Jan. 23, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Very quickly. | |
| It's not about somebody who is staying, just staying, and something like some forces. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm not supportive of this idea. | ||
| I'm supporting the idea of contingence, like a part of security guarantees, because if they have 1,5 million army, and if we will have less two times, it means that we need contingence. | ||
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With a very strong number of soldiers. | |
| 200,000, 200,000 from all the Europeans. | ||
| 200,000, it's a minimum. | ||
| It's a minimum. | ||
| Otherwise, it's nothing. | ||
| Otherwise, it's something, you know, like somebody, like we had OSCE, and nobody knew where they can help you. | ||
| Just they had offices and that's all. | ||
| It's great if we will have troops. | ||
| But we have to understand that the troops will not be in the center of the capital. | ||
| They will not have relaxed time. | ||
| Yes, it's very important because I heard that some allies... | ||
| Yes, but it's okay. | ||
| We can be in the center of some city. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We don't need such contingency. | ||
| You want the front line? | ||
| Yes, without our people, of course. | ||
| Yes, because this means security. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| But it can't be. | ||
| It can't be without the United States. | ||
| I will explain to you why. | ||
| Even if some European friends think that it can be. | ||
| No, it will not be. | ||
| First of all, Nobody will risk without United States. | ||
| The second, that's what can divide NATO, divide EU and USA. That is a goal and dream of Putin, to divide this unity. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, Wednesday, 22 January, year of our Lord, 2025, a day packed with action. | ||
| From the White House to all the different departments, and also, you know, some of the global centers, what were happening at the border, capital markets, we're going to get to all that. | ||
| But I've got to want to go back to Davos because, folks, we told you this was coming, and man, it's coming. | ||
| It's rolling hard. | ||
| A big Bloomberg story out on the negotiations, the potential negotiations, and then President Trump making some statements late this afternoon. | ||
| I want to go. | ||
| I've got Nur bin Laden, and she's got two stories. | ||
| One, we're going to deal with this, and of course the great Ben Harnwell from Rome. | ||
| Nur from Davos, Switzerland. | ||
| Ben, it couldn't be any clearer. | ||
| We've been the strongest advocates of you've got to force a ceasefire immediately and start the negotiation. | ||
| Set a framework and push on. | ||
| This cannot be what the established order wants us for President Trump to be forced to embrace this war, then it's his war. | ||
| And then it's a total, complete disaster. | ||
| I want to play both clips. | ||
| The clips show an evolution in the Bloomberg and other stories show an evolution. | ||
| Things are evolving. | ||
| Zelensky today, in his talk, after his talk, doing some Q&A, says, hey, drops a bomb, which you talked about with Noor, in the morning show, 200,000, that 200,000 man combat troops as security forces, as security forces. | ||
| Then, and we said, hey, He's implying 50,000 Americans. | ||
| He's saying 250. Then afterwards, he says he drops the bomb. | ||
| No, it absolutely has to have American troops. | ||
| Because he said two things. | ||
| Number one, none of the Europeans are credible by themselves, and they won't do it if America doesn't. | ||
| Number two, he says you can't allow NATO to be divided or Europe to be divided between. | ||
| That's what Russia wants. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| We're going down the slippery slope, and I hope and pray the president goes to the microphone tomorrow and says, ceasefire, freeze in place. | ||
| Let's get to the negotiating table. | ||
| And for this audience, absolutely no way, impossible. | ||
| These security forces are going to be held hostage by the Russians, essentially. | ||
| It cannot be one American boy and girl over there. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, your discussion of the Bloomberg piece, of these other pieces coming out of President Trump, talking about... | ||
| Making comments about the Russians. | ||
| Everything I see so far, to me, I don't think is heading in the right direction. | ||
| President Trump ought to be putting pressure on Zelensky, first of all, to shut up and not try to intimidate us and try to suck America into this security force, sir. | ||
| Oh, we just dropped Harwell. | ||
| Gosh. | ||
| We're going to get him right back up. | ||
| But let's get to Norah Bin Laden. | ||
| Your thoughts on... | ||
| Sorry, we lost Ben. | ||
| We'll give him a second. | ||
| Your thoughts on Zelensky in particular. | ||
| You're in Davos. | ||
| You saw the evolution of this. | ||
| Now, a couple of years ago when Zelensky went, he was the rock star of rock stars. | ||
| I take it now they'd rather forget about this guy? | ||
