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Dec. 4, 2024 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4101: Spector Of Trump

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alex degrasse

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joy reid ▲ ● ▼		is looking to link up with a far-left party to take over the country.
		We are in the age of global gangsterism, the age folks like Vladimir Putin have planned for decades.
		Look at this map.
		It reflects an alarming worldwide trend on the rise in autocracy.
		These are the countries who had elections this year based on their democracy grade by The Economist.
		Those colored in blue are authoritarian.
		Those colored in yellow are hybrid regimes.
		And those colored in red, including the United States, are deemed flawed democracies.
unidentified		Look, first of all, don't put me in a corner where I never went.
		I am not saying the Democratic Party is finished and needs to be rebuilt from scratch.
		You've been talking about some historical parallels.
		I would draw an analogy and Joe, you remember to 1968 when Richard Nixon barely defeated the incumbent vice president who had taken over for the incumbent president who had withdrawn from the race.
		That was a really close election, but it signaled a change, a big change, which was the end, really, of New Deal liberalism.
		It didn't happen all at once.
		It took maybe 12 years until Ronald Reagan swept it away in 1980.
		But that's that's where I'm looking more a trend, which is a trend toward populism, right wing populism.
		It's a global phenomenon.
		It's yes, Mika, you're right.
		It's been coming in this country for eight years.
		But the fact that Donald Trump won again, despite being pretty unpopular, despite having tried to overthrow an election, despite being a convicted felon, tells me that that trend, that sentiment in the public to to get rid of old institutions, to that sentiment in the public to to get rid of old institutions, to overthrow it's a really strong one.
		Strong enough to re-elect this, I would say, degenerate felon.
		And Democrats would be foolish not to look at that and say, we may be defending a status quo that the country has had enough of.
		How do you think about the cost-benefit analysis here?
		Of course it worries me.
		It has to worry any sensible thinking person to argue for breaching norms that have guided our country for 250 years.
		On the other hand, I don't think that democratic self-restraint is what is going to stop Trump from acting.
		If, in the end, Trump and the Republican majority think that the filibuster is a barrier to whatever it is that they want, for example, they're going to get rid of it anyway.
		Whether or not the Democrats had done so in the prior Congress.
		And so it strikes me as essential to begin trying to take steps that can't be reversed or irreversible steps in defense of, say, voting rights, for example.
		Expanding the franchise, guaranteeing federally against state interference.
		You would still have to contend, obviously, with the Supreme Court.
		But for two years, the Democrats had a majority.
		In both houses, and instead of doing Transgressive, normative things like changing the electoral rules to prevent Trump's cheating.
		They did normal Democratic things.
		They passed the Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Act and all good things, I'm sure, from their perspective.
		But they thought that that would be how to reclaim America, and it turned out they were wrong.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified		Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified		MAGA media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Wednesday, 4 December in the year of our Lord, 2024.
		You saw right there from the cold open the rhetoric on the...
		I don't want to say totally defeated, but at least the beaten progressive left is getting more and more not just nervous, kind of outrageous.
		They're talking about the populist nationalist movement and painting us as an autocratic movement.
		You know, we just beat them fair and square using...
		Not just democratic principles, but democratic processes and procedures.
		That's not good enough for them.
		And I've preached this over and over again, that defeating them at the ballot box on the existing rules that they have out there, they will never accept that.
		They had the notification project when President Trump won in 2016. They immediately started That morning, we won at like 2.30 in the morning on the 9th of November.
		The election was on the 8th.
		The nullification project started.
		Remember, we had like 5 or 10,000 people in the pink hats, many of them in the pink hats, many of them women.
		Kind of the most radical part of the Hillary Clinton brigade.
		Outside on Fifth Avenue that stayed there the entire time.
		Police put up barricades.
		Police brought in the riot horses for the entire time.
		They didn't go right.
		That was the beginning of what I call the nullification project.
		Later we found out, obviously, the FBI had already been in the CIA. FBI had already been, you know, listening to people, wiretapping certain people, going and getting FISA warrants, all of it from earlier in the year.
		Because the apparatus, the dark star, the empire, saw these rebels and people that disagreed with them as being unacceptable to kind of take power.
		And so that began the Comey situation with the phony report they gave President Trump that then was leaked to the press about everything and all this phony stuff that happened in Moscow.
		Just on and on and on.
		Eventually led to the Mueller investigation, continued straight forward.
		Now we know from Biden's pardon, the thing they're most concerned about is the early days of that.
		Pardon goes all the way back to January of 2014, the color revolution, make them move on Ukraine to get another client state, to keep the money flowing to the arms merchants, everything that's going on in Ukraine.
		Now they're equating the populist revolt worldwide, and even as we speak, we'll have them a little on later in the show, you have, I think the government of France will be falling today, the parliamentary part of it.
