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Episode 4127: The World Continues Through The Four Turnings
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Turning are like the seasons.
Every turning is necessary.
We've discovered a recurring pattern and implicit in that pattern of generational recurrence the idea of a rhythm, a pattern, a sequence of events that comes around again.
Nature-like cycles.
Cities are founded.
Cities collapse.
States rise.
States fall.
Families can prosper.
Families can wither.
All follow certain repeating cyclical patterns.
We end up inventing new cycles.
So we have the financial market cycle, we have traffic cycles, we have all kinds of modern high-tech cycles which we simply create.
There are four turnings, each one roughly 20 years or so long, so an entire four turnings or a saeculum lasts about 80 to 100 years.
A series of turnings that are launched by a so-called crisis war.
It's a time when there's a lot of genocide, a lot of killing, a lot of starvation, usually a lot of disease.
It's the worst times in history.
And once one of those is over, everybody, both the victors and the losers, make a vow that was so horrible, it should never be allowed to happen again.
That's really the key to understanding what happens next.
The first turning is the high, like the 50s, that comes after the crisis.
It's a period of consolidation.
It's a period of stable families and stable family structures.
Lots of kids are born.
Lots of infrastructure is built.
But emotional life becomes more or less dead and begins to die out.
Baby boomers have no memory of World War II. Their childhood was the American high.
Next comes the awakening.
The perfect little children of the high, like the boom generation, become young adults.
They came of age during that period of rapid social and cultural change when we changed everything about how we felt, how we thought, how we talked, how we dressed.
We changed America's feelings about itself, our moral agenda.
Suddenly, their emotions break out and all hell breaks loose.
This became a generation of great passion, of youth anger that marked a rise at every age in drug use, teen pregnancy, crime, risk-taking, suicide, Then comes the unraveling.
In the awakening, the eternal truths, the verities that are built up in the high, the values, are questioned.
That process accelerates during the unraveling and restraints are broken down in personal life, in economic life, in political life.
Unravelings in America have certain common characteristics.
They tend to be eras of a lot of economic speculation and more and more stronger boom and bust cycles.
For example, line that up with the 1920s or go back to the 1850s in America, go back to the 1760s.
Consider in the 1990s a decade of cynicism and bad manners and public authority seemed to be pretty weak.
you notice repeatedly recurring again these eras that feel very similar.
Now, history teaches that usually third turnings finally issue into a fourth turning.
A fourth turning is the crisis.
And history shows that if an event doesn't trigger a fourth turning, a fourth turning leader will actually encourage one to happen.
Or one will simply hit us because of all the deferred public decisions that weren't made during the recent third turning.
this comes to a head in the fourth turning.
These fourth turnings become new founding moments of our nation's history.
Obviously, one fourth turning was the period of the American Revolution.
Another fourth turning was the Civil War era in which we redefined who we were as a nation.
In World War II and the New Deal, think of everything that changed in that era.
We reestablished mankind's relationship with technology.
Government's relationship with the economy, America's relationship with the world.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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Mega Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Okay, welcome.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's my favorite show of the week, obviously.
Saturday, 14 December, Year of Our Lord, 2024. Right there.
Man, I haven't seen that footage.
I made that film 15 years ago.
I'm really proud of that work, Dave Bossie over at Citizens United.
That is Generation Zero.
It's the framing of the movie.
It talks about the financial crash of 2008. I had made a film.
My first film as a director was In the Face of Evil.
I made a film on Peter Schweitzer's book, Reagan's War.
And I have this theory that if you want to explain the war you're in, you have to take another war to use it as a framework.
Breaker Morant, if you've ever seen that.
Breaker Morant is one of the best films, and it's about the Boer War.
The British Empire is in the Boer War in the late 19th century in South Africa.
And it is a perfect, perfect film to understand Vietnam, America's involvement in Vietnam.
In fact...
Was it the melee crisis of Cali and these guys?
There's an incident like that in Breaker Morant, which is about a bunch of Australians and others in fighting for the empire in South Africa in the 19th century in the Boer War to explain Vietnam.
