Jan. 18, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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That President Biden is reportedly considering preemptive pardons of Trump's political enemies, maybe on January 19th or 20th. | |
| What's your feeling about that? | ||
| I gotta say, I feel like I'm out of step with most of the commentariat on this, because from the very beginning, from the first time that was first reported, I just felt like, oh yeah, definitely, you should do that. | ||
| And I know it's not that simple, and I understand the arguments against it, which is, as Biden himself has articulated, like... | ||
| These people have done nothing wrong. | ||
| Why do they need a pardon? | ||
| I also understand, like, oh, if you give these pardons, then that will give you less of a moral leg to stand on for criticizing Trump's abuse of the pardon power. | ||
| Trump is already very happy abusing the pardon power. | ||
| Trump gave a pardon to Jared Kushner's dad and now is making him ambassador to France. | ||
| Like, the idea that Trump is looking for, like... | ||
| Other recent presidents to decide what's morally and politically acceptable when it comes to pardons is ridiculous. | ||
| He pardoned Paul Manafort. | ||
| He, you know, interfered in Roger Stone's sentencing and got Michael Flynn's plea over it. | ||
| I mean, the guy... | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| The idea that there's any sort of like moral calculus that involves a comparison of Donald Trump to anybody on these things, I just think is not living in reality. | ||
| And I think that Biden realistically can count on the fact that Trump is not going to act in good faith, that if he's going to put in an attorney general who at the Republican National Convention said, yeah, lock her up. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| If he's going to put somebody like Cash QAnon Patel and the head of the FBI who says he's going to abolish the FBI and turn it into a museum of the deep state. | ||
| I mean, yeah, you're not talking about a good faith cast of characters who's planning on using the criminal justice system in a way that, you know, meets our historical standards for what counts as as serious and well predicated action. | ||
| And so, yeah, he should protect people who don't deserve to be abused with that system. | ||
| And Trump Trump has been and Patel has been open enough about they've been open enough about who exactly they're planning on on going after. | ||
| They should just take the entire list of 60 people in Patel's book. | ||
| And on the basis of the fact that they're in Patel's book, give them all pardons. | ||
| All the people who Trump has threatened on the campaign trial, give them pardons. | ||
| You're not dealing with somebody who's looking to you to make, you know, fine, morally grained distinctions here about how he's going to use the pardon power based on what you do with it. | ||
| Just protect people who don't don't deserve to be destroyed by these people who are promising to do it. | ||
| I just don't think it's that hard. | ||
| What he did in the Oval Office address the other night, what he continuously reiterated in the excellent interview that Lawrence conducted, is that Joe Biden understands this moment. | ||
| And he wants the American people to understand this moment as well. | ||
| He is not going out, you know, all rainbows and bunnies, as I like to say, and giving a laundry list of all his accomplishments and says, oh, it's going to be all right. | ||
| He is warning us all that if we do not stand guard, if we do not do something, in the words of, you know, Michelle Obama, this country is going to become something that we do not recognize. | ||
| And I know some people might say that that's hyperbole, but look around. | ||
| Open your eyes. | ||
| If there are mass deportation efforts and mass anti-immigrant raids and they are carried out in the spirit that Stephen Miller and Tom Homan and Donald Trump and J.D. Vance have been talking about for the last few months. | ||
| And those start, as is being reported today in The Wall Street Journal and elsewhere, those start within hours of the inaugural. | ||
| I think that we are going to see resistance to those things. | ||
| I think we are going to see communities react to households and. | ||
| And businesses being raided and families being torn apart and them trying to build camps to put people in and all of that stuff they say they're going to do, that's going to start, according to recent reporting, within 24 hours of the swearing-in. | ||
| And I think that sort of reactive demonstration we should probably count on. | ||
| And I think the cities where they're threatening these deportation actions in the first 24 hours, whether it's Chicago or New York or L.A. or Miami or Denver or wherever else they're going to try, I think there is going to be a local reaction. | ||
| I don't know how well organized or visceral it's going to be, but that could potentially be a big deal, and I think that we should be ready. | ||
| Again, sort of ready for anything in terms of what that turns into. | ||
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I agree with you. | |
| And I also think the fact that the White House is floating the notion of potential preemptive pardons right now when it's the closing hours of the Biden administration is a pretty good indicator that it's going to happen or that they're quite close to convincing the president. | ||
| Because otherwise, why confirm it? | ||
| We'll see that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I just think, like with the January 6th committee, for example, like I'm sure there's distinctions between some of those people wanting the pardon and some of them not. | ||
| Ignore that. | ||
| Just give them all the same pardon. | ||
| Give the same pardon to literally everybody who's in Kash Patel's book, to everybody who Trump has singled out on the campaign trail, or that members of his campaign have singled out. | ||
| Members of the transition have singled out. | ||
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Just do it. | |
| And yeah, people grind their teeth about it, but it will also prevent those people from being destroyed by a bad faith incoming administration that's promising to destroy them for political reasons and as an abuse of our criminal justice system. | ||
| You can protect it with the stroke of a pen. | ||
| You can protect those people with the stroke of a pen. | ||
| And I just I just really think that President Biden should do it. | ||
| And I hope he does. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass. | ||
| It's Saturday, 18 January, in the year of our Lord, 2025. You're in the War Room on the, I don't know, we've got 48 hours. | ||
