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Dec. 28, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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kaitlan collins
The battle that's underway in Trump world that we laid out for you here last night is only escalating even further today.
In his clash with the far right over immigration, Elon Musk is now going after the hardliners, the very heart of the MAGA base, labeling them just a few hours ago as, quote, contemptible fools who must be removed from the Republican Party root and stem.
Musk now finds himself pitted against the likes of Steve Bannon, however, Trump's former White House aide who came out against Musk's push for H-1B visas, which allow highly skilled foreign workers into the U.S. and has long been the lifeblood of Silicon Valley.
steve bannon
H-1B visas?
That's not what it's about.
It's about taking American jobs and bringing over essentially what become indentured servants at lower wages.
This thing's a scam by the oligarchs in Silicon Valley to basically take jobs from American citizens, give them to what become indentured servants from foreign countries, and then pay them less.
Simple.
To let them through the golden door.
kaitlan collins
Now, Bannon's comments align him with people like the far-right activist Laura Loomer, who has been bashing Musk for days now on this and is even accusing him of censoring her on his own platform.
She is the anti-immigrant Trump ally who is now claiming that her blue checkmark was removed, her subscriptions were deactivated, her character limits for tweets and posts on X were limited for what she says is, quote, raising concerns and speaking the truth about the technocratic takeover of our country in the White House.
steve bannon
The workforce.
Now, I'm also against, I'm also for big restrictions on legal immigration.
Until Silicon Valley, until these places have, I don't know, 20% African American and 20% Hispanic and kids that can go to college and every college you go to, every engineering school you go to is flooded with foreign students, taking American jobs.
I don't agree with that.
American jobs should be for American citizens.
President Trump and I actually disagree with it.
President Trump said a couple of months ago, he said, hey, You know, on every college graduate, right, and every graduate of a community college should have a green card stapled to their diploma.
Remember he said this?
This was after he came back from having dinner with David Sachs and these billionaires out in the tech billionaires in San Francisco.
Every graduate, foreign student graduate, and every graduate, foreign student graduate from community college should have a green card attached to a diploma.
I said, President Trump, on the show, I said, we have tremendous respect for you, we love you, we're at your base, but I've got another recommendation.
I'd like to put an exit visa on every college graduate, foreign student that graduated from college here, in 30 days to leave and go back home and help make their nation great again.
And we shouldn't take any I think it's also important to understand the guy that controls the central social media platform for the MAGA movement.
unidentified
Right.
And if Elon decides, as he's showing with these small ball, these small fries like Loomer and Cernovich and Owen Schroer, all those folks, taking away their verification, taking away their monetization, if he's willing to put his thumb on the scale, he's all in favor of free speech for himself.
And he bought it.
If he controls that platform, he can cause Trump a lot more pressure than Laura Loomer and these other, you know, ranters can cause.
But I do think it's important to remember that the populist movement that's been telling Republican voters for a generation, probably arguably two generations, that immigration is the cause of almost all the evils in their life I think, you know, Molly and Eugene are both right.
He's going to be hearing this from those grassroots folks and it will cause a tension with Elon that I don't think is reconcilable.
And I'm much closer to Elon Musk on the policy issue here than I am, you know, even remotely with Laura Loomer about any of this stuff.
But one of the ironies of all this is that all of these people across the spectrum, they rode this populist tide in claiming that establishment Republicans and conservative establishment and the old Reaganite crowd, the old National Review crowd, they don't know anything and all the answers are super easy and we know exactly what to do.
And then it turns out they come in, and it turns out this stuff is really complicated.
H-1B program is complicated for how you reform it, how do you expand it, what do you do about chain migration?
And the serious people were all pushed aside in favor of all of these populist yahoos from Steve Bannon on down, and now they're the dog that caught the car, and they don't know how to do any of this policy because they haven't done any of the legwork on it.
Yeah, and look, obviously a lot of people are also pointing out, saying basically, dude, you just kind of joined the MAGA universe pretty recently.
What?
Is he being entitled?
But, you know, if I'm Musk, I'm less worried maybe about Laura Loomer than I am about who you showed earlier, Steve Bannon.