		Le Pen is holding out.
		It's a very important lesson for us.
		This was yesterday's Wall Street Journal.
		I was briefly able to show you, show you right there.
		That's the cover.
		It's about Le Pen.
		More action is happening today.
		And this fight is very important for you to understand because Macron and the centrists are worried about the budget deficits.
		And the budget deficit in France, as Jason Trennan said yesterday, is over 6%.
		I think it's 6.5%, 7%.
		They've got to get it down to, they're trying to get it down to 3%.
		In trying to get it down to a sustainable budget deficit that the country can finance going forward, the cuts have to be made.
		Dramatic cuts have to be made.
		And right now in France, the neoliberal neocons have offered up that it's going to come out of the hide of working class people.
		Whatever name they're using now has said no.
		That's not going to happen.
		We're going to take it out of payments to the EU. We're going to take it out of payments to institutions in the EU. We're going to take it out of all this activity we do in Africa, in North Africa, in the Middle East.
		Right now France is up to its eyeballs in the situation in Lebanon and Syria where they have a Traditional colonial interest.
		She wants it all out of there.
		So dramatic is this fight that the government may fall.
		In South Korea, martial law tries to get into it.
		And remember, the president of South Korea came in as a hardline anti-CCP. And Korea, South Korea particularly, has been a terrific ally of the United States, a stable ally of the United States.
		Particularly in this fight against the Chinese Communist Party, but the Korean business culture and society is deeply infiltrated by the CCP. And the president hasn't been the most, I would say, steady Eddie.
		Every now and again he does things that you sit there and go, it's a little strange, a little outrageous.
		Tried to declare martial law the other day, that's voted down.
		Total chaos, total turmoil.
		President Trump, as they say, and they go, oh, it's an autocratic movement.
		Now, the last guy, Rosencrantz, I'm going to try to get other cuts later.
		He was on last night, and the rhetoric they're using, what they're putting out is, hey, we should have taken all this time in the interregnum.
		Because this is what's so interesting.
		He understands and he implies that they know that Trump won the 2020 election.
		Because he talks about the specter of Trump as something that would return.
		And he chastises, and this is a Bush guy.
		I think it's from Bush 43. He chastises the political class, the political establishment in Washington for not...
		Trump proofing the institutions more for the return of the populist nationalists.
		And he says at the beginning of the interview, hey, I thought that Trump was just an aberration.
		That it was just a passing thing in 16. And now I think it's a phenomenon.
		That's a quote from his.
	We'll try to cut that and get that a little later.
	Now it's a phenomenon.
	And it's a movement.
	And it's a movement that is not going away.
	And that we have to make the institutions and the power of the government hermetically sealed from this movement.
	This is why my mantra has been from the beginning here, after we won the election November 5th, is that people have to focus on seizing control of the institutions.
	We are fighting people that defend the system that's not defensible.
	We are fighting people that are part of the cartel and the apparatus, the dark star, that control this government and in controlling the government, essentially with the oligarchs on Wall Street and in Silicon Valley, control the country.
	That fight is continual.
	This is why you see in these nominees a Pete Hegseth Is someone who will bring dramatic change to the warmongers at the Pentagon.
	Pete Hex has put out a tweet this morning with his compatriots fighting in an earlier war.
	Pete's in combat gear and he says, hey, I'm for the war fighters, not for the warmongers.
	To have a no secretary of defense has ever used the word warmonger.
	And they're all, you know...
	In meltdown in Washington.
	This morning Pete's mom came on Fox and Friends, sat on the curvy couch to make a defense of her son.
	But they're in shock and they intend to defeat Pete Hegseth and to cull him from the herd.
	I have both behind the scenes and in last night the speech I gave at Club 47. I want to thank the folks there.
	I'll talk a little bit more about that later.
	We have to go all in on Pete.
	Like I said, President Trump gets to have his picks.
	Now, what is quite discomforting, and this is where you've got to get it back to, what in the hell is going on?
	You've got to get organized in Mar-a-Lago.
	The president's got too much burden on him.
unidentified		And last night it was leaked.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Ron DeSantis is now.
		They're looking at Ron DeSantis, maybe.
		It was strong enough a leak that certain news organizations ran with it that have contacts that they can trust.
		I'm not saying Ron DeSantis is going to get it, but I'm saying if you're putting out the name of Joni Ernst and what, Brother Colby, the anti-CCP guy, and Hagerty, and the governor, DeSantis, all of a sudden people are going to say, hey, maybe it's not DeSantis, all of a sudden people are going to say, hey, maybe it's not a
		Well, in our War Room universe, there is a commitment to Pete Hexas because he's the designated secretary of defense, and he stands for immediate and dramatic change.
		you Now, if that's not the case, somebody ought to get, you know, notification of the front lines, the folks in the trenches that...