| We'll end today and we have 48 hours. | ||
| A new 48 hours until the inauguration of the 47th President of the United States. | ||
| We would love to sit here and tell you about all the, you know, celebrations and it's all rah-rah and everything's great, but we want to give you a reality check of what's going on. | ||
| Biden, as we've warned about, warned you about for weeks and weeks and weeks, President Biden and that illegitimate regime that's being turfed out. | ||
| Right now they're doing everything possible to set traps for President Trump. | ||
| Just a random occurrence. | ||
| Janet Yellen has announced that the debt ceiling will be hit. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
| At 9 o'clock in the morning on Tuesday, the 21st. | ||
| Isn't that surprising? | ||
| I'm so shocked. | ||
| How did that happen with all the possible dates we hit the dead ceiling? | ||
| The very first full day of President Trump's second term. | ||
| Also, Biden's out with the executive orders now trying to basically thwart everything on the border and immigration. | ||
| They're still on a tear with the war in Ukraine, the kinetic wars on a tear. | ||
| And believe me, The ceasefire in Israel and Gaza is 100% the work of President Trump. | ||
| I understand a lot of people in our audience are not happy with that. | ||
| A lot of people on the right in Israel are not happy in that. | ||
| They think she should be able to finish the job. | ||
| They should be able to finish the job with Hamas and with the Muslim Brotherhood, right? | ||
| Correct? | ||
| But it's still President Trump's work. | ||
| Biden did nothing on this. | ||
| It was the pressure of President Trump on Bibi Netanyahu to say, hey, we've got to get these hostages exchanged. | ||
| You've got to have a ceasefire. | ||
| At least we've got to get some order over there. | ||
| Everywhere you look, on every one of the verticals we've talked about, on ending the kinetic part of the Third World War, on taking care of the debt and the deficit and all the problems we have there from how Biden did this to the deportation of, I don't know, 15 million illegal alien invaders. | ||
| I'd say it's 12. Who knows? | ||
| It's a massive number. | ||
| It's going to take years and cost a lot of money. | ||
| And Biden's not going to help. | ||
| They're going to be in your face. | ||
| It was announced. | ||
| Todd Benson's going to be in a little while. | ||
| It was announced we're going to have an ICE raid in the city of Chicago. | ||
| So President Trump's going to sit there right now. | ||
| The mayor of Chicago is going to say, I'm a sanctuary city, and you're not going to take any illegal aliens out of here. | ||
| Tom Homan and Stephen Miller are saying, well, okay, let's just get it done. | ||
| Let's go ahead and vet that right now, right at the top. | ||
| And they're going to do it. | ||
| Now, they leaked it to the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| I don't know why they did that, but they did it, so it's public information. | ||
| Now, Benzman's going to join us. | ||
| Also, the Catholic Church to make sure that the fake pope has got his hand in this. | ||
| He's announced he's put for one of the most radical cardinals to be the senior cardinal in the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. Right? | ||
| I think it's McElroy. | ||
| And he is an open borders, anti-deportation. | ||
| They're doing that so that the... | ||
| This radical left-wing group that runs the Catholic Church today, which, by the way, there's going to be a criminal investigation of the invasion of the southern border, a massive criminal investigation on the invasion of the southern border. | ||
| And when you see that, the Catholic charities are going to be wrapped up in that, right? | ||
| Are going to be wrapped up in that. | ||
| So we'll get to see all that later. | ||
| With John Yeps going to join us and hopefully get Liz Yor to join us too. | ||
| So we're going to confront that today. | ||
| Across the board, everywhere you see, there's a resistance. | ||
| Now, where you didn't see the resistance, where they had a chance to have the resistance, was this week at the cabinet secretaries, the confirmation hearings. | ||
| Remember, the pregame or the preamble to Days of Thunder. | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| You had Marco Rubio. | ||
| Senator Rubio sat there and said, we've got the end of the rules-based order. | ||
| We're seeing the end of the rules-based order, and quite frankly, the system was gamed. | ||
| It doesn't work for the United States. | ||
| It was underwriting. | ||
| We're going to do away with that. | ||
| Democrats, crickets. | ||
| You had Pete Hexas say we're going to have a revolution in military affairs. | ||
| Younger officers are going to run this. | ||
| We're going to reinstall into the Pentagon, into our forces, the warrior ethos and how to win wars, not to have these forever wars so the defense contractors make out and everybody else ends up in either... | ||
| Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery or in a VA hospital or somehow, you know, homeless on the side of the road or 26 veterans a day with PTSD. We're finished that. | ||
| Pushback by the Democrats, not one. | ||
| I don't know, the heritans on the female senators went after him for his personal foibles, right? | ||
| Nothing about any deep issues. | ||
| Don't believe me. | ||
| David Birx of the New York Times goes after basically the Democratic Party. | ||
| For not really laying a glove on Hexa, on anything policy. | ||
| You had Kristi Noem yesterday. | ||
| They gave up. | ||
| At the end of it, the senators weren't even there. | ||
| Kristi Noem, with everything that's going on with deportations, everything that's going on with immigration, everything that's going on with security of the border, a couple of feckless questions, and then nothing. | ||
| Scott Besson and Russ Vogt lay out the president's economic plan pretty succinctly about spending, about taxes, about tariffs. | ||
| You had some yammering by Wyden asking, you know, like some questions you would ask as a freshman in an economics course to a professor about, hey, tell me, I don't understand how this works. | ||
| They're trying to say how it works. | ||
| It didn't work. | ||
| Wyden from Oregon looked terrible. | ||
| So you've just got consistently across the board, Pam Bondi gives her theory of the case for... | ||
| You know, for how she's going to run the Justice Department, how she's going to de-weaponize the Justice Department, how she's going to stop the weaponization of the Justice Department against, I don't know, 70-year-old women who are now in federal prison for praying the rosy outside of abortion mills. | ||
