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Jan. 31, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4234: Attacks On Trump's Nominees
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unidentified
Russian tanks were rolling across the peaceful border of Ukraine for the first time.
You tweeted at 11.30 p.m.
your time.
This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden administration slash NATO had simply acknowledged Russia's legitimate...
Legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine's becoming a member of NATO. Did you say that, yes or no?
I believe you're reading my tweet, Senator.
Yes, is the answer.
A few months later, you said on your podcast, and I quoted it, quote, but this regime change war against Russia that the U.S. and NATO are waging via their proxy in Ukraine.
Didn't begin when Putin invaded Ukraine.
They had their eyes set on this objective long before that.
Did you say that, yes or no?
I believe you're reading my tweet.
Thank you.
The answer is yes.
You're quoting a podcast that provided much more context.
I'm happy to have a conversation with the chairman about whether I'm taking anything out of context.
I don't think I am.
And your answer is yes.
robert f kennedy-jr
The findings of the government oversight investigation committee.
I investigated CDC's vaccine program in 2003. Senator Burton was chairman of that committee.
And he said that certain individuals in that program had written off a generation of kids because of, quote, misplaced institutional loyalty to the CDC and because of entanglements with the drug company.
But I am pro-vaccine.
I am going to support the vaccine program.
I want kids to be healthy.
And I'm coming in here to get rid of the conflicts of interest within the agency, to make sure that we have gold-standard evidence-based science.
And if you show me where I'm wrong on this, show me a single statement I've made about science that is erroneous.
unidentified
Which is interesting, because here's what you told Steve Bannon on his podcast.
So what we thought would be cool is if we captured that audio...
And then, of course, had the greatest president, President Donald J. Trump, recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
Then we went to a studio and recorded it, mastered it, digitized it, and put it out as a song now releasing exclusively on the war room.
We, we, we.
If you had nothing to do with it, Mr. Patel, why did you tell Steve Bannon and all his listeners that you did?
That's why it says we, as you highlighted.
Yeah, and you're part of the we, right?
When you say we, that includes you, doesn't it, Mr. Patel?
Not in every instance.
Well, that's new.
So when you said we, you didn't really mean you.
Is that your testimony?
Not unless you have a new definition for the word we.
Oh, okay.
I always thought we included the person who pronounced the word.
There's multiple studies establishing the safety of measles and hepatitis B vaccine, and specifically that they are not a cause of autism.
In this position, and you have previously said yes, but if you are approved to this position, will you reassure mothers unequivocally and without qualification that the will you reassure mothers unequivocally and without qualification that the measles and hepatitis B vaccines do not cause autism?
robert f kennedy-jr
Senator, I am not going into the agency with any...
unidentified
That's kind of a yes or no question.
Because the data is there.
And that's kind of a yes or no.
And I don't mean to cut you off, but that really is a yes or no.
robert f kennedy-jr
If the data is there, I will absolutely do that.
unidentified
Now, there is the data just because I used to do hepatitis B, as I've said.
I know the data is there.
robert f kennedy-jr
Well, then I will be the first person.
If you show me data, I will be the first person.
To assure the American people that they need to take those vaccines.
unidentified
Now, what concerns me is that you've cast doubt on some of these vaccines recently.
I mean, like the last few years.
But the data, and I can quote some of it, the data has been there for a long time.
I've been out of the game.
I've been in Congress for 16 years.
And this data was in large measure generated before I came to Congress.
So my concern is that...
If you were making those claims and being so influential, I mean, your bully pup is incredible.
With that responsibility that you never acquainted yourself with anything that might contradict that which you were previously saying.
So let me ask once more.
If the data is brought to you, and these studies that have been out there for quite some time and have been peer-reviewed, and it shows that these two vaccines are not associated with autism, will you ask, no, I need even more?
Or will you say, no, I see this, it's stood the test of time, and I unequivocally and without qualification say that this does not cause autism?
robert f kennedy-jr
Not only will I do that, but I will apologize for any statements that misled people otherwise.
unidentified
Thank you.
Next.
robert f kennedy-jr
I just want to pledge to you that I will never stick on a point if somebody shows me data that says I'm wrong.
I know that's an interpretation people have, but it's absolutely wrong.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
It's Thursday, 30 January, Year of Our Lord, 2025. What a day.
Wow.
Where to start?
Where we're going to start is Mary Holland is back.
