Dec. 4, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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for the wealthiest nation in the world to do. | |
| And today, I'm announcing over $1 billion in new humanitarian support for Africans displaced from homes by historic droughts and food insecurity. | ||
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We know African leaders and citizens are seeking more than just aid. | |
| You seek investment. | ||
| So the United States is expanding our relationship all across Africa, from assistance to aid, to investment to trade, moving from patrons to partners to help bridge the infrastructure gap. | ||
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I was told, by the way, when I got elected, I could never get an infrastructure bill passed. | |
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I've got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| Welcome to the War Room. | ||
| It's Natalie G. Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon today, Tuesday, December 3rd in the year of our Lord, 2024. Stephen K. Bannon is both out on assignment, and for those of you who live in the Palm Beach area, he is speaking at Club 47. Used to be Club 45, but a little something happened, so they had to change the name. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's called, what, November 5th? | ||
| November 7th? | ||
| So he's speaking there. | ||
| So it's Natalie Winters for the next hour, but we're gonna be joined in studio by the one and only Jeff Clark. | ||
| And of course, breaking news coming out of Georgia, Fulton County, more election skullduggery going on there. | ||
| However, I wanted to open the show with that clip of Joe Biden speaking today in Africa, believe it or not. | ||
| And I was, of course, waiting for the mainstream media, for all the far-left, what, post-race activists, to melt down and smear anything that he said as, you know, neo-colonialism, oh, it was racist, he's in Africa, whatever, who knows what they'd say. | ||
| But it never happened. | ||
| And you know why it never happened? | ||
| Because it's you guys. | ||
| It's this audience. | ||
| It's the working men and women here in the United States of America that are the modern-day indentured servants, or dare I say slaves, that, I don't know, carry the entire weight of this whole new world order on their back, right? | ||
| You're forced to pay in and subsidize a financial system where you have to pay the over-inflated, woke, and weaponized salaries of a government that absolutely detests you. | ||
| And I'm not just talking about the, I don't know, financial shackles that they've put you under to the tune of tens of trillions of dollars. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You have to pay and support the financial superstructure and apparatus that wants to dominate your life. | ||
| And by the way, Joe Biden... | ||
| I think the people who live in East Palestine would absolutely love to have a word with you, or I don't know, maybe receive federal response that resembles anything of the billion dollars that you, what, just haphazardly gave to some African, probably warlords. | ||
| I'd love to see how that money actually materializes on the ground. | ||
| Though if Ukraine is the playbook, it'll probably just lead to some nice yachts being bought over there. | ||
| Or how about this? | ||
| Let's not even go all the way back to what happened in East Palestine. | ||
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Right? | |
| Or I guess we could talk about all the money he's given to Palestine. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Everything that's gone on in North Carolina. | ||
| I'm sure, what was it? | ||
| The $750 that you still couldn't even actually really use? | ||
| And I know that was all smeared as misinformation and disinformation by what? | ||
| The lovely mainstream media. | ||
| But it turned out that we were actually right. | ||
| They weren't going to houses with Trump signs. | ||
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Right? | |
| But apparently now, if you live in Africa, you just get, what? | ||
| Just a billion dollars. | ||
| Hey, it doesn't matter. | ||
| A billion dollars. | ||
| Just support. | ||
| I don't know what. | ||
| That's, I guess, foreign policy under Joe Biden. | ||
| And here's the best part of that lovely clip that we just played. | ||
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Right? | |
| The whole pretext, the justification for why we need to send billions of dollars to help, what, the third world develop into I don't know what? | ||
| And I would say we shouldn't be casting stones because have you seen how they conduct elections here? | ||
| They're probably better conducted in a lot of African nations. | ||
| But the reason why Joe Biden is telling you, the American people, that we need to give so many taxpayer dollars to the United States, or rather to Africa, is because that's how we're going to combat Chinese Communist Party aggression. | ||
| That's how we're gonna stop debt trap diplomacy that the Chinese Communist Party has been using to leverage influence over developing African countries. | ||
| Now that's gaslighting, that that carbon footprint on that's probably so big that I'm going to apologize in advance to all the eco-terrorists and climate change activists. | ||
| But the nerve of Joe Biden, what, two days after he pardoned his son Hunter? | ||
| To stand up there and say that we need to continue to give hordes of U.S. taxpayer dollars to Africa to combat the Chinese Communist Party is some next level BS that I didn't even know Joe Biden, whatever drugs he may be on making him so out of it. | ||
| I don't even think that he had that in him, because if you want to look at someone who what the last few years has been in the direct business of not just propping up the Chinese Communist Party abroad, but particularly in the developing third world. | ||
| Yeah, I'd look no further than Hunter Biden. | ||
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Right. | |
| And in this whole broader idea that I know all the intellectuals in Washington, D.C., this debate that they love to have about the Chinese model versus the United States model and how that shapes foreign diplomacy. | ||
