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WarRoom Battleground EP 707: Getting Rid Of Sanctuary Cities
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
donald j trump
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
donald j trump
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
It's Wednesday.
12 February, year of 2022. Breaking news just coming across.
I don't know if you've seen this.
Federal judge lifts the pause on the downsizing of federal workers.
Federal judge lifts pause on Trump's resignation plan for federal workers.
Federal judge in Massachusetts declined to further pause the Trump's administration's buyout program's deadline, rejecting a call from several labor groups that are suing to block the program.
So I think you're going to see this in more and more federal courts, even at the first line, before going to appellate and then going to the emergency docket of the Supreme Court.
Natalie, the left up to their typical tricks, and depending on the courts, depending on lawfare, I think they could get some rude awakenings, because I believe that these executive orders, since the Project 2025, America First Law under Stephen Miller, America First Parties under Brooks Rollins, It took years to think this through so they're not messing around.
Your thoughts, ma'am?
unidentified
Well, look, they certainly have admitted out loud.
natalie winters
I think, you know, Ali Velshi spent, what, months dedicating an entire show to sort of counter-programming, reverse-engineering a lot of what Project 2025 stood for, right?
So they, to some extent, understand our legal playbook.
But unfortunately, I think constitutionality and the truth is on our side, right?
And I think, frankly, too, the media's narrative, which, like, we've really been hammering on this show, is really their only method.
of pushing back.
And I, of course, have a front row seat to all that being in and around the White House briefing room.
This idea that we're barreling towards a constitutional crisis is sort of the narrative of the day.
But I just don't think that that's particularly salient or powerful.
I think it sort of goes into the kind of doge matrix of, you know, the same people who've been okay with unelected bureaucrats running this country.
For years are now upset about so-called unelected bureaucrats, although I would argue much more competent in terms of actually deconstructing the administrative state.
But the lawfare will not obviously go away.
They'll courtshop it or insert verb there.
In other words, they will adjust the variable, the sort of conduit through which they choose to try to oppose President Trump's executive orders, whatever it may be.
It's not just going to go away.
They're not going to concede.
I'm sure the left will be rather angry at this judge.
I'm sure they'll probably say it was anticipatory obedience.
That's their idea.
But Democracy Forward, I believe, in concert with a lot of union groups, had brought this suit in particular, this judge, out of Massachusetts.
I also believe it was an Obama judge.
It was sort of a similarly radical track record to a lot of the judges that have been exposed, like the one we went after this morning.
Also, too, I mean, I think the threat of impeachment against a lot of these judges, they know deep down that they're acting outside of legal norms.
They're acting extra-constitutional, I wouldn't even say unconstitutional.
You know, those are valid threats.
And I think this morning, you've seen Elon Musk and a lot of people sort of start to call for that.
Pam Bondi was sort of alluding to it in an interview.
With Fox, President Trump kind of echoed that sentiment.
Even Caroline Lovett was asked about it today.
So I think that they've maybe realized that they've sort of poked a bear, for lack of a better word.
And I think that the Trump administration has signaled, like, with what you just saw from Pam Bondi, they're not messing around.
Republicans in Congress, maybe.
But I think the White House is certainly not.
But just to sort of link this back to the immigration stuff and to Pam Bondi's press conference, it is quite...
I would say interesting watching the media sort of adapt in real time and trying to come up with their various narratives to sort of push back against whatever the crisis may be.
For example, right yesterday, you have that reporter saying, well, actually, Elon and President Trump, it wasn't bad that we sent the condoms, sorry, $50 million worth of them.
Because we sent them to Mozambique and not Gaza.
And that shows you the mindset that sort of plagues these people.
It's like, no, that's still an issue.
But today there's been an interesting narrative on sort of the mass deportation front.
The Guardian had a big piece up, I think the studio has it, saying that, quote, misleading ICE data is laying the groundwork for mass deportation, advocates say.
And they're essentially in meltdown because they're saying that And I quote, only 21% of the people who they've been deporting have a felony criminal conviction.
The vast majority are misdemeanor offenders.
So they're in real time.
It's like a real-time exercise, trial by fire, just throwing every narrative that they can against President Trump.
I think they got the most victories with the lawfare stuff, so that's where they're sticking with it.
But I think that that was maybe just...