Because, you know, so much of the culture, so much of the MAGA universe flows downward from what Bannon says on that program every day.
And he has, when I say an online army around him, he really does, of many MAGA influencers with many, many millions of followers.
And, you know, we've kind of heard this term's internal MAGA civil war go around a lot the past 24 hours, but that really seems to be what's playing out.
And I will just say, you know, Conservatives, Republicans have been very excited to have Musk running X for the last two years.
This is the first time we're really seeing Musk going after people within his own camp.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, Saturday, 28 December, Year of War, 2024. We're here for a pitched battle.
For American citizens and quite frankly, the populist nationalist movement of this 1932 realignment, bringing African American men and Hispanic families, all of it, and fighting for citizens, not just folks that are in the prime of their working life, because a lot of those tech workers are getting laid off from having to work for lower wages, but also the future.
This fight...
Kind of came out of nowhere, but eventually had to happen.
And that's fine.
Hey, just another day at the office.
We're not going to lose this one.
And Doni O'Sullivan right there over at CNN, I think, wrapped it up pretty well.
Rahim, reset this once again.
I wanted to play the cold open from this morning, from the 10 o'clock hour, because I know a lot of people are coming to this late.
As a lot of people have taken a couple days off, and that's fine.
You should have.
We actually had planned to do a pre-record special today, but we're not because of so much breaking news.
Do a reset on this, brother.
raheem kassam
Yes, Steve, look, I think one of the things that I want to stress in all of this, and, you know, I see the consternation on social media, I see the consternation in the live chat, and a lot of people kind of, and rightly so, being like, hey, you know, it's Saturday, December the 28th, after an historic election.
Why are we fighting?
And the reason for that is very simple, ladies and gentlemen.
You have to get on board here.
I am actively recruiting people right now.
Is that in 2016, if you think back, and you think back to all of the problems that were faced, whether it was because of the Russiagate stuff, or the personnel issues, or the Paul Ryan prioritization of, you know, the kind of Thank you.
You know, Steve, I don't need to tell you about this, but I'm reminding the audience of all these things we went through.
We are lining ourselves up if we don't have this fight right now.
We are lining ourselves up for more frustration, more mass migration.
And I'm the guy, by the way, who watched.
I participated a little bit in the Brexit referendum.
And you're right, when we talked in the last hour, Steve, about what was the core rationale behind Brexit for the ordinary British voter, It was bringing down the ridiculous amounts of mass migration that we had coming in, not just from the EU, but indeed allowing ourselves to control our own immigration system again.
Now you're having this argument, ladies and gentlemen.
Now America is in the throes of that same post-Brexit argument where it's like, hey, we took control back.
We did our part of the deal.
You, ladies and gentlemen, did your part of the deal.
I actually hate when we talk about, you know, all of these groups and big people and billionaires and all this stuff who dragged Trump over the line.
It was the American people who dragged Trump over the line.
The little platoons of the, you know, volunteers out there, the voters who stood in line all the day, and the people who put this campaign on their backs, and they gave the $5 and the $10, and they gave their time.
Those are the people who made Trump president again.
So let's focus on their lives and what this means, this new administration means to them.
Because what it doesn't mean is a return to the status quo.
And by status quo, what I mean is this.
This H1B system has existed since 1990, but it traces its lineage back to the 1950s.
And you've had at least since the 90s, year on year, a so-called cap of 85,000 people coming into the United States of America through this system alone.
This is the legalized version of replacement, by the way, ladies and gentlemen.
I'll repeat that.
It is the legal version of replacing you in your country.
But the 85,000 is just a soft cap.
They can make exceptions, they can make exemptions, and they often do.
In reality, you're looking at 120, 140,000 people a year.
And that number came down a little bit during the first Trump administration, but it skyrocketed again in the last four years.
So my question to you is, my question to Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy and all of the people who say that they are going to war with MAGA on this issue, is where does it stop?
What is your cap?
What is your limit?
How many people is enough?
How many people do you need to import until you've got your requisite number of so-called skilled workers?
But then you go through the H-1B database, Steve, and it's no such thing as high-skilled, high-demand workers.
No, those are the O-1B visas.
That's the genius visa.