That's why when I did the...
I wanted to explain and frame for people this long war against radical Islamic Jihad.
And so what I did is take Peter Schweitzer's book that came out in the 80s.
Peter Schweitzer, excuse me, came out in the 90s when the Soviet Union fell.
The archives opened up.
And Schweitzer, who was, I think, at Hoover at the time, or just about to go to Hoover, was a researcher.
He went over in the KGB files and started to look at it.
And he saw, he wrote a book called Reagan's Word, which was looking at Reagan through the eyes of his enemies.
The KGB, of which they thought he was the most dangerous man in America back when he was governor of California.
It wasn't Nixon that concerned him.
It wasn't these other politicians that concerned him.
It was Reagan.
It was always Reagan.
Because they said his words and his deeds are one and the same.
In fact, that's the subtitle of the film.
And what we did is took basically the short 20th century.
We took all the way from 1914 to 1989. We walked through the entire short 20th century of President Reagan and his long journey from the 1930s, the Great Depression, Hollywood, to his leading the effort to destroy the evil empire.
And after I did that, and the film was very successful, won a bunch of awards, made money, but it was very laborious.
I loved it, but it took a ton of time.
You really have to sink yourself into if you're going to write and direct these.
I couldn't find a topic to make another film.
In fact, I... I actually had the book The Singularity come out, and I teamed up with Steve McAveety and the guys that produced The Passion.
McAveety in particular, I was making a movie on essentially the singularity, the transhumanism.
This is in 2006, 2007, 18 years ago.
And I just couldn't put together the financing.
And it was going to be too expensive the way we were going to do it to do it.
I couldn't self-finance it.
But I tried and I really spent a lot of time on that.
We didn't have the rights to the book, the singularity, but it was going to be the construct of it.
And, in fact, the New York Times came out because In the Face of Evil had been so successful and actually did a thing of rising young conservative filmmakers.
I shouldn't say young.
Let me say this.
Rising new conservative filmmakers.
And they had me there at the whiteboard in my production office in Santa Monica, California.
God, does that feel like a million years ago.
Different time.
And I'm sitting on the whiteboard, and I'm actually—because what I would do is I'm very—my films are very structured.
I like the movie—I have a very definitive structure for films, and I do one, and I'm up on the whiteboard with—in fact, McAvita was there.
We were going through the structure.
The New York Times guy was there, did an interview, but I didn't pull it off.
And so I didn't find a topic, because these things you have to put so much of yourself into— Your being.
On the making of a documentary film.
And I've never made it.
I've produced a bunch of narrative films or what you would call movies.
But only written and directed.
I've written up some scripts that have been picked up for other films.
In fact, I'm in the Writers Guild.
I think I paid my dues.
But documentaries, when you direct them, you've got to put it on.
I didn't find another topic until the financial crash.
When the crash happened, when Lehman was put in a bankruptcy that weekend of September, I think the morning was September 15th in London.
It was a Monday.
And given my investment banking experience, and still really my day job was finance, was being a financial advisor, an investment banker, raising money for companies, doing a lot of restructuring, a lot of bankruptcy work.
We're trying to, you know, in these companies trying to salvage what you can, a lot of film work, a lot of bankruptcy work in the film business, right?
There was a ton of independent companies that raised a ton of money and then went bankrupt or had problems with their creditors, I guess is a better way to say it.
It was 2008. And in 2008, because I looked at it through the perspective of my dad, and this was really where the populism and nationalism really came to the forefront in looking at it as a way to look at the world.
My dad had been in a phone company.
He just died a couple of years ago, passed away a couple of years ago, over at a hundred years and four months, I think it was.
He was a child of the Great Depression in that Third turning, they talk about there, the Great Depression and World War II. And he held stock in AT&T. And the stock in AT&T was almost as important to him as his Catholic Church.
And he was a devout Catholic.
Very devout Catholic.
An old school Catholic.
And...
When I saw this, I said, there has to be a frame to do it.
And I had been reading this book.
I'd read this book about this thing called The Fourth Turning and about generational history.
And Neil Howell was the surviving author.
