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Episode 4164: Terror Attacks Prove Neglect Inside FBI
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jonathan lemire
Second chart where you highlight how the border and climate change were major issues in the year that was.
unidentified
Yes, that's exactly right, of course, Jonathan.
The border was not Biden's finest moment, frankly.
You can see what happened here.
And Trump is not wrong when he talks about how border crossings were quite low.
They were running about 74,000 a month when he left office.
And they, in fact, did shoot up Some of it was some things Biden said and some ways that they put a moratorium, for example, on deportations.
But in fact, we did get up here almost to 300,000 a month.
But what maybe people don't entirely know is that border crossings have come back down almost to where they were under Trump.
They're running at about 100,000 at the moment.
So we went up the hill and we went down the hill.
But unfortunately, that was pretty costly to Biden during the election.
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joe biden
Here's what we know so far.
The FBI has reported to me the killer was an American citizen, born in Texas.
He served in the United States Army on active duty for many years.
He also served in the Army Reserve until a few years ago.
The FBI also reported to me that mere hours before the attack, he posted videos on social media indicating that it was inspired by ISIS, expressing a desire to kill, desire to kill.
The ISIS flag was found in his vehicle, which he rented to conduct this attack.
Possible explosives were found in the vehicle as well.
And more explosives were found nearby.
unidentified
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
unidentified
I know you don't like hearing that.
steve bannon
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
joe biden
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Baff.
War Room.
steve bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Baff.
Happy New Year.
We had a very different show planned for today, but of course, not simply events, but the underpinnings of those events and what it means to the takeover we're going to have of the United States government in, what, 19 days, 18 days on the 20th?
And I'm not sure...
How do I say this politely?
I'm not sure people understand the depth and the seriousness of what we're stepping into.
And I don't mean this audience.
This audience understands.
And our guest...
We've packed this show today with heavy hitters.
Colonel Derek Harvey, Colonel John Mills, Ezra Cohen joins us.
Jack Posobiec is going to be later.
Natalie, we've got Oscar Blue Ramirez and Ben from the border.
And much more, Julie Kelly.
President Trump coming to Washington.
On the weekend, I guess the 18th and 19th, and then the inauguration will be on Martin Luther King Day the 20th.
Is about the equivalent of Lincoln coming to Washington after he won and coming when Lincoln actually had to be snuck into the city in the middle of the night to go to the Willard Hotel, the famous Willard Hotel, where we did our broadcast on election night.
And one of the reasons was because of that.
That's where President Lincoln came at first because he had to be snuck into the city because the city was besieged.
In the city, what they found out immediately was that the Southerners in Buchanan's administration had really stacked the various departments with Southerners, with people that were empathetic to the Southern cause of independence.
And it made Lincoln's first six months Absolutely, he had to thread the needle.
And if you go back and say the history of that, President Trump is coming into a Capitol that is not there to welcome him with open arms.
There's a very sullen attitude in Washington, D.C. among the administrative state and the deep state apparatus.
They fully understand what we intend to do in the takedown of the deep state and the takedown of the administrative state.
They're just not going to sit there and roll over.
They control right now Regardless of what elections say, they control the most powerful nation in the history of the earth.
Let me repeat that.
They control the most powerful nation in the history of the earth.
They have an apparatus that is built up over, I don't know, 50, 60, 70, 80 plus years.
That controls the direction of this republic.
And they're not prepared.
they don't really care about Donald John Trump putting his hand on a King James Bible and swearing an oath to heaven that he will support, defend, and execute the Constitution of the United States.
We live in post-Constitution America.
We live in an America that is run by a cold-blooded regime.
And I say they're the primal scream of a dying regime.
Well, the only way it's going to be dying is you've got to put the stake in the heart of the beast.
So, I realize people want to celebrate, and I can understand it's a natural human thing, but we're at war.
You're either at war or you're not at war.
If you're at war, there's no time for celebration.
There'll be celebration after the victory, but we don't have a victory right now.
And I don't think some people comprehend that.
We're not at victory.
