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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Tuesday, 26 November, year of earlier, 2024. We've got a lot to get through in this hour.
I want to keep Michelle Morrow over.
She ran a historic race for superintendent education.
And folks in this audience don't need to be reminded of the parents' rights movement and how important that was in these victories and how important it is going forward because the work is far from done.
Actually, we've just started.
But Michelle, what I wanted to have you on is you're starting to answer the question that people are sitting there going, how did Trump win and we lost everywhere else?
Understanding there was a issue at the governor's level in the governor's race and you got a guy like Stein in there that's about as radical as you can get.
The question for you, the audience wants to know, is how are you and other MAGA leaders in the Tar Heel State going to begin to churn the grand old party, controlled by the donor class and these kind of hidebound old guard elitists, to a gathering of patriots, ma'am?
unidentified
Well, it's really a numbers game.
And we need for everyone that wants the agenda of faith and freedom and family, where we want safe and prosperous and educated young people.
We want to promote The greatness of America and return to being a constitutional republic.
Everyone that voted for that, that voted for President Trump.
You need to align yourself with the Republican Party so that you can be there to choose the leadership.
As we move into 2025, we're going to have local leadership at the county level as well as statewide elections.
But you have to be a part of that process.
And we need to be the ones that own this.
When constitutional values rule the day, when we have truth and justice and righteousness, everyone wins.
It doesn't matter what party you're in.
And that was one of the reasons why I ran for Superintendent of Public Instruction, because I think education is the key.
Why we lost was because there was hundreds of millions of dollars That was dumped into advertising.
And we just didn't have the money to be able to get our message out to the people.
And unfortunately, when you're being bombarded every day in your mailbox on everything you watch, being told that all of these people are dangerous people and you cannot vote for them, that's what ended up happening.
And so what we need is we need this to be back to the people, having conversations, because the reality is the majority of us want the same thing.
We want a healthy future.
We want our children to be well-educated, to be critical thinkers, for them to be able to be the leaders that we need to remain safe, prosperous, and free.
And so we need to start that in our local level.
We need this to be a place where people want to come.
They want to be with like-minded people, and they're ready to engage.
Because, Steve, you know we will not remain a constitutional republic if we just vote in a primary and in a general election.
This is supposed to be us working every day to maintain that the United States remains a city on a hill and we are a place of hope.
For the rest of the world.
So I am totally devoted.
There were 2.7 million people that want education to be reformed.
And I am going to do everything I can to push forth President Trump's agenda to make education great again in the entire United States.
And so I think that's where it starts because we have got to get back our children's minds because every totalitarian regime has gone for the children and has lied to them in order to get them to believe That capitalism is wrong and that they want to be socialists or communists or whatever it might be.
So I think that is the heart of it.
But we need everybody to engage, everybody to register Republican so that we can transform this party from the inside out.
You cannot change it if you're not a part of it.
That's just how the game is played.
steve bannon
Michelle, how do people, the audience wants to know how they get in touch with you, social media, website, all of it, because there are a lot of folks that want to assist you in this effort to transform North Carolina.
unidentified
Well, I'm on social media platforms.
I'm Michelle Morrow4nc.
And also my website, which is still up from my campaign, is Morrow4nc.com.
That's M-O-R-R, the number 4nc.com.
And pay attention because we've got some exciting things happening on the national front with education because, as I said, this is what I'm going to continue to fight for to ensure that President Trump's agenda reaches it, not Only into North Carolina, but to all 50 states.
steve bannon
Ma'am, thank you.
Honored to have you on here.
We love fighters, and we love a rising generation of fighters.
So thank you.
unidentified
Well, thank you so much.
steve bannon
Michelle Morrow down in the great Tar Heel state of North Carolina.
Here's one of the things, and you're seeing this in the new Trump.
It's not evident now, but it's going to be quite evident very shortly.
There's a lot of incredible young talent coming into the...
Into the Trump administration, second Trump term.
Third victory, second term.
And part of that was done, or to a large extent this is being done, by all those organizations, though, over the last couple of years, a lot of you people went to the training seminars, a lot of people signed up.
Whether it's Project 2025 or what AFPI did or some of these other organizations, they make sure people started to network, started to get together and became – were subject matter experts but got refined.
I take it, Alex, we still haven't gotten up yet.
We have one of the great young warriors who was in the White House with President Trump the first time.
And I believe – and this is why I want to talk about building cadres.
If you think about Sergio Gore, and Sergio's over at the President's Personnel Office, PPO. Very important, very powerful office.
kind of does the screening and help to make sure they slot people in for the interviews.