		And we're going down a slippery slope.
		The DEA sheriff, who was clearly not with the MAGA program, that was so obvious that he stepped down because he wasn't going to get much support.
		He stepped down and said, hey, I thank you for the offer, but I didn't do it.
		Gates, Hexeth, these are all taking a political toll.
unidentified		They just are.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's like you're spending your political capital.
		And we have to concentrate.
		We have tremendous political capital from the victory.
		Anyway, short commercial break.
		We're going to be back in the warm just a moment.
		We're going to talk about, a little later, the seats being stolen out in California.
		Next.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Um...
		So we've got a lot to get to.
		By the way, a...
		United Healthcare CEO at 6.45 a.m.
		this morning.
		Just a block or two, a couple blocks up from the Fox News studios right there on 6th Avenue in Midtown Manhattan at the Hilton Hotel.
		We're outside the Hilton in Midtown.
		The Hilton, I might add, that we had the victory party.
		Started as a watch party, turned into a victory party, President Trump 2016. A place we would use a lot.
		I think UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down, dead, shot in the chest.
		And it looks like a targeted, they're saying right now, targeted hit, not a random event.
		So more to come on that as we know more.
		Alex DeGrasse joins me.
		Alex, I've got a lot to go through about...
		The resistance that's already building in the Democratic Party.
		There's resistance in the Republican Party.
		There's a huge article.
		I talked a little bit about this last night in my speech.
		How the Senate can hold sway in the age of Trump.
		Pardon my notes to myself there.
		That's the first time I think our paper of record has used the phrase, age of Trump.
		The age of Trump, like the age of Jackson.
		But this talks about the Senate being the, since the Democrats are not going to be able to do it, the Senate with John Thune and Mitch McConnell being a break on the populist nationalist movement by going back to traditional kind of Republican policies and the types of people they want in.
		They're respectable Republicans, not Trump's kind of Avengers.
		But there's also a situation in the House, and you had been on, I think, a couple weeks ago, right after the election, when they were still being counted, and people couldn't figure out why some of these things were still being counted in these House races.
		And you said, hey, look, worst case, some of these things are in play.
unidentified		I think we'd be in pretty good shape.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But worst case, we could be at 220 to 215. I think we hit your worst case.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Am I correct in that?
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		Kind of upsetting, but I think it's important for people to understand that it's – which we've spoken about, Steve, for years on the show, right?
		State laws, state courts.
		These are state issues.
		Of course, we look at federal angles when we try to protect this stuff.
		California is the worst of the worst, probably, I guess, worst than New York.
		And, I mean, legally, per their laws, right, you can – Continue to find ballots with no postmarks for up over even, I think, seven days or up to seven days after the election.
		The fact that we have racists called one month after the fact, all of them called in the opposite direction of us.
		And we had people curing it.
		I mean, it's it's disgusting.
		And worst case, we really need to use this moment to educate the American people and voters about what the deal is.
unidentified		Hang on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on a second.
		I got to understand this.
		Because this goes back to Mark Elias.
		And, you know, Mark Elias says, hey, War Room's obsessed with me.
		We're living rent-free.
		No, we're charging you, but, you know, you're a demonic.
		Is this just Mark Elias?
		I don't get, and I understand you got states.
		How can we just be counting ballots weeks after an election ends?
		And you tell me in California, I think it was three seats, how do you all of a sudden ballots keep coming?
		And, you know, Two-thirds of the ballots are Democrat and one-third are Republican.
		And so eventually you overturn.
		I mean, this is 2020 all over again.
		So how does this work?
unidentified		And I take it – give me the specifics.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Are these postmarked?
		Are they signed?
		Because it seems to the average person that ballots just continue to get generated and come in out of everywhere – And these local Democrat officials count them up, and as soon as you're beating a Republican, hey, election's called, we're all done, no more ballots.
		Is that too simplistic to say?
		Because these look like they were stolen.
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		I've spoken to Republicans that are not Trump guys, right?
		These are real establishment, old-time hands that work across the party apparatus.
		And when you talk about the California elections, you know, they say quietly even, Steve, you know, like, well, it's really clear they steal it, you know, and their side.
		And it's sort of interesting that that is even understood at sort of the wide range of operatives because there's literally no fail-safes, Steve, and it's all – That's the law.
		I mean, that's what they have as a law, right?
		No postmarks.
		They can appear.
		There's really nothing to stop Democrats from printing ballots after the fact or sort of filling them out and getting them in.
		It's something that people need to talk about.
		We need a grassroots bipartisan because it has to be bipartisan.
