Jan. 21, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Wednesday, 21 January, year of order, 2024. Besides the media coming after him, there are multiple lawsuits. | ||
| Multiple lawsuits in every federal court in the country on multiple things, on doge, on deportation, on virtually every executive order, and what's not been filed now will be filed by 5 o'clock today. | ||
| Are you feeling unity? | ||
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Do you think they're going to unite? | |
| This is going to be a political, I use this metaphor, it's going to be a political gunfight. | ||
| It just is. | ||
| They're not going to sit there. | ||
| You've had multiple, the resistance, and the resistance is both internal of President Trump and what he's trying to accomplish, and it's also external. | ||
| Now he's firing thousands of people, dismissing thousands of people. | ||
| But let me go back. | ||
| There's 2.5 million, I'm giving you round numbers, 2.5 million civilian employees, 2.5 million military, 5 million contractors roughly at the executive level. | ||
| That's 10 million. | ||
| They get access to information. | ||
| What kind of information? | ||
| Well, are we going to be this afternoon in Chicago doing a raid? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Ben Burkhan might know that. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But it was leaked to the Washington Post on Saturday. | ||
| Details of the 200 ICE officers that Tom Holman had been working on. | ||
| And then later, Holman came out, and I think the Washington Post the next day, that would be Sunday, and said, you know, this thing may be on hold. | ||
| Why? | ||
| This is how they got us in the first administration. | ||
| President Trump, you have to understand, President Trump is equivalent of being the army command in Saigon in 1966. You don't know who your friends are and who your enemies are. | ||
| You just don't. | ||
| And they're coming at you from every different direction. | ||
| And this is where you have to power through. | ||
| President Trump then again today said there's going to be a massive... | ||
| What he has done across the board from getting out of the climate change to getting out of the WHO, going to be lawsuits about all this. | ||
| The Ministry of State is also going to try to chop block him in all of it. | ||
| It has to be powered through. | ||
| You know, gosh, you might say, wow, you know, I think I remember, you know, pulling out of the WHO and pulling out of the climate accord. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We pulled out in March or February and started the process. | ||
| But what they do is they put so many regulations and rules around it, they just can't do an edict. | ||
| Boom, we're out, we're out. | ||
| No, it's got reviews and all this. | ||
| President Trump, we signed it, I think, in February, March or April of 2017. One of the first things we did was pull out of Paris because it was ridiculous. | ||
| We're underwriting the Chinese, basically, economy because they had no caps whatsoever. | ||
| Remember the, what was it, the Gillet-Jean? | ||
| Remember the Yellow Vest? | ||
| Remember the Yellow Vest protest? | ||
| I think it was in 19, 18, maybe 18 in Paris, in the hinterlands of France. | ||
| What was that about? | ||
| That was about the working class. | ||
| That was the MAGA of France putting more, I guess, taxes on, costing diesel fuel more, and they all run on diesel. | ||
| A lot of them run on diesel. | ||
| They were having to pay. | ||
| For Macron and the elite's involvement in the Paris Climate Accords. | ||
| They put it on the working class and they revolted. | ||
| Remember, they went to Paris and burned down a big part of it. | ||
| And the Champs-Élysées, remember that? | ||
| All the way to the Arc de Triomphe, that right there, they were burning the restaurants and having a riot up and down the street. | ||
| They got a little out of control. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Maybe it's kind of like J6. Oops. | ||
| Did I say that? | ||
| President Trump, and if he wasn't committed the night before to do this, he was certainly, I think, committed and saw the logic of it, the internal logic of it, by, before he walked in the stage, before he walked in yesterday at 11.30, because at 10 o'clock, they pardoned all the J6 committee and the staff and anybody associated with it. | ||
| And Shifty Shift, Shifty Shift's up there last night. | ||
| He didn't want to pardon how bad it is. | ||
| Then don't take it. | ||
| Shift, don't take it. | ||
| Don't take it. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| Tom Fenton's out. | ||
| And look, when I have any questions in this regard, Fenton's not a lawyer. | ||
| It's like Julie Kelly's not a lawyer. | ||
| Grassley's not a lawyer. | ||
| There's a pattern there, right? | ||
| They can't give you legal advice, but they can break things down because they're not lawyers. | ||
| They don't come in from a lawyer's mentality. | ||
| Tom Fitton, and Tom Fitton's got great lawyers on staff. | ||
| Tom Fitton's telling us that these pardons don't mean much. | ||
| They won't stand up. | ||
| He wants to go hard. | ||
| I 100% agree with him. | ||
| The J6 committee has got to be made an example. | ||
| We can never allow that to happen again. | ||
| President Trump wrote an executive order about weaponization, but right there we got an example. | ||
| We can never allow this to be happening again, that a congressional committee can be formed and that the... | ||
| Party in charge can deem that the minority party can't have representation, the representation they want, and they can't have a ranking member, and you can't have minority counsel. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| It means you get the evidence, and you get to cross-examine witnesses. | ||
| And therefore, that is the adversarial process we have in our court system. | ||
| The advocacy, you have an advocate for your side, you have an advocate for another, and you fight it out with evidence, with facts, in front of people, only the facts that are presented. | ||
| This is why the system goes forward. | ||
| This and executive privilege is why I said, no, this is not right, and I'm not going to kowtow to that. | ||
| I went to federal prison about it. | ||
| Big deal. | ||
| I didn't whine about that. | ||
| That just was part of the process. | ||
| But these folks have to be held accountable. | ||
| Yesterday was Liberation Day, and part of liberation is accountability. | ||
| It has to be held accountable. | ||
| Do we still have Ben Burquam? | ||
| Is he down at the prison? | ||
| Let me know when Ben's up. | ||