| The first thing I'd like to say, Steve, is that this man has absolutely no shame in making these demands of the European member states and of America. | ||
| After siphoning so much money, so many billions, he now wants American lives to be sacrificed alongside of how many hundreds of thousands of his own people. | ||
| But as we mentioned on the show earlier this morning, they have a complete disregard for human life and just want to keep this conflict dragging on. | ||
| He should be demanding that President Trump actually takes action and stops this conflict within 24 hours as he had claimed he would and said he would. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| I want to get right back to you, Nora. | ||
| We got Ben up. | ||
| Ben, the evolution of this. | ||
| Early in the day at Davos, it's 200,000 security forces, which I think people are shocked by the number. | ||
| And then afterwards, it's, oh, by the way, the United States essentially has to be a U.S. security force. | ||
| Europe can't do it, won't do it, and they certainly won't do it unless America's in. | ||
| Thoughts? | ||
| Good evening, Steve. | ||
| Evening, Nort. | ||
| Yeah, well, when the original comment came out yesterday about the 2,000, 200,000 peacekeepers necessary, Zelensky was clear to stress that he was talking about from the European side of the theatre. | ||
| And I thought, OK, you know, he's made similar soundings before. | ||
| He's not put a number on it. | ||
| But I didn't see straight away that this was sort of grade A level news. | ||
| And I thought, because after all, he's not talking about dragging America into this. | ||
| He's always said he needs American money, American sort of equipment, but he's always backed off as saying explicitly we need American boots on the ground. | ||
| When this story dropped today, basically it was, wow. | ||
| Not because of necessarily, Steve, what he said, and I'll repeat just a moment the direct quote he said, but the full frontal... | ||
| Lack of respect to President Trump in him saying it now on the second day after he's taken office. | ||
| This is before they've sat down, before they've talked, before Lieutenant General Kellogg has gone over there, before talks has started, Zelensky has attempted, effectively, to put a spin curve on the board and catch President Trump on the offbeat. | ||
| This is, as I say, a massive sign of disrespect on behalf of Zelensky there towards President Trump. | ||
| This is what he says. | ||
| You heard it in the cold open. | ||
| It can't be without the United States, even if some European friends think it can be. | ||
| No, it can't be. | ||
| Nobody will risk without the United States. | ||
| Well, look, if that analysis is true, somebody on the American end needs to tell this to Zelensky, ASAP, that this is not going to happen. | ||
| As far as I'm aware, none of the three present plans that are circulating around President Trump involve American boots on the ground. | ||
| None of them, right? | ||
| Whatever President Trump is thinking, and he's spoken hypothetically of wrapping this up after about six months. | ||
| General Kellogg says 100 days. | ||
| But whatever they're talking about, they're talking about money and arms and not American boots on the ground. | ||
| As far as I'm concerned, that's dead before it's even started. | ||
| If Zelensky's position is without American boots on the ground... | ||
| American security guarantees are worthless. | ||
| This needs to be communicated to him, ASAP, so he can act accordingly. | ||
| And by acting accordingly, I mean go now to the negotiating table with President Putin. | ||
| Because the situation is this. | ||
| The primary plan, the Kellogg-Flights-Gorka plan, is to get Ukraine to the negotiating table under the promise of further... | ||
| And if Russia doesn't join the negotiating table, they're going to give even more support to Ukraine. | ||
| And once they have a peace, in order to make that peace stable, more support to Ukraine. | ||
| Steve, I reject that plan out of hand. | ||
| Who am I? But I reject that plan. | ||
| I think all of our listeners on the one will reject that out of hand, right? | ||
| It's not what President Trump promised in the election campaign, which was... | ||
| A ceasefire within 24 hours. | ||
| If Zelensky is operating under the position and he's talking to other European capitals on the expectation that America is going to commit boots on the ground as part of its security guarantees, they need to know this. | ||
| Because the American position is, General Kellogg's position is, at the moment, Ukraine needs to stabilise its frontier. | ||
| And in a position of stability, then negotiate with Russia. | ||
| Steve, that position in and of itself, with all due respect to General Kellogg, is absurd because there is no stability in Ukraine's frontiers. | ||
| Russia is gaining ground in Ukraine at a faster rate now than in three years of the war. | ||
| So, if Biden hasn't been able to maintain... | ||
| If Biden's support... | ||
| I'll give away on this point, Steve. | ||
| If Biden... | ||
| It hasn't been able to maintain a stable frontier in Ukraine with all the commitment that America has given right now to get to General Kellogg's starting point for negotiations. | ||