We're in this fight.
I don't want to say the top of the first inning, but we're in the early innings.
There's a long way to go.
And it is not foretold that we're going to win.
I strongly believe we're going to win.
I know if the American people and the citizens of this movement are completely focused and work as hard and are as unrelenting and unyielding as we have been, we will win.
The outcome is...
I can see the sunlit uplands, but man, there are going to be a lot of dark days between now and then, and there are going to be days when it looks like we're not winning at all.
I think we need a renewal of seriousness of purpose.
I think there's way too much giddiness.
I think there's way too much frivolity.
I think there's way too much kidding oneself about the task ahead.
We don't care ourselves here at the War Room.
We understand exactly what we're up against.
And one of the reasons is because we work with people who are just as serious.
These are people that have dedicated their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor To restore this to a constitutional republic, what our forefathers and mothers fought for and died for and sacrificed for.
It's very simple.
If you're not with that program, you're not going to win.
You may win some elections.
You may win some elections.
Haven't you won elections in the past?
Hasn't a lot of that just been performative?
Haven't you just been tapped along?
Do you think we got here to this?
Do you think we got to New Year's Day yesterday because the Republicans won some elections?
I don't know whether it was a PSYOP or not, but I will tell you, the rot and the...
And the crisis we have in a very deep level in our institutions, in our institutions, what have I said from day one when we're on the election?
You must seize the institutions.
unidentified
You must seize the institutions.
steve bannon
Right now, put up last night, Kash Patel should be, the hearing for Kash Patel should be on Tuesday.
President Trump certified on Monday.
And we're going to do the speaker vote on Friday, and the speaker votes on another whole thing.
Right?
It's another whole deal.
But let's say you have the Speaker vote, President Trump certified on Monday.
Cash Patel should be before the committee on Tuesday.
And look, I respect Senator Grassley tremendously, but he's got some rule like 28 days after it's submitted.
But they've come after Cash, hammer and tong, and I think Cash's paperwork took some while to get in because Cash wanted to be very thorough.
We can't just go by the 28-day rule.
Cash Patel's hearing should start on Tuesday.
And so at like two minutes after President Trump is sworn in, Kash Patel is sworn in as director of the FBI. And we get to work.
President Trump's got a screed out or something on True Social talking about this and that.
It's all true.
Scum and the thing.
And if we can get it up, he talks about the CIA. The CIA, Mr. President, is part of the problem.
It's a serious part of the problem.
And no, we don't want the CIA involved in anything domestically.
They're involved too much domestically anyway as is.
Let me repeat this.
The CIA is a central part of the problem.
And I have tremendous respect for John Ratcliffe.
I would like to see a deputy that I think had, like Fox Kennedy, that had a real feel for the CIA. And why is that?
Kash Patel, the head of the FBI, you're starting to feel good that that American Gestapo will be deconstructed and put on the right track and get focused on what they should be focused on, not jackbooting people praying the rosary in front of abortion centers and now they're rotting in federal prisons because the big shots at the FBI, all manly on their TV shows, FBI kicking down doors, kicking down doors of folks going to school board meetings.
Were they kicking down any doors of jihadists now?
Oh my gosh, the FBI got there ten minutes after the news media yesterday.
The FBI is a total and complete joke, and Ray, you're going to be investigated, brother, and you're going to be brought up on charges, and you're going to pay for what you've done over the last four years.
But Mr. President, the CIA, I think maybe, I don't know, allowed to the tenth power worse.
Not only did they get everything wrong, they're working against The interest of folks here in the United States of America.
And the last thing we want is a CIA involved in anything domestically.
They're involved in too much domestically right now.
So we're going to get this all in today, along with a couple of rants.
I don't know how I'm going to do it, but somehow we're going to do it.
Ezra Cohen is with us.
Colonel Harvey, Derek Harvey, Colonel John Mills.
We've got Todd Benzman.
It's nothing but hitters all day long.
We must understand what actually the objective is.
