Feb. 19, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| The head of the criminal division at the U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, D.C. That person oversees criminal cases in the nation's capital has resigned. | ||
| Her name is Denise Chung. | ||
| She has been in that office since 2000. She departed abruptly after interim U.S. Attorney Ed Martin asked for her resignation when she refused to send an order to a bank to freeze assets. | ||
| She believed there was not enough evidence to do that. | ||
| Chung praised her colleagues in her resignation letter this morning for, quote, following the facts and the law and complying with our moral, ethical, and legal obligations. | ||
| The need to focus on that exact mission, following the facts and the law, guided by ethical obligations, is the subject of a letter from hundreds of former federal prosecutors, including former special counsel Jack Smith. | ||
| They write this, quote, as prosecutors, we were rightly prohibited from making criminal charging decisions based on someone's political association, activities or beliefs or because of our personal feelings about them. | ||
| Against this backdrop, we have watched with alarm as these values have been tested by recent actions of the department's leadership. | ||
| Some of you have been ordered to make charging decisions based expressly on considerations other than the facts and the law, including to serve solely political purposes. | ||
| Several of you have resigned. | ||
| And others are wondering what will happen to the department we served and revere. | ||
| To all of you, we communicate this. | ||
| We salute and admire the courage many of you have already exhibited, and that will guide all of you as you continue to serve the interests of justice. | ||
| You have responded to ethical challenges of a type no public servant should ever be forced to confront with principle and conviction. | ||
| In the finest traditions of the Department of Justice. | ||
| On the reporting, do we know whose asset she was asked to freeze that she refused to freeze? | ||
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Yeah, three sources tell NBC News this had to do with grants that were put out during the Biden administration involving the environment through the Environmental Protection Agency. | |
| And so, but what you're talking about ultimately here is the government... | ||
| Ordering, ordering is the key word here, a bank to freeze assets that are no longer in the possession of the federal government. | ||
| And in order to meet that threshold, there is a line that you would have to meet, right? | ||
| And so she was not willing. | ||
| She said that the evidence did not support writing a letter to the bank. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 18 February. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 18 February, year of 2022. You're in the war room. | ||
| We are packed tonight. | ||
| Julie Kelly, of course, is resignations. | ||
| In the D.C. equivalent of the Southern District of New York, the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office, there's others. | ||
| Do we have the clip on the 200 from DHS? Let's go ahead and play that. | ||
| Also, DHS, things are happening besides DOGE. DOGE is out there, and they're identifying, I guess, cuts, etc. | ||
| We need to now... | ||
| We need to bring the Doge cuts and find out what is real and what is Doge, because we're down now to the hard stuff leading up to the 14th of March. | ||
| Dave Brat joins us. | ||
| We're going to go through some numbers, but I want to play this. | ||
| There's two things. | ||
| You have Doge, then you have President Trump's own administration, the landing teams, the beachhead teams. | ||
| Major news coming out of the Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play it. | ||
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Hundreds of high-level employees at the Department of Homeland Security this week. | |
| That's according to three sources familiar with the matter. | ||
| The firings come on top of hundreds more general cuts that began at DHS last week. | ||
| NBC Homeland Security correspondent Julia Ainsley has this exclusive reporting for us. | ||
| Julia, this is the agency that includes ICE, which we know is very important to President Trump's immigration goals. | ||
| So what's the goal of these cuts? | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't seem like it would make sense, Allie. | ||
| But in this case, they are really trying to take a scalpel to the agency and take out a lot of senior leaders, people who, this is Washington speak, but it's called the Senior Executive Service. | ||
| Those are people who are very high level and they are usually in charge of things like policy and strategy. | ||
| We understand these cuts can be made at ICE, CBP, FEMA, CISA. All across DHS. And they're people who are being taken out because not because Doge thinks that they are expendable and not necessary, but they're people that Trump's landing team, the people who arrived the day of his inauguration, think are standing in their way of their policy goals. | ||
| Sometimes these could be people who aren't necessarily fulfilling what they've been told to do or aren't telling their subordinates to carry it out. | ||
| It also could be people who just aren't seen as loyal to Trump and they think that maybe they won't be. | ||
| Obviously, there's a lot of pushback internally. | ||
| I've spoken to some former Biden administration officials who say that to get rid of that number of people at those high levels will really be devastating to the department just in how they carry out their day-to-day and exactly how people are supposed to report to their bosses. | ||
| But those who are working on these decisions now say that they think the pain in the short term is worth the gain in the long term when they have everyone in those roles who they think Okay, this is very important. | ||