| America now would need to give even more than it's been given so far. | ||
| This is a disaster. | ||
| It's what you said, Steve, in your interview to Politico. | ||
| America is now setting itself up for a second Vietnam. | ||
| This is where they're going to try to taint President Trump, who had nothing to do with this war, trying to stop this war, and the war never started if he hadn't had the 2020 election stolen. | ||
| That's what's so outrageous about this. | ||
| I think it gets worse, though, when you go and break down that position, because the Ukrainians just said, for the fourth or fifth time, they're not going to change the laws to get the... | ||
| Right now, they have a 500,000-man shortage of combat troops. | ||
| Why do they have that? | ||
| Because so many are dead or wounded, right? | ||
| So many are dead or wounded. | ||
| They've got to replenish that. | ||
| They don't draft anybody under 26. The people, once again, have rejected. | ||
| It's not even a bill, I don't think, in Parliament anymore, the 18 to 26, to get a stabilized front. | ||
| It's not just with seven of these guys. | ||
| It's not just arms and weapons. | ||
| We've given so much. | ||
| Right now, you actually need bodies. | ||
| You need combat troops to have a stability. | ||
| They're not Ukrainians. | ||
| So it's going to come from two sources. | ||
| It's going to come from either NATO and European or from the United States just to get to the negotiating table. | ||
| This thing makes no sense. | ||
| This is going to be a quagmire because you've got these shifting things. | ||
| And you know how these guys are. | ||
| They're going to say one thing one day. | ||
| Zelensky is as slippery as you can get. | ||
| We're going to put our national prestige. | ||
| More cash, and more importantly, they're sucking in. | ||
| He just said right there, Europe can't do it. | ||
| You can't have a piece of security force. | ||
| You can't have a security force without troops. | ||
| And those troops have to be a large proportion, have to be American, because Europeans either can't provide it or nobody take it seriously. | ||
| Why? | ||
| They don't put any money in their armed forces. | ||
| They can't fight the Russians. | ||
| Did we start this that now we're going to put our sons and daughters? | ||
| In the front line in Ukraine as essentially hostages? | ||
| Right now we have 20,000, I would argue, almost hostages right now in South Korea as that country goes to a coup that's set up by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Hell, they got the president, you know, one day he's in the presidential palace, next day he's arresting. | ||
| We got 28,000 combat troops over there. | ||
| We got to dig our ways out of these holes. | ||
| They're trying to ensnare and trap President Trump at every step of the way. | ||
| Every step of the way. | ||
| Immediate ceasefire. | ||
| Immediate ceasefire. | ||
| And the pressure's got going, Zelensky, I need you to get to the negotiating table. | ||
| Let's stop kidding ourselves about this territory. | ||
| This is not our fight. | ||
| They lost this territory. | ||
| NATO, the European nations. | ||
| Zelensky, they lost that territory, not us. | ||
| We gave $250 billion. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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| including the J6 partners we're trying to give enough to, because the non-execution of this is showing you what's happening with the administrative state. | ||
| They already leaked out the border. | ||
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| Norbin Laden. | ||
| I'm going to pivot here in a second for now. | ||
| Ben Harnwell is going to read President Trump's words. | ||
| And look, we're here. | ||
| We're always telling the truth to President Trump. | ||
| We're always giving his advice. | ||
| We understand that these things get complicated. | ||
| And President Trump likes you standing your ground, making your case, pushing your case forward, and then at some point in time he makes a decision, understanding his decision and getting back of it. | ||
| You lose fair and square. | ||
| Or sometimes you win. | ||
| Nora, but I want to go back to Zelensky, because a couple of years ago this guy went in and the whole world stopped. | ||
| They beat him into Hollywood. | ||
| I remember seeing Davos right when the war started. | ||
| This guy was like the earth stood still, and this was Churchill of the 21st century. | ||
| How is he perceived today? | ||
| Is it a big audience? | ||
| Is the place packed? | ||
| Are people hanging on every word? | ||
| Is he the center of attention in Davos? | ||
| Listen, Ukraine is very much still a key point here at Davos this week, as evidenced as well by Ukraine House. | ||
| It is always packed. | ||
| You have many people lining up to attend the different panels. | ||
| So there is very much a vested interest of the Davos cult into how this conflict plays out, especially since there are so many financial interests in the rebuilding of the country, as we've discussed before. | ||
