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Feb. 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4244: Live From Greenland; Organized Invasion Of Our Country Through USAID

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natalie winters

08:52

steve bannon

23:48

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ben bergquam

03:05

jack posobiec

03:59

mike lindell

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified		Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Tuesday, 4 February, Year of Our Lord, 2025. Days of Thunder continue.
		We've got so much to get through, and we're going to try to get through all of it in this morning hour.
		This afternoon, Beebe will be at the White House at 4, press conference at 5. We'll be covering it wall-to-wall.
		We'll have Frank Gaffney and the whole team there talking about the strategic conversations between Beebe and President Trump.
		I want to go back to Greenland.
		Tom, I just want to reiterate one more time the links that we've had with Greenland, what happened, why the Dorchester is so important.
		Why that base was so essential in World War II and kind of the bonding that the American servicemen did with the indigenous people of Greenland, sir.
unidentified		Right, yeah.
		And Steve, you know, when we pick up in World War II is actually a continuation of recognition from the mid-19th century that Greenland was, you know, tied into the United States.
		And what was really the jumping off point, this is important for people to understand, is that, remember, the U.S. wasn't in World War II until Pearl Harbor.
		That was the war in Europe, right?
		We were concerned about North America, our home.
		But what happened was that Hitler moved into Germany.
		I mean, Hitler moved into Denmark very quickly.
		And in three hours, on April 9, 1940, they fell to the Nazis, leaving Greenland, which was a colony of Denmark, completely unattended.
		That's when...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, hang on, Tom.
		Hang on.
		Hang on.
		Whoa, whoa, whoa.
		Hang on.
		Hang on.
		Slow down.
		Slow down.
		Let's be brutally frank.
		They came into Denmark and they didn't exactly have, it wasn't Stalingrad, okay?
		The Danish elites, the Danish elites, just like in Norway and in Sweden, I know it, look, Ireland too, so we're, you know, Ireland, Denmark.
		Norway, Sweden was neutral, but their elites and the royal family all in with the Nazis.
		Norway was the worst with Quisling in that crowd.
		The Danes, not the best.
		And every country had brave people resisting.
		But the elites in that country essentially kind of rolled over, did they not?
		And just left Greenland to itself.
		That's the correct history.
		This is what I'm saying.
		saying if you look at these NATO countries back in the days when it mattered there are a lot of the elites in those countries kind of the same people hanging out in Strasbourg the same people skiing in Gestade the same people hanging out on the coast of France south coast of France in Monaco all those all those elites and those various capital living the high life they weren't exactly with us in uh in taking on uh the Nazis were they sir no I don't know
unidentified		Unfortunately, yeah, as you say, there were some brave Danes and others that got involved afterward, but the king scoffed at the fact that the Nazis might invade.
		I think he was at the theater the night before watching Shakespeare.
		I mean, hey, we all love Shakespeare, but there's a time and a place, right?
		You know, and they cut the military in half in the lead up to the war.
		So, you know, past is prologue a little bit.
		You know, now in Denmark, in Greenland here, you've got four transport, rather four ships that are basically charged with patrolling 1,800 miles of coastline.
		And even their kind of their destroyers had cannons that don't work on it until last year, two years into the Ukraine war.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So it's really not – Look, Greenland's so strategic, particularly in trying to box in the Russian Navy up in Mermansk and Archangel so they can't come through, the fast attacks and the boomers.
		Look, we have Sona boys, but you put a base right there.
		The issue we have strategically, folks, is the basic Cregan in Scotland is the only base really in Europe that can take nuclear submarines.
		And that's always dicey.
		You never know which way the Scots one day are going to be nationalists, the next day they're not.
		So Greenland is a strategic, in President Trump's hemispheric defense, Greenland may be the key that picks a lock.
		You add Greenland with Panama, and we're going to go in a moment to Larry Taughton and Ben Berkman and talk about the Darien Gap and talk about USAID being actually opposed to American strategic interests.
		Tom, before I let you go, the Wreathling, all that...
		Just reiterate what you did in President Trump's first term, his first administration.
unidentified		Yeah, so I was number two international official at Treasury, U.S. Treasury.
		A little shout-out to Secretary Besson.
		We have a great team there coming in.
		So I came in.
		COVID times, but because of my grandfather and our family background here, I wanted to pick up on Greenland and see where that lays.
		So basically, I got busy with the NSC and the staff there working on the Greenland issue, which we did to the very last day until we saw Moffitt and Andrews on the 20th.
		But that was...
		In a regnum, President Trump appointed me to the Arctic Commission, which afterward, which is kind of the headwaters for the U.S. Arctic policy.
		I've worked on that for a while, too.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm going to come back to you.
		I'll talk to you after the show.
		I want to get you back on tomorrow.
		Where do people go?
		Because the Arctic, when we talk about the Arctic now, that's what we call the new great game, the great game of the 21st century.
		Remember, we've talked a lot about the great game of the 19th with this competition between the Russian Empire and the British Empire in Afghanistan and Pakistan around Persia to get a warm water port for the Russians and for the British to protect the British Raj.