| Dave Brett joins us. | ||
| What you're seeing there, so there's two things going on. | ||
| You have Doge. | ||
| You're sending kind of these strike teams into these various parts of the bureaucracy. | ||
| And what they're doing is that they're coming up with – they'd say in some audits. | ||
| Maybe it's not a full audit. | ||
| They're finding out where the cash is going. | ||
| They're coming back and making some recommendations. | ||
| People are being laid off. | ||
| We don't know totally at what level. | ||
| There's also some controversy. | ||
| For instance, they put up – they had an $8 billion savings turn. | ||
| It was $8 million. | ||
| But that stuff is going to happen. | ||
| So they're going – I think they've listed on their site – $80 billion so far in their first month. | ||
| But it's not, it hasn't been verified by the cabinet secretaries there, President Trump's cabinet secretaries. | ||
| So we're getting to Doge in a minute. | ||
| The key thing is also Doge, I believe, is going to help us with the actually programmatically what we're going to take down. | ||
| And we need to do that. | ||
| We need to have some high loans after the 14th of March. | ||
| However, what happened today is different and very important. | ||
| President Trump's landing team, these are the people of the, remember, the 3,000 that actually go in and hit the deck place running without Senate confirmation. | ||
| They've been doing analysis and reports. | ||
| They've come back on DHS and said, hey, there's a couple of hundred, and senior executive service is like the senior most people. | ||
| I think they go SES 1 to 4, and they're above the GS 12 or 13 grade. | ||
| These are the senior people. | ||
| Remember, we tell you there's 2.5 million. | ||
| Bureaucrats. | ||
| There's another five million contractors. | ||
| These are people at the senior levels. | ||
| And Trump's landing team is coming back and saying, hey, they either don't support your policies, they're too lazy, and or they're going to be what Natalie Winters calls embeds. | ||
| Therefore, they go and they blew out hundreds of them today. | ||
| This has rattled the city actually more than Doge because these are people, this is the administrative and deep state. | ||
| These are the guys eating at the best restaurants. | ||
| These are the men and women that are bringing down $200,000 a year plus expenses. | ||
| So this city is rattled because they know that Trump has got a team of his own inside. | ||
| We say landing team. | ||
| That's the DHS. And let's be blunt. | ||
| DHS is where, you know, that's all the deportations, the security of the border, all that. | ||
| Dave Brat, when you send a message that your team comes up and it comes up with a couple hundred names and you're gone, D.C., this is where real estate prices start to drop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think what you just said, you put your finger on it. | ||
| This piece, along with Doge, is kind of complementary, right? | ||
| So they reinforce each other. | ||
| And then the shocker is that the Republican House and Senate... | ||
| The oversight has been derelict for the past couple decades. | ||
| The Democrats do this regularly, right? | ||
| They take yards on the field. | ||
| This is nothing new for them. | ||
| They own the city. | ||
| They own every position. | ||
| They own every agency. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| If Doge is correct in what they're saying and putting up... | ||
| This goes to the thing of where has the House, not just oversight, but the committees themselves. | ||
| Particularly, now listen, we know that Eli Crane and MTG and Boebert and Matt Gaetz have fought USAID for years, made presentations. | ||
| But I don't think anybody actually got into the detail of what they've done to suppress information in this country. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| Did they just go along? | ||
| Not those guys, but the people, because we would sit here in the middle of the night and see them outvoted at the subcommittee level all the time. | ||
| Is that the Republican establishment being controlled opposition? | ||
| The Democrats know what's going on and just move the ball downfield? | ||
| Yeah, well, and we've said it on the show over and over and over. | ||
| The Speaker runs everything. | ||
| So the rest of the conference has been conditioned over the past few decades. | ||
| Just either you obey or you don't get to be on the major committees and you won't get any fundraising donations or whatever. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy, that was the issue, right, with Kevin. | ||
| And so enough people had heartache over him given the Pelosi $7 trillion budget. | ||
| That right there tells you everything you need to know, right? | ||
| When Kevin McCarthy goes and delivers Pelosi's $7 trillion woke and weaponized budget after Russ Vogt goes line by line by line methodically, and this is what hurts our brain, right? | ||
| 1.7 trillion cuts he had with woke and weaponized policy. | ||
| And so our folks, the fundamental problem is Mike Johnson is in a tough spot because he only has a seat or two, but they're worried about that, right? | ||
| They don't want to lose. | ||
| And if any of these members takes a tough vote and does real oversight and calls attention to this, anything that, where the New York Times and Washington Post dumps on you, and we got, I mean, my term went back to Charlottesville, et cetera, et cetera, right? | ||
| It doesn't matter if it's all false. | ||
| It works. | ||
| In the short run, it works for a year or two. | ||
| And our team until right now, right? | ||
| Trump's up there just leading like no one can comprehend. | ||
| All the business guys back home and around the country too. | ||
| The CEOs, they're not all just pro-mega, pro-Trump, but they're all saying, I'm so happy with what he's doing. | ||
| I mean, it's all over the place. | ||
| Every city I go to. | ||
