Dec. 31, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| Corner of this political smackdown is the guy you just saw, Steve Bannon. | ||
| He's aligned with the Laura Loomers of the world, and they insist that American jobs are for American workers, including these jobs. | ||
| In the other corner, the other MAGA titans, people like Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk, who at one time worked in this country on an H-1B visa. | ||
| They maintain that an American emphasis on their words, quote, mediocrity over excellence, end quote, has created a need for additional high-skilled labor. | ||
| And you can only get them from other countries, and for that you need these visas. | ||
| So Musk went so far as to call some Trump supporters, quote, contemptible fools, end quote, over the matter. | ||
| Things got so heated that Trump himself had to mediate. | ||
| He weighed in in the New York Post, saying that he, quote, has always liked these visas. | ||
| Whether it settles the issue or not, or whether this is even the visa that he thinks it is, is unclear, but it is a sign of what's to come. | ||
| David Brooks points out in the New York Times this quote, this is not a discreet one-off dispute. | ||
| This is the kind of core tension you get in your party when you do as Trump has done, taking a dynamic free market capitalist party and infused it with protective backward-looking reactionary philosophy. | ||
| We're going to see this kind of dispute also when it comes to economic regulation, trade, technology policy, labor policy, housing policy, and so on. | ||
| It's also where we start the hour, with some of our favorite experts and friends. | ||
| Former Chief Republican Strategist and Senior Advisor to the Lincoln Project, Stuart Stevens, is here. | ||
| Also joining us, Professor of History at New York University, Ruth Van Ghiat, is back. | ||
| And with me at the table for the hour, Distinguished Political Scholar, Professor at Princeton University, Eddie Glaude, is here. | ||
| Stuart Stevens, let me just start with the personalities. | ||
| Love him or loathe him. | ||
| Steve Bannon's the guy that went to jail for Donald Trump. | ||
| I would never bet against Steve Bannon. | ||
| I mean, just weigh in on the sort of brutality and the public nature of this very early, very vicious fight between Steve Bannon and Elon Musk. | ||
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Yeah, it's absolutely delicious to watch, and were it not so impactful for the future of the country, you could laugh at it. | |
| Bannon is a guy who has defined himself as a thug, and thugs must do thuggish things. | ||
| I think that Elon Musk has no idea what he's getting into when he gets in a fight with Steve Bannon over this. | ||
| And, you know, under all of this sort of—I suspect Bannon thinks about this— There's a very good chance, there's been a lot of reporting, that Elon Musk was not a student when he got a visa, and when he went through his process of becoming a naturalized citizen, that he put false information on that document. | ||
| If that's true, that is grounds for revoking the citizenship. | ||
| It happens all the time. | ||
| And under the Trump, that would mean deporting Musk and his children. | ||
| You know, you could make a case that one of the reasons Musk is so obsessed with immigration is because he knows this. | ||
| So, I think that in the heart and soul of MAGA out there, I'm with you. | ||
| I would not bet against Steve Bannon. | ||
| I want to deal with the substance of this, and I promise to do that, but because for Trump it's never about the substance, I want to stay with the leading men in Trump's life, with you, Stuart Stevens. | ||
| The idea that Elon Musk is the alpha only exists in a world where Trump can be bought. | ||
| And what's so amazing to me is that Trumpism has always been transactional for Trump, but we've never seen the public display of someone else getting to grift off Trump's presidency. | ||
| Elon Musk feels like the beta for that, right? | ||
| A real test case. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
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It's going to happen. | |
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's New Year's Eve on the 31st of December. | ||
| It's a Tuesday in the last day of 24. What a historic year, an amazing year. | ||
| We would normally be doing kind of our end of year show, kind of a special. | ||
| Tomorrow we'd be doing a special. | ||
| But, you know, the winds of change are blowing and they're blowing hard. | ||
| They're howling right now. | ||
| And there's 20 days until we take over the government, President Trump's administration. | ||
| We got a lot of work to do. | ||
| We got to sort some things out on our side of the football. | ||
| I'm calling for a total and complete moratorium on all immigration. | ||
| All of these programs are scams. | ||
| The student is a scam. | ||
| All of them are scams. | ||
| They're all in it to do one thing, to make sure they get more foreigners in this country to compete with you. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Whether it's your kids, whether, and this is keeping afloat, the elites in this country and the education thing, the education thing is a scam, the H-1B visa is a scam, they're all scams. | ||
| Scams. | ||
| It's got to be reviewed. | ||
| And it's got to be reviewed in a broad daylight. | ||
| Explain to the American people, we're trying not only to hide the football on three-card money, No, it's got to be explained. | ||
| American people have to buy in. | ||
| The citizens of this nation have to buy in to the immigration program because they're bearing the burden of it. | ||
| They're paying for it. | ||
| They're fighting and dying overseas for it. | ||
| Explain it to them. | ||
| Explain it to them. | ||
| They don't want to do it. | ||
| They want to hide behind everything. | ||
| High-skilled workers, you can't get enough. | ||
| You guys don't want to work. | ||
| What do Vivek say you're just mediocre? | ||
