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Feb. 19, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4280: Live From Force Multiplier
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bill mcginley
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steve bannon
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ben bergquam
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caroline wren
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
Stephen K. Vance.
No!
No!
Welcome.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday.
unidentified
It's Wednesday.
steve bannon
I knew if we did this live today, we'd get a very rowdy, tip-of-the-sphere crowd here.
So I want to thank you.
For our audience in the War Room, it's Wednesday, 19 February, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
We're here at National Harbor Gaylord, the Gaylord Complex, which essentially hates MAGA.
Let's be honest.
You get stink eye all the way around.
This is our last year here at the Gaylord, so it's CPAC next year.
unidentified
I think they're going to announce, I think it's moving to Texas.
steve bannon
Who would not want to spend late February, early March in Texas?
So, our last year at the Gaylord, we're going to have, we have, for everybody going to watch, are people still coming in, because there's not a lot of people coming in this afternoon or tomorrow, we're going to broadcast.
From a different location.
Today's just set up to have the force multiplier.
Really want to thank everybody showing up early.
We decided to try to start at 9. I've got my co-hosts.
They're going to be in and out.
Can I give it up for Dave Bratt, Congressman Dave Bratt.
Our resident theologian.
And of course Caroline Wren.
Caroline Wren.
I'm really glad, Caroline, I'm so glad you made the CPAC. You know, I haven't seen a lot of you in the last six months.
Caroline's actually been auditioning for Below Decks, the Below Decks series.
But I hope that works out for you.
Great, Caroline.
unidentified
Thanks for coming back to CPAC. Let's give it up for Caroline.
steve bannon
Our other co-host...
I didn't realize.
Eleven years with Elise Stefanik?
Alex de Grasse, the great Alex de Grasse.
It's fascinating.
I went back and looked at the report you gave us last year on the congressional seats.
That's kind of what gave us the house.
We held the house.
unidentified
That was the entire ballgame.
steve bannon
I don't remember.
In force multiplier, in the afternoon, you walked through a detail of what was in play, what had to be done, and it came down to literally the seats of you in North Carolina and the seats in California and New York.
And the fights.
Remember, you guys were...
The reason we have North Carolina and had Tennessee and had Florida and these...
Congressional realignments was because, in Louisiana, it was because of the War of Posse.
So that shows you, once again, the power of it.
unidentified
Yeah, it was a pressure on redistricting.
I mean, it was huge.
And if we didn't flip those seats that we flipped this past cycle, we didn't flip enough, but we flipped what we needed to, we absolutely would have lost the House.
We would have had that, what we feared, right?
That President Trump and everything would have been lost.
I mean, to be honest.
steve bannon
Think of days of thunder.
Think of the last 30 days with Hakeem Jeffries, the Speaker of the House.
unidentified
There would be nothing.
steve bannon
That's what we're here to talk to you about today.
I mean, that's reality.
A question, Alex, I didn't realize this.
Elise Stefanik, you've worked for her for 11 years.
You were there in her first campaign.
She's going to the glamorous United Nations, New York City.
And Alex, you're going back to your grassroots horse.
Why are you not going to the UN and all the glamour?
unidentified
Well, I'm not sure the UN would let me in, but...
I understand that, you know, the fight at hand is really this House, the Senate, we feel great about it.
And Carol, I'm going to get into that, we'll pick up.
But the House is almost the full ballgame.
President Trump's team knows that.
You know, I've been proud to have had a role in leadership.
So sort of what David mentioned, I've been in some of those rooms.
It's very challenging and sort of tough times.
I've learned a lot, but now I'll take what I'll learn.
We've got some news later in a month or so.
We're working on big plans to get everyone involved.
And I look forward to helping in the trenches.
Making sure that we can raise the funds, put the fight out there, and really take the grassroots to the next level to make sure that we can win.
steve bannon
We'll talk about this over the next four days.
Alex is going to go and use his skill set and try to get a platform that, since the lease is going, you're going to get a platform that's more directly tied, directly to the grassroots.
That's not one congressman.
And of course, Bill McGinley.
Bill, for the audience, now that we're nationwide and throughout the world, I want to go back.
I thought that in President Trump's victory, it would come at 5 o'clock in the morning.
It would come at 2 o'clock the next afternoon.
It would come at 5 o'clock on Thursday.
And that they would try to be stealing it in courthouses like they did last time.
What was the difference?
unidentified
Why was it different this time?
steve bannon
Besides, by the way, besides outvoting them, what else took place to make sure that this time we were pretty confident, as confident as we could be, although it's not perfect, it's not paper ballots, it's not game day votes, there's still too many machines, right?
Although, let me say for the record, I'm not a machine guy.
But Mike Lindell, I know you guys are, I know you are.
Mike Lindell's coming this afternoon.
What was the difference in 24 and 20?
bill mcginley
The strategy to turn out the vote early, I think, for the campaign, to bank the vote.
If you remember, a lot of times we talked about in the lead-up to the election, get out there and vote early.
Let us know that you voted, and make sure that you're turning out five to ten of your friends, family members and neighbors, that you're the force multiplier, as the name of this academy is.