| Well, our comparative advantage, at least what I've been told by all of my Atlantic Council betters, is supposed to be that the United States represents, I don't know, democracy and that the Chinese Communist Party system is supposed to be authoritarianism and that we want to make sure that developing countries buy into democracy and that the Chinese Communist Party system is supposed to be That's our Trump card. | ||
| No pun intended. | ||
| It's democracy. | ||
| Well, Joe Biden. - Then... | ||
| Shame on you, because what you have done to this country and this justice system, and I'm not even starting the clock of what you did with your son Hunter Biden, has turned this country into something that's probably far worse than an autocracy, right? | ||
| The picture of them wheeling out Hu Jintao from the Politburo meeting, what was it, a few years ago? | ||
| Yeah, I think Trump's mugshot is probably 10, 100 times worse than anything you guys did there. | ||
| So spare me the moralizing about how President Trump is going to wreck the world stage because he doesn't understand that the United States upper hand derives from democracy and that we can't counter the Chinese Communist Party because... | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| To me, it seems like all the people who've been in business with the Chinese regime for so long, they're the ones that we're going to be getting, I don't know, a little something called retribution from. | ||
| Yeah, I'd love to total up all the foreign cash that everyone who's on cash's hit list. | ||
| I'd love to total all of those finances up and see how much of that we can trace back to China. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Probably we should. | ||
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And we will. | |
| Or maybe I'm wrong on all of this. | ||
| Maybe the only reason that Joe Biden's going to Africa is because it's what? | ||
| The last continent that's left for him to grift on? | ||
| Maybe that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But let's just lean into this whole angle of attack a little bit more. | ||
| Because, you know, The Economist, the brilliant brains over at The Economist, they have a really new hot take for you. | ||
| Are you ready? | ||
| American veterans now receive absurdly generous benefits. | ||
| The two words there couldn't just be generous benefits. | ||
| It was absurdly generous benefits. | ||
| And they actually had to tack on an adjective qualifier to that. | ||
| So you got a three-point punch to make the point that you, the American people, whose sons and daughters have not just given their lives, shed blood and tears to defend the borders of other nations, but you, actual American veterans, have you seen how the VA has run lately? | ||
| Well, you guys apparently are getting way too much. | ||
| But I've never seen one of a more sicker headline from the mainstream media. | ||
| That probably has to be it. | ||
| And by the way, there's only one veteran who I think has received absurdly generous benefits. | ||
| And that's Hunter Biden, who, what, couldn't last, what was it, a year in the Navy reserves and managed to get a pardon from his father? | ||
| Well, it gets even better. | ||
| Because today, the Democrats, who, make no mistake, absolutely detest you and hate you, they put out a tweet. | ||
| It was a little slip of the tongue in how much they actually hate you from their Democratic Ways and Means Committee. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Let's put that up on screen. | ||
| They were, quote, tweeting a Black Friday sort of data point showing how Americans had spent so much money. | ||
| And they felt the need to tweet, and here we were thinking y'all couldn't afford eggs. | ||
| So they now think it's funny. | ||
| They want to mock the American people that they have beaten down for so many decades, pushed this country to a financial brink where we're tens of trillions of dollars in debt. | ||
| And now they want to put out funnily worded tweets mocking your inability to afford eggs. | ||
| Oh, and then it gets better. | ||
| Because Gavin Newsom, the spearhead, the tip of the resistance, well, he's now stealing $25 million of taxpayer dollars out in California to set up a legal defense fund to, I don't know what, defend against the democratically elected President Donald J. Trump's agenda. | ||
| And make no mistake, states all across this country are now actively working to steal taxpayer dollars to set up immigrant defense funds. | ||
| It sounds so euphemistic. | ||
| No, criminal defense funds for people who destroyed the sovereignty of this country and have continued to commit crimes from day one of entering this country across our poorest southern border. | ||
| And by the way, for all these people who melt down saying that veterans are receiving too much money, yet what about all those NGOs and charity groups and UN useless bureaucrats, all the billions if not trillions of dollars that have gone to them? | ||
| Are those not absurdly generous? | ||
| No, those are just fine. | ||
| Okay, noted economist. | ||
| Well, then here's the best part too, because apparently now we have a bunch of fiscal hawks in the halls of Washington DC. I've never heard so many people so concerned about the budget except when it comes to what mass deportations and national sovereignty. | ||
| Well, here's the best part, because apparently all those people think it's fine to send, what, millions, tens of millions of dollars to EcoHealth Alliance through Anthony Fauci to fund deadly, risky coronavirus gain-of-function research with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| And let's put this article up on screen, because it was just revealed yesterday that the Department of Justice had been secretly investigating EcoHealth Alliance for being at the center of the Wuhan COVID lab leak. | ||
| Now, it's so funny because the DOJ, which I don't know about you guys, but I've only ever seen them, what, leak any single document, any single story that makes President Trump look bad. | ||
| It's funny to me how the DOJ investigation of EcoHealth Alliance, yeah, the very same entity that this show was censored and I was mocked and ridiculed for as a journalist. | ||