We asked her yesterday and she came back.
She was good for her word.
Mary Holland, Children of Health Defense.
Were you enthusiastic yesterday or were you just patting us on the head and making us feel better?
Did Bobby Kennedy get chopped up today or did he hold his own?
unidentified
Listen, the intent was to chop him up both days.
steve bannon
It's pretty intense, do you agree?
unidentified
It's very intense, both days.
steve bannon
Some of the questions were brutal and tough.
unidentified
They were tough, but I think he held his own.
I don't think we expected it to be pretty.
It's a confirmation, no confirmation.
That's the whole issue, right?
steve bannon
You're saying the game is up or down.
unidentified
The game is up or down, and I think it's going to be up.
Now, you mentioned to me, Cassidy, the chairman, and that he was negative.
steve bannon
Hang on before we get there.
It's not just up or down.
It's up or down where you get through.
But when I hear Bobby Kennedy sitting there and going, I'm pro-vaccine, and they're also what they're trying to do.
If they can't remove them, they want to narrow their options.
Look, Bobby Kennedy, we're a right-wing audience.
And our audience, by and large, loves Bobby Kennedy because he's a fighter.
He's a fighter.
This whole make America healthy again has hit a chord, a deep chord in people.
I agree with that.
unidentified
They're going to try to box him in.
I think he didn't take the bait on a lot of those yes-no questions that take a lot of nuance and long conversations.
And I think he has to come in saying, I'm going to accept the way HHS is today, but I'm going to bring radical transparency and gold standard science.
Once he does that, Steve, he brings transparency and science, he's going to make changes based on that.
But he has to say, and he has to actually take actions to accept what he's walking into.
So I don't know that he's going to, it's not going to be static to change things.
He's going to, to make people healthy again, he's going to have to make major changes.
But he has to say, walking in the door, he respects what his predecessors have done for many years.
steve bannon
For our audience, it's so obvious to me that Big Pharma owns this city.
And you just see it come through.
And what's interesting, they have a raw hatred for Bobby Kennedy, like they have for Trump.
On different issues.
But they don't hate Tulsi.
They don't hate Cash.
They dislike him.
They want to stop him.
There's a visceral...
They are incensed by Bobby Kennedy.
Am I wrong in that?
unidentified
Oh, I think you're right about that.
And as we said yesterday, you know, seven pharma lobbyists for one member of Congress.
So, yeah, they're out for him because he does threaten the pharmaceutical medical complex.
No question about that.
He's going to open the books.
The books have been closed.
Pharma gives the documents that they want to the FDA and the CDC. FDA, CDC don't do their own original science.
NIH gets royalties when they work with pharma.
They get a lot of their budget from pharma directly.
So, yeah, Bobby is very threatening to the pharmaceutical complex.
They don't like him.
steve bannon
Let's talk about the process today.
We have to have committee votes out of finance and health and human services today.
Where do we stand on those?
You're the whip here for Bobby Kennedy, right?
unidentified
Well, no.
I'm at an independent organization, but he founded us.
steve bannon
But your accountant knows us.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm counting noses.
steve bannon
You guys packed.
The thing was impressive.
unidentified
Well, it's the movement.
We had thousands of people here in the last two days.
steve bannon
And you have these mothers.
The article today.
I think in the Federalist, if I'm correct, or the Free Press, one of them, that says the most powerful new force in American politics is these moms of the Make America Healthy Again, that you've totally changed the dynamic.
unidentified
That's as it should be, Steve.
And in fact, Cassidy said, and Bobby said, this is a transcendent, powerful movement.
And it crosses party lines.
It is a movement across all kinds of demographics.
And it's exciting, because it really is about positive change.
Who can be against people being healthy?
steve bannon
Okay, who?
unidentified
Well, pharmaceutical.
steve bannon
I got a couple of them today.
They were coming at this guy like they were trying to kill him.
unidentified
Sick people are very profitable.
Healthy people are not profitable.
Pharma knows that very well.
Bobby Kennedy knows that very well.
So yeah, they don't like him.
And it was as nasty as I fully expected it to be.
steve bannon
So you admit it was nasty.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely it was nasty.
But one of the important things on this pharma issue is Bobby did push back against Bernie Sanders and say, Bernie, you're taking money from pharma.
You're taking a lot of money.
He didn't like that one bit.
steve bannon
Let's do the head count on finance.