| I got Ben. | ||
| Do I have Julie Kelly? | ||
| Let me see if I can get Julie Kelly. | ||
| I'm trying to get Fenton. | ||
| John Solomon's going to join us. | ||
| John Solomon's got a great piece up about this. | ||
| I don't want to spend too much time on J60. Oh, the great Tom Fenton. | ||
| So Tom Fenton, I tell people I always defer to your judgment on topics like this. | ||
| Because you have been the People's Justice Department, I don't know, for 10 or 12 years. | ||
| You put up something last night, and you've got to walk me through this because it's very important for our audience. | ||
| You said, hey, these pardons are irrelevant, illegal, they can't go, and we've got to go and press forward on the J6 committee. | ||
| What do you mean, sir? | ||
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Well, you know, to the degree the pardons are not specific, to the degree they frankly haven't been delivered, And to the degree they require President Trump to affect them, they should be considered nullity. | |
| Nullity is under the Constitution. | ||
| And, you know, I was trying to think through how the challenge could proceed. | ||
| And the challenge would be the Justice Department or other law enforcement agencies, such as the Defense Department in the case of Milley, just proceed. | ||
| And Milley can highlight the pardon as a defense. | ||
| Others can highlight, Fauci can highlight the pardon as a defense. | ||
| But the idea that there are blanket pardons is constitutionally unprecedented, to be fair, other than Nixon. | ||
| But Nixon's was never challenged in that regard. | ||
| And so all these Twitter reply guys, as I'm calling them, and legal Twitter, you know, we've been around the block on this issue many times. | ||
| We looked into this issue when, you may recall, when Clinton on his way out the door issued all sorts of pardons. | ||
| We tried to convince the Bush administration, you can shut it down by not delivering them. | ||
| You know, you can't be hijacked by Bill Clinton with last-minute pardons to figure out. | ||
| Tom, hang on. | ||
| Tom, slow down. | ||
| Explain to our people what that process is. | ||
| If they had issued a pardon a year ago, or for J6, six months ago, their Justice Department under Merrick Garland would have done all the paperwork and would have done the process. | ||
| Your point is when they wait to the last second and try to be cute about things. | ||
| The next administration – and you were on the top of this about the pardons early on for Clinton, the Clinton pardons, that you wanted Bush and those guys to take them. | ||
| They wouldn't take up. | ||
| So walk me through – when you say just not deliver on it, do it, what are you saying for President Trump? | ||
| His Justice Department or the new Justice Department has to actually execute on these things and deliver them. | ||
| Correct, sir? | ||
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Yes, and they're going to – so the argument is going to be – Whether they've been fully executed and acted upon, and I understand it's going to be two sides of the argument, but the left wants us to believe there's never any argument here, right? | |
| And I'm saying there is. | ||
| So President Trump can direct his pardon attorney, stop any work on these pardons. | ||
| Now, specifically on the January 6th committee pardons, there, there's a list of names that aren't present, or there's a... | ||
| A group of names that aren't delineated in terms of specificity. | ||
| How is that pardon going to be implemented or delivered? | ||
| Who's on the list? | ||
| And so President Trump should decline to effect that pardon because he's being asked to effect the pardon effectively by being given, oh, you need the pardon. | ||
| You know, we're going to pardon everyone who talked to the January 6th committee, all the cops. | ||
| Well, what does that mean? | ||
| Who's the staff? | ||
| How do we figure out what staff is versus people who weren't staffed? | ||
| All sorts of legal questions. | ||
| So my point is that pardons can be revoked, and the way in this case to revoke them is to question their level of specificity. | ||
| Blanket pardons are really outside the legal norm, are constitutional norms, and the common law of England in which the pardon power arises from. | ||
| So there's all sorts of reasons. | ||
| And what is the way to test it, General Milley? | ||
| Court-martial him. | ||
| Court-martial him and let him issue that as the defense and let the courts figure it out. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| You're recommending, because you're saying Fauci, J6, and Milley, but you want to start by having what the program was to recall General Milley to active duty, I think, first, step one. | ||
| And then court-martial him in front of a UCMJ tribunal or court-martial panel and do that immediately. | ||
| And he can bring up the fact that Biden, the commander-in-chief, although we think he's illegitimate, the commander-in-chief at the time, although I would love to litigate that with you, issued him a pardon. | ||
| And that could be part of his defense, correct? | ||
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Yeah, you know, and even as you talk, it occurs to me, Steve, is a court-martial covered by this pardon? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't even know if he would be able to raise it. | ||
| I don't know if you can pardon, unless you're specific, I don't know if you can pardon under UCMJ. I'm not sure particularly for treason, which it is. | ||
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But here's what I admire. | |
| But Fenton, you're the guy. | ||
| It's the People's Justice Department. | ||
| Right? | ||
| What Tom Fenton has done over the last 10, 12, 14 years has been nothing short of, I mean, for the years in the wilderness during Obama, you were the only thing we had. | ||
| Judicial watch. | ||
| My dad used to, you know, my dad in his 90s would tell me... | ||
| That Tom Fitton, Steve, is the best guy I ever met. | ||
| My dad would hit Tom with 50 bucks every year and say, he'd get his newsletter. | ||
| Read his newsletter. | ||
| He'd read the ink off that because he was a guy that was a no BS guy and he knew you had him. | ||
| All these other EOs were already hitting us in a firestorm of lawsuits everywhere. | ||
| What other ones do you think are the most controversial? | ||
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Well, Birthright Citizenship, to me, is a brilliant EO. It addresses the issue quite directly. | |
| It recognizes that there's this issue about what a natural-born citizen is, and the president has a right to interpret the law as he sees fit under the Constitution. | ||