So that President Trump gets folks that believe in his ideology and have his backing and drive his agenda forward.
You think of Stephen Miller.
Stephen is really with Homans.
Homans, the deportations are Stephen will be in the White House.
Again, he's assistant to the president, deputy chief of staff, assistant to the president for policy.
And that's a broad mandate.
And Stephen's about as smart as they get.
You know, I met Sergio and Stephen, I want to say 14 years ago, 16 years ago, when they were staffers for Michelle Bachman.
And this was Michelle Bachman was becoming a firebrand in the Tea Party.
I made a film about the women of the Tea Party, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and others, called Fire from the Heartland.
And I got to meet Sergio then, Miller.
They, shortly thereafter, decamped.
Miller went to Jeff Sessions in the Senate and became Jeff Sessions at the time before he had a not-the-best run as Attorney General.
It was absolutely magnificent in the Senate for making sure that open borders, amnesty, all of it was shut down.
And Stephen Miller was absolutely critical of that.
He was kind of the master thinker for the great defense we had in the Senate in all those years.
And Sergio went over and worked for Rand Paul and was a fantastic then.
And now they both ended up in the second term in President Trump's White House.
This is called building cadres and building teams.
And I think – I may have this wrong, but this gets back to one of the reasons Peter Navarro, Dr. Navarro is so important – Navarro is not simply important for what he does in backing the president and the great books he's written and the ideas about economic nationalism and populism, populist economic policies, tariffs, taking on the CCP.
Because Peter's with me.
Peter's been fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party.
That started on the 20th of January 2021 right afternoon when they sanctioned myself, I think Pompeo, and Peter Navarro.
I was a civilian at the time, but those two guys were in the White House.
Peter forms another function, and you see this with people in President Trump's orbit, and that is to train up a next rising generation of superstars.
And I think in Peter's shop over in EOB, you had three—I think Alex was part of it—but you had Joanna Miller— Who's an absolute rock star and will be back, I believe, strongly in the Trump White House in the second term.
Probably something regarding manufacturing.
She's a young woman that has really made manufacturing, just American-made manufacturing, high-value-added American jobs, one of the centerpieces of her professional life.
She's absolutely a fierce warrior and a rock star.
You also have the Garrett Ziegler.
Garrett is a little out there, but that's good.
You need that.
He's kind of an armor-piercing shell, a couple of notches down from President Trump.
But Garrett, he's got the program – Abby Lowell sold him every other day.
He's after the Biden family.
But he's an absolute hammer.
He came with a shot.
Alex Gray joins us.
Alex, I know you're in the National Security Council, but didn't you start, maybe I'm wrong, didn't you start with Peter Navarro and Joanna Miller and Ziegler over in his shop, or were you always at the National Security Council?
No.
unidentified
Hey, Steve, I'm a proud Peter Navarro alum.
I was his first deputy on day one.
steve bannon
First deputy.
So that's what you guys, I want to give you a hat tip, that's what I remember.
You guys did such a great job of nurturing.
These people are either going to come back in the White House or other parts of the administration or in outside groups at senior levels driving the narrative.
And so for the audience, this is a continual process of rejuvenation.
And what we have to do is train up those young cadres coming in.
And I will tell you, I feel so overwhelmingly confident of the talent we have.
You're seeing now kind of the bro culture and the Joe Rogan's, that's great, and we need more of that.
But you have, from 16, an incredible team that's really going to come in at the next level right now and be in a senior level in policy.
Alex, I hope you're part of that.
You've got a piece in the Wall Street Journal today that, with everything going on and all the madness going on, I keep telling people Watch this guy, Alex Gray, and watch this piece he's written.
Tell me about everything we've got going on.
We've got an invasion on the southern border.
We've got to deport 10 million people.
We have to stop the war in Ukraine.
We've got to stop and help Israel stop this madness in the Middle East.
We've got the Taiwan that we can't let the CCP take it.
We've got the 36 trillion in debt, and we're adding a trillion every 100 days.
Alex, you're a smart guy.
You know how to prioritize.
With all of that madness going on, Why is Alex Gray one of the smartest young thinkers and men of action we've got in our movement and probably, hopefully, be back in the White House administration?
Why, sir, are you in the pages of the Wall Street Journal saying we should buy, President Trump should buy Greenland?
unidentified
Well, thanks, Steve.
It's always great to be back with you.
I'm saying we need to come up with a solution to get Greenland When it eventually declares independence from Denmark, which it will, which it says it will, it needs to have a relationship with us because for two reasons.