		And the new great game is the Arctic.
		This is why Canada is going to have to make a decision here because their strongest strategic defense is now the soft underbelly of Canada, which is that Arctic.
		And Tom, you know it better than anybody.
		Where do people go to get you on social media and where do they go to get your website that does this commemoration?
unidentified		Sure.
		Best place is really, you know, American Daybreak is a new organization.
		We're just standing that up.
		March 29th, we're going to help sponsor the Super Bowl of dog races.
		That's how they do it here in Greenland.
		So we'll hopefully be back then.
		We're looking to get some Chinooks to fly in the dogs from around Greenland.
		But I'm on Twitter.
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		TomDansCFA.
		T-O-M-D-A-N-S-C-F-A. Amazing, sir.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I will be back to you, Tom.
		The four chaplains day in Greenland near the basin we had in World War II. Obviously, Greenland's at the very highest, very high on President Trump's agenda.
		Let's go to the opposite side.
		Let's go to, let's go down to the Darien Gap.
		I want to bring in two of our experts, Larry Taughton and Ben Burkham.
		Ben Burkham's in Elizabeth City, North Carolina.
		Ben's been riding shotgun on ice raids.
		He stepped aside to talk about this.
		As I bring in Larry Taunton, I want to make sure Marjorie Taylor Greene, MTG, has announced she's introducing two bills immediately.
		One is abolishing the United States Agency for International Development.
		That would be USAID. And she's also going to do one declaring English as the official language of the good old United States of America.
		We're going to try to get MTG on here.
		Larry, first off, tell us, we had Mike Benz here.
		He breaks it down and does the information side of it and how it's been used against American citizens in the United States.
		It's one of the things we know that Elon's very upset about, Tucker Carlson's very upset about.
		But you and Ben, because you guys have lived down the Darien Gap, you bring a different perspective of how it's actually been funding these NGOs that are at the tip of the spear on the invasion of our country.
		Larry, tell us about it.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I have been following these migrant caravans for about five years.
		I mean, it seemed to be a very logical question that no one was asking, you know, back during Trump's first term was, what's happening south?
		Of the border.
		Why are these people coming to the United States?
		And of course, this has to do largely with the failure of socialism throughout Central America and South America.
		And then you discover that there are agencies like USAID, the United States Agency for International Development, that are facilitating the movement, what I would call human trafficking of- Millions of people through Darien and up to Mexico City and eventually from there to the United States border.
		And they're doing it through a series of NGOs, most notably the United Nations organization known as OIM, the Organization for International Migration, sometimes known as IOM, International Organization for Migration.
		So we're talking.
		Tens of millions of dollars that have been funneled through these organizations.
		And when I go in to some of the migration offices, say in places like Cartagena, Colombia, they will tell you off record that they are being told to facilitate the movement of specific nationalities through Darien or on flights to going to places that they themselves didn't even know where they were going into the United States.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Larry, we're going to do a split screen here if Denver gets that up.
		You were down there, and you've actually got tons of footage, but we can't get to that now.
		Maybe some B-roll.
		But you've got these great photos of USAID, almost like taking billboards out.
		I mean, they're putting the sign up, and it's in Spanish or Hispanic.
		To talk about, I guess, how they're there and they're one of the sponsors of essentially...
		And remember, folks, what they're doing is they're coming through from Cartagena, they're coming up through the treacherous Darien Gap where so many people die or the cartels lay hostage to them.
		These families, particularly young women, the children, have to go through this horrible, horrible thing to get to the United States and they're all paying cartels.
		Is USAID paying the cartels or are they paying these phony NGOs like...
		Catholic Charities, the Lutherans, these Jewish organizations, who are they paying?
unidentified		They're paying NGOs and reportedly 25 different NGOs, and again, most notably the UN, OIM. In that particular photo that you're showing right there, I took that inside an immigration office in Cartagena.
		Columbia.
		And then when I went down to Darien, to Nicoclea, Nicoclea, that's cartel country.
		That's the jumping-off point to Darien, where the cartels are charging people, based on what they think those people can pay, typically $150, $175 a head, in order to go over the two-hour ferry ride on these Zodiacs over to the Acondi, which is kind of the jumping-off place.
		And so, and there you would see, right there on the beaches, and I could find you some of those photos too, Steve, you would see the same logos right there where all of this is happening.
		So they've been essentially working, you know, hand in hand with the cartels.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I want you, Larry, hang over a second, Ben Burquam, and he is in Elizabeth, New Jersey.
		Okay, not North Carolina.
		My default position is always the South.
		Ben Burkowitz, you want to join us in a second?
		Hang on for a second.
		I want folks to embrace this.
		I want you to embrace this.
		Your tax dollars have gone through this phony organization.
		And this is what I'm saying.
		It has to be a massive criminal investigation.
		A criminal investigation.
		These are crimes.
		Your money...
		And they sat there and lie on MSNBC all night and seen they got crocodile tears running down.
		Jamie Raskin, these people outside USAID, and they're sitting there going, oh my gosh, it's all this stuff.