That, I think, was one of the biggest differences, but then also the volunteer efforts like you did in terms of the polling places, but also where they count the absentee ballots to make sure that we had...
Eyes, ears, and presence in that room because it's amazing what a deterrent is to have physical bodies in the room where this is happening.
It really does act as a deterrent.
And I also think that there were many opportunities that developed, especially in Pennsylvania.
And I've said this to a lot of people.
I think Bucks County, when we had our MAGA, MAGA was standing in line.
And the Democratic machine was slow-walking the ballot process to make it as painful as possible for MAGA to fill out their ballots, cast them, and put them in.
And we went in and sued to keep those polling places open.
And I think one of the differences, and I don't think the Democrats or the progressive dark money network really thought that we were willing to do that.
But one of the things that we always look for...
How do we make your life better in terms of voting, right?
Every time we have an election, you see how the Democrats are always looking at their voters.
How are we going to keep the polling hours open, even though there's really not a need?
How are we going to delay the vote until something's going to happen?
Bucks County was a real game changer, in my mind, because it put us on the side of it.
steve bannon
It also showed that you guys had fight.
For too long, we've rolled over.
For too long, we haven't been aggressive.
This showed from Watley and the campaign and everybody that, hey, we're going to contest every district, we're going to contest every vote, and that's the way you win.
If they see softness, they'll just run the tables on you.
bill mcginley
That's right.
Yeah, and Scott Pressler did.
I mean, the Pennsylvania team.
Scott Pressler.
Yes, and I want to...
Thank you, Caroline.
I want to make sure that he gets a lot of credit for what he did.
But I want to say this.
There are many opportunities that we have that we have to take advantage of when we can say that we're on the side of angels.
When we are on the side of angels.
And that is what Butch County was.
We dared the Democratic political machine shut down the polling places where you've made it so difficult for MAGA to vote.
And see how that looks.
And the judge agreed right away.
Gave us full relief.
Everything that we asked for.
And we were able to drive our voters through GOTV to get them there so that they could cast their ballots.
steve bannon
Let's spend a minute.
By the way, where's Ben Burquam?
Ben, today's totally interactive.
We're going to be going into the audience.
In fact, Ben, let's pick somebody.
Somebody want to ask a question?
I want to ask a direct question to somebody here.
I'm going to start cold calling people.
Right there.
There we go.
Hold it.
I knew it would be a woman.
Guys, come on.
unidentified
What happened with all the votes that got flipped after the election?
bill mcginley
Which one?
steve bannon
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Ask the question again because we're on TV. I want to make sure they hear it.
unidentified
What happened when all those votes got flipped after the election?
In California?
steve bannon
California, yeah.
There was this whole process of there was like...
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
And as a subset of that, why did it take 30 days?
Sure.
steve bannon
And why is it every time it takes longer, they do better?
unidentified
They win.
steve bannon
They win.
They do better.
unidentified
So I was unfortunately involved in that.
And I remember I came on.
Steve's like, I need the worst case.
I need the best case.
Come on.
You guys were hammering me in the comments.
Like, Alex, we're getting killed in the season.
I said, well, hold it.
steve bannon
It kept getting worse every day.
And the House, there was a moment, correct me if I'm wrong.
There's a moment that the House, I mean, you were confident, but it was hanging in the balance.
unidentified
Yeah, certainly.
steve bannon
And everything depended upon taking the house, right?
unidentified
Yes.
I mean, we hit the worst case, which, you know, was not good, of course.
And, I mean, it's really important because I talk about it on the show.
I mean, the California laws, it's the state laws.
They control this.
The way they have their laws, they have the worst in New York.
It's no rules.
I mean, it's no postmarks.
It's...
Ballots can, I mean, they actually, I mean, of course it's illegal, but they actually can produce ballots after the fact.
There's zero safeguard on it.
I mean, you could say, oh, I forgot to mail it a week later and then go drive it and hand it in.
So it's the worst of the worst.
steve bannon
Hold on a report.
There's no, the ballot does not have to be in a federal post office.
Mark, like before midnight of...
unidentified
I think that the, and I'm not a lawyer, right?
I'm an operative that's been, you know, doing all this, but...
We need a very sustained federal, and I think we will, because I know it's a top concern, because the amount of seats that are controlled, if anyone's from California, I mean, almost the whole ballgame is California and New York, and when you come down to it, that's what decides.
I mean, that's how we ripped the speakership from Nancy Pelosi.
We flipped those seats in California, and we flipped those seats in New York, and that's how we took it away from her.
So when you look at that, and thank you guys.
You know, when you look at that, it's so important.
We need federal action.
I think we will win because there's no way you can't have postmarked.
You can't be in the right ballot.
You don't need the signatures.
They don't verify.
They don't do anything.
They have no auditing of the voting rolls.
They've got illegals everywhere on the roll.
I mean, we have no idea.
And these seats are brutal.
I mean, it's like 9-1, the ballots coming in as you're talking about.
But there is no legal mechanism.
steve bannon
9-1 Democrats.
unidentified
9-1 Democrats.
We're all big time and we can't do it.