One, you're a Navy vet.
You know that Greenland sits on the key sea lanes between Europe and the United States.
And if Greenland falls into the orbit of China, which has declared itself preposterously to be a near-Arctic state, One, and they have expressed interest in taking as much of Greenland as they can.
That's a direct threat to the U.S. homeland.
And two, Greenland sits on some of the most extraordinary natural resources in the world.
Everything, rare earth elements, critical minerals, oil, uranium, you name it.
This island of 30,000 people declares independence, has no protector from a larger power.
It will be gobbled up by our adversaries.
And not only will we lose out on the resources that matter, but it will then become a direct threat to our sovereignty and our security if it's in someone else's orbit.
steve bannon
Alex, I'm going to ask you to hang on for a second.
I want to maybe, hopefully, if we can't get you rebooted and actually see you, we'll make sure we get you back on here on the phone.
But I want you to stay for the next segment.
In the war room, what Alex is talking about strategically, part of it's called the Gajuk gap, the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap.
That gap, the Soviet submarines, particularly the boomers, the fast attacks also, but particularly the boomers, they have to come through that gap.
That is where you either pick them up there or you get a big problem.
Greenland is absolutely critical To the vital national security.
Unlike the eastern Russian-speaking border of Ukraine, Greenland, and that gap between Greenland, Iceland, and the UK. We got that submarine base up in Scotland that we use.
Folks, that is big league in the vital national security interests of these United States of America.
And that is not empire building.
President Trump kicked us around in the first term.
A brilliant young man, Alex Gray, has laid it out in the pages of the Wall Street Journal.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
We're trying to pull the clip.
There's actually an amazing clip in the show, The Diplomat, that talks about the importance of that.
And Captain Fennell corrects my natural cracker accent.
He says the G-I-U-K gap, which means Greenland, Iceland, the U.K., And I think we're kind of non-classified.
That's where we basically pick up the Soviet subs coming out of the sub-base up to, I think, Murmansk.
Archangel, I think it's Murmansk.
They come out of the sub-base of Murmansk.
They've got to come through there.
And they've picked up, particularly the boomers.
Alex Gray.
So once again, walk me through this.
Why is it important?
The rare earths, the strategic...
The importance of it.
Remember, we did occupy, I think we occupied Iceland as one of the first moves we made in World War II. Why is this, with everything we got going on, and you work for Navarro, so you're in the middle, you were in the middle of the nightmare of tariffs and China and the southern border and using the tariffs to stop the invasion.
Why are you saying with everything out there that Greenland's something we ought to take a hard look at?
unidentified
Well, I'm saying, Steve, we need to take a hard look at it, because if we don't, the adversary, China, is going to take advantage of the fact that we're distracted, that we've overextended ourselves, we're distracted, we've got an invasion on the southern border, we're not focused on another key part of defending our own hemisphere.
And you're right, look, People have been talking about buying Greenland since Abraham Lincoln's time because statesmen have understood that control of Greenland, whether it's the sea lanes, what you talked about, the gap, whether it's just having the ability with air bases to project power into our hemisphere, this is a strategic location of the first order.
And if we take our eye off the ball, even with everything else that's happening, we're going to wake up And we're going to have Chinese state-owned enterprises with Chinese labor mining critical minerals, which they already have a near monopoly of globally, mining them in Greenland.
You're going to have the Chinese putting bases.
And port access agreements in Greenland like they do in the Pacific.
You're going to wake up and you're going to find the Chinese using Greenland as a base to distract us further and to hold us hostage so they can do what they want to do in the Indo-Pacific.
And that's why I'm so adamant about this, Steve.
We've got to take this opportunity while we've got it.
steve bannon
You know, in the Indo-Pacific, you have right now the British Labor government is trying to give away Diego Garcia, and I can tell you as a guy that In the Pacific Fleet, the 7th Fleet, we were deployed during the hostage crisis to the North Arabian Sea, to the Persian Gulf, and you can't sustain.
The United States Navy is not sustainable if Mauritius takes back Diego Garcia and gives it to the Chinese.
Geostrategically, you were there with Navarro.
How tough is the second term?
You know, Xi just put out the four red lines in that meeting down with the hapless Biden.
Give me your sense of geostrategically and geoeconomically.
How tough is the second term going to be in really the showdown with the United States and the Chinese Communist Party, sir?
unidentified
It's going to be – unfortunately, Steve, President Trump is starting from a much more difficult position than he left with.