| I think there's 26, we'll get this, there's been a petition from President Trump, 26 folks who prayed in front of abortion centers now in federal prison. | ||
| Many of those people in their late 60s, early 70s. | ||
| Or how about the intimidation of parents at school board meetings? | ||
| Or the conservative traditional Catholics? | ||
| Right? | ||
| The FBI, the Justice Department. | ||
| She lays out the whole case for two days. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Nothing but crickets. | ||
| What they're asking her is the 2020 election legitimate. | ||
| It's the 2020 election. | ||
| And she answered over and over and over again, hey, Biden's president. | ||
| Deal with it. | ||
| We'll give him the short answer. | ||
| Biden is illegitimate. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Very well known he's illegitimate. | ||
| It's one of the reasons the American people turfed him out, because two-thirds of the Republican Party now think he's illegitimate, stole the election. | ||
| I don't know, 50% of independents, 20, 25% of Democrats. | ||
| The Biden regime is going out like they came in with no class. | ||
| No class. | ||
| What they did the first day is they undid all the executive orders that President Trump had that allowed him to have control of the border. | ||
| And make the United States of America a sovereign nation that responds to and supports its citizens, not illegal alien invaders, not particularly 12 to 15 million. | ||
| All over D.C. right now, the game's being played. | ||
| I got a notice for the Biden regime. | ||
| Days of Thunder means Days of Thunder. | ||
| Get your bags packed because you're leaving. | ||
| All of you, thousands of you, are going to be turfed out right after noon on Monday. | ||
| From U.S. attorneys to guys on boards, you're all gone. | ||
| So get your bags packed. | ||
| If you stick around, I hope you face criminal charges. | ||
| People have had enough of this. | ||
| You know, you lost. | ||
| You got blown out. | ||
| You had every chance. | ||
| You created the oligarchs. | ||
| The oligarchs are talking about created on your watch. | ||
| You were the ones that bailed out Silicon Valley Bank, not President Trump. | ||
| We had no power for four years. | ||
| You had all the power. | ||
| You created the oligarchs to suppress the MAGA movement. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| You lost. | ||
| And now all you're doing is to have a peaceful transfer. | ||
| You're fighting and fighting and fighting. | ||
| It's not acceptable. | ||
| We're going to go through that in a spirit of celebration. | ||
| Here in the world, short break. | ||
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Welcome back. | |
| You have... | ||
| Work so hard for years in the Trump first term, but in the second term, remember 20 January. | ||
| Make sure it's emblazoned on your soul. | ||
| 20 January 2021. When President Trump went to Andrews Air Force Base, nobody went with him. | ||
| There's no big farewell. | ||
| They wanted to get rid of him. | ||
| They never, ever, ever, ever thought in one billion years that he would return four years later, having swept everything. | ||
| And having kind of ultimate full-spectrum dominance powers we talk about, although the margins are small. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| But he's changed the mindset of the country. | ||
| You can already tell that. | ||
| We would love to be able to celebrate that. | ||
| But here in the war room, we celebrate that by making sure that his most battle-hardened people are ready to go and ready to roll because you can tell behind the scenes all they're trying to do is resist and stop President Trump on his first... | ||
| On his first, you know, first hundred days, which will set the template or the tone of this second term. | ||
| Everything the Biden regime is doing, everything in every area is to thwart President Trump and President Trump's policies. | ||
| The thing that's kind of most egregious, not the most egregious, but it's offensive. | ||
| Let's say it's offensive. | ||
| Is Biden, on his farewell address to the nation, I mean, why is he even given a farewell address? | ||
| He went over to the Defense Department and gave a farewell address like they care. | ||
| He should go over to Section 60 at Arlington, and that is where the warriors from the Iraq and Afghan war are buried, in that section of Arlington National Cemetery. | ||
| And he should address them, and particularly the 13 that he essentially had murdered, and that's what they were, killed. | ||
| In the line of duty in Afghanistan, that debauch over a retreat. | ||
| But everything he's doing, address the nation, it's like Washington's address to the nation, his federal address, Eisenhower's. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| And MSNBC makes such a big deal about this and didn't have that embarrassing interview with him afterwards. | ||
| His ratings are in the 20s. | ||
| People just want him gone. | ||
| And on one level, they're finishing with a whimper. | ||
| On another level, they are working everywhere to stop this. | ||
| And I think President Trump and his team have just had enough of it. | ||
| And to know the good job that President Trump's team's doing, just look at last week on the confirmation news. | ||
| Remember, we were all over, cutting back and forth, this, bang, bang, bang. | ||
| It turned out they didn't lay a glove on anybody. | ||
| All those people last week are getting confirmed. | ||
| Did the Democrats think that going in? | ||
| This also reinforced the fact we should have never given up on Gates. | ||
| And more importantly, we shouldn't let Gates give up on himself. | ||
| Gates would have been the Attorney General. | ||
| Pam's going to be great. | ||
| But Gates puts fear into the apparatus. | ||
| He would have been the Attorney General. | ||
| They're not stopping Trump now, you can tell. | ||
| There's not even any intellectual firepower to come back on. | ||
| So what do they have to do? | ||
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Oh, it's oligarchs, oligarchs, oligarchs, oligarchs. | |
| Stop. | ||
| Just stop. | ||
| Just stop. | ||
| We've had no power. | ||
| None. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| President Trump was a contender for no power. | ||
| We have no control of anything. | ||
| You got Johnson up there, but we have no power. | ||
| MAGA has no power. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| The oligarchs are a creation of the Biden regime. | ||
| A creation. | ||