There goes your Einsteins.
There goes your top talent, your academics, your cultural leaders, your thought leaders, your philosopher kings.
Not in the H-1B system.
And the final thing I want to say on this issue is this.
You know, we pulled up a lot of Elon's comments, and we've been looking very intently at the trajectory he's on right now, and it ain't good.
His one yesterday that really, really stood out to me, and you had that one that you pulled up, and I think we need to repeat that as well, by the way.
But this one says even more.
You know, he's in an interaction here with a couple of other people on X. This was a I guess 521, maybe 721 Eastern Time yesterday.
And he says, my point was not to replace DEI, which is one form of racism and sexism, with a different form of racism and sexism, but rather to be a meritocratic society.
Well, that last part sounds relatively fine, but think about what he just said there.
He just said that America first, the idea that you put American workers before foreign workers is a form of DEI, is a form of racism.
Well, I think that is one of the most extraordinary statements that he could have ever made.
And I think it actually disqualifies people like him from working anywhere close to this issue at all.
If you wanna go and look at the budgets and start taking 10, 20, 30% off these huge astronomical budgets in Washington DC, have at it, right?
You have my blessing.
But you should be allowed nowhere near cultural or immigration issues if your perspective is that America first, It's a form of racist DEI. End rant.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Perfect.
And that putting American citizens first.
Here's the thing.
You can't show the merit.
You can't show the merit, dude.
Show us in any of the HB1 videos.
Let's see.
Let's see who the extraordinary guys are.
It's a lie and a scam.
And it leads to chain migration.
It's not the 85,000, 150,000 what it leads to.
And they know it.
And here's the great tragedy.
The Greek tragedy part is the American taxpayer, that citizen, is underwriting all of this for these guys.
You're underwriting all of it.
If you think you're a sucker because you're being played for a sucker, but not anymore.
You delivered this victory.
Your grit, determination, and good old-fashioned elbow grease.
It's now time to take a stand.
This is that third line of work about immigration.
This is another aspect of the legal part.
It's just not about the 15 million illegal aliens have to go home that came here on Biden's watch.
Legal immigration is a big problem.
Temporarily, I say we go to zero.
Zero until we sort this entire mess out and get rid of 1,000% the H-1B scam.
Total scam.
So put that where the sun don't shine.
Short break.
Back in the warm in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Dave Brett joins me.
I want to make sure, birchgold.com, times of turbulence.
You want to know what turbulence is in the three lines of work?
Stopping the forever wars, getting control of the nation's balance sheet, its debt, the deficits, all the madness dealing with the economy, and also then, which we're focused on today, getting our sovereignty back by deporting 15 million illegal alien invaders that came here on Biden's illegitimate watch.
And also stopping all this, the games are being played on this quote-unquote legal immigration, which is just a game to destroy American workers.
If they can make a coherent argument, make it.
In fact, the best coherent argument is to start showing us where all these great superstars are.
Where are the Einsteins?
And why couldn't American workers fill those billets?
I want to know the exact billet and who the Einsteins are.
Is the guy in London that's been put in AI, he's the superstar that could not be replaced?
Is that a guy?
Let's see it.
Let's bring it.
unidentified
Also, Elon put up a tweet yesterday about Tesla.
steve bannon
I know he named the car for it.
Remember, Elon, you're kind of like, not like Tesla, you're actually like Edison.
And who was Tesla's mortal enemy?
Edison.
Quite ironic you put up Tesla in that regard.
You are the modern equivalent of Edison, who I think is obviously one of the greatest Americans.
I think you've done a terrific job in many, many, many aspects.
Give you a lot of credit for President Trump's 2024 A victory.
But it doesn't come...
You get a place on the table, but you don't get to, as Matt Gaetz said, sit here and redirect our immigration policy.
We're never going to concede to the oligarchs in Silicon Valley the neo-feudalism of your economic program.
It's quite evident what it is.
It's a return to neo-feudalism.
Without nation-states, without a country called America, a nation called America, you want kind of these networks...
Of which, and this is the Chinese Communist Party's idea also.
They're still the nation state and the railhead, but it's a system of networks throughout the world.