Temporary hope, right?
Because eventually, I think reality, which is, I don't know, the Constitution and the courts, maybe a little bit of retribution in the form of Pam Bondi is going to hit him square in the face, metaphorically.
steve bannon
So, Rachel Maddow, who's now doing it five nights a week, you tell she's not happy with that.
You know, she took a $5 million cut working one night a week.
She was making $30 million.
Now she's working five nights a week, at least for the first 100 days, 25. Her new thing, and you outlined this, I think, six, seven, eight months ago.
Autocratic breakthrough.
And I want to tie it to Norm Eisen and the work he's doing, but isn't this like this quick decision by the judge at the front line level to say, nah, I've looked at it, this is okay.
Where now they have to lose and they've got to go to the appellate.
Isn't that going to start, a couple of these are going to break their back on this autocratic breakthrough?
Because it's going to show that actually the courts have checked the Constitution.
What President Trump is doing is fully inside of his mandate under the unified theory of the executive as chief executive of the United States government, ma'am?
natalie winters
Well, it's because these aren't courts in the traditional legal sense, right?
They're activists, and that's why...
They're court shopping.
And you are right to link this back to the whole kind of autocratic breakthrough matrix, right?
They're very intentional with the words that they choose to describe President Trump as.
And right now, the word of the day is autocrat, right?
Because like we said, it gives them the pretext to then justify.
Outside of the system change, that's sort of the, you know, political theorist term of it.
They love citing Ziblatt and Levitsky, the famous political scientists who sort of talk about the breakdown in democracies, how you turn into or transform into an autocracy.
Anytime you hear them invoke Viktor Orban or any of these other Eastern European countries, they're trying to draw a parallel there to say...
Well, hey, just like USAID went in and tried to carry out color revolutions there and everywhere else, well, that's what we're going to do here in the United States.
And that Democracy Playbook, right, the book that we keep talking about, that just last weekend, Norm Eisen, quite literally admitted, basically held up on air on MSNBC and said, yeah, this is what we're doing to try to depose the democratically elected President Donald J. Trump.
One of the key pillars in that.
Is using the courts to do that.
I think the word court is mentioned like 50 times throughout the entire document.
So they're certainly going to double down on this.
But Steve, I also think too, just from a meta like narrative perspective.
The way that they have framed what is going on at Doge, the hypocrisy of caring about unelected bureaucrats aside, they make it seem like it's this roving, marauding band of unelected people who are just out to enrich Elon Musk and to enrich President Trump.
unidentified
The key point that you always hear is that there's no oversight.
natalie winters
There's no oversight.
Because I know Washington, D.C. and the media, they care so much about oversight empirically.
I think the four years of Joe Biden, I beg to differ.
But the reason why they're framing it through this lens is because it goes back to this concept of autocratic breakthrough, right?
They love the idea of unelected bureaucrat, unelected president.
Elon Musk, because it totally fits with that narrative, with that trope.
And they've tried to paint it not as this cutting waste, fraud, and abuse exercise, but as autocratic and oligarchic.
And sure, maybe there's some legitimacy if you want to have this sort of tech bro discussion about what transhumanism means and how they carry it out.
But that's a different, more nuanced conversation, right?
They are invoking that in this whole Doge thing.
They love the idea of really projecting, because at the end of the day, they're the ones defending authoritarian regimes abroad, but sort of conceiving of the idea of Doge as this authoritarian, what do they always say, takeover, because it gives them more legitimacy to then push back with these bogus court rulings, because then these judges, as you can see on the left, you know, all I do is consume left-wing media.
These judges are being hailed as the saviors of democracy and standing on the front line.
So in their twisted, warped worldview...
They're not attacking President Trump like they did in 2016, right?
It's different.
It's not hair on fire, screaming, melting down about everything.
It's much more measured because they actually have a playbook that we've read and we've discussed on this show, but they don't gain anything from depicting him as erratic and crazy and all over the place.
They gain more from their color revolution vantage point in depicting him as this very calculated, very smart Very autocratic, democratic, backsliding individual, because then they can dip into their revolutionary toolkit that not just the media hacks, but academics and that whole sort of democracy, lawfare, journo crew of people who really probably need to be investigated and have more than just their security clearances revoked.
But they then have the moral, they would view it that way, and just political cover.