| Now, when it started, it started with the bailouts of in 2008. We're still trying to recover from the solutions to the 2008 problem. | ||
| The problem was bad enough created by Bush in Congress. | ||
| The solutions done by Obama and Congress, the solutions were terrible because that really led to the greatest concentration of wealth in the nation's history, the way we bailed out the insurance companies and the banks and the investment banks. | ||
| We bailed them out. | ||
| I think they put $5 trillion, $5 trillion, the Federal Reserve pumped $5 trillion, $5 or $6 trillion, real money at the time, into the system to save the system. | ||
| Did you get a bailout? | ||
| No, you did not. | ||
| Did African-Americans and Hispanics have bought the houses, right, that might have been a little bit outside the grass they get a ballot? | ||
| No, they got zeroed out and blown out, okay? | ||
| That's the way the system works. | ||
| And Obama, the big progressive, he did it. | ||
| Geithner. | ||
| The reason he did it, he didn't know enough about it. | ||
| He was kind of a babe in the woods. | ||
| Don't trust me. | ||
| Read the books at the time. | ||
| Susskind's book, Confidence Man, it shows you Obama's kind of wandering around constitutional lawyer. | ||
| You're in the middle of a financial meltdown. | ||
| You don't need to, you know, the Constitution, you can check it. | ||
| It's a contract. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| I know what you got to do, but it's the bailout that is the most important thing. | ||
| They didn't know what he was doing. | ||
| So we bailed out the wealthy. | ||
| Led to the greatest concentration of wealth and power in this nation. | ||
| And then Biden comes in after President Trump had to deal with that. | ||
| And all those oligarchs were shutting us down the entire time in the first term. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| Because we caught them sleeping in 16, particularly Facebook. | ||
| And we're able to use Facebook like it was supposed to be used, and they all, after that, went down and shut it down. | ||
| This show, hey, we are permanently banned everywhere. | ||
| You don't hear me on this show whining about that? | ||
| I don't give a tinker's damn about that. | ||
| I do not. | ||
| This show is the second biggest political podcast in the country on politics because the content people like and people share the content. | ||
| I'm a populist. | ||
| I'm not going to kowtow to Zuckerberg. | ||
| He's a criminal. | ||
| Bezos, he's a weirdo. | ||
| Musk? | ||
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No. | |
| Not gonna do it. | ||
| Google? | ||
| Those guys? | ||
| They're beauts. | ||
| No. | ||
| YouTube banned forever. | ||
| Big deal. | ||
| Could care less. | ||
| But this thing of oligarchs, for President Trump, it's a surrender ceremony. | ||
| They're not there to exert their power. | ||
| We broke them. | ||
| More importantly, you broke them. | ||
| They were against Trump from the beginning. | ||
| We were banned everywhere. | ||
| Trump was banned everywhere. | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| What did you see with Zuckerberg running down with his little million-dollar check? | ||
| Please, please, please. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| He doesn't want a criminal investigation. | ||
| Brother, you're going to get one. | ||
| You're going to get one because you deserve it. | ||
| We've got to get to the bottom of 2020. People say, yo, Steve, you've got to look forward. | ||
| Hey, we are looking forward. | ||
| President Trump's looking forward to the sunlit uplands. | ||
| That's why he's working on peace and prosperity. | ||
| But there's some of the work that's got to take place. | ||
| It just has to. | ||
| We can walk and chew gum. | ||
| We're a big country. | ||
| We're a hegemon right now. | ||
| Still. | ||
| Hegemons can do a couple of three things. | ||
| They created the oligarchs, and we broke the oligarchs. | ||
| That is what this story's about, and now they're freaked out. | ||
| The reason they're turning on them is because the oligarchs have surrendered. | ||
| The oligarchs surrendered. | ||
| That's why they're turning on them. | ||
| It's obvious. | ||
| You broke them. | ||
| People with no power, with no money. | ||
| Because you used your agency and collectively you had the back of a guy who sat there and had the moral courage to say, guess what, I'm going to come back and do this. | ||
| You had his back. | ||
| Why were we in East Palestine yesterday? | ||
| One, to hear the problems haven't been solved, but that's the inflection point of this campaign when Trump went to East Palestine and nobody else did and nobody else could. | ||
| Oh, excuse me, they sent Pete Buttigieg. | ||
| That's a beauty. | ||
| Put his goggles on. | ||
| It looked like some third grader for the first day of school. | ||
| Or look like, you know, come dressed as what you want to be. | ||
| Well, I want to be a working man. | ||
| Put a vest on, a goofy helmet, and a set of goggles. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| That's going to go out against President Trump? | ||
| That's called nerd rule. | ||
| That's what we had during the pandemic with Fauci and all these guys on TV, you know, all the experts, all the people in white coats on MSNBC. We've had nerd rule during the pandemic of Biden. | ||
| We've had nerd rule by the oligarchs. | ||
| They turned the power to the oligarchs. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| You. | ||
| Everyday Americans with common sense, grit, determination, you broke them. | ||
| And you had an instrument to break them. | ||
| It's called Donald Trump, who not only showed the moral courage to come back, but then showed the physical courage when they tried to assassinate him, to get up on the stage and said, what were his words? | ||
| Surrender? | ||
| What was his words? | ||
| Let's have unity. | ||
| What was his words? | ||
| And let me think, let me think. | ||
| Oh yeah, I remember. | ||
| Fight, fight, fight. | ||
| As he's bleeding, shot in the side of the head. | ||
| Only by the grace of God did he not take a bullet in the temple. | ||
| And they're here today, the opposition. | ||
| Don't think they're just going to toss you the keys and say, hey, guess what? | ||
| We gave it a shot. | ||
| The four years didn't work out. | ||
| We'll get you next time. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| The administrative state and the deep state are dug in, and they're dug in hard. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And Biden, these guys, Biden's leaving because he's, I don't know, he's not fully with the program, you can tell that, but they got many, they got ranks and ranks and ranks of these guys. | ||