		And I believe it would be in California to really take a look at this and wonder why is this the only place in the civilized world?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Why would it be?
		But Alex, Alex, you're a lovely guy.
		Why would it be bipartisan?
		The Democrats got a system to win.
unidentified		They kind of dig it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hey, put all your money, get all your effort, get a mass mobilization, game day, war room posse.
		You win.
		And then two weeks later, dude, we're over a month from the vote, and these are congressional districts.
		Everything else is gone.
		People, even in New York, all the contested things, they're still counting ballots as they come in.
		And guess what?
		Now, is it three seats we lost out there, two seats or three seats?
		I think it's three seats, isn't it, that were just stolen from us?
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that people are looking illegal.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Was Watley in the RNC? I didn't see a fight out there.
		Did we miss it here at the Worm?
		Because people were blowing me up, and I said the RNC's on this.
		I guess Watley's on this.
		And I understand that it's a Democrat state, but hey, being a Democrat state, can't you go into federal court?
		Can't you stop this madness?
		Are we just going to sit there and go?
		Because I got news for people.
		Let me be brutally frank.
		You've had DeGrasse and a great team, and Stefanik, you had these guys, you had Ember.
		You had a great team this time, I think, a solid team, very well prepared.
		You had the data, you had the Warren Posse, and you had Donald Trump at the top of the frickin' ticket, right?
		With low-propensity voters who don't normally come out.
		And we barely hung on.
		We hit your worst case.
		In 2022, if I'm Hakeem Jeffries right now, I'm not saying I'm measuring the drapes, but I'm going to raise $2 billion.
		And here's my pitch.
		I will reverse everything Trump does in his last term, right?
		I'll reverse everything in the first two years, his great hundred days, his great six months, his great this, his great that.
		And then I'm going to impeach him in the first 30 days after we get in.
		And he will raise $2 billion on that pitch.
		And he'll point to, hey, I've got a way to do this.
		And if it's tight, we got ballot generation operations and Trump not at the top of the ticket, we'll smoke these guys.
		Where's the, given the fact that in 22, but I had DeGrasse and you had all these great people, we beat them by 6 million votes nationwide, I got that.
		But now they see, hey, we can get back into the ballot generation game and we're going to smoke these guys.
		Is that too crazy a proposition?
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		I mean, literally, I agree with you in terms of the Senate.
		And the big difference here, not to go on a quick tangent, is like the House is more— They're like half of them have been elected in the age of Trump, Steve.
		And I can't stress the difference in sort of mentality when you're a candidate that has come up through the grassroots while President Trump, you know, has been a political force and sort of the difference between people that have been there for a long time, right?
		I don't mean I got to be nice to everyone, part of my job.
		But I'm just saying the House is really more people that have come through that era.
		And so that's something when you look at the Senate and compare, which is why the House is so important.
		This election, it's all house.
		I mean, the next election is all house.
		They will have $2 billion.
		No doubt about that.
		They will put everything they can in New York and California.
		Now they've got to play more defense.
		We're going to have to really focus on offense.
		And absolutely, I mean, we need to really strengthen it.
		I mean, we're just stretched really thin broadly.
		I'm not here to make excuses.
		None of that on the war room.
		And I think people are fighting, fighting, curing, taking legal action.
		I mean, California is a cesspool.
		It's a black hole.
		In terms of any election integrity remedies, courts, I think the federal level is important.
		But, you know, they rule the postmarks.
		I mean, I think there may be his action to come, but these guys conceded, Steve.
		So, you know, that in terms of a remedy makes it essentially impossible, I believe, right, when you've got one of the parties has conceded the Republicans.
		I think it's upsetting, of course, and I'm not here to say anything, but the next election is so critical for the House, Steve.
		It is the most important election that we've spoken about because everything is on the line, and we say that every time, but this really is it in the House because they will stop, impeach, investigate, obstruct.
		They'll drag everyone in, and they'll stop everything.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, President Trump will have a two-year term.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I have a one-year second term.
unidentified		We'll get it done the first year.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And here's the thing.
		In North Carolina, it's more than just New York.
		It's more than New York and California.
		Look at North Carolina.
		I still can't get a straight answer how Trump won so big and everybody else got smoked.
		And I realize Mark Robinson had problems, but it's not – Mark Robinson is not the reason that we lost across the board, and they're licking their chops down there.
		As good as the Republicans are doing or trying to reverse things while they still have the two-thirds majority, they're licking their chops down there at a couple of those House seats.
		We've got to fight, and I think people have to be prepared.
		If you want to keep the Trump movement going – Understand that they look right now at the house in two years as really the smart people.
		Look at it as their ball work, where they can reverse, or first off, stop it dead in its tracks.
		Number two, reverse it, and they're going to impeach him for a third time.
		Write it down now.