There was two authors written back in the 90s.
And he was a surviving author.
And I sat down with him and I went through it and I go, wow, this is the framing device for the movie.
So right there you saw a section.
What I did is I started with actually the financial crisis.
What I like to do is start my films with a big bang and draw you in there and kind of slap you upside the head.
You know, welcome to the NFL. When I start my films, grab you and then pull you into the film and then go back and kind of set the framework for the film, whether it's opening title credits or however I do it.
It's just my house style.
And by the way, let me make a picture.
Government gangsters go to War Room Films.
I'm starting to rev back up the film business.
One, because I just miss that creative side of it.
I mean, I'm busy.
I don't have any time to breathe, but I just miss the creative.
It's a different element.
That I don't get on anything else I do.
It actually stretches me creatively and makes me think.
And I enjoy it a lot, and I've got a great team.
Dan Floyd, who did the book, and we should pitch the book, The Pictorial History of the War Room, is also been my line producer, I think, on every film.
And Dan, who's tremendously creative.
You can tell by the reason the photography of my films is so great, has nothing to do with me.
I'm not a photographer.
I'm not a DP, a director of photography.
I have Matthew Taylor.
I always have great cameramen.
The films always look stunning because of Dan and the work there.
So go check out the book.
But right there, you saw the framing.
And you know what?
When you see it, how many documentaries do you know or how many films you know are 15 years old and look like they were just made yesterday?
I mean, I'm really proud.
Filmmaking is the team sport.
And they have this auteur theory that it's John Ford or, you know, William Wyler or, in a small thing, Stephen K. Bannett.
It's not.
It's a team.
Now, the director kind of puts the team together.
But, man, filmmaking is a collective, creative enterprise.
That is from Generation Zero, I think in the year 2010. I made it in...
I started writing it right at the crash.
I started writing it in 2008. In fact, that first week of the crash, I said, something's going on here.
I started jotting down notes every day and working out the structure, talked to my dad, talked to everybody.
And then the very first person I filmed...
It was in May, around Memorial Day of 2009. It took me that long to put the financing together and put it together.
The first person I filmed was the great Andrew Breitbart.
For three hours.
And not one second made it into the film.
Stirring that later, we're going to talk about fourth turnings.
Got a special guest next in the world.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
Okay, welcome back.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
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That film was made 15 years ago during the early days of the financial crash, and we didn't know where this was headed, but I've said the time.
What happened in the Oval Office on, I think, the 7th, so the 15th was a Monday, so that'd be the 16th was a Tuesday, the 17th was a Wednesday, the 18th.
In the Oval Office, when they went up and saw it, and this is how the film starts, they go to see Bush, And they say, hey, look, this thing happened.
We didn't realize Lehman Brothers was the center of the commercial paper market.
All the companies in the country are going bankrupt.
They don't have cash.
The financial system is collapsing.
If it collapses 72 hours later, the world financial system will collapse.
You'll have global chaos and anarchy.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Bush said, hey, we read the Constitution.
You've got to go see Nancy Pelosi.
They went up to Nancy Pelosi, they fused it with a trillion dollars of cash, and Bob's your uncle.
That was the beginning of the salvation of the system.
Screwed you, because you didn't get bailed out.
You paid for the bailout.
Birchgold.com, you know, what is it, 16 years later, it ain't been solved.
We're still dealing with that.
We're still dealing with the impact of the solution, the negative interest rates.
It stayed for zero and created the greatest concentration of wealth in America's history.
Yep, that's what happened.
President Obama, the most progressive president in the country's history, was also the guy that came up with a solution set that led to the greatest concentration of wealth.
I know it's hard for you to handle that, progressives, but now that he's kind of not the flavor of the month, he gave his speech the other day.
I don't know about reconciliation.
It was something.
It was a bizarre speech.
It was flat.
Let's say this.
Obama, for Democrats, he's just not into you.
He doesn't care anymore.
He's kind of moved on.
He's a Netflix filmmaker.
Birchgold.com, you can understand how gold has been a hedge and why it's a hedge.