| It's funny to me how that investigation, I don't know, never seemed to make it to the New York Times. | ||
| It was only tacitly admitted to in the bombshell congressional report about the origins of COVID where they concluded something that we've been telling you on this show for how many years? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've lost count. | ||
| But apparently that's not an absurdly generous benefit for an actual branch of China's military to receive millions of your taxpayer dollars. | ||
| No, that's not absurdly generous. | ||
| That's called the status quo and that's called foreign policy as usual. | ||
| And then, just to, I guess, put a nice, shiny, money-laundering bow on all of this, of course, we have to put another, what, $725 million to Ukraine, and that's on top of the already pre-existing $60-plus billion that Joe Biden wants to ram through before he leaves office. | ||
| And if you read the reporting, even the Washington Post admits that they're worried that this is going to cause, I don't know, a little bit of detriment to the United States' weapons and munitions stockpiles and supplies. | ||
| But I think that's the point. | ||
| Because Joe Biden doesn't care. | ||
| And he never did. | ||
| And he's sort of the perfect epitome for the unelected bureaucrat class that runs Washington, D.C. Because he's both unelected, and he's a bureaucrat in the sense that he doesn't serve the interests of the American people. | ||
| Right now, he's literally busy serving the interests of Vladimir Zelensky, and he'll say it to your face, And then he'll punctuate the sentence with another billion dollars for Africa while telling the people in East Palestine and North Carolina that, sorry, you don't get anything. | ||
| And if you dare to complain about it, we're going to blame you and say that you're guilty of spreading misinformation and disinformation. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's the trade. | ||
| That's the legacy of Joe Biden. | ||
| That's what we're dealing with here. | ||
| By the way, I didn't really see Joe Biden address the pardon at all. | ||
| I know Jill Biden did. | ||
| So they can put all the Norm Eisen's and Alexander Vindman's and all the Democracy Defender Brigade on TV to defend this pardon, to defend Joe Biden's legacy. | ||
| But here's the uncomfortable fact. | ||
| You guys are every single damn thing that you accuse President Trump of being, and you're ten times worse. | ||
| And your death count? | ||
| I use that word intentionally. | ||
| It's ten times worse than probably what we even could estimate. | ||
| And no, I'm not just talking about Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I'm talking about the vaccines, the COVID stuff, what you've done with mass immigration, what you've done with the deaths of despair that J.D. Vance wrote so eloquently about. | ||
| Well, that all changes on January 20th. | ||
| So go try to make money in Africa, Joe Biden. | ||
| I look forward to investigating that, too. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | |
| You are back in the war room. | ||
| It's still Natalie Winters hosting because Stephen K. Bannon is getting ready to speak. | ||
| And as you can imagine, busy with meetings in Palm Beach. | ||
| Now, we are joined by the one and only Jeff Clark, who you were telling me before the break that when they were doing a hit piece on you, someone once tried to claim that you were 5'4". | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So we can now attest, because I'm 5'5". | ||
| You're definitely taller than me. | ||
| So to the Fannie Willis apparatchiks who tried to smear you for being short. | ||
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Yes. | |
| That's definitely not true. | ||
| Yeah, I joked that they were confusing me with- Anthony Fauci? | ||
| Anthony Fauci, yeah. | ||
| Many such cases. | ||
| Well, there is some breaking news that I wanted to cover with you before we get into the, shall we call it, deep-seated infestation over the Department of Justice. | ||
| There's some breaking news that Donald Trump has now filed a motion to dismiss the 34 guilty verdicts in the Manhattan prosecution. | ||
| Norm Eisen's busy melting down about it on Twitter, so I thought we should cover it. | ||
| Can you sort of walk the audience through what's happening there? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So look, they're throwing everything they can to convince Judge Justice Mershon to dismiss this case. | ||
| And he really should. | ||
| And one of the arguments made is that, look, President Trump is about to assume the presidency, which is the most awesome office in the entire world. | ||
| It's a busy office, right? | ||
| It requires the full attention of the person who's elected to that office. | ||
| And so in light of that, At the very least, this should be put on hold until after his presidency is over, and in reality, it should be dismissed because it's a bogus case. | ||
| It's just adding to all of their existing grounds to dismiss the case. | ||
| For instance, the main one that I'm fond of is the fact that after the Trump v. | ||
| US immunity decision on July 1st, President Trump has absolute immunity for consultations he had with his advisors inside the Oval Office, one of whom was Hope Hicks. | ||
| And they just put her testimony on in front of the jury. | ||
| And so the jury is, and the case is, hopelessly corrupted by that testimony. | ||
| And that testimony went into details shared in confidence. | ||
| And the Supreme Court held that not only did they hold that he has a category of absolute immunity and category of presumptive immunity, but they also held that they created a new exclusionary rule that said, if you're talking about presidential communications that the president is entitled to have, and he needs to have to discharge his office, that that if you're talking about presidential communications that the president is entitled to have, and he needs So that rule was completely violated. | ||
| The evidence was introduced in court. | ||
| Clearly the, you know, the press played and, and, you know, stress the idea that, you know, his close advisor, Hope Hicks had testified against him in this trial in Manhattan. | ||