The objective is to seize the institution in the imperial capital of Washington, D.C. And everybody here that thinks it's going to be some big celebration or party does not fully understand the task ahead of us.
No.
November 5th is just a, yes, a monumental victory.
But we are so far from winning And we have an opponent.
They get a vote.
The enemy gets a vote here.
Don't think they get a vote?
Did you have a good New Year's Day?
How did that Notre Dame-Georgia game turn out?
Oh, that's right.
We had to postpone it.
You must understand the signal, not the noise.
It's going to be all signal today in the War Room.
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Till he's Could you be a fear?
Could it be true that It seems as though there's a new security threat environment out there.
Not necessarily because ISIS is involved, but because of the prospect of copycat attacks.
It does seem as though there's a new security environment out there.
We've got the inauguration approaching.
I heard this morning there's a rally that President-elect Trump is planning to have before the inauguration, and then of course we have the Super Bowl a few weeks after that, which to me suggests That the present-elect should consider asking the current FBI Director, Chris Wray, to stay on and not leave on January 20. Stay on through the inauguration.
Stay on through the Super Bowl, which itself is a huge security environment.
This is not the time to see our FBI Director walking out the door in 18 days.
jonathan lemire
Following up on that briefly, so, I mean, Trump and Christopher Wray, of course, Trump is very critical of Wray, and months before was saying that he would fire Wray if he stayed on.
His replacement, Kash Patel, his confirmation hearing not yet been scheduled, but there's a suggestion that it would probably fall into February because Attorney General Pam Bondi would have to have hers first.
So you're concerned there about perhaps a gap in security.
Are you also concerned about Kash Patel's ability to lead that to agency?
unidentified
Well, put that aside, you know, what I've heard is that the Director Wray is planning to leave on January 20. That would mean there'd be an acting director in place.
This is not a moment where you should have that kind of transition, where the director who's been there for seven years is walking out the door.
A new director's got to come in, orientation briefings and so forth.
I think through this period, over the next several weeks, there needs to be some continuity in the leadership of the nation's premier law enforcement agency.
steve bannon
So the guy's been there for seven years, and you see what's happened.
Seven years, he's done such an amazing job.
Let's keep him longer.
This is how the apparatus works.
See, they run up the flagpole in the morning, Joe, and now you're going to hear a fire.
Oh, yeah, you've got to keep Ray on because you need continuity.
You need continuity.
Just like President Lincoln came into a hostile environment, because Washington, D.C. was a southern city.
D.C. was a southern city.
The apparatus, the levers of power in the government in 1860, or in the spring of 1861, was hostile to President Lincoln.
He was besieged.
Absolutely besieged.
Had to be snuck in the middle of the night.
President Trump and the team must understand you're coming into an imperial capital where they view you as a hostile enemy.
You either believe we're at war with enemies within and without, or you don't.
If you don't, that's fine.
But if you don't, you're going to get crushed, and nothing you want to accomplish is going to get accomplished.
Full stop.
Of that, there is no argument.
There's no debate.
You see right there.
unidentified
Oh, Kash Patel, I think Kash Patel's going to be, isn't it going to be February, Jonathan?
steve bannon
Yeah, I think it's going to be February.
Yeah, it's going to be February.
Maybe March.
Ezra Cohen, you've seen Inside the Belly of the Beast.
Am I too far off here, sir?
unidentified
Not at all, Steve.
I mean, it's just unbelievable to see Jay Johnson saying that.
I mean, first of all, one, he doesn't trust the career deputy director of the FBI. I mean, that says a lot about his faith in the institution.
But look, I'll just say this.
The number one thing that President Trump can do to increase the security of the United States is to eliminate the distractions on day one.
Whether it's the CIA, which is focused on making a criminal referral against the president to kick off the first impeachment, or trying to buy the mythical compromise tape from the Russians in Berlin, or the FBI going after Americans who protested.
We have security institutions that are extremely distracted right now.
And that means that they're not focused on the things that are trying to cause harm to the United States, such as ISIS or the Muslim Brotherhood or the Chinese Communist Party, which has teams inside the US now doing advanced work to conduct sabotage and espionage against the United States and our economy.