| But to come back to his comments that he made today, and I couldn't agree more with you, Steve, not a single man or woman of American troops should be going there, and essentially it is so counterproductive if you're hoping to reach a deal, which is what President Trump has been repeating up to now, is that a deal needs to be reached even in his post today. | ||
| Calling for American troops on the ground will make that deal obviously much more difficult to be reached. | ||
| So Zelensky obviously knows that, but it is a clear provocation to further escalate this war and continue it dragging on much longer. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, President Trump jumped in here this afternoon with a true social post. | ||
| Can you read it to the audience? | ||
| I want to see what the bit of the ask is. | ||
| Of course, Steve. | ||
| So President Trump said, in the context of what we were talking about just a few or so moments ago before the break, what President Trump has said on social media is that he says, I'm not looking to hurt Russia. | ||
| I love the Russian people. | ||
| I've always had a good relationship with President Putin. | ||
| But Putin should make a deal soon, or else Trump would have no other choice but to impose additional taxes, tariffs and sanctions. | ||
| On Russian imports to the US, along with other participating countries. | ||
| Now, again, President Trump has been very busy over the last 48 hours signing a whole number of executive orders. | ||
| I think he's leaning on his team somewhat with this advice, this follow through about the taxes, the tariffs and the sanctions. | ||
| But the fact is, is that that's been the Biden's policy of the last three years. | ||
| And it's failed. | ||
| So to come back to the point that I was saying before, it's what you said in the first 15 minutes of this show, Steve. | ||
| You mentioned a very key word, prestige. | ||
| Well, at some point, America needs to confront the reality that it has lost prestige because of the actions of President Biden. | ||
| And there's no escaping that. | ||
| And if you look at prestige as an economic quantity, like, for example, under the sunk cost. | ||
| Fallacy. | ||
| Just have to write that off. | ||
| Write off the prestige that America's going to lose by withdrawing. | ||
| But don't think, by thinking in more prestige to a victory, America's going to get anything out of it. | ||
| Because that victory simply isn't possible. | ||
| So far, the circle around President Trump, his advisers, seem to be advising him to do exactly what the Biden... | ||
| The administration was doing, not only on the sanctions and tariffs and what have you, but also on reducing the combat age from 25 to 18, which Mike Walsh, the National Security Advisor, incoming Jake Sullivan's successor, what Congressman Colonel Walsh is pushing. | ||
| That's exactly the Biden policy, right? | ||
| And I think what people are looking for now under this new administration is a shift in policy from something that's not going to... | ||
| Look, the point about sanctions is that they... | ||
| We know this. | ||
| They hit American consumers more than they hit the Russians. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| The presentation. | ||
| I think MAGA is looking for something more, Steve. | ||
| And this show, The War Room, has been really the only voice in the whole of American politics. | ||
| I said right from the get-go, the way out for America is don't get yourself bound in with security guarantees and a complete disengagement within 24 hours, which is what President Trump... | ||
| Because otherwise, if he's going to be in this game to try and save prestige, he's going to be wrapped in and suckered in by the tentacles, and it's going to be a repeat, as you said correctly just now, of Vietnam. | ||
| And that's not what America wants. | ||
| I think it's got to be threefold. | ||
| We are supporting the president. | ||
| We're just trying to avoid what we see. | ||
| Kagan laid it out. | ||
| Kagan, who wrote the freaking... | ||
| The piece about Caesar in January 1st of a couple of years ago and really called for kind of a Brutus to step up and gave moral authority and the moral high ground to an assassin of President Trump is that he was a dictator. | ||
| That same guy wrote this piece about Trump's first in the Atlantic and people got to please understand. | ||
| That the Atlantic is becoming the new kind of railhead for the resistance to Trump intellectuals, the public intelligentsia. | ||
| It's not going to be the Washington Post. | ||
| Washington Post is collapsing. | ||
| They're going to different things, these little news sites, whether it's Puck or Axios or the Bulwark or there's many, Dispatch, and some are never Trump and some are former lefties and a lot of former Republicans, but they're all interesting. | ||
| They all have scoops and they have some, you know, Thought pieces. | ||
| But the Atlantic is trying to do a concentration. | ||
| I think it's Steve Jobs' wife. | ||
| A concentration of this that gets to be powerful. | ||
| And it's powerful. | ||
| And Kagan just wrote a piece called Trump's First Strategic Failure. | ||