| You're just mediocre. | ||
| Jock culture's bad. | ||
| Prom queen's bad. | ||
| Jocks are bad. | ||
| As you get stuffed in the locker for the ninth time. | ||
| Now, Vivek, the way you stop that is you come out fighting and you start biting their fingers. | ||
| And so the next time they try to pick on you and they only got four digits, they'll think twice. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You can't outperform a spelling bee. | ||
| They ain't going to respect that. | ||
| Ben Burquam's been on this from day one. | ||
| Ben, get us up to speed. | ||
| You've put yourself, Oscar Blue Ramirez, your entire team, I don't know, four or five years. | ||
| We met you at the wall years and years ago back in 2019. We built the wall down there. | ||
| You were down there with us. | ||
| Rob Sig was down there with us. | ||
| Parker was just a young cub. | ||
| The SIGs did the streaming from there. | ||
| It was just magnificent. | ||
| The wall we built down there. | ||
| If you've ever seen Sicario, right in the heaviest sex and human trafficking and drug trafficking place right up that hill. | ||
| Burquam, you've been at this a long time, brother. | ||
| I just got to ask you, you know this. | ||
| You know the illegal side. | ||
| You guys have been in these camps. | ||
| You've been down. | ||
| You went through the Darien Gap. | ||
| You've been all over where reporters wouldn't go. | ||
| And BBC and these guys came years after you guys were down there. | ||
| What's your assessment of this debate we're having over the last couple of days, sir? | ||
| Yeah, I totally agree that we should have a moratorium on immigration in total until we stop the bleeding. | ||
| Our country is bleeding out. | ||
| It's like we chopped our leg off and we're talking about fixing the scab we have on our arm. | ||
| We've got to stop the bleeding. | ||
| And it's all tied together. | ||
| You mentioned all of these different visas. | ||
| Now, some of them may have been idealistic in their intent, But what they've become is a gaming of the system. | ||
| It's a way to bastardize immigration into America. | ||
| And all of these NGOs, they all know the games. | ||
| Every single one of them. | ||
| And when we're talking about whether it's H1B or any of these things, they're all gamed now. | ||
| You know, the asylum process. | ||
| My wife, and I'm a guy who has... | ||
| I have three children because my wife got to escape communism. | ||
| Her family got to come here from Laos. | ||
| But when they came, they had to be sponsored. | ||
| They had to not be a drain on our society. | ||
| They had to have families in America who said, we're gonna back these people up until they become Americans. | ||
| And now my wife's family are the most patriotic people I know. | ||
| My wife, I was there when she got her citizenship. | ||
| So there's a beauty of coming to America, but it has been so bastardized. | ||
| Intentionally, by the left, that it's unworkable at this point. | ||
| And so whether you're talking about the Darien Gap, we've gone through it four times. | ||
| You've got Catholic Charities. | ||
| I'm here in San Diego. | ||
| By the way, real quick, Steve, I just want to say this. | ||
| So I was just down on the border last night. | ||
| I got illegal aliens coming across, big groups of Chinese and Middle Easterners all day long. | ||
| We were out there at 9 o'clock last night, groups coming across. | ||
| We got CBP-1 still coming across. | ||
| I just want to show you this. | ||
| Behind me, and it's hard to see, this is one of the largest bum camps in America. | ||
| This place is massive. | ||
| They set this up. | ||
| San Diego set this up. | ||
| The same San Diego that is now a super sanctuary city. | ||
| All of that you see there is a homeless encampment that is right below the salt and the wound pissing on our veterans. | ||
| It's right below the veterans hospital. | ||
| So we're taking Billions of dollars of our tax dollars and keeping people homeless. | ||
| Every single street here, San Diego used to be a beautiful city, is just full of homelessness, full of drug addicts. | ||
| They're not doing anything to fix that. | ||
| Gavin Newsom and the Democrats have wasted all that money. | ||
| And while they're doing that, they're inviting in the largest invasion in the history of our country. | ||
| And the last thing I want to hear from Republicans. | ||
| It's the same thing we've heard from the rhinos for 20 years. | ||
| We need to do the DACA. We need to do the H-1B. We need to do this thing. | ||
| And then we'll deal with the bleeding out. | ||
| No, you deal with the bleeding out. | ||
| We are bleeding out as a nation. | ||
| Stop it all. | ||
| Prosecute, investigate and prosecute the people that have been behind this invasion, defund all of these NGOs, defund the United Nations, defund OIM, defund the UNHCR, any single person that has been involved with this, and investigate every politician in America that has supported this invasion and prosecute the ones that have been co-opted by the cartels. | ||
| That should be our focus. | ||
| Stop it all, investigate, prosecute, stop the bleeding, and save America. | ||
| I don't want to hear anything about increasing immigration, about some of these programs are good or bad. | ||
| We're dying. | ||
| We're dying as a nation. | ||
| We have to stop. | ||
| I mean, unless you want us to die. | ||
| Well, I think they want American citizens to die. | ||
| That's the point of it. | ||
| Ben, I know you've done a great job in the reporting. | ||
| I think shocked people that Biden, although the Democratic Party got blown out, they're down there with the CP1 app and they got this app going. | ||
| Axios, Mike Allen and the team are reporting this morning at Axios, which is kind of the inside baseball of the Washington Consensus. | ||
| That Biden and these guys have had these judges, these courts going 24-7 to try to get as many, once they're here, to try to get these asylum courts. | ||
| Tell us about that for a second, because the Axios story is blowing up right now. | ||