Every time the institutions, these things that we need to reform are focused on something else, we're pulling them off the target that actually does matter to the security of the United States.
And so again, President Trump needs to eliminate the distractions on day one.
steve bannon
Ezra, just as your bona fides, Ezra was the most senior intelligence official in President Trump's first term that actually not only had President Trump's back, but actually understood the depth of the problem we have.
Where we are now, folks, pales in comparison.
To what Frank Church and those guys back in the 70s, when they looked at the FBI and the CIA, that is nothing compared to what we have right now.
Because now they've had 40 or 50 years to basically get institutionally smarter.
They are dug in.
The CIA and the FBI are dug in, and they're dug in in basically every parts of the apparatus.
And hey, they ain't going to be dug out by you sitting there and signing an executive order.
Signing an executive order or going out and putting out True Social or War Room Steve Bannon screaming into a microphone is not going to do this.
Ezra, give me a sense of the depth of the problem.
You knew how bad it was in the first term.
And as Ezra just said, it was the CIA that initiated the impeachment of President Trump about the Ukraine.
All of it.
They initiated it.
Now they've had four years of, and Biden is obviously a puppet.
Now that's all been publicly exposed.
We've been harping on from day one.
Why did we say it was illegitimate?
Because it was installed by the FBI, the CIA, and others.
This is so obvious, not a question.
And now the American people are starting to believe it.
But it's one thing to have these scales come off your eyes and start to awaken to it.
It's another to have an action plan that's executed upon every day.
Because these people are not going to be dug out.
They're trenching tools, not going to dig them out.
Ezra Cohen, your thoughts?
unidentified
Yeah, look, after 9-11, and I think you're absolutely right about where we are compared to the church era.
After 9-11, we dumped hundreds of billions of dollars into the FBI, the CIA, supposedly to counter terrorism.
Where has that money gone?
I mean, the results just aren't there.
We're actually less secure than we were.
We use those events to justify encroaching on American civil liberties.
Where has that gotten us?
We just had a horrible attack over the weekend from somebody who seems like may have been acting as part of a cell.
We didn't catch it.
And so I think what we need to do, Steve, is on day one, the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security need to sit down.
They need to go back to the drawing board with the director of the FBI, which is gonna be Kash Patel.
And they need to actually say, what are the essential missions of this organization?
What do we really need federal law enforcement and federal security services to be doing to protect the United States?
One of the core missions of the FBI is No, no, no, no.
steve bannon
No.
You have to do it.
You have to do it.
FBI, this is my whole point about breaking it up.
And this is why cash is perfect.
Counterintelligence, counterterrorism, counterintel, and intel all have to be separated into a separate law.
No, that has to happen.
Ezra, hang on for a second.
Colonel Harvey, and I got Mills on deck.
Harvey.
One of the issues here is that the apparatus thinks that the MAGA base is the problem.
They think they're a collection of radicalized white nationalists, white separatists.
I don't know what dream they've concocted, but that's the problem Ray's been focused on.
And this wasn't, you know, we had a Green Beret drive a Tesla in front of President Trump's hotel and try to blow that up.
Right?
This was a coordinated...
This was...
It's just not random.
Are you expecting me to believe you hit that the thing in New Orleans is totally unrelated to the terrorist attack by a Green Beret after you have a staff sergeant, a tech sergeant do it in New Orleans, and then you have a Green Beret do it in Las Vegas?
Colonel Harvey.
derek harvey
Well, Steve, good point.
I would agree with Ezra and you that you do not want to continue any of the leadership of the intelligence agencies or the FBI because they have not been competent.
Why would you continue people who have not been competent?
I think that's the most important thing.
Continuity doesn't matter if you have people that are oppositional and also not competent, and their record shows this lack of competency.
Number two is, when we look at what the FBI and the IC have been doing, they've been focused on the wrong targets, and we've got sophisticated networks coordinated by the Muslim Brotherhood, financed by Qatar and other outside entities, influencing mosques.