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What are they happy with? | |
| The gridlock, they can just feel the ice-breaking freedom to speak again. | ||
| Leadership, a man stepping into something and making, not like Biden, who's home, who's making decisions. | ||
| The international peace is huge. | ||
| It didn't make any sense. | ||
| Common sense, that's a big theme. | ||
| You're saying shutting down the war in Ukraine, dealing with the Russians today. | ||
| We're going to bring peace. | ||
| The Panama Canal to Greenland, secure the United States. | ||
| The business community kind of gets the logic here. | ||
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Right. | |
| Oh, they get all the connection of the dots. | ||
| The problem is the business community might be opposed to some of it, like the border invasion piece, the cheap labor. | ||
| They're addicted to that, and we need them to step up for the sake of the country. | ||
| I got some charts later on in the show, but the wheels come off, as far as labor goes, about 1950, 1960. And I think the war room, everybody knows those dates, right? | ||
| Something started happening. | ||
| What do you mean the wheels? | ||
| Well, just culturally, right? | ||
| Church attendance starts going down. | ||
| Public education. | ||
| Got out of the schools. | ||
| No ethics being taught. | ||
| The liberal ascendancy. | ||
| You mean the 1960s, not in the 1950s. | ||
| Yeah, 1960s. | ||
| You said 50s. | ||
| I'm just trying to get you precise, Professor. | ||
| Some of the data, you'll see. | ||
| Some of the data kicks in. | ||
| Post-Kennedy assassination. | ||
| The country seemed to start to spin out of control as a traumatic event. | ||
| And if we get all the release, and we should get the release immediately of all the files, you never know. | ||
| Maybe you find the deep state had a hand in it. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| I mean, my belief is they did, but you see the country start to come apart at that time. | ||
| Does the data back that up, Professor? | ||
| Yeah, and some of it might just be, I mean, it's this post-World War II liberal Bretton Woods international order. | ||
| And so FDRs run everything. | ||
| And the 50s is kind of a great decade. | ||
| But the psyche is shocked, right? | ||
| Human nature with Hitler. | ||
| This will never happen again with our Jewish brothers and sisters. | ||
| And so there's a shock there where the Jewish community questions God. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And then in the U.S., it takes too long to dig into that. | ||
| But the philosophical project that came out of that kind of went along with the Enlightenment, not with the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| It went along with, let's just do science, no more of this metaphysics, no more of this God talk. | ||
| That's what gets everyone impassioned. | ||
| And we've given up all of our loves, the three loves, the love of country, the love of family, the love of church and religion, the love of God. | ||
| And when you give up your loves, there's a detachment. | ||
| And so that forms the current period we're in with the meaninglessness and the aberrations you see on sexuality. | ||
| I think we're covering it at 6 o'clock. | ||
| Yes, for the transgenders. | ||
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| Also, other experts like Brandon Showalter and others. | ||
| There's something going on. | ||
| They've got a cult of this transgender cult that's murdering people. | ||
| We're going to get to all of that. | ||
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| Bank of England can't cross a trade. | ||
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| Your charts. | ||
| Got a lot going on. | ||
| Got a lot legal. | ||
| Julie Kelly's going to join us. | ||
| We got Mike Davis in the second hour in the situation in Nashville and around the country the other hour, but I got to talk economics. | ||
| And particularly, we got to get into the budget cuts, DOGE, what DOGE is bringing to the table, which I hope and I think could be significant. | ||
| And man, we need it more than ever. | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| Yeah, well, this morning we started getting into it, supporting our good friend Peter Navarro on trade and tariffs, and the Wall Street Journal keeps writing just little pithy hit pieces. | ||
| Not even, it's just political hit pieces. | ||
| It's not even a trade debate. | ||
| But the other day I was on the local news with our Senator Tim Kaine, Senator Mark Warner, and they, oh, the prices are going to go up, the prices are going to go up. | ||
| And then I came out. | ||
| Luckily, they timed it. | ||
| I said, yeah, well, that's all neat. | ||
| There might be a couple of little dislocations. | ||
| But ask the average American how it's working for them. | ||
| How are the jobs numbers going? | ||
| How are the wages going? | ||
| How's the productivity going over the past 70 years for the American worker? | ||
| And the answer is terrible. | ||
| And so I just want to put up a few charts, right, just to show. | ||
| Here's the long-term trajectory. | ||
| Denver, if you want to put up the first chart. | ||
| This goes back to 1840. And if you look at that chart, there's a light blue line going straight up. | ||
| That's the growth of the services, the composition of the labor that's devoted to services. | ||
| Then the black line is industry, kind of manufacturing industry. | ||
| It's labeled. | ||
| It's going up until about 1950. And then you see a black line going down until the current point in time. | ||
| Current context, Denver right there, perfect. | ||
| That one shows at 2000, there's a distinct downturn. | ||
| That you can almost just summarize in one word, China, right? | ||
| So there's U.S. manufacturing jobs rapidly declining since 2000. And then you got to get into... | ||
| Why is this? | ||
| What's the story? | ||