They'd be quite happy with the Borgias and the Medici's, you know, of Florence and the city-states of Renaissance Italy.
That's not the United States of America.
And I would strongly recommend Vivek.
Or Vivek and Elon.
Learn something about the United States of America.
Learn about our history.
Learn about how we got here, our path.
It might help you guys.
Okay?
Because you're going to need help.
Because we're not quitting this fight.
Dave Bratt.
Thoughts and observations, brother.
dave brat
Yeah, I got in the weeds a little bit on all the nature of the bureaucracy up in the swamp with education.
H2B visas are just the tip of the iceberg of this conversation.
Immigration, it's just shocking.
You know, 70% of the American people are a definite hard no.
They have been for a decade.
And what this debate is really about is all these special carve-outs, right?
Everybody's going to Trump because they want a special carve-out, special attention in the budget.
We have a $7 trillion budget now full of carve-outs.
The last election was about three things, and the war room made them about three things, thanks to you.
The economy, the debt, the border invasion, and the endless wars.
They're all connected.
And they're all about taking the United States of America down a notch.
And you just relayed the three central pillars in the Judeo-Christian West that they're attacking.
They're attacking the nation state itself through the border invasion.
They're attacking the church through a continual attack on our culture.
And they're attacking the family.
The family stats over the past 50 years have just been a disaster.
And so what the America First people and this MAGA project and making the American Citizen First are all about is we want the special carve-outs.
We want a space in the budget for us.
And what I was trying to show before is this giant bureaucracy, Doge as Darren was saying, Doge ought to go after that bureaucracy, and they'll find just hundreds of billions of waste.
Hang on.
steve bannon
But hang on.
But hang on.
Hang on.
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No, Brad, okay, folks at home.
Dave Brat, I was so honored in the first hour.
Beattie, historic figure.
Raheem Kassam, historic figure.
Dave Brat, historic figure.
Brat, your entire being as a political figure and historical figure is based on this topic, this very topic.
Ron Maxwell, the great Julia Hahn.
Julia Hahn was the Natalie Winters of her day.
She was a 21-year-old kid who had gone to the same prep school in L.A. that Natalie went to, Harvard-Westlake, had gone to the University of Chicago.
I think she graduated three years.
She was obsessed, and Laura Ingraham's producer, obsessed with the issue of immigration and what they were doing as far as amnesty and trying to work amnesty and all this thing.
And Dave Bratz, come from behind, the day before, Yeah, 10. 10. Yep.
It was, it still stands as one of the biggest upsets in the history of politics because it was so important.
Cantor was, who was a good guy my family knew, was a really good guy from Richmond.
But Cantor had become, he had become, from being Tom Blally's driver and body man down at Richmond, he had become the epitome of the swamp.
The guy that's taken all the donor money and wanted to do all this immigration.
Bratz, you can actually see a line of demarcation in modern politics from Dave Bratz' upset victory in a primary.
It changed the entire ecosystem in Washington.
All of a sudden, this beginning populist movement, which is just when President Trump was starting to get out there and get his message in places like New Hampshire.
Dave Bratz won, I think, in June of 2014. I had just seen Trump in May at Dave Bossie's cattle call in New Hampshire, Where Trump was talking about these issues and none of the other Republican candidates, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, they wouldn't touch it because they didn't think it was an issue.
Because the Republican orthodoxy was, it wasn't an issue because what big business wants, big business gets.
Brat ran a populist campaign and lit a fire and changed the direction of American history on this very topic 10 years ago, over 10 years ago on this very topic.
And when you say, well, Steve, why haven't you guys won?
Here's the thing.
We have fought a rearguard action, but we have tons of victories, including President Trump as president.
But look at even President Trump in April of 17 signed an executive order to kind of sort this thing out, right, to change it dramatically.
That was taken on by the administrative state and elements of the deep state and just tapped down the road until December of 2020 after the election had been stolen from President Trump when he actually executed on it because the administrative state was in a throwdown.
They will fight to the death on this very topic because this fuels the economy, the economics of the business model of Silicon Valley.
More importantly right now, though, than that, because it's pretty obvious, Brad, as you and BD lay out and Raheem, it is this kind of contempt for American citizens and for America itself.