| Dave Bratt, before we go to break, put this in perspective. | ||
| Todd Benson's going to join us about Chicago. | ||
| We got John Yepp about the Catholics trying to get in here. | ||
| I shouldn't say the Catholics, not the traditional Catholics, but the fake Pope and his crowd trying to get in here. | ||
| Bratt, what do you got for me? | ||
| Yeah, what I got is your whole discussion about oligarchs. | ||
| The big framing narrative is the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| And people say, why do you got to go there all the time, Dave? | ||
| Because none of the oligarchs, and especially Soros, doesn't fit within that narrative, right? | ||
| If you'll notice, everything we love in this country, the populist movement, the nationalism, God has framed three orders, right? | ||
| The nation-state and then the church. | ||
| And the synagogue and then the family, all of those are being ripped apart. | ||
| They fit in with the war room three issues. | ||
| They've torn apart the economy and the debt and the deficits. | ||
| They're tearing apart our financial system and the lives of the bottom half of this country. | ||
| They're tearing apart the border. | ||
| All of this is biblical, right? | ||
| Joseph, if you haven't read the Old Testament, he was the manager of the grain and people had. | ||
| To be disciplined over the long run because there's seven good years and seven bad years, right? | ||
| We got some bad years coming likely, right? | ||
| The third issue, of course, is war. | ||
| And so these oligarchs, they do not fit within the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| Which one of them has mentioned God and God's order of things? | ||
| None. | ||
| If that strikes you as odd, it's also Rubio, very good comments in his testimony. | ||
| He brought up Soros. | ||
| And he brought up his book and his mentor, Karl Popper, Logical Positivism, That School of Thought. | ||
| If you don't know that, go look it up. | ||
| But Milton Friedman studied that stuff and tried to square the circle, and he couldn't because he was trying to reduce everything to just the empirical realm. | ||
| That whole project, the post-World War II liberal order, the open society, how can you be against that? | ||
| Very easily because Soros does not believe in the open society and he does not believe in you and he does not believe in freedom and he just won the freedom medal from the President of the United States. | ||
| It's an outrage. | ||
| The last thing he believes is in letting you dictate the future of your own country. | ||
| He's opposed to freedom and he's opposed to the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
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| Hang over a second, Brother Brett. | ||
| You're going to stick with the co-host all morning. | ||
| Ben's going to join us. | ||
| John Yep's going to join us. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. | ||
| We've got a lot to go through. | ||
| It's a working Saturday here in the World War Room on inauguration weekend. | ||
| Days of thunder are ahead. | ||
| Already had a pretty good preamble on that. | ||
| Pretty good pregame. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
| ...of an American oligarchy. | ||
| I think it's an incredibly important... | ||
| I mean, the choices he's made in these final days should leave no doubt in anyone's mind that it's as dire as people have been mourning. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And, you know, to be clear, that is not how Joe Biden talks. | ||
| You know, anyone who knows the president, he doesn't speak like that. | ||
| This is not a speech, frankly, that he had given before. | ||
| And that... | ||
| Anyone. | ||
| Just take a look at what he has said. | ||
| That should let you know that he understands this moment. | ||
| The president is someone who believes in the institutions, right? | ||
| He talked about with the interview with Lawrence why he got into public service in the first place. | ||
| He started as a county councilman and then became the youngest person ever elected to the United States Senate at one point in time. | ||
| Then, obviously, vice president and now president. | ||
| Joe Biden is someone that even when we worked for him and we would say, you know, I would get in a very spirited It would sound sometimes that he is talking about a Congress and a way of life and politics that no longer exists. | ||
| And for all of us, even people that worked for him that doubted him... | ||
| Simone, good try, good try, good try. | ||
| Let me repeat this. | ||
| This is information war and narrative war. | ||
| They created the oligarchs. | ||
| They created the oligarchs in the social media because it worked for them for state control, state power, to suppress you, your voice. | ||
| Yes, suppress Trump as the head of our movement, but also to suppress at every step. | ||
| How many of you deplatformed? | ||
| How many? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Particularly if you want to talk about, I don't know, the vaccine, the COVID mandates, the mask mandates, the election, anything that was interesting to you. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| That you're right on 100% Wuhan lab. | ||
| Remember Wuhan lab? | ||
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Think of what you were suppressed for. | |
| The drag queen story hours, right? | ||
| The pornography they're putting in the schools. | ||
| Let's go through. | ||
| FBI then doing raids, all working in conjunction. | ||
| They created the oligarchs because it worked for them. | ||
| Never in a billion years did they ever think we would win. | ||
| Now they're turning on their own. | ||
| This is fine. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Rachel, we're going to show you how to deal with oligarchs. | ||
| Could it be some, you know, inter-squad scrimmage on our side of the football? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| You've seen a little of this so far. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| This is what it is. | ||
| It's all a process. | ||
| It's all a process. | ||
| That's what they don't understand. | ||
| Brett, their new take this morning is War Room and Bannon are going to be beaten from the right. | ||
| Somebody's going to get to the right of the War Room and the War Room posse. | ||
| And their thing is, oh, the Libertarians, the crypto guys and the crypto, because the crypto guys had a big ball here last night. | ||
| And Elon Musk, they're going to get us from the right. | ||
| Dave Brett, your thoughts on that? | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I mean, they own the ink, right? | ||