| What's the narrative? | ||
| How are you framing this story? | ||
| That makes all the difference. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal wants to frame it a certain way. | ||
| The cheap labor crowd wants to frame it another way. | ||
| The War Room gives you the full spectrum explanation of everything so you can make up your own minds. | ||
| Here's Brookings. | ||
| So their explanation is don't worry about these people. | ||
| Don't worry about the American citizens. | ||
| Don't worry about American citizens first. | ||
| Look at that chart. | ||
| The employment, of course, is going down. | ||
| Those are just the plebs. | ||
| Those are just you, the people at home. | ||
| Who cares about you? | ||
| What we care about is real output on the next chart, Denver. | ||
| You can see the dichotomy between real output going up on that chart right there and employment jobs going down. | ||
| You can't cheat on the jobs, although they tried over the last CBO. We're going to get into the labor data on the final chart. | ||
| They've been lying and cheating and overstating the job creation. | ||
| But there's their story. | ||
| Now, let me explain to you a little bit. | ||
| As to why I said this morning that the left is so clever. | ||
| They know how to own the agencies. | ||
| They know how to redefine terms. | ||
| If you listen to Mike Benz, they have redefined tweets as mini cyber events so they can regulate them and so they can censor you. | ||
| They have changed the definition of democracy from we the people to the agencies and institutions required to have a democracy so that if any white males attack the mainstream media... | ||
| You're a racist and you go to jail. | ||
| This is nasty. | ||
| They're very smart on the left, but it is so nasty. | ||
| And so here's my little contribution. | ||
| I mentioned this earlier in the show. | ||
| The definition of manufacturing has evolved. | ||
| Whenever you hear that word, pay attention because they're making up stuff. | ||
| The definition of manufacturing has evolved over time to include more than just physical transformation of materials. | ||
| Now it also includes services. | ||
| So manufacturing is services, which makes no sense unless you want to jack up that number that Brookings just jacked up under manufacturing, having that going up instead of down. | ||
| Capital investment is considered part of manufacturing. | ||
| That's the good thing. | ||
| That's what we need to grow. | ||
| Real capital investment, even that definition has changed. | ||
| All the green stuff counts in there. | ||
| And yes, green investment counts as part of U.S. manufacturing. | ||
| If you just Google it, artificial intelligence, all the U.S. job, get these. | ||
| Everyone ought to copy these while they're still up on the websites because they're so embarrassing to the left. | ||
| Green investment, it's a key driver of job creation and a more sustainable economy. | ||
| This is the language we all suffered under, along with COVID and all the other language. | ||
| How is green investment part of U.S. manufacturing? | ||
| You might ask yourself. | ||
| One answer, tax credits. | ||
| So right off the bat, you see the economy is not making up its mind. | ||
| The government sector is. | ||
| It's a fealty test. | ||
| Either you bow before the green energy czars, going back to Al Gore, and admit in public, you take a knee, I'm with you. | ||
| It's a political test. | ||
| And they're talking about totalitarian regimes on the conservative side after this establishment for the past decade. | ||
| Bottom line, here's the evidence that is probably most important. | ||
| Next chart, Denver. | ||
| List of countries by manufacturing output. | ||
| The United States is still quite a bit bigger than China. | ||
| It's way bigger in GDP per capita. | ||
| But here's China with $5.5 trillion in manufacturing and the United States of America at $2.5 trillion in manufacturing. | ||
| So China's been growing at 10%. | ||
| On this show, we've gone over and over and over, right? | ||
| The Nobel Prize-winning growth model, right? | ||
| The solo model. | ||
| Capital is the number one growth determinant. | ||
| China's got it. | ||
| Ours is plateauing. | ||
| And we're not putting capital in the hands of the American people. | ||
| Let's just close with the U.S. jobs report and jobs numbers over the past five years. | ||
| This was brought to us by a great friend of Stephen K. Band of the War Room. | ||
| David Ramaswamy shared this chart with me, so I want to give him full credit. | ||
| If you want to go to that last chart, right, they got them right. | ||
| So these are two stacked on top of each other. | ||
| So this is from 2019 to 2024, five years. | ||
| Fred, this is Federal Reserve data, this is not right-wing watch, says we've added 1.5 million jobs. | ||
| That's nothing, folks. | ||
| Let me go over this real slow. | ||
| So over the past four years, I've been on the show with Steve and all the other economists, EJ and Peter Navarro, going over the jobs numbers. | ||
| Every month, the government has told us we're growing at 200,000 jobs a month or 250,000 jobs a month. | ||
| Well, just do a little bit of math there. | ||
| Take 250,000 jobs per month times 12 months a year. | ||
| That gets you 3 million jobs per year. | ||
| 3 million jobs per year times four and a half years gets you over 12 million jobs according to... | ||
| The Census Bureau and all the BLS and all the folks who count the jobs. | ||
| Well, we don't have 12 million jobs. | ||
| According to these charts from the Federal Reserve, it's way less than 12 million. | ||
| We only have 1.5 million jobs. | ||
| And then, to make matters worse, the summary statement, over 41% of those full-time jobs were government jobs. | ||
| And, of course, that's why productivity... | ||
| And CBO has it going down even further for the next 30 years. | ||
| And that's why GDP and your incomes are going down as well. | ||