		Get your number two Prince of Latin and write that down.
		Because that's what he's going to pitch.
		He's going to pitch.
		Just like Nancy Pelosi in 18, I'm the first one that kept saying it.
		I said, hey, she's running around these people that are knocking on doors in Iowa in the sweltering heat in the summer because she's told them I'm going to impeach Trump.
		And hey, wait for it.
		She impeached Trump.
unidentified		That was the pitch.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The same pitch is going to happen.
		Alex, we've got to bounce.
		People need to know where to go.
		I tell you what, hang through the break.
		I want to spend a few more minutes.
		I've got Jack Posobiec.
		I've got others.
		Birchgold.com.
		You think it's time to talk about your finances and his precious metals, an alternative?
		Talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
		Birchgold.com slash Bannon or Bannon, text Bannon, B-A-N-N-O-N at 989898. Turmoil.com.
		In France and in South Korea.
		Big time turmoil financially in the home of modern monetary theory.
		We'll get to that with Ben Harnwell this evening.
		Short break.
		Greg DeGrasse, Posobiec on the other side.
		So, Alex, the engine room is focused, is talking about stamina and focus and how we continue to close on victories. is talking about stamina and focus and how we continue Let me ask you, with Gates, Waltz, Stefanik, help me out here, brother.
		What's going to happen?
		You know, we've got a one or two seat majority right now.
		What is gonna happen when all these people drop out after January 3rd?
		Are we even gonna be able to pass any legislation?
		Give me the mechanics.
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so we'll get down to 2-17-15, and I would really dare anyone to oppose Donald Trump's agenda, most of which was already passed out of the House, right?
		So the border wall, you know, all of the imports of Parents' Bill of Rights, the stuff that's talking about energy independence, just sort of the quick and easy to get out in the first 100 days.
		I would challenge anyone to oppose.
		I mean, President Trump has so much political capital, Steve.
		Let's just bring it back quickly.
		The amount of people in D.C., and I know MAG out there across the country understood this, but that said, Donald J. Trump will outperform almost every single House candidate, Senate candidate, governor down the line.
		It was like five people, two of us talking to each other right now in D.C. So none of the apparatus on our side really understood that, prepared for it.
		I think now it's a wake-up call, although too late.
		And so as we prepare for the midterms, I do think MAGA is really in the driver's seat with President Trump in office, sort of taking a step back and looking at why that's the case.
		Because it used to not be the case.
		It used to be House guys would come five points over Trump.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I understand that, but their lesson is that, hey, Trump ain't going to run again.
		And when you say political capital, I got one warrior down.
		Unless we go total fixed bayonets and the home office has got to know somebody there has got to stop leaking on alternatives.
		I'm going to have two down and they're superstars in this movement.
		And now they're going to focus since Pete didn't even get to flood the zone in early January with a hearing or at least take it to December because Pete's drawing a fire away from cash and away from Tulsi and away from Bobby Kennedy.
		Right?
		They're going to focus on cash to turn it out.
		I've got the New York Times has laid out how McConnell's going to stop it through soon.
		And we know that's going to happen.
		You know that and I know that.
		And let's be brutally frank.
		Behind the scenes, the more sophisticated resistance right now is not the Democrats.
		They're still kind of recovering from the punch and they're trying to figure it out and scrap around.
		But the Republicans, the Republican established order.
		Still believe in their heart of hearts that Trump is a passing summer storm.
		And that if they just tap Trump along, that this movement will dissipate or it will get so frustrated that it will just either go away or...
		We'll fall back into the, you know, Nikki Birdbrain, you know, Ron DeSantis, you know, Governor Youngkin, the standard stock tax cuts and a little bit of deregulation to make the donors happy.
		And we'll continue on the forever wars.
		We'll continue with the spending and the apparatus and the administrative state, and we won't send anybody home.
		Dems de facts, folks.
		That is reality.
		People might want to talk about it, but that's reality.
		And you're going to see this as you try to push up.
		In the Senate, brother, because you fight for every seat, and Stefanik fights for every seat.
		Let me be blunt.
		Let me just tell people a reality check.
		The Senate seat in Wisconsin, they should have been in court.
		We should have been fighting that and counting every ballot.
		That is a win from us that not only got stolen, they didn't fight because Mitch McConnell doesn't want that extra seat.
		He likes the fact he's got two Democrats in Collins and Murkowski there, and he's the deciding vote.
		And then they can see if they get a mic around to somebody else.
		That's how they're going to blunt Trump.
		The Trump forces.
		Am I incorrect on that?
		They didn't want to fight for these other seats.
		Not just Cary Lake.
		They didn't want Sam Brown in Nevada.
		They didn't want the pickup in Michigan.
		They didn't really fight for Mike Rogers.