Recruiting and placing imams that are denying the legitimacy of the U.S. Constitution and indoctrinating people into hating the Constitution and hating America.
And these are the same people that Clapper and Director Wray and others have brought in, whether it's from CARE, Muslim Brotherhood, other organizations like the North American Islamic Trust or others, that are anti-American at their core.
And they're being used and they've influenced Our intel organizations and our FBI. And we have a lack of knowledge, deep knowledge and understanding about the domestic threats.
And as Ezra said, we need to focus on counterintelligence domestically.
But we've also got to focus on understanding the nature of this threat.
If you don't consider the Muslim Brotherhood to be a threat organization, and you call it a moderate, secular organization, and you put them in charge of- Terrorist organization.
Right.
unidentified
It's a terrorist organization.
steve bannon
Hang on, Colonel Harvey.
unidentified
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon
Slow down.
We're going to get all to it.
I've got to take a break.
Just hang on.
My first two guests were not randomly chosen.
These were the two patriots, Ezra Cohen and Colonel Derek Harvey.
Along with one of the greatest patriots in this country's history, Sergeant Higgins, who is now not with us, who tried in the first term in the early days to warn everybody, hey, You don't understand the depth of the problem we have with the deep state.
You do not understand how embedded this is.
You do not understand how its number one target is not the enemies of this republic.
That they view President Trump in the MAGA movement.
Then in its very beginnings, in early January and February 2017, the deep state said, we've identified the enemy.
It's Trump and his people.
And we're going to get them.
It was Ezra Cohen and Colonel Harvey with Sergeant Higgins that brought that up and were relentless in pursuing it.
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I think I see pattern recognition there.
I'm going to give you some more pattern recognition.
My first two guests today are two of the greatest warriors we had in President Trump's first term, along with another who passed away in the interim, and that would be Sergeant Rich Higgins, who is an American hero.
Sergeant Higgins wrote a memo that laid it all out.
Cohen, I'm going to start with you and get Derek back in here in a second, but the reason I want to do this is that it's not only not changed, it's gotten worse.
And I'm not quite sure that everybody on our team understands the depth of the problem.
And with everything else we have to do, number one, stopping the early parts of the kinetic part of the Third World War, which now in Ukraine gets worse every day, and Israel's getting worse every day.
Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a terrorist organization, not some moderate political group running hospitals in the Middle East, but a group that is sworn to have the destruction of the West and runs Turkey with Erdogan.
You see the rise of the Ottoman Empire.
They want to have the return of the caliphate.
They want to control the two holy sites.
Israel's just going to get in the way.
This thing's going to be a mess, okay?
I don't think, folks, and the financial situation, the financial crisis, Yellen gives us a letter, oh, we got to start emergency measures on the 13th.
And then, of course, the deportation of, I don't know, 15 million people.
You think that's going to be easy, folks?
You think they're just going to get a bus ticket here?
Go back.
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Thanks.
I'm glad you enjoyed your stay here.
See you later.
Hope it works out for you.
You think that's going to happen?
Do you think that's going to happen?
At the same time, we got, you know, every tech bro in the world wants the entire world to come here because they're better trained, better motivated, harder working, and smarter than American citizens.
Yep, that's what we got to do.
We got to have that solution.
That's a solution.
But on top of all this, we have a structural and institutional issue.
This is why my mantra has been seize the institutions, seize the institutions, seize the institutions.
And seizing the institutions is not going to be some cocktail party.
They're dug in and dug in deep and they're not prepared to give it up.
Why are they not prepared to give it up?
Because they're in control of the deal.
Do you think for a second November 5th matters to them?
Yeah, it's going to be a problem.
They've got to get some lawyers.
They'll deal with it.
You know, people come in there and we'll send some strongly worded letters and there'll be an investigation or two.
They're just going to wait you out.
Ezra, you and Colonel Harvey and a couple others, maybe I can't name it this time, along with Sergeant Rich Higgins, these patriots, you guys put your career, I saw it.