| Yeah, well, and it's actually what they did when they first came into office. | ||
| They dismissed these cases, and what that means is they basically said, well, these people can stay, and now you have a pathway to citizenship. | ||
| You can now apply for citizenship, and that's what they're trying to do. | ||
| In the last minute, in the ninth inning, the last hour, these guys are trying to get the immigration judges to dismiss all of these cases, which basically allows all of these illegals to stay in our country. | ||
| And that's what we're seeing across the country. | ||
| They're going to try to get as many of these dismissed so that way they can't, President Trump can't say they're illegal. | ||
| And knowing full well that they're all illegal. | ||
| I mean, in the first couple years we heard that they dismissed over a million cases. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than that in these last few months. | ||
| And I got it balanced, but you're reporting last night that in San Diego on the other side of the border they're coming through, Chinese, Middle Eastern, all of it, they're still being waved in? | ||
| Steve, it is absolutely disgusting. | ||
| A mile, not even a mile, a hundred yards from where the CBP-1 buses were loading. | ||
| I couldn't believe it. | ||
| At 9 o'clock last night, CBP-1 buses, the Jewish Family Services, is there picking them up. | ||
| A hundred yards away, you got Chinese and Middle Easterners still coming across and getting... | ||
| You gotta see the video, Steve. | ||
| Not only are they getting concierge service, we wasted an entire van on... | ||
| We're transporting their bags so that we don't lose any of their baggage. | ||
| These illegals are invading our country. | ||
| We should be turning their ass around and sending them back immediately. | ||
| We're inviting them in today, right now. | ||
| With concierge service. | ||
| Ben, real quickly, where do people go to get all your content over the next couple days till we have you back on on Thursday? | ||
| At Ben Berquam on all social media, Frontline America, Substack, FrontlineAmerica.com, and AmericasVoice.News. | ||
| Our new episode of Law& Border, our new season, will be coming out first of the year. | ||
| AmericasVoice.News is the only place to get it. | ||
| Happy New Year, brother. | ||
| Make sure Oscar... | ||
| Blue Ramirez gets a Happy New Year. | ||
| God bless you too, sir. | ||
| That is a brave man right there. | ||
| That guy's put more on the line. | ||
| He and Oscar Blue, the entire investigative team, has just been absolutely incredible. | ||
| Okay, we're going to leave you with the Dublin Girls Choir. | ||
| Okay, we're going to bring that up for a second. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Lovely voices. | ||
| Over my yelling and screaming. | ||
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You see, there are the Irish that have the beautiful voices here right there. | |
| Short break. | ||
| Baccio joins us on the other side. | ||
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Here's your host, host Stephen K. Babb. | |
| So we got, I think, Congressman Sparks is going to try and jurist their There is this huge deal about the speaker's race. | ||
| Obviously, we'll be nonstop on that on Thursday and Friday. | ||
| There is a lot of stuff going on right now. | ||
| President Trump has endorsed Speaker Johnson, and Elon came out and supported us on Newsmax last night, Speaker Johnson. | ||
| We're going to talk a lot about that. | ||
| Hopefully, Congressman Sparks can join us. | ||
| Also, all kind of stuff going on on the debt. | ||
| We finish now the sixth free installment of the end of the dollar empire, birchgold.com. | ||
| So here, if you can just download it, you got a couple days. | ||
| You know, we got a special on tomorrow. | ||
| I'll be on. | ||
| In fact, Ben will join me. | ||
| Joe Allen will join me. | ||
| Sir Rahim will join me for the New Year's Day special. | ||
| You don't want to miss that. | ||
| But you have some time over the next couple days to read Modern Monetary Theory, The Idea That Broke the World. | ||
| I told you, credit cards, $1.2 trillion in credit cards. | ||
| Average APR, I don't know, 25 to 27 percent. | ||
| President Trump said, hey, I'm getting it down to 10. Bernie Sanders is making a big deal about trying to hold him to that. | ||
| Well, President Trump's going to try hard. | ||
| But right now, they just wrote off, I think, $78 billion of credit card debt to zero. | ||
| The pressure is on. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The pressure is on. | ||
| And so now, I think more than ever, you need to look at alternative kind of asset classes. | ||
| Philip Patrick and the team will talk to you about that. | ||
| So go to birchgold.com. | ||
| You go slash Bannon. | ||
| You get the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| You can read all six series. | ||
| It's kind of like a small book now. | ||
| I'm really proud of this because you need to be up to speed, particularly as we have the debt ceiling story. | ||
| And we know the Secretary of the Treasury came out with a letter. | ||
| She's already saying you've got to go to emergency measures. | ||
| Starting on Thursday when we're back to regular shows, right? | ||
| You're going to see the firestorm. | ||
| It's just going to be all over everybody on the kinetic part of the Third World War. | ||
| Hannibal's going to be here in a minute on that. | ||
| We got this fiasco on budgets, deficits, DOGE, Deconstruction Administration, State, the debt. | ||
| Cain over at Citizens Free Press had the debt clock. | ||
| He took the debt clock out, just using the math of the debt clock, just put a number in. | ||
| 51... | ||
| Trillion dollars, what was it, by 2030, I want to say, 2030? | ||
| 2025, 2030, I think it was 2030, 51 trillion. | ||
| Four years, 51 trillion. | ||
| There'll be a new world after that. | ||
| You do understand that. | ||