To really engage in what I always say is that outside of the system change.
And right now you're seeing that with these, you know, extrajudicial decisions.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Natalie, social media, where can folks get you?
And we'll see you back here tomorrow.
natalie winters
Well, hey, and speaking of autocrats, I would love to congratulate President Trump on his unanimous election to the board of the Kennedy Center.
Very exciting.
You can follow me, Nat G. Winters, on all platforms.
steve bannon
That was Grinnell.
Grinnell said we're going to have an explosive announcement at 2 o'clock.
It was Trump's unanimous.
The head visigoth now in charge of the high church.
Natalie, thank you so much.
Get back to work and we'll see you tomorrow.
natalie winters
Thank you.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
Great job.
Talk to you about the budget.
We're going to get Benzman up here in a moment and talk about the logistic difficulties in trying to remove these folks with no money.
I know it's kind of hard to believe in six and a half trillion dollars, there's no cash to actually do something that's important, like deportations.
But there's not, and the infrastructure's not there either.
Surprise, surprise, surprise.
That's why birch gold, I think, is so important now.
When you see this budget come out, and it's really, at first, it's a joke.
It's not even a joke.
It's offensive.
As far as being meaningless, and they spent so much time, we had this markup, and really, you know, there's so many conservative wins here.
Just remember, there's so many conservative wins.
But they cut Medicaid, you know, they cut Medicaid in, like, starting at five years.
Oh, by the way, it's not a cut to defense.
Defense increases.
No, I'm not making that up.
I am not making that up.
Did I tell Elon, cross the Potomac.
Cross the Potomac, brother.
Get over there, because this thing's not going to get sorted until you get to the railhead of the spending, and that's the Defense Department.
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The key thing is to get one of the specialists and have them walk you through the different, what I call the instrumentality of actually how you get into precious metals.
But I think now more than ever, and gold was at near an all-time high, 29.29, I think, at the close.
It's not important exactly what the number is.
It's important that you understand how the number got there.
How about that?
And that's what Philip Patrick and the team, and that's what all the free information we give you.
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Make sure you do it today because, folks, I will guarantee you one thing.
This budget that was given, first of all, will never be approved, but number two, it's just a foreshadowing...
of turbulence, the inflation number this morning, and this, turbulence.
We got Mr. Turbulence is coming.
Just be prepared for it.
Benzman, you've got, there's two things going on.
I want to make sure I had to get you here, okay?
First off, Pam Bondi gives a press conference.
He brings the angel moms up, but you've been, in your professional work, one of the best people in the country of providing a platform and research and reporting to give those That are voiceless a platform to even get here and have Trump win, but now it was so great when the angel moms was down in the press briefing room.
In seeing that, you've got to think about, well, hey, about these mass deportations, particularly the criminals.
Pam Bondi's sitting there telling Letitia James and Bragg, I don't want to hear it anymore.
You know, Alvin Adams or Adams has got, Eric Adams has got religion.
You guys are going to get religion.
You're not going to get in the way.
Of our, you know, picking up these bad guys and getting them out of the country.
And we're not going to have, they put the FBI people on notice, hey, we're not going to have these leaks happen anymore.
So I want to deal with that before I go, because you're going to a quite dark place, which I think we have to in this.
And that is the whole other element of this.
There's going to be, we're going to get in conflict with the Mexican drug cartels.
That day is coming as sure as the turning of the earth.
But let's start with the budget problems, the logistics problems, what I call the embeds in the administrative and deep state that are fighting people.
Folks have to know, Homan and Emma Bovee and Stephen Miller and many, many other people that are working this 24-7 are working against an apparatus that Pam Bondi had to come out today and say, look, you guys keep it up.
She was essentially saying we're going to be arresting government officials.
Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
Right, they're suing government officials.
Illinois, now New York.
They're gonna, it's no holds barred.
They're just pulling out all stops.
Wherever they can find a stop, they're pulling it to get this deportation program underway.
They need money.
It's gonna be expensive.
They're looking at using defense budget money to help them ramp up.
They need more deportations to kind of meet the mass deportation program, right?
The definition of mass deportation, you're going to have a lot more.
You have to deport a lot more, but you got to have the detention space and the infrastructure.
There's a Senate bill.
Moving forward, a spending bill that looks at maybe $175 billion for detention and deportation costs.