I saw men step forward and put their careers on the line, put their livelihoods on the line, put their reputations on the line, and they were fought every day.
Every single day they were fought by the deep state.
And you know what ended up happening?
The deep state impeached Trump.
If you don't understand the first impeachment, this is what it was totally 100% about.
The Central Intelligence Agency, the apparatus that runs the FBI, runs the Defense Department, and hey, oh, Bannon's crazy.
We can show you chapter and verse.
Higgins gave a memo in April of 17 that gave names, named the names.
You think Kash Patel's books got names?
Higgins named them.
And by the way, the guys that led the impeachment were the top of the list two years later.
Cohen, your thoughts?
unidentified
Yeah, Steve, just two things I want to respond to from what you just said.
First of all, in terms of why it's worse, and you're absolutely right, look, the people that did all of the intelligence abuses, the abuse of the FISA system, 702 abuse, all of the leaking against us, all of the criminal referrals that came out of CIA against President Trump to kick off the first impeachment, these people have been promoted.
Okay?
And so what we're dealing with now is all those people that did these things that are just totally inappropriate for a civil servant to be doing, for a servant of the country to be doing, they've been rewarded.
And look, you see that when you have the special agent in charge in New Orleans who can't even say that this was a terrorist attack.
If you can't utter that this was a terrorist attack, if we're promoting people like that, how are we going to stop the threat?
The second thing I just want to come back to what you said about seizing the institution.
I think it's something we didn't get right last time.
Again, who was the CIA director when the CIA attempted to buy the mythical compromise tape on President Trump in Berlin?
It was Mike Pompeo.
And our appointees were in place nominally, but they never took control of the organization.
And that's something that frankly we need to learn from the Democrats.
The Democrats have figured out how to do that.
We have not.
And that's a huge threat.
steve bannon
Colonel Harvey, by the way, Mike wanted out of the CIA months after being there.
I know there's not a lot of Mike Pompeo fans on here, but he did get the understanding.
I think he realized personally he couldn't make a change.
Couldn't change it.
That's what has to be changed now.
You have to go in with a blowtorch and blowtorch it.
John Ratcliffe, you're a good man.
I hope you're up to the task, and that's why you need a deputy that is an absolute hammer.
Not the guys you're walking around with.
You need a hammer.
You need a hammer.
Colonel Harvey, Higgins, I think, worked for you or worked with you.
Higgins was unceremoniously turfed out by McMasters as soon as McMasters got there.
The memo laid out exactly who the biggest problems were, and those are the guys at the end of the day that led the effort to impeach Trump.
Am I incorrect on that, sir?
derek harvey
No, you're absolutely correct.
Names that come to the top of the list that were identified early on that expressed specifically that they were going to be oppositional to the president's agenda.
One of them was Eric Chiaramella, who was the whistleblower in the first impeachment trial.
We could go down through that list.
I'm sure it's out there in books and things like that.
But, you know, I think I want to hit back on your point here.
You know, we need people to lead these organizations who understand the institutions but are not institutionalists, who are not going to be protective of the organizations that need deep reform.
And we need people who are going to go in there and be hard-nosed and will take risks to fight for the changes.
As Mr. Durham pointed out in his report about the Russia hoax and all of that, he pointed out that there are rules, there are executive orders, there are laws.
And he didn't make any recommendations for any changes to correct it because he said, what's the point when the laws, the executive orders, the regulations are not being followed and you have leaders at the FBI and CIA who were not following the law?
And so we need people who are going to go in there who are going to be hard-nosed about Enforcing the law and holding people accountable.
And the opposition is going to be deep from GG15s to senior executive service folks and even administrative assistants as we see them leak and obstruct.
steve bannon
So hold it.
So Flynn, on day two or three after he took over, I said, Mike, I want to go through the National Security Council because when I was in the Pentagon as a junior naval officer coming off sea duty, the NSC ran the deal, and I think they had 30 people, 25 people, and they were so powerful.
I could see from the Pentagon as a junior officer, I said, man, those guys run this thing.
