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donald j trump
Great geniuses, all three.
steve bannon
It's an honor that they want to come to our country.
We're going to jump back with the president.
We've got breaking news.
First off, President Trump dropped one bond with the other.
For the audience, huge win.
President Trump has announced he's going to go to North Carolina first on his way to California.
You remember when we were in Appalachia last week with the great Ben Berkwan.
Ben, let me bring you in, sir.
You, more than anybody, deserves credit for this.
Was it Haven Hill?
All the groups you were down there.
You know, you went to Tennessee.
You went to North Carolina.
It was amazing.
And for the folks out there, we'll get them up tomorrow, Ben, with you.
Give me your thoughts when you hear the President of the United States saying, hey, guess what?
I'm going to go to North Carolina.
What's happening out there with those folks and what Biden's done with FEMA is not right.
Ben Burquam.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a long time coming.
These guys have been abandoned for four years, excuse me, four months by...
Joe Biden and the Democrats.
The hurricane there is just...
If you haven't been there, to see what these guys are living in, in the tents, in the freezing cold, it's just...
It's horrific.
It's horrific.
And to have President Trump in his first day, first full day back in office, saying he's going to go down there and actually do what a president should do and put the citizens of America first over illegal aliens and over sending billions of dollars to Ukraine.
It just shows who President Trump is.
So it's big news.
As soon as actually he announced that, I got a text from Tyler saying, hey, he's coming, he's coming.
So these guys can't come soon enough.
North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, these guys are hurting, they're freezing, and they need President Trump's help.
steve bannon
Ben, I'll get on with you afterwards.
Maybe we get some of the guys in North Carolina, men and women, down there on the phone.
Your clips and the great two days you spent there with those heroes and what they've done.
President Trump, the clips have gotten over to the team.
So just amazing the coverage you did.
Anything else, Ben?
We're going to let you go on what's happening in the Gulag.
Can you give us an update?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll let Josh.
I'm here with Josh Macias of J6 Vets.
Josh, and hopefully you can hear.
We're using one headphone.
Hopefully you can hear.
Just give us an update on where we're at.
Right now, we're waiting for everybody to be released.
There's 15 of them that we know have their final packets to get out.
From On Your Sixth Foundation, we stay with our veterans, ensuring that every man gets home.
This van is picking up those who are homeless in our Safe Haven program.
We help those in outreach to get them back on the feet again.
and we're doing the same with our Safeway House, Safe Haven House, and helping with our Halfway House battle buddies.
We're down in On Your Six Relief, helping with North Carolina, with those that are homeless, and we're helping to do the good work of Vets First and America First policies.
We're making sure right now that everyone is in there, is getting out, and we're fighting the good fight for any of the issues that have resolved to get them out of there right now.
And again, we just got word, and who knows if Nichols was watching your show, Breaking news, about 18 minutes ago, Judge Nichols finally signed those orders.
And within the next few minutes, these guys, 15 of them at least, should be getting released.
It's unknown.
Maybe more will be a part of that, but at least those first 15 will be released.
steve bannon
Okay, Ben, hang around.
Talk to producer Cameron as soon as we know.
That's Judge Nichols.
Finally got the heads up, and he's signing orders.
Ben, we'll come back to you if there's any more release.
Thank you, brother.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
Let's go to the great Julie Kelly.
Julie Kelly joins us.
The person had more than anything to do with these hostages, these prisoners being released.
Her coverage over the last four years and what President Trump's team thinks of her coverage in these stories, one after the other.
Julie, your thoughts today, ma'am?
julie kelly
To see the D.C. Gulag.
Never, Steve, when I started reporting on this and covering, I think, letting people know for the first time that the D.C., that the mayor...
Had set aside part of the D.C. jail just for Trump supporters, and they were being hauled there from prisons from after their arrest, their homes across the country to go there.
So seeing them being released after President Trump's courageous, remarkable decision last night, never in my wildest dreams would I ever have thought that something like this would be happening.
I'm not sure what the holdup is with Judge Nichols, your judge.
But obviously they're all going to be released.
And also remarkable to see J6ers who have been released in other prisons, instead of going directly home, going to Washington to support those who are still behind bars.
steve bannon
Julie Kelly, Tom Fenton was on today.
today, he's saying, hey, look, the way the sloppy nature, the way the pardons were written, they have to be executed by Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche in the team, Team Trump over the Justice Department.
Tom Fitton is one of the most revered guys in our movement.
Over at Judicial Watch is advising President Trump to say, hey, look, particularly the J-6 Committee, which he thinks is the worst of the worst, that that should not be effectuated and that we should move forward immediately on a massive investigation that people should immediately have Johnson should put a vote up for the House that should be voted down of anything.
The Historical Committee should be repurposed now.
But in addition...
That the pardon should be junked and the investigation into their crimes and the crimes of their staff.
Staff members of J6 understand people are going to be looking into the details in depth.
Your thoughts, ma'am?
julie kelly
Well, absolutely.
And I think that they should pursue their own investigation into January 6th.
All the unanswered questions.
Why did they never find the pipe bomber?