But remember, Homan said, he said it many times, what price do you put on national security, keeping Americans safe?
It's worth it, is how they look at it.
So the money's coming, but in the meantime, they may have to use defense budget money.
They've done it before.
They'll do it.
Again, there'll probably be some litigation about that.
But we can't brook the release of ICE detainees anymore.
There have been 300 or 400 that they had to release because there were nowhere to put them.
That's over.
That's got to end that sort of thing because the rest of the world gets wind of those releases very quickly, live time on their cell phones, and they'll start to try to come through the border again.
That's kind of where we are.
There's money.
They're asking for a lot of money.
They're going to get a lot of money.
They've got the trifecta.
They're going to get a lot of money.
But it's going to all take a little bit of time, I keep saying.
It's going to take a little bit of time.
steve bannon
Okay, so story just broke as Ty was talking.
NBC News, Trump administration, consider using defense funding to ramp up deportations.
Remember, we hit the debt ceiling.
The Treasury Secretary right now is actually using emergency measures.
Scott's actually already using emergency measures to keep the cash and make sure we don't default on anything.
You got the 14th of March where technically we cannot fund anything.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Even as jaundiced as this town is and cynical about spending, $175 billion is a lot of money.
Is it not?
todd bensman
Yeah, they're going to need every penny.
Steve, I lost your audio, so I missed a lot of what you were saying there, but I wanted to circle back to your original question about Mexico because there's also reporting, fresh reporting out.
CBS, etc., that the Mexicans are detecting U.S. spy plane activity over the northern border regions.
This is unusual.
This is something new.
What do you think they're doing up there with AWACS and other kind of high-tech surveillance aircraft?
Well, I've got sources that have been telling me that there's a lot of tabletopping going on in D.C. With the Mexicans to target fentanyl labs down there that maybe the Mexicans are going to be targeting.
I'm going to guess that the Americans are going to be providing the intel.
But it's interesting that the Mexicans are the ones complaining about the spy flights and disclosing it.
They're the ones disclosing it, so I don't know if they're in on this or not.
But the point is, there's a lot of U.S. activity that we're not used to seeing.
Happening over Mexico right now and probably on the ground as well.
Remember, Trump just put out executive orders that publicly declare in memos, publicly declare all-out total war on the Mexican cartels and their fentanyl labs to stop the fentanyl flow.
And I think he means business on this thing.
And the Mexicans just put 10,000 more troops out.
And they're rolling them out right now as we speak.
And their job, according to the tariff deal that Trump cut, is to dismantle the Mexican cartels.
So maybe we're going to see the end of the hugs, not bullets policy down there, sort of required by Donald Trump.
This is something that's definitely interesting and worth watching, whether we're heading into a hot shooting war down there.
steve bannon
Well, one of the top intel people knew you were coming on, been looking at your writings, also been doing their own independent assessment.
So the ISR flights, which is the Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance, right?
The ISR flights over California and the coast along the Mexican border, very much an indicator that we are about to start to put the smack down on the cartels, but we had better be prepared for the cartels to return live fire, They may really go after a large-scale attack inside our lifelines, poisoning the water or pouring fentanyl across produce or in our grocery stores.
It's an ongoing war, and the cartels are just not going to roll over and give up.
That's an intelligence expert of the highest authority.
Your thoughts, Todd Benzman?
todd bensman
Yeah, they're not going to take it laying down.
Those guys are going to shoot.
Where they aim their fire is going to be the big question.
Are they going to shoot at the Mexicans or are they going to try something against U.S. agents or military?
I don't think that it's coincidental that the 10th Mountain Division is being mustered right now for a border mission.
Those guys, you know, they're intimidating.
They're coming with spy aircraft and all of their gear.
So, and they're going to probably end up in, I don't know where, I don't know where they're going to end up.
I'm guessing they're going to end up in Arizona, New Mexico, kind of blue states that don't have a lot of state police down there.
They're intimidating to have, I mean, you know, to have those.
And I'm also hearing that, and this is unconfirmed, it's a one-source thing, I'm just going to say that, I don't know for sure, that the U.S. Navy is going to be moving assets up the Pacific coast.
Elements of the Sixth Fleet might be moving up there.
Things are happening.
I'm pretty sure things are happening.