| And to try to say that that had no prejudicial effect on President Trump is ludicrous. | ||
| So the whole case needs to be thrown out. | ||
| And the only argument that it seems to me that I saw in this unfolding was... | ||
| Norm Eisen's starting one of Acts, two of Acts, three of Acts. | ||
| The only real point I saw there was the idea that, look, the trial's already been completed, and so it's not going to be any additional burden on the presidency. | ||
| But no, there's going to be an appeal. | ||
| There are going to be multiple appeals. | ||
| Of course it creates a burden on the presidency. | ||
| And it's not like the Clinton v. | ||
| Jones case where the conduct predated entirely by By years, President Clinton becoming president, this merely governor of Arkansas. | ||
| This is conduct that they charged, and this was a fatal mistake of theirs, a fatal mistake of both Matthew Colangelo, who they sent up to Manhattan from New York, and Alvin Bragg to charge conduct that straddled the time when President Trump We're good to go. | ||
| But hang on, because I remember Norm Eisen had put out this long Twitter thread essentially saying that it actually wouldn't be that much of a burden to President Donald Trump. | ||
| And I think that there's an interesting sort of tell there because this is the same chorus of people who tell us, you know, Putin is waiting to destroy the entire world order at any moment's notice and everything that's going on in the Middle East, you know, requires so much attention and trillions of our taxpayer dollars. | ||
| So can you sort of drill down on that logic train for a little bit and how just bogus it is? | ||
| Look, I mean, I'm a personal target of lawfare, and I can attest to the fact that it takes up lots of time. | ||
| And that time, the cost is not only in the time, but in the opportunity cost of what could you have done with that time. | ||
| If you're the president of the United States, your opportunity costs, I would submit, are the highest of any single person in the world. | ||
| And the American people don't want their president distracted by those kinds of things. | ||
| And the Constitution trumps enforcement of New York law. | ||
| The Constitution is the ultimate law, and the president has to be able to discharge his functions without impediments. | ||
| I want to pivot now, though it's all sort of related, but there was an interesting Washington Post article, which Denver, if you want to toss up on screen, amid worry about Trump calls for career justice department stop to stay, it goes through and it quotes how a ton of people are potentially interested in leaving DOJ. I think Matt Gaetz, I say that was sort of de facto schedule F, but they're sort of worried about who they could potentially see leading the department. | ||
| I'm just curious your thoughts sort of internally what you think is going on At DOJ, do you think you're going to see that mass exodus, or do you think you're going to sort of see an internal resistance when these people embed and stay in? | ||
| So let me start with the theory of the civil service, right? | ||
| The theory of the civil service, Natalie, is that they're a neutral group of people. | ||
| They're not invested in any particular policy. | ||
| They just have expertise. | ||
| They develop institutional knowledge that they can put to use For whoever their political superior officers are, tracing all the way up to the presidency. | ||
| That is the theory of the civil service. | ||
| So if you have people who are saying, I don't wanna serve Republicans or I don't wanna serve President Trump, despite the fact that he was overwhelmingly elected, both this time with a popular vote win and with a resounding win in the Electoral College, you're negating the entire theory of having a civil service. | ||
| And that contradiction doesn't seem to stop anybody on MSNBC. They want people, you know, to be inside resisting President Trump. | ||
| And I saw resistance to President Trump. | ||
| I saw resistance when I was in the Bush administration at the Justice Department to the Bush administration, right? | ||
| By and large, the surveys show that they're Democrats, and many of them refuse to accept this theory of the civil service. | ||
| Their view is that whatever they think the right legal outcome is, that's the view that should control. | ||
| And if you disagree, they have the duty, or they put it in very moralistic terms, to try to get their way anyway. | ||
| By either slowing things down. | ||
| I've had situations. | ||
| I had one situation in Bush 43 where there was an official very first Solicitor General meeting. | ||
| I joined a career lawyer who was like putting up on our personal blog information that we discussed in a confidential legal discussion up at the Solicitor General's office. | ||
| I mean, it's just like mind blowing. | ||
| And she was not disciplined for it, despite the fact that I called for it. | ||
| And then I also had a situation where there was a career lawyer who disobeyed my order to remove an argument that was not a good argument and was, in fact, I think contrary to the law from a brief. | ||
| And I gave her some opportunities to argue against me to the contrary, and instead she put it in there anyway. | ||
| I called for her to be disciplined as well, but the decision rested above me, and she wasn't disciplined either. | ||
| So I think that people now realize that President Trump especially is onto their game, and that people like Kash Patel will be onto their game over in the part of the Justice Department known as the FBI. And they know that that's not going to be tolerated anymore, and these folks are going to be disciplined, and they may even be separated from the civil service. | ||
| And, you know, that's causing some of them to think, hey, maybe I should get out of here. | ||
| That article you pointed to, though, did note that many of the expert observers of the legal market said there's no way the legal market could absorb all of these people, right? | ||
| So sort of like, whoa for them. | ||
| You know, are you going to shed a tear for them, Natalie? | ||
| That's what I was going to say. | ||
| I don't think I will be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, in terms of the question of like, will there be a lot who leave versus will they stay and try to resist? | ||