And Cassidy's the swing guy here, isn't he?
unidentified
Yeah, Cassidy's very powerful right now because Cassidy, the only vote that counts is the Finance Committee.
And on the Finance Committee, Cassidy's vote is critical.
steve bannon
Why do you say the only vote that counts is the Finance Committee?
unidentified
The help committee was a courtesy hearing.
It was not a voting committee.
So today was a courtesy, and a lot more senators got direct exposure.
They went on the record.
But the only vote that counts is yesterday.
Cassidy's on that committee.
steve bannon
If he doesn't vote, you've lost the committee.
unidentified
They need Cassidy's vote on the finance committee.
I do believe that he's a traditional physician who left private practice 16 years ago.
It makes perfect sense to me that he has absorbed the narrative of mainstream medicine.
Vaccines are safe and effective.
Vaccines save lives.
He needs to talk more with Bobby to get comfort with Bobby that Bobby is not going to take people's vaccines away.
He comes, he gave a speech today about hepatitis B.
He was a liver specialist.
Is following the narrative of mainstream medicine.
But I think he is movable.
I think he wanted to put those reservations on the record.
But I hope and I do believe that he will support President Trump's nominee for his cabinet.
steve bannon
Numbers 202-224-3121.
We have work to do today on all three nominees.
But make sure you call and you should direct your call to Cassidy.
Senator Cassidy's office and let them know that you support.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. We're going to get into Tulsi and cash a little later in the show, but all these hang in the balance.
They can all get across if we have a big, massive grassroots uprising saying President Trump deserves his candidates.
When you just said there, Bob, you sounded like the old Bobby Kennedy.
That wasn't the Bobby Kennedy we saw up there.
You wouldn't think the guy ever questioned a vaccine in his life.
By the answers.
unidentified
Steve, if you've read the four books that he wrote while he was in Children's Health Defense, you know this guy questions vaccines.
And you know that he's talking about radical transparency, gold standard science.
steve bannon
Didn't he say in here he's pro-vaccine today?
I'm just asking a simple question.
unidentified
Yes, he said that, Steve.
And I think he has always said, I'm not anti-vaccine, and if it really makes me healthy, I'm the first one who's going to take it.
If the benefits overwhelmingly outweigh the risk, I'm the first one in line.
He's never abandoned that statement.
Once people know the real science and there's real transparency, I assure you, a lot of people are going to change their minds.
steve bannon
Can you stay through the break?
Yeah, sure.
We're kind of jammed for time.
Is Maha, Make America Healthy Again, is it a modern grassroots uprising of potentially mothers?
Yes.
Or is it a cult?
unidentified
No.
This is decades in the making, Steve.
I've been a part of this movement for 20 years.
This is a long-term grassroots movement that is finally getting a moment in the sun.
This is not going away, and this is a powerful movement.
steve bannon
And this is why this is a transcendent moment.
This is a moment that has to be seized.
And you believe that Cassidy, President Trump understands that, right?
unidentified
He does.
steve bannon
Which is pretty powerful.
unidentified
It is.
steve bannon
That he would kind of get this.
He got it a long time ago, but he got this.
unidentified
You know, I think Cassidy gets it too.
He doesn't want to go against this movement.
He made it really clear.
I'm going to have moms on my case.
So many of the senators said that.
It's really true.
They know that there's going to be a political price to pay if they don't support this nominee.
steve bannon
Can you hang on for a second?
unidentified
Sure.
steve bannon
Mary Holland from Children's Health Defense.
By the way, fantastic job.
The Maha movement turned out the last two days in the cold.
Pretty impressive.
Short commercial break.
Johnny Contex is out with American Heart.
We're going to be back in a moment.
Also, Nicole Shanahan will be joining us.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
An historic day in the Imperial Capitol.
Today we had Robert F. Kennedy Jr. being grilled on being the Secretary of Health and Human Services, a transcendent moment and a historic moment for this country.
We had Cash Patel for the FBI and Tulsi Gabbard for DNI, three friends of the show, and I know the audience is all in.
We kind of had NFL red zone in the first hour.
Then President Trump stepped up and gave just a, how can I say it, a...
A pretty impressive press conference that heads are still blowing up.
So Natalie Winters is going to be, we're going to get Natalie up at six and we're going to go through all of it.
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Mary Holland.