And it shouldn't be a surprise because Trump is messaging and projecting, we're going after this.
We are not going to just sit back like the last administration.
We're not going to let the Mexicans sit back either.
We've declared them a foreign terrorist or we're about to.
Declare them a foreign terrorist organization or all of them or some of them.
I'm not sure how they're going to scope that, which means that they can seize assets globally.
They can go after these cartels.
They can charge banks and individuals with material support, which is a 20-year kind of you're going to prison deal.
And they're cornering the...
And one other thing I want to say about that is the Scheinbaum administration down there and liberal media all over Mexico and in the United States keep harping over and over again that US gun stores are supplying those cartels with all of their arsenals.
And that is just completely bogus.
Some of it does come from US gun stores, retailers.
For sure, and ammo as well.
But those cartels are armed up with second- and third-generation, fully automatic, belt-fed,.50-caliber machine guns.
They are not getting those in the U.S. They've got Claymore mines.
They've even reputed to have these Javelin, shoulder-fired Javelin missiles down there, two or three of them or more.
And they've got mortars and they have military-grade equipment and they're getting most of that from Mexico's own armories and from Central American armories, older stockpiles and that sort of thing.
Go ahead.
steve bannon
Yeah, no, no.
Just hang on.
I want to hold you through the break because I want to talk about this.
The pre-positioning of the 10th Mountain Division.
You've got, when Todd talks about the 6th Fleet, that's not a...
The 3rd Fleet is really the Pacific Coast Fleet.
The famous 7th Fleet is the Western Pacific.
What he's talking about, bringing the 6th Fleet, you're bringing some assets from the Atlantic to come in and get heavy duty in Mexico.
Not simply from the Gulf of America.
Doesn't that roll off the tongue?
Short commercial break, Todd on the other side.
We've got the situation of the mosque in Gaza.
You've got the situation in Ukraine, which President Trump's been negotiating all day.
And you've got cartel wars.
World on fire.
Donald Trump.
Wasn't it great in the old days to have to sit there and just think about what Biden was doing to sit there?
How do we get action?
How he sat there was so frustrating.
Every day, action, action, action.
The days of thunder.
Continue.
unidentified
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unidentified
You went and lost your pride, but I'm American made.
I got American part.
alex jones
I got American part.
donald j trump
No, we had a great call and it lasted for a long time, over an hour this morning.
I also had with President Zelensky a very good call after that.
And I think we're on the way to getting peace.
I think President Putin wants peace, and President Zelensky wants peace, and I want peace.
I just want to see people stop getting killed.
We're very far away from that particular.
War, but that's a vicious war.
Probably a million and a half soldiers killed in a short period of time.
I've never seen anything.
I have pictures that are...
You wouldn't believe it.
You wouldn't believe what you have to look at.
Young, beautiful soldiers that are just being decimated.
And it would be nice to end it immediately.
But we had a very good talk with...
People didn't really know what...
President Putin's thoughts were, but I think I can say with great confidence he wants to see it ended also.
That's good.
And we're going to work toward getting it ended and as fast as possible.
It's a horrible situation going over.
It's flat land, and the bullet goes off, and the only thing it can hit is a body, a human body, a young human body.
And they're losing just tremendous numbers of mostly soldiers.
The cities and towns have been largely demolished.
It's a shame what's happened to that country.
It would have never happened if I were president.
That I can tell you.
Would have never happened.
To look at that.
And October 7th would have never happened either, by the way.
Middle East.
But we'll get it.
I think we'll get it.
We'll get something done.
We're going to be meeting.
Actually, tomorrow they're meeting in Munich, as you know, and we're going to have some other meetings, and I'll be dealing with President Putin largely on the phone, and we ultimately expect to meet.
In fact, we expect that he'll come here, and I'll go there, and we're going to meet also probably in Saudi Arabia the first time.
We'll meet in Saudi Arabia, see if we can get something done.
But we want to end that war.
That war is a disaster.
It's a really bloody horrible war.
steve bannon
Think about that for a second.
If we hadn't had the election stolen by Biden, you'd never had Ukraine, you'd never have the Gaza war, 7 October, and you'd never have the invasion of 10 million people.
That 175 billion, do we have a spare 175 billion?
We do not, folks.