And, of course, Cap Weinberg and those guys were bound and determined that wasn't going to happen.
They weren't going to have another Henry Kissinger or Zig Brzezinski that ran the deal from the White House.
When Mike brought the charts in, guys, it was like this thick.
I go, what the hell is this?
I said, how many guys did we actually get in?
He said, I don't know, 40 or 50?
I go, how many here?
I think the number he gave me was 292. I go, well, who are all these other people?
He go, oh, they're all seconded from the other departments.
I go, what are you talking about?
He says, yeah, they all second the guys over there.
I said, well, how many are they?
He says, oh, over 200. I said, we've got to get these guys out of here right away.
They're Obama and Bush guys.
You've got to get them out.
This was the whole purpose of the memo.
Right now, you're walking into a situation where the apparatus actually, not Trump's team, the apparatus runs the National Security Council.
Ezra, give me a minute on that, and then we'll come back to Harvey.
Because this was the beating heart of the problem in the early days, is that the administrative state and its rogue element, the deep state, are embedded, even when you win an election and come in, Yeah, and Steve, it's actually, it's not just that the IC controls it, it's which parts of the IC, right?
unidentified
If you look at it, there's an inordinate number of detailees from CIA at the NSC. It's very smart of them, by the way.
That's how they, you know, control policy, is by putting their people, and this becomes this self-licking ice cream cone.
Look, You've got to have some detailles from the departments.
You need that regional expertise.
But it's got to be way less.
And frankly, we've got to make sure that it's much more spread out so that not any one agency, which is supposed to be overseen by the NSC, ends up actually controlling the oversight, if that makes sense.
steve bannon
That totally makes sense.
Colonel Harvey, these detailees, I'm a 100% guy.
I realize Ezra's a little more balanced here.
But of the detailees, Colonel Waltz, the Green Beret, is going to take over.
By the way, I'm just hearing a report that the Green Beret that tried to blow up Trump's hotel casino or hotel in Vegas is an active-duty Green Beret.
Let me repeat that.
This is an active-duty Green Beret.
What should happen with these detailees, Harvey?
We're fighting the same fight we fought in 17, but it's to the 10th power worse right now, sir.
derek harvey
One is I don't think that we need as many detailees as they currently have, and they're much more now than there were even when we went in and what we inherited from the Obama administration.
Number two is I would send a letter to all of the detailees specifically Maybe screen out a few, one or two here or there.
But I would send a letter telling them that they do not need to report for duty on January 20th, that they should report back to their home agency.
And in the next three or four weeks and going forward, what detailees are required should be screened and recruited by the new NSC leadership.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Guys, I got to bounce.
Colonel Harvey, where do people, we're going to get you back on, hopefully tomorrow, where do people get you in the interim?
derek harvey
At Truth Social, Derek Harvey, and then on the web, it's just DerekHarvey.org.
steve bannon
We're going to talk about this radical infiltration into the U.S. Army, the Defense Department, all of it.
We'll get to that tomorrow with Colonel Harvey.
Ezra, where do people go and get you, sir?
unidentified
It's at Ezra A. Cohen on Twitter, or X. Thank you, brother.
steve bannon
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Two patriots.
You know what I consider a patriot?
Somebody puts their career and their life on the line in defense of their country.
Those are two individuals who did it, and I saw it up close and personal.
I saw it.
I did not understand the depth of this problem when we first got to the White House the first time.
I did not.
I knew it was bad.
I didn't know how bad it was.
It was a hundred times worse than I thought.
And you had a couple of Patriots.
And the memory of Sergeant Rich Higgins should always be remembered.
And what he did.
Because they destroyed him.
Okay, short break.
Colonel Mills is going to talk about...
Breaking report.
If I just read this correctly.
This is an active duty Green Beret.
Two Army...
Two army personnel on terrorist attacks in the United States.
Think about that for a second.
Two people who signed up and served this country.
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Colonel Mills.
Breaking news.
There's just a block from the war room.