What happened to all the deleted secret service texts, including those belonging to disgraced former?
Chief Kim Cheadle, who has had protective services that day.
How many FBI informants or otherwise undercover officers from multiple law enforcement agencies?
We know that they were there.
In what capacity were they there?
Who told them to go there?
Were they acting like Trump supporters?
Did they incite the crowd?
We also have evidence of that.
So they need a full-scale investigation into January 6th.
And of course, I would still continue investigating the committee and the crimes that were committed there.
Obviously, they will be protected from criminal liability, but that does not mean you could take the ball right up to the one-yard line and advance it there and leave it there for the world to see.
The report needs to be rescinded.
steve bannon
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
Tom Fenton's saying something different.
Tom Fenton's saying, hey, if the Justice Department does not execute and effectuate those pardons, that, hey, they can bring them up in their trials, but you should go forward.
What about Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Matthew Graves, who are not covered by even the controversy of pardon?
What's your recommendation to the Justice Department and President Trump about that cast of characters?
julie kelly
Well, immediately open investigations into them for selective, addictive.
Prosecution.
That's a real thing.
The violation, as Mike Davis has said, conspiracy to deny the rights of American citizens, which absolutely happened in this prosecution.
Also, what sort of collusion to that point, a conspiracy?
How much did that involve the Biden White House?
Joe Biden did not pardon himself.
He didn't pardon White House staff like his general counsel.
They were all in cahoots to systematically conspire and deny the rights of American citizens through this prosecution and, of course, Donald Trump as well.
There's plenty of statutes that can be used against Mayor Garland, Lisa Monaco, Matthew Graves, line prosecutors, etc.
So this, as we said this morning, Steve, this can't be the end.
This is simply the beginning of pardons that President Trump signed last night.
And, you know, it's amazing to see motions to dismiss existing cases.
I think we talked this morning.
There was a case that was supposed to go to the jury today, and the new DCO's attorney, Ed Martin, immediately dismissed the indictment against that individual, and he gets to go home.
steve bannon
Fabulous.
What amazing.
Jury instructions are going home.
Julie Kelly, where do people get you on social media?
Your work and efforts of this are paying off, but like you said, it's just the beginning.
Now the hunters become the hunted.
Julie Kelly, where do people go?
julie kelly
So, my subset declassified with Julie Kelly, Real Clear Investigations, part of Real Clear Politics, and Julie underscore Kelly, too, on X. Thank you, ma'am.
steve bannon
Appreciate you.
Julie Kelly, the great Julie Kelly.
Thank you, ma'am.
I'll try to get you back on here tomorrow.
President Trump, what we're going to be doing is going into it.
Tell him that perfectly.
Kind of saw President Trump wrapping up.
President Trump has so much information.
Let's talk about some information that came there.
Number one, HB1 visas.
President Trump's going to say, I understand the arguments of both sides.
I still like competent people.
President Trump, love you.
We got more than enough competent people here.
We still...
We still ask of Elon Musk or Bezos or Zuckerberg to show us any.
They've got millions over here.
Show us any.
We mean any.
Show us an H-1B visa that's got a billet that you don't have American that is qualified by either academic training or experience.
Just show us.
Argument's been going on for four months.
By the way, the argument went back for years.
Back before President Trump became president in 2016. Guess what?
Never show this one.
You know why?
It doesn't exist.
It's like a unicorn.
And they keep saying they want the nomenclature.
Remember how it was wash, rinse, repeat.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
And psychological and a psyop and information warfare.
What do they talk about?
They talk about, oh, high quality, you know, skilled workers, skilled foreign workers.
No.
It has nothing to do with the skill level.
The skill level is the same or lower.
What it is, it's quite simple.
It's one-third to 50% less in pay for the same work, and the folks are compliant.
They're indentured servants.
They come over here and, you know, they're going to be compliant, living six to a house, six to a condo, working 20 hours a day as indentured servants.
We settled the situation about slavery and indenture and servitude in, I don't know, the 19th century.
I think we had a thing called the Civil War.
Memory serves me correctly.
We can't be doing that in the 21st century.
We're not going to let the techno-feudalists create more serfs, digital serfs.
We don't need that.
What we need is free men and free women holding those jobs.
For the president, once again, President Trump, we love you, we support you, we're your platform, but...
unidentified
Simple.
steve bannon
Shut the program down.
Deport immediately all H-1B visa holders, unless you can show any of them that can do a job that an American can't do.
If not, they all go home and fill those jobs immediately with, wait for it, American citizens.
How's that?
Is it good?
President Trump did sign an EO. We're trying to go through it, but I think it's made the whole process of H-1B more difficult.
Right now I'm seeing tweets and analysis attached to those tweets saying, hey, people would have to be here 21 plus years now to get a green card.
We're liking that, but we'd like more just to terminate the program.
A complete 100% moratorium on all, underline all, immigration.
Every immigration, there's no legal immigration in this country.
They either come invited up by the Biden regime, the globalists, into the country, I don't know, 12 or 15 million, to suppress wages of African Americans and Hispanics that are kind of stuck in these lower-skilled jobs.
It's to suppress your wages.