		Hey, it is going to finance the invasion of your country.
		Your money.
		What's that saying?
		It's a Persian saying from ancient Persia.
		Once an eagle struck by an arrow.
		Saw that it was made off of the feather of an eagle.
		And said, by our own hand, I'm smitten.
		Think about that for a second.
		We've done this to ourselves.
		People in this country have wanted this invasion.
		Go back to Burquam.
		Go back to Oscar Blue Ramirez.
		What did they tell us?
		Go back to Todd Benzman.
		For years and years and years, we covered this.
		This is why it got to be such a big deal, because these brave men and women went down there, into the heart of it.
		And what did they tell you?
		It's not disorganized.
		It's not chaotic.
		This is quite organized.
		It's an organized invasion of your country, and it's being financed by the globalists.
		The UN Compact on Migration.
		Remember the very first time we had Oscar Blue Ramirez in the middle of a jungle, dangerous jungle?
		And what is he telling you?
		You've got to read this thing.
		It all comes from there.
		And this is the financing arm of it.
		It's the financing arm.
		Your money.
		I want folks down in Rio Grande Valley.
		I want folks in Star County, Texas.
		97% Hispanic that voted for President Trump by 16%.
		We won.
		I want you to embrace the fact that your government is the one that's brought this invasion into your home.
		Short commercial break.
		We're going to return to USAID in a moment.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back.
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		A little turbulent.
		The Chinese Communist Party came back tonight and said, hey, guess what?
		President Trump, we ain't Mexico and we ain't Canada.
unidentified		We're...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		An ancient civilization, been around for 10,000 years.
		You hit us with a tariff, guess what?
		We can punch back, and we're going to punch back.
		Jack Basova's going to join us.
		As we know, remember, we're the leaders of the anti-CCP movement.
		They're tough hombres.
		They're a group of criminals in Beijing.
		They've killed over 250 million Chinese.
		Chinese.
		You think they're just going to sit there and take these tariffs from President Trump?
		Now, we're in it.
		Because these brothers came back, and they're coming back up in our grill.
		Which is fine.
		Let's get it all on the table.
		Right?
		Let's get it on the table.
		Mexico flinched.
		The Canadians flinched.
		Got 30 days, but they're going to work.
		What are we talking about?
		It's the chemical warfare.
		This is the second opium war.
		The British, they wouldn't take any of the British goods.
		When the British came from India, the Chinese said, hey, look, no offense.
		This stuff's not that important.
		We're China.
		You're not.
		We don't want any of it.
		They said, hey, we got to get in here.
		It's the biggest market in the world.
		How do we get in here?
		Oh, I got away.
		We make this thing up in India, I think they'll take it.
		Right?
		Opium.
		Almost destroyed Chinese civilization.
		That's how the Brits roll, just saying.
		That's how they roll.
		And now you're getting a second, this is a chemical war.
		We're losing 100,000 people a year, and the cost of the zombies that are left, that are destroyed by this drug, I don't know, they're saying the number could be a trillion dollars.
		This is a war.
		It's a chemical war against the United States coming up with cartels of the partners through Mexico, also through Canada.
		So president of stopping there, but the railhead of that is the Chinese Communist Party, and they think they're winning.
		It's unrestricted warfare.
		Part of this is the invasion of the southern border.
		Ben Burkham, I know you've got to go back on these raids.
		Get us up to date on the ICE raids quickly, and then tell me.
		You've been down there.
		You've spent so many years down in the Darien Gap.
		How angry do you get, sir?
		When you realize USAID, and hat tip to Elon Musk and his team for going in there finally, and MTG, who's on the Doge subcommittee, saying, hey, I'm putting legislation for it.
		We're going to shut it down.
		We're not going to roll up under Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
		We're shutting it down.
		Ben Berquam.
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, we're out.
		The raids, or the operations, excuse me, they want me to clarify their operations.
		ICE operations continue.
		Behind me, you've got the Elizabeth facility.
		This place is filled to the brim, over 300 being held right now.
		They typically hold them for about 72 hours, and they try to move them out of here.
		But just to give you an idea of the numbers we're talking about, I was just with New York doing some operations this morning.
		And in New York alone, there are 58,000 criminal illegal aliens that ICE is going after in an office about the size of 250 people.
		They're going after 58,000 people.
		There are already 100,000 illegals in New York City alone that are already set for deportation.
		They just have to go find these guys.
		There's over 700,000 illegals in New York City who are on the docket to be gone after.
		And again, this is the tip of the iceberg in what we're talking about.
		And all while this is happening, while we're putting the tourniquet on the leg.
		We're stopping the bleeding.
		President Trump and Tom Homan are stopping the bleeding.
		As you said, we were coming through the Darien Gap, and I couldn't believe the numbers.
		And I'm like, where are these people coming from?
		This was the three-legged stool we were talking about, Steve.
		This was part of that funding arm.
		And so you had the cartels, you had these leftist NGOs, and you had the politicians behind them running, funneling money through these.
		And it was a direct operation between Secretary Marcus, Homeland Security, Secretary Blinken, Department of State, and these controlled flow and these welcoming centers all the way up through.