That we're mediocre.
That our people are mediocre.
That they're lazy.
I got news for you guys.
They ain't mediocre and they're far from lazy.
And you have wakened a sleeping giant.
The people are going to sit there.
And I'm saying in this great realignment, African-Americans and Hispanics, they should get this shot at this too.
But it's not.
The STEM system, the STEM education system, somehow the CCP's all over that, right?
But what you have here, they're not getting superstars.
What they're doing is just getting, they're getting indentured servants.
Indentured servants that are docile, right, and won't complain, and so it makes it tougher for Americans to actually exert their rights as employees, right, number one.
Number two, it drives down wages, right?
And it leads to chain migration.
And that's kind of this dark underbelly and this contempt.
What you hear from these guys is actual contempt for American citizens in the United States of America.
Well, hey, we'll take the opposite side of that.
We'll go long.
We're long.
We're long the American citizen and we're long the United States of America, okay?
So we'll defend this.
Just like we put the Democrats in a position to have it defend corrupt, incompetent, and failing institutions, and all of a sudden they woke up one day when they started losing elections and go, hey, how do we end up defending it?
What the tech bros right now...
What they're defending is not defensible.
We dare you to start showing us on these H-1B visas, where are the superstars?
Where are they?
And why were there Americans that couldn't compete?
Show us the receipts.
Because you got Posobiec, you got National Pulse, and you have others that are going through there.
Dave, hang on for one second.
Raheem, you want to jump in here at the National Pulse.
I know you guys are grinding away to get to the bottom of this, all of it, particularly go through the receipts on this.
What do you got?
raheem kassam
Yeah, that's right.
Look, and I will stress once again, this isn't a fight that we wanted or we started over the Christmas period.
There's a reaction to these things that are going on in the background of this transition process, things that are going on in the background of tech world as it kind of goes through its own panic.
Over, you know, it's what you just described.
It's status quo ante for so very long has been the model of indentured servitude.
So it's Saturday.
We're at the desk.
We're working all day.
We'll be working on it tomorrow all week long.
And I want people to really follow along here because we're going to have a breakdown of how all of this works.
And I know Revolver, by the way, has an incredible piece up right now, so I want people to go and check that out too.
But make sure you're going to thenationalpulse.com.
Make sure you've got it bookmarked.
Join up at thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room.
And I know I've been watching the live chat all morning.
People are on fire about this.
And you can go to thenationalpulse.com forward slash donate as well if you want to support our work.
We really do need all the hands we can get here because this is everything, right?
This fight.
And you're going to see it metastasize over the course of the day more.
Steve, I'll throw it back to you.
But thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on, guys.
Julie Kelly's also going to join us.
There's other news on the debt.
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The Secretary of Treasury, as I predicted, is playing around with the balance sheet of the United States of America.
She just dropped a dime on us.
Said, hey, I think you have to go to extraordinary measures on, I don't know, January 13th.
Surprise!
We're out of here.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Michael Seifert yesterday at Public Square.
I'll get that clip.
I'll play it again Monday, but I'll put it back up.
Grace will help me on that.
And Kerry Donovan.
Seifert was a hero yesterday.
When he came out, because he's a tech company.
Also, Chris over at Rumble.
Chris over at Rumble has texted me during the show.
Not one H-1B engineer or anybody associated with that over at Rumble, which do a great job.
I want to give a hat tip to the Rumble folks, particularly our chat over Rumble, which is a little edgy on occasions.
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unidentified
Right?
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Julie Kelly, because of Julie Kelly, big articles are coming out that Jack Smith and his team are not just running, not the rats leaving the ships, but they're luring up top-lineers.
Tell us all about it, Judy, about Jack Smith's concern about the afternoon of 20 November, 2025, Accountability Day, ma'am.
julie kelly
Yes, so there was another report in Rolling Stone this week, Steve, that further confirmed Jack Smith, his team of thug prosecutors and investigators, are not just lawyering up, as we've already discussed,
but they are reviewing their communications, both personal and professional, to make sure they don't have any, you know, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page-type techs talking about taking out Trump or You know, smelly Walmart Trump shoppers and that sort of thing that we uncovered with those texts to make sure to try to ensure that there was nothing political or partisan in their communication,
but also that they are figuring out how to protect their assets, including their spouse's assets, Because, of course, they are afraid that they are going to suffer the same torment by Trump DOJ that they've inflicted on Donald Trump and, of course, his co-defendants and others in their pursuit of trying to put Donald Trump behind bars.
steve bannon
You hear now Brennan and all these guys, and they're all over cash.