| And guess what it was about? | ||
| Ukraine. | ||
| And back to this negotiations. | ||
| Three things I think should happen immediately. | ||
| Number one, I haven't heard. | ||
| There's still a ceasefire. | ||
| President Trump should call for an immediate ceasefire. | ||
| Immediate. | ||
| And everything lacks in place. | ||
| And unfortunately, you're going to have, as we told you, got the Red Army. | ||
| It's a lot farther than the Donbass in Crimea. | ||
| It just is. | ||
| They want a lot of territory. | ||
| The second part of this is twofold in a security guarantee. | ||
| Number one, it will be no American money and no American troops. | ||
| And third, we will make no commitments to reconstruction. | ||
| We just don't have the cash. | ||
| We've got to reconstruct North Carolina. | ||
| We've got to reconstruct East Palestine, Ohio. | ||
| We have to reconstruct... | ||
| Los Angeles. | ||
| We've got our plate full. | ||
| Right now, and there's a lot more reconstruction in places that have been hit by natural disasters, or in East Palestine's case, man-made disaster. | ||
| Those three right there, and that will stop you. | ||
| And then set the framework immediately and get them into a room and force Zelensky into a room. | ||
| They're talking. | ||
| Zelensky's walking around talking like he's got options. | ||
| He just said... | ||
| The Europeans' military force, they don't have it. | ||
| It wouldn't be taken seriously. | ||
| But then, if you don't have that, bro, and you're not drafting your 18-year-olds to come in there because the parents don't want their kids slaughtered for no reason, and your country can't produce anything because it's shattered because you got them in a war you can't win, and the wet-you-loud leaders in the West that lead you down the primrose path... | ||
| To the destruction of your country, then where's your leverage? | ||
| Oh, your leverage is the Mac Daddy of the United States. | ||
| Well, look, that's not the deal. | ||
| That's going to lead to a long time to get resolution. | ||
| We've got to let this guy know you don't really have a voice. | ||
| And if they want to have a voice, then let Europe, who you just said can't do it, let Europe step up. | ||
| And they let them, if they want a voice to have the Europeans step up. | ||
| This is a black hole that's going to suck President Trump in. | ||
| And some of the guys over there in the neocontry got to step up and help and say, hey, we can't do this. | ||
| This is going to be with Nixon in Vietnam. | ||
| He's going to get stuck with something that was created by somebody else. | ||
| And they're going to start criticizing him. | ||
| You wait a couple weeks. | ||
| Trump's not doing this. | ||
| Trump's not doing that. | ||
| He's not backing security guarantees. | ||
| No, they're not part of the conversation. | ||
| He's not part of the conversation. | ||
| You created this. | ||
| You created the slaughter. | ||
| Trump had nothing to do with it. | ||
| You hadn't stolen the frickin' election. | ||
| It wouldn't even happen. | ||
| You have a million happy Ukrainians right now. | ||
| Not dead. | ||
| Most of them in unmarked graves. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Okay, Ben Harnwell, it's late. | ||
| You're going to be back with us tomorrow morning. | ||
| We'll continue this Ukraine. | ||
| I'm sure there'll be updates. | ||
| Because this is a war. | ||
| This is like shooting every day. | ||
| Ben, where do people follow you, sir? | ||
| On Getter, Steve, my social media platform of choice. | ||
| Simply tap in my surname, Hanwell, and you'll get some pretty good posts waiting for you at the top of my feed, even if I say so myself. | ||
| I just want to say, you mentioned Robert Kagan. | ||
| Before I bounce, you mentioned Robert Kagan before the break. | ||
| That gives me an excellent opportunity to pivot to his wife, Victoria Newland, who wasn't granted, like all the other rogues of the outgoing Biden administration, wasn't granted blanket immunity. | ||
| So I would suggest there's room for Congress, for a grand jury there, to call her in and find out what did she do? | ||
| What did she do when she made a hastily organized visit over there and everything going back to 2014? | ||
| Biden pardoned his son from 2014 onwards. | ||
| He did not pardon Victoria Nuland. | ||
| That's a great gift for us to get to the bottom of why we are now in this person. | ||
| And this is part of the investigation into 2019 impeachment. | ||
| The perfect phone call. | ||
| You have to get to the bottom of all of it. | ||
| Folks, we'd love not to do it, but it's got to happen. | ||
| You've got to do the work. | ||
| Ben? | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| See you tomorrow. | ||
| Great job. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Now, how do I... Okay, in this one, when you look at business, there's opportunity cost. | ||
| Opportunity cost associated with things. | ||
| About when you take certain action, you don't have the opportunity to do others. | ||
| So that's how you have to calculate into your equation in business or in any decision-making your opportunity costs. | ||
