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Jan. 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4213: Repairing America First At Home Then Abroad
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lara logan
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steve bannon
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mark warner
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russ vought
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volodymyr zelenskyy
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mark warner
I would ask you, sir, can you show any evidence that somehow we would make our nation safer?
If you put your political litmus test and this idea of bringing trauma to the federal workforce by taking the intelligence community, which has been supported on a bipartisan basis.
Year in and year out, and somehow breaking it up and spreading it hither and yon, just for a political purpose?
How does that make our nation safer?
russ vought
Senator, I never proposed that, and the president has disassociated himself from Project 2025. It's a mischaracterization of...
mark warner
Okay, good.
We're here on the record.
You're going to commit to make sure...
I would argue you have to make a business case before you start breaking up the government.
I'm all for effectiveness.
Are you going to be willing here to commit not to undermine our national intelligence community by arbitrarily trying to break them up and spread them around just because you want to blow up the federal workforce in this region?
russ vought
Yes, Senator.
There's no policy process that the Trump administration had done that's producing arbitrary results.
Let me speak to the question that you raised with regard to my comments about the bureaucracy.
It was specifically in reference to the weaponized bureaucracy that we've seen certainly at the DOJ.
mark warner
And so you are the arbiter of who's weaponized and who's not?
You get, you know, again, I hope my colleagues will raise, I think, your completely irresponsible actions on so-called Schedule F. You know, we put a civil service in place.
But I urge you, sir, if you become in this position, think long and hard.
about the men and women of the national security and the intelligence community before you go on some political jihad of trying to score points by simply trying to break up an operation that actually functions better because of their close collaboration.
And your comments about the federal workforce I find disqualifying on its basis.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Senator Kennedy.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. - Good morning.
steve bannon
As divine providence would have it, I don't think we could have a better guest than Laura Logan.
Laura Logan, right there, you had one of the biggest blowhards, and somebody who's totally bought and paid for and completely controlled by the deep state.
That would be Senator Warner of my beloved home state, the Commonwealth of Virginia.
A complete, lightweight blowhard.
Right there, this is about the concept.
The intelligence community is a trillion-dollar absolute abject failure.
They never get anything right.
They didn't get 9-11 right.
They got the Iraq war wrong.
They made up information.
Israel, what happened on October 7th, the Ukraine war.
I can go through time after time after time after time Hong Kong with the Chinese Communist Party.
They've gotten everything about China wrong.
And actually, quite frankly, I think, you know, we lost 25 of our best agents.
Nobody wants to talk about that.
I think 25 to 50 of our best agents implants inside of China by a mole that we've never heard anything about.
The intelligence community is an abject failure.
Abject failure.
Not even close.
And you heard Warner right there.
They're getting to the heart of the beast because in Project 2025, and let's say they had all these different groups, but there was a consensus in the America First movement, as you know, Laura, because you're one of the leaders of this, that the intelligence community has to be broken up, has to be restructured, and this is what you were just talking about.
This is...
So important.
It's central.
If this is not done, you can solve the border, which they created.
You can solve the financial situation, which they're a big part of creating.
You can solve every different symptom of the problem, but you've got to get to the problem itself.
And Warner right there is going after the guy who is, you know, Doge.
You've got Doge over here, but Russ Vogt brings the heat, and he delivers the analysis, the analytics, and the numbers to President Trump to act upon.
So give me your rebuttal.
To Senator Mark Warner, ma'am.
lara logan
Well, one thing I would say, Steve, is you say the intelligence community has failed over and over again.
I would say that failure would be a free pass, right?
Because anybody can get things wrong.
I mean, intelligence is your best assessment based on what you know at the time.
But what we have witnessed happening goes far beyond that.
Remember, it was John Brennan, right, who attached the Christopher Steele dossier to a report that he put before members of Congress.
So he took a document that they, if you're talking about intelligence, there is no excuse.