| So go get, and if you just want to get the IRAs and 401ks, just take your phone and text Bannon at 989898. Do it today. | ||
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| This is Navy brew, dark roast, but I tell you, they took years to take the acid out of it. | ||
| You don't need cream or sugar. | ||
| You can drink this the old-fashioned way, black, just like we do on destroyers, right, when you're in the North Arabian Sea of the Persian Gulf. | ||
| I'll give you my Jimmy Carter story, right, my Jimmy Carter story. | ||
| Young naval officer, we're in an exercise to go to my second Westpac, Western Pacific, on the USS Paul F. Foster. | ||
| At this time, I was the navigator. | ||
| We get called in because the hostages just got taken. | ||
| I think we'd been underway three or four weeks. | ||
| We were doing a workup in what's called the Op area off of Hawaii. | ||
| And I think it was the Midway. | ||
| So we followed the Midway to Korea. | ||
| They had to get there because the carrier battle groups around Korea had immediately gone to the Middle East, which the Navy was not used to. | ||
| You know, it wasn't really our—the British really controlled that. | ||
| So we went over there, and this is President Carter. | ||
| This was the hostage crisis, and we'd had to work up for months and months and months every day doing the exercises with the helicopters. | ||
| And you could kind of tell, I don't know if this thing's going to work, because Iran, when you're there, looks like the mountains of the moon. | ||
| It's a pretty bleak landscape. | ||
| I don't think we saw the sun totally the entire time. | ||
| It's always gray because of the dust, or what they call foreign object debris, FOD. Which makes it pretty tough on helicopters. | ||
| So I'm not sure they thought that one through. | ||
| And as a, I don't know, 24, 25-year-old naval officer, I was sitting there going, I don't know if we've thought this one through. | ||
| And I was a grundoon to a grundoon. | ||
| But one thing I did realize then, I'm not so sure what real information gets up all the way to the commander-in-chief and to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and to the Situation Room. | ||
| It was a great... | ||
| Learning experience for me later when I was in those spots because you just don't know. | ||
| Like in Syria when they tell you, oh yeah, use chemical weapons. | ||
| Were you sure about that? | ||
| Do you have evidence of that? | ||
| Are we like 100% because you're asking President Trump to be firing cruise missiles into something? | ||
| Are we sure? | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. | ||
| We got pictures here. | ||
| And of course you find out a year later, not so much. | ||
| So I can give you more details on my president's Carter's story on Gonzo Station and Camel Station up in the North Arabian Sea by the Gulf of Oman and the Persian Gulf. | ||
| Today we got issues of our own. | ||
| Think back in those times, what was it, 40 years ago? | ||
| And think where this country is today and the people that sacrificed for the Gulf War, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Section 60 over at Arlington National Cemetery where our honored dead that gave the ultimate sacrifice for this republic. | ||
| What would they think of us today? | ||
| And that's who we owe this to, right? | ||
| That's what we do this. | ||
| We owe as much It's Burke's dictum. | ||
| We owe as much to the past as we owe to the future. | ||
| Yes, it is for the children and grandchildren, but we owe a debt. | ||
| We owe a debt back to every patriot's grave to the beginning of this project, to the New Jerusalem. | ||
| And we're here to say, hey, we ain't going down without a fight, okay? | ||
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Okay. | |
| Bhatia, your thoughts? | ||
| Where do we go here? | ||
| You had a crazy Irishman yelling in a microphone for the last hour or so. | ||
| You're pretty calm, cool, and collective. | ||
| Where do we take this? | ||
| Where do we go on this project to make sure that the oligarchs don't destroy the American working man and woman, ma'am? | ||
| First of all, everyone should go and watch your two epic rants last hour. | ||
| They were so unbelievably perfect. | ||
| I'll just add a little bit of data to the point you were making. | ||
| You were talking about how we shouldn't be distinguishing between illegal and legal immigration. | ||
| First of all, when I was traveling for my book, Second Class Around the Country, interviewing hundreds of working class people from both parties, they totally agree with you. | ||
| They want a full moratorium on immigration, legal and illegal. | ||
| When you hear somebody saying, Oh, we can only control illegal immigration, but we should be expanding legal immigration. | ||
| This is rhino talk. | ||
| This is the kind of thing that Democrats and Republicans are already trying to come together again over in order to expand immigration. | ||
| The problem is that legal immigration also reduces wages because labor, like everything else, adheres to the ironclad law of supply and demand. | ||
| The more you have of something, the cheaper it is. | ||
| And so you are Completely correct that the thing we should be doing is asking for a total moratorium on immigration. | ||
| If you take the graph of working class wages since the 70s, which was the high watermark, right? | ||
| When they started to go like this, and you compare it to the graph of immigration, they're like this. | ||
| They are a complete X because the more immigrants, the less wages, native born Americans of all races, as you always point out, Mr. Bannon, Can ask for. | ||
| And I'll just make one more point on this, which is that the share of the United States population right now that is foreign born is 15%, which is the highest it has ever been in the history of this nation. | ||
| The last time it came this close at 14% was the gilded age, a time characterized by inequality. | ||
| And 1971, the share of the population that was foreign born at that high watermark for working class wages 4%. | ||