California, they did well when we did flip those seats.
They were the first to do their credit, the Republicans there.
They started ballot harvesting legally, you know, doing the early vote.
And that's how it kept us in the game.
But this past time, they knew, and Hakeem's people were all over the ground.
I mean, they flooded us.
We did the best we could, because we don't break the law.
I mean, I had my, at least his entire staff was down there, and we're legally doing what we can to cure ballots, right?
So that's the other thing, is that if a ballot is wrong or there's some type of mistake, they can just go fix it, and that's their rules.
I mean, you've got to play within the rules.
So we did the best we can, but they just had ballots.
steve bannon
Okay, you bring up a sore subject.
I want to get to another sore subject.
How do we, who are believers...
In the rights of states and the believers in federalism and believers that the Electoral College and their 50 individuals and the states run it.
You just said something a second ago that because places like California, you're never going to change if it's like that.
You are implying we need federal legislation?
unidentified
Federal legislation?
steve bannon
That's called a microphone.
bill mcginley
Yeah, federal legislation for federal elections.
I agree.
But here's the thing, Steve.
unidentified
Okay, how do you convince a state's rights to beat it?
bill mcginley
We talked about this all the time in 24, right?
You're going to play by the rules that exist at the time.
Which means if the Democrats are going to try and do it, they're not going to do it if they suddenly believe it's a disadvantage to them.
So flood the zone.
Use their rules.
But when you get into power, correct the rules.
Right?
If we got into power, now's our opportunity to correct the rules and to make election integrity a very important issue after we get through President Trump's agenda through the month of March.
Election integrity in 2025 should be something that is taken up.
steve bannon
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
Thank you.
Thank you.
steve bannon
You guys are...
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I hate when that happens.
Let's keep it up.
No, um...
And by the way, for the audience at home, this is the early morning crowd.
The guys that were out late last night, they're not going to get here until the afternoon, so we get even dicier.
So it's Force Multiplier Academy.
You guys are the tip of the spear.
We have a lot of work to go through today about...
The Days of Thunder supporting President Trump's agenda now, but I want to make sure we keep in perspective what you achieved and most importantly, how you guys achieved it.
And to know that there are people here in Washington D.C. associated with the War Room that are working this problem 24-7, and so you've got access.
To resources.
You know, you're like the Special Forces tip of the spear, but you've got a big logistics chain in the back of you to help.
I want to go to Scott Pressler.
But what Pressler did, and remember, this guy was laughed at for years, right?
He's Johnny Applesey.
He's walking around knocking on guys' windows.
I remember that thing in Gettysburg.
It's that little square.
He's knocking on guys' windows.
I think he's like, some terrorist is coming up going to carjack him.
unidentified
Scott changed the architecture.
steve bannon
Of the electorate.
And that is so important.
We have two big trends helping us.
Number one, the nation's clearly moving south, right?
That's why Texas is now projected to be the most populous state by 2045. I'm not so sure if I'm a Texan, that's a good thing, but I'm saying from Florida to Arizona to Texas, you see the South, what's happening in North Carolina, in South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, there's a shift South.
But also, it shows you if you're active and you do a Scott Pressler, you can change the makeup of the electorate.
Essentially, Scott has made Pennsylvania, when I say the new Ohio, en route.
And he's made New Jersey kind of potentially the new, the New Jersey kind of the new Pennsylvania.
Right.
Caroline, you and DeGrasse, the importance of voter registration and what we have to do, because we're still at the tip of the spear, particularly these young people now are finally awakening through podcasts and other things to see President Trump.
And they like what they see.
His strongest polling comes from people under 39 years old.
caroline wren
Well, Scott Bressler deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom, as far as I'm concerned.
Registring voters in New Jersey this weekend.
So this is why he's so great.
But the Republican Party was essentially a cartel controlled by some consultants in Washington, D.C., a total top-down operation.
And it was 23-year-olds, 24-year-olds who didn't really care about the future of a party, a movement, hated the grassroots.
And that was really how we were structured for a very long time until, I would say, after 2020. And the ban in the war room blew that up, as did the most important moments where people like Scott Pressler decided, I'm not going to wait on some direction for folks in D.C. I'm going to start walking.
I'm going to start walking to door-to-door, put on social media, get others to join me.
It was when Charlie Kirk was in an elevator as an 18 year old and said I'm gonna start my own grassroots movement Got someone to fund it and you cannot overplay what Turning Point USA did what the precinct strategy did What the Warren Posse did what Scott Pessler did is they said I'm not taking direction or waiting for funding anymore From the Republican National Committee or any of these committees in DC They don't understand.
They hate us.
They don't like us and they went and organized themselves and And the precinct strategy, why that was key is they went in.
All of these local GOP groups have been run by the Bush establishment for forever.
They ran against them, they primaried them in their local clubs, they activated there, and we became a A bottom-up party.
And everyone in this room and others, they took control of their own future, of their own school boards.
We have people like Kimberly Fletcher in here who said, I'm not going to wait anymore.
I'm going to organize moms in my community.
That got fire and grassroots around it, and she started a movement across the country.
Kimberly's right back there.