They brag about it.
The Federal Reserve brags about it.
President Trump has initiated the program to turn that around.
But there's no legal...
Every visa program is totally...
First of all, if it's good, they'd be out there, you can understand it.
No, they obscure it.
It's so complicated.
Why?
Complexity is to obscure it from American citizens so people can't understand it.
That's what has to be a moratorium.
Just have a moratorium, six months, and then we come out to the American people and explain what these are.
And the American people support it.
Yes, that's smart.
We need these people.
Right now, they said we need all these great engineers, everything like that.
Well, look, the paperclip program brought in 1,200 Russian engineers among tens of thousands of German rocket scientists.
Okay, we got the Mercury program and the Apollo program.
I get it.
Maybe those folks are out there.
I also don't like the concept that we've got to suck in the best and the brightest.
We don't.
That is kind of intellectual imperialism.
As nationalists, as popular nationalists, we want all the world to thrive.
We want every nation on Earth to thrive.
We want every nation on Earth to find its own destiny, its own manifest destiny.
There's only one way you can do it.
There are great folks come here, right?
Instead of putting, when they go to the great universities, instead of putting a, what is it, a green card stapling to it, we have a recommendation.
President Trump, in full love, brotherhood, and support, put an exit visa.
30 days, go home.
Make your country great again.
And for community colleges and technical colleges, how about this?
Not one foreign national in any of those schools.
That is only for American citizens.
You want to break the apartheid state that is Silicon Valley?
Let's be frank.
Let's be brutally frank.
The progressive left, because they're all progressive Democrats, they're all progressive Democrats.
Their Damascene moment, their road to Damascus came at about, I don't know, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock on the 5th of November, Eastern Standard Time, when Pennsylvania went to President Trump and it was all over, game, set, match, big old long face on...
On Rachel Maddow, big tear coming down Joy Ann Reed.
That's when Bezos and Zuckerberg, they all became MAGA. They all became MAGA. All the oligarchs, all the broligarchs, all became MAGA. Elon was with us beforehand.
He wrote checks.
He put his shoulder to the wheel.
He gets a place at the table.
That table shouldn't be in the West Wing.
Table shouldn't be in the cabinet room.
He shouldn't be at the head of the table, but he should have a voice.
He got that.
We're big boys and girls.
But we're never going to back off this.
American citizens, like President Trump's concept of trade is that America is like the golden door.
It's the preferred.
You've got to pay a premium like a sports seat or for a theater.
Right?
Prefer to get through the golden door.
unidentified
It's the preferred.
steve bannon
You just announced 25% tariffs on Mexico.
25% tariffs on China.
I think 10% tariffs on Canada.
Those are our three largest trading partners.
I think $2 trillion.
If you add that up, I think that's the math.
I might be wrong.
That's a lot of money.
The same thing should be for American citizens.
American citizens, you get a special deal.
Why do you have a special deal?
Well, let me think about this.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
The entire world's economic system, the post-war international rules-based order that's gamed every day by the globalists, gamed every day by the lords of easy money on Wall Street and the city of London, you prop it up.
It's your decency, your hard work, your self-organizing, it's the Kiwanis Club, it's the Girl Scouts, it's the Little League, it's the churches, it's the cops, it's the teachers, it's the nurses.
You.
You are the full faith and credit of the United States government.
It's not the FTC, it's not the SEC, it's not the Federal Reserve, it's not the Treasury Department.
You are the full faith and credit of the United States government.
Of the United States.
This is why this market's so liquid.
Why do they want to buy bonds over here?
Why do they want to buy stocks over here?
Because you know what?
They know they're going to get their money back.
They may make a bad investment, but by and large, they're going to get their money back with a return.
Why?
Because of your common decency and hard work.
No magic here.
Oh, and oh, by the way, the trillion dollar defense bill that we just passed or the 900 billion NDAA, it's your kids.
It's working class and middle class kids of every ethnicity, race, religion in this country.
You're on patrol in the Hindu Kush.
You're on the carrier battle groups in the Red Sea, keeping the Suez Canal open that gets straight into Europe from the Persian Gulf.
Right?
For the elites at Kestad, another place that live fat, dumb, and happy.
It's your kids in the carrier battle groups in the South China Sea.
It's your sons and daughters of the 28,000 combat troops in Korea, South Korea.
All of it.
It's all you.
You support it.
The world's system is supported on your shoulders.
The security of the world is supported on your shoulders.
In Romania right now is a brigade of 101st Airborne.
Sons and daughters of people listening to the show, watching the show.
It's got to change.
We're going to go to Mexico.
Oscar Blue Ramirez.
Oscar, first off, tell us about the CP1. Everything has happened.
You called it.
But also, brother, what's going to happen when President Trump slaps a 25% tariff on everything coming from Mexico, sir?
unidentified
Well, they need to understand, Steve, we have been talking about it, that if the Mexican government does not stop the flow of enormous fentanyl that is coming in through the United States borders, and also the massive flow.
Just yesterday, a massive caravan left the south border again, more than 2,000.
So, you know, the pedal needs to be on this 25% tariff.