Why it's a hedge against times of financial turbulence.
I don't know, for 5,000 years, seems a pretty good checking, right?
The world is an efficient market, as we say at the Harvard Business School.
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Those are going to be out, I think, by Monday or Tuesday for dissemination.
Promulgating it next week.
Go to your phone, Ben, at 989898. Bob McGuffey joins us.
An individual has taken upon himself to kind of think through the fourth turn.
He got an amazing article.
And Bob, thanks for thinking I'm going to send it to me because I've been wanting to do and have a reason to kind of go back and look at the fourth turn.
I'm a big believer in the cyclical nature of the history.
And hey, it just so happens, Nancy Pelosi gets hurt at the 80th anniversary, and we're going to do it on Monday, which is the beginning of the 80th anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge, every Christmas.
On Christmas Day, Patrick K. O'Donnell, we've done this now for, I think, 10 or 12 years.
We do the Combat History at Christmas, and part of it, obviously we do Trenton and Cross the Devil, but a big part of it is the Battle of the Bulge.
80th anniversary, gosh, that kind of fits into the every 80 to 100 years.
So, Bob, walk us through the turnings, why you're fascinated with it in this latest article, which you say, hey, you think we're coming up with a resolution phase.
unidentified
Yeah.
Indeed.
Thanks for having me on again, Steve.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, I read The Fourth Turning back in the mid-teens, and I'm like an amateur historian.
I've been into this for like 50 years, and I knew there was a cyclical nature to the history we lived through.
And Strauss and Howe actually laid it out, and they looked back in Anglo-American history for About 500 years, and they went back to the 16th century and looked forward and saw that history goes through cycles.
80 to 100 years, they go through a high, an awakening, an unraveling, and then a crisis, inevitably driven by the generations.
So to fast forward, so people can relate to this, the big crises were the American Revolution, the Civil War, and then the most recent one was the Depression in World War II. That was the last crisis.
And our parents drove through that, the greatest generation.
And what happens after the crisis?
I mean, there are forces that come together that force the crisis in society.
And they have to get resolved one way or another.
It's not always a war.
But they have to get resolved.
And the great good fortune of America and really the Free West after World War II was the great prosperity we had, what they call the high in the book.
And people believe in their institutions again and life is good.
Everybody's focused on good things and building prosperity.
And we certainly had that here in the U.S. And then it goes through what they call an awakening.
And new ideas, the baby boomer generation and the new ideas they put forward start getting adopted by the ruling class, and usually too many of them do, and they don't work.
Some may, but many of them don't.
And after that awakening and the inculcation of the new ideas, so you're going out of the 60s now, from the 50s to the 60s.
Coming out of the 60s, your whole counter-revolution that we all saw, anti-Vietnam, anti-Nixon, anti-war, women's rights, good thing.
But the others in the mix were creating problems.
But they get adopted by the society.
Reagan came along.
And try to put us back on those good foundational grounds again, foundational institutions, foundational values.
And so the American left had picked up and driven a lot of the challenges to society coming out of the 60s and got an awful lot of publicity on that.
Everybody knew they were on a march.
Reagan seemed to vanish them.
And myself and my co-author of the book, we said, Jesus, he's really vanished, vanquished them from the field.
But they just went under the rocks and came back out again.
In the 90s, Clinton came in and basically gave them air and breathing, money and air space, breathing space.
But he was not a cultural culturist himself.
But they germinated and came into full bloom against George Bush after the 2000 election.
And so the guys that wrote The Fourth Turning wrote it in 97. They said we're in unraveling and we're going into a crisis in the middle of the next decade.
That would be the aughts.
And sure enough, we always thought there would be a reckoning with the American left.
And since they came back, we knew that would happen.
And boom, the financial crisis.
And what happens after the financial crisis?
Enough patriotic Americans come out and see that, you know, we've been ripped off.
What is this?
The creation of money, the bailouts.
Nobody held accountable.
Nobody held accountable in the banks.
And so what happened?
The Tea Party's formed.
You know, the country elected the most leftist socialist president we've ever seen.
We knew it.