| As the EEO points out, the legislative language echoes the Constitution, and that doesn't resolve the issue as to whether someone who's here temporarily or illegally Their children automatically become citizens. | ||
| I don't think that was what was intended under the 14th Amendment. | ||
| I don't even think it was contemplated that this category of person would be even considered possibly to be a citizen. | ||
| So that's, to me, brilliant. | ||
| I was thinking, I'd be interested in your input on this. | ||
| To see these EOs, to me, the pardons were worth the price of admission for the second Trump term. | ||
| But you were there at the beginning of the last administration. | ||
| What a marked difference. | ||
| And it's all due to respect everyone who was coming in into that situation. | ||
| To have these videos ready like this shows such great staffing. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| I've got to hold you. | ||
| Just do a short commercial break. | ||
| Tom Fitness with us. | ||
| Judicial Watch. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Tom Fenton, we've got a lot else to talk about. | ||
| You're going to be in action today with the Trump people. | ||
| We've got to ask you, you've been at the forefront of this Michael Byrd, the murder of Ashley Babbitt. | ||
| Where do we stand on this, and what happened yesterday play into this? | ||
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Well, to me, this is part of the justice issue. | |
| We have this lawsuit against the federal government for $30 million for Aaron and Ashley's estate. | ||
| Aaron is her widower. | ||
| And so we have a hearing, for instance, scheduled at the end of the month. | ||
| I mean, if I were President Trump, respectfully, I'd shut this case down on terms favorable to her family. | ||
| Are they going to defend the shooting death of Ashley Babbitt in court? | ||
| I can't imagine they would. | ||
| And so I would elevate this to a high priority. | ||
| This woman was needlessly shot and killed by Byrd. | ||
| And the last thing I can imagine Trump wants to do is defend that in court or force us to have to fight them in court over this, even for one minute. | ||
| Hey, Tom, I need to talk to you after this show, and then I want to have you back on. | ||
| But people, I want to tell you, Tom Fenton is one of the greatest warriors in our movement. | ||
| And he's a self-effacing guy. | ||
| You never see the Judicial Watch team. | ||
| His team is magnificent. | ||
| They're never promoting. | ||
| They're the least self-promotional people I've ever met. | ||
| Just the people's justice department. | ||
| And now we've got a real justice department. | ||
| And a different justice department. | ||
| The work you guys have dovetailed. | ||
| Because I want to have you back on a go over all these. | ||
| But I want to talk to you first after the show, and we can coordinate. | ||
| But it's just magnificent what you've done. | ||
| And your thing yesterday is the type of thinking that changes the way people approach things. | ||
| It's kind of very Trumpian in that regard. | ||
| It's not just outside the box. | ||
| It's changing the entire game. | ||
| You were supported. | ||
| This Fauci... | ||
| What Tom Fenton's saying is that, hey, look, just because he tried to be cute and gave Fauci and the J6 and Millie... | ||
| These pardons on the way out, there's so many questions, and Trump's Justice Department has to execute on them. | ||
| If he had done it a year ago, then it would have been Merrick Garland, but he didn't do that. | ||
| So we have an opportunity. | ||
| What Fenton's saying is that they don't matter. | ||
| Press on and let them use it in the defense in court. | ||
| Is that basically the theory of the case for you, Tom? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And some of it may be valid. | ||
| The point is, this is the sort of thing you just can't presume. | ||
| Biden pardoned his entire family for crimes unknown since 2014, and that settles the issue. | ||
| That's really unprecedented in scope, and the unspecificity makes it unenforceable. | ||
| They can't implement it even if they wanted to. | ||
| You can't ask a court to say, oh, what crimes are at issue here? | ||
| What are we going to be litigating over? | ||
| Let's focus on what they did. | ||
| Well, in the least, and it doesn't stop criminal investigations. | ||
| In the least, it doesn't stop criminal investigations. | ||
| And they've admitted now they've got a problem. | ||
| It was a great unmasking, and Nixon's totally different. | ||
| That is a completely different thing about a sitting president. | ||
| Tom, social media and where do people go to get these great little videos you put up and your social media, and then where do they go to learn more about Judicial Watch overall? | ||
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We're on Rumble. | |
| Of course, you're banned from YouTube still, but we're on Twitter and Facebook. | ||
| Well, it's a pain in the neck because we want to post this stuff when I'm on with you on YouTube, right? | ||
| I agree. | ||
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They take it down. | |
| Because you're still banned. | ||
| You're on War Room. | ||
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Oh, that wouldn't be Google, would it? | |
| Yeah, it is Google. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We wear it as a badge of honor. | ||
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They may show up at the inauguration, but they're still abusing conservatives. | |
| Okay, so we're all over. | ||
| Facebook, Twitter, judicialwatch.org directly. | ||
| And we've got to keep on winning every day. | ||
| Every day is a battle. | ||
| Every day. | ||
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And the left is in opposition. | |
| There will always be an opposition to the truth. | ||
| So the battles never stop. | ||
| Listen to Tom Fitton. | ||
| That's a warrior's warrior right there. | ||
| And President Trump respects his judgment above all others in these areas. | ||
| And that's why this is what Tom Fitton said last night when I saw it. | ||
| I said, bang, that's what I've been looking for. | ||
| Fitton's at the tip of the spear in this thing. | ||
| And we're going to roll. | ||
| Remember where you heard it first, folks, where Tom Fitton put it up. | ||
| On the 20th in the evening, on the 21st in the morning, this is going to happen. | ||
| We're not backing off any of this. | ||
| Fauci, J6, Milley, all of it. | ||
| Tom Fitton, honored to have you on here, sir. | ||