| President Trump did put out yesterday in the Roosevelt Room This thing called Stargate, and this was an effort to have artificial intelligence, a $500 billion infrastructure platform. | ||
| I got Joe Allen, our transhumanist editor, and Nora here. | ||
| But there's something about this that's kind of starting to metastasize. | ||
| Both the thing itself, exactly what this was, which was started off as a $500 billion joint venture, of which the United States, President Trump is announcing, hey, guys, people want to invest in the United States now because I'm here and the animal spirits are being unleashed. | ||
| There's two massive stories coming out of this. | ||
| And with everything else going on, we've got to cover the first, which is like, what are we talking about? | ||
| Because artificial intelligence, folks, I'm telling you, And when they did the whole of society or whole of government EO executive order, which I think it's got HB1 visas all in it. | ||
| Also, I think it's being undone is what I'm told is one of the lists to get canceled. | ||
| But I want to start out with Stargate first. | ||
| Then I'm going to get into the response of Elon Musk and my participation in that. | ||
| So we're going to continue down this path. | ||
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| Let's play the cold open for Noor Bin Laden, who's up late tonight to do this, and our own Joe Allen. | ||
| Let's go ahead and let her up. | ||
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One of the most exciting things we're working on, again, using the tools that Sam and Masa are providing, is a cancer vaccine. | |
| It's very interesting. | ||
| It turns out, I'll be quick, all of our cancers, cancer tumors, little fragments of those tumors float around in your blood. | ||
| So you can do early cancer detection with a blood test. | ||
| And using AI to look at the blood test, you can find the cancers that are actually seriously threatening the person. | ||
| So we can, again, cancer diagnosis using AI has the promise of just being a simple blood test. | ||
| Then beyond that... | ||
| Once we gene sequence, once we gene sequence that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the person, design a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them against that cancer. | ||
| And you can make that vaccine, that mRNA vaccine, you can make that robotically again using AI in about 48 hours. | ||
| So imagine early cancer detection. | ||
| The development of a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer aimed at you and have that vaccine available in 48 hours. | ||
| This is the promise of AI and the promise of the future. | ||
| Okay, if you had to string together five code words that would light off the word posse, I don't know. | ||
| Let's string them together. | ||
| Artificial intelligence, gene sequencing, mRNA, vaccines. | ||
| That was like Murder's Row. | ||
| I think he just did that. | ||
| That was in the Rosarito room next to President Trump. | ||
| He did that just to have people's heads blow up, and thank God we have social media because they did. | ||
| Nur bin Laden, I'll start with you. | ||
| You've been on this one all day. | ||
| This is starting to blow up. | ||
| So what's the beef? | ||
| He's talking to you about the future. | ||
| He's talking about what's happening now. | ||
| That's why they have a $500 billion joint venture, ma'am. | ||
| There are so many things to say about this and the developments coming out of the Rose Room yesterday. | ||
| The first thing I'd like to say is, so apparently now, just like Bill Gates, Larry Ellison is a doctor, self-appointed himself a doctor and is giving medical advice to people. | ||
| It feels like he took the baton from Bill Gates on all things vaccines. | ||
| The second thing I'd like to say is perhaps before discussing so-called mRNA, quote, vaccine cures, perhaps we should look at why there are so many cancers and why the rate has been skyrocketing, and maybe we should stop poisoning people and having the cancer issue in the first place. | ||
| With regards to Stargate, and this is where the thing has been blowing up this week, I'm here in Davos talking about the globalists. | ||
| I've been reporting on the globalists for a few years now, talking about mass surveillance, about the digital control grid that they are building out, all of this infrastructure via which they will digitize all aspects of our society and control our every single move, our every single transaction, and our speech. | ||
| Removing any form of freedom or human agency. | ||
| And the biggest news to me didn't come out of Davos this week, but actually out of this announcement yesterday in Washington, D.C. with the Stargate project and this mass investment in AI infrastructure. | ||
| And looking into all the globalists and all of these players. | ||
| Obviously, I'm aware that Larry Ellison is a very shady character and is very much the epitome of the deep state. | ||
| You just have to look at his company, Oracle, which was actually born out of the CIA. The name was Project Oracle. | ||
| It's been doffed into a company that was in the 70s. | ||