So the Tea Party hits the street.
And that is really the beginning of the fourth turning.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But this happens to be the fourth turning in American history from the Revolution to the Civil War to World War II, the Great Depression War II. But it's also in the cycle itself, it's the fourth.
However, the most socialist, you know, all the things you refer to him, he did his response to this, to the crisis, was basically the same as Roosevelt's to the crisis of the Great Depression.
Roosevelt saved capitalism.
He saved it with a regulatory apparatus.
And Obama saved the American version of elite capitalism, finance capitalism, by going against – and if you read the books, he just didn't understand it.
There's a couple of fantastic books.
It was above him.
He was a constitutional lawyer, and it was Geithner, and it was Bernanke.
In particular, that did this, came up with this plan in the way they were structured to basically do the bailouts.
Nobody in this audience has got a bailout.
We've only got a couple minutes left.
I've got to bounce.
Tell me the article.
Why do you say this is the resolution phase?
unidentified
Well, it has to resolve.
Many of our neighbors who understand something's wrong think this is just choppy water, but it has to resolve.
In that when we come out of the other side of the resolution, things will be different.
Trump's election, I contend, represents the starting gun of the resolution.
It will not be the same when he's finished in office.
But it is not up to him.
The point of my article is that everybody has to put their shoulder to the wheel.
We have to reform academia, social media, broadcast media, entertainment, politics.
Our institutions have to be reset on their foundation, refocused.
We have to get, for lack of a better term, the woke out of everything that's been put in.
It's all a Marxist agenda.
And if we want to make this a success, Trump picked the ball up and crossed the finish line.
But he's symbolic.
He's going to take the actions from his roost, but he can't do it alone.
He's not going to get...
Drag Queen Story Hour out of your library.
He's not.
We have to.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We have to.
Bob, where do people go to get all your writings on this?
I know you've written a couple of books on this.
You're writing articles all the time.
I want to make sure people get full access to this and start to think through the framework of the fraternity.
unidentified
SeventhCrisis.com spelled out is the website for the book.
The book is called The Seventh Crisis.
Still a great read.
We give good advice as to what's going to happen in there.
And I'm on X, I'm on at Bob McGuffey.
So that's where you can find me there.
I did a congressional run in a primary last year, earlier this year.
Didn't get through the primary, but I'm still active here in Canada.
That's okay.
We're trying to turn Connecticut in.
But, you know, enough of us want to do it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Good luck with that.
Good luck with that.
Good luck.
People keep pitching me.
They call me Bannon.
You've had a place up there.
Come on.
Connecticut's just on the brink.
I go, no, it's not.
I love the focus.
There's a lot of, there's tons of Patriots, but you're at about 43 to 45 percent.
That can't get us quite across.
Bob, thank you so much.
We'll put up everything.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Birchgold.com.
If you believe in the theory of the turnings, then you believe in gold.
You believe that it's a hedge.
Gold's been on a run.
That's not normally what it's supposed to do, but it's been doing it.
Birchgold.com slash Bannon.
End of the Dollar Empire.
Go check it out today.
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unidentified
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War room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
One of the things about turnings in the study of history in this regard, if you look at the framework, is that people who seem marginal at the beginning, particularly in the fourth where the crisis hits, people who are kind of marginalia or not to the center of the world, Of the event.
The ones that become main players always start way off stage as kind of insignificant.
Like you.
You're the common man and woman.
You're totally insignificant when it looks at America.
Oh, you're insignificant.
You're insignificant.
No.
This is the thing about populism and populist nationalism.
It has a spiritual and a redemptive quality to it against the elites to redeem your country.
In that power, and that power is, and we're not socialists, we're not communists, but we understand collective action was not World War II collective action, was not the Civil War collective action, was not the Revolution collective action.
Yes, you have individuals, but it's not, you don't do it with Rambos.
That's just not the way it works.
In fact, look at the films.
Look at Sergeant York with Gary Cooper.
Look at the movie Sergeant York about the great hero of World War I, Sergeant York.
You can't get any more marginal than that brother from the backwoods of Tennessee.