| So there's a little bit of an overview. | ||
| All that, again, is connected to the one question in support of Peter Navarro. | ||
| Why tariffs? | ||
| Why trade? | ||
| Why do we need these Trump policies in place? | ||
| Because we're getting smoked, folks. | ||
| We have shipped our capital abroad. | ||
| We've shipped our firms abroad. | ||
| We've shipped our jobs abroad. | ||
| We've decimated our middle class. | ||
| There's your proof. | ||
| There's your long-term story. | ||
| Peter Navarro is doing the right thing, and we're going to prove it over the next couple years. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Amazing, amazing. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| It doesn't feel like they created 12 million jobs. | ||
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No. | |
| Right? | ||
| And we know that in the last five years, almost no net created jobs for American citizens. | ||
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That's right. | |
| All foreign-born workers. | ||
| All foreign-born workers. | ||
| So even if you created jobs, they were going to foreign-born workers and they didn't even delineate illegal aliens. | ||
| Tomorrow, folks, at 9 a.m., the doors are going to open. | ||
| I'll get the room number. | ||
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| Julie Kelly's going to be here in a moment. | ||
| Mike Davis later. | ||
| We're going to talk about what a grind it is. | ||
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| It's the Maryland Ballroom C&D. Maryland Ballroom Charlie and Delta. | ||
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| Short break. | ||
| She's alleging that the Deputy Attorney General asked her to fabricate a crime when she didn't see one. | ||
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Yeah, I think that's a fair way of looking at it. | |
| I want to just underscore some things. | ||
| First, Denise Chung, full disclosure, I've known her for many, many years. | ||
| She's not a friend, but she's a colleague. | ||
| Many people have known her. | ||
| I think one of the things that you and Ryan have pointed out, she's been a prosecutor for 24 years. | ||
| That means she is used to serving under many different administrations. | ||
| Nobody would describe her as the deep state. | ||
| She is your classic worker bee person who you want in government. | ||
| So this is who you're dealing with. | ||
| Somebody who has dealt with and worked with Republican and Democratic administrations. | ||
| So I want to make sure that's just like what we've seen in terms of the resignations of key people in the southern district of New York. | ||
| That's who she is. | ||
| Super reputable. | ||
| Wonderful reputation. | ||
| Second, I want to make sure people understand, though, what is being said here, what the import is. | ||
| The Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, I'm not going to get too nerdy, that is all about protecting all of our privacy. | ||
| It requires that there is factual predication before there is a search and before there is a seizure. | ||
| That factual predication means there has to be probable cause. | ||
| What Denise is saying in her resignation... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I got Julie Kelly. | ||
| Julie, give it to me. | ||
| First off, you've got breaking news. | ||
| Very, very important. | ||
| Something you broke the other day when it first happened. | ||
| What just came across the wire? | ||
| So what just happened within the past hour is Judge Tanya Chutkin, who of course presided over Jack Smith's January 6th indictment against the president, did deny... | ||
| Blue state's request for a temporary restraining order preventing Elon Musk and Doge from accessing data from seven federal agencies, including DHS, Energy, Education, or firing any of the employees there. | ||
| They sought a temporary restraining order. | ||
| This is about a dozen blue states who did this. | ||
| She denied that temporary restraining order, as I expected. | ||
| Covered her hearing yesterday. | ||
| But I think the real danger here, and this is what we talked about yesterday, Steve, is while she is trying to look measured by denying the temporary restraining order, she is going to consider a preliminary injunction. | ||
| But even more risky is she is teeing up what could be a very tense court battle over the fact allegations. | ||
| That Elon Musk's role violates the Constitution, specifically the Appointments Clause. | ||
| Okay, but this is why, this, correct me if, hang on, but this is what, you teed it up the other day, knowing she didn't have this in the order. | ||
| This is why, correct me if I'm wrong, we'll have Mike Davis on here. | ||
| Overnight, we woke up this morning that Elon Musk doesn't even head Doge anymore. | ||
| They sent out a legal notification of that, did they not? | ||
| Is that to work around this? | ||
| Do you believe the administration? | ||
| Is getting worried about Chutkin, given how radical she is and how much she hates President Trump? | ||
| No. | ||
| What that letter, and this was something that the DOJ filed last night in response to a request by Judge Chutkin, she wanted to know how many people had been fired at federal agencies last week and how many people were going to be fired over the next 14 days. | ||
| Now think about that just for a second. | ||
| You have a federal judge unaccountable to no one. | ||
| She doesn't oversee any employees herself, demanding to know who is going to be fired at federal agencies that she doesn't head up. | ||
| So the DOJ responded to that. | ||
| They said, yes, there were some firings. | ||
| We believe that there will be more firings. | ||
| However, the accusation that Elon Musk is the one responsible for these firings is not accurate. | ||
| So it wasn't so much that They said he's not head of Doge. | ||