| Talk to you after the show. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| And thank you for the good word. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| President Trump, immediately I take Fenton's thing. | ||
| Milley should be recalled to active duty today, before the close of business today. | ||
| Let's start the whole ball rolling. | ||
| Recalling to active duty, step one. | ||
| Step two, impanel a uniform code of military justice tribunal for the treason trial of General Milley, who Poitret was taken down out of the Pentagon. | ||
| yesterday because it's a disgrace to his country. | ||
| And he begged more than anybody for this pardon, so you know he knows he's up to it, to his neck in it. | ||
| Ben Burquam, you're down at the jail, or I call a prison, for inhumane treatment. | ||
| And folks, everybody associated with the torturing of these patriots is going to be held accountable. | ||
| But you're there with a very special person. | ||
| Who you got, Ben, and what's the word? | ||
| Yeah, hey Steve. | ||
| Tom just brought it up. | ||
| Ashley Babbitt's case. | ||
| I'm here with Ashley's mom, Mickey, who has been doing the vigil out here for 903 days. | ||
| This is the culmination of that. | ||
| Ashley, I mean, excuse me, Mickey, I keep calling you Ashley. | ||
| I see Ashley in you. | ||
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I'll take it. | |
| Oh, thank you. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| What is your message? | ||
| You were just hearing to Tom and listening to Tom and Steve. | ||
| What is today? | ||
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Well, today is going to be Ashley's victory. | |
| You know, Ashley's here to share it with us in spirit. | ||
| And, you know, I want to just say as far as Judicial Watch goes, we are honored to have them fighting so hard for Ashley Babbitt because they are amazing watchdogs for our government. | ||
| You know, I've seen Tom Fenton walk into a room and grown men just get a little weak in the knees because they know, they know he's going to FOIA him. | ||
| You know, that's just amazing. | ||
| The Judicial Watch people are very, very strong advocates for American rights. | ||
| And so it's an honor to have them fighting for Ashley. | ||
| You know, go ahead, I'm sorry. | ||
| Tell me on this day, tell us about Ashley and about Michael Byrd and all of it. | ||
| We want to hear it because we believe that now the criminal... | ||
| Look, Ashley Babbitt, Sergeant Babbitt, was murdered in cold blood in the Capitol that day. | ||
| And we must get accountability for that. | ||
| We must get justice for Ashley Babbitt, ma'am. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| You know, and that's part of the reason to be here is just to, you know, Ashley... | ||
| Four-time deployed United States Air Force veteran, murdered in cold blood by a crooked cop, a dirty cop, which a lot of people didn't realize until Judicial Watch pressed for that information. | ||
| And, you know, a disciplinary record that dates back to decades than any other police force would have had him removed instead of promoted and exonerated. | ||
| So, you know, we absolutely need an investigation into him. | ||
| But, of course, you know, Biden pardoned him on the way out the door, too. | ||
| So, you know, we're waiting in front of this jail because, as usual, you know, D.C. has been torturing these men and women for the whole time they've been in there and they continue to process. | ||
| These men should have been out before midnight last night. | ||
| And yet these jackboot thuggery people behind us. | ||
| Just continue to prolong the process. | ||
| We were out here until 1 o'clock in the morning last night. | ||
| It was freezing, but we were doing it with great glee, expecting to see our people come out. | ||
| We do have a house here in D.C. that we call the Eagle's Nest, which is very much not an ode to Hitler. | ||
| We won that war, so we took the name back. | ||
| We were lucky enough to receive Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| The Lego man. | ||
| And, you know, we have been housing some Jan 6 political prisoners as they get out. | ||
| And we have been able to, you know, welcome them back to the community. | ||
| But the guys behind us still waiting and still waiting and still waiting because that's how D.C. does things. | ||
| Because they're used to doing whatever they want to do. | ||
| And now that Trump's back in power, they're going to have to dance to a new tune to, you know, to answer to some regulations and some, you know, a new sheriff in town. | ||
| Explain to me for a moment, when you say jackbooted thuggery, these men have been, many of them have been like four years in this process. | ||
| Walk me through when you say jackbooted thuggery. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
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Well, just the whole judicial process, you know, the things that President Trump went through, the things that you went through too, Mr. Bannon. | |
| You know, just the way that when you go into a D.C. courtroom, everybody in this city considers themselves a victim of January 6th. | ||
| So to have the people that consider themselves victims sit in judgment of you is really not a very fair way to do things. | ||
| And, you know, it really becomes what... | ||
| Is collusion between the FBI, the prosecutors, and yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say the judges. | ||
| The judges that come in here with a preconceived notion and tell you that you are not a patriot if you came to protest a stolen election, and the only patriots there that day were Capitol Police officers. | ||
| When we have seen Capitol Police officers act in arrestable ways, and, you know, if we're going to hold American citizens so accountable. | ||
| Enrique Terrio was released today, last night, and he was doing a 22-year sentence in jail, but he wasn't in the city when it happened. | ||
| So, you know, it was very much a political persecution of our people, and it's not going to stand anymore. | ||
| It's not going to stand, but, like, in true fashion, D.C. continues to drag their feet. | ||
| We have major media people out here waiting with us along, you know, the same way, but they continue to hold on to that. | ||
| We can do what we want to do. | ||
| do. | ||
| We can treat these people however we want to treat them. | ||
| And even though President Trump said they should be free men at 12 o'clock last night, they still remain behind bars. | ||
| They let them go out for rec and get all sweaty, all sweaty. | ||