| They own the papers. | ||
| So they're trying to set the new narrative. | ||
| They're going to fail spectacularly because of this show is putting information out for the war room posse, and it's spreading across the country. | ||
| I'm traveling across the country, and these messages, Trump's messages, the RNC platform message is spreading like wildfire. | ||
| Everybody knows you've been lied to. | ||
| You just went through the whole list. | ||
| I mean, they just assaulted—the left wants to take down the country. | ||
| They want to take down every major institution. | ||
| And so now they're framing this new war at war with the right. | ||
| They're calling the oligarchs the right because the oligarchs are kind of like the old Paul Ryan country club Republicans, right? | ||
| So they're the rich guys that controlled the apparatus for 30 or 40 years and ruined our party and lost our connection with the people. | ||
| Well, now we have black, brown, blue-collar Hispanic folks coming our way, and we are given a message that resonates, right, with that R.R. Reno book, The Return of the Strong Gods, that Russ Vogt pushes, and that you just heard Senator Rubio pushing in his confirmation heroes. | ||
| They have tried to strip us of everything we love. | ||
| And this new open society, liberal, rules-based order, there's nothing you love, right? | ||
| There's nothing that binds the people together, that attaches us together as citizens and brothers and sisters in faith even higher. | ||
| The country is yearning for that, right? | ||
| I'm at Liberty University. | ||
| Let me tell you, when I go out on the road, people are yearning for us to take a leadership position in the world again. | ||
| Because they know that narrative is the narrative of the past 4,000 years, 2,000 years of Christianity. | ||
| All of our institutions used to fit within that narrative. | ||
| Rachel Maddow is interesting. | ||
| I've never heard of any of this kind of thing. | ||
| Well, yeah, shocker, Rachel. | ||
| You haven't heard of anything that fits within the Judeo-Christian West because you're trying to tear it all apart. | ||
| And so that's the great debate. | ||
| Every issue fits underneath that paradigm. | ||
| I want to go to some of the practicality. | ||
| First off, I want to thank our sponsor, Birch Gold. | ||
| If you don't think there's going to be turbulence, folks, let me give you a heads up. | ||
| Janet Yellen announced yesterday her last thing on the last day of work. | ||
| She waddles out of there, and what does Janet Yellen say? | ||
| Oh, by the way, the debt ceiling is hit at 9 a.m. | ||
| Tuesday morning. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| The first full workday of Trump's second term. | ||
| You think that's random? | ||
| Think that just kind of happened? | ||
| You think she just checked on her computer? | ||
| Let me see that debt thing. | ||
| Oh, yeah, right. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| The debt. | ||
| We've hit the debt ceiling. | ||
| We have to go to emergency measures. | ||
| It was Russ Vogt who created the waterfall, the emergency measures, along with myself and others in the OMB guys back in April and May of 2017, understanding we were going to hit a debt ceiling then. | ||
| Russ Vogt's ahead of us. | ||
| So he's forgotten more than show over no and Scott Besson. | ||
| So don't worry about it. | ||
| It shows you what they've done to jerry-rig and gundec the entire refinancing of this debt short-term that Scott Bess is going to step in and have a mess. | ||
| What does it mean for you? | ||
| It means for you that now you get the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| We're going to have a very special offer next week to bundle all this up and go to the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Get modern monetary theory. | ||
| Start to understand what this city still doesn't understand. | ||
| The imperial capital doesn't understand. | ||
| That you just can't make it up out of thin air. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| For 5,000 years, gold's been a hedge against thinking like that. | ||
| Whether it's tulips in Holland, right? | ||
| Or various manias throughout the world. | ||
| I think maybe now we have a mania for the creation of money. | ||
| Out of thin air. | ||
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| We don't talk down to you. | ||
| We talk up to you like we would a chairman or a CEO of a company. | ||
| This show's built around kind of giving briefings like for the C-suite, right? | ||
| But go to birch.org. | ||
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| Hey, I don't know. | ||
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| Do we have a clip? | ||
| Do I have Todd Bensman? | ||
| Okay, I want to turn, Dave's here with me today, always said the big picture framing in the Judeo-Christian West in our history. | ||
| As a constitutional republic, which we have to get back to. | ||
| Benzman, and I don't know how long we're going to have Benzman for. | ||
| You know, we lost Besant. | ||
| We lost Navarro. | ||
| We lost Vote. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| These guys are great. | ||
| They've been great contributors and really enlightened us the last couple of years. | ||
| They have work to do in the administration assisting President Trump and executing President Trump's ideas and his plans. | ||
| There's going to be a showdown on Monday. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I'm not so sure I would have leaked it to the Wall Street Journal, but hey, it is what it is. | ||
| There's going to be a showdown Tuesday. | ||
| Well, Monday with the Biden regime. | ||
| And Biden regime, let me just say again, anybody that's associated with the Biden regime, get your bags packed and call an Uber. | ||
| And don't stick around afternoon on the 20th. | ||
| Because you're not wanted. | ||
| You're not welcome. | ||
| You're gone. | ||
| And I think some people are going to try to be feisty about it. | ||
| Okay, be as feisty as you want. | ||
| Be as feisty as you want. | ||
| Do what you do. | ||
| You're free men and women. | ||
| Do what you do. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| I think you want to put on notice, your services are no longer wanted. | ||
| So take a hint. | ||
| On Tuesday, there's going to be a showdown. | ||
| Let's play the clip and we'll get the great Todd Benzman in here. | ||
| There's going to be a showdown in Chicago. | ||
| I think it's greatest in Chicago. | ||
| The heart of the Midwest, right? | ||
| One of the great cities, the second city in the United States. | ||
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| We'll get into that. | ||