Just a total cracker.
I mean a hick.
Look at the power of him becoming the main senator to World War I. Look in the Civil War.
You know, William Tecumseh Sherman, they thought he was insane.
Put him in an insane asylum.
Because he said, hey, you're going to have...
I think it's what LSU is today.
He had the military academy down there.
He was from Ohio.
His brother was a U.S. senator.
And he said, hey...
These people are so crazy.
These people are so arrogant.
These people are so tough.
These people are so focused and the culture is so inbred in them.
You're going to have to, don't worry about armies, you're going to have to burn the South to the ground before they will surrender.
And he went and saw Lincoln.
I think he was in the White House.
I think it was in Hayes' memoirs.
He was in the White House in the first, like, 60 days when people were just coming in and, you know, talking to Lincoln.
And Lincoln heard it out and said, man, that brother is crazy.
They put him way out west.
And I think six months later, he's in the, like, equivalent of an insane asylum.
But they sent him home because he had a nervous breakdown.
People who are at the margins become in and become main players.
And that's one of the interesting things.
Abel Gonza's movie Napoleon, which don't compare...
The movie Napoleon came out, unfortunately, that was not the best.
But Abel Gonza, a silent film, I think it's three hours long, and Francis Ford Coppola, 20 or 30 years ago, brought it back, redid it, or put it back in, put it together, because it's done on like three screens, and had his father write an orchestra score.
I saw it in Radio City Music Hall when it premiered, and I think I went every night for the week it was there or the two weeks it was there.
I was absolutely mesmerized by the film.
It blew me away.
And where Napoleon comes onto the scene, Is where I think Marat and Robespierre, they're in the General Assembly, and it's all in black and white.
I know how those films kind of look so real.
And you've got these guys running around.
These guys are up there in the French Revolution.
They're yelling and screaming and carting people off and cutting heads off.
And Napoleon comes in, and it's just the camera pans.
And he's just like a lieutenant or a captain of artillery leaning into the back and completely and totally irrelevant.
Irrelevant.
He's irrelevant to everything that's going on.
He's just irrelevant.
He doesn't matter.
He's just some French army junior officer.
And then you see the course of history and his sticking, you know, coming in at certain moments.
The film only goes up to the Italian campaign.
Abel Gonza was going to make a three-part film and ran out of money.
It was the Great Depression.
It was a silent film, too.
Powerful.
One of the most powerful parts is the entry of Napoleon because he's complete Grundun.
As many of you have been Grunduns.
You're not Grunduns any longer.
No, trust me.
You are not considered a Grundun by the powers that be to run the imperial capital.
That I can guarantee you.
Fourth turning, we'll get into more of that as we go on.
So much is happening.
Obviously, this is the whole thing about the Democrats.
The institutions must be rejuvenated.
Some must be taken down.
It has to be transparent.
Some have to be destroyed.
I happen to think the FBI is one of them.
Maybe the CIA had to be reconstituted, reformed.
The vitality of it must be put back in its task and its purpose.
Peter McIlvaney joins me from England.
Peter, one thing I've admired about you is the way that you've on your show have kept up and stay on top of particularly developments and particularly not just the political developments, but always the undertone is to look at what's happening in England.
Through a lot of the perspective of just the rise of radical Islam inside of England.
I keep saying it's the wolf.
It's very equivalent to slavery in the United States.
Not that it's slavery.
It's not equivalent to what slavery was.
But Jefferson made a comment early on when they were debating the Declaration of Independence and slavery came up.
He said it was like having a wolf.
That slavery was like having a wolf by the jaws.
You know, eventually you were going to have to let go and that wolf was going to eat you.
You see that in your coverage in England of Nigel Farage and Brexit and now the new Reform Party and always at the subtome that, hey, something demographically has happened with us.
And I saw last week where the number one name throughout a lot of England is now Mohammed.
And you kind of predicted this.
But I've been pretty fascinated recently that you're spending a lot of time on something that deals with the United States and really with entrepreneurs.
Why don't you walk through?
Because this has kind of gone under the radar scope.