Kimberly, thank you.
The moms for liberty and others.
That's what we have to do.
Organize in your own community.
Within your own groups, within your own demographics, if that's how you choose, and get people activated.
And that's what we want to start doing with the posse even more than what we are doing, is just making this an actual army that will never, ever lose an election again.
unidentified
I just want to give a quick shout-out to Luke Mahoney.
If you guys remember, we had him on the show.
He worked for Scott Presser.
He raised millions of dollars for Scott Presser in early vote action.
We had him on the show when Steve was away.
We did that crazy math equation where we walked through the early vote.
steve bannon
Let's hear something right now.
Let's get...
Scott's heart.
Stand up.
We got TV. Can the cameras...
Can we get...
unidentified
We got CNN. We got all our friends here.
Is Donnie here from CNN? Someone's here.
CNN is in the room?
They were in the room, absolutely.
I don't see them now.
steve bannon
My favorite channel.
unidentified
Maybe my mom will finally see me on TV. But yeah, Scott's hard work made it really easy to raise some money.
steve bannon
We've got to hear you.
unidentified
Scott's hard work made it very easy to raise some money.
He's working day in, day out.
I was just talking to Sidney, who was sitting next to me, about how...
How he's so committed to the cause, and in his hard work, you know, everyone sees it, and they're getting behind him, and it's the grassroots getting behind the grassroots, and that is a true force multiplier.
steve bannon
I mean, Scott at one point was literally going door-to-door himself and just knocking on cars that were waiting for lights.
I mean, he started this at the very basic level, right?
And then how did you guys get it that it metastasized that you actually changed Florida, you changed Pennsylvania, you changed these states, you changed the architecture of the electorate?
Once you've got that, then the grassroots can deliver.
Then it's about get out the vote and voter integrity.
Those are the three pieces.
But changing the electorate, the architecture of it?
It's incredibly hard because it's the hardest.
A lot of people find it boring.
It's just tough.
How did Scott do it?
unidentified
Well, I think Scott goes where Republicans are and registers them to vote.
And as Bill was talking about, when we have a mail-in vote that's been cast, we can take that person off the board, right, when we're trying to get people out to vote.
Well, registering voters is how you put people on the board, and nobody's better at that than Scott is.
Yeah.
alex degrasse
And I mean, look, and what Luke did, because he'll be modest, but what's amazing about Scott is there's really only a few people who get those annoying texts and emails, you know, everyone sending them on the Republican Party.
unidentified
I mean, they weaponized Scott's name, and people responded and donated in massive amounts.
I mean, this thing was millions of dollars of grassroots funding.
Luke played a big role in that, but the reality is it's Scott's name, and the people stood with him.
It's fascinating and amazing to see how someone built that up and then produced a result, because it's so important.
Put our new people on the board.
You get them to vote.
You get them off the board.
That's just a plus one, plus two, plus three.
In the bank.
That's the key.
That's how we win.
I think we'll definitely win New Jersey, too, by the way.
bill mcginley
I think one of the other points that I want to make that we talked about in 2024, there's nothing more powerful than a volunteer army in elections.
unidentified
Yes.
bill mcginley
Right?
There's nothing more powerful.
The Democrats may have a $2 billion...
Dark money infrastructure out there trying to control the media, doing opposition research, faux news sites, doing all of their different tactics and strategies that they're trying to do to cancel people, to silence people, to disincentivize you from voting and try and pump up their turnout.
But there's nothing more powerful than what you guys did in 2024.
You tuned out the noise and you focused on the task at hand, which was a victory for President Trump, and making sure that he had a Republican Congress.
And that was you.
That was people like Scott Pressler and the army that he was developing.
That was a whole approach, Charlie Kirk and everybody else.
And that's what I think people fail to grasp or acknowledge as often as we should.
2024 really was a whole of movement effort.
And everybody was working the way that they should.
steve bannon
Here's one of the lessons.
The lessons are that With Scott Pressler, it starts with one person.
Kimberly, Kim, it starts with one person.
Dan Schultz, the precinct strategy, one person, right?
The Moms for Liberty, one or two people, right?
It starts with you.
These ideas have consequences.
If you have the idea, you have a support network here and basically a nationwide information network that we'll talk over the next couple of days about how we make that more integrated, more active, we drive more messages.
But it starts with human agency.
It starts with one person, Charlie Kirk, in the elevator.
I'm going to start this student thing.
I actually sat in one of Charlie's first presentations to a wealthy donor.
It sucked.
Right?
He was awful.
Right?
And look what he's become today.
By the way, Andrew Breitbart, one of the reasons I learned about media is Andrew Breitbart one time, the first time he did a media hit, he gets all ready, he's doing a media hit, and a guy asked him a follow-on question, and he froze on the radio.
unidentified
And he said later he didn't know the guy was going to ask questions that weren't in the thing.
steve bannon
So Andrew would stay on his basketball court, go back and forth and do radio, talk radio.
Remember blog talk radio?
He would do 100 of their shows a day just doing refs, doing refs.
Charlie did the same thing.
Dan Schultz, I think he worked for 15 years in the precinct strategy before it caught fire in 2021.