You look at this budget, and when I tell you to go over to Birch Gold, I mean, you've got to spend some time, you've got to do some homework.
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$175 billion.
So think about that.
Because Trump had it stolen.
We have a Ukraine war with...
And this is President Trump saying these numbers.
1.5 million killed.
I think he means killed and wounded.
1.5 million.
Roughly a million Ukrainians and 500,000 Russians.
Or 500 to 657. In Gaza, in Israel, the disaster of October 7th and everything that's come since then.
Gaza looks like Dresden.
Ukraine looks like Dresden.
10 million invaders on the southern border.
Todd Benzman and the team for the last four years have been documented.
Well, for longer than that, but specifically for Biden on the organized invasion have been viewing that.
He came out with a book, I think, halfway through called Overrun with that picture of the bridge.
Remember with the overrunning the bridge in Texas?
The Somalian, I think they were Somalian or maybe Haitian refugees.
It was horrific.
And they doctored the picture with the Border Patrol, with the lariats, and they said, oh, they're treating these people inhumanly.
All they wanted was more invasion.
Now $175 billion.
And it's not just $175 billion in cash out.
It's the opportunity cost, the time, the effort, the focus, time we're taking here, the time the president has to take.
What else could you be doing?
What other creative endeavors?
What could you be doing to build communities, to build a country?
And how many dead?
You had to age your mom up there.
Does your daughter have to be dead?
Do these young girls have to be dead, have to be raped and murdered brutally?
With their last thoughts on earth is, hey, I'm an American.
How could this be happening in my town, my community, my neighborhood?
By somebody who's not even here.
They're not even supposed to be here.
That these elites have led into this country.
And now Todd Benson comes on and he says, yeah, you know, we got it and the number's up to $175 billion.
Todd says they need every penny of it.
And that doesn't include because the 10th Mountain, and we're pre-positioning the 10th Mountain Division.
We're going to pre-position the 6th Fleet to maybe bring it over to the Pacific or take it into the Gulf of America.
And the opportunities cost here are enormous.
And people in this country did this to us.
They should never, ever, ever, ever, ever be allowed to be near public office.
No, I'm sorry.
And the judges that backed him up should be impeached.
It's a war.
It's a world at war.
And what Ben's been saying, they've got the spy planes going over, the ISRs going over there, and my senior intelligence guys in the end room are telling me, they said, hey, they're serious.
These are targeting exercises.
And Todd, the 10th Mountain Division is one of the toughest that we've got.
And particularly, it was always tough in World War II. It fought in Italy.
That's where it became famous.
But man, it became even as famous in modern warfare in Afghanistan.
In the Hindu Kush.
These are tough hombres.
When you send them down there, you mean business.
You mean something's going to get lit up.
This is not law enforcement.
This is war.
Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
Lots and lots of drug trafficking and smuggling through the mountains of Arizona.
Rough, rough country.
Same with New Mexico.
Rough country.
So I have to imagine that, you know, they're going to put them there.
But also, you know, remember, it's legitimate strategy to place military assets that you hope you don't need.
Like for the Gaza war during the Israel war with Hezbollah in the north.
You know, we moved up a bunch of aircraft carriers and all sorts of battleships and just let them sit there and said, hey, Hezbollah and Iran, you better not get too out of hand because we've got power here.
Well, same with the 10th Mountain Division.
You know, you put those guys down there, you're sending a big message to the other side of the border.
One thing that those cartels absolutely respect are military personnel on the American side.
You don't ever really hear much about those guys getting fired on.
And actually, to an extent, they also respect the Mexican military because they've got arms that are equivalent to what they have.
So that's really what it's all about.
Are your arms more powerful than their arms?
That's what counts, and our arms are going to be more powerful on this side.
I have to imagine, I don't know who's going to move in on the Pacific side.
There's a lot of Ponga boat traffic coming in with people and drugs into California, up the coast, pretty far north, as far north as Monterey and even further north than that, coming in from Mexico.
And I think they're going to try to put a stop to all of that, too.
I mean, really, they're just going to try to put the pressure back on the cartels.
On their drug smuggling operations.
And this really is important in a lot of ways.
I mean, it's a policy priority of the Trump administration.
We're going to shut down fentanyl trafficking.
But remember, the cartels have been making billions and billions of dollars, just absolutely flooded with cash on the Biden mass migration engineered crisis.