Webster came out with another thing that would be a terrible idea.
It would be a precedent that would be extraordinary if Cash Patel was approved.
And cash, listen folks, it's a long way from being a done deal on cash being approved.
We think we've put out the fires, but they're going to come back strong.
Give me your assessment overall.
Of what we need to do as a movement once January 20th to come about getting full accountability for Pelosi's committee, Cheney, the whole J6 committee, what happened on J6, the election of 2020, and particularly what happened to the folks that the 1,000 that got thrown in prison over this, ma'am.
julie kelly
Right.
So, I mean, Pam Bondi and Cash Patel, if they are confirmed, are going to have their hands full with fully exposing and holding accountable people like Jack Smith, Jay Brett, David Harbaugh, Tom Windham and Molly Gaston.
Those are his top prosecutors in both the classified documents case in Florida and the J6 indictment in Washington.
They are going to have their hands full with corruption, prosecutorial misconduct, which we've talked about, especially in the classified documents case.
At the FBI breaching the very broad terms of that search warrant of Mar-a-Lago, rummaging through, ransacking Mrs. Trump's bedroom suite and Barron Trump's bedroom unnecessarily and in violation of the search warrant.
Those are just a few little nuggets, Steve, about what they are going to be looking into.
Also, of course, D.C. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, the Biden appointee, who is continuing, Steve, to charge individuals for their participation in the events of January 6th.
He is continuing to bring new cases.
He's continuing to put people on trial in Washington, D.C., a city that voted 93% for Kamala Harris.
He is continuing to seek excessive prison sentences And ask judges to put even misdemeanors, misdemeanors, into immediate custody, throwing them in jail because they're afraid that on January 20th, a lot of these hundreds of these J6ers will be pardoned, especially those who are convicted of these four basic misdemeanors.
So that is in addition to Jack Smith, in addition to Matthew Graves, of course, Liz Cheney, and the January 6th Select Committee.
We know now for a fact that Liz Cheney was using an encrypted app to directly communicate with Cassidy Hutchinson, who dramatically changed her previous testimony after she was in communication with Liz Cheney, dumped her Trump-paid lawyer, Stephan Pasantino, tried to destroy him, then got Liz Cheney's two recommended pro bono lawyers, and all of a sudden Cassidy Hutchinson's story changed.
Then we heard about this election confrontation in the presidential vehicle.
Then we heard about Donald Trump throwing things on January 6th, right?
All of this explosive testimony Cassidy Hutchinson gave under oath in June of 2022 before the select committee.
Not a single person, Steve, has corroborated Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony.
And in fact, the J6 committee did not even interview the driver of the limo, whose attorney went to the J6 committee several times seeking to testify under oath.
They didn't even interview him until the day before the 2022 election.
He directly refuted, said that confrontation never happened.
There is perjury and suborning of perjury at the very least between Cheney and Cassidy Hutchinson.
steve bannon
Suborning of perjury, witness tampering, perjury, all of it, we've got to get to the bottom of it.
Julie, you're doing amazing work.
I realize you're out and about on the Christmas holidays.
Where do people go to get all your, the social media, everything, because you're breaking news on this nonstop.
We're going to have you back on, hopefully Monday, Tuesday.
julie kelly
That would be great.
Real Clear Investigations, Julie Kelly's substack, Declassified with Julie Kelly, and then Twitter, XJulie underscore Kelly, too.
steve bannon
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
julie kelly
Talk to you Monday.
Thanks.
steve bannon
So many people.
Folks got to understand there's so much going on with obviously the whole Trump team's working because of transition.
The 20th is upon us.
But we got the speakers race coming up.
I'm spending a ton of time on that.