Why was this, once again, before I start getting into the muck of headcount and how we're going to get this passed, why is this a transcendent moment today, a historic moment today?
You can kind of feel it, and you can particularly feel it in the forces that are receding.
Why is this a transcendent and historic moment?
unidentified
Well, even regardless of the confirmation, thousands of people showed up.
This is a movement that has been growing from the grassroots for decades.
And it is now in the sun.
So the New York Times is coming to talk to me.
LA Times just ran a favorable piece about Bobby Kennedy.
Politico did a halfway favorable piece about children's health defense.
This movement is no longer...
Wacko, anti-vax, fringe, marginal.
This movement is now mainstream, and people realize that over half of this country, adults and kids are sick.
We've got to do something.
As Bobby says, it's existential.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Let's talk about the practicality of the steps we have to do.
The number is 202-224-3121.
Either go to the Article 3, Mike Davis' great app he's got that can help you, or our own Grace Chung has got the Bill Blaster.
One of those two apps could help you.
But make sure today, and we're going to take them, Bobby Kennedy first, and we're going to talk about Tulsi and Cashflow later.
We've got work to do overnight and tomorrow.
These are hanging in the balance, I would say.
We should take nothing for granted.
unidentified
Take nothing for granted.
steve bannon
At the Finance Committee.
Senator Cassidy, who was a physician up until 10 years ago, he's the central person.
unidentified
Yes, he's the central person.
He expressed his reservations today, but I do think he said he might want to be in touch with Bobby over the weekend.
I do believe he's going to come around.
He said that he wants to support President Trump's slate.
He wants to support the vision.
I do believe that he wanted to put those on the record, but that he is willing.
I think he'll come around.
steve bannon
Where do we stand then with the floor vote?
Murkowski, Collins, McConnell?
I mean, we can only take down three.
unidentified
Right.
So McConnell is a polio survivor.
He's not going to vote for Bobby Kennedy.
Murkowski and Collins were both at the help committee today.
Both of them asked detailed questions about Maine and Alaska.
They both had concerns, but my impression was that they were...
Comfortable voting in favor of Bobby Kennedy.
steve bannon
So you think that those have been against some of President Trump's earlier picks.
They were key for Gates leaving the yard.
They were some of the toughest on Pete and eventually didn't vote for him.
You think that Murkowski and Collins, from the way you saw the questioning, the body language...
unidentified
That's what I saw today.
steve bannon
Are you guys whipping votes?
Are you getting information and giving back to Bobby about where we stand?
unidentified
No.
I mean, you know, he's got his own team.
I'm outside of that.
But I think that's what it looked like today.
steve bannon
Do you have any idea on the timing of this?
unidentified
People don't think that it's going to be tomorrow.
Bobby had to answer questions.
steve bannon
He gets more information back to people.
unidentified
Right.
So they had questions.
There's a record.
He's submitting those answers tomorrow, today, from the questions yesterday.
But they expect to vote next week.
steve bannon
Yeah.
President Trump's very adamant now about Thune's got to pick up the pace here.
He wants his guys in.
He saw this FAA situation.
Where do people go to get you?
Because now more than ever...
And we really want you to start.
Our next guest, Nicole Shanahan, brought it up the first time about agriculture and make America healthy again.
We clearly want to get more people on here.
We broke new ground on the pandemic and with the vaccine, the Naomi Wolfs of the world.
In fact, I just read Doppelganger by Naomi Klein.
Her head blew up.
Naomi Wolf is some feminist leftist.
All of a sudden, she's on Bannon's show.
And she started watching.
The one thing about Naomi Klein is very interesting.
The book is from 2023. I got to talk to her one time.
She actually predicted, and the only one that predicted the 2024 race of exactly what we're trying to do, which is a MAGA plus, which is the MAGA base plus the low information, low propensity, plus the Maha Moms, right?
That is a winning coalition.
If you do that, you can change it like 1932, but you have to deliver on that.
And Bobby Kennedy is the way we deliver.
Where do people go to get more information about all this?
unidentified
Children'sHealthDefense.org.
steve bannon
And that's no longer a fringy group.
unidentified
We're no longer fringe, Steve.
steve bannon
You can't imagine, folks out there, if you ever whine about MAGA and Howard, you can't imagine what they used to refer to Children's Health Defense.
I mean, it was the cult, fringy, wackos, right?