And now that's gone.
They pretty much shut that down.
It's not happening.
They're not moving people through anymore, so they lost that.
All they can do now is default to drug trafficking again, their old, good old friend, their business.
And now they're going to have a lot of pressure on that.
So it's going to be interesting.
steve bannon
You've dealt with this, Todd.
Before I let you go, I just want the people to be unnoticed, that these guys are very much like samurai.
Or very much like Kamikaze, they don't take, death means nothing to them.
Death of other people and death for themselves.
Don't think these brothers are going down without a fight.
The military is a different degree than law enforcement, even the heaviest law enforcement.
And when you bring in the 10th Mountain and the Navy to go up to the Ponga boats, you got all this, you got some of the best equipment and people trained to get it on.
But I'm just telling people, there will be blowback.
There's definitely going to be blowback.
And people have to be prepared for this.
When you designate them a terrorist group, that you can go get all their financial assets, start choking them down, and then you start going in to eviscerate it, just be prepared.
Not saying it's going to happen, but you've got to be prepared for it to happen.
Todd Bensman, your thoughts, your closing thoughts on this.
todd bensman
Right.
And I just want to, you know...
Point out that I was talking a little bit before the break.
This thing just really pisses me off because the, you know, the media is constantly saying, well, this is an American gun.
Americans love of guns is what is fueling and feeding the cartels in our own fentanyl catastrophe.
US gun stores are arming and equipping if they shoot at us.
It's with U.S. guns that they bought in retail stores.
And that's just not true anymore.
Once upon a time, 15 years ago maybe, but they are getting their weapons.
And these are military-grade machine guns, rocket-fired, shoulder-fired rocket-propelled grenades.
Grenade launchers, rifle grenade launchers with the 40mm rounds.
They have all of that stuff, and they didn't get it from U.S. gun stores.
So just keep in mind that that's from Central America and from Mexico's own armories.
So Mexico is the chief purveyor of this fraudulent narrative, political narrative.
So I guess if I was going to end with anything, it would be that.
They're very well armed.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Very well armed, and they're prepared to fight to the end.
These guys are not, there are a lot of things, they're evil, they're demonic, but they're not cowards and they're not quitters.
These are dangerous people, and they will fight this.
They understand that when the army's coming down, this is like Fort Apache to them.
They realize they lose this, they're out of business, and they don't intend, they have control.
I would argue, Todd, you know it better than I do, but I would argue almost that Mexico has devolved to be an anarchy narco state.
They control it and they're not prepared to give it up.
Your thoughts, sir?
todd bensman
Right.
Well, remember that Donald Trump has his finger on the tariff button.
And the Mexicans have maybe three weeks left to show some results.
So they are under the pressure to do something, some kind of show and tell, something that tells Donald Trump.
We're doing something that you like so that you won't push that tariff button.
That's 25%.
It's going to send the Mexican economy into a recession fairly quickly if he pushes that thing.
So they're hugs, not bullets.
Trump is basically pressuring them into reversing that policy into a bullets, not hugs policy.
steve bannon
Yeah.
He's not looking for hugs.
Todd, your social media, where are your writings right now, sir?
todd bensman
That's right.
BenzmanTodd at X. You can find me there.
I work for Center for Immigration Studies, CIS.org.
And you can find me on Getter and Truth Social as well.
steve bannon
You guys are the best.
Really the best, CIS. Thanks, Todd.
Appreciate you.
We've got to make sure we get...
All the Todd Benzos we got on War Room, why we can use them, because eventually I think a lot of these are also going to roll into the administration.
Now they're getting through some of the Senate confirms.
You're going to see some other quality people that you know and love, I think, go in there.
A couple things.
On the 28th of February, well, hold on, let's take it in order.
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This is going to be incredible.
We've got an all-day Force Multiply Academy we're putting together right now.
We're going to have some parties.
We're going to have meet and greets.
People know when I'm at these things, you know, AmFest, CPAC, I'll take the two or three days and get to meet all of you, take selfies, get to know you.
And this one's going to be the muzzle velocity for us driving through this year, a year.
And what did Lenin say?
There are decades in which nothing happens, and then there's weeks or months in which decades happen.
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You're living that right now.
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Also on the 28th, I think they're sold out.