| So I think that you are spot on, Mr. Bannon, as always. | ||
| Bantia, where people get your writings, where you're writing today, and of course your books and podcasts, all your content, you've got a big fan base here in the war room. | ||
| I'm on Twitter, although who knows how much longer my account will be active there. | ||
| Like many of us, I think we're seeing the writing on the walls of a new censorship regime from the so-called free speech person, Mr. Elon Musk. | ||
| I'm on Instagram at BatyaUS. | ||
| I'm the opinion editor at Newsweek, where we really try to give a lot of room to voices across the political spectrum. | ||
| And whenever I'm invited, I am of course here because this is the place to be, Mr. Bannon. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Happy New Year and thank you for your patriotism and your heroism. | ||
| It is so needed. | ||
| You are the man that we need and thank God the man we have. | ||
| Thank you, Bachi. | ||
| I appreciate you. | ||
| Make sure we get everybody hooked up to all your content. | ||
| Thank you for the kind words. | ||
| Not totally deserved. | ||
| I get the easiest job in the world. | ||
| I just take Warpath Coffee and one of the war room posse said, you're in jacked up thug mode today. | ||
| I just yell into a microphone. | ||
| You guys are the guys that do the work, right? | ||
| But we're building a cadre. | ||
| One thing I will tell you, as people come to the show and listen to it, more and more the scales are dropping off their eyes. | ||
| I think this last one's been a great exercise for us. | ||
| Because they're going to treat you like a child. | ||
| They're going to lecture you. | ||
| And they're going to lie to you. | ||
| Bald-faced lie. | ||
| Highly skilled foreign workers. | ||
| This is not about India. | ||
| India is one of the greatest civilizations on this planet. | ||
| The depth of its knowledge of philosophy is virtually unparalleled, I think. | ||
| It's an ancient, ancient civilization. | ||
| And it's got, I think, one of the finest leaders in the world as a nationalist. | ||
| Modi thinks of India. | ||
| First, second, and third. | ||
| And it's also the largest democracy. | ||
| Remember, 800 million people, I think, can vote at 1.4 billion overall. | ||
| This is not about India. | ||
| It's not about Indians. | ||
| This is about citizens of this country. | ||
| You are fully capable of doing these jobs. | ||
| And it's the 50 or 60 million or 70 million men that are not in the workforce in working age that we need to get back. | ||
| They're one of our greatest resources. | ||
| And they feel like trash. | ||
| They feel like garbage. | ||
| It's not right. | ||
| And we're not going to rest until we set things right. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. | |
| Okay. | ||
| We do have a speakers contest on Friday. | ||
| That is going to take up a lot of our time on Thursday and Friday. | ||
| We're going to get into the details of it. | ||
| I'll be putting stuff up on Getter, and Grace will be putting it up on Twitter the rest of the day and through tomorrow on New Year's Day. | ||
| Joining us now is Congresswoman Victoria Sparks from Indiana. | ||
| Congressman... | ||
| You were on the show a couple of times in the big fights of last year. | ||
| You made a decision a while ago to say, hey, look, if this thing's going to be like it is, and we're not going to really make any changes, the appropriation bill is not going to get done, I'm going to go spend time with my family. | ||
| And then you made a decision, hey, I think I need to be back, and clearly the people in your district love you and want you to be back. | ||
| As you're here now getting ready for this, was it the right decision? | ||
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Well, I think, you know, I always look at things and I said, you know what, everything is in the hands of God. | |
| And I, you know, I grew up under Marxism in a very tough environment and have enormous appreciation for freedoms. | ||
| And unfortunately, I have to fight my own party. | ||
| And I've done it from Tea Party time because my party is betraying the American people. | ||
| And if we do that, Marxists are going to win. | ||
| So I spent a lot of time in the trenches, and I said, oh my gosh, it's insanity. | ||
| I'm getting PTSD from this job. | ||
| I need to spend maybe more time and get my sanity back. | ||
| But a lot of people in my district were upset, and I felt like, you know what? | ||
| Republicans are failing again, and I'll just let people and God decide. | ||
| You know, I joined the race. | ||
| It was a very tough race. | ||
| A lot of money was spent against me in a very short period of time. | ||
| But people and God decided, now I cannot fail, and I have to make sure that Republicans are going to deliver on the promises that we've done and help President Trump to actually have these laws in the code because we thought it happened. | ||
| When we didn't do it, having majority in 2016, as soon as he was gone, everything was short-lived. | ||
| And Connors became broken and corrupted institutions, so we have to fix it now. | ||
| Congressman, you put out something the other day about what you're looking forward to kind of vote for Speaker, and it appeared to folks as to be kind of common sense of what they would want to do if they were in your position, but the reaction was like you were trying to change the Constitution. | ||
| Can you go through what you put out and what you're talking about, and why did that create a firestorm? | ||
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Well, unfortunately, we need to, like, teach people what about really constitutions about. | |
| And there are a lot of people that are willing to put their life on the line and freedoms, people like you. | ||
| And a lot of Americans don't realize how many Americans sacrificed for us to have this freedom, where we don't have political elites and people on top telling us what to do. | ||
| But it's all about the money. | ||