Right?
Scott Pressler.
So it comes down to individual human agency.
But just understand, you've got a network in back of you that can help you move the needle.
You're not alone in this.
caroline wren
I was gonna add, one of the reasons, you know, I've watched the show for a while, I went on such a jihad against the RNC and Rana, was that, I was working for them at the time, there was two people that were banned from speaking at the RNC. Scott Pressler and Charlie Kirk.
Why would Ron...
I just remember looking at her and saying, what are you talking about?
steve bannon
Oh, they were banned.
They were banned.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
caroline wren
This is why I went on a g-haw against her and was like, someone has to run against this monster.
This is the word I'm going to use.
Because she was so terrified.
Because it takes her money.
They want money to run their television ads and pay their friends.
And the people like Scott Pressler and Charlie Kirk were such a threat to the establishment, consulting culture of Washington.
We literally had...
They were banned from R&C events.
And so that's where I would just...
Go do this on your own.
steve bannon
And by the way, you ran...
It was Harmie Dillon, right?
caroline wren
Yes.
steve bannon
Who's now at DOJ. She's in charge of...
caroline wren
I didn't know her last night.
She's in charge of the Civil Rights Division.
steve bannon
She's in charge of the Civil Rights Division.
One of the most powerful positions.
caroline wren
And her confirmation hearing is next Wednesday.
steve bannon
If you see the people that have come up through the ranks on the war room and all your grassroots and where they are today, that shows you in the next wave is going to be even more important.
It's all back to you guys, right?
It's really back to you.
caroline wren
Yes.
steve bannon
Yeah, well.
caroline wren
She's now selling crypto coins if you look at her Twitter account.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on, hang on.
We're going to take a...
Okay, Holm, we need you at the Ramparts.
In fact, is Cash's vote tomorrow?
unidentified
It's tomorrow.
steve bannon
It's tomorrow.
Cash, Mattel, FBI Director.
It was six weeks ago, I think.
That they said Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, Bobby Kennedy, Cash Patel are dead in the water, right?
CNN, MSNBC, these guys are never going to get, we're never going to do that because of you, because of the phone calls, because of Bill Blaster, because of Article 3, etc.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
You're back in the war room.
steve bannon
We're live here at Force Multiplier Academy.
I think it's the third time we've done.
Grace Chong, tuck it in right here.
Grace, so the logistics are...
After the live show today, we're going to have a short break and get your lunches.
It's a working lunch back here, and Grace is going to start at about 12.15 with what?
unidentified
Social media, and we'll go through how to be an effective force multiplier, as well as using Bill Blaster.
And if you guys download the new version, we'll see the recent bills.
There's been a lot of changes, and it's all very exciting.
steve bannon
Mouth-breathing imbecile.
unidentified
Yes, yes.
I brought my cat.
steve bannon
The queen of the trolls is going to run.
It's always good.
unidentified
The queen of the...
steve bannon
Grace comes in a little hot on social media.
unidentified
She and Mike Davis, late at night, just lay off it.
steve bannon
Grace, thank you so much.
12.15, Grace is going to have a whole team up here to make sure you guys, make sure all you boomers are more effective on social media.
Let's hear it for Grace Chung.
She keeps the war room going.
Brett?
Caroline, you got something to say, Brett?
dave brat
Yeah, I had a few Liberty folks come up with me at the break, and people always encourage me to bring up the power of the church when we're talking about the whole of the conservative movement.
Yesterday on the show, Steve brought out the importance of policy.
And I never would have thought policy could affect the faith.
But if you see what Obama and Biden have done to this country over the past 12 years, etc.
It has changed the soul of America in a dark, dark direction.
And so the good news is we can reverse all that.
And so now the NGOs are going down.
unidentified
The USAIDs are going down.
dave brat
We're making progress.
Trump brought up the power of faith in his last speech in a powerful new way.
There is room there for us to turn around, right?
The Catholic Church is taking a look at some of its issues.
The Protestant churches are taking a look at it.
And you all need to be in on it.
If we get the church, and I mean not just the Christians, but the Muslims, the Jewish...
The African-American church, and we will own this thing for 50 years.
steve bannon
But hang on, hang on.
By the way, keep your seats, guys, and just raise your hands.
We'll go around.
Because if it gets blocked up over the people, we're not going to be able to see them.
We get more.
As this crowd sobers up, more people are going to show up.
Hang on for a second.
Hang on for a second.
By the way, the Catholic Church announced this morning that they're going to sue.
They're suing, the Catholic Church is suing President Trump for cutting off the money.
On their invasion.
And I say that as a Catholic.
They gotta go.
It's horrible.
But here's the question.
I'm coming right to you in a second, Ben.
Hang on.
Here's the question.
Is there 40 million...
Professed Christians, I mean actual church-going Christians that don't vote in this country?
dave brat
That don't vote, right?
The last election was roughly 70 million to 70 million, right?
I mean, just crudely.
There's 100 million religious people in this country.
Jerry Falwell Sr., going way back, had the moral majority.
He had all the religious groups, the iconic African-American church, the Jewish community.
unidentified
Everybody.
dave brat
I went to Princeton Seminary.