For anyone not to have verified from the very beginning that this was a document that was paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign.
This was a political document that didn't contain a single first-hand witness.
It was obviously a lie.
So how can you put that forward as unverified intelligence when your job is to know whether this is politically motivated or not?
So what we have seen from the intelligence community is far, far worse than, oh, we got it wrong.
We made the wrong assessment.
Let's go back to Benghazi.
When Mike Morrell and all those others from the CIA said, oh, this was a movie.
Remember that?
They knew it wasn't a movie.
They were watching in real time as Ambassador Chris Stevens, the first United States ambassador who ended up being murdered in more than half a century.
They listened to him describing the terrorists that were attacking their compound.
Basically being hunted down and slaughtered.
So they already knew.
So they didn't just make a mistake.
They lied, okay?
And they did it for political reasons, and they did it intentionally.
And you want to know how resistant the intelligence community is to anyone who wants changes.
Well, let's take one example.
My friend, when he was head of the DAA, what did he want to do?
He wanted to take the power away from the analysts sitting in Washington, D.C., and he wanted to give that to the intelligence operatives that were out.
In the field, right?
What they were gathering intelligence on, they were living it, they were breathing it, they were seeing it with their own eyes.
And they didn't like that.
You know, Mike Vickers and these other people, these deep state bureaucrats, they had to get rid of Flynn the moment he started to do that.
Because what was he doing?
Upsetting the balance of power.
The CIA wanted to bring the Defense Intelligence Agency under their control.
Why?
Because they were briefing the lie that Al-Qaeda was finished, it was done, it was on the run.
This was the Obama administration's narrative.
And what did Mike Flynn do?
When he was head of DIA, he went on the Hill, he testified in front of Congress, and he said, ISIS has taken Fallujah, they've taken areas in Iraq, and they're going to take more territory, and they're a real threat.
What happened shortly after that?
Mosul fell.
And what did Obama come out and say?
He said publicly, in fact, on 60 Minutes, you know, that, oh, we thought that ISIS was a JV team.
Who thought that?
Who thought that?
Because we know for a fact from public recorded testimony that the Defense Intelligence Agency did not think anything of the salt.
But who was pushing that line?
The CIA was pushing that line.
They don't want anyone who's going to contradict their intelligence.
Why?
Because they are controlling the flow of information for political reasons.
Now, you could say, okay, well, that happens.
You know what I mean?
Any administration is going to work closely with the intelligence agencies.
There's going to be politics infused in that.
But this goes way beyond politics.
Look at the so-called 50-something intelligence officials that vouched that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.
We know they were lying.
They all knew that it wasn't.
They all knew that the entire Russia collusion narrative was a lie.
And I just, you know, for me personally, Steve, I'm a person, I can't stand injustice.
And I can't stand living with lies.
And when having to watch the Trump administration, the first time around, go through this charade, the millions of dollars that were spent on the special counsel investigation and all of this nonsense when every single person in the intelligence community already knew that it was nonsense.
How do we know that?
Ask Devin Nunes.
Because Devin Nunes went and looked at that intelligence, and he was the one who wrote that letter that rebuffed Adam Schiff.
And what did they do?
They all went up in arms.
Did you hear Mike Pompeo, when he was head of the CIA, standing up and saying, you know what?
We know definitively that Russia collusion was nonsense.
You didn't hear him do it.
This is a Democrat and Republican problem.
So when Senator Mark Warner says, well, this is bipartisan, right?
We've had bipartisan agreement.
No, what you have is bipartisan treason.
You have people on both sides of the aisle who have polluted and conspired in a seditious conspiracy to subvert the will of the American people and a legally elected president who has now, for the second time, actually for the third, been given a mandate from the people that they want this to end.
It is so ironic to me that they're going to stand up now, they're going to grandstand.
Get ready for all the fake moral outrage, okay?
Because you didn't hear any of that moral outrage when, oh, let's see, was the intelligence collapsed?