| Conor has been Article I branch for a reason, because our founding fathers wanted to make sure that we'll watch over people's money. | ||
| And unfortunately, Congress haven't been doing its job. | ||
| This is a constitutional duty, you know, for Congress to serve the people. | ||
| And if we don't drain the swamp with the money, all other stuff doesn't matter. | ||
| All letters, presentations don't matter. | ||
| Only money matters. | ||
| When we get this agency to the table, including an agency like FBI or DOJs that have been oppressive and say, you know what? | ||
| You're going to lose your money. | ||
| You have to justify and tell us what in the hell are you doing with people's money. | ||
| That will get their attention. | ||
| That is the only way for us to deliver on promises that President Trump ran on and won. | ||
| So are you demanding that Johnson sit down with you, that Speaker Johnson sit down with you and convince you he's going to do it? | ||
| Because clearly it hasn't happened in the past. | ||
| Just where do we stand and where do we stand with your demands? | ||
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I think he needs to say it publicly, because unfortunately, you know, whatever he says, and I mean, you've seen what's happened before with all of the fiscal commissions that he was trying to deal in, you know, that we have a plan for debt ceiling increase. | |
| I mean, President Trump is right. | ||
| We have no plan. | ||
| And now he inherited a lot of problems, but it should have been dealt with previous speaker two years ago. | ||
| But he didn't deal with that, too, when I tried to push on him. | ||
| You know, we need to make sure that we have some structures in place that we'd be able to do that. | ||
| But he needs to say it publicly. | ||
| You saw what he did on FISA. He was deciding vote to let the swamp win and have warrantless surveillance on Americans. | ||
| You know, so I do not trust him. | ||
| He was making deals with Schumer, suspended the rules, and then after the rule suspensions, you know, he was making a deal with them and have his hundred soldiers that will rob a stamp of anything for him and pretty much let Democrats run the show for the last two years, exactly. | ||
| Post office bills Republican couldn't pass anything meaningful. | ||
| Democrats were making fun of us, you know? | ||
| And it's really sad reality. | ||
| So he doesn't have any trust. | ||
| And I don't trust him that he's gonna deliver. | ||
| But I think he needs to under his constitutional duties. | ||
| I don't ask him to do anything beyond What the Constitution required Congress to do to actually go in front of the American people and said how he's going to be delivering on President Trump agenda to make sure that it has lasting effects, to make sure we're going to eliminate fraud, abuse, and corruption and oppression of people. | ||
| And it's all, Steve, about the money. | ||
| If we don't deal with money, everything else doesn't matter. | ||
| So I will have a meeting with him. | ||
| We had a discussions, but I don't trust he's going to do it. | ||
| So I think he needs to publicly say what he's going to do it. | ||
| And if he's not willing to do it, then he doesn't have courage and he will not do it because he has so many people in the swamp put in pressure and he folded to them every time. | ||
| For the last year he's been a speaker every time he folded to the swamp. | ||
| So suddenly he's not going to be this warrior and fighter. | ||
| But if he's not willing to do it, then he shouldn't be a speaker. | ||
| But if he says that he's going to do it, he needs to be transparent with the people. | ||
| Okay, so you're saying, hey, I've dealt with this guy enough. | ||
| What he says in the room, and I've heard this from so many people, what he says in the room is not what actually happens. | ||
| You get caught by surprise, like the 1,500-page document with the $300 billion increase over the CR plus a pay raise that I know you didn't want, a surprise pay raise. | ||
| So you're saying, hey, I don't trust you, but if you come out publicly and do these following things and state it publicly and show us a plan that you'll stick to, I can be convinced. | ||
| If he does not come out with that plan, right, if he doesn't feel comfortable or for whatever reason he doesn't come out with that plan, given that President Trump and Elon Musk now have both said they have his backing, where is Congressman Victoria Sparks on the afternoon of 3 January in the year of our Lord 2025? | ||
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Well, listen, and I understand the concerns that President Trump and Elon have. | |
| I understand that. | ||
| You know, I understand that they want to make sure that things go smoothly and January 12th, January 6th, January 20th is going to happen. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| And it will happen. | ||
| You know, but we need to make sure that we have lasting effects and also we'll have a leader who will help them to deliver. | ||
| So the challenge is also changing the rules. | ||
| A lot of people don't realize it. | ||
| You know, they're pushing speaker, pushing to change the rules, where it will take, I mean, minimum it will be nine people to vacate the speaker. | ||
| So after the speaker is done, if he doesn't commit before it, there's going to be no accountability. | ||
| Unfortunately, you might find two or three people willing to die on a hill, very hard to find nine people there. | ||
| So it's very likely that whoever's going to be the speaker is going to be speaker for the next two years. | ||
| And, you know, you don't know. | ||
| In two years, if we don't deliver, we're probably going to lose majority because people will be pissed off at us. | ||
| So I think this is going to be very important that we have this speaker that is committed to deliver an agenda and actually add the plan. | ||
| And if speaker is not willing to do it and doesn't have the courage and to actually govern our branch and deliver promises, you know, I cannot deliver for the people that elected me. | ||