And the number one reason, in my view, is because the military balance in the Indo-Pacific, and particularly in the South China Sea and the Taiwan Strait, has been allowed to atrophy from our perspective.
And frankly, the immediate military balance in the Strait Every day is beginning to tilt more and more in China's favor.
And what that does, in addition to the fact that we have lost deterrence globally because of the weakness that Biden and his team have projected, the fact that this military balance is emboldening, the lack of it is emboldening China, and it's weakening our allies and our partners.
And this lack of deterrence globally is going to lead, I think, to President Trump having to make some really tough choices.
And it's going to force him, I think, in my view, fixing that balance, Steve, getting our shipbuilding capacity back, getting our industrial base rebuilt.
That is the first way to restore deterrence, because that's what Xi is watching from Beijing, is what is our capacity to deter, and if necessary, to fight and win in the Taiwan Strait and the South China Sea.
steve bannon
Alex, you were there in the first term.
If you look, and I realize people say some of these guys are neocons, but if you look, you've got Waltz, who's the toughest anti-CCP guy in the House.
You've got Rubio, and for all of Rubio's kind of neocon tendencies, he's the toughest anti-CCP guy in the Senate and wrote that brilliant report that outs the Chinese Communist Party leadership.
For all the money they've made off the Chinese people, which is a brilliant way.
That's the way you drive a wedge between Lao Beijing and the CCP. You got Hex at the fence, who's another China hawk.
You got Navarro, probably in all likelihood going to the White House, a super China hawk.
You got Lighthizer, who I think will be named something, another China hawk.
You got Besant at Treasury, a China hawk.
If you look at it from the accommodationists and really the surrender group that Biden has, because obviously Biden took money from them, this, if you're Xi and you're in Beijing, this is a pretty tough group of hombres that, and you got Tulsi Gabbard, you got, you know, you cross the board, you've got people, Radcliffe, you've got people that have come out and are pretty anti-CCP, do you not, sir?
unidentified
You do.
It's their worst nightmare.
To go from the Jake Sullivan, Tony Blinken team to Pete Hegseth, Mike Waltz, Marco Rubio, Tulsi Gabbard, John Ratcliffe, Peter Navarro, that is quite the step up.
And honestly, that alone is its own form of deterrence because it's going to show the Chinese from day one that the people surrounding President Trump The people who he's going to be listening to are people who have a reputation for understanding the threat and seeing it with clear eyes.
And I think as we fix the military balance, as we fix some of the other failures, just having those people there is going to be a huge boost to our ability to keep Beijing in check.
steve bannon
Alex, how do people get to you on social media?
I want everybody, if Grace and Mo were kind enough to push out this Wall Street Journal op-ed piece.
I'm so glad the Wall Street Journal is publishing things more than Karl Rove's hate of President Trump.
So Murdoch's good on you today.
You got something that we can get our teeth into and chew on for a while.
It's really very thought-provoking because it lays out the geostrategic issues facing the United States of America against its rival today.
The Chinese Communist Party, particularly up in the Arctic.
Alex, where do people get you?
unidentified
You can find me at AlexGrey4OK on X. And thanks for having me on, Steve.
steve bannon
Thanks, brother.
Look forward to having you back.
Maybe we can work that.
I can't do it.
I can't, you know, I can't get on a Zoom call.
I can't get the Skype up.
You know, I'm the worst.
Of course, I am 70 years old.
On the cusp, on the eve of going next level.
But I guess that's an excuse.
But it's always better when we get guys on for the actual TV. So we'll work on Alex next time.
Alex lays out something that's quite important, and that is the makeup of President Trump's cabinet when it comes to The geostrategic nature of it.
Remember, the Chinese Communist Party is the railhead of evil.
When you look at this access that's been put together that I've argued about for years between the mullahs in Tehran and the Russians, not the Russian people, but the KGB in Moscow, if you allow that access to come together, we've got a big league problem.
Because all of a sudden you have three great capitals of ancient civilizations and the Persians in Tehran, the Chinese in Beijing and the Russian people and the Slavs in Moscow united on the Eurasian landmass and particularly the central Eurasian landmass Mackinder 101, you've got a big problem because they control the World Island.
And he who controls the World Island controls the world.
That's what we're up against.
And the globalists, the elites in this country have sold us out to the Chinese Communist Party.
But President Trump is – and President Trump is a dealmaker.
President Trump kind of sees where things are going strategically, tries to drive it in that direction.
But he's a man of peace and prosperity.
He does not want an outright confrontation that's going to lead to a shooting war.