They need to be implemented, whether they like it or not.
These dirty politicians in Mexico, they need to learn.
You need to hit them in the pockets and make them understand that, like they say in the United States, Steve, A new sheriff in town, and they're calling the shots, and they need to understand that they need to slow down the pace.
steve bannon
What about this executive order that was signed to designate the cartels as terrorist organizations?
I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Oscar, you've talked about this a long time.
I think this gives us the ability to have interdiction given certain types of situations and things you have to qualify for.
That this gives the ability for paramilitary and maybe special forces interdiction into Mexico itself.
Is that your understanding of it, sir?
unidentified
It has some parameters, but also it has to have some arrangement with the Constitution of Mexico.
Ultimately, that's the number one situation where it has to be designated and talk to the Mexican president.
But the most important thing, Steve, is that the United States of America and the Trump administration has the most power right now.
Now they have the two campaigns in their possession.
One of them is El Mayo Zambada, that is the campaign of the Sinaloa cartel.
And the other one is El Chapo Guzman.
They have the power to find out and to take over, you know, basically where these bank accounts, how the massive flow of synthetic drugs that is coming to the United States of America, and basically find out who is controlling the country of Mexico.
The Trump administration has nobody in the United States of America in history has never had this amount of power over the demands and also over the information that is coming from the Mexican country.
received.
steve bannon
One of the ones that you talked about for years, I actually had some people in Canada today, and they said, Oscar's right, that the Compact for Global Migration, they believe is destroying Canada in the way it's being interpreted by the Canadian government, by Trudeau and these leftists.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think, of all the action you talked about, WHO, all of it, we did not extract ourselves from the Compact on Global Migration.
Did we, or did I miss that one?
unidentified
That's the number one thing that Donald Trump needs to do immediately.
I don't know if he has done it or not, but they need to get out of the global compact on migration because this basically abilitates the people to enter into whatever non-port of entry, into whatever port of entry into the United States of America.
The global compact of migration has been just a complete disaster, not only in Europe, but also Barack Obama brought it to the West.
And you can actually see the collateral damage that it has caused not only in Central America, South America, into the United States of America.
It needs to get out of it immediately.
This will ability and, you know, habilitate the United States government to take over and have power over these NGOs that they're basically now they are going to start doing all these class action lawsuits because of these international humanitarian rights.
So you need to get out of the global compact of migration, tell the United Nations you're not in power of the United States voters.
The OIMs and the UNHCRs to tell them we're not going to give you funds anymore.
And you're not you don't have the authority of the United States voters.
Thank you.
steve bannon
One thing that President Trump took of your action items, Oscar, that you've told us for years, the CPB1 app, tell us what's the impact been in Mexico.
This shut off immediately upon President Trump taking the oath of office yesterday.
What was the impact?
unidentified
Steve, we broke the story around 12 o'clock at the Eastern time.
Donald Trump was sworn in around 9 o'clock West Coast time.
I'm located in the West Coast time at 9.01, Steve.
The application was shut down.
You had three time frames of people that they were going to go in under the CBP1 app.
One of them was at 8 o'clock in the morning.
They went in and they took a long time for them to process.
And at 12 o'clock, they were processed out.
They were not eligible to go in.
And then there were other appointments at 12 o'clock and then at 6 o'clock.
And you can actually see behind me, Steve, these people are not eligible anymore to enter.
Under the CBP1 app, there was around 250 to 300 individuals, which they were waiting here.
And on their mobile phones, they started receiving this email from the CBP1 app.
Basically, the application was shut down, that they were not eligible to process any type of documentation.
Also, this CBP-1 app also was applicable all the way to the side of the border in Tapachula, Chiapas, where we have documented massive caravans.
All of the people on the caravan, they just noticed that they had this application, and it said the CBP-1 has been shut down.
It has been canceled.
steve bannon
So, Oscar, you've gone from Darien Gap all the way up.
You've caught the beast.
You've then gone at the northern border.
You've gone up and down from Brownsville all the way to all the camps, all the way to Tijuana.
Give us your assessment.
What is the feel right now of what's happening?
They've closed the, I guess, El Paso and some of the other crossings.
They've shut the app down.
What's the sense with all your contacts, relationships?
You've been hunted by the cartels down there.
What's the sense that the people realize this is definitive, that President Trump has sent the military to the border and all this nonsense about the invasion of the United States is over?
unidentified
Now they're realizing, Steve, that the migrants are actually understanding that this is a harsh, you know, for them it is a harsh reality.
For the United States of America, they had it.
You know, enough is enough.
And now they're understanding that this is a reality.
The CBP-1, you know, it's ending.
They're sending a National Guard to secure the borders.
And one thing that I wanted to add, Steve, yesterday, the Director of Attention of Migrants came out from this particular port of entry and gave out a statement saying that more than one million applications of CBP-1s, they are in the North borders that connect to the United States of America.
And after that, he has said, all of this, it is Biden's fault.
Just hours after he gave that statement, he was fired, Steve.
He was removed, and he was removed from his position of being the director of attention of migrants.