| Will not let them shower this morning or use the restroom and have taken the shower curtains, just any little pissy thing they can do to make these men feel less than human. | ||
| They do. | ||
| And so that needs to come to an end, probably, I hope in about 10 minutes. | ||
| I will tell you the inhuman nature of what they can make prison is pretty powerful. | ||
| Uh, Mickey, you're a... | ||
| There's a lot of Ashley in you, and she speaks to you. | ||
| Where do people go on social media? | ||
| Where do they go to the site? | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Ma'am. | ||
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We have a website called ForAshley.com, and I would say that in the past, it would lead you to be able to write the guys in prison letters and support them on their commissary. | |
| But, you know, they're going to be out, and they're going to be free men soon, but you can find information out about them. | ||
| them. | ||
| There are still, you know, a Patriot, uh, male project. | ||
| There's a link on our site that you can go and you can learn a lot about these men and maybe learn how to help them, uh, get started back in life. | ||
| And there's a J six road home project through a Jenny Cudd out of Texas. | ||
| So, you know, you can support those people in so many ways. | ||
| So God bless you for asking. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Ben, you hang right there. | ||
| We're gonna take a short commercial break. | ||
| Birchgold.com slash Ben at the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Modern monetary theory. | ||
| The idea that broke the world. | ||
| Get up to speed on it. | ||
| We need you at the ramparts on all things financial. | ||
| We need to understand this. | ||
| We got Ben Berquam down at the jail. | ||
| We got John Solomon in the studio. | ||
| Julie Kelly's with us. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Okay, I've got murders. | ||
| Look, we've got so much more to do. | ||
| We've got national security. | ||
| We have debt. | ||
| We have the border. | ||
| We have the Army called out. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| We're going to get to that in the five to seven hour tonight. | ||
| It'll be lit. | ||
| That, I guarantee you. | ||
| We've got to deal with this, though, this action before us, because I can tell you this is the forefront of President Trump's mind. | ||
| Ben Burquam, put us in the room. | ||
| Are the prisoners, they should have been released last night, or had they been released, or are we going to get them in the next couple of minutes? | ||
| Yeah, most of them, Steve, should have been released four years ago. | ||
| But what we're anticipating, I'm going to step out of the shot here real quick and just show you what's going on here. | ||
| They put up some caution tape when I arrived here just a few minutes ago. | ||
| And then they moved these vans into place. | ||
| There's three of these vans, transport vans. | ||
| You can't see all of them. | ||
| There's a second one there and then a third one behind it. | ||
| And what it looks like they're doing is setting it up to... | ||
| Move these guys out of the way quickly. | ||
| Usually what happens is they'll bring them, release them out those doors behind me. | ||
| They'll be able to walk over here and everyone's waiting to talk to them. | ||
| My guess is they're actually trying to get them in these vans and move them out. | ||
| They've blocked off some of the streets down here. | ||
| So something's about to happen. | ||
| We're anticipating, like you said, they should have been released last night. | ||
| And by the way, the argument, the justification they said for not releasing them was they didn't have the guy that was supposed to be here to sign the paperwork. | ||
| I mean, just absolute filth. | ||
| They did that to me. | ||
| Hey, they did that to me, too. | ||
| That's an old trick, right? | ||
| It's an old trick. | ||
| Hang on, Burquam. | ||
| John Solomon, your piece this morning, put this in perspective. | ||
| Where are we on all of this? | ||
| And I want also your comments and opinions and observations on what Tom Fitton's saying about screw them. | ||
| Press on with Trump's Justice Department. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Well, listen, there are legitimate questions that still need to be criminally investigated, regardless of whether the pardons turn out to be legal or not. | ||
| Most of the legal experts I talked to today on both sides, liberals and conservatives, said it's a plenary power that has a lot of latitude. | ||
| That said, it doesn't prevent someone from being forced to go before a grand jury and describe the behavior they have. | ||
| There's a back door that Biden's pardons left open, wide open, which is Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has been challenged factually. | ||
| Barry Laudermilk has provided evidence that suggests that her testimony is not accurate. | ||
| There's a very strong possibility justice will start a criminal investigation into that, bring all these other players into it. | ||
| Liz Cheney, Benny Thompson, what did you know? | ||
| They made a decision. | ||
| Hang on one second, John, because your article, if we can push this out, Grayson, everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I want to go back to your article. | ||
| Trump delivered his J6 pardons. | ||
| Now, Congress must decide the fate of panel that required the clemency. | ||
| This gets to the key point. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's the railhead. | ||
| And by the way, it took down McCarthy. | ||
| This is a festering sore. | ||
| I have no interest. | ||
| And President Trump doesn't have any interest. | ||
| Peter Navarro and Tom Barrack. | ||
| We have no interest at all in doing this. | ||
| We're fighting for our country. | ||
| But we've got to get to the bottom of the structure of how this happened. | ||
| Walk me through. | ||
| This committee, and why was it never shut down by the Republicans, and what does John Solomon in his reporting say must be done today? | ||
| Well, listen, everybody I've talked to in the last few days, particularly after Biden's party felt more emboldened that the right thing Congress should do is to take a vote in the next few days and repudiate the findings for history and for the contemporary moment that we're in. | ||
| Basically say that this was a body of Congress that did not give the American people the truth. | ||
| Its findings cannot be relied on today or in the future. | ||
| And that opens up an entire door of new avenues for Congress and the Justice Department to start investigating. | ||
| Barry Loudon Milk has been asking Mike Johnson for this vote since November. | ||