| The first client was the CIA. And I think it's... | ||
| One of the main clients of Oracle today, 25% of Oracle's business is actually, the main contractor is the CIA. So we're looking at deep state here, ties, you know, open AI, obviously. | ||
| And I really encourage people to familiarize themselves with this topic of Silicon Valley and the roots of Silicon Valley. | ||
| There's this great documentary by James Corbett. | ||
| This is what everybody was talking about. | ||
| Tweeting, you know, at POTUS, President Trump's handle on Twitter, at Don Jr., and members of the Trump administration saying, we do not want this. | ||
| Clips of Larry Ellison surfacing of him calling for total mass surveillance in the past. | ||
| And people are not happy, and rightly so. | ||
| No, it's—and by the way, the Davos term this year is— Is the intelligent age. | ||
| This falls right underneath it. | ||
| And I don't think President Trump fully realized the firestorm he was stepping into on many levels. | ||
| This level, the macro level, but also a feud on the AI side between Musk and Altman that's broken out. | ||
| It's been quite nasty. | ||
| But I want to go back more for big... | ||
| So, Joe Allen, you kind of warned us about this in Dark Aeon. | ||
| So, what's the big deal? | ||
| It's infrastructure for AI. You know, nor is one of these conspiracy theory wingnuts. | ||
| You got the fever swamps of MAGA, you know, lighting up poor Don Jr. He's got enough to worry about. | ||
| They got to lighten it up. | ||
| What's the problem with Stargate, sir? | ||
| I would say two things. | ||
| Before I talk about President Trump's role, I have to say up front that these last three days have been fantastic and he deserves all the credit in the world for... | ||
| Border enforcement for the January 6 pardons for repealing DEI and affirmative action. | ||
| So just to say up front, thank you so much for keeping your promises there. | ||
| But when he shows up like Michael Jordan endorsing Wheaties to endorse two just kind of avowed transhumanists or posthumanists, that being Sam Altman. | ||
| And Masi Yoshiman, or Yoshisan. | ||
| And then the third, Larry Ellison, who is, as Noor was just explaining, at the center of surveillance state technology. | ||
| Even though Trump isn't necessarily allocating the funds, even though Trump isn't necessarily involved, what he's signaling to people is that this is a positive path forward. | ||
| The war room posse is well aware that I do not see this as a positive path forward. | ||
| You begin with the surveillance and resulting manipulation of psychology and behavior. | ||
| These are horrific implications as to where the technology could go. | ||
| Then you have the increasing problem of people becoming dependent on artificial intelligence for their thinking, people becoming dependent on artificial intelligence for their daily life and even moral structure, and the human atrophy that results from that. | ||
| Again, horrific implications. | ||
| And lastly, the long-term goal envisioned by both Altman and Masayoshi-san. | ||
| Is that these systems, these AIs, will become superhuman and ultimately render human beings obsolete. | ||
| They will ultimately replace every possible role in society that human beings now occupy. | ||
| That is what President Trump is endorsing, and I want to believe he does not understand the implications of what he's endorsing. | ||
| I tell you what, let's come back after a short break, because this gets to be the MAGA base, particularly the MAGA base that has taken time and, you know, focused and looked at the Revolver stuff, the Mike Benz stuff, Natalie Winters material, and everything that's been done on the vaccines, all of it. | ||
| plus you add in the transhuman is what we've done in studying transhumanism and make sure we understand it it's those people the most kind of up in arm to say president trump make sure we fully understand what you're getting these guys in the room about then there's the thing of getting them in a room and having them musk and altman in this outright fight short commercial break birch gold | ||
| Welcome back to the North Carolina Network. | ||
| Noor, we've only got about eight minutes to go in this segment. | ||
| Tell me about the reaction of the Warren Posse in the base about what happened yesterday. | ||
| I just wanted to scale because it did explode. | ||
| Why was that? | ||
| Because the War Room Posse is very much aware of what is at stake here. | ||
| And the War Room Posse is very knowledgeable when it comes to the globalist cult and what their plans are. | ||
| And so when this announcement came through about this massive injection to build the databases for artificial intelligence, which would then lead to what we know will be mass surveillance, you know, as per... | ||
| Larry Ellison himself, you know, looking back at what he has said in the past of how he views and envisions society. | ||
| If I had to boil it down into one simple sentence, Steve, I think what we know is that the golden age, President Trump's golden age, what he said in his inaugural speech, is basically incompatible with the biohacking, gene editing, AI replacing techno-human age, you know, that Joe speaks so well about. | ||