I've been wanting to cover this for a couple of weeks and just couldn't find a time.
To get it in.
And I thought today on Saturday it would be fantastic.
So walk us through what you've been covering and why this is important.
Why is this worthy of the war room posses, particularly the entrepreneurs in this audience and the people that are looking for the tax cuts for business and for entrepreneurs?
Why is this important?
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼
Well, I've been covering this process at the beginning of October, and it's the Corporate Transparency Act.
The great news was today or yesterday that Vivek Ramaswamy put up a tweet on this.
And this is massive federal government overreach.
In fact, I would go probably as far as to say it's probably the most aggressive domestic spying program since the Patriot Act.
And what it is, vetoed by President Trump, President Trump saw this for what he was and it was he vetoed it.
It was part of the National Defense Authorization Act in 2019.
He vetoed it because he saw the danger to small businesses and the Capitol Hill pushed it through the next month in effect.
And what it means is that every small business owner, every business owner, 32 million business owners in America must register with FinCEN.
And FinCEN is the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.
FinCEN was set up in the 90s for, according to their website, to combat domestic and international money laundering and terrorist financing.
What has this got to do with small businesses unless the federal government are saying the small businesses are terrorist financing or money laundering?
That's what it seems to be.
So they brought in this legislation so that you register your business at the state level.
But the federal government have decided they want all that information.
They want your personal data.
You must upload that.
So they passed this, the Corporate Transparency Act, demanding you pass over all your information and register it on a brand new database on FinCEN.
Remember, FinCEN sits under the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.
I think in the UK, if my God was asking me to register on a terrorism website, in effect, that would ring alarm bells.
But this is what's happened under the radar with up to two years in jail.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hang on.
But hang on, Peter.
Peter, hang on one second.
Is this already passed and it's a law and Biden signed it?
Or is this something they hope to jam through in the lame duck to get it done before?
Is this something that is actually a law and they're enforcing it?
Or is this something they propose to get through in the final days of this lame duck?
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼
This is a law and every business owner must sign up to this.
So the concern was President Trump is elected.
And actually, what does he do to stop this?
Because already legislation, if you don't register by the 1st of January on this database, then you'll be hit.
You can be hit by fines of up to two years in jail and $591 a day, I think it is.
But just last week, a Texas court ruled this was unconstitutional and has completely stopped this.
But the battle is not over.
This was stopped.
The court stated that companies are not required to comply with the CTA's January 1st deadline.
And the CTN is implementing rules may not be enforced.
But this is a preliminary injunction.
It's not the final ruling.
So it's a stay of execution.
And of course, Biden is going to do all he can do to push this through before the 1st of January.
And my concern is that what happens, is this an attack on conservative companies?
Is this actually seeking that information to target conservative companies?
That's my big concern.
But my second big concern is...
Let me actually say that I know a good friend of the War Room, Senator Tommy Tuberville.
He, along with Senator Warren Davison, are the two who have opposed this.
And they actually brought in legislation called the Big Brother Overreach Bill.
And they're going to be pushing this.
And Senator Warren Davison said the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network is violating the personal privacy of American business owners by forcing them to disclose sensitive information.
This must be repealed.
And Senator Tommy Tuberville said the Corporate Transparency Act has big government overreach at its worst.
The Biden Treasury Department is attempting to create a database on every American business owner.
This is frightening, what they're trying to push with these fines.
And the concern is that on the right, that we say, well, we have to be law-abiding citizens.
And this is for just an industry helping individuals actually go through the process and apply.
But it's no role of the federal government.
For you to pass your details on of your company that you've registered at the state level.
And Vivek put up that this will take up to 11 hours of work.
So the industry has been built up to generate money for a whole industry on the back of this.
But there's another part of it, which is where does the information go?
So FinCEN is part of a worldwide company.
Data sharing grouping.
It's a member of the Egmont Group, and that serves as the United States Financial Intelligence Unit.
There are 177 international financial intelligence units.
And the EGMA group is based in, started in Brussels, and is based in Canada.
And the Canadian equivalent had a massive data leak earlier this year.