Over the weekend I'll be putting up stuff.
Monday that's going to be a big part of the show.
Obviously this whole fight over immigration because we got to get some things sorted.
Just have to do it.
There's a big part of that third line of work, which is, you know, getting our sovereignty back, which means deporting the 15 million.
And I understand big things are going to happen day one, and we're looking for the reconciliation bill about the border.
That's something else people are working on.
We want that as close to January 20th also.
Two reconciliations, not one.
But this whole thing about legal immigration, look, you got to lance the boil.
Let's go for it.
We're still waiting, guys.
We're still waiting on the H-1B visas.
Show me the superstars.
Let's do it.
You're letting in 150,000 people a year and then chain migration.
There are tens of millions of folks here because of this program, because of this con, because of this scam.
We want to get to the bottom of it.
If you want more about, you know, you've got the confirmation hearings come up.
I'm really advocating that Cash is to the front of that.
But I understand Grassley has a rule.
I think it's 28 days after your paperwork's in.
I think Cash is working on all that to get it done, I don't know, today or tomorrow.
But hopefully, I would love to see Cash, love to see him confirmed, of which will become the confirmation hearings wall-to-wall.
I'd like to see him confirmed before President Trump goes in and take the oath right after that.
I don't know if that's going to happen or not.
But go to governmentgangsters, warroom.film.
We're now getting back into the film business.
I'm starting to redistribute some of the classics that we've made over time.
Maybe some additional films we're picking up from people.
A lot of people are coming.
We think films are a great way to educate people.
Governmentgangsters...
Cash's book is terrific.
I think what I had in mind in producing this was to make it a little more accessible to people that may find some of these legal books a little confusing.
The books are great.
Cash has sent a ton of copies.
We recommend Government Gangsters.
You actually get to see the personality of Cash Patel.
He's the only real interview in the entire world.
And the entire story, I want to do it in kind of a first-person cast.
So government gangsters, go to warroom.film, maybe over this holiday weekend or all the way through New Year's, because kind of a four-day, five-day where people are taking off, six-day where people kind of enjoy their family.
It's a good one to watch for the family, talk about, and make sure you take clips and push them out there.
And Dan Fluetz.
You know, I think I signed, I don't know, hundreds of books at AmFest.
AmFest was amazing and terrific.
But Rebels, Rogues, and Outlaws.
Just go in the chat and ask people about it.
This is an extraordinary book.
It came out so much better.
And I thought when Dan first pitched it to me, Dan turns out is a true artist.
The photography here is extraordinary.
You put that on your coffee table, that's a conversation piece, and you're going to love flipping through it.
The additional thing, he's a brilliant writer.
He gets kind of the spirit of the worm.
It's the pictorial history of the first five years.
And you see all the contributors, the behind-the-scenes folks.
It's really an extraordinary thing.
So you can get it at Amazon or you go to SkyCast.
I like it at Amazon because it counts towards everything and driving up.
I think the top book in five or six categories around photography and even some politics.
So Rebels, Rogues, and Outlaws, The Pictorial History of the War Room by Dan Fluitt.
So make sure you go check that out today.
So, a couple things.
Number one, this situation in Ukraine is getting worse and worse.
The day the war itself is actually getting bloodier and more contested.
Putin's actually talked about he'd be willing to go to, I think, Slovakia for peace talks with President Trump.
President Trump, I know, is working away on that.
That thing is just a bloody massacre.
Russians hit on Christmas Day with really all types of systems to take down the grid.
So people over there are giving as good as they're getting, but we've got to bring that thing to a conclusion.
Biden, I think, just shipped another $1.5 billion of aid over there.
It's all got to stop.
As you know, we're big advocates for never getting into that, never supporting it, and bringing it to a conclusion.
The same conclusion, quite frankly, is going to happen that would have happened years ago.
That's happening.
Janet Yella has given us a surprise letter to basically put President Trump on notice.
Emergency measures...
And we have no earthly idea if that's accurate or not.
These people have lied from the beginning.
But they're trying to put pressure on President Trump's ability to cut the budget.
So we've got to get on top of all that because that's existential.
Of course, this fight over legal immigration is going to stay intense.