This is the aggressiveness that the leftist government in Mexico, they know who was at fault, and they know who needs to be held accountable for this disaster of this CBP-1 and this disaster that is continuous over here in Mexico, Steve.
steve bannon
Oscar, tremendous reporting.
You put yourself in harm's way.
There's going so much more to report.
Social media, where do people go to get our own Oscar Blue Ramirez, sir?
unidentified
Thank you.
Like always, it's an honor, sir.
Oscar Blue Ramirez, an ex, sir.
And, you know, in Real America's voice news, you can find me, sir.
Thank you so much for the invitation.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Be safe.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
steve bannon
What, for four years, five years?
Those guys put themselves in harm's way.
First guys to go to the Darien Gap.
Unbelievable.
It's paid off big time.
Just incredible.
Ben Berquam is still down.
I'm not going to go to him yet.
We're going to go to him in a second.
Ben's still down there.
Blockbuster news from the presser.
Remember, President Trump, he comes into the Roosevelt room.
room, he's announcing a $500 billion infrastructure deal on AI, and I realize a lot of us are quite concerned about guys like SoftBank stroking checks because with checks come influence and power, and we're still to be determined whether we think this foreign capital is good.
However, the point, and I think the point President Trump's trying to make is that people around the world want to come because they understand the United States is getting turned That's the big message.
They want to be part of this.
They want to invest in this.
They want to back this.
Now, it's up to us to make the decision, do you want additional foreign capital?
Are these projects great or not great?
Hey, that's all a process.
It's called capitalism, right?
We'll work through it.
President Trump today, though, a couple of blockbusters on trade and tariff.
Blockbuster on the H-1B visas.
Talked about, he batted back all these issues about J6. Remember J6. And Julie Kelly, her reporting over the last four years on J6 has been extraordinary.
Tonight, the political prisoners hopefully will all be out.
They're obviously trying to slow walk it.
We're going to get all over these pardons by Trump.
I mean, pardons by Biden, particularly for Milley.
Our strongest recommendation is General Milley should be called to active duty tonight, and tomorrow they should impanel under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, a military tribunal, to pursue charges of treason against General Milley, as we've talked about for over, I don't know, four years, what he did with the Chinese Communist Party, the PLA, in September, in October, in November.
Of 2020?
President Trump signed an executive order instituting the death penalty for any treason.
People found guilty of treason inside the United States government.
I think he's playing hardball now.
Just unbelievable.
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Back to the Wyrm in a moment.
unidentified
Okay.
Welcome back, Wyrm.
steve bannon
We had a big, impromptu press conference by the President of the United States in the Roosevelt Room.
President Trump dropping one bomb after the other.
You saw the press trying to gang-tackle him on J6. Prisoners still coming out of the gulag tonight, and we'll copy more of that and probably get to Ben Burkwam tomorrow.
Big news for this audience.
President Trump announced, guess what, he's stopping in Carolina on the way out, as we have strongly recommended.
The folks in Appalachia deserve to actually have their concerns about no FEMA money.
They're sitting down there in six-degree weather.
It's intense.
They've been there for months and months and months.
This is political persecution by the Biden regime.
Absolutely.
And President Trump, I think he's going to turn California red.
I believe there should be an investigation immediately on Newsome and these guys for criminal negligence.
Mayor Bass, Newsome, the whole lot of them.
People have had their lives, and it's never coming back.
If you know those neighborhoods of Pacific Palisades, these beautiful little villages, look, it's all filled with progressives, but they're American citizens, right?
They're our brothers and sisters.
But it's devastating.
Palisades is never coming back to what it was, ever.
And certainly not with the people there.
They'll scatter to the winds because it's going to take decades to get that mess sorted out.
President Trump's going to go to L.A. Dropping bombs, 25% tariff on China.
Boy, you think they're choking in Beijing right now?
I don't think that fixed the business model.
I'd like to know that he had a great conversation with she the other day.
Oh, by the way, 25% terrorists across the board.
25% terrorists in Mexico across the board.
I think Mexico better get the message.
Maybe you start taking care of the cartels yourself.
Maybe you should define them as a terrorist organization.
Just saying.
And, of course, talked about H-1Bs, President Trump.
You know, the conversation, I hear both arguments that we need good people.
I got it.
We got good people here.
President Trump, his actions speak louder than his words.
President Trump, executive order, make it much more difficult to effectuate the H-1B visas to back up the American worker.
Let's go to Mike Lindell.
Talk about workers, Minnesota.
Are they still trying to put you out of business?
You got another audit today, Lindell?
I need a flannel.
We don't sleep on stinking satin sheets in the war room.
It's flannel sheets.
Sheets for working people.
You got sheets for me.
You got pillows for me.
You got crosses for me.
Before that radical attorney general in Minnesota put you out of business for setting up a Christian charity that takes people off of drugs like it did you, you know, embracing God, change your life, change you from a degenerate gambler, degenerate gambler and drug addict.
That picture you look bad and now you're a man of Christ, you're a man of God.
Is the attorney general trying to put you out of business, sir?
mike lindell
Absolutely is.
In fact, I'm still in D.C. I'm going to be heading back to Minnesota and to finish this with him.