| The leadership of the Republican Party is still blocking it. | ||
| I think yesterday more Republicans who were lukewarm to the idea got hot and fiery after they saw Biden have to pardon the entire committee. | ||
| Listen, it's an official body of Congress. | ||
| What possibly did the January 6th Committee do that would require an act of presidential clemency? | ||
| If it was that bad, maybe history shouldn't rely on its findings. | ||
| I think that that's the next logical step that's going to happen in Congress. | ||
| I think Mike Johnson might still need a push, but Donald Trump wants it done. | ||
| Barry Loudomilk has laid out a really good case for it. | ||
| I think it's something that could be done quickly. | ||
| It has a downstream effect in civil lawsuits, in criminal prosecutions in the future. | ||
| Once you take that piece of evidence and say it's bogus, It shouldn't be relied on. | ||
| Other things can happen downstream from it. | ||
| Solomon, you're pretty good about headcount. | ||
| What is your sense now, as we're going to go to the ramparts in this, because this is big. | ||
| This is very important. | ||
| It must be done for both history and, as Solomon said, both for history and the contemporary moment. | ||
| What is your sense of where we stand in the conference on this? | ||
| I think if President Trump leaned in on this and Mike Johnson leaned on it, they could get a full vote. | ||
| All Republicans will stick with it. | ||
| A few, if any, Democrats are going to vote. | ||
| I think they can hold their caucus on it. | ||
| And by the way, I think there's a second opportunity to do something similar in the future. | ||
| We had the whole Ukraine impeachment. | ||
| We now know that... | ||
| President Trump had exactly the right to ask for an investigation. | ||
| There was criminality going on with Hunter Biden and Brisma. | ||
| And in the last few years, I got a whole bunch of documents from the State Department that undercut all the testimony that went on in that official proceeding. | ||
| So I think there's a twofer ahead. | ||
| J6 is the first one. | ||
| Julie Kelly's great reporting. | ||
| The reporting I've done. | ||
| Barry Loudermilk, Tom Fitton. | ||
| There's a plenty of body of evidence to repudiate that. | ||
| Solomon, you're quite smart. | ||
| This is Chestnut Checkers. | ||
| Brother, where do people go to get a Just the News site, social media, all of it in your show? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| JusttheNews.com, that's the site. | ||
| I get to follow you every night on this great network, Real America's Voice. | ||
| That's always an honor. | ||
| And Jay Solomon reports on all social media. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| And Amanda, you get Solomon and Amanda head, too. | ||
| Miss Auburn. | ||
| Love Amanda. | ||
| Julie Kelly. | ||
| It's all coming together, ma'am, because you went in a courtroom and dug down on this thing in early 2021. Walk me through where we stand in all this, everything. | ||
| What Solomon's talking about, the repudiation, they haven't let them out of the gulag yet. | ||
| The lawsuit's already flying. | ||
| We're in the fog of war here. | ||
| Help us out, ma'am. | ||
| So J6ers are gradually being released from federal prisons across the country. | ||
| Of course, D.C. Gulag is holding out because that's what they do, because this is a political gulag, so they're going to do whatever they can to extend the torment of Trump supporters in custody there. | ||
| But I'm getting just really moving videos and photographs of men and women who are being released from federal prison, who are cutting off their ankle bracelets. | ||
| You know, this is really such a joyous moment. | ||
| Really, really have to praise President Trump because this was not an easy decision to make, Steve, as you know. | ||
| There was pushback. | ||
| We had Republican senators as late as last. | ||
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Hold on, hold on. | |
| Stop. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| This was brutally hard. | ||
| People have to understand it's the Julie Kellys of the world and his respect. | ||
| For the Tucker Carlsons and the Steve Bannons and the Jack Posobics and the Charlie Kirks and others, they gave a platform to Julie Kelly. | ||
| The pressure against President Trump was incredible. | ||
| Incredible not to do this. | ||
| He did this. | ||
| This is another thing of Trump, and they hate saying it. | ||
| This is another thing of his moral clarity about this moment in history, ma'am. | ||
| That's absolutely right. | ||
| And I really want to emphasize that because this was incredibly hard and incredibly courageous for the president to do. | ||
| Because you had senators and Republican senators and House members who were very vocally opposed to pardoning people accused of violence. | ||
| And, you know, I saw Vice President J.D. Vance last weekend. | ||
| He quickly sort of clarified his comments there. | ||
| I think he became a big supporter of the blanket pardon. | ||
| So, um, I know my work helped. | ||
| Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
| Don't skate over that. | ||
| We gotta talk, we gotta, because of this audience and other patriots. | ||
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Yes. | |
| We love JD, but when he was on Fox and we're going a little wobbly, like Fox wants to, Fox didn't support this at all. | ||
| Murdox don't support this. | ||
| Nobody over there supports this. | ||
| He got a little wobbly. | ||
| He got blown up. | ||
| That was the, that was the inflection point, folks, because of this audience and others like you. | ||
| That follow this and follow Julie Kelly and subscribe to her subsects and say, whoa, hang on for a second. | ||
| Yo, the word is blanket. | ||
| Pardon. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Not some of them. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| And man, it was a... | ||
| Julie Kelly, don't... | ||
| Heaven and earth moved. | ||
| President Trump, all the pressure of the established order was against those people in those prisons. | ||
| They have to understand this became because of years and years and years of effort of Julie Kelly and Darren Beattie reporting on this and the families and Cynthia Hughes and others being out there making their case. | ||
| The established order of the Republican Party wanted them to rot in prison. | ||
| Let's be blunt about this. | ||
| Wanted them to rot in prison and let a couple out and throw a sop to this audience and shut up Bannon and shut up Julie Kelly and shut up Tucker and shut them all up. | ||
| Give them a couple of hundred. | ||