The national security failure that is an open border, right?
Wait, what about Afghanistan, where you've created a terrorist state?
You have now taken what was a terrorist group that was constantly on the back foot.
You've given them their own state.
There are tens of thousands.
Thousands of terrorists right now being trained in Afghanistan.
They have rebuilt their financial networks.
They've rebuilt their logistics chains.
And guess what?
We heard nothing from the intelligence community about the fact that the Biden administration left behind the...
Biometric capability, the keys to the biometric database, they left that in the hands of the terrorists in Afghanistan.
And that has allowed a terrorist regime to go into that database and alter the biometrics of trained, known terrorists.
Right?
And not only that, the State Department, they committed a massive intelligence failure because they left behind equipment that is used to verify another state's passport.
So now these terrorists not only change their identities, but they have official passports to travel all over the world in.
And many of them have infiltrated Europe.
They've infiltrated the United States.
I mean, look at the reports of all the Chinese and others who've been making incursions onto American bases.
For goodness sake, we are in the midst.
Of a national security crisis on about 50 different fronts.
And what do you hear from the intelligence community that Mark Warner is so worried about breaking up?
You hear absolutely nothing.
In fact, what you do hear about is you hear that there are people within the CIA who are refusing to go along with plans to use their relationship with terrorists like the Taliban and the Haqqani Network To use to create chaos and carry out attacks inside the United States and blame it on ISIS. That's actually the kind of information that's coming out because there are still somehow a few good people left in there.
The other thing that I would say just to close this is that Michael Flynn told me years ago the National Security Council It has been completely infiltrated.
It is way too big.
What happens when you expand?
Look at the DIA. How many tens of thousands of employees does it have now?
The CIA. As soon as you go big, your security...
Standards go down and the ability to infiltrate goes up.
If you look back at the Cold War, I think there were 20-something members of the National Security Council at the height of the Cold War.
And now there are hundreds of people.
Mike Flynn said if he had not been removed, he would have fired 90% of them.
In fact, he would probably have fired all of them and brought back about 20 specialists.
And then when you have a crisis, you bring in the people that you need.
The intelligence community has failed this country in every respect.
They allowed leak after leak after leak during Donald Trump's administration.
I don't care about them, you know, so-called getting it wrong on this and getting it wrong on that.
Anybody can make a genuine mistake.
But they're not making mistakes, Steve.
This is 100% by design.
These people have betrayed their country.
They've betrayed the oath of office.
And they have betrayed the people of this nation.
And we, the people, have stood up now and said, that's it.
We've had enough.
We're not doing this anymore.
And Donald Trump is the man who is brave enough.
And bold enough and smart enough to take this on.
But he is going to be besieged by legal challenges.
The little rats.
They're already out.
The little rats like Norm Eisen and the David Brocks and the Michael Teeters of the 65 Project.
They're going to use the law and use the media to cripple this president and undermine him every chance they get.
Along with the deep state and the bureaucracy and intelligence agencies are in the lead of that effort.
steve bannon
The man and his cause.
We're not going to allow that to happen because we have Lara Logan.
We have Lara Loomer.
We have Julie Kelly.
Those are kind of the avenging angels.
Lara, where do people go to get your content?
Social media, website, podcast, all over.
Where do they go?
unidentified
laralogan.com or at laralogan on X. And coming soon, Going Rogue with Lara Logan, my podcast.
steve bannon
Going Rogue.
Can't wait.
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
lara logan
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
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steve bannon
Okay, tonight at 6, we're going to have Ezra Cohen and Josh Steinman, who are with us in the first Trump administration.
We're going to talk about the change of command.
When National Security Council comes in, we come with new people.
You essentially relieve the watch.
And they've said, you know, they put out publicly, the Secretaries of the Army, I think the Air Force and the Navy, that we roughly have 150,000 troops spread out to 150. Entities, countries, and bases throughout the world.