| Let's go play the clip. | ||
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The Wall Street Journal is reporting tonight that the administration, the incoming Trump administration, is planning to start large-scale deportations on Tuesday, deploying as many as 200 ICE officers to Chicago. | |
| I just want to say, just for people who aren't familiar with the number of officers it takes to engage in large-scale raids, 200 officers seems like a lot. | ||
| Marco Rubio is saying they want to deport 10, 20, 30 million undocumented people from this country. | ||
| That will require... | ||
| A redeployment of federal officers, the scale of which we have not seen in my lifetime, you know? | ||
| So I think there's also the truism of the Trump years, which is... | ||
| You know, there is a lot of talk that is very pitched, and it is intended to invoke fear, and oftentimes it's quite successful. | ||
| And it's not to minimize those affected by a 200-person ice raid in the city of Chicago. | ||
| But Donald Trump's ability to actually execute on the mass deportations he's promised is an open question. | ||
| And I think within that, there's a lot of opportunity for resistance, the kind of which you just outlined, Rachel. | ||
| Yeah, and I think he's also picking a fight. | ||
| I mean, I think that there's a reason. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Picking a fight. | ||
| Todd Benzman, he's very specific. | ||
| The mayor in Chicago has been adamant about being a sanctuary city. | ||
| President Trump, Tom Homan, and Stephen Miller are going to call his bluff in the first 24 hours. | ||
| Walk me through it. | ||
| Well, they're feuding. | ||
| The mayor of Chicago is saying out loud over and over again, we're going to protect criminal aliens from you. | ||
| We're going to preserve their presence among our people. | ||
| We're going to inflict them on our people. | ||
| And Homan's saying, yeah, well, we may just arrest you because that's a crime. | ||
| You can't get in the way of law enforcement operations. | ||
| And so it's tit for tat like that. | ||
| And Homan's saying, the first place I'm going to be on day one is Chicago. | ||
| Which is just sort of a way of telling them that, you know, we are going to overwhelm you. | ||
| We are not going to be dissuaded by your sanctuary policies, your criminal alien protection policies. | ||
| Because that's what it is. | ||
| Just so you know, sanctuary policy is primarily, the central pillar of it, is local law enforcement is not going to tell ICE. When a criminal alien is getting out of jail or prison so that they can come pick him up and deport him, which is outrageous. | ||
| I'll never understand how an elected official could choose that and say it out loud over and over again proudly. | ||
| We're going to inflict criminal... | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| Before we go to break, before we go to break, why should... | ||
| Just give it to me in 60 seconds. | ||
| We got a big country. | ||
| You got 12 to 15 million. | ||
| You know, you got the border states, you got Texas, Arizona. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You got New York City, you got San Francisco, LA. Why Chicago? | ||
| Chicago is just one of the, that's where you're going to see Holman probably, but they're hitting all of those at the same time. | ||
| You're going to see LA, you're going to see New York, Denver, probably Boston. | ||
| It's going to be a whole, it's not just 200 in Chicago. | ||
| It's going to be... | ||
| Hundreds more in all these other cities. | ||
| So they're going to be raids and roundups, and they're designed to be highly visible because messaging is important, regardless of how many they actually pick up. | ||
| And in fact, I'm thinking that most of those who are criminal aliens are on the run right now looking to hide from this. | ||
| But it doesn't matter how many ultimately they pick up because the raids matter to the rest of the world down trail. | ||
| When they start to close the border, they need people down there to stop in place, shelter in place, turn around and go home because of what they're seeing in Chicago. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
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Todd, I'm going to hold you through the break and get back to you. | |
| Todd Benzman is with us from CIS. Dave Bratt. | ||
| HomeTitleLock.com. | ||
| We need you at the Ramparts. | ||
| You did a great job last week in supporting the Cabinet nominees. | ||
| HomeTitleLock.com. | ||
| Check it out today. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Todd, look, here's where I got a problem. | ||
| I shouldn't say a problem. | ||
| I'll say an issue. | ||
| I want to bring up an issue for the audience. | ||
| Because you read the article in the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| It's leaked to Wall Street Journal. | ||
| It's for people familiar with the plan. | ||
| That would be, does it sound like administration people? | ||
| It could be people in the administrative state, one or the other. | ||
| What do you think happened here? | ||
| Do you think this leak came from President Trump and his team or as an administrative state? | ||
| And I keep telling folks, hey, President Trump, this is why it's not really, it's a celebratory mood in the city from MAGA. And now you've got hundreds of thousands of MAGA coming in with nothing to do. | ||
| That's another issue. | ||
| We've got the strongest MAGA guys. | ||
| Here's what's breaking my heart. | ||
| These people are spending their vacation money for the year to come here. | ||
| And where you should know, And I'm going to work over the weekend with Rob Sig and Jack Posobiec. | ||
| We're going to figure out something to have a participatory somehow. | ||
| We've got to do something, so we'll figure it out. | ||
| But there's not open arms. | ||
| This city is quite sullen. | ||
| It's not just the cold weather. | ||
| It's gray every day and foggy. | ||
| It's not simply the weather. | ||
| The administrative state is sullen. | ||
| There was a leak last night, and it was not true, that, hey, the thing may be moved to the White House. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| I think it was up on Gateway Pundit because... | ||
| The local police were not working. | ||
| That was fake news. | ||
| However, they're not welcoming here with open arms President Trump. | ||
| It's a very sullen city, the imperial capital, because they heard the words of Marco Rubio on Tuesday. | ||
| Marco says, we're done. | ||
| We're out of this empire building. | ||
| It's done. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| The forever wars are over. | ||