		He's not a MAGA guy, but they didn't want the seat.
		They didn't want the seat in Wisconsin.
		Wisconsin's the most obvious that if you were serious...
		You would fight tooth and nail that.
		They like the fact that it's only 53. They like the fact that Murkowski and Collins are essentially Democrats.
		They like the fact that Mitch McConnell is saying, and they like the fact that they've got to go up and kowtow to Mitch McConnell in the Senate.
		Where am I incorrect on that, brother?
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, what I would say, because what you said is so important about, like, sort of the next man out there going after Pete.
		It's Cash next.
		It's Tulsi.
		I mean, There's literally nothing more important than closing ranks, fixing bayonets, getting in the trenches, and pushing forward with everything we've got on Pete because they went after Gates.
		They took him down.
		This is a sophisticated op with friends on our side, like you're saying, involved in it.
		This is a highly sophisticated from, I believe, the highest powers of Democrats partnered with their allies on our side, of course, or our side, of course.
		And they are moving this thing viciously and fast.
		And it's him down, if he goes down, and then it's the next one.
		We have to break them with Pete.
		That is the most important thing.
		We have to push this through with everything we've got.
		A lot of people are focused on getting this done.
		I mean, I was working all night in the morning, doing what I can, you know, just a house guy, you know, doing what we can to try to help from the outside, do everything we can, because this is the most vicious.
		You look at what's going on, you take a step back, the posse's smart, Looking at the signal, this is really something.
		I'm glad we've got posts so odd.
		He knows all the facts and everything.
		I mean, this stuff is wild.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But if we break them with Pete— But DeGrasse, correct me if I'm wrong, is Pete going over actually to the House today to meet with some people?
		This is what I heard.
		He was going over to rally some of the troops over there, although they don't participate in the confirmation process.
		Is that actually going to happen, or is that just rumor?
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		I know that they were trying to meet with some other nominees.
		I'm not sure on that, but I think that's great.
		But I think this really is.
		I mean, those that are allied with President Trump, we are closing ranks, how we're doing everything we can.
		This really is the most important fight for the posse, is this nomination, because you look at that budget at the Pentagon, you understand what's on the line.
		Those view, see what's on the line.
		He's committing a fight for the warfighters, not the warmongers.
		That's the messaging.
		That's The sort of battle line here.
		And I think people will sort of expose where they are in that fight over the next couple weeks.
		But it's very important that everyone dig in nicely.
		We want to be polite.
		Call your senators.
		Make sure they're out there publicly supporting and going through the process because it's key.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Alex, where do people get access to you, sir?
alex degrasse ▲ ● ▼		I'm on X at DeGrasse81, Getter at DeGrasse.
		Appreciate everyone.
		Just Pete, Pete, Pete.
		Bayonet, bayonet, bayonet.
		All the way.
		Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, brother.
		Alex DeGrasse over at the house.
		Can I play – can we get – I got Poso.
		Can we play the defense cut that we had on the defense spending?
		Let's go and play that to bring in Poso.
unidentified		Yes, there's bloat in the Pentagon budget.
		We're spending too much, in some cases, on the wrong systems.
		But this is a very powerful case that this needs to be a time of great innovation and actually expansion of what we spend on defense, given what's going on in the world geopolitically and in the world of technology.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You heard it, $848 billion.
		And that's not all of it.
		If you added it all in, it's a trillion dollars.
		Let's just top it off and round it up.
		The other departments, if you added up what they really spent, Jack Posobiec, you know this better than anybody.
		You throw in intel, you throw in some energy, you know, some of the nukes.
		You throw it all in, you top a trillion dollars.
		And right there, they're upping your grill.
		They're going to say, yeah, there's some bloat.
		There's a little bit of waste, fraud, and abuse.
		Don't give me waste, fraud, and abuse.
		This is programmatic.
		The empire is too big.
		If you're going to have the empire as you have it today, you're going to be about a trillion dollars.
		Posobiec, this fight over Pete Hexeth is now symbolic.
		And I just hope people in the home office understand that, you know, it's like in France in 1917 or 1918. Like if you see paths of glory.
		When you put the bayonet on and you go up to take the anthill, You're going through no man's land.
		We would like the artillery to be aimed at the Germans, not aimed at our lines to get guys motivated.
		We're motivated.
		And what I'm afraid of here is that there's all kind of mixed signals coming out.
		We're all in for Pete Hexeth.
		And Pete Hexeth is symbolic now.
		It's even bigger than Pete Hexeth.
		Are you with me on this, Posa?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Well, I do think it's bigger, and I just want to give a huge shout-out not only to Pete Hegseth, his family, his mother coming out today, his wife being there with him on the Hill, President Trump calling Pete Hegseth earlier today and telling him to keep fighting, keep your head down, keep in there.