| No. | ||
| All or none. | ||
| What we say is all or none. | ||
| And yes, you're going to take some heat, but you've got to power through this because look at the scum. | ||
| That took a blanket pardon for themselves. | ||
| They know they're criminals, and now we're going to get to the bottom of the Fed's direction. | ||
| You're either with us or you're Guinness, folks. | ||
| You're either with us or you're Guinness. | ||
| This is moral clarity. | ||
| This is cut through the fog of war and say, no, this is right. | ||
| And that's why Trump, for all of his imperfections... | ||
| When it comes down to the tough calls, he sits there and weighs and measures, and then he makes a tough call, and that's why he's got to have his back. | ||
| That's the lesson. | ||
| So ended the lesson, is it not, Julie Kelly? | ||
| It absolutely is, yes. | ||
| And I know that President Trump felt personally very strongly about making these people whole, and I think that there's going to be more to come on that, Steve. | ||
| Steve, I don't think this is the last that we are going to hear about, you know, some sort of exoneration for J6ers. | ||
| This is only one part of the process, I believe. | ||
| And Congress has to get on board with that as well. | ||
| These people's lives have been destroyed. | ||
| Families broken up, divorces, bankruptcies, outcasts in their communities. | ||
| Horrible suicides. | ||
| They can't get jobs. | ||
| Who speaks for Matthew Perna? | ||
| Who speaks for the other three that killed themselves? | ||
| These were broken men by a system. | ||
| Thank God I've got some resources, right? | ||
| They will break you, and they throw you into a prison in that hellhole. | ||
| Hang on a second, Julie. | ||
| Let's go to Ben Burquan. | ||
| Ben, you've got one of the prisoners that have been released from the black hole of Calcutta. | ||
| A disgrace, and everybody associated with the Washington, D.C. jail and prison understand. | ||
| Your day's coming. | ||
| Ben, what do you got for me? | ||
| We've got William Sarsfield just got out. | ||
| Steve, talk to us. | ||
| So you got out of... | ||
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February, or Philadelphia Detention Center, about 3 o'clock this morning. | |
| Yeah, how is it you get out of Philadelphia Detention Center at 3 o'clock in the morning, and you get here to the protest that's going on outside the D.C. jail, where these defiant thugs are abusing American citizens in defiance of a presidential pardon? | ||
| How does that happen? | ||
| They don't even respect the executive authority, they don't respect the rule of law, and they don't respect the American citizens, and that's why this is still happening. | ||
| William, Steve, I didn't have time to put comms in for these guys, but William, what does this mean for you today? | ||
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It means about power and numbers. | |
| We've got to stick together. | ||
| Where we go one, we go all. | ||
| It don't matter who's in front of us and who's going to stop us. | ||
| We'll just walk right over them. | ||
| We're here to say we're free, and the rest of us need to be freed. | ||
| Steve? | ||
| William, real quickly, Philadelphia Attention Center, heard from the guys in Danbury, is a hellhole. | ||
| Tell me about it. | ||
| What was your time there like? | ||
| Steve, when he was in Danbury, he heard Philadelphia Detention Center was a hellhole. | ||
| What was your time like? | ||
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My time was, it was good. | |
| It really was. | ||
| It is what you make of it in any place you go to. | ||
| I know it was overpopulated with individuals that had life sentences, were people that have yet to be sentenced, so there was a lot of fear factor inside of it just because people were unknown where they were going. | ||
| It's more of a holdover for a lot of federal inmates. | ||
| And there's a lot of nefarious people there. | ||
| Can you hang on one second? | ||
| There's a lot of bad actors. | ||
| Just hang on one second. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| Quite dangerous. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return to the scene of the crime, and that is outside the D.C. jail. | ||
| Julie Kelly's with us. | ||
| Ben Burquam. | ||
| We're going to go to Davos very quickly and get an update. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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break. | |
| Back in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| A huge day brought to you by President Trump in the MAGA movement. | ||
| Ben Berquon, we're at the jail. | ||
| We got Trennis Evans hooked up. | ||
| Walk me through. | ||
| We got a couple of minutes before we get a bounce. | ||
| Tell me what is happening. | ||
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Yeah, hey, good morning, Steve. | |
| So listen, here's what's happening right now. | ||
| I'm standing here with William Sarsfield. | ||
| This is a man that condemned USA, represented his interests. | ||
| Our attorneys took care of his cause, and unfortunately, like everyone else, he was bludgeoned with the tyranny and went to prison for what is absolute nonsense. | ||
| However, the situation here is William Sarsfield got out at 3 a.m. | ||
| in PA. He got out in Philadelphia at 3 o'clock in the morning and manages to make it here to where D.C., where they... | ||
| They have defied the presidential order to date. | ||
| We don't have even seen anyone. | ||
| No one's come out. | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| And this is the absolute tyranny that exists. | ||
| The bludgeoning. | ||
| The beatings will continue until morale improves, Steve. | ||
| And you just got word from Laura Logan. | ||
| We got people coming out. | ||
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So, Laura Logan said Jeremy Brown has processed his release paperwork. | |
| But we have some other names we need to be aware of here that are not getting released. | ||
| Elias Konstianos and Peter Krill. | ||
| Those two people. | ||
| And then we have John Woods. | ||
| So, we're going to talk about that. | ||
| I want to follow up with you on that, Steve. | ||
| But, listen, John Woods is an Arkansas State Senator. | ||
| That's another case. | ||
| It's an atrocity. | ||
| And guess who ran that? | ||
| The same corrupt Jack Smith ran the indictment. | ||
| But these guys here make it from out of state, from another prison, to get here today where the D.C. jail hasn't managed to let these people out when they had full notice of the authority of the United States president. | ||