So you make sure that you understand where all that is.
They're going to walk through what happens in the first day of the National Security Council and what goes on when you actually have this kind of change of command when the new president comes in.
It's fascinating.
They also teach you process about how the decision-making process of how America defends itself.
You don't want to miss us.
Two guys are just fantastic and with General Flynn.
The story about General Flynn is correct.
I had Mike went down with Jared.
I stayed up in New York and they went down to see Obama with then-President-elect Trump, I think the second day after we won.
I told Mike, I said, let's get our arms quickly around the NSC. He came back.
Now, after sea duty, I'd been in the Pentagon as a young officer with the Chief of Naval Operation and his deputies.
At that time, this is in 81, I showed up the day after Reagan's first inaugural.
Yes, that was the first one done on the west side of the Capitol, so they have that Michael Devers, all those guys being ad guys, marketing guys coming from Hollywood, wanted that huge stage for Reagan because he wanted a big stage.
He was an actor.
In 81, you go over there, and I think the National Security Council was 25 or 30 people.
This is the largest at 20. I think it had gotten up to like 25. It ran the world.
One of the big processes, one of the tensions in what they call the building, one of the tensions in the building in the White House was that the National Security Council, and Reagan went out of his way getting Richard V. Allen in his National Security Advisor to get away from, you know, Henry Kissinger, Zigbee Brzezinski, those are the two back-to-back kind of...
Dr. Strangelove types, the great global thinkers, the strategists, the chess players.
Reagan wanted to get something very simple.
Evil empire, Russia, Soviet Union, evil empire, evil empire bad, evil empire going to go down.
Let's keep it simple.
We win, they lose, I think he told Richard V. Allen.
When Mike came back that day, I said, let's get the org charts.
He comes in, he's got a stack of stuff like that.
Big, huge.
I said, Mike, I didn't ask for the entire national security apparatus, the Pentagon, the security, anything like that.
I just asked for the NSC. He says, this is the NSC. 292 billets.
Two-thirds of those, or 70, 75% of those, were what they call detailees.
These are from the other, you know, because they have to get the...
The fetish is the interagency process.
The two fetishes that you see inside the government is the post-war international rules-based order and the interagency process.
That's the deep state and the administrative state agreeing on what they agree on counter to you or to water it down or if they put something in there to leak it.
That's the way it rolls.
To leak it in the Washington Post and they go, oh, and Rachel Maddow, they're on TV and they got David Ignatius on Morning Joe.
These Trump people don't know what they're doing.
That's the system.
I said, Mike, we've got to get this down.
First off, we don't have even a deep enough bench to start off with 30 or 40 guys.
We've got to get this thing down to get a focus.
And that's when they removed Mike Flynn.
When Mike Flynn started doing that, that's when they removed him.
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Okay, big things happening in Davos.
We've got our own Nora Ben Laden.
Let's play a cold open.
We have a cold open for Nora.
Not that she needs a cold open because it's quite cold over there.
Almost cold here.
here.
Let's go and play it.
unidentified
Very quickly.
It's not about somebody who is staying, just staying, and something like some forces.
No.
I'm not supportive of this idea.
volodymyr zelenskyy
I'm supporting the idea of contingence, like a part of security guarantees, because if they have one million point five army, and if we will have less two times, it means that we need contingence with a very...
unidentified
A strong number of soldiers.
200,000.
200,000.
From all the Europeans.
200,000, it's a minimum.
It's a minimum.
Otherwise, it's nothing.
Otherwise, it's something, you know, like somebody, like we had OSCE, and nobody knew where they can help you.
Just they had offices, and that's all.
steve bannon
Okay, he gave this talk in the press conference afterwards at Davos.
Remember, he was the rock star there a couple of years ago.
He ain't such a rock star anymore.
Report from Davos.
Nora Bin Laden.
Nora, he said minimum of 200,000.
I've told folks this.