Just by determination, resilience, and grit.
unidentified
Here we are.
steve bannon
Here we are.
Mary Holland, thank you so much for coming.
I appreciate you.
Let's play.
We've got Nicole Shanahan, but I've got a great cold open.
Let's play it.
We'll bring in Nicole.
nicole shanahan
Hey, everyone.
Tomorrow is a pivotal moment in our nation's history.
At 10 a.m.
Eastern Time, RFK will sit in front of the Senate Finance Committee for his confirmation hearing to be our nation's next Secretary of Health and Human Services.
I urge everyone to call their US senators over the following days and demand they vote yes on Bobby's nomination.
He is more than qualified.
He's proven, principled, and prepared to lead.
I'll share a list below of key senators.
If they represent your state, they need to hear from you.
If they don't, please call your own senator and ask them to vote yes.
We need as many votes as we can get.
This hasn't been widely reported, but in 2020, I cut large checks to Chuck Schumer to help Democrats flip two Senate seats in Georgia from red to blue.
The two candidates I helped elect, Senator Raphael Warnock and Senator John Ossoff, please know I will be watching your votes very closely.
I will make it my personal mission that you lose your seats in the Senate if you vote against the future health of America's children.
And more than that, I also want to say to Senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Lisa Markovsky, Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, James Lankford, Cory Booker, John Fetterman, Bernie Sanders and Catherine Cortez Masto.
This is a bipartisan message, and it comes directly from me.
While Bobby may be willing to play nice, I won't.
If you vote against him, I will personally fund challengers to primary you in your next election, and I will enlist hundreds of thousands to join me.
Big Pharma and Big Ag have exploited us for far too long.
It ends now.
You're either on the side of transparency and accountability, or you are standing in the way.
The choice is yours.
Please choose wisely.
steve bannon
Nicole Shanahan, Lord have mercy, girl, you threw down.
unidentified
What was that, ma'am?
nicole shanahan
You know...
We're pissed.
The moms are pissed.
I'm pissed.
And watching the line of questioning that Bobby has had to endure the last two days from individuals that have received millions upon millions of dollars direct from the pharmaceutical companies.
Has been infuriating.
And you know what?
The thing is, is the MAGA-MAHA movement is so big.
I really do think it's the largest movement on the planet right now.
And we're all watching this.
Do you think any Senate confirmation hearing has had this many live viewers?
Certainly not as many that are this deeply vested.
And that's what this is all about right now.
I didn't expect that video to go as viral as it did.
And I've heard from so many people who are like, we're ready to go.
Can you please primary my senator?
unidentified
They're just fed up.
nicole shanahan
We're all fed up.
And it's time to clean out this mess from our government.
steve bannon
Nicole, today...
were you taken back by the viciousness of the not the content of the questions but the viciousness of the delivery of some of the questions ma'am?
nicole shanahan
I don't know where they get this self-righteous viciousness It is, you know, part of me wonders if they actually believe half of what they're saying.
Some of it just...
It feels like theater.
And the reality is, is for the rest of us out here living this reality every single day in America, helping our kids through a new historic flu season, a new historic RSV season, children that are born with autoimmune issues.
It's not theater for us.
This is our lived reality.
And so when I see that viciousness up there on Capitol Hill, These people are acting.
And I think that at this point, the Democratic Party chooses its candidates based on who can act, not who gives a damn, who can tell like any.
Many of the senators we've heard from that were the harshest barely won their seats.
I mean, Cortez Masto, she won her seat by less than 1%.
I mean, these seats are low-hanging fruit, and we're coming after every single one of them.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Can you bear with us?
I want to take a short commercial break and bring back some other questions about this.
Historic moment today for the Make America Healthy Again, the MAHA and the MAGA movement.
Nicole Shanahan read us in a little bit, not just from the campaign, but when she came and talked about the agriculture department.
It was quite enlightening.
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Short commercial break.
Nicole Shanahan here on Historic Day.
Make America healthy again.
Confronted the biotech, big pharma medical complex.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
steve bannon
Nicole Shanahan is with us.
She was the vice presidential candidate with Bobby Kennedy until they rolled in and partnered up with President Trump.
Why is this a historic day on Capitol Hill for Bobby Kennedy and both the MAGA movement and particularly the Make America Healthy Again movement?
Why is this a transcendent moment, ma'am?
nicole shanahan
I'll explain it through a story, a personal story.