		We're in Costa Rica.
		We went from Panama to Costa Rica.
		All of these places had signs, as you were mentioning, the last guest had on.
		There were signs celebrating this, showing them the routes, showing them the journey.
		And by the way, all of those routes, you have to pay the cartel as well.
		So we're taking our U.S. tax dollars, we're handing it to illegals to invade our country, who then are selling themselves off to the cartel as well.
		This was not accidental.
		This was not...
		By happenstance, this was well-controlled with our tax dollars, and it caused the devastation that we're seeing today.
		The reason why there are so many illegals, criminal illegals, and why it's so difficult now to go and apprehend these guys for ICE is because of the millions that they brought in under USAID. The engine room has just informed me they like this.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They like the line diagram.
		What they're recommending to Elon and the team, we'll make sure we get to them, they said, trace out all the money.
		What Taunton and Burquan were talking about, they want to see a line diagram, right, to see where the cash flows, they want to see and put it by date and what happened at the border and people come across with their caravans.
		Trace it all.
		Expose every agency, every person, every company, every bus, air, food, shelter, all of it.
		And we can get down.
		Elon's promising us.
		Committed that they can track every dollar with OMB and Treasury?
		Baby, this is the type of thing.
		We want radical transparency.
		You pay for it, you should understand it.
		Correct?
		You pay for it, you should understand it.
		If it's going to good things, people are going to be fine.
		If it's behind the door and all you're seeing them all night, they're up there with the big crocodile tears.
		This is all for water development projects in sub-Saharan Africa.
		Hey.
		It's doing one of three things.
		It's either a cutout of the Central Intelligence Agency to put their web everywhere, or it's coming back, as Ben shows you, it's coming back to go into suppression of conservative voices with the oligarchs that they made a deal with, the suppression of the information on Facebook and Google and all that, or it's going to invade your country.
		Are any of those three good?
		No.
		They're 0 for 3. Shut it down.
		MTG's already put forward.
		Working on legislation, she's announced it.
		Burkwamp, we're going to let you go back to your operations.
		We won't call them raids.
		We'll call them operations.
		We appreciate the fact you don't have one on your hip and you don't have your vest on and you're not going to shoot any goats.
		Can you give us your social...
		Can you give us your social media?
		Rob Sigg said no shooting goats, no shooting dogs.
		Can you give your social media?
		One thing I do want to say, though.
		The men and women of DHS, people should understand one thing.
		In these sanctuary cities, and we have not Lance DeBoer, I know President Trump, you've got to get Pam Bonney in there to do it, and we'll both.
		But these are still administrative warrants.
		You're still going up and knocking on our door and saying, pretty please, right?
		In these sanctuary cities, everybody...
		I want to mark every sanctuary city.
		In L.A., hey, as much as that problem's out there and it's horrible and those people need aid, they just passed, the legislators just passed a bill, $50 million to resist Trump, all things Trump.
		$50 million is going to go also to sanctuary cities.
		Here's the bottom line.
		You're going to resist.
		You're going to have sanctuary cities.
		Here's how much money you're going to get.
		Zero.
		Cut them off, choke them off of money.
		This is what Elon Musk, I think, is doing so great.
		The engineer says they want to see where every penny went, every bus company, every transportation, all the food, where it went, what country, and particularly these charities because, hey, as a Catholic, Catholic charity is taking money from these guys and happening the invasion.
		They should be part of the criminal investigation and throw the bishops in there for good measure.
		Okay, let's throw them in there and see how they like it.
		Burquan, where do people go to track you down?
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and throw in there, Steve, the politicians that were signing off on this, we need investigations to find out how many of them were criminally involved with the cartels as well, HIAS, all of these organizations, absolutely.
		And you're right, we need to...
		Take this fight back to the sanctuary cities.
		We need to defund them, and we need ICE to be able to go right into the jails, right into the prisons, and get these guys.
		Right now, they're not able to do that.
		They're fighting this war with their hands tied behind their backs.
		We've got to unleash these guys to be able to do their job.
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		But this is just the beginning.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Other folks in the industry are telling me the intentional destruction of a republic.
		Foster facilitated finance by your taxpayer dollars through NGOs.
		A nihilistic Marxist color revolution here in the United States.
		Financed by our own hand we are smitten.
		Remember this.
		By our own hand we've been struck.
		Once an eagle.
		The Persians are pretty far ahead.
		I think this saying is 3,000 years old.
		They got it.
		Why?
		Most of the times, countries take themselves down from the inside.
		What's the pledge you take to the Constitution?
		All enemies, foreign and domestic.
		I think we're seeing a lot of domestic enemies here, folks.
		Just saying.
		Radical transparency.
		We want it all up.
		We want to declassify all of it up.
		Radical transparency.
		Radical transparency.
		And then we'll see where the...
		Cards fault.
		Ben Berkman, thank you.
		Larry Taunton, I want to have you back on about this too, particularly to play some of your footage.
		Where do people go to find out everything about your journey, the years you spent in the Darien Gap, and your understanding and knowledge about USAID as the financier of the invasion of our country, sir?
unidentified		Well, Steve, we will love this.