They're a little woke right now.
So we've got to get our Episcopalians and Tucker Carlson and all the Presbyterians back on the right team, right?
So you all need to do that working through the church.
And so let me, I just want to say a little prayer to God on the war room, in front of the world.
And so just bow your heads for 10 seconds.
Dear God, our Father in Heaven, we are so thankful for what you have done, for giving us grace, for giving us a way forward.
Now help us to be the agents of your change as we change this country, save this republic.
Thank you for Steve Bannon and all he's done.
Give power back to the church.
Pray all this in your name.
Amen.
Go get them!
Go get them!
unidentified
I do want to thank Brad.
steve bannon
And I think we've got to invite him to President Trump's next inauguration after he wins in 2028. CNN suck on that, okay?
I'm glad you came.
No, no, because the benediction last time, right, that seven or eight minute benediction is too much.
It's got to be a minute.
God hears you.
God sees your heart.
Caroline Wren.
caroline wren
We are massively under-registered in our churches.
And since we want today to be about things you can go home and do, one of the most fascinating things that I saw is that Charlie Kirk started Turning Point Faith.
And he went around to different pastors and said, how much of your congregation do you think is registered?
Every time they would say, oh, 70% easy.
He would say, please, would you give me a list of your congregation?
I'm not going to share with anyone.
I'm going to run it up against the voter roll and then give it back to you and tell you.
He did this multiple times.
It was 30%, 35% every single time.
He would say, can I pay for a lunch every Sunday until you get to 70%?
And that is something you can take home and go and do.
What people don't realize is that with 501c3s, you can register voters.
You cannot ask people how they're going to vote or do a specific party.
But something you can go home and do is offer to host a lunch every Sunday.
That's a voter registration drive.
Get a few others to get some money together.
Have voter registration forms.
Do that every Sunday until you think that your church is reaching that 70% threshold.
Because I guarantee you they're around 30% and 40%.
Democrats did a very good job of it.
They went around, I think they have a 150% registration rate at African-American churches and inner cities.
And that is how they sort of weaponize that.
And we have to replicate and do that out in rural America and out in your communities.
So that's something to take home and do from this forceful fire academy.
steve bannon
That's a priority.
Ben Burkwam.
ben bergquam
Yeah, so can I just touch on that real quick?
So part of why we won the election was because of what they did on the southern border and the invasion of our southern border.
And the biggest part of that are these NGOs that were behind it.
The United Nations, UNHCR, OIM, Catholic Charities, Lutheran Social Services, Jewish Family Services.
We just got word that Jewish Family Services has no one coming to their facilities in San Diego because of President Trump.
steve bannon
Praise the Lord!
ben bergquam
I'm going to talk about this later, but the biggest thing we can do, we have to infiltrate these organizations.
We have to expose them for what they are, the demons that they are.
steve bannon
And Catholic Charities, I think this morning, just announced they're suing President Trump for cutting them off the fund.
They're saying, hey, we can't make it without money.
Exactly.
ben bergquam
That's right.
Cut it off.
unidentified
All of it.
steve bannon
Cut it off.
You shouldn't take second collection money.
You're definitely not going to get taxpayer money.
ben bergquam
Amen.
steve bannon
Ben, who we got there?
ben bergquam
By the way, I think he's stealing.
Look at this.
Look at this guy.
unidentified
It's Steve Bannon Jr. Steve Bannon Jr. I'm Decoy.
steve bannon
I'm Bill.
unidentified
I'm here from the People's Republic of New York with my wife, Patty.
And my question is to Alex, what's the plan for Elise's seat?
I'm from Saratoga County, so is there a plan?
steve bannon
I didn't see it.
Turn around to the camera.
That's the whole outfit.
unidentified
I'm questioning my wisdom as coming as a Steve Bannon decoy in Washington, D.C. The three pens is a code.
ben bergquam
You should know that.
unidentified
I want you to know I had four pens earlier, and I was corrected before I even got in the door.
Alex, I mean, great to see people in Saratoga County.
We've got Franklin County.
We've got a lot of upstate New York people here, which is really sort of the heart of Trump country, the cradle of the revolution, right, that we're so proud of in upstate New York.
So at least to see, it's going to be all okay.
We've got great candidates.
We're working with President Trump.
They've got a Democrat.
I don't know if you've seen our ads.
I did that ad.
We're burying this guy as a total fool.
Caught him on tape, disparaging local workers, saying he only wants to hire Hispanics, hired illegal immigrants, bailed one out of ICE. Called correctional officers, which are our number one employer, workers without any self-worth, said young children in upstate New York can't think for themselves, don't have good thinking, only wants to hire.
I mean, this stuff is crazy.
So we're going to work on a candidate.
It's better that they have a candidate and we're just burying this person than when we have a candidate.
So the White House, President Trump, Elise, they're all going to get on the same page.
We're going to have a great pro-Trump candidate that will run.
I will be standing back to make sure everything's fine.
I've done six races up there, five races.
So we're not worried about that.
It's all going to be good.
steve bannon
Just the process.