My dear friend and mentor has a 26-year-old vaccine-injured daughter, and she's been at this for 25-plus years, and she hasn't been heard.
She hasn't been heard for two decades.
She hasn't been heard.
So for her to tune in and watch.
Watch Mary Holland no longer be fringe.
Watch Bobby Kennedy talking on behalf of her personal story.
The sad part of this all is that it is no longer fringe.
It's no longer fringe because that many families are impacted by this crisis.
That many families are impacted by this malfeasance.
I mean, that's why today is historic.
It's sad that it is historic.
It's sad because it indicates how big of a problem we have on our hands today.
steve bannon
Some of the folks that you said, hey, I'm going to primary these guys because men and women shouldn't be around.
Some of you have actually supported before.
Did you not know at the time that they didn't really support your core beliefs or particularly since...
Make America Healthy, again, is central to your whole mission and why you're kind of involved in politics in the first place.
Did you not understand it?
Did they get bought off?
Did they flip?
Are they not the people you thought they were?
What about that?
nicole shanahan
They're not the people I thought they were.
It was 2020. I supported Warnock and Ossoff.
I supported Chuck Schumer.
And I went back and I looked at my notes from then.
I looked at my email exchanges with Chuck Schumer's office.
And I had gone to Chuck Schumer with a huge folder full of documents about regenerative agriculture.
And I said, why are you guys talking about all of these other climate change policies?
All you have to do is fix our agricultural system and everything you're talking about in terms of emissions and balancing our carbon cycle can be addressed through regenerative agriculture.
Will you please?
Please do this.
And he looked at me and he said, yes, you know, I need your help.
And he explained to me that he needed to win back the Senate majority.
And so I cut him checks.
I said, okay, well, if you're going to take on regenerative agriculture and we can move beyond all of this climate change mess, I'm happy to support you.
This sounds like a great opportunity.
And so I did.
And then when that Senate...
A runoff happened in Georgia.
I happen to actually have a woman I had just started to work with.
Her name is Shirley Sherrod.
She was head of agriculture at the USDA under Obama's administration.
And she actually got pushed out.
They were very vicious to her, that administration.
There was some, you know, there's an NAACP speech that she gave that was mis-edited and then put online.
And interestingly, it was Brett Bart at the time when he was sole blogger.
And it went viral.
And they turned on Shirley without even any due process.
They just turned on her.
And they kicked, they pushed her out.
And so Shirley is in rural Georgia, and she's been organizing rural Georgian farmers.
And I reached out to her, and she happened to have a C4. And I said, hey, you know, I know Stacey Abrams can't get out to rural Georgia.
Can you, you know, do you want to mobilize?
And she said, yeah, I'd love to.
And, you know, I have a C4. So I sent her a million dollars to her C4. And she got out that vote and they just narrowly, narrowly pulled off that race.
You know, there's suspicion that there was some ballot stuffing and ballot integrity issues and the seats were, quote, stolen.
I don't know if that's true.
Perhaps it is.
But I do know the role that I played in all of that.
And I take responsibility for it.
And I was wrong to ever trust these people.
And many Democrats are opening up to this acceptance that they were wrong, they were misguided, they were lied to.
And it's all this bait and switch.
And that's what the party's been.
And nobody in their right mind can continue to support that.
steve bannon
Boy, Shirley Sherrod, I dealt with.
I was Andrew Breitbart's partner.
That's a whole nightmare.
If it was not for Anthony Weiner, Andrew would have never been back on Fox.
I'll tell that story later.
unidentified
But man, you just sent shivers down my spine in the Shirley Sherrod tape.
steve bannon
Before I let you go, there's been some talk.
You're very upset what's happened in California.
And there's some talk that you might be interested in running for governor against Gavin Newsom.
Is there any truth to that rumor?
nicole shanahan
There is truth to that rumor.
I'm putting together an exploratory committee this coming summer.
I haven't committed to running yet.
There's quite a bit of work that needs to be done.
If it's my time, I will run.
If it is not my time, I will throw the full weight of my support, my media team, my endorsement behind somebody great who is Maha Maga.
steve bannon
Well, I guess Newsom's not going to run again.
I guess he's not going to get recalled because we've only got a year left.
Yeah.
Nicole Shanahan, where do people go to find out more about you, more about your support and kind of, you're one of the co-founders of the Maha movement.