| They're done. | ||
| This is no longer going to be the central headquarters of the post-war international rules-based order. | ||
| It's going to be different. | ||
| It's going to work for the American people. | ||
| And so this entire apparatus that has been built for 60 and 70 years in the boutiques and the homes and you come here, it's like Paris. | ||
| It's not like Paris. | ||
| Well, the layout is like Paris and you're going to join. | ||
| It ain't like Paris that the folks, the working class in the war room posse, you can't come because you can't get into the boutiques, you can't get into the restaurants. | ||
| But they treat Trump and his people like that, the senior people. | ||
| They're not happy we won. | ||
| Did you notice that? | ||
| Have you noticed that? | ||
| Have you noticed, you know, Rachel and these guys are not static. | ||
| They got the long face, the sad face. | ||
| As Biden finishes with a whimper, and they're doing everything possible to stop President Trump in his first hundred days, to put up every barricade, chop block, do everything, every sneaky thing, over and over. | ||
| They're not here welcoming us. | ||
| So the leak could have come from the administration of the state, or could have come from people in the administration to give them a heads up. | ||
| But whatever's happening, Todd Benzman, they're going to Chicago for a reason. | ||
| And this reason, I think... | ||
| In my own simple mind, that's that big-mouthed mayor that is thrown down and said, Trump, I don't care what you did. | ||
| I'm the mayor. | ||
| I'm the king of Chicago. | ||
| I'm a sanctuary city. | ||
| You know, come and get it. | ||
| And Trump's sending Holman out there to say, go get it. | ||
| I'm president of these United States, and he's the mayor of Chicago. | ||
| We're going to have a showdown right now and a throwdown. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Well, the context is, you know, look at New York, Eric Adams. | ||
| You know, he's capitulating on protecting illegal criminal aliens on that issue. | ||
| They're having, you know, nice talks and they're all, you know, friendly to each other. | ||
| And same thing is happening in some of the other major blue sanctuary cities. | ||
| There's this threat about we're going to pull grant money, federal grant money. | ||
| There's threats of arrests, of officials, sitting officials. | ||
| And here you've got this one mayor in Chicago who's defiant, a defiant rebel holdout. | ||
| And I think maybe part of the reason why Homan promised out loud a couple weeks ago, on day one, I'm going to be in Chicago. | ||
| You can count on it, and if you don't like it, come and get me. | ||
| I think that's partly to sort of get the rest of them in line to make an example to overcome. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| And by the way, Pritzker's even, the governor, is starting to make conciliatory sounds, although he's still kind of holdout-ish as well, but he is making some conciliatory noises. | ||
| Well, he's running for president. | ||
| Hold it, hang on. | ||
| He's running for president in 2028, Pritzker is, 100%. | ||
| So he's definitely, he sees where the country is. | ||
| Right before I let you go, Todd, and I want everybody to go to your writings, because you're reporting on this for the last four years. | ||
| It's one of the reasons we won. | ||
| I hear this phrase over and over again. | ||
| Illegal criminal alien. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I got it. | ||
| The interpretation of those guys, serious crime, the Lake and Riley thing, others. | ||
| But to me, everybody across that border is an illegal criminal alien. | ||
| And they all got to go. | ||
| I know we're starting with the bad guys. | ||
| And I realize that maybe, you know, Murdoch's putting out polls in the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| Oh, we want MAGA light. | ||
| No, Murdoch, you gun-decked. | ||
| You didn't ask MAGA. You certainly didn't ask Republicans. | ||
| We ain't looking for light. | ||
| We're looking for heavy. | ||
| Understand what the Wall Street Journal wants. | ||
| Understand what the neocon, neoliberal apparatus, the Washington Census wants. | ||
| That's not what we want. | ||
| Whatever the Wall Street Journal wants, we want the opposite. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| We'll keep it simple. | ||
| Todd, before we let you go, what's your thoughts on that? | ||
| Is it going to stop? | ||
| And by the way, just to get the criminal aliens out, the bad guys, is going to be a Herculean effort. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| But is that where this stops, sir? | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| They are going to be going after, as well, illegal aliens who have removal orders on them. | ||
| And there are a lot of them. | ||
| 1.4 million at least. | ||
| And they know where they are. | ||
| Most of them, they have horses and all the rest. | ||
| Criminal aliens and the ones that are allowed to walk around with removal orders on them. | ||
| They'll be going after them. | ||
| The criminal aliens are probably running and hiding right now, by the way. | ||
| So I'm going to manage expectations down a little bit. | ||
| That's maybe a problem with leaking things. | ||
| But it's just the opening. | ||
| There's going to be rolling raids that just go on for the next four years. | ||
| Ice is unchained now. | ||
| And one other last thing, if I can just mention about Chicago. | ||
| I just came back from Chicago. | ||
| I was there for a week writing about the very first terror attack, legally charged terror attack against an illegal immigrant. | ||
| And you'll hear Homan talk a lot about this is a national security threat. | ||
| We've got to roll up these national security threats, special interest aliens. | ||
| That guy was a Mauritanian. | ||
| Attack the Jewish community there. | ||
| And don't be surprised if you hear a lot about that as well. | ||
| Justifications for this. | ||
| Where do people over the weekend keep up with you on social media? | ||
| Where do they get your writings? | ||
| Yeah, I'm at BenzmanTodd on X. I'm on TruthSocial, Getter, ToddBenzman.com. | ||
| I work for CIS, Center for Immigration Studies, and all my work is there too. | ||
| You're magnificent, brother. | ||
| Thank you for doing this on a Saturday morning. | ||
| Todd Benzman. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| One of the greats. | ||
| Okay, the right stuff. | ||
| That's what this audience has, the right stuff. | ||
| That's how you turfed out Biden and broke the oligarchs. | ||
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