When's the primary and when's the general?
unidentified
So as of now, I mean, yeah, so there was news, right?
Kathy Hochul claims she's using that as a leverage.
We'll see us in court if she tries to play with any of this law, that's for sure.
And when I mean court, I think the Trump DOJ, we're certainly recommending that they look at this stuff because it's absolutely RICO, whatever it's called, RICO, I'm sorry.
There you go.
It's, as of now, 90 days from when she punches out.
And when she punches out will, of course, depend on the House and the vote and President Trump.
So there's a lot of mechanics here.
We just have to be calm.
It's all going to be taken care of.
I'll be there to make sure everything's fine.
I'll move up there in an econ lodge and we'll hammer it back out because I'm down here.
So it's all going to be good.
steve bannon
Is Elisa's first act as UN ambassador is to get us out of the global compact on migration?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Ben, how bad has that been?
You and Oscar Blue Ramirez have dealt with that now for years.
ben bergquam
It is the Trojan horse that has gotten millions of illegals, not just into our country, but into Europe as well.
The jihad you see in Europe is all behind the weaponization of the global compact of migration.
Everything you see coming up.
But it all goes back to the United Nations, UNHCR, OIM. All of that has to be disbanded, taken apart, defunded.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, people think, you know, look, the UN's not always at the forefront.
Do we recommend that Doge, maybe they next stop?
Yes, and they're working on that as well.
steve bannon
We can bring Elise back into the cabinet and give her another power position, right?
But should we not defund the UN? Yes.
And remember, the structure of how this works...
Is that Elise is the ambassador of the United Nations.
She's in New York, where the Security Council is, and all the intense, high-level negotiations go.
But the engine room, where it really takes place, is in Geneva.
We have another ambassador, that's not called an ambassador, but it used to be Bremberg.
You go there, that's where the World Health Organization is.
That's where the education, that's where the Chinese Communist Party has its hooks in all things.
And that's all got to be shut down.
Should we be out?
unidentified
It's a huge intelligence proxy operation, and that's really what I can say.
Like Steve said, it's all communist Chinese.
As I've learned about it, because it wasn't something I focused much on, it's really wild.
So we'll get that done.
I think that will be taken care of, and we'll handle the seat, and everything will be great.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to pivot for a second, and Bill, you're going to talk about deregulation.
Ren, you and Brad have something.
It's celebratory here over the next four days, right?
There's some announcements already.
I think Vice President Vance is going to speak on Friday.
I think it's Friday, right?
Some other big names, you know, Matt Schlapp and Mercedes are putting out more and more big names.
So it's definitely celebratory.
We're going to have some gatherings, etc.
But the key to this, the reason we're doing Force Multiply Academy and getting to the technical part of it, the hard part is just starting right now.
You know, President Trump just came out a few minutes ago.
Steve Scalise just gave an interview.
He supported the House version of the reconciliation.
So it's going to be one big, beautiful bill sometime in July, right?
I know they're saying May.
July, August.
That's going to be the mother of all fights, right?
And realistically, that's going to be a tiny bit like an omnibus.
It just is because they're doing it one fell swoop.
The tax cuts will be in there.
The border security will be in there.
The new border.
So Homan's got to figure out somehow how to bootstrap this because we're at the debt ceiling.
We've got that fight.
We've got the huge fight on the 14th for the continuing resolution and how we refund it.
President Trump's then got all types of legislation that's now going to be putting in through here in back of that.
We have a fight for at least the next year that every week is going to be attractable, right, to get this agenda through because you can see the resistance.
You know, Natalie's going to be here in the next hour to talk about the color revolution, to talk about how they're smartly, they're in court.
They've got, you know, they've got these judges, these federal judges.
They've got the New York City situation, the Manhattan situation.
So everywhere you look...
We're going to have a fight to ram through this agenda to then be able to position ourselves to have an argument in 26, to do all the logistics of that now, voter registration, precinct strategy, all of it, voter integrity, to be ready for the big fight in 26. But that's predicated on what we do now.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
Back in the war room with the Force Multiply Academy.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
steve bannon
And thank you for coming early, Dave.
We're doing the, for the folks at home, we're doing, this is not what we're going to broadcast over the next couple of days.
We actually have another location at CPAC, and I have to be 100% upfront on this, okay?
You know, for years and years, the War Room Posse came when we were on Media Row, right outside, and then they gave us a special place where everybody comes in.
The complaints.
From inside the room and then from the hotel.
So, essentially, I'd like to say that we worked through with Rob Sigg and Parker Sigg, a great team of Real America's Voice that set this up, that we actually got a great venue, but we were essentially banned, right?
Because of you, because you're too loud.
So they gave us a choice.
We could either do noise abatement.
Or we could get another space.
It's down there near Megyn Kelly where everybody's going to do podcasts.
I said, I came over here last week with our production team and I said, we'll take this space downstairs because I know how you guys get rowdy and you want to get rowdy every day.
So we're going to be doing four hours of broadcast every day from another location.
You guys will love it.
It's going to be intense.
We're here to both celebrate and to focus on the year ahead.
And I really want to thank Harry and the Real America's Voice team for throwing this up overnight so we can do this.