Where do people go to find out more about that, make America healthy again?
Where do they go to find out why this is a historic day and what we're up against in all of this, ma'am?
nicole shanahan
Yeah, I mean, we are really a team, Steve, now.
And I really appreciate the work you've been doing on transhumanism.
That's a topic that I'm very passionate about.
I have a podcast called...
Back to the people.
You can find us on all the major streaming platforms as well.
I'm very active on X. That's kind of straight from my head onto the keyboard.
It doesn't go through a big team.
It's my personal way to communicate what I'm finding, what I'm thinking, and the direction that I'm taking my work.
steve bannon
Nicole Shanahan, on X, where do people get you on X? At Nicole Shanahan.
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
Thanks for coming on.
nicole shanahan
Thanks very much, Steve.
Take care.
steve bannon
What a day.
Here's what was so powerful about it is that, and we hope that we tried to do, it's kind of like NFL Red Zone.
We tried to cut, the first hour, President Trump came in the second hour, but if you look at the intensity, and what we do is really focus on the Democrats because they're coming in with these vicious questions, cheap shot questions, not really looking for an answer.
We want you to see the grace under pressure.
Of the Tulsi Gabbards, of the Cash Patels, of the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. And these were, this was, I thought, as nasty as it could get.
I mean, they came at Cash with everything.
They came at Tulsi with everything.
They came at Bobby Kennedy with everything.
And I would tell President Trump, I think your folks came through with flying colors.
Given what it was, and some people got dinged up, there's no doubt about that.
I got a few scuff marks.
I don't think anything came close to not expediting these and get the committee votes as soon as possible and let's get them to the floor.
President Trump said that when he gave the remarks today about the tragedy at what happened at outside of or over top of Reagan National Airport here in the nation's capital right over the Potomac.
This horrible tragedy.
The president came in at 11 a.m.
And really from, I guess, closer to 11.30.
He was late.
11.20 came in, but held like a 35-minute press conference.
And I tell people that, particularly with this audience, the sunshine patriots and the summer soldiers are always going to be with us.
And you just have to accept that.
And the parties, just don't let it bother you.
You're the backbone.
And you're the key part of this movement because you will always answer the trumpet's call and be there when you're needed.
And you're going to be needed to get these confirmations across and also to have President Trump's back.
You could see the beginning if you look at the last 48 hours.
They're feeling their oats.
President Trump's victory had really smashed their self-confidence.
I think they started to realize that they had had every...
They'd had their hands on the levers of institutional power.
And it got lazy.
And it really stopped thinking about American citizens, particularly working class and middle class Americans.
They really became a party of kind of the billionaires, then the credentialed class.
Dropped all the way down to kind of the, not the working poor, but just kind of the abject poor.
And they lost their way, in a big way.
And they got smoked.
And they realized a long, torturous path back when you've forgotten those values.
But they've seen in the last 48 hours, this is about the memo that went out.
The memo that went out was a perfectly fine memo.
Did it go through enough process?
I don't know.
Maybe not.
But the point was President Trump was signing executive orders and taking executive actions in the next day.
Remember we held up that headline of the Financial Times in London that said $300 billion basically carved back out, I think, of the Green New Deal program that hadn't been spent.
A lot of this dealt with impoundment.
President Trump signed an executive order the next day.
You know, the New York Times report, well, he signed something on the World Health Organization, but they're really not out.
They're spending money.
Or he shut down all the New Deal, all the Green New Deal plans, but he's still not out.
They're still spending money.
And finally, I think he told people and guys around him, he said, hey, send a member out to everybody and let's just go to full stop and we see where all this cash is.
And this is a normal course of business.
I think it's done in every change of presidency because the new administration coming in wants to kind of understand kind of, you know, you're changing the watch, where all this cash is going.
And they made it the biggest firestorm in human history.
And maybe some people weren't giving a heads up.
Who knows?
But they made it the biggest firestorm in human history.
Then attach, I think, the Doge member.
They kind of put, like, in corporate America, hey, look, we're doing a restructuring here.
If you want to buy out, those will be available.
But if you miss this date, hey, you'll be around.
But we can't guarantee you.
We're not going to guarantee you're going to have a billet.
Because what have I been talking about here?
Programs and billets.
Programs and billets.
And I've been individual personalities or individual people.
And you've seen that.
That's what that memo talked about.