| I had a debate with a lawyer who actually represents a fair number of January Sixers. | ||
| He thinks that a lot of those folks are going to leave and he knows them better than I do. | ||
| So he might be right about that. | ||
| But I tend to think that the general inclination will be what Merrick Garland is urging them to do, which is hold on tight. | ||
| The Republic needs you. | ||
| And, you know, the Republic I don't think they use the word republic. | ||
| I think they call it a democracy. | ||
| They'll use it when they think... | ||
| Look, communists will use language... | ||
| They're quite good at that. | ||
| Yes, they'll use whatever language that they think is necessary to their ends, right? | ||
| It's Alinsky tactics. | ||
| So even if they don't believe that there should be a republic. | ||
| But if you actually understand the republic, the president is the representative of the people. | ||
| He embodies... | ||
| The Republican system. | ||
| And so, of course, if there's an actual violation of law, but we're not talking about situations where the law is being violated. | ||
| We're talking about situations where they would prefer that arguments were different. | ||
| They would prefer if a different policy were pursued. | ||
| They would prefer if some laws go unenforced and other laws are over-enforced, like they're really happy with FACE Act enforcement against abortion protesters. | ||
| They don't like bringing reverse discrimination cases in the civil rights division if a white person is discriminated against. | ||
| These are the kinds of examples. | ||
| And that's just their policy preference. | ||
| And that should have no weight at all in the equation of what they do. | ||
| They're supposed to follow orders and they're supposed to carry out the president's decisions, not their own personal preferences. | ||
| It's the underlying philosophy of, I think, what propelled the first impeachment and even to some extent the second impeachment. | ||
| Policy disagreements from people like Alexander Vindman, Eric Charmela, all these horrible people. | ||
| They thought that they were the ones who were elected by the American people, but it's the glowing example of what we need to get rid of. | ||
| I want you to hang with us through the break. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We're coming at you live from Palm Beach. | ||
| Like I said, Stephen K. Bannon is, we'll say, out on assignment. | ||
| Not in prison. | ||
| Always makes me happy to be able to say that. | ||
| But in the meantime, you guys got to be checking out birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Give Philip Patrick and the team a call. | ||
| MyPatriotSupply.com too. | ||
| You never know what South Korea is now under, like, martial law. | ||
| They just said politics is canceled. | ||
| Sometimes I feel like that would be a good idea. | ||
| No, I'm kidding. | ||
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| We got Jeff Clark. | ||
| We're gonna be joined later by Liz Harrington. | ||
| Fulton County is up to, like I said, some... | ||
| We'll use the word that President Trump likes to use. | ||
| Skullduggery when it comes to election interference and, dare I say, election fraud. | ||
| We'll be right back after this short break. | ||
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We'll be right back after this short break. | |
| You're back in the war room. | ||
| We're going to get to all the breaking news with Jamie Raskin, Fannie Willis, all these wonderful, lovely people with Jeff Clark. | ||
| But before we pivot to that, just picking up where you left off, you said civil service, right? | ||
| And I think that there's an interesting, it's sort of the other side of the coin of civil society, which has sort of been the moniker that Rachel Maddow and the whole kind of, you know, resistance 2.0 has sort of described their activist cohort or contingent as. | ||
| So I'm curious, though, because there was a long-form piece, I believe it was in the New York Times today, talking about how they're sort of struggling to find their financing, their big conference meeting that they had at the Salamander in Washington, D.C. last week. | ||
| Alex Soros was there. | ||
| But other than that, no one really showed up in terms of billionaires. | ||
| So as the sort of civil society aspect of it is, you know, a little strapped for cash, which make no mistake, they I'm sure will find their cash, they'll look maybe overseas. | ||
| But your thoughts on if you think then as a result, the civil service will sort of be a more important leg of the stool that comprises the resistance? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, I think that the funding for them is not going to dry up. | ||
| And you need to understand that a lot of the resistance is going to be carried out by blue states and blue cities. | ||
| And so their taxpayers are footing the bill to challenge the Trump administration. | ||
| Like Newsom's $25 million fund. | ||
| Newsom, the governor of Washington, the blue state attorney generals. | ||
| And I'm sure that people like Fannie Willis, a local DA in a big city, are going to continue to pursue their destructive lawfare. | ||
| She needs to go on trips with Nathan Wade, okay? | ||
| Please. | ||
| She works really hard. | ||
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She works really hard. | |
| Napa Valley trips where you can drink Grey Goose. | ||
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| There are also a lot of groups that are well-funded generally. | ||
| It's the pop-up groups. | ||
| I saw a lot of new groups created during the Trump administration when I took over the civil division who were bringing immigration litigation. | ||
| thing that- Are those groups still around or do you think they'll create new ones? | ||
| They're still around and I'm sure they'll create some new ones. | ||
| But the point is that those were like relatively new organizations that I'd never heard of before I started defending some of the immigration lawsuits. | ||
| But the environmental groups, like these things have been around for decades and decades. | ||