President Trump demanded a ceasefire today.
Set the framework.
I don't know, tomorrow?
Let's get the hell out of there.
Minimum of 200,000 combat troops as a security force or a security force, which is the same thing, to defend Zelensky and his oligarchs and the money they've stolen from the West.
Your thoughts, ma'am, and how's it playing at Davos?
noor bin laden
Listen, it's becoming very redundant covering the West because he just rolls up every year asking for the same thing, more money and more troops.
And he's also always playing on, you know, the guilt strings of European member states.
And this year was no different.
He even called, aside from 200,000 troops, he called for more NATO funding.
And actually, CNN published an article entitled, Why is Zelensky reading Trump's script to Europe elites?
And I just want to quote from the article and from Zelensky's speech yesterday at Davos.
he said the following, all European countries must be willing to spend as much on security as it is truly needed, not just as much as they've gotten used to during the years of neglect.
If it takes 5% of GDP to cover defense, then so be it.
5% it is.
Sounds familiar, Steve, asking NATO member states to pay their dues.
It's just the same.
He was meeting with the president of the Swiss Confederation today as well, because that's what he does every year, also asking my country for more financing and support.
And let's see what happens now that there is a new president in Washington, D.C. that will...
Hopefully end this conflict very swiftly.
steve bannon
Nora, we're going to get to overall Davos, but I want to start with Zelensky because it shows you the hypocrisy.
Here's the thing.
The monster they created has now turned on them.
They won't do 2%, and if they even get close to 2%, or now they're saying 3%, it's all gun-decked.
All the spending's phony.
It's phony spending.
Zelensky, the little monster they created, is saying, hey!
He's trying to be a mini-Trump.
Hey, you know, during the years of neglect, puts it right up in their grill.
During the years of neglect, basically when they were supporting him and before, you need 5%.
They spend 5% of their GDP, which, hey...
Who knows?
If they think the Russians are that big a threat, they ought to spend 5%.
But if they spent 5%, they wouldn't have universal health care.
They wouldn't have child care.
They wouldn't have daycare.
They wouldn't retire at 50. They wouldn't have virtually free universities.
They wouldn't have these great pensions and the 30-day vacation.
They wouldn't have it because they couldn't afford it.
What's so beautiful about this, and this is why...
Folks in the United States, the people that are supporting this punk in the halls of Congress and giving me more money that's never accounted for and never audited and his oligarch buddies are stealing with both hands and he's stealing with both hands.
They're doing it because they want to keep the arms merchants fully, they want to keep the factory floors full production.
They're making money on this thing.
You got a million dead Ukrainians.
A million dead or wounded.
You got 750,000 Russians.
The President and I disagree on that.
A couple hundred thousand.
Although he gave me the million number.
A million seven.
Looks like Dresden.
The Ukrainians don't want their 18-year-old kids going because they know it's just going into the charnel houses.
It doesn't mean anything.
It's not going to change anything.
Your kid's going to get killed for nothing.
They understand that.
And Zelensky is now lecturing his masters.
He's biting the hand that fed it.
Short commercial break.
Norah Bin Laden on the other side.
Is Davos on fire or is it sleepy?
Well, ask her.
The intrepid Norah Bin Laden.
Shirt break.
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steve bannon
Today's show, let's go through the lineup.
Laura Loomer starting off breaking a big story on H-1B visas, on the murder of a Customs and Border Patrol agent by a German H-1B visa, who you saw in his resume.
It's a total scam.
He gets over here, he's working with this company, he's not doing anything more special than any, I could throw a stick and hit 10,000 Americans who could do it, but he's working for a third less.
He then works as a trader.
He works for a trading company.
You know, trading.
It does a little technology.
This is all a scam.
So that's Laura Loomer on H-1Bs.
Then we've got Julie Kelly, of course, on J6, all her great information, breaking news.