It's disgusting, Steve.
But I do want to say, spending the last three or four days here in D.C., the number one request for our products was the MyCross.
I talked to a lot of people from the War Room Posse.
So that's what we're doing with the MyCrosses, everybody.
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And you guys, if you go to the website there, you're gonna see the crosses right there.
A lot of you asked for my book.
My book's here, but then we got all the 2025 towels that came in.
You guys brought that up too when I talked to you.
I have the towels.
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That's a War Room exclusive.
And then we have our clearance event we're having.
And we have our mega sale.
Not to be confused with mega, but mega sale.
So all of this here is the War Room mega sale that we're putting on.
For this weekend and for this whole week.
And promo code WARROOM, you guys.
And Steve, I want to say too, everyone was asking me about what I did all this weekend.
You guys can check that out at any of the social media platforms.
I posted it on every one of them.
Or you can go to LyndellTV.com and check it out there.
steve bannon
Hang on.
unidentified
Hold it.
steve bannon
Time out.
Did you get any of the balls?
That's just a question.
That's a yes or no.
Did you get any of the balls?
mike lindell
Liberty Ball, yes.
steve bannon
I don't know.
I guess it's good.
I heard it was a three-hour wait.
mike lindell
Oh, it was.
unidentified
You went to a ball.
steve bannon
You were in a tuxedo?
mike lindell
I was in a tuxedo.
I probably took 7,000 pictures outside in the cold, Steve.
I kept everybody entertained.
steve bannon
Now, her is bad.
mike lindell
Right, right.
steve bannon
Her is bad.
Keep warm with Mike Lindell.
Mike Lindell, we love you, brother.
We'll have you on the morning show.
We met you on the morning show today.
We're so jammed with prisoners coming out.
President Trump had just got too jammed.
So, appreciate you.
And we'll see you tomorrow morning.
mike lindell
Alright, thanks, guys.
Promocore War Room.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Get the cross, you get the flannel sheets, the pillows, all of it.
And Ben Burke, I'm not being there anymore.
Okay, Ben.
And by the way, tomorrow...
I'm going to talk to Ben.
He's going to be doing double duty.
He'll be down at the Gulag with the prisoners.
But we're also going to try to get the North Carolina folks from Appalachia on to make sure that they understand.
I know they understand now, but that President Trump is heading their way.
This is going to be on Friday.
So we'll have wall-to-wall coverage on Friday.
President Trump's historic trip to the ravaged parts of Appalachia in North Carolina.
And then out to Los Angeles to Palisades.
It'll be a historic trip.
President Trump, his first trip is to have the back of the American people.
Honored now to have an honored guest.
Normally when we have guests on the politics side from the United Kingdom, we have Nigel Farage and the folks at Reform.
But Nigel introduced me.
There was a party.
We were one of the co-hosts the other night for Nigel in honor of Nigel and the reform movement here in Washington, D.C., the top of the Hay Adams Hotel.
He introduced me to Lord Glassman, who's been kind of a hero of mine and an author.
You're actually not UKIP.
In fact, you're not a Tory.
We're pretty honored to have First Socialist, First Labor.
You're the author of Blue Labor, but you also are very close to one of my heroes.
Michael Lynn, the hell to pay.
Michael Lynn's a great guy.
You might have to stay a little close to that microphone.
Here's a question.
Tell us what...
Why is Nigel Farage at Reform?
And he tells me, he says, Bannon, the one guy you've got to meet in the United Kingdom is Lord Glassman, a Jewish socialist, right?
So he says he's the working man's best friend.
Walk me through.
Why is that?
unidentified
Well, you know, you have inheritance in life.
I was born a Jew.
I'll always be a Jew.
I support Tottenham Hotspur, and I was born into a Labour family.
So I'm not a liberal.
That's the important thing.
I don't renounce my inheritance.
And Labour is a magnificent thing, Steve.
If you look at the Labour movement, the Christian movement for the working man, called itself Labour.
Elevated the condition of the working class in savage conditions, enclosures, forced industrialization, paupers' graves, the labour movement, and an alliance between the Catholic Church and the non-conformists they built.
The burial societies, the cooperative burial societies.
steve bannon
What were the cooperative burial societies?
Tell people what that was.
unidentified
It used to be the case that in industrialized, when England was industrializing Britain as a whole, actually working people were just thrown into a pit when they died.
They had a pauper's grave, it was called.
They were just thrown into a pit.
And what they did was they built an organization, a dues-paying organization called the Burial Society.
And it meant they had the honour of a Christian burial.
It was the first time in British history that Catholics, non-conformists could be buried in the same plot, you know, so it brought class solidarity.
But the point is the dignity and death was so fundamental to them.
steve bannon
Talk about also, because a lot of folks here don't understand, Winston Churchill in May of 1940. Yeah.
Right?
After France fell.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
And it looked like the whole project was going to collapse.
Yeah.
People wanted Lord...