| They just simply clarified that he is a special government employee, that he works for the White House, that he is in an advisory capacity, that he gets access to this data or information and then can make recommendations to agency heads who then can carry out either program cutbacks or firing federal employees. | ||
| So that was the clarification that the judge sought. | ||
| And that was filed last night. | ||
| So this was sort of related to, well, how can these states say that they are suffering irreparable harm if employees are fired by Elon Musk? | ||
| But that's not the case. | ||
| It was misrepresented by the states and has been misrepresented. | ||
| But again, Steve, the idea that Judge Chutkin, and here is the irony. | ||
| The appointments clause was the argument that the president's lawyers made in Judge Chudkin's courtroom. | ||
| She didn't have a chance to rule on it before the indictment was dismissed after the president won. | ||
| But also in the Florida case and Judge Cannon in July dismissed the Florida documents case based on her conclusion that Jack Smith, the special counsel. | ||
| That his appointment violated the appointments clause. | ||
| That because of the power and authority that he exercised, he was a principal officer and that required being nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate. | ||
| This is something that Judge Chudkin said at the end of her order today. | ||
| She specifically said Elon Musk has a lot of power in an office that was not created by Congress. | ||
| Neither was the special counsel's office. | ||
| That is not overseen by Congress, neither was Jack Smith, and that she strongly hinted, like she did in the hearing yesterday, that she will allow these blue states and others to pursue an appointments clause violation to disqualify Elon Musk from what he's doing for the president. | ||
| In her ruling, though, she still holds up. | ||
| What's the timing? | ||
| And when she gets back with us on the injunction and all that, that's still to come. | ||
| Is she giving us a time frame for that? | ||
| Because this could set the trigger. | ||
| This will set the dominoes for a lot of other things the White House is working on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So she did ask for more briefs related to the preliminary injunction by the end of the week. | ||
| Now, she's very shrewd, Judge Tutkin. | ||
| Of course, I've covered her for over a year and a half in the J6 case. | ||
| So she knows that a temporary restraining order is not appealable, even though one of them is being appealed, and that's at the Supreme Court. | ||
| That's a whole different issue. | ||
| So she's going to move forward on the preliminary injunction, which will be appealable and set off whether this could be a more longer-term hold on Elon Musk's ability to access this data. | ||
| But again, she's kind of making herself look measured here. | ||
| By denying the temporary restraining order, but pursuing something that could be far more damaging to the president, Elon Musk, and his efforts, and that is allowing these plaintiffs to put together an argument that she will accept that Elon Musk violates his appointment, violates the Constitution. | ||
| Now, folks, understand they're going to be hitting the federal courts on all of this, state attorney generals, all these Democrats, so get ready. | ||
| They're going to try to chop block and slow down, as we said. | ||
| Any update? | ||
| Has the Supreme Court on the emergency docket, have they taken up the situation with the special counsel yet? | ||
| President Trump's ability to fire? | ||
| So this is a different special counsel, right? | ||
| So this is the office of special counsel. | ||
| This is a permanent office in the executive branch. | ||
| And this relates to the president's firing of Hampton Dellinger, who was a Biden appointee, who also worked with Hunter Biden at Boies Schiller during the whole Burisma scandal. | ||
| Joe Biden appointed him to a top position at the Department of Justice, then moved him to head of office of special counsel, which handles a lot of complaints by government employees, whistleblower complaints, the Hatch Act violations. | ||
| So this is the office that's kind of the repository for those complaints. | ||
| It's a pretty powerful office, as we have seen, Hatch Act whistleblowers. | ||
| The trouble that those allegations caused during the first Trump administration. | ||
| So Hampton Dellinger was fired February 7th. | ||
| On February 10th, he filed a lawsuit seeking a temporary restraining order, which was granted by Judge Amy Berman Jackson. | ||
| And so that's kind of made its way through the Appellate Court, DC Appellate Court, and now an emergency application before the Supreme Court. | ||
| That has been taken up. | ||
| Judge John Roberts today set a deadline of two o'clock tomorrow for Hampton Dellinger to file a reply, which he already did today. | ||
| His defense is just a hodgepodge of really his firing violated the statutory language of firing the special counsel. | ||
| You needed to prove malfeasance or some other misconduct before firing him. | ||
| But of course, this boils down to what all these lawsuits. | ||
| Are about, and that is preventing the president from exercising his executive authority to run the executive branch, especially offices like the Office of Special Counsel that, again, has a lot of power, could cause a lot of trouble for the president if Hampton Dellinger, which he has been restored, he's back in that office, is allowed to remain there. | ||
| Okay, we have it on split. | ||
| Let's go to the split screen right now. | ||
| That's the vote to break cloture on Cash Patel. | ||
| If this takes place, I think Cash will have his confirmation hearing on Thursday. | ||
| Great job, Warren Posse. | ||
| No need to call right now. | ||
| I think we're into the process on this. | ||
| Julie, all day, MSME season, total meltdown about Southern District of New York and also Mayor Adams, other potential resignations. | ||
| Your latest status report on that. | ||