| They're going to keep trying to bring down President Trump's energy agenda and they're not going anywhere. | ||
| So, you know, it's the augmentation factor for Trump might be a little bit more muted than it was in the first Trump term because of the fact that I think they don't think that Trump's as vulnerable as he was before. | ||
| So I do think we're going to see a lot of resistance inside the bureaucracy. | ||
| I think we're going to see blue states, blue cities pick up with a lot of litigation. | ||
| And then here's the other factor to understand. | ||
| A lot of the big law firms, most of the big law firms have become woke-ified. | ||
| And they'll represent these organizations pro bono. | ||
| You know, when I was litigating the census case in the Northern District of California out of Oakland and Biden took the judge in that case who was totally trying to block everything we were doing and elevated her and put her on the Ninth Circuit. | ||
| And, you know, that was represented, the group there was represented by, you know, a major law firm and the signature block had like four partners on it and then like six associates. | ||
| I mean, it was overwhelming. | ||
| And all of this was legal service at the highest possible quality level being provided for free in order to oppose the Trump administration. | ||
| So we're going to see more of that, too. | ||
| It wasn't attorney Hunter Biden on there to pivot, though, to have sort of the another leg of the stool that is the resistance. | ||
| Well, I think even though they don't have the majority will be Congress like Jamie Raskin. | ||
| You see now sort of working hard to get the top seat on judiciary to unseat Jerry Nadler. | ||
| Your thoughts on why he is positioning himself, particularly wanting to be at the helm of the Judiciary Committee. | ||
| So, look, I mean, you know, as if Jerry Nadler, like he's bad enough in. | ||
| And I remember one of my early experiences was seeing him in action in the minority on the Judiciary Committee going after Bobby Unser, of all people. | ||
| So Bobby Unser, famous race car driver, he happened to like be snow mobiling around and he wandered into a national park because there was a big snowstorm. | ||
| And they tried to like nail him to the wall for that. | ||
| And so there was a hearing trying to expose overregulation and over criminalization in the environmental law area with Bobby Unser as the key witness. | ||
| And Nadler was going after him like he was some kind of murderer or something, right? | ||
| So he's bad. | ||
| But, you know, think back to what happened on the first impeachment, right? | ||
| The Democrats didn't want to even trust Nadler to do that by himself, which was the traditional approach. | ||
| They brought in Adam Schiff, you know, to also have, you know, parallel hearings. | ||
| Adam Schiff, who doesn't think presidents should pardon family members, but I digress. | ||
| He's obviously hypocritical on that, as is President Biden himself, right? | ||
| He said, I'm not going to pardon Hunter. | ||
| Although Whoopi Goldberg on The View told me that it actually wasn't a lie. | ||
| I said, well, here's a dictionary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you watch The View, you need to get some kind of brain disinfectant, I think. | ||
| Could be a good merch line for you. | ||
| Jeff Clark's brain disinfectant. | ||
| So look, I think that Raskin, I mean, he is a true level of radical. | ||
| And he's also more dangerous because he's smarter and he's trained as a law professor and Nadler is not. | ||
| He's all in with the Mark Elias people. | ||
| He's always doing their events. | ||
| He's part of that apparatus. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And his father is a known communist and there was a big heritage report in the 80s about how he was working with the Soviets. | ||
| So he's bad news. | ||
| He comes from a family where he learned the communism around the table. | ||
| The Democrats, the radical, more radical progressive Democrats are getting very impatient. | ||
| They say they believe in norms when they can try to weaponize it against President Trump, but they're ignoring the norms of seniority on committees and the like when it's convenient to them to be able to try to oppose and restrict and obstruct President Trump yet again. | ||
| Yeah, that whole color revolution brigade of people, they seem to be quite hypocritical, but maybe that's because they have no real principles to stand for other than, I don't know, the destruction of this country. | ||
| Just a thought, but to that point of people who are intent on the destruction of this country, Fannie Willis. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Big Fannie, as Mike Davis would say, will pay homage to him. | ||
| Interesting FOIA case between her and Judicial Watches. | ||
| Tom Fitton, can you walk the audience through the latest on that? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, you know, Tom and Judicial Watch, using local counsel down in Georgia, they asked for materials under the Open Government Act in Georgia, the equivalent of FOIA on the Georgia state side. | ||
| And they wanted to see what evidence there was, what documents there were of coordination between Fannie Willis And the January 6th committee and between Fannie Willis and the Biden White House counsel's office. | ||
| Of course, we're told that Joe Biden and his people have nothing to do with anything like that happening on the state level. | ||
| And, you know, there are documents, there is correspondence between these federal authorities and Fonnie Willis. | ||
| Indeed, you know, at a personal level, I can tell you that I called for these materials through my lawyers. | ||
| And the judge actually declined to give them to us. | ||
| And he put the information under seal. | ||
| So I can't see it. | ||
| My lawyers can't see it. | ||
| But there's something there. | ||
| And so Fonnie Willis, you know, denied this, you know, state FOIA request of Judicial Watch and said, you know, we don't have any responsive documents. | ||
| And pointing to things like I just described my own personal experience and other indicators that there actually is correspondence that is responsive to the FOIA request, the Open Government Act request, they sued. | ||