I think that's pretty evident.
That's why people put him back in.
They're tired of these wars, and particularly the forever wars.
With the Chinese Communist Party, we have an enemy.
An enemy of its own people, an enemy of all mankind, and particularly an enemy of the Free Republic of the United States of America.
Now I realize we've got to take care of business first here.
We have to disaggregate this American empire that the founders and revolutionary generation never intended for us to have.
But we have to face reality when it comes to global enemies.
The Chinese Communist Party is one.
But I think if you look, President Trump is lining up, and I forgot to put Seb Gorka in there.
If you look at Navarro and Seb Gorka, Scott Besson at Treasury, you've got Tulsi, he's going to be head of DNI, Ratcliffe over at CIA. Of course, Marco Rubio and Waltz, who people say, well, there's neocons.
Well, I think their neocon tendencies are being tamped down, and their anti-CCP endeavors are being ramped up.
President Trump is going to have a team around him.
That the cut of their jib, I really like.
And I say that probably the most rabid of the anti-CCP folks out here.
I'm proud to be that.
Proud to be one of the co-founders of the new federal state of China to represent a remnant of the Chinese people of Rilao Beijing throughout the world.
That is number one objective and goal is to take down the CCP, let the Lao Bai Jing, the common man and woman in China, take down the CCP and get their own freedom.
I will tell you, the moment that happens, the world is going to be on a real path to peace and prosperity.
Because the evil they spread throughout the world, the destruction they've given to the great Chinese people is pretty unbelievable.
Probably the worst of the worst.
And that's saying something.
When you've got Stalin and Hitler, if you look at Mao and the folks that picked up from Mao, As bad as they get, as bad as they get in world history, killed hundreds of millions of Chinese, slaughtered them in the 20th and the 21st century.
Remember, they're the ones that let the bioweapon of COVID out.
Okay?
Just always remember that.
And we have never talked about, and don't talk enough about reparations on that.
Okay, Billy String's going to take us out from the Book of Revelations and St. John the Evangelist, Johnny Cash, when the man comes around.
Back in the moment.
unidentified
Some are born and some are died.
It's Alpha and Omega's kingdom now.
And the whirlwind is in the thorn tree.
The virgins are trimming their wicks.
The whirlwind is in the palm trees.
It's hard for thee to kick against the bricks.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mack.
steve bannon
Talk about serendipity.
We had scheduled Aaron Czar over at Silent Company, slnt.com.
It has the great Faraday bags.
Boy, the tee-up for the Chinese Communist Party because they're listening to everything.
They're in your equipment.
All this talk now that they've hacked everybody, right?
Hacked government officials.
I think they hacked Biden's phone.
They've hacked everybody.
Talk to me about how you protect from that.
You've got a product line that you and your family have come up with that is the best in class.
So tell us about it and tell us about the threat.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Good to see you again.
At the end of the day, we all have devices like this phone, we have laptops, we have tablets, and the common thread between all of them is that they're emitting and receiving signal and there's a transfer of data to countless different Businesses and governments, and no one reads the privacy policy.
No one changes settings.
So it really has come time, and it's been years of this in the making, where the threat to our freedoms, the threat to our civil liberties is just so abundant that you have to take a tool and implement it into your life to at least have a sliver of peace of mind.
And that's what we feel like we've done with this silent brand.
Silence stands to empower humanity, the right to disconnect.
That is our mission statement.
And what we create around that is a really beautiful product line.
So we're doing awesome Black Friday promotion right now, up to 50% off site-wide.
And the nice thing is that these aren't hard products to understand, and they look good.
So you could adopt anything from one of our jackets, one of our backpacks, or our privacy starter kit, where you could get protection for your key fob, you could get protection for your phone, and you could get protection for even covering webcams like this so no one's spying on you.
It's just...
We're all aware that the war room posse that's listening to this show right now is even more aware of what's at stake.
And what's at stake is our privacy and security, as well as our health as well.
And it is just like overwhelmingly time to do something about it.
And Cylon is a component that allows you to take a step in the right direction.
And we make beautiful products.
So you could remain fashionable, look good, travel.
It's an amazing time to think about the privacy and security of your own family or your own business.
And it's the season of gifting.
So getting products for people that need to take a step in the right direction or need to understand what's at stake.
I put that all to the War Room Posse and spread the word around what Silent can do, what signal-blocking Faraday bags can do.
They're not fringe.
It's not paranoia.
It's just the state of the world and what's actually happening.
But the control that you can gain from these type of products is amazing.