		They can find me at my podcast, Ideas Have Consequences.
		And they can also find me on social media, at Larry Taunton on Twitter.
		And Steve can offer you a little historical note regarding Greenland.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Yes.
		FDR recognized the Danish ambassador to the United States, Henrik Kaufman, as the head of the Danish government.
		And in return for that recognition, he said, we want bases.
		In Greenland.
		And the Danes have been trying to get rid of that base ever since, and they've never been able to do it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Well, I think there's a new day dawning in Greenland.
		This is the Monroe Doctrine 2.0, Fortress America.
		It's a Mahanian strategy after Admiral Mahan, or Mahanian strategy.
		It goes from the Panama Canal.
		It cuts off the Russian Navy, the Russian particularly fast attack and ballistic missile submarines coming through the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap, and it gives us the base to work out of for the new great game.
		That's the Arctic.
		Larry, where do people go one more time to get the podcast, your website, social media, all of it?
unidentified		Ideas have consequences.
		You can find on Rumble, YouTube, and on my Twitter account, at Larry Taunton.
		That's T-A-U-N. T-O-N on Twitter.
		Steve, great to be with you.
		Thanks for having me.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Always great, brother.
		Great work.
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		It's been a hedge.
		Gold's been a hedge for 5,000 years of man's recorded history.
		There's pattern recognition there if you focus.
		Short break.
		Poso.
		Natalie Winters next in the worm.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
unidentified		Okay, welcome back up.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Poso's with us.
		Poso, the Chinese Communist Party, she put out that he ain't Mexico and he ain't Canada.
		They're China.
		And if you want to go for it, go for it.
		But they're going to dig down on this thing.
		You're going to bury in.
		Because they're already at war with us anyway.
		Unrestricted warfare, right?
		They've been at war.
		Been at a people's war since May of 19. Your thoughts, brother, on...
		We've got so much to talk about, but I need to do China and BB with you this morning.
		What do you got for me on China?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, there's a couple of ways to look at this.
		Xi Jinping saying we're not China, we're not Mexico, essentially.
		That's actually a bunch of bull because Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party are the trade from China and Mexico because we know what they're doing.
		They're exploiting the loopholes in the USMCA. Yes, there were worse loopholes in NAFTA, but the loopholes with the...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hold it, hold it, hold it.
unidentified		Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Slow down, slow down.
		You mean Canada.
		You keep saying China.
		You're saying that the fold...
		Canada and Mexico are China.
		Right.
		Canada and Mexico.
unidentified		Okay, so you're saying she's saying, hey...
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		And the Fentanyl's from China, right?
		Yes, the Fentanyl's from China, but I'm also talking about the goods in general in the trade war.
		So when you're talking about these auto parts that are getting made in Mexico, they're not being made in Mexico.
		They're made in China.
		They go to Mexico.
		They get assembled a little bit.
		Boom.
		You get a Mexico country of origin standpoint, but we know it's not actually Mexico.
		It's actually coming from a Chinese firm, in some cases, even with Chinese workers.
		And you see this in Canada as well.
		They were doing this with the steel.
		They were dumping the cheap steel in, but it was processed.
		And Lighthizer knew all this, by the way.
		Lighthizer knew exactly what was going on, and that's what he was working to backstop on.
		So when it comes to China, that's what the whole trade war is about.
		But the dirty little secret is this.
		And the war room understands this because the war room has been focused on this for a long time.
		And if you go all the way back to when I did Chronicles of the Revolution, we explained this.
		And even in the China files, we explained this two years ago, three years ago now.
		The fight of the trade war is not between the U.S. and China.
		The fight of this trade war is between the Trump administration and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
		Because the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, in their mouthpiece, the Wall Street Journal, has four decades.
		Decades had a deal that they made with the Chinese Communist Party going all the way back to the days of Tiananmen Square and the blood-soaked streets to say, here's how it's going to work.
		We are going to be the international...
		We are going to be the foreign-directed investment.
		We are going to be the IP. We are going to use that to go into China, set up the firms and the JVs with you, the joint ventures, and then you will be the world factory.
		And the world factory comes out of China exploiting the slave labor of the Lao Bajing and the Chinese people, undercutting all American workers.
		That's where the fulcrum is.
		So publicly you see China, U.S., China, U.S., but understand, this is the Complete underpinnings of the system of globalization.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		President Trump has been the most adamant president we've ever had of taking on the Chinese Communist Party.
		And the first trip Secretary of State took was to Panama to say, hey, guess what?
		We're taking our canal back.
		We're kicking out Hutchinson-Wampoa that does all the stevedore work, and we're going to kick out the Chinese Communist Party from buying off the elites down in Panama.
		Jack, I know you've got to bounce.
		One thing, I want to go to Tulsi Gabbard.
		Two things.
		Number one, we're reporting the three largest pharmaceutical companies, Moderna, GSK, and Pfizer by market cap, are crashing right now because of Bobby Kennedy's approval.
		Thank you very much, Warren Posse, and Mike Davis' Article 3 group.