Laura Logan came back on Jeremy Brown, but really we got into the deep state and we cut into Russ Vogt being lit up by Warner.
About, oh, you can't touch the intelligence, you can't touch it.
You can't do, he called it a political jihad.
Hey, bro, you ain't seen a jihad yet.
We're going through, we're going to take it apart.
That's deconstructing the administrative state and the deep state.
We don't care what the pencil necks like Mark Warner say.
You're not relevant.
You're in the minority.
You don't even want to show up anymore.
Oh, I got it.
The Senate, the filibuster.
I got it.
Okay, so we had Logan, three.
Nora bin Laden from Davos, and she's all on Zelensky.
And the scams there.
And we're going to have Cameron Kinsey in a moment about making sure the IRS doesn't ruin your life.
It's not a bad lineup.
Norah Bin Laden.
Media and all the saying, oh, Davos is now not cool, not hip.
You got empty seats there.
It's not hot like it used to be because of the populist nationalist uprising.
They don't know how to deal with it.
And they still focus on artificial intelligence.
Your thoughts, ma'am?
noor bin laden
Before we get into that, Steve, closing on the Zelensky issue, I sent the team pictures, a tweet of mine with pictures that I took yesterday in Davos of Ukraine House.
So every year they take this specific spot over Ukraine and they have different side events take place and they always have.
The facade dressed up.
And I wanted to show you this because speaking of the hypocrisy, total hypocrisy of Zelensky and the entire farce that is this war, it couldn't be symbolized better than with this banner that they put up stating your country first.
So, first of all, I remember it for all these years being taboo to say, you know, your country first, or more specifically, America first.
And now they're putting that front and center on that wall.
wall.
And it is such a slap in the face, considering that close to 200 billion dollars, almost 200 billion dollars of U.S. taxpayer dollars have gone to this war or been laundered back into the pockets of the unit party members. almost 200 billion dollars of U.S. taxpayer dollars have gone
Meanwhile, you have the victims of Hurricane Helene, of Maui, of the L.A. fires that are still not, you know, out of the woods by any means, still freezing to death in North Carolina.
For example, and where is their money?
It clearly isn't America first when you consider all the money that was sent to this puppet that is Zelensky.
And his country.
So that was very shocking to me to see that walking around.
steve bannon
You have Ukraine house there.
You have Ukraine house to give you the, you know, the cappuccinos and all that.
And now they're trying to do a SIOP or gasoline.
Has anybody there, does Davos man take accountability for the 1.8 million minimum dead and wounded on both sides in Ukraine?
Do they take any responsibility?
Mersheimer warned us.
You're going to lead these people down the primrose path, and then the elites in the West are going to cut them loose when it gets uncomfortable, when it gets too tough, and that they're going to fight until the last Ukrainian is dead.
Does Davos man take any responsibility for this debacle on the Ukrainian people, who are good, solid people that have been destroyed in this process?
Do they take any responsibility, any accountability, Nora?
noor bin laden
Absolutely zero.
Absolutely none.
They are, in fact, the ones pushing for this war to drag on ever since it first started.
They have no intention of resolving this conflict swiftly.
On the contrary, they have everything to gain in terms of the money that they are making off of this conflict when you look at the military-industrial complex.
But moreover, and I discussed this with you, The previous years, looking at what they are wanting to rebuild in Ukraine, this techno-digital state, you know, with the total digitization of government services, their different plans, which are also being funded by U.S. taxpayer dollars, as I reported on last year.
So, no, zero care for the people that are dying or that have died.
steve bannon
So, is Davos a hot ticket?
This is a tight ticket now.
Trump did not go.
They were talking about Trump going the first week.
He had stuff to do here, and now he's going to North Carolina.
We're going to try to have the North Carolina team, the folks down there in western North Carolina, on the evening show.
Tonight, Todd Benson is also going to talk to us about all kinds of massive things going on in the border and in Washington, D.C., and make sure in Chicago, throughout the country, it's wild.