| I was elected, but grassroots people, Trump supporters, MAGA people, conservatives, that I said, I will go and take this hill for you. | ||
| So my responsibility is that people are representing the Constitution. | ||
| If I don't have the speakers willing to do it, I cannot vote for him, and I will not vote for him. | ||
| Last question, because I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| Of everything that's coming at us, from the kinetic part of the Third World War to the 15 million illegal aliens we've got to get out of here, the H-1B visas, the debt at $37 trillion, what is the one problem you would tell the American people, given your knowledge of the inside, that keeps you up at night? | ||
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Healthcare. | |
| This has become destructive for our country. | ||
| We're destroying the health, productivity of our nation. | ||
| We're really killing American people. | ||
| Between bad food and, you know, bad medicine, that is really right now with subsidizing oligopolis, bankrupting people, bankrupting the country, you know, hyperinflation of price, and the outcomes are going down. | ||
| We need to be a healthy, productive nation. | ||
| We need to treat people, but also not just to provide value, good quality of life, have a productive society. | ||
| We're spending so much money on this, subsidizing, and people are not getting healthier. | ||
| So we need to have a healthy population, and it's truly the biggest corruption in Washington, D.C., oligopolis on healthcare. | ||
| Hundreds of billions of fraud, and they pretty much bought the Senate, and a lot of people are afraid of them. | ||
| So I think healthcare is one of the biggest issues. | ||
| If we resolve, we will have a lot of great things happen in our society and make our population more productive, better workforce, healthier workforce, and better future for our country. | ||
| Congressman, people want to follow you particularly over the next 72 hours. | ||
| Where do they go on social media and your website so they can keep up with all your latest thinking? | ||
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Well, I think we'll do it on access, RepSparts. | |
| And I try to keep posted as much as I can. | ||
| And I'm very transparent and I'll tell how it is. | ||
| But I understand that. | ||
| I pick my hills to die on, Steve. | ||
| I don't die on every hill, but we have to take that, and this is a very important hill. | ||
| If we don't take that hill in the next year, We are not going to have greatness and prosperity that President Trump promised. | ||
| And we have to get this republic. | ||
| I said it's like a Titanic. | ||
| It is like a Titanic. | ||
| And it's been on this course, collision course, for a while. | ||
| So we'll need to make some adjustments. | ||
| But I think President Trump has courageous people in his agencies. | ||
| He has a lot of good people around him. | ||
| But it all goes back to Congress. | ||
| They will betray him. | ||
| If we don't have a strong speaker, he will not even understand what they're doing. | ||
| Unfortunately, this won't be very clever. | ||
| And they know a lot of tricks and procedures. | ||
| And speaker has to have a courage to say, enough is enough. | ||
| I'm going to govern for with the people. | ||
| I'm elected by the people. | ||
| We are people's house. | ||
| And that's what constitutional was supposed to do. | ||
| And we forgot who we serve. | ||
| Governments should be afraid of the people, not people afraid of the government. | ||
| That is by our funding principles. | ||
| And we need to go back to them. | ||
| Congressman, honored to have you on here, ma'am. | ||
| We will follow you closely and look forward to having you back on. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you for having me, Steve. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, I guess we'll stay in Ukraine. | ||
| I got Harnwell, I got D-Royce White. | ||
| Ben, I know you got some thoughts here, and I want to get in about Ukraine, about all this breaking news, and it looks like they're trying to jam President Trump into a corner. | ||
| Thoughts? | ||
| Steve, yeah. | ||
| Look, this story, I wonder if Denver would very kindly pull up the article that I have here. | ||
| There's some headlines going around to say that Putin and Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, have rejected Trump's peace proposals for Ukraine. | ||
| I just wanted to come in and weigh on this and suggest, look, I think that the press is somewhat overselling this. | ||
| I think this is more noise rather than signal for a whole number of reasons. | ||
| But essentially, there's no proposals that Donald Trump Can either formally or informally make at this point because it's not being inaugurated. | ||
| If you remember back in 2016, this was precisely the issue they got formally. | ||
| This is the issue that they got General Flynn over with regards to the Hogan Act. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| But regardless, they say they're going to reject any peacekeeping force, British troops, French troops, NATO troops. | ||
| That's Lavrov those guys said we're not going to consider it. | ||
| Is there a deal there, regardless of the time when President Trump, is there a deal there without a security force made up of NATO and British troops to your thinking? | ||
| I think all sides, Steve, want now at this point to resolve this. | ||
| I say all sides, I don't mean the present American administration, but there's a desire to get to what would be a peace, a solid, viable peace. | ||
| The Europeans are pushing this idea that they will provide peacekeeping troops. | ||
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Poland is pushing this. | |
| Give your social media. | ||
| I'm not sure I agree with you, but you're my co-host tomorrow morning on the New Year's show. | ||
| We'll take it up then. | ||
| What's your social media, brother? | ||