You put your to GPS, RFID, and NFC, actually blocking it without turning your phone off, it's incredible.
Turning your phone off is not off.
It's still trackable.
They'll wake up.
Airplane mode is lipstick on a pig.
You know, it's just not cutting it.
It's a soft switch.
We're talking about a physical shutdown as if you were to remove the power source from your phone and your laptop by utilizing the silent products.
So it's...
I don't know.
We've been doing this for 14 years and there's never been a more heightened time to adopt these types of products than right now.
And I'll probably keep saying that for years to come.
It's almost our take on remaining optimistic.
Remaining optimistic that humans can actually have control over technology and the threat of technology and how it could Aaron,
steve bannon
to be on the right side of history, where do they go again?
I want to make sure everybody goes to the right place.
Where do they go right now?
unidentified
SLNT.com.
No coupon code needed.
All the products are already discounted up to 50% off.
We have deals of the day in bundles, so SLNT.com.
It's a Black Friday sale.
We are not giving away product, but our products are very premium and we're offering really healthy discounts to allow you to save some money and adopt privacy and security much easier.
All the different products that you go through there.
Whatever fits for you, click the product, check it out.
We do free returns.
We want to get you products that make a difference in your life.
This isn't just some backpack off the shelf that looks cool.
This isn't just a sleeve for physical protection.
This is a stance against the intrusion of your own personal lives, really.
So take a stance against that.
And again, I'll say it.
The products look good.
And we also offer EMP protection.
So, protect solar panels, protect battery backups.
We're facing World War III. We're facing really critical times.
Ownership over your fate, I think, is extremely important.
And these products help serve that.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Be on the right side of history.
Don't let the deep state or the Chinese Communist Party or any foreign actor or bad actor, cyber actor, get into your business.
Aaron Czar, thank you.
Appreciate what you guys have been doing.
14 years at it.
Top of the line, best in the second.
unidentified
14 years, yeah.
steve bannon
Thank you, man.
unidentified
Bye.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Let's go ahead and play.
We got Tom Homan.
We got Brother Holman.
Let's hear Holman talking about the mass deportations.
sean hannity
Out there in Colorado, I want to get your reaction to it.
And I want you to be clear about who has jurisdiction, the federal government or state and local governments.
And if you're a sanctuary state or city, are you breaking the law?
tom homan
Absolutely breaking law.
All you have to do is look at Arizona versus U.S. and you'll see these breaking laws.
But look, me and the Denver mayor, we agree on one thing.
He's willing to go to jail.
I'm willing to put him in jail.
Because there's a statute.
It's Title 8, United States Code 1324, IIII. And what it says is, it's a felony if you knowingly harbor and conceal an illegal alien from immigration authorities.
It's also a felony to impede a federal law enforcement officer.
So if we don't want to help That's fine.
He can get the hell out of the way.
But we're going to go do the job.
President Trump has a mandate for American people.
We've got to secure this country.
We've got to save American lives.
And I find it shocking that any mayor of a city would say, and President Trump's been clear, we want to concentrate on public safety threats and national security threats.
I find it hard to believe that any mayor or governor would say they don't want public safety threats removed from their neighborhoods.
I mean, I don't know what the hell is going on in Denver, but we're going to go and we're going to fix it.
If you don't want to fix it, if you don't want to protect these communities, President Trump and ICE will.
sean hannity
So you will be going into Colorado, Illinois, New York, California, and you are going to uphold the law of the land.
That's your commitment.
It doesn't matter what these elected politicians threaten or say that they're going to do.
tom homan
We're going to enforce the law, period.
And they're not going to stop us.
steve bannon
Okay.
I think the Washington Post has an article out today about this very topic on the sanctuary cities.
I think yours truly is quoted.
We will pull that article up right after the show and maybe push it out.
Here's the point.
This gets back to...
We had the nullification project in President Trump's first term.
That was Comey, the FBI, the intelligence community.
And folks, you know, Brennan and Comey and McCabe.
You see McCabe on TV crying all the time and whining.
But having to leave the country.
That is all going to be investigated.
Those dots are all going to be connected.
And you guys, I believe strongly, will be prosecuted and then incarcerated in federal prisons for what you attempted to do in the first term of President Trump against the American people and against this free republic.
So that's all coming.
But I want to harken back.