And like I said, the two national security experts are going to be with us to walk you, the audience, through what it's like to be in the NSC and what to look for over the next couple of days.
Nora, is it a tight ticket or has it gotten sleepy?
Is it still as hot as it was?
I know artificial intelligence, they're still pushing.
Put us in the room there.
noor bin laden
Listen, I've seen those reports and those pictures claiming that, you know, it's sleepy and the WEF is over, etc.
I'm not sure.
To me, being on the ground, it just feels like business as usual.
The crowd is, I would say, more subdued than previous years in the sense that they kind of knew what to expect coming to Davos this year compared to last year.
You remember, Steve, they woke up so shocked at the absolute victory of Donald J. Trump during the Iowa primaries.
And so that's all they could talk about.
And they were so defeated by that crushing victory.
Now, you know, the mood is very different.
They've had since.
November 5th to prepare psychologically for January 20th.
So, as I said, it's just business as usual.
And looking at the panels, listening at what they have to say, it's just a regurgitation of the messaging and the agenda like the previous years with AI, with the technological innovations.
Being the main focus, climate change, once more, because that's, you know, the main excuse that they are using to usher in the techno-digital age, the so-called intelligent age, as a pretext, you know, the carbon credits, excuse me, and all of that, the digital IDs.
This is very much the known WEF agenda being continued.
steve bannon
Since we crushed them on Build Back Better, since you just announced it, I know we'll get you on later in the week talking about the World Health Organization.
We pulled out of that.
We pulled out of the Climate Accord.
President Trump is going to have much more to combat the World Economic Forum.
Do they feel that they're losing here, that the forces of the populist nationalist uprising is actually ascendant?
Do you think that's sunk in yet, or are they still in denial?
noor bin laden
No, it's very much still a concern of theirs in terms of misinformation and disinformation being named the top one threat over the next couple of years in the WEF Global Risks Report.
The German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on record yesterday during his address calling for the censorship of quote extreme right-wing rhetoric.
So they're not letting up on this whole disinformation, misinformation pretext to basically crush our speech.
And in terms of other disappointments, let's put it that way, with the rise of our movement and national populism and the different ramifications of...
President Trump's return to the White House.
Yes, they were absolutely crying about the executive order to leave the Paris Accords.
There were several narrow meltdowns on several panels this week regarding that.
steve bannon
Nur bin Laden, where can we keep up with you?
We'll have you on tomorrow's show at the top of it.
Where can we go to catch you in the meantime?
noor bin laden
My sub-stack, norbinladen.substack.com, and my ex, Nora Bin Laden, I seldom tweet, except during events like this, because I believe that it's a very rotten platform, but we can discuss this more at length when we talk about the techno bros and Elon Musk.
We share the same, we share the similar opinions when it comes to certain characters, you and I, Steve.
steve bannon
Well, it's, you know, I'll get into the FT. We have to spend some time with that audience.
unidentified
We will.
steve bannon
There's so much stuff going on.
I want to keep you ahead of the wave while it's happening.
But, you know, Elon's out now.
So President Trump has this thing yesterday.
As you know, we're not big believers in a lot of foreign capital coming in here.
We're just not.
We think we've got enough capital, and what foreign capital brings influence and brings power.
President Trump, I think, is showing the fact that...
In turning around, people want to back his play and invest here, and that's great.
I love that, whether it comes to fruition.
But he has three guys up there yesterday.
He has OpenAI, has Oracle, and he has SoftBank.
And I'm not a big fan of OpenAI, and I'm certainly not a fan of the SoftBank guy.
I think he's a promoter.
He always talks about what he's going to do and how much money he's going to put in.
The jobs never materialize.
But he's very well known in the venture capital and private equity community.
And President Trump, and we covered it live.
We covered President Trump's opening remarks talking about this $500 billion AI infrastructure play, Stargate.
I think part of it's going to be built in Texas, so got some positive things there.