Last year we did the shows.
We did the shows at the Worm and then came here and said, hey, I think we'll get a smattering of people early.
And we did.
It was great for the super hardcores right here that came out and everybody.
So I want to spend the next two segments going through the work we have ahead to give these folks a heads up.
Now you're going to hear speeches.
You're going to have breakout sessions in CPAC. We're going to be doing another thing to talk about what's ahead.
The first 30 days of Days of Thunder have been amazing, correct?
Every day is like Christmas Day.
Let me start with this.
So, McGinley, last night, the lead story on Daily Mail.
If you go to my getter, you'll see it.
President Trump signed an executive order yesterday that's something we have talked about and worked on for years.
He basically said the administrative state, the alphabet agencies, make it clear.
They report to the president of the United States.
This is that theory of the unitary executive right now.
And this is going to, it's caused their heads already blowing up.
They're saying it's a power grab.
He's a dictator.
What happened here and why is it important for us to force this issue through?
bill mcginley
I think it's one of the most significant EOs that the president has signed, because one of the things that the administrative state has tried to do is try to rely on their status as an independent agency to kind of go their own way, even if it's contrary to the president of the United States' agenda.
And I think with that executive order, vesting OMB and OIRA, which is the component of OMB that reviews regulations, etc., by making sure that they understand that they're pulled underneath that to follow the will of the American people through their elected president to set the tone, to set the agenda, to set the personnel in the executive branch.
I think it's one of the most consequential things that the president has done.
And so I think it's going to rain in a lot of these, and I think there will be resistance, and that's okay.
Because one of the things that we're seeing is the deep state, their dark money allies, their dark money overlords, and everybody else is terrified.
Of number one, the transparency that's coming.
And number two, the fact that President Trump is exerting control over the Article 2 departments and agencies.
steve bannon
So this is an Article 2 issue.
This is a constitutional issue.
But when we say the alphabet agencies, the administrative state, not only is he reinforcing that the cabinet secretaries report to him.
And specifically, remember, he's chief executive officer by the Constitution of the United States of America.
Chief executive.
And has full executive authority.
Okay?
They report to him.
Number two is that he is the Commander-in-Chief of the Uniform Armed Services, and that means the Pentagon reports directly to him and people in the Pentagon, right?
Number three, he's the Chief Magistrate and the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the country, and that means the Department of Justice and the FBI report to the President of the United States.
And Watergate is not Bob Woodward.
It's not like you think happened.
What happened was exactly what they tried to do to Trump, President Trump, in 19. It was a radical judge, Judge Sirica, over at D.C. Federal Court, working with House staff.
Working with the Justice Department, radical things.
This was a judiciary coup d'etat that took Nixon out, right?
And they've tried to do it again.
This is why ever since then they've hermetically sealed the Justice Department and the FBI away from him.
That's why this fight...
Of the unitary executive, it's also to tell guys like Brennan and the CIA, hey, you know, the CIA reports to the president of the United States.
It's not your own independent agency, and your background checks at the FBI are not going to sit there and knock people out.
The deep state wants control.
Now, in addition, the administrative state, the alphabet agencies that have so metastasized, the SEC, the Federal Trade Commission, the SEC, NIH, and all of Fauci and Collins, that whole apparatus, right?
They have felt for years that they're totally independent entities, and they really kind of quasi, they report to themselves, they go to Congress for funding.
But I remember in 16, in the transition, they didn't want to really hear Peter Thiel and Blake Masters had this whole idea of kind of doing a doge thing at the time.
They were just blown off, right, by the administrative state of those.
And this executive order last night...
Donald John Trump is very clear.
I'm the chief executive officer of the United States government as the president of the United States.
You report to the office of the president.
You report to the president.
Bill McKinley, is that essentially where we are?
bill mcginley
Yes, that is exactly where we are.
And one of the things to really remember here is one of the reasons why these independent agencies want to claim their independence is because they want to substitute their judgment, their agenda.
For that of the president of the United States.
The people have elected Donald John Trump to be the 47th president of the United States.
Over the last four years, we have seen what happens when the administrative state is allowed to run amok, has no leadership, and the leadership that comes, comes from an unidentified, unelected staff that controls a president who was never in control.
...of the organs of government.
Now, one of the things for history, one of the things that we need to consider is that we are in a historical moment with the election of Donald John Trump as the 47th president.
It's been a long time since anybody has actually stepped back and looked at all of the departments and agencies and said, is this the way that the executive branch should function?
The last time that happened was Jimmy Carter with the presidents, with the Democrats...
After the Watergate issue.
And I would say that the Biden presidency rises to the level of a question, is this the best way to serve the American people?
steve bannon
We'll get into the question.
We're going to take a short commercial break and start the second hour.
We're getting into the question of authorization.
Remember, the way these agencies are set up, they're authorized in five-year cycles.
I think 80% of them have not been reauthorized, right?
Only the Defense Department.
The Defense Department makes sure.
The defense authorization bills every year.
They want to make sure.
bill mcginley
And there's many that are holdovers that have gone beyond their terms.
steve bannon
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