| And Fannie Willis did not show up to defend that case, didn't file a brief, and the judge entered a default judgment against Fannie Willis and said, you must produce those documents within five business days. | ||
| So next Tuesday, we should see what she coughs up. | ||
| And, you know, I think if she doesn't cough something up, she's potentially at contempt risk from the judge who entered that order. | ||
| Our gray goose girl is going to have to show some goods, show some receipts. | ||
| I want to bring in real quick, we got Liz Harrington, by the way. | ||
| We've promoted Jeff Clark to co-host with me for the hour. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I've deputized you as a war room co-host. | ||
| Liz Harrington joins us now. | ||
| Speaking of Georgia, I know you were tweeting up a storm today about how Fulton County has sued the state election board to try to avoid handing over records related to the 2020 election. | ||
| Can you walk us through that? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Thanks so much, Natalie. | ||
| Well, we covered a similar instance a couple months back with Fulton County hiring a high-priced attorney at $600 an hour to avoid an independent monitor over the 2024 election. | ||
| And both of these instances stem from the historic State Election Board case, 2023-025, which proved that the 2020 election results, the recount, was fraudulent. | ||
| They counted duplicate ballots. | ||
| They were tens of thousands of votes short. | ||
| The whole thing was a fraud. | ||
| The state election board has been keeping this case alive. | ||
| They voted to subpoena all of these election records, which Fulton County has been hiding for over four years now. | ||
| They issued this subpoena. | ||
| Fulton County had a deadline to respond by November 18th. | ||
| And what did they do on November 18th? | ||
| They hired the same law firm without a vote of the board of commissioners in Fulton County, just unilaterally the chairperson, hired back this attorney, filed a lawsuit against the state election board to try to quash this subpoena, which would reveal all of the records from filed a lawsuit against the state election board to try to quash this subpoena, which would reveal all of the records from 2020 having to deal with the mail-in ballots, the tabulation tapes, the open tapes, the closed tapes, many of which are missing, by the way, and have the closed | ||
| And so to this day, they're now lawyering up once again, trying to get it to a friendly judge to avoid having to turn over the records of what they claimed was the most secure election in history. | ||
| And this just proves once again that Fulton County has so much to hide. | ||
| They are so corrupt. | ||
| They do not run fair elections. | ||
| And I really hope the state election board continues to pursue this because they're going to keep rigging their elections down in Fulton County unless somebody stops them. | ||
| So, Liz, what possible explanation could they have, reason, you know, not to give the state election board, right, who are in charge of overseeing the elections, the information that the state election board has subpoenaed? | ||
| It seems to be a head-scratcher. | ||
| It absolutely is, Jeff. | ||
| It's Insane. | ||
| And this is the same type of thing that they did before, because the state election board has the right to look at these records. | ||
| They've blocked Dr. Janice Johnston for probably over a year now in looking at these records. | ||
| Brad Raffensperger's general counsel, Charlene McGowan, actually held a lot of these records hostage from members of the own state election board. | ||
| Because they didn't want them to see them if they would promise, the state election board, if they would promise to drop this case, if they would promise not to say that this case was closed. | ||
| And they said, we're not going to do that. | ||
| You can't close a case when all your underlying evidence you won't let us see. | ||
| That is supposed to be the basis for why you would close it. | ||
| And so this is the same thing here. | ||
| We've seen Raffensperger's office work in conjunction with Fulton County in trying to get the, you know, former general counsel for Raffensperger to lead the monitoring team. | ||
| They were coordinating together to try to not have an independent monitor over the 2024 election. | ||
| So it's all the same thing. | ||
| There's no real legal basis, but unfortunately, as you know, Jeff, Some of these judges down in Georgia don't always follow the law either. | ||
| Liz Harrington, if people want to follow you, keep up to date on all of this. | ||
| I know you're always ahead of the curve. | ||
| Where can they go to do that? | ||
| Warroom.org and on X and True Social at RealLizUSA. | ||
| A must follow. | ||
| Liz, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Warren Posse, hang with us through this short break. | ||
| Maybe in the meantime, go check out birchgold.com slash Bannon or Sacred Human Health. | ||
| I know Jeff Clark is big on the beef liver crisps. | ||
| I haven't tried them yet. | ||
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Okay, we're going to have to work on that if you want to be a host. | |
| They're on my list. | ||
| That's a good euphemistic spin. | ||
| We'll take it. | ||
| Sacredhumanhealth.com. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | |
| You are back in the war room, Natalie Winters and my wonderful esteemed co-host, Jeff Clark. | ||
| Now, I know we're told by the mainstream media that we're crazy for wanting to use what President Trump's mandate overwhelming victory to look into 2020 election fraud. | ||
| I know. | ||
| All the MSNBC hosts, which we commiserate in how much we love watching them, are melting down at that prospect. | ||
| So can you sort of walk us through your opinion, your analysis as to how the best way to go about adjudicating that affair, that skullduggery? | ||
| I just love that word. | ||
| But that Liz was sort of alluding to in the last block, but it's obviously, you know, broader than just the state of Georgia. | ||
| Look, you know, there were people at the Justice Department who took the position that the Justice Department doesn't have a role in investigating state elections. | ||