| Yes, so the judge in the Eric Adams case has set a hearing, I believe, for tomorrow or Thursday to hash out. | ||
| Obviously, it's been dismissed by the government, so we'll see what that judge does there. | ||
| More importantly, I think we saw, and you saw Andrew Weissman, I love how all of a sudden they're talking about Fourth Amendment rights and Eighth Amendment rights. | ||
| due process for all these people when they've completely shredded it for the president, people like you, other aides, and of course 1,600 J6ers. | ||
| Denise Chung, who once worked for Eric Holder, was his national security advisor, a longtime DOJ fixture, as Andrew Weissman said, resigned today because apparently she was not following orders, like we've seen other prosecutors resigned today because apparently she was not following orders, like we've seen other prosecutors do, was not following orders to pursue an | ||
| do was not following orders to pursue an investigation into this twenty billion dollars slush fund under the Influet inflation Reduction Act and Green Deal initiatives. | ||
| Twenty billion dollars the Biden administration parked at Citibank last year. | ||
| This is unprecedented. | ||
| $20 billion they parked at Citibank, who then doled out grants. | ||
| To at least eight nonprofits with these crazy names, you know, climate justice and all the radical left-wing progressive environmentalists. | ||
| And then they were doling out grants to other organizations, NGOs and organizations. | ||
| There was no oversight to this whatsoever. | ||
| This is what Lee Zeldin was talking about last week, about this $20 billion slush fund and evidence of wrongdoing. | ||
| So you have the Department of Justice now under the president wanting to investigate potentially wire fraud, potential conspiracy, and other related offenses. | ||
| And Denise Chung, I haven't seen her email, but I've seen plenty of reporting, just like we saw with Danielle Sassoon in the Southern District of New York, claiming that somehow they are independent entities. | ||
| They don't have to follow orders. | ||
| So she resigned. | ||
| But of course, this will not be the end of what looks like a huge scandal. | ||
| $20 billion parked at Citibank. | ||
| No congressional or executive oversight. | ||
| Handing out our money to who knows what. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| We've got to bounce. | ||
| Another great report, Julie. | ||
| Where do people find you? | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| So I'll be writing about this declassified with Julie Kelly, also ex-Julie underscore Kelly, too. | ||
| And I will be at CPAC as well this week, speaking Friday at noon with former Capitol Police Chief Steve Sutton. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Julie Kelly, the great Julie Kelly. | ||
| We'll see you at CPAC. She'll be on the War Room. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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| Okay, Dave Brett, here's the issue we've got, and here's what, and look, they're coming at Doge from every different angle. | ||
| We have two things that are going on. | ||
| Number one, we're already at the limit of the debt ceiling, so Scott Besson's doing emergency measures to make sure the cash that comes in from receipts and tariffs and duties and taxes, everything can pay interest and, you know, he can stretch that out for a while. | ||
| Midnight on the 14th is like midnight on the September 30th. | ||
| You run out of the legal authority to actually spend money, which is a different thing than actually not having the money to spend. | ||
| Now, the reason you don't have authority is you haven't authorized money to be spent. | ||
| There's a couple options. | ||
| Number one, take the single, what you should do is have the single subject authorization bill, the Senate confirm, we argue, we vote, ba-bing, ba-bang, ba-bung, and you pass it, you've got a budget, you've got authorizations, appropriations, by law, it's a law, President Trump signs, and Bob's your uncle. | ||
| Given that there's only 75% or 80% of the appropriations bills have been done in the House, and we don't know how many in the Senate, but they haven't come together at conferences, so that's not going to happen. | ||
| In under four weeks, you concur. | ||
| They're raising up the flagpole to do a full year CR, which will take us to September 30th with half the year, which will be a major defeat because the President Trump forces all of us kick the can down the road for 90 days so this will be President Trump's budget and not Biden's. | ||
| So now we're in a situation that we have Biden's numbers, a $2 trillion deficit, and no doge. | ||
| When do we start to have to get a feel for what Doge actually has, either in the audits, which is going around saying, stop this payment, stop that payment, boom, boom, boom, much less to get to the big things of taking programmatic, which I understand from people on the Hill is going to take place in July at the appropriations hearings. | ||
| This is what this is. | ||
| When do we have to get numbers? | ||
| Because I don't even know how you get in the process. | ||
| I guess what Russ does is the day after you do the CR is you say, Hey, I'm going to impound certain money, and that money is all targeted to a doge line, so it's $80 billion, it's $84 billion, and I'll do it. | ||
| That, ladies and gentlemen, will get us right back to the Supreme Court right away, but that's a fight that we're kind of looking for. | ||
| Where do you think this stands, given your expertise and what your sources are telling you? | ||
| No, I think it stands right where you're describing we're going to punt again. | ||
| Back when we had Paul Ryan, etc., and then McCarthy. | ||
| We did the same thing. | ||
| We promised 12 bills. | ||
| The House did seven of them, covering 60 to 70 percent of spending. | ||
| Senate did none of them. | ||
| Right now, the two missing players are the Speaker, Mike Johnson and John Thune. | ||
