I understand for the how...
	Legally, they have to do it with emergencies and it's fentanyl and all that.
	I got it.
	And fentanyl is horrible in the second chemical war.
	But there's something also deeper.
	And that is the economic relationship with our trading partners.
	The Chinese Communist Party being the biggest, and we have to face that.
	The other two being Mexico and Canada.
	Our neighbors here for this, what we call it, hemispheric defense.
	And there are huge political changes going on in those countries, even as we speak.
	And to get to the sunlit uplands, right?
	Particularly with Canada, it's been one of our best allies, and the valor and courage of the Canadian men and women that have served have been unbelievable, and as allies to the United States, and I mean people that really punch way above their weight class.
	They're extraordinary people.
	And it's an extraordinary...
unidentified		Dominion.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let's play, and by the way, they're in an uproar now as Trudeau passes the baton.
		Let's play Canada.
		Then we'll play a cut from Mexico.
		I've got two.
		I've got Viva Fry for Canada and our own Oscar Blue Ramirez will join us from Mexico City.
		Let's go ahead and let it rip.
unidentified		We have made this the greatest country in the world.
		And now...
		And now our neighbors want to take us.
		No way!
		No way!
		There's someone who's trying to do the opposite.
		There's someone who's trying to weaken our economy.
		Donald Trump.
		Donald Trump.
		And Donald Trump...
		As we know, has put, as the Prime Minister just said, unjustified tariffs on what we build, on what we sell, on how we make a living.
		He's attacking Canadian families, workers and businesses, and we cannot let him succeed.
		And we won't.
		Fortunately, the dialogue has prevailed and above all the respect between our nations.
		The Canadian government has rightly retaliated and is rightly retaliated with our own tariffs that will have maximum impact in the United States and minimum impact here in Canada.
		And my government will keep our tariffs on until the Americans show us respect.
		The Americans want our resources, our water, our land, our country.
		Think about it If they succeeded, they would destroy our way of life.
		In America, health care is a big business.
		In Canada, it is a right.
		America is a melting pot.
		Canada is a mosaïque.
		America is not Canada.
		And Canada never, ever will be part of America in any way, shape, or form.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That would be called, folks, a gauntlet.
		I want to bring in Viva Frye, one of the smartest guys I know about many topics, but particularly his beloved Canada.
		Viva, put in perspective, you were lit up on Twitter yesterday about what went on.
		Walk us through where exactly we stand with this, sir.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		I thought I was angry this morning until you put that montage up.
		I mean, it's the most irritating and patronizing.
		The thing is, I know that I'm relatively naive, and I know my own level of ignorance, and you understand people watching Mark Carney don't even understand that they are ignorant in the first place to know that they're being played like a fiddle.
		This is an unelected, anointed, globalist, WEF, Lackey.
		I don't know if I can use the W-H-O-R-E word on your channel, and I'm joking, but people don't even understand this.
		When Trudeau said he was resigning, and everyone rejoiced, and I was one of the ones who rejoiced, because you don't fully appreciate how the rules will come and bite you in the butt, and you thought Trudeau was a scoundrel.
		He's a scoundrel even in his resignation.
		He resigns, and they prorogue Parliament for three months, so we've had no session of Parliament of government in Canada.
		And then they declare a leadership race.
		And in comes Mark Carney, who spent the better part of the last decade living in Europe, serving the interests of England, opposing Brexit.
		He is a WEF globalist whore by the purest of definitions.
		He just walks in and is appointed Prime Minister of Canada because 150,000 registered liberals voted for this guy, or 85% of them voted for this guy.
		And now we've got a Kamala-esque I mean, this man is a man who has three passports.
		His loyalty to Canada is probably third on the list of his registered passports and it's fourth if you include the WEF as an overarching organization.
		Now he's leading Canada into a war with America that they cannot win, that they should have been smarter to avoid, I appreciate people think Trump's tariff war, you know, fentanyl, tighten up your borders, was pretextual.
		If it was pretextual, congratulations, you walked right into the pretext.
		Carney talked about protecting our way of life in Canada.
		He spent the better part of the decade in Europe ignoring the fact that in Canada, healthcare is not a right.
		Death care is the industry.
		This is a country that's been in shambles for a decade.
		And now he's going to come in and seemingly successfully convince a bunch of ignorant buffoons that their woes are Trump's fault and not the Liberals' reign of terror for the last 10 years.
		Sorry.
		Serenity now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Magnificent.
		No, no, magnificent.
		Okay, you hang on right there, magnificent.
		Only Viva Fry can give it with both barrels.
		We've got Oscar Blue Ramirez that is in Mexico City.
		Oscar Blue Ramirez, we've got about 60 seconds.
		I'm going to hold both of you guys through breaks.
		Why are you in Mexico City, brother?
unidentified		We covered the speech on the Mexican president, sir.
		Yesterday, more than 350,000 people were listening to the Mexican president.
		She spoke completely different than what you saw with the Canadian fellow right here.
		She completely said that she has a great relationship now with the Trump administration.
		That is a matter of respect how Trump has been treating her and also that Mexican president towards the Trump administration and that they're fixing things and they're advancing on tackling the trafficking of fentanyl and a lot of things in terms of immigration, Steve, that they're completely against the globalist agenda.
		This is 180 degrees.
		Her speech yesterday was about creating a bilateral relationship on tackling the cartels and, you know, basically making other countries great in Central and South America.
		So the migration will stop and that those migrants and those countries will grow in the internal and economical growth internally, Steve.
		So it was completely different.
		More than 350,000 people listening to the Mexican president's speech.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Right there.
		Hang on, Oscar Blue Ramirez.
		Folks, you see the sunlit uplands?
		You see it up ahead?
		You see it up there?
		It's kind of dim now, but you see it?