The Tories wanted Lord Halifax.
unidentified
They wanted Halifax.
steve bannon
And the royal family wanted Lord Halifax.
unidentified
Get into it.
steve bannon
Whether he was going to cut a deal with the Nazis and save the empire, but Churchill became the leader because it was working class people in labor.
unidentified
It was labor.
steve bannon
The same people that backed Nigel Farage on Brexit.
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve bannon
Walk through that connection.
unidentified
Well, you've got it.
There was a big appeasement movement in the Conservative Party.
Their peace, peace, peace.
steve bannon
Peace at any price.
unidentified
Yeah.
And, well, they, you know, I think...
steve bannon
Neville Chamberlain, peace in our time.
unidentified
Exactly.
steve bannon
He was the leader.
And there's arguments about they needed time to rearm, and they knew they made mistakes, but they didn't want to fight.
unidentified
They weren't rearming, and they weren't building up our armed forces.
It was Labour that chose Churchill.
Labour said it was him.
It was then the leader in 1945, Clement Attlee, became essentially the deputy prime minister.
Very important person was Ernest Bevin.
Ernest Bevin was the leader of the largest free and democratic trade union in the world, was then the transport general workers, and directly in partnership with the Teamsters here.
By the way, that was the origin of that.
steve bannon
Is this because to back...
Was this because of infiltration into the Labour movement by Marxists or neo-Marxists and the support of the Soviet Union at the time?
Why did Labour back Churchill?
unidentified
Steve, the Soviet Union had just done the pact with Hitler.
They had the Ribbon Trop Molotov Pact.
No, Bevin was a ferocious anti-communist.
The British working class knew they had to fight the Nazis.
Labour stayed straight with them.
And there was no deviation.
They went into the war cabinet, as I say, and Bevin became the Minister of Energy, then the Foreign Minister after the war.
steve bannon
Tell me about Halifax, the Tories, and particularly Halifax, the royal family, they were open to a potential deal with...
unidentified
Well, there was a split.
I mean, Edward VII was open to it, but George V was certainly not.
steve bannon
And Edward, that's one of the reasons he had to go.
unidentified
He had to go.
And Churchill got him out.
steve bannon
Got him out, right.
Because they realized he was too close to the Nazis.
unidentified
Oh, he was flirting with them all the time, going to the embassy, having dinner.
steve bannon
Unity Mitford's diary, in fact, has just come out.
It's a shockwaves.
If you haven't had a chance to read the Daily Mail about that exclusive...
unidentified
The important part of that story is that Labour was...
Solid for the working class and solid for the nation.
steve bannon
Now, that came all the way through to Brexit.
And the same thing I told Niger at the time.
He was getting a little soft on me.
Hey, just wait till the vote comes in.
Wait till the vote comes in.
Remember, Niger had a beer or two and a ale or two and was already conceding.
I said, don't concede, man.
We got this.
unidentified
It was a minority sport.
My party, you know, the joke I always make is it's the last thing you want to hear when you go to the doctor.
It's progressive.
It's an illness.
It just saps your intelligence.
steve bannon
Why is that?
You're in the House of Lords.
You would think you'd be the most progressive guy in the world.
Why are you not?
Why are you against the progressives?
unidentified
Oh, because progressivism is a sickness to me.
It's a palsy.
So what I said earlier, I'm a socialist.
I believe, along with Catholic social thought, that we're social beings.
I think they're one of the great threats to our humanity.
It's capitalism, the commodification of the sacred, you know, of human beings and of nature, and merciless verum devorum, and the best laborum ex chens.
These are the foundational things.
Centesimus annus as well.
steve bannon
When you say socialism, hasn't history proven that socialism and that communism has done more damage to working class people and killed more working class people and brutalized?
unidentified
Let's say communism is a disgusting abomination.
I'm just talking about remembering that we're social beings.
steve bannon
Okay.
unidentified
Okay, that we are formed by love and relationships and institutions.
You can't do it all on your own.
I don't go for the individual picket.
You've got to have love.
You've got to have support.
You've got to have family.
So in that sense, social as in socialism.
But I also think that it's absolutely vital, you know, that there's a state that can protect the workers.
You know, from that exploitation, that's the whole meaning of democratic.
We've just seen it with MAGA. What you've done is that the state was completely subordinate to progressive capital.
steve bannon
Progressive capital?
unidentified
Yeah, the whole alliance, woke capitalism.
This is what we've been living through for the last 10, 15 years.
steve bannon
Tell me about it.
What is woke capitalism?
Why does it damage the working class and middle class?
unidentified
Because first of all, it stresses division all the time.
Divisions along race, divisions along age, it undermines covenantal solidarity, care for the old, all of those things.
And secondly, it markets in that way.
So what you had, what we have had, and it's certainly the last four or five years, yesterday was an incredibly important day.
steve bannon
People should understand, you were invited by the Trump inaugural committee.
committee.
You were the one member of the government in England that was actually invited here.
unidentified
I'm not in the government.
It's got to be said.
I'm in the Labour Party.
I'm what's called a backbencher.
steve bannon
But you were invited here for this event.
unidentified
Absolutely.
And to me, it's...
steve bannon
Do we know why Why did President Trump, of all the people, because it was such a tight ticket as we say, why did he select you?
unidentified
I think because of the consistent holding of position.