| They need to come out, right? | ||
| It's our own side fighting against ourselves. | ||
| And they're scared that we might lose a vote or two. | ||
| But if you cobble together a compromise that has part of the border, part of ending the wars, part on the doge, we're not going to get the Russ vote $1.7 trillion cut. | ||
| But if we hand in another $7 trillion Nancy Pelosi budget, people may not get that. | ||
| If you do a CR, you're doing all the Pelosi policy. | ||
| That's all the woke stuff. | ||
| That we just ran against that you think you're winning on right now. | ||
| All that huge momentum that you're feeling great about that we're messaging on, we're gaining momentum. | ||
| The Fortune 500 firms are doing good. | ||
| Educational institutions are turning around. | ||
| If we embed $7 trillion of the opposite, we're going to lose some momentum. | ||
| And so it's incumbent on our own team to get it straight, right? | ||
| We've got to do energy policy. | ||
| Plus, we're going to finance the doge. | ||
| The doge is identifying cuts on the audits, and you're going to fully finance those. | ||
| That's what's absurd about this. | ||
| Am I wrong on that? | ||
| No, no, that's right. | ||
| They need to come together. | ||
| It's not going to be perfect, but we've got to get all three or four of these components that the war room has been talking about forever. | ||
| Together. | ||
| So our own side is in agreement. | ||
| Right now you've got the tax cut guys trying to do just tax cuts. | ||
| You've got the border folks doing just the border. | ||
| It's clear we've got to put it all together into one package called the budget, and that's it. | ||
| And that's a job for leadership, and it can't all be on Trump again. | ||
| Thune and the Speaker have got to step up and frame that in a way that's – and also it cannot all go to the rich, right? | ||
| The benefits have to go to the middle class. | ||
| That's a key. | ||
| You watch at the end of this. | ||
| They could be punting it right to the end so that they shock you. | ||
| We'll get into all that in the next hour. | ||
| We've got Frank Marino. | ||
| Frank is running in Staten Island. | ||
| Frank, I'm glad we had a technical problem. | ||
| I'm glad we got you up. | ||
| We love Staten Island. | ||
| We love New York City. | ||
| Tell us what you're running for and why is it important? | ||
| Gavin Wax, all the folks in the back of you, why is it important to get back to your campaign? | ||
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| Staten Island, first of all, thanks for having me on. | ||
| I'm a big admirer of former Congressman Brad, and you know what a fan I am of yours, Steve. | ||
| But Staten Island is ground zero for the conservative populist revolution. | ||
| We were populist conservative before all the Washington insiders were pretending to be populist conservatives. | ||
| And I know people think, you know, New York City, oh, they're a bunch of liberals and they're easy to write them off. | ||
| But for Staten Island, there would have been no Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| Staten Island, there would not have been any of the incredible crime reduction in New York City that you saw in the 90s and 2000s, which was enough to drive down the crime numbers in all of the United States. | ||
| So we got support, a lot of great support, the Republican Party, the Conservative Party, Mayor Giuliani, Andrew Giuliani, a lot of other folks from MAGA World. | ||
| And if we have any hope of beating back migrant shelters in Staten Island, non-citizen voting in New York City, which you can bet is going to spread. | ||
| We've got to win this seat. | ||
| And we need somebody, and I would submit that it's me, that has the ability to use the bully pulpit of this office to take a stand against the radical leftist ultra-woke policies that City Hall is trying to shove down our throat. | ||
| And if you look at what's happening, we have on the one hand a corrupt mayor who had throughout his entire career as a politician and a police officer has done nothing but blame white people. | ||
| And then you have a bunch of ultra left wing people that are trying to drive him from office because they say now he's implementing policies that are too sensible. | ||
| If we have any chance of stopping that, it's going to be with me. | ||
| Go to Morano for council dot com. | ||
| Even if you don't live in New York City, we I'd love to engage with folks on the issues. | ||
| Get some ideas. | ||
| Morano for council dot com. | ||
| Frank, you're one of the best. | ||
| I want everybody to go to that site. | ||
| Engage with Frank Moreno. | ||
| He is a beast. | ||
| We've got some really great folks back in. | ||
| Look forward to having you back on, brother. | ||
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Anytime, Steve. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| From Staten Island. | ||
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The home of Vish Burra. | |
| Producer extraordinaire. | ||
| Producer emeritus. | ||
| He's now the producer of the Matt Gaetz. | ||
| They're out surfing. | ||
| Vish would have helped us here this afternoon, but they're out surfing. | ||
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He and Matt are out surfing today out in San Diego. | |
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Birch Gold, by the way, we'll get Lindell in the next hour. | ||
| Shocking news out of Nashville. | ||
| Shocking news from Mike Davis coming in and talking about the legal assault on President Trump. | ||
| So far, they're fighting back. | ||
| So far, so good, but it's going to be a relentless day, Brett. | ||
| Also, we're going to talk about this process. | ||
| We need to get our arms around spending, and we need to do smart tax cuts. | ||
| Smart supply-side tax cuts. | ||
| Smart spending cuts. | ||
| Write the ship. |
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