They had a thing called the Nullification Crisis, I think, of 1832. In Andrew Jackson's, I think it was in Jackson's presidency, General Jackson, our first populace that kind of changed the direction of the United States, that kind of took it away from the elites of Massachusetts and the Commonwealth of Virginia, my beloved home state,
that kind of had the Jeffersons and the Adams and the General Washington and the Munroes and the Madisons that had been the presidents of the country for the first, that kind of had the Jeffersons and the Adams and the General Washington and the Munroes and And then in 1832, I guess it was longer than that, I guess almost 40 years, maybe 50 years.
Jackson came in, and it was about tariffs in South Carolina.
The landed aristocracy down there.
Remember, Charleston, I think, had more at the time, quote-unquote, billionaires than any place on earth.
The landed aristocracy of South Carolina was quite wealthy and quite powerful.
They didn't like Jackson's economic policies, and they were with John C. Calhoun, who I think was his vice president at the time, were going to challenge that and said, hey, you may have all these federal laws, may have these tariffs, but But we're South Carolina and we're going to basically – we're going to enforce what we want to enforce and not enforce the rest.
And we're just going to nullify federal power in really a throwdown about states' rights that obviously metastasized decades later into an actual civil war.
And I think it was Calhoun was going to leave the vice presidency and go to South Carolina and fight it.
General Jackson being the hero of the Battle of New Orleans, which really ended the revolution.
The British didn't really stop trying to take this country back and take the colonies back until they were crushed at the Battle of New Orleans, where I think it was three major generals.
The only time in British military history, the British Army's history, were three major generals I think were killed on the field of combat, including a general, I think it's Packingham, who was Wellington's brother-in-law.
And this was Wellington's army, part of the army that had fought the Peninsula Campaign against Napoleon, or Napoleon's allies in Spain and Portugal, and defeated them over, I don't know, four, five, six, seven, eight years.
And the rest of that army defeated Napoleon at Waterloo six months after New Orleans in June of 1815. So General Jackson, I think he said, hey, if Calhoun's going to, you know, and South Carolina thinks they're going to nullify it, I'm going to send federal troops down there and I'll hang Calhoun from the first lamppost.
Nullify that.
General Jackson was a nationalist, a populist and a nationalist.
And I believe in states' rights, but there's a certain time, particularly in certain laws, that you just can't say, hey, I'm going to pick and choose.
This is what you're having right now.
This is going to be one of the big forces of resistance.
Write this down, folks.
In the first couple of months of President Trump's third win second term, these mayors particularly, you're going to see Chicago and Denver are going to be, and I think San Francisco, you're going to have these radical leftist mayors that have destroyed their cities and their regions by the sanctuary policy that You're going to have them stand up to President Trump and say, no, this is Sanctuary City.
We're not going to deport anybody.
The NGOs, the Catholic Charities, the Lutherans, all of them are going to pile in.
You're going to have a mess.
You're going to have a real fight on your hands.
They're going to sit there and they're going to have CNN cameras.
They're going to have crying children and Trump's going to be a barbarian and Tom Homan's going to be a savage and they're going to make Stephen Miller look like a Nazi.
It's all coming.
And you see the guy in Denver right now and of course the mayor of Chicago, but I think Pritzker will step up.
What these politicians will see is that the Democratic Party right now do not have a lot of fighters.
And whoever's a fighter, like Elizabeth Warren in the Senate with the judges, or who stands up on the sanctuary policy, they'll be that first wave of, hey, we can rejuvenate the Democratic Party by stopping Trump.
And we can nullify Trump's efforts to basically secure the sovereignty of the country, our territorial integrity, our self-determination, the same things we say that we've given a quarter of a trillion dollars to Ukraine to fight on the eastern Russian-speaking border.
Well, in trying to get it in our country by deporting the 10 million, 11 million, 15 million illegal alien invaders invited here by the Biden regime, the sanctuary cities are going to be a massive problem.
Tom Holman sees it, Stephen Miller sees it, and we certainly see it here in the war room.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
steve bannon
Let's take down the CCP. This is why what's happening right now in the transition is very important.
I want to go back to the dispatch piece.
And if Mo and Grace can kindly put it out, and I want to thank Mike Warren for the interview over at Steve Hayes and Jonah Goldberg.
And look, we agree on very little with the guys at Dispatch, but it's a site that you have to really want to understand the thinking of kind of the never-Trump Republican establishment.
And they still got a lot of power.
And I say that in there.
You know, Gates was a loss.
And Mitch McConnell, through Thune, is still a powerful force.
He is.
You just gotta accept that.
And we gotta deal with it.
I think we deal with it with head-on confrontation.
We have to.
Or they're gonna pick off Hegseth or others.
They're looking for...
Christy lays it out on the Sunday morning show.