And we cut away and come back to me for doing my shtick, right, when the business guys are up there, because they're just going to give you the pep talk, and President Trump gives it to me, and he comes back and does H-1Bs.
He gives like a two-hour press conference.
We take almost the entire evening show, dipping in and out of it because it's so great.
Then Elon, and President Trump's up there, hey, it's $500 billion, $100 billion a year.
You got three guys, they're all a thing, and Elon comes out a little while ago and says, oh, but hey, they only got $10 billion, and it's all a scam, and it's not happening, and they don't have any money.
I don't know.
I don't know.
The Romans have a phrase for that.
It summarizes, the thing speaks for itself.
The thing speaks for itself.
Just go over Twitter and see Brother Elon.
Not quite on message, bro.
I mean, this is when you have a White House staff.
Everybody kind of gets around the theme of the day or that.
And, you know, if the President of the United States goes out there, we disagree with the President on topics, and the President knows where we disagree.
We didn't get a chance to play, but the President steps up to the podium at first and says, hey, I understand and see both sides of the argument.
He says that at the very beginning.
I understand and see both sides of the argument, H-1B, that chasm that's between what Musk and the techno-bros, the techno-fuelists stand for, and what the populist nationalists stand for.
But we disagree.
We disagree with the president on the bills and this and that, but these are done in the spirit of comradeship and collegiality and trying to make it, we think, a little bit better by thinking about it this way.
But hey...
When the man finally makes a decision and rolls, you roll.
That's why we're supporting these cabinet nominations.
We may, you know, sometimes love supporting it more than other times.
But President Trump's the leader, so when he does something like that yesterday, and we're not excited about it, you don't come out and put a tweet up, hey, they only got 10 billion.
Nothing to see there.
Not good.
Let me say it differently.
Not the best.
Not the best.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
steve bannon
There's a lot on the Stargate situation at Noor Bin Laden's going to join us back here at 5. I want to tee it up.
Noor, give me a minute on this before you bounce, ma'am.
noor bin laden
Yeah, I think it's really important that we talk about what happened yesterday.
We only covered the beginning of the press conference, but there's much more to say, first of all, about these characters that were up there, the infighting, as you mentioned, between Elon and Sam Altman of OpenAI, the relationship between Larry Ellison and Elon Musk.
There's lots to get into, so let's do that later.
That would be great.
steve bannon
Okay.
She's going to rejoin us at 5. It's quite late in Davos, but this is her big week.
Norbin Laden, real quickly, social media so people can follow you in the interim, ma'am.
noor bin laden
Norbin Laden.substack.com and Norbin Laden on X. Okay, thank you, ma'am.
steve bannon
Before I play this thing, Tom Holman just reported that ICE has arrested 308 illegal...
308 aliens on day one of President Trump's return to sanity here.
308 illegal aliens arrested by Tom Holment on day one.
Let's play.
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson agrees with Tom Fenton in War Room.
Let's play it.
unidentified
It was shocking.
I mean, it was shocking what President Biden did on the way out.
Pardoning his family for more than a decade of whatever activity, any nonviolent offenses.
It was breathtaking to us.
I don't think anything like that's ever been anticipated.
And by the way, go look at the tape.
mike johnson
Four years ago, when it was just implied that President Trump might do something similar, they were apoplectic.
unidentified
Joe Biden himself, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer, roll the tape.
They all said that would be crazy and unconscionable.
And now they're cheering it along.
To us, it is disgusting.
To us, it probably proves the point, the suspicion, that, you know, they call it the Biden crime family.
If they weren't the crime family, why do they need pardons, right?
Look, there's a lot of attention that's going to be paid to this, and I think that is appropriate, and we will be looking at it as well.
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Wow, right there.
That's a start in Congress.
Let's get on it.
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Cameron Kinsey, an alumni of 45. Thank you very much, ma'am.
Keep fighting.
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unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
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