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God, I haven't hung out with Amanda in a while.
She's a wild one.
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I think there's standing room only tickets now.
Make sure.
It'll be a blast.
And beforehand we'll get to do a meet and greet.
So that'll always be good.
I think tonight's Bobby Kennedy.
There was a reception.
Bobby Kennedy.
I was actually thinking of going.
I don't go to a lot of these things.
I was thinking of going.
Then Bobby Kennedy's not going to be there because he's not confirmed.
I believe we're on track, and if the engine room can help me out here.
I think it's going to be later tonight or maybe early in the morning.
President Trump is saying, hey, look, I'm kind of tired of playing games here.
Let's get some of these guys through here.
Historic day with Tulsi today.
I think Bobby will be tonight or in the early morning hours.
Then tomorrow when we come on, it'll be Cash.
It'll be Thursday, and Cash will be at the Committee of Jurisdiction, which will be the Judiciary Committee.
And then, you know, they keep saying his 30-day clock start ticking from the time he was on the, that he gave this testimony and for the confirmation process.
We don't know.
A lot of people say it's got to go quicker.
I know Pam wants him over there.
The president wants him over there.
There's a lot going on, particularly as Pam looks to clean out more of the FBI immediately and also take care of this.
Situation at Maine Justice.
Also, the U.S. Attorneys and Southern Districts are rat's nest.
They're going to clean that thing out.
Clayton and the team is going to go in there.
Got to clear that out.
So much going on.
The budget.
I'm going to do some work tonight on this.
By the way, I will be on the Jimmy Dore show if you watch Jimmy Dore on YouTube.
Excuse me.
I will be on the Jimmy Dore show here I think at 4.30.
Am I looking at 4.15?
4.30?
I'm looking at my producer.
He's looking at me blank.
He looks at me blank.
He's like, what are you talking about?
The Jimmy Dorsher.
I think I'm on next at 4.30 in Pacific Time.
7.30 here.
So if you catch it, he's on YouTube.
He's not here, but he's on YouTube.
7.15.
Eastern Standard Time.
4.15 Pacific Time.
I think Jimmy's out in L.A. I think he is.
Who knows?
We'll find out.
So make sure you catch that.
It ought to be interesting.
He's a very funny guy, a very smart guy.
Not exactly from our side of the political equation, but he's a populist and he's a nationalist, so that's close enough for us, right?
The home title lock.
What I like about this is the triple protection.
Remember, we need you at the ramparts.
The political muscle you've shown on President Trump's confirmation.
And not just that.
The phone calls that have been going into the offices to back up and say, hey, look.
We want President Trump's, you know, his program to succeed.
I'm just not excited by this budget.
Now, tomorrow, we're going to be dipping in and out.
We got Cash's vote.
We also got this budget meeting, budget markup.
We're going to figure out.
We're going to go in and out of that.
If it gets serious, we'll be covering it.
Otherwise, I'll probably be giving commentary.
Hopefully, tonight sometime, we'll be breaking this down so I can talk more reasonably.
But I just know this.
With $1.5 trillion of cuts over 10 years, that doesn't hack it.
You know, Elon's talking about a trillion dollars of cuts in a year.
I dig that.
And, hey, the judge today threw out the thing on the buyouts.
President Trump signed an EO yesterday that I think foreshadowed a RIF reduction in force of 50%.
unidentified
Don't know.
steve bannon
But home title act, the triple protection, we need you at the Ramparts.
They got the 24-7 coverage.
They've got the alert immediately if anybody's looking at you or touching your title.
That's that contract that says you own the real asset called your home.
And then they've got the million-dollar, it's called the million-dollar triple lock.
They've got the restoration project.
They will put lawyers, if you have any problem, if you've signed up for this and they still get through it, they've got your back with a million-dollar backup restoration program immediately to get on it.
Home title lock.
It's 80% of your net worth if you're lucky enough to have a castle that you own.
Baby, do everything you can to make sure nobody gets their grubby mitts on that thing.
HomeTitleLock.com.
Steve25.
See, I can remember that.
unidentified
I think some of these action things do something simple.
steve bannon
Steve25.
Kind of rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?
Not okay.
I'm going to be on Jimmy Dorn next, if you watch that on YouTube, right here from the War Room.
And back tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
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