Why is it going to stay intense?
Because we're not backing off.
And people are saying, well, why are you having a fight for things?
Hey, folks.
Remember, this is about the policies and implementing the actions and policies that are going to help turn this country around.
It's just not about an election and winning an election.
It's about what happens after that election.
I would love...
Trust me, I would love to take a couple of months and just go do whatever I want to do.
It's not going to happen.
It can't happen.
We're in a fight, and we're going to win this fight, just like we've won the other fights.
We may have a couple of reversals every now and again, but hey, that's the nature of political warfare.
You don't win them all, but you win the big ones, and you move the chains, and moving the chains we are.
And then, last but not least, Speaker Johnson on the endangered species list, as he should be.
That's all we're going to bring next week is going to be on fire here in the War Room.
Take a short break.
Brad and Raheem are going to help us wrap it all up in a moment.
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Dave Bratt, brother, we've got a couple of minutes.
Thank you for taking the holiday weekend and joining us live.
Wrap up.
Give us a great thought before you punch out.
dave brat
Yeah, unfortunately, not optimistic about the budget process going forward.
Leadership, same as the old boss in Congress when we were in there, ending in a $7 trillion budget, $2 trillion deficits.
We've signed off on that two times in a row now with all the Biden Pelosi woke and weaponized So not optimistic.
They're trying to Trump-proof the economy with Yellen talking about having to raise the debt ceiling because they run out of stimulus pathway that they put in place intentionally to end right about here.
So things are going to tighten a bit.
And so going forward, I hate to say this because President Trump's already put his life at risk, given up everything in his life to be heroic.
But I highly recommend that he put together a contract with America.
The House will not do that.
They don't have the backbone.
They want every individual running on their own.
As always, we cannot win as a country with that plan.
I recommend you start off with issue number one, no more wars without a War Powers Act.
These are 80% issues the American people favor, good for the American citizens.
And he can fill in the blanks on the rest, but he needs to overcome the Trump proofing and overcome Congress in the public opinion.
And he can certainly do that like no one else can.
steve bannon
Dave Bratt, where do people go and get you over the weekend before we get back here on Monday?
dave brat
Yeah, once I get my Warpath coffee, I'm going to completely update X and get moving on to Brad Economics on Getter.
steve bannon
Love you, brother.
Get sharp.
Get focused with that work path coffee.
I love me some deep breath.
Raheem, are you back?
Give us some parting words for the weekend.
What should we be looking for, and where should we go, sir?
No, Raheem.
That's good.
A swing and a miss.
Mike Lindell, brother.
We've had a pretty intense two hours.
I think people need to have a pillow to hug up on.
Sell me a pillow, bro.
mike lindell
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steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Look for you over the weekend, up, and then we're going to have you back here on Monday.
So, thank you.
We're going to be live next week because of the intensity of what is happening.
Speaker vote is going to take place on Friday.
I think they get sworn in on Thursday.
I think I got this right.
Thursday.
Maybe it gets sworn in on Friday.
Then they get a speaker vote.
Debt ceiling going to get into all that.
The debt.
Of course, this fight on immigration is going to take place because, hey, why not?
Let's do it now.
Got to do it now.
Don't delay it.
There's obviously a big difference, a big gulf, and we're not going to see American citizens destroyed.
We challenge the H-1B guys to put up or shut up.
Show us where the excellence is.
Let's see it.
And we're going to walk through the economics of all this.
What does it cost taxpayers?
What does it cost this country?
It is a total and complete scam, and we are committed to destroying the entire program.
That's how enthusiastic we are.
So look, two very strong, different opinions.
Elon said he's going to go to war and things we can't even imagine.
I'm bored already, bro.
Okay, we're going to leave you with the right stuff.
That's what American citizens have.
That's what this country has.
It's made and built upon the right stuff.
That tenacity, that grit, that determination, that focus on exceptionalism and excellence that's gotten us through every fight in the past, it's going to get us through this fight too, folks, as I don't need to tell you.
Okay.
I'm going to be up on social media all weekend and we'll see you back here live at 10 a.m.
Eastern Time, Monday morning.
I want to thank Real America's Voice for doing this today.
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