| Actually, we do agree with one another, but I just haven't been able to get in the two minutes to the crux of this. | ||
| Basically, America is trying to be tricked to stay in the game on this. | ||
| And I don't think the Trump administration is buying on this. | ||
| The fundamental issue that Putin said no on is simply ruling out Ukraine membership of NATO for 20 years only. | ||
| And that's obviously not a viable position. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Okay, breaking news, folks. | ||
| And I told you, we got you in, we read you in on this problem a couple weeks ago. | ||
| Remember, I kept pushing and arguing we should start, we should flood the zone with these confirmations starting on, what, Monday the 6th or the 7th as soon as the... | ||
| Votes legitimate, certified. | ||
| President Trump just put out, we just want a historic landslide and mandate from the American people, but Senate Democrats are organizing to improperly stall and delay the confirmation process of many of our great nominees. | ||
| They will try all sorts of tricks starting very soon. | ||
| Republicans must not allow them to do that. | ||
| Gentlemen, we have to go to, ladies and gentlemen, we've got to go to full on in the Senate to make this happen. | ||
| We cannot delay. | ||
| President Trump, remember, 3,000 hit the beach, 1,000 Senate confirmed, but all the big... | ||
| You know, department heads, defense, CIA, DNI, Homeland Security, the Attorney General, all should start immediately. | ||
| I knew they were going to play these games, and this is in conjunction with some rhinos, too. | ||
| You watch. | ||
| So more on that on Thursday. | ||
| Royce White, the Royce White, joins me. | ||
| Royce, I know you've been all over this issue of the H-1B visas for a while. | ||
| Give us your thoughts. | ||
| We're going to have you back on Thursday or Friday, but I wanted to get you in before the stroke of midnight in 2024 to be our last guest, sir. | ||
| I appreciate it, Steve. | ||
| Always good to be in the war room with you. | ||
| You know, I've been highly skeptical of Elon for a long time. | ||
| And, you know, this free enterprise, free trade, normalizing this globalization and the visas is just another great example. | ||
| You know, we're going to create a workaround for the illegal immigration crisis that we face the last, I don't know how many, Generations of American politics by saying, we need these people. | ||
| And it's really an insult to the American people. | ||
| We need these people because you Americans aren't smart enough to do these jobs. | ||
| And like you've said before, many people have come on and reiterated there's no evidence for it whatsoever. | ||
| There are Americans that either are skilled enough, have the aptitude, or can certainly be taught to do these jobs. | ||
| And even more so than this, you know, the visas are the issue. | ||
| But the visas are a sort of canary in the coal mine for America First or MAGA becoming this sort of slogan to be slapped on the next agenda of status quo. | ||
| And we can't let it happen. | ||
| We're not going to let it happen. | ||
| Like you said, over our dead body, and I'm right there backing you 100%. | ||
| The MAGA movement, what's special about the MAGA movement is it's uniparty proof and it is status quo proof. | ||
| We have to ensure that that continues to be the case because it's the last hill that we can die on as American citizenship. | ||
| And American citizenship will die on that hill. | ||
| So, you know, Elon, the big issue here is, and I said this exact right after Donald Trump won, the next fight over the horizon is technology. | ||
| And when I said technology, I really meant Elon Musk, but I wasn't saying Elon Musk. | ||
| But it's not just him, it's a mentality. | ||
| It's a sort of cosmopolitan globalist mentality that says we can talk about politics on the surface, but when push comes to shove, the unfettered technological advancement, blind faith sort of without any real wisdom or protocol or competence in many regards. | ||
| We're going to push and plow ahead with technology no matter what, whether it's America first, last. | ||
| Technology kind of has its own special silo of consideration, and everybody should agree with it and go along with it because it's going to make everything more convenient. | ||
| Convenience will be the death of freedom, and it will certainly be the death of American freedom. | ||
| The visas are just a great example, and I'm glad we're having the fight right now. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Look forward to having you back on. | ||
| Royce, where do people go to get all your content? | ||
| I know you're putting stuff up and the show's on fire. | ||
| So where do folks go? | ||
| Please call me crazy Monday, Wednesday, Friday. | ||
| I'm on Saturday mornings, 9 a.m. | ||
| Eastern, before you on War Room. | ||
| And follow the War Room. | ||
| I'm right here. | ||
| I'm with the War Room Posse until my dying breath, Elon. | ||
| Be careful, brother. | ||
| Be careful. | ||
| Royce White, thank you, brother. | ||
| Our last guest of one of the most important years in modern American history, I think in all of American history, the return of President Trump. | ||
| Royce White, thank you so much. | ||
| Honor to have you on here. | ||
| Happy New Year, sir. | ||
| Godspeed, brother. | ||
| Love you. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| Love you, too. | ||
| Mike Lindell wouldn't be right if we didn't finish 2024 in the War Room without the one and only, one of the greatest patriots in the history of this country, Mike Lindell. | ||
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| Thanks, Steve. | ||
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| The Robert Shaw Corral will take us out here on a New Year's Eve. | ||
| What a year. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Your victories will be talked about for ages to come. | ||
| That's how big 2024 is. | ||
| 2025... | ||
| We're going to have to saddle up. | ||
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