		Do you see it?
		That's the Trump effect.
		Short commercial break.
		Back in a moment.
unidentified		We will fight till they're all gone.
		We rejoice when there's no more.
		Let's take down the CCP. Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, there were huge moves in, like, the movement of gold over the weekend.
		I'm going to get Philip Patrick probably this afternoon or tomorrow to talk about it, but in the interim, go to birchgold.com.
		One of the easiest ways you can do it right now is just take your phone out.
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		Then you talk to the Philip Patrick team.
		That's the key, is to get a relationship with Philip Patrick and his team.
		So do it today by going to Birch Gold.
		Also, if you like geopolitics, and to understand how President Trump's trying to save the republic, you have to understand geopolitics.
		We try to put as much out there as possible with you guys, but we've got Jim Rickards, a new contributor for us, and he's one of the best in the world.
		RickardsWarRoom.com.
		You go there, you can get access to Strategic Intelligence.
		It's his newsletter, monthly newsletter, that's quite frankly amazing.
		I've read it for years.
		If you sign up, and you come in through the War Room, he's got this free book, Money in GPT, really Money in Currency and Artificial Intelligence, which will basically scare you, as it kind of should.
		We're going to talk more about artificial intelligence in the next segment.
		Mark Jephtovic from Canada, and we've also got our own Joe Allen.
		We're going to be talking about the advances in artificial intelligence and what's happened off of Naomi's great report she gave us from India on Saturday.
		We were going to try to have her, but couldn't totally work it out.
		Hopefully have her tomorrow.
		Also, this Newsweek article about the Caribbean becoming a Chinese Communist Party lake because of their navy is a wake-up call.
		It's a fascinating piece.
		Also, the rise of the Chinese Communist Party and how aggressive they're being, particularly as we go down the path of the Russian rapprochement, which right now they're having a working meeting in Riyadh, which Zelensky somehow has wormed his way into, I think, a meeting with MBS. More about that later with Ezra Cohen, who's going to join us in the next hour.
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		Oscar Blue Ramirez, hit rewind for one moment.
		I want to hear, because the speech yesterday was shocking vis-a-vis what had been coming out of Mexico before.
		Walk us through what was said and why it was said, sir.
unidentified		A lot of the things that are completely shocking, one of the things she started saying...
		We sent a message to the United States of America.
		We're not your adversaries.
		We're not your enemies.
		We're supposed to be allies and we're neighbors.
		We are working closely with the Trump administration talking about the trafficking of fentanyl.
		Also, she sent a message to the American people saying, we're going to do everything we take, everything we can to decrease the level of trafficking to your country so we can save the lives of the youth of the United States citizens.
		Another statistic that it was shocking also, Steve, since the Trump administration...
		We need to make those countries great so this immigration of necessity will not come and be a trickle effect and a dominant effect to the north.
		Everything that is against the globalist agenda.
		Everything that is against what Biden administration was pushing is an 180 degrees change.
		And also, it was pleasing the audience.
		Everybody was applauding.
		Everybody was supporting her.
		And the message was that we need to create an allegiance and that she has a great relationship with President Trump.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So, Viva Frye, our ally to the North, and people love Canada.
		Why the hard throwdown?
		By Castro's relief here, sir.
viva frei ▲ ● ▼		He had nothing to lose because he was already on his way out.
		So the liberals thrive by creating crises to manage.
		And so their response, playing punch for punch with someone who is ten times their size, or dollar for dollar with an economy that's ten times their size, I mean, it's a losing strategy, but at least it creates a crisis for the liberals to govern.
		And it allows them also to retroactively or blame retroactive problems on Trump.
		People don't seem to really understand this.
		Like, one in four children in Canada live in households with food insecurity.
		It's sort of the same game they played with COVID. Blame COVID for the overwhelming of the hospital system when it's been a decades-old problem.
		Canada has been in dire straits for a long time, but now create this crisis and make people believe it's the result of Trump's tariffs and not liberal policies.
		I see the person who really dropped the ball in how they dealt with this.
		Because they didn't need to deal with it, was Pierre Poilier and the Conservative Party.
		They could have said nothing and been better off than having done what they did, which was jump on this bandwagon of demonizing Trump and making it look like he's coming after Canadian jobs, Canadians.
		Whether or not you think that's what he's doing, you're going to have to negotiate with him.
		You're going to have to discuss.
		You're going to have to make certain concessions because there are objective problems up at the Canadian border.
		You know, really screwed up, dropped the ball in terms of thinking it was popular to pick a fight with Trump in Canada.
		He might be right in the short term.
		In the long term, he's going to have to try to win a majority government in the next federal election.
		So, you know, I say I'm criticizing him.
		Maybe he takes the advice.
		Maybe he doesn't.
		Maybe you think I'm criticizing him because I love him or hate him.
		I ran for the People's Party of Canada.
		My criticism is legit.
		He can still save this by walking back the fight with Trump and say, look, we'll come to the table when it's time.
		And for now, we're just going to try to work on making Canada a better place to live instead of picking fights with people that we cannot win a fight with.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Viva, hang on for one second.
		Viva Frye about his beloved Canada.
		Oscar Blue Ramirez about his beloved Mexico.
		You're hearing it, and you're hearing it straight.
		Amazing change south of the border.
		Why?
		The Trump effect.
		You can see the sunlit uplands.
		It's up past there, right?
		No BS. No happy talk.
		This is what we need to do, and this is how we're going to do it.
		And we would love to have you as our partner in doing that.
		We're going to take a short commercial break.
		The right stuff takes us out.
		It's 90 seconds.
		I've asked Viva and Oscar to stick around.
		Ezra Klein also.
		Massive news coming out of President Trump and the rapprochement with the Russians.
		What Persia thinks about it, what's happening in Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party.

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