Up on 3rd and Northwest Washington, 3rd and Constitution, Capitol Hill police who control everything from 8th Street Inn is really not D.C. Metro.
It's really Capitol Hill police around the Capitol.
They're reporting a suspicious vehicle gets parked over there.
My point is all kinds of things are going to be happening over the next couple of days and weeks as people start to focus on this.
So it's happening around the nation's Capitol.
And I'm just reporting what they've just put out as a special alert.
Colonel John Mills, there's something very deep and dark going on.
It was not random what happened yesterday, folks.
Remember, there are no coincidences.
You had two Army personnel, a tech sergeant in New Orleans, and an active duty, I believe is being reported right now, Green Beret, in Las Vegas.
Has the U.S. Army...
I know it's been building for years.
Is there a subterranean level of being taken over by radical jihadists, sir?
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
Well, yes, this is the fruit of the indoctrination of DEI and CRT, which has been shown in study after study.
The more that that is hectored, the audience is hectored by that, Actually, the worse it becomes.
I mean, Rutgers just came out with a report on that.
So let's talk about Matthew Libelsberger first.
Also, apparently, Times of India is reporting that his wife was a very loud Trump hater.
She watches the Trump feed every morning just so she has the motivation to kill someone.
This is radicalization by the very forces saying they're trying to de-radicalize.
No, no, that's not what their intent is.
They're actually creating the problem that they say they're attempting to solve.
It started back in the 90s.
It was sensitivity training.
It was...
Safe spaces.
And then it got worse and worse and worse.
And under Bishop Garrison, the DEI czar under Austin, it just was hammering everybody, a white Christian male nationalist with guns.
That's the problem, which creates that hate and discontent, which they say they're trying to solve.
And that's So, I mean, it's been study after study.
The more this is hectored and hammered home, the worse it will become.
So, yes, we have a radicalization problem, all right, in the military, and it's being created by this DEI culture.
Now, it supposedly was dismantled earlier this year.
steve bannon
Colonel, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I know, we've got to get to the total dismantling.
Talk to me about the Houston area, though, in northern Mexico.
I'm going to have Benzman up here in a moment.
Why is it...
Interesting that the sergeant that did the New Orleans horrible situation.
If you want to see how horrible, go online and see about the victims.
Particularly the victims that didn't die instantly.
The ones that died instantly, which is incomprehensible what happened to them.
But the ones that didn't die instantly and had to suffer for hours before they died.
And the ones that still have critical injuries.
It's unbelievable what these people will do.
In delivering carnage.
So tell me about why should Houston in this northern Mexico area be of particular interest to us?
unidentified
Well, over a year ago, Steve, we talked about essentially the ungoverned space.
Ungoverned space is extremely dangerous.
It gives sanctuary.
Sanctuary to who?
Well, of course, the cartels, but they also have the Chinese special operators now running the cartels in northern Mexico, plus Iranian intelligence, plus ISIS. This is sanctuary for training, logistics, and intelligence.
And Houston is really, in many ways, a forward operating base for this dangerous threat to America.
So it's not just the invasion across the border.
It's the ungoverned space in northern Mexico, which is a mortal danger because that provides the keyword sanctuary for them to train, plan, and equip.
And it is going on.
And so there's these dots that need to be connected here because it looks like Sham Din Jabbar was down in the Houston area.
His mosque has now been referring any questions to CARE. So obviously they've chosen a nominal middle-of-the-road spokesperson in CARE. This is ridiculous.
steve bannon
No, hang on.
Hang on.
Colonel Harvey, I mean Colonel Bills, hang on.
I'm going to hold you through.
We've got Benzman, Poso, Natalie.
No, CARE has been designated a terrorist organization by the UAE. CARE is the front guy's.
Okay, we're going to take a short break.
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Right?
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unidentified
It's so logical.
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What a mess.
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Would you either believe we're at war with enemies foreign and domestic?
With enemies foreign and domestic?
What does the oath say?
From enemies foreign and domestic?
You either believe we are or you don't.
If you don't, don't have time for you.
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Of that, there is no doubt.
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