Who knows where that information has gone?
So you, as a business owner, need to register with this new terrorism database.
If you don't, you'll be fined.
You're possibly jailed.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We're going to have you back on early in the week to get on top of this.
Where do they go?
It's Saturday, so where do they go to find you over the weekend?
Because I can already tell you from the chat, heads are blowing up.
I've wanted to get on this story.
Now I realize why we wanted to get on it.
Peter, where do people get you over the weekend and get your show?
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼
On Saturday, it will be 3pm Eastern Time with Damani Felder, the great Damani Felder, who I got to meet just recently, an American patriot down in Texas, streaming at 3pm at Hearts of Oak UK on Twitter, at Hearts of Oak everywhere else.
Or, of course, you can just watch it on War Room, on Rumble and Getter.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We have it up all the time.
Okay, Peter, we'll get you back on early next week.
My head's already blown up.
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Wow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Corporate Transparency Act.
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Wow.
Short break. Short break. Short break. Short break.
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, next hour, Cleo Pascal and Colonel Grant Neusom are going to be in studio with me for We're going to break down one thing I don't also think we're focusing enough on, and this is the Chinese Communist Party in the Third World War.
Folks, we're in it, as I've been saying.
World War II started in 1935 in Manchuria with the Imperial Japanese Army and the Chinese.
We didn't get into it, the shooting part of the kinetic part, until this late 1941, really 1942. Because it was right before Christmas in 1941. The war had been going on for six years.
In fact, I would make the argument that the German army, the winter, they started invading Russia in June of 1941. By Christmas, a lot of the smart German guys in the Wehrmacht were saying, hey, look, this winter is going to eat us up.
We started too late, and this is not good, and I don't think we're going to beat these people.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Which have been a high watermark of the war.
And we were just getting to the kinetic part and all the brutality, all the deaths, everything that happened to America after that.
So that's what I want to get on top of the CCP thing.
So they're going to join me here in studio.
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Mike's normally in the factory floor on Saturdays.
We're lucky to get him.
Mike Lindell, sell me a pillow, brother.
mike lindell ▲ ● ▼
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, brother.
Appreciate you, and we'll see you on Monday.
If the IRS has not shut you down by then.
Okay, man.
Talk to you.
Mike Lindell.
Okay, we're going to go out with St. John the Evangelist.
St. John the Evangelist and a cover of Johnny Cash's Magnificent When the Man Comes Around.
It's Billy Strings.
I'm glad we're introducing Billy Strings to a whole different audience.
Probably you'll never hear him.
Just a magnificent musician.
We're going to do When the Man Comes Around.
The Book of Revelation provides the lyrics.
Johnny Cash provided the tune.
Billy Strings.
Next, on Army-Navy weekend, we're going to talk about the war that we're in.
The dispositive question of the 21st century.
Everything geopolitically should fall in it.
Is the Chinese Communist Party going to win or the American Republic?
We're going to try to begin the answer to that question on a Saturday in the War Room.
Short commercial break.
Stick around.
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Hear the trumpets, hear the piper.
One hundred million singers.
Runs to the marches through the big kettle drum.
Voices calling, voices crying.
Some are born and some are dying.
It's Alpha and Omega's kingdom power.
And the whirlwind is in the thorn tree.
The virgins are trimming their wigs.
The whirlwind is in the palm trees.
It's hard for thee to kick against the bricks.
Till Armageddon, no shalom, no shalom.
Then the Father will he call his chickens home.
The wise men will bow down before the throne and at his feet will cast the golden crowns when the man comes around.
Whoever is unjust, let him be unjust still.
Whoever is righteous, let him be righteous still.
Whoever is filthy, let him be filthy still.
Listen to the words written down when a man cuddles around.
Hear the trumpets, hear the piper.
One hundred million angels sing in.
Multitudes are marching to the big hill drum.
Voices calling, and voices crying.
Sons and song, and some have died.
Salfa and Omega's kingdom come.
And the whirlwind is in the dawn shrieking.
The virgins all are trimming their wicks.
The whirlwind is in the country.
It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
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