Right?
We're going to be downsizing.
We're going to go in a different direction.
The president has full authority to do that.
Those two things, and you saw, you know, the firestorm.
Rachel Maddow, who's now five nights a week, she was looking for a hook and looking to get a grip.
That was part.
And you saw today if the illustrious nature of President Trump going down into the briefing room.
And the press was back on just like the jackals they were.
It reminded me of some of the pandemic of which, remember, with Jason Miller here, we had war room pandemic and Raheem.
And then for a while, I just took it.
But we would show the press conferences, and they didn't want to hear what President Trump had to say.
They didn't want to walk through about what he was doing on this pandemic, which I think he handled absolutely brilliantly, given the information at the time, and how the apparatus was working against him.
I almost felt like we were back to that, given the vicious nature, and it's vicious, the vicious nature of the media.
They're just vicious.
And they don't come at Trump with facts.
They're just going to come with just pure vitriol.
So we have to say, I think today, I think they got lit today.
So I believe, and I keep telling people, I said, look, you're going to really know who has President Trump's back and who's in this movement by grinding through the next couple of weeks.
We've got all these confirmations that got to get done.
And I believe they're feeling it.
They think a little bit of blood in the water.
They just do.
Not that there is, but they think so.
This is why I think, and we'll discuss this as we go forward, you know, I think when Tulsi's the most vulnerable, Bobby's next in Cash.
I think Tulsi might have come through with this today.
Think she represented.
Cash, I think they feel they got a couple of dings in on Cash.
And Bobby, I think they got some dings on Bobby.
Now, I agree with Mary Holland.
I think Cassie's the key.
We get Cassie through it.
He should get through it.
He's a guy that hasn't been particularly pro-Trump or pro-MAGA. I think he's up for re-election, coming in 26th.
He's got the reality check, and I think you ought to give him another one.
202-224-3121.
That's imperative, imperative, imperative.
That not just the vote for Bobby Kennedy, but he's got to help expedite.
We've got to get a committee vote.
I would love to see that tomorrow, although they've asked Bobby for a bunch of following information.
I hope his team turns that as quickly as possible.
We need Bobby Kennedy.
If the last 24 hours, 48 hours have shown anything about this tragic situation in Washington with the Apache helicopter and the American Eagle jet, it's that President Trump needs his team and he's in place now.
Short commercial break.
We'll be back in the morning.
Just tomorrow.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
I think you saw from the Intel today, D&I, don't let any bad actors read your text messages, see your emails, get into your phone, your iPad, your computer, none of it.
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You saw the pushback on Cash Day about the FBI. You think, oh my God, the FBI is like the greatest thing in the world.
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You saw the intensity.
You saw it was brutal.
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Bobby Kennedy, brutal.
Tulsi Gabbard, they try to be brutal.
I thought she stood them down pretty well.
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Historic day here.
In the next hour, we're going to drill down on Tulsi and Cash.
Also tomorrow, to make sure we can filter through tonight, 202-224-3121.
The reason this show is known and so renowned is you, the audience, the most engaged, powerful, using your human agency every day.
We've got to fight.
And you have to let these Republican senators know that this is important.
President Trump wants his team.
You can see now with their testimony why he wants them.
And you can see the resistance to them.
Wait when they get in and start taking action.
Wait till Bobby Kennedy takes some action.
Wait till Kash Patel takes some action.
Wait till Tulsi Gabbard takes some action.
Just like Pete Hex and all these guys.
This is my point about the memo.
The OMB memo was just to find out where the money is in the entire system and to kind of go to all engines stop temporarily so we can just figure out where this is going.
And they could ascertain if President Trump's written an executive order, we want to make sure there's not still money in the pipeline going there.
This is a basic fundamental managerial decision.
They went to full meltdown and the resistance has started.
This is why very quickly the summer soldiers and Sunshine Patriots are going to get too hard for them, just like it did in 16, just like it did in 20, 21. I don't need to tell you.
You're combat veterans in the information war.
Don't need to tell you.
You're hardened.
You're smart, gritty, tough, and resilient.
That's why you're so powerful.
Call these senators up and just tell them what you think.
Say, hey, I saw it.
I had some moments they're not that pretty.
Just, that's reality.
That's human nature.
But man, they were, they came through with flying colors.
Flying colors.
Let those senators know it.
202-224-3121.
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steve bannon
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