| And we understand that the globalist play here is to really do this sort of augmentation of human beings via the implementation of the fourth industrial revolution, the so-called intelligent age. | ||
| And the implications, as Joe rightly said, are absolutely horrific for humanity. | ||
| Joe, when we think of... | ||
| Let a new age now begin, or the new order of the ages. | ||
| We had the party the other night and used the phrase off of the official kind of motto of the U.S., you know, a new order for the ages. | ||
| When President Trump thinks of, and that goes back to our revolutionary generation, the framers of the Constitution, the founders of our nation. | ||
| And President Trump thinks of a golden age. | ||
| And Nur bin Laden's there in Davos, and they're saying this is the intelligent age. | ||
| Are these things in conflict with one another? | ||
| Is Noor Bin Laden right? | ||
| Is that what Davos is looking for? | ||
| Do you think starkly different than what President Trump's thinking of when he thinks a new golden age for America? | ||
| Are they mutually exclusive? | ||
| Are they reinforcing? | ||
| I suppose there's a way you could imagine that they're coupled. | ||
| I mean, transhumanists oftentimes speak of it in terms of... | ||
| Enabling human flourishing, enabling human abilities, enabling human self-realization. | ||
| But ultimately, the promises of technology almost always have these dark underbellies that are usually not really accounted for in the beginning and are not really corrected until it's too late. | ||
| The Davos crowd talks about the intelligent age, where Sam Altman, you know, when they announced that, Sam Altman produced a post about the intelligence age. | ||
| Obviously, this is kind of a bit of coordination there, a very weird coincidence. | ||
| What they're talking about is digital intelligence. | ||
| And whether that's used to augment human intelligence or whether that's used to replace human intelligence, it is a dream that it's born of a kind of religious impulse to create. | ||
| A godlike entity. | ||
| When Masayoshi-san or Sam Altman is talking about a digital intelligence 10,000 times greater than human intelligence, that's a god. | ||
| Now, just really quickly, I just want to say that many people are very, very skeptical of that possibility, myself included. | ||
| So let's just say that all of this is fluff, all of this is hype, all of this is fraud. | ||
| What they are signaling, with President Trump unfortunately with them, is that you as a human being are going to be of less and less value as we move into the future and the machines will be of more value. | ||
| If they don't come through with their promises, then they've demoralized an entire generation of children and their parents, so on and so forth, to not see themselves as important. | ||
| Realize their dreams, God forbid. | ||
| Well, then that means the greater replacement. | ||
| That means that human beings are completely worthless. | ||
| All we are basically is either biofuel or entertainment or pets. | ||
| So I don't see, Trump's promise is human flourishing in America. | ||
| Their promise is the flourishing of machines. | ||
| So in my view, it's completely incompatible. | ||
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| Nor, what is your social media? | ||
| Very powerful. | ||
| Very disturbing. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| At NorbanLadin on X and NorbanLadin.substack.com Fantastic. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Thank you for standing up late for us. | ||
| We'll check with you tomorrow. | ||
| I'm announcing now we're going to open the show in Davos. | ||
| There's so much going on that interconnects with the White House. | ||
| We're going to get to Davos tomorrow, first thing. | ||
| Nora, thank you so much. | ||
| Joe, very disturbing, as usual. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| I know you're out. | ||
| Joe's working on another special project for us. | ||
| Where do they go to get your writings? | ||
| Where do they go to get a copy of your book? | ||
| You can find everything, signed copies of the book at jobot.xyz. | ||
| Sign up for the newsletter piece coming out tomorrow about the Stargate project itself, the wider implications, and of course, social media at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. | ||
| So thank you very much, Steve. | ||
| Thank you, Nor. | ||
| I think we'll track you down also tomorrow after the Stargate piece comes out. | ||
| We're going to want to talk about that. | ||
| Bop, bop, bop, with everything else going on. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break, come back at the top of the 6 o'clock hour. | ||
| I've got Steinman and Ezra. | ||
| Ezra's going to join me, Cohen, and they're going to talk about the National Security Council, what it's like to be inside it, but particularly with President Trump's going over the next couple of days. | ||
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| 168. A bold move from President Trump today. | ||
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