I've always been extremely interested in MAGA, both as a political theory and also as a strategy of coalition building in which workers can again have a voice, have a say.
The humiliation and degradation of the working class under the rule of the progressives makes me furious.
I mean, that's the energy that I get.
steve bannon
Here in the United States, it's hard to understand.
Someone on the left that says he's a working class based socialist, right?
It looks at the progressives as an enemy.
unidentified
They're the enemy.
steve bannon
They're the enemy.
Why is that again?
Because people's heads are blowing up right now, I can tell.
unidentified
No, but they are the enemy because they actually despise faith.
They despise family.
They despise love.
They don't even want you to enjoy sexual intercourse with your wife.
They despise love, joy, truth and beauty.
And they do all the time to undermine solidarity between the races in order to build...
Proper working-class solidarity that could confront corporate capital.
steve bannon
So you're saying that they actually sow disunion between the racists?
unidentified
All the time.
steve bannon
Progressives would say they're trying to bring people together, that diversity is our strength.
Diversity is our strength.
You don't buy that?
unidentified
Oh, you know, they should just call the places that they work in diversities rather than universities.
You know, it's a relentless separation of people, victim status, microaggressions.
Power relationships.
They're single-handedly destroying the labor movement.
steve bannon
And so what is labor doing?
Labor's in government now, but the approval, having had this massive sweep, given the debacle of the Tories, right?
They're in kind of collapse now because of not getting their hands around economic policy.
Are they just another version of the neoliberal?
Neoconservative movement that's taken over the City of London?
unidentified
Well, the City of London is a whole other story.
I mean, that's also a wounded beast.
Well, the Conservatives won in 2019 on the basis of take back control of getting Brexit done, of a new economic model, of levelling up.
And they did, as they say in Italian, nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
They just caved to...
The capitalist corporate class, they said that they would control immigration.
I mean, it's our story too, Steve.
One million migrants a year.
One million?
One million a year under Boris Johnson, under Liz Truss.
steve bannon
You're saying the Tories brought in one million a year.
unidentified
And that's just the legal ones, okay?
I mean, this is a demographic transformation of my nation.
And every time they started to tentatively say anything...
steve bannon
Does that make you a racist?
Does it make you a nativist?
unidentified
How can that possibly be?
I mean, this is the crucial thing.
The first principle of democracy is that you stand up for the people of your country.
And borders, without borders, without sovereignty above all, Steve, you can't control capital.
That's the whole socialist thing.
You need to have sovereignty over your borders.
And this whole fantasy world that they've lived in, progressives live in, and it's also, the right has been middled with progressivism, talking about the conservatives, talking about Bush Republic.
These people, if you bring in cheap labour, you have compliant serfs, just as you said earlier.
And that's the whole model they've got.
And then what they don't comprehend is the...
A political state is not a contractual state, it's a covenantal state.
steve bannon
What do you mean by that, covenantal versus contractual?
unidentified
Okay, contractual is just an exchange for mutual benefit between hands.
Covenantal is an intergenerational binding of mutual responsibility one to the other.
So we have covenantal elements in our state.
We've got the monarchy is a covenantal institution.
The army is a covenantal institution.
We used to have universities that had their own self-government.
So covenant is the only real way within sovereignty that I think that you can bind the incredible desire of...
Capital to just get the quickest returns at the maximum possible speed, the highest returns.
steve bannon
We've got a bolt because we took President Trump's conference.
What's your social media?
Where do people go and find out more about you?
You've got the book out.
unidentified
Okay, so because I'm a very old-fashioned person...
steve bannon
You know social media?
unidentified
Yeah, we've got a Blue Labour account.
There's a Blue Labour Twitter account.
There's a Blue Labour...
steve bannon
There's our website?
unidentified
Website, yeah.
steve bannon
Under the book Blue Labour.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
You are old school.
unidentified
Really old school.
steve bannon
Amazing.
We're going to have a lot more of you.
You're going to go back to England and take it in the next couple of days?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm going to New York, where, by the way, Steve, people's heads are turning.
I mean, I'm going to have two meals with academics who, let's say, two months ago wouldn't have been seen dead.
steve bannon
We'll talk about this.
We may be spending some time in New York in the not-too-distant future.
unidentified
I would love to.
And I just want to show respect to you, Steve, really, publicly.
It's important that I do that.
steve bannon
No, no, no, no.
When Nigel Farage...
Who very rarely tells me, I've got to meet somebody and spend time with him.
Nigel Farage is top.
But he is, what we call Nigel, a saloon.
unidentified
A saloon bar that's right.
He still doesn't get it with capital.
steve bannon
Saloon bar that's right.
The best description of Nigel I've ever heard.
unidentified
But he is really, you can see him, smoking away in the pub and just going, no, no, Singapore's really good.
steve bannon
We're going to be back tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
Ben Burkwam, we're talking about North Carolina.
Maybe go there to visit the folks, also the gulags.
A lot going on overnight.
I'll be up on social media.
Big news, I think, on H-1Bs and also tariffs and trade.
See you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
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