Because he thinks like an established guy.
He says, hey, you don't have a shot on all these guys, but you've got a shot on one.
Pick your shot.
Which one do you want?
I happen to think that the lobbyist will want RFK. That's their biggest fear.
And there's already been a couple of not great slots over there, particularly the Surgeon General.
Big issue on that.
I think we're going to try to get to that in the 5 o'clock hour.
President Trump obviously gets to pick who he wants to pick and will support it.
But there's some particular Surgeon General that's very questionable.
The article has now been picked up on Mediate, and we've got to drive this narrative that—and this is the reason we've come so far.
This is the reason that President Trump has won, is that we confronted the establishment and have had our own internal civil war for 10 years.
Have we won all—no.
And in politics, there's no final indeterminate—there's no final victory.
It's a process.
The history is a process.
You have to buy into that if you're going to get into these fights to save your country.
You just have to understand, there's never going to be any final one perfect moment.
It's not.
You can have times for 20 or 30 years you said it right, and that's why we're going for this realignment.
That's why Rachel Maddow, they're smart.
They're not dumb over there.
They're evil, but they're not dumb.
They're cunning, and they're not stupid.
They understand exactly, and they see, they call it the autocratic breakthrough, not the democratic breakthrough.
They understand that we're going for a realignment because they have left populism.
They have left talking about the needs of the people in this country.
The working class and middle class are the backbone of this country, not the wealthy elites, the middle class and the working class.
It's the backbone of the United States.
They've abandoned that for the credential class.
And they just paid a huge price for that.
And if we do this right and we can get beyond race and we can get beyond gender and we can get beyond ethnicity and religion and we can do that to get down to the brass tacks of money and power, there'll be a realignment in this country that will allow us to govern for 50 years or beyond, just like FDR. And this crowd back in 1932, which up until then the Republicans had governed since 1860, essentially.
Since 1860 in the Civil War.
The United States goes through these big, turbulent, it's what's called turnings.
This is why we're in a fourth turning.
This is why we can lead the country through the fourth turning and then govern for 50 years.
It's not an autocratic breakthrough.
It's a breakthrough for a constitutional republic by democratic means because, Rachel, take your number two pencil out and write it down.
We crushed you in an election.
You got that?
You embracing that?
You feeling better now?
Don't feel bad.
Don't feel bad.
Aunt Claire.
You got to take care of Aunt Claire.
She's losing it.
Claire McCaskill.
As many of the folks over there.
Michael and Dale, you know what they need to do?
I never thought about this.
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Your products are very nurturing.
No, because people don't understand this.
Most people on the left think that Mike Lindell is a wild-eyed madman, right?
Now, there's those aspects and tendencies, but Mike Lindell...
No, because your story, you were a degenerate gambler and a drug user and did a lot of bad, awful things, and then you found God, and then you found Jesus Christ.
You dedicated your life.
Your story of transformation is amazing, and now you're a patriot of patriot.
You're like John Hancock or Sam Adams.
You're a businessman who's put your country first to the deterioration of your business.
You've had the FBI try to roll you up.
They're trying to put you in bankruptcy.
You've still got lawsuits for billions of dollars all over the place.
Why?
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
Because Mike Lindell tried to stand up for his country and put his country first and not himself and not his own company.
But your products and the reason the War Room Posse has been so supportive of your employees who they love, but your products are very nurturing.
They're around sleep, around home.
They're nurturing.
What we need to do is get Mike Lindell up on MSNBC. I just hate the fact you're giving them money, but those people wouldn't be going through trauma right now if they bought the products of Mike Lindell at MyPillow.
Mike Lindell, the floor is yours, sir.
mike lindell
Oh, absolutely.
And Steve, you know, prior to 2016, I was as big on CNN and MSNBC. They used to get great sleep there.
The View, it was their biggest product ever sold on The View for a one-minute commercial.
And boy, how things have changed, right?
That could be what happened to them all.
They don't get good rest over there.
They don't get good quality sleep.
So things have changed.
But you're right, Steve.
And it's funny how they turned on me somewhere around 2016, I guess, after I first met our great real president.
And I remember putting an ad up right before the China virus on CNN, right in the middle of CNN. And they all went, Mike Lindell's back.
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steve bannon
And God bless you, Mike Lindell.
You're a great patriot, and you're a great man.
And you're incredibly humble.
And had a great, amazing transformation.
And what you've done from where you came from is nothing short of miraculous.
Mike Lindell, see you this afternoon, sir.
Love you, brother.
Love the folks out there.
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