		But the shout-out has to be to Will Kane.
		This guy has really stepped up as a brother in arms.
		A battle buddy, someone who's got your back and someone who's rallying to your defense, when you see another guy taking fire, when that guy's on your team, even if it doesn't directly benefit you personally, you know it's about the cause.
		And Steve, there's a lot of people around who say they know, oh, this is about the movement or this is about the money.
		And look, I see a lot of people right now, and you can see this, They're putting the movement over the money, and I love to see that.
		I love to see it from Will Cain.
		I love to see it from all the people that are now rallying behind Rachel Duffy is coming out, of course, his other co-host there for Fox& Friends weekend.
		And it's just incredible to see that all these people, they could keep their mouths shut and all the 18 coming out rallying behind him saying this stuff is not real.
		It's never been true.
		And I love to see it because what you're actually seeing within Fox, by the way, is a bit of an internal fight as well from the people who are on air, from the people who run the cameras, from the people who work in the production versus, shall we say, the people in the higher offices.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's talk about that and give the audience, because as you know, a lot of the posse does not watch Fox anymore for good reasons.
		But let's talk about this Fox situation where these vicious leaks came out.
		If everything went bad enough, then they had these leaks come out from Fox people that said he drank too much and he had a problem drinker, which is what took John Tower down, what, 30 or 40 years ago.
		But you had Will Kane and others stepping on the plate.
		Tell us what Will, his other hosts, Duffy, these other people have been doing to come out front and say, hey, we don't care about what these leaks were.
		Those are lies.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Well, they say it's complete lies.
		I mean, look, this guy does the morning show.
		They say, look, if we had smelled anything on his breath, we would have known about this.
		Joey Jones as well coming out.
		People who say, look, I don't drink.
		What did Rachel say?
		I think she said, you know, the only thing I ever smelled on his breath was an egg sandwich and a coffee.
		Because, you know, that's the kind of thing you can't get away with.
		But let's cut back.
		Let's cut the crap a little bit here.
		Look, drinking has never been a problem in terms of career path for people over at Fox.
		And there's a whole, whole mess of dirty laundry.
		We had Dirty Laundry Day here at Human Events Daily yesterday.
		There's a ton of dirty laundry over at Fox that could come out if people want to go and play that game.
		But we know this isn't actually about drinking, which never happened to begin with, an 18 off-the-record anonymous sources that nobody wants to come out.
		Whereas Will Kane, he's got people who are on the record.
		He's putting his own career on the line to do this.
		Rachel Duffey is putting her own career on the line to do this.
		Why are they doing that?
		Because he's their brother in arms.
		This is Band of Brothers.
		This is the type of men who founded this country, by the way, is people going up and putting up things that they actually had to lose.
		When you had something to lose, putting that on the line.
		But what I'll also say is it's the higher-ups who are behind all this.
		This is why you're getting the leaks to the Wall Street Journal.
		That's the Murdochs.
		That's Paul Ryan.
		It's the neocons.
		Those are the people who are now coming out against Pete Hegseth because they don't want any cuts to the military.
		They don't want any pullback.
		Ukraine, Syria, all the rest of it.
		They love the war and they want to keep the war going.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Pete Hegseth, I mean, the guy, they love the guy.
		He's a man's man.
		I mean, Pete's got, you know, he's got some chinks in the armor.
		That's okay.
		Everybody's got chinks in the armor.
		Hex is exactly the mentality you need over that place right now.
		And they're saying, well, he couldn't run these small organizations.
		Pete Hex is going to be fine.
		They'll put a great team around him.
		Pete Hex is a leader.
		He's a leader of men.
		And right now, this is pure character assassination.
		And they're all in in the biggest way.
		Okay.
		Birchgold.com slash abandoned.
		End of the dollar empire.
		We'll talk a little bit about that in the second hour.
		We're going to talk some capital markets and some economics.
		Jack Posobiec here.
		We've got the Third World War.
		Jack Posobiec is going to get us up to date next in the War Room.
unidentified		That's what I'm really hoping.
		I'm hoping that Jake Sullivan talked to Michael Waltz, who's the incoming national security advisor, or President Biden who's talked to President Trump and said, here's what I'm going to do.
		I'm really hoping that happened because what he has done, Biden, through his action, he's actually given President Trump more leverage.
		Really?
		Because now he can pull back.
		He can go left.
		He can go right.
		He can do something.
		I think what he did is he basically said, well, this is what I want to do.
		And I'm hoping there's something to this.
		I don't know.
		But it does give President Trump more ability to pivot from that.
		Oh, that's interesting.
		Just one quick question before we let you go.
		We have like five seconds, General.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Not a quick question.
		I can't take it.