| Trennis, what's your social media base? | ||
| Ben, I'm going to call you on Trennis as soon as the show's over and we'll connect for the evening show. | ||
| Trennis, what's your social media in the interim? | ||
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Yeah, you can reach me at CondemnedUSA. | |
| Everything's at CondemnedUSA. | ||
| Ben Burquam, where do we go to catch up with you between now and the time we come back at 5? | ||
| At Ben Burquam on all social media. | ||
| I'll be posting interviews throughout the day. | ||
| William, anywhere they can find you or support you as you come back out? | ||
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Get a hold of Trenus. | |
| He'll be able to find me. | ||
| Okay, William. | ||
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You're a hero. | |
| Steve, I want you to know this man's wife is a warrior. | ||
| A total warrior. | ||
| Ben, help us connect us and let's get her up on the show. | ||
| We want to get all the families on. | ||
| Guys, we'll be back at 5. Charlie Kirk follows us at noon. | ||
| I think Charlie's back in today. | ||
| Poso after that, we're back 5 to 7. Julie Kelly, parting thoughts, ma'am. | ||
| This is, like I said, there's a long way to go, but this is a start. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| Just amazing to see that defendant free. | ||
| I'm not familiar with his case. | ||
| But to your point, Steve, as you know, putting these J6ers in federal prisons on low-level offenses with some of the country's most dangerous criminals just underscores what an evil man Merrick Garland is, what an evil man Matthew Graves is, what an evil woman Lisa Monaco is. | ||
| None of them got presidential pardons yesterday by Joe Biden, and they should be at the top of the list for really They're inhumane abuse of Trump supporters over the past four years. | ||
| Every dog will have its day, and now the hunters become the hunted. | ||
| Julie Kelly, where do people go? | ||
| You've been a hero in this. | ||
| I mean, quite frankly, this would never have happened if it was not for you. | ||
| You've changed American history. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Well, thank you, Steve. | ||
| And it wouldn't have happened without you covering my work and without the War Room Posse rooting and sharing this the whole way. | ||
| So Declassified with Julie Kelly is my substack, Real Clear Investigations, also reporting there. | ||
| And ex-Twitter, Julie underscore Kelly, too. | ||
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Great work. | |
| Talk to you after the show. | ||
| Great work, ma'am. | ||
| - Sounds good. - We gotta get on what we'll be working on with Fenton. | ||
| We gotta get on this vote in the House. | ||
| Absolutely correct, then you go to Ukraine. | ||
| Jay Yen, done with debt. | ||
| People are getting out of prison today. | ||
| What I don't wanna have happen in these tough economic times until President Trump's plan's fully implemented is get into the prison of debt. | ||
| If you put, if the credit card bail comes and you put it in the drawer, you're condemning yourself. | ||
| You can't, I know people have anxiety. | ||
| They have angst. | ||
| But what they need to do is open that drawer, take it, and then call it done with debt. | ||
| Why do they need to do that, ma'am? | ||
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Well, Steve, you brought up the perfect reason these J6 patriots getting out. | |
| You were talking about some of them. | ||
| You know, all of the horrible things happening in their life. | ||
| Debt and bankruptcy could be some of them. | ||
| And what they should do as they face this new life and try to get back on track, and if finances are in that spectrum. | ||
| Go to Done With Debt because Done With Debt is going to help them get back on track. | ||
| Essentially, they'll be assigned their own team to help them with a strategy. | ||
| They'll stand in front of you. | ||
| They will shield all those letters and calls that Steve's talking about that give you the harassing feeling of anxiety, and they'll cut. | ||
| And sometimes they'll cut interest rates and penalties. | ||
| They can renegotiate your balances. | ||
| They do things that we as citizens don't know about. | ||
| And they can help put an end to your debt. | ||
| And some of the debt will completely get wiped out. | ||
| And in some cases, people end up... | ||
| With money in their pocket. | ||
| And I think that today, of all days, is a perfect day to be here and talk to your viewers about Done With Debt. | ||
| It is so important, as you said, anxiety. | ||
| They've already had four years of And Jillian, here's the thing. | ||
| The reason these folks are out is because over the last couple weeks, this audience had their back. | ||
| This was all could have gone either way. | ||
| The point is we need you at the ramparts and we can't have you sucked down. | ||
| We understand with inflation, people have been using credit cards, particularly younger people have been using credit cards. | ||
| Once that gets out of control, 25 to 29 percent APR, you can't look the other way. | ||
| Where do they go today? | ||
| You mentioned the team. | ||
| People need a team. | ||
| And they're going to tell you flat out right up front, hey, we can help you. | ||
| We can't. | ||
| It's all free. | ||
| Where do they go today to make that call? | ||
| And who do they talk to, Jillian? | ||
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Thank you. | |
| It's called donewithdebt.com. | ||
| Remember, debt is big business. | ||
| Not for you. | ||
| For them. | ||
| So donewithdebt.com. | ||
| They'll give you a free consultation and then get your team together to work for you to clean up your business. | ||
| And it's brilliant. | ||
| Donewithdebt.com. | ||
| Thank you so much, Steve, to have me on on such an incredible day for these J6 Patriots. | ||
| I appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You're a patriot too, ma'am, what you've come through. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Human agency. | ||
| She walked through fire. | ||
| That's where she's a perfect spokesman for done with debt. | ||
| Do not let debt. | ||
| Debt and taxes. | ||
| Don't let it take you down. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| We need you. | ||
| We need you to fix bayonets at the ramparts. | ||
| Charlie Kirk on Real America's Voice, followed by Jack Pasoba. | ||
| We're back 5 to 7 tonight. | ||
| It's going to be an insane day. | ||
| We'll have all the players for you to meet and hear what's going on. | ||
| 5 o'clock, back in the world. |
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