		Tulsi Gabbard, we're hearing Todd Young is in.
		Poso, you've been working this one big.
		Why is that a massive win, sir?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, this is a massive win because Todd Young, he had some concerns.
		He had some interesting conversation topics that he wanted to make over the weekend.
		And so a conversation was had.
		And I'm pleased to see that Todd Young is doing the right thing for the people of the United States and certainly for the people of his constituency there in Indiana.
		And so when it comes down to it, Steve, this...
		This could potentially be the largest.
		You think USAID was big?
		Imagine what happens when Tulsi Gabbard starts looking into the guts of what's going on down in the bowels of the intelligence community.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Any truth?
		Before you go, any truth to the rumor?
		There's rumors going around that Jack Posobiec may be going back to do what he did as a naval officer's intelligence work.
		Any truth to that rumor?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, all I can say is I love what I do, but if President Trump were to call on me, I would certainly take that call.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Poso, where do they go to get the show this afternoon?
		Tulsi's hearing will be exactly during Jack Posobiec's show.
		Also will be teeing up BB coming at 4 o'clock to have a strategic meeting with President Trump, and then at 5 o'clock press conference we'll cover that live.
		Jack, where do people go?
		Your Twitter feed, as always, is on fire.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Of course, we'll be up on Twitter at Jack Posobiec all hours of the night.
		Todd Young is following us now, so make sure you get a chance to check out what Todd Young is reading.
		And also, of course, at 2 p.m.
		today, we will be showing the confirmation vote for the next director of national intelligence, Lieutenant Colonel Tulsi Gabbard.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Lieutenant Colonel Tulsi Gabbard.
		She's going to get approved this afternoon.
		Posso, great work.
		This one, you had so much to do with it.
		Just fantastic work.
		Great work.
		Jack Pasovic, extraordinary.
		Joined by our White House correspondent.
		There's so much going on in the White House.
		I'll let you take it.
		Tell me what's going on.
		You've got inside scoop on everything.
		We're going to hear from those guys later about the perspective on China.
		This China thing is a massive deal.
		President Trump has already put out, I think, the White House has already put out, that they're going to have, she and Trump are going to have a follow-on phone call, I think, in the next couple of weeks.
		Sure.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I want to walk through what you guys are talking about with USAID, because I think that has sort of become the railhead, much like the FBI purge, of really deconstructing the administrative state, which we're seeing.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the deep state.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is far as the administrative state.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And it's not just happening in like 1.5 times speed.
		It's happening in like 3 times speed.
		And it's glorious to see, especially from the White House lawn.
		But to that point...
		A few days before President Trump was sworn in, Norm Eisen, the whole sort of lawfare brigade, they put out the third edition of what's called the Democracy Playbook, which comes from the Brookings Institution.
		And if you sort of go back to the core thesis of this show, I think really it emanated from Darren Beattie.
		Congratulations to Darren.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Undersecretary Darren Beattie.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sorry.
		It's the first time.
		That was sort of the theory of the case, that all of the tactics that they had used for color revolutions abroad, they were sort of turning the guns inward, circular, and now using it to bring about this idea that we have, quote, democratic backsliding, and therefore we need to get rid of President Trump because he's an autocrat, right?
		So they put out this new edition, this third edition, and proving our point.
		It is now entirely focused on how to push back against President Trump and domestic political forces.
		But I want to get even more granular here.
		Because if you look at the verticals through which they have tried to push back against President Trump, and we were remarking on this yesterday, it's Jamie Raskin groveling on the steps of USAID, right?
		They don't have any levers of power.
		Yeah, it's lame.
		It's pathetic.
		But here's the thing.
		Democracy Forward, which was sort of the apparatus, the compendium of all of these resistance groups, you know, 120-plus organizations, the one outfit that they set up prior to President Trump being sworn in was something called Civil Service Strong.
		And it was the idea that they were going to provide legal aid and resources to whistleblowers.
		Sort of, I think, a shadow impeachment, right?
		They can't impeach President Trump right now, but they're laying the groundwork or they're trying to sort of...
		Do it indirectly.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They want to build the case and have the resistance off that.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		And USAID was the linchpin on all of that.
		Why do I say that?
		Because it's mentioned dozens of times in the Democracy Playbook, so much so that I want to read you a quote from it.
		Talking about how USAID is essentially the linchpin in funding what they say civil society, the media, which is the only way they can push back.
		An important component of deterrence by denial is a robust and empowered independent media able to investigate, watchdog and hold violators to account.
		Therefore, part of the deterrence strategy should include increased governmental resources and an expansion of programs and agencies to support a sustained and top-level commitment to support free media.
		This should include supporting independent investigative consortiums.
		Such as the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, which has been funded in part by the U.S. Agency for International Development, the State Department, and private foundations.
		And to that point, the co-author of this report, well, he also happens to be or was formerly the co-chair of the political, economic, trade, and development working groups for the EU, Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia, Poland, and Romania.
		So you see how this all runs together.
		And most importantly, Steve, What they talk about in terms of political opposition groups, which is their second priority, and all of this, the first one being securing elections.