| And that's just manifestly untrue. | ||
| And, you know, that's why the Biden administration was sending monitors. | ||
| In terms of the election, it's why the acting assistant attorney general at the start of the Biden administration sent a letter to those in Arizona who were doing the audit telling them, Don't go do the canvas, that we're going to view that as election interference and intimidation of voters. | ||
| Pamela Carlin. | ||
| Right, Pamela Carlin, who also got a special ethics exception to continue collecting her $900,000 a year Stanford law salary while she worked for the Justice Department. | ||
| Meanwhile, I was forced to resign my unpaid position from the Federalist Society when I started in the Trump administration, double standard much. | ||
| Well, that's because you weren't an impeachment witness. | ||
| You left that off her resume, too, right? | ||
| You didn't smear Barron Trump. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, that's payment for services rendered to the party. | ||
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| Look, I think the Justice Department, Natalie, needs to look at the 2020 election and deeply investigate it. | ||
| And I know that from what President Trump has said publicly, he wants that to happen. | ||
| And that can be unfolded in stages. | ||
| And I'd also like to see, particularly since the Republicans control both houses of Congress, for the Judiciary Committee on both houses to start investigating as well. | ||
| I think that that's a look back that the people of America really want to see happen. | ||
| And I don't think they're buying the idea that asking those kinds of questions and demanding that kind of investigation... | ||
| Is all part of, you know, crazy conspiracy thinking. | ||
| Here we are four years later, and we still can't see the information that the state election board wants to get from Fulton County. | ||
| I mean, that's ipso facto something that smells to the high heavens. | ||
| In the law, there's this principle that if you destroy evidence, right, that spoliation and negative inferences can be taken against you for destroying evidence. | ||
| At this point, four years, if you're stonewalling and you're not turning the evidence over so that it can be looked at independently, That really smells very, very bad. | ||
| Well, and I think it's quite interesting, too, when you sort of juxtapose this whole election meltdown narrative. | ||
| They're always hammering on MSNBC that, oh, the American people didn't know what they were voting for when they supported Trump. | ||
| They didn't want the deportations. | ||
| They didn't want the retribution. | ||
| Don't culturally appropriate us, MSNBC. We know exactly what we want and what we voted for. | ||
| But I think the sort of other side of the coin there is Is this idea that, well, you know, when it comes to looking into stolen elections, that, oh, suddenly they've moved on from the election integrity effort, right? | ||
| People are no longer—that's not true at all. | ||
| The only reason that we won was because we were able to actually make it too big to rig by really staking out. | ||
| The Warren Posse played such a critical role, and that sort of boots-on-the-ground form of fraud, obviously. | ||
| Mark Zuckerberg's contributions of probably a billion dollars. | ||
| Help just a little bit, so thanks for coming to Mar-a-Lago, but we'll maybe pass on that. | ||
| Jeff, I think we're going to have to bring Mike Lindell on, but I will say I'm going to give you a chance to redeem yourself. | ||
| You have to choose between Government Gangsters the film or Rebels, Rogues, and Outlaws the book, which I feel like you were at the launch party for both. | ||
| You can only choose one. | ||
| Which one do you go with? | ||
| I can't choose my own movie. | ||
| I think I would choose Government Gangsters because it's a movie, and so I like moving pictures, but I do think the book's excellent as well. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| We just killed two ad reads. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And Jeff Clark. | ||
| Pimp yourself out where people want to follow you. | ||
| Get all the books, everything. | ||
| Where can they go? | ||
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All right. | |
| Without endorsing that handoff. | ||
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We're standing, so it's super casual. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| So you caused my earpiece to pop out with that one. | ||
| So I'm Jeff Clark at JeffClarkUS on X and Getter. | ||
| And at RealJeffClark on Truth Social. | ||
| And you can follow the doings of the Center for Renewing America at americarenewing.com. | ||
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Thank you for co-hosting with me. | |
| Always an honor and a pleasure. | ||
| Mike Lindell, someone who is also an honor and a pleasure to have on War Room. | ||
| Hit us with the latest. | ||
| Well, I do want to say, Natalie, that the 2020 election, my team, we're getting it out there. | ||
| We will never stop. | ||
| You go to LyndalePlan.com, you can learn all about it. | ||
| We've got it all, we've had it all, and we will get this to fruition where we will end up in our country with paper ballots and counting. | ||
| But all that being said, that's why they attacked me. | ||
| That's why the IRS just two weeks ago, now they're attacking me again before this administration leaves. | ||
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| Although I think with promo code Biden, you get even a better deal where you can commit, what, decades worth of crimes against the American people and get off scot-free, right? | ||
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Living in Joe Biden's America is. | |
| Mike Lindell, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| And Warren Posse, thank you for hanging with me for this hour. | ||
| And of course, Jeff Clark, thank you for burying me for this last hour. | ||
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Don't worry, Stephen K. Bannon will be back tomorrow morning. | |
| In the meantime, I hope you guys have a good one. |
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