		Okay, folks, we're in the shooting part now of the Third World War.
		We've warned you about this.
		We've helped Karen Sigmund and the team at AFA. Create that entire seminar that we've gone around the country now for over a year.
		Let's say on the Eurasian landmass from Ukraine to the Middle East, down there to the Gulf, the Red Sea.
		Let's go around to the South China Sea and let's go up to, wait for it, Korea and Japan.
		Around the rim of the Eurasian landmass, there's a Third World War.
		And now we're into the shooting part.
		Jack Posobiec, Financial Times today.
		This is what...
		In both the three lines of work, on the war, on the debt and the economy, and deficit, and on the invasion.
		The Biden regime is boxing Trump in right now, every second, every day, and nobody on Capitol Hill is stepping up there and going, what in the hell is going on here?
		In an interregnament, after you lose an election, and particularly a beatdown like they just got, Okay?
		They should put everything, pencils down.
		Not all this crap they're doing.
		And Jack, let's start in Ukraine, man.
		I don't think anybody, the Financial Times finally gave us a couple of buried leads.
		But people do not realize in this country what is happening in this war.
		And this is going to have implications for you and your children in this nation for decades to come unless we get on top of it.
		Jack Posobiec.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, when you and I were discussing this yesterday and we said, what is the strategic calculus for Russia vis-a-vis the eastern provinces of Ukraine?
		And we talked about how they fight low and slow.
		They encircle, they create the cauldrons, and then they move forward.
		and anyone who's still in the cauldron that does not surrender gets killed or worse.
		And they just keep moving and moving.
		It's a different type of warfare than we do in the West.
		It's not these long battle runs.
		It's not these, you know, the Blitzkrieg kind of stuff.
		No, it's low and slow and it's methodical and it is absolutely deadly.
		And we said they're just doing this methodically across the eastern Russian-speaking provinces all the way to the Dnepr River.
		And we were talking about it all day here yesterday on the program.
		Well, what do we see in the Financial Times London?
		They have this huge piece up that's got essentially a battle damage analysis of over 10,000 drone strikes that have taken place where?
		In Harsan City in the south, right on the banks of the Dnieper River.
		And why is this significant?
		Well, it's because Kherson City is on the other side of the Dnieper River.
		It is on the western side.
		And in fact, it's a city.
		So when I visited Ukraine in 2022 there in the south, and we made it as far as Nikolaev, the Russians still held the Kherson City.
		This is a key city that sits essentially just towards the mouth of the Dnieper River.
		You control that.
		You control the entire river all the way up to Kiev and Dnieper.
		Beyond.
		This is a key strategic port city there on the south.
		And then that river, of course, is your connective tissue where?
		Into the Black Sea.
		So if you control this thing, you control what?
		Exports.
		You control all the exports from Ukraine via river into the Black Sea.
		Control the strategic waterway.
		And what does it have buried deep within the Financial Times article?
		Well, it finally admits that it looks like Russia perhaps is setting up an invasion force for an amphibious assault across that river to take Kherson City once again.
		Again, they had pulled back at one point.
		Serovkin pulled back.
		He said, we don't think it's defensible.
		We don't want to get in.
		That was back in 2022, 2023.
		Now that they've methodically moved their way forward, it looks like they may take a play at taking the city once more.
		Now, of course, the question remains, will they do that prior to Donald Trump coming back in?
		But we saw what's happened over the last couple of weeks.
		And over the last couple of weeks, we saw these long-range missiles.
		But, oh, wait, the long-range missiles, the attack comes into Russia, they've stopped.
		And there used to be all this talk in the press that said, oh, we're so happy about the missiles and look at how great it was.
		And the NATO chiefs were talking about, oh, we're finally taking the fight to the Russians.
		You got the neocons up on Fox.
		They're getting all giddy about it.
		They say, we're finally getting our big war with Russia.
		This is the one we've been waiting for for a long time, boys.
		And then Russia responds with their Oresnik hypersonic.
		And suddenly all the happy talk goes away because the strategic calculus is different because guess what?
		Now it turns out that the escalation ladder is not completely controlled by us.
		Now the escalation ladder, which we're already on, is controlled by them.
		He doesn't need to go nuclear because there's nothing within the U.S. arsenal or the NATO arsenal or anything that Ukraine has that can stop these hypersonics.
		And they're sitting there knowing that they can do that with impunity.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Jack, can you hang with me for the start of the next?
		I want to go through their situations with the CCP a lot, and I want to talk to you about more about cash and some of these nominations because the fight is engaged right now.
		We have to get President Trump's team approved.
		Any weakness that we show right now is just going to be a feeding frenzy for those folks in the Senate, the Mitch McConnell forces that want to blunt the Trump revolution.
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