		I think we know that's a little bit of projection.
		They talk about wanting to foster alliances internationally, form networks between other opposition groups, electoral activists, civil society groups, and where appropriate, international organizations and actors.
		So what did we say when we sat here on election night?
		They will outsource their opposition internationally because they have no foothold here and we have gutted their censorship industrial complex.
		And the fact that we are now removing these people forcibly...
		From these buildings where that was how they were going to have their resistance, by leaking and being whistleblowers, we have deprived them.
		Of that ability, and that is why they're melting down.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Go back to this.
		It's very important what Elon's team is doing, cutting off the emails, cutting out the access.
		Go back to physically making sure the buildings are hermetically sealed.
		Because these guys have been working from home, but they want access to all that.
		To cut them off gives them their power to leak and to get to the washer.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		You can't whistleblow if you don't have the whistle, right?
		And to that point, you're already seeing what?
		what every night on MSNBC you have another so-called whistleblower a former now fired government employee whether it was the inspector generals whether it was the FBI people the DOJ people all going on there now make no mistake those people wanted to make their MSNBC primetime debut but they wanted to be doing it where the chiron would still.
		They'd still have that title, and they'd be actively leaking against President Trump.
		But they now no longer have that ability.
		And like I said, I think this democracy playbook, right, the idea of Norm Eisen, who Norm Eisen in concert with Mark Zaid, who was the lawyer for the first impeachment inquiry, it's all the same people who want to be impeaching President Trump right now.
		But they can't because they don't have the power.
		And now they're being stripped of any ability to sort of carry out what I guess they accuse us of having a shadow government, a shadow impeachment.
		In reality, that's what they've been trying to do.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Unbelievable.
		Marjorie Taylor Greene has just put forward, she's going to come forward with legislation.
		To take it down, this whole roll-up under Rubio, right now, from the White House perspective, they're shutting this thing down, right?
		They're going to zero this out and never let this happen again, correct?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		They're subsuming it, as they should, and I think that they're doing it through...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You think it's the easiest way to subsume it under state and then wind it down?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, just like CISA, USAID, I would completely get rid of it, salt the earth around it while we're at it, but I think it's just important, the paradigm through which we get rid of it.
		We're not getting rid of it because we think foreign aid...
		Hate is a waste and it's, oh, we're supporting the musicals in Nigeria for transgenders.
		That's cool.
		We can stop that too.
		But we're talking about funding bioweapons programs in hostile foreign countries.
		That's the crux of it, right?
		That's what we want to get to the deep, dark underbelly of.
		We want to audit the Ukraine aid, what, the 77 million, the outstanding 170 billion?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I only saw 77 billion.
		You've got to admire his chutzpah, right?
		He knows the audit's coming.
		And he says, I only got 77 billion.
		What are you guys whining about?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we're going to take the performative activism from Zelensky.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		By the way, a massive criminal investigation about this entire network, both the domestic and funding.
		You just heard the Darien Gap part.
		This has to be...
		Line item out.
		We need to know where every penny went.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		The group that MSNBC is highlighting just two nights ago, advising illegal aliens on how to avoid ICE agents and telling them to lie to them.
		They've received over $16 million in government grants.
		It's a hotbed of corruption and destruction of this country.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And malfeasance.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		And it's intentional.
		It's not an accident.
		And that's what the USAID paradigm shift is about.
		This is intentional.
		It's not incompetence.
		It's not just waste, fraud, and abuse.
		It's the destruction, intentional destruction of this country.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		White House correspondent is with us this morning.
		We're going to take a short commercial break.
		Birch Gold, you had enough turbulence.
		The big three big pharma stocks, I don't know if they're going to be advertised on MSNBC before.
		That didn't help them much.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		No one watches anyways.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		Two-thirds of the audience gone because they lied to them.
		Bobby Kennedy, out of committee.
		Two o'clock today, Tulsi Gabbard, Todd Young, out of committee.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You've done so much work on the Chinese Communist Party.
		I know the White House is getting a response and they're already putting out that President Trump's going to talk to.
		But there's a big difference in doing Mexico and putting tariffs on Mexico, putting tariffs on Canada, using a national emergency proclamation, which they had to do at this time, then going after the CCP. What sense, since you've got so many, you've got Waltz as a hawk, Rubio as a hawk, Navarro as a hawk.
		Besson's kind of a hawk, about as big a hawk as you can get on Wall Street.
		What's your sense of how this is going to play out since you've done so much about the infiltration of the CCP here in the United States, particularly the business communities lighting up the phones over the White House saying, President Trump, you've got to go easy on Xi.
		What's your thinking so far?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Well, I feel like for so long the term China Hawk was sort of used as like a limited hangout or cover for kind of more establishment Republicans who knew it was a less controversial issue that they could sort of galvanize the base around because everyone hates the Chinese Communist Party, but they never actually did anything.
		And as someone who has covered this beat for years now, Chinese Communist Party infiltration emanating out of the United Front Work Department, a multi-billion dollar political warfare operation designed to destroy this country through infiltration as opposed to invasion.
		I've never seen anything like this in terms of actually taking on the Chinese Communist Party in a substantive way.
		Now, how does it play out?
		We're sort of in uncharted territory and uncharted waters because I think the fact that I'm sitting here, the fact that I made it to become your co-host is a testament to how much Chinese Communist Party infiltration there was for me to expose.
		And I'm not just talking members of Congress.
		People, you know, career servants, all that stuff.
		I'm talking all the way down to, you know, congressional staffers, irrelevant people.
		So you want to talk about the big pharma campaign that's being mounted against RFK? It pales in comparison to the China stuff.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The lords of easy money, Larry Fink in that crowd on Wall Street.
		You've got the entire Silicon Valley crowd, all the corporatists, Hollywood.
		This is everybody.
		They're blowing up Trump's phone and every lobbyist is calling him.
		What are you doing?
		You can't do this.
		It's going to tank the market.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		But this is economic warfare.
		That President Trump is waging on behalf of the American people, as opposed to, frankly, A, managed decline, but B, economic warfare being waged against the American people.
		And it's a paradigm shift, and I don't think people understand how truly momentous it is to be.
		We're talking about 25% tariffs against the Chinese Communist Party who, what, just a few weeks ago had someone in the White House that they could get anything they wanted out of.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Incredible.
		And, of course, China's pushing back.
		This is going to be a throwdown, President Trump.
		And, look, President Trump has to balance a lot of things.
		You know, here we're proud to be leaders of the anti-CCP movement.
		He's got to balance a lot of stuff, and he's the economy, the whole corporate environment.
		But this is the beginning of how we can start to expose it and unwind it.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		But I also think he has an extremely wonderful team, and I think that is the juxtaposition.
		Every person who is in leadership in every department or every agency, they are empowered actors, and they're, for lack of a better word, not to be reductive, they're really based.
		And they're really operating on all cylinders, and it's amazing to see.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Last question.
		As we scale this up, because, you know, Elon's doing the line diagrams.
		He's finding out kind of in his mind how this thing works.
		You've had USAID, but you've got the feckless house that's talking about $300 billion over 10 years.
		That's a non-starter.
		I've talked to you guys behind the scenes.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		In a strongly worded letter.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Strongly worded letter.
		And also with the deportations, those things, the deportations, the three things you've got to work on.
		End the kinetic wars.
		You've heard Zelensky saying, hey, I only got $77 billion.
		That thing's a joke.
		Beebe's here today for the Middle East war.
		The two things, ramping up actually on the ice side, on scale, and also having a realistic conversation.
		Where do you think the White House is going in this?
		Give me a minute on that.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think Congress is sort of just drifting off of what...
		I mean, they had a chance to actually stand in the breach.
		And I think that's sort of the paradigm to view it through, is that the White House is actively creating these news cycles through shows of force and confidence, right?
		They have the nerve to take on the FBI. To subsume USAID, probably the most entrenched representation of the ossified deep state that exists in the entirety of this town.
		It's not like they just said, hey, we think we're going to review your funding.
		They said, no, you're done.
		Go home.
		I mean, that is paradigm shifting.
		Frankly, paradigm ending.
		And I'm so glad Congress now wants to hold their stupid little hearings.
		That's besides the point.
		Our audience is the one filling the gap in terms of getting these confirmations through, and it's the White House that is ahead on all things messaging.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Tim Pool tonight, what time?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Tim Pool tonight at, I believe, 8 p.m.
unidentified		Eastern.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I will be there.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		If I make it back, I'll be back at the White House.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Stop.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We always send security with her to make sure she comes back from Spahn Ranch.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I think we might need extra security this time.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the last broadcast I'm going to do from West Virginia.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It seems to me he's sending a message that he's not going to be in West Virginia long.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I love West Virginia.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		We should move.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Maybe take the compound over.
		Maybe not.
		Social media.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to see you in the skate park.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		Social media.
		You're not supposed to bust my chops here.
		Social media.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Is that why I have my job?
		Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.
		I've been told I'm controversial.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Controversial?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You're the lead story in the South China Morning Post this morning.
unidentified		I chuckled at that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		My favorite paper.
		You knew I was going to see that.
		Natalie's leading the South China Morning Post.
		And listen, you're throwing down hard.
		There's no backup with these people.
		No backup down to these people.
		You continue to throw down hard.
		You're Natalie Winters, University of Chicago.
		Worked with us since an intern, 18. Mike Lindell, we're going to end today by the mega mega sales off.
		You're going to sell me a pillow.
		What else?
		What are you going to sell today, sir?
mike lindell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what we want to do today, some of the mega sales are still on the site if you go down to mypillow.com.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, brother.
		Mike Lindell.
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unidentified		What a day to leave you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Tom Wolfe's classic, kind of the modern non-fiction, The Right Stuff, led to a magnificent masterpiece movie by Philip Kaufman and an amazing score that won the Academy Award by Mr. Conte.
		The Right Stuff.
		Today we got it.
		Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard crossed the finish line.
		We'll be back with the President's press conference at 5 p.m.
		Eastern Standard Time.

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