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Nov. 23, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4079: 2025 The Most Important Year Of This Country
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phillip patrick
09:21
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steve bannon
30:37
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bradley thayer
02:04
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tej gill
01:39
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ali velshi
00:19
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jake tapper
00:08
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mike lindell
00:14
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Saturday, 23 November, year of our 2024.
So much has happened.
Transition in Mar-a-Lago in West Palm Beach.
Transition office in West Palm Beach.
Of course, Mar-a-Lago over in the Palm Beach side is kind of the epicenter where President Trump is rolling, making decisions.
I think a lot of the interviews are being actually handled over at the West Palm Beach.
Transition office also...
Up here in Washington, D.C., a lot of the folks have come back here and they're working on stuff.
More will be coming up as they start to lay the groundwork for President Trump to return To the Imperial Capitol in probably the third week of January, right?
Get here a couple days in advance.
And already...
And this is why you cannot...
Just don't sit there and say, hey, we can go on vacation and just think it's going to the 20th of January.
They're doing everything in their power right now to Trump-proof.
Trump-proof.
Trump-proof the government.
Trump-proof legislation.
Trump-proof the courts.
All of it.
And you've got warriors that are fighting this every day.
So just remember, the first order of business is make sure...
First, do no harm.
Make sure they can't do...
We limit or cauterize the harm that they're trying to do.
Like I said, I don't have a problem with people who have different philosophies of politics.
That's just human nature.
I have a problem that these people are evil and want to destroy our republic and turn it into something.
You saw what they tried to turn it into.
Look at what they tried to do during the pandemic with Fauci and those guys.
Look what they tried to do when they got power.
Just don't have Steve Bannon go yammering on, yelling into a microphone.
Just look at what they were doing in life.
Very much like the Bolsheviks.
Remember, the reason they wanted to come after the war in Posse and the reason they wanted to come after the MAGA movement, remember they had the billboards down in Georgia?
Have you seen anything?
It was like the Lives of Others, what they did the movie about East Germany and the Stasi.
This is what they try to do.
They go right back to the Marxist playbook.
This is what the show trials, the show trials of Trump were just like the Moscow show trials in the 1930s.
Totally performative, not justice.
Remember the guy that stripped him of the company?
Remember that fiasco?
Remember Mershon?
Remember the things to the juries?
Just go back.
Always make sure that's emblazoned into your mind.
Never forget that.
We can't forget it.
They say, oh, these guys are all vengeance and retribution.
No, no, no, no.
Stop, stop.
You put people in bankruptcy, you've got people in jail, you've got people in prison.
But it's not about that.
Because we never ran and left the country.
We never said we're going to give up on the country.
We're not going to surrender and give up on the country.
No, we're going to fight and take this thing back and set things right.
Remember that great scene in the outlawed Josie Wales?
Where Josie Wales sitting there with kids, house been burned, little boy's been murdered, wife has been raped and murdered.
And the kind of renegades that helped come and put the, from the, was it the, it was all guerrilla warfare there, right?
The guys that come up and save him, they say, hey, we're going to go down and set things right.
That's President Trump.
He's going to come and set things right.
He needs a team around him.
He's putting together a pretty impressive team.
Pretty impressive team.
And I think you're going to see not just the deconstruction of the administrative state.
And it's not, oh, they're trying to gum up the government.
They're trying to destroy the government.
No.
Conservatives for years and years, decades and decades and decades.
We've heard this talk and I heard it, man, when I first started getting involved in politics.
I'm a limited government Republican.
I'm for a limited government.
Limited government.
And what happened?
Under Republican administrations, the government metastasized.
More under Democrats.
Think about it.
I think President Trump's last budget was $4.5 trillion, the last one he put up.
We're at $6.6 trillion.
That $3.5 trillion, what did we do differently in November of 2024 that we didn't do in 2019?
I realize some of the entitlements are up.
I got that.
Let's set that aside, but it's a trillion and a half dollars different.
What are we doing differently?
Oh, we're spending more on the American empire.
We're giving foreign countries more.
Maybe not even direct aid, but militarily, they're all protectorates.
Europe's a protectorate.
The Gulf's a protectorate.
Israel's a protectorate.
The South China Sea around that, they're all protectorates.
Up there in Japan and create their protectorates.
Got to be allies.
Can't be a protectorate.
We're not an empire.
Never intended to be an empire.
And President Trump's going to set that, but understanding this is why in taking and deconstructing the administrative state and destroying the deep state, you have to seize control of the institutions.
In fact, if we can play that, if we get that, because I've got to get Philip Patrick over here.
Everything where they're saying, they're in a tough position.
Look, here's where we jammed them up, and they admit it.
They're defenders of the system, and the system's not working.
Particularly the system's not working for masses of American citizen voters, particularly people that are black and Hispanic, the white working class, the lower middle class.
It's not working.
The system's not working.
So we've jammed them up.
They're in a position to defend the institutions that are not working.
They are in a position to defend a system that's not working.
They are defending the corruption and incompetence and malfeasance.
That is the way you have a 1932 realignment and govern for 50 years.
If you deliver, and this is President Trump sending a very strong signal.
I'm putting practical people in here.
This is not about retribution.
All the same here.
It's all retribution, retribution, retribution.
The retribution is success.
And putting a stamp on this as the age of Trump.
You know what really burns their souls over there at MSNBC and the New York Times?
They're all going to be forgotten about in history.
Morning Mika, Morning Joe.
They'll all be forgotten.
Except for scholars of the era, like the age...
It's called the Age of Jackson before the Civil War.
The Age of Jackson.
Schlesinger.
Arthur Schlesinger.
In his books defined it.
And if you study that, as I have, you'll see the characters in there.
It's fascinating.
Fascinating time of American history.
But if you're not a student of it, It's Jackson.
Everybody else has forgotten.
Because people only have so much they can, you know, kind of hold in their heads.
What upsets Joe Scarborough and what upsets all these people on MSM? Rachel Maddow, the burning hatred they have.
You know why they hate him?
Because he's going to be remembered.
And they don't think he's worried that he didn't come out of the credential class, although he's got a degree from Wharton, and it's only the next to Harvard.
President Trump.
The second best school of finance and business in the country.
But when you're number two, not too shabby.
Head of Stanford.
Head of University of Chicago.
Head of MIT. Pretty good company.
He's credentialed enough.
But he's not part of that.
He connects with the American people.
And this is why they hate him because this will be known as the age of Trump.
Now we have to close the deal.
He closed the deal because the best closer ever on the 2024 election against long odds.
Longer odds in 16. Here's why in 16 we snuck up on them.
They didn't take us seriously.
They mock and ridicule us every day.
We kind of went around, and it was all about, they were focused on a landslide.
They were focused on a mandate, not on winning.
We were focused on winning and barely scraping by how we're going to do it.
How are we going to get to 270?
What do we have to do?
No money.
We had a man, a message, and a plane.
That's what we had.
And self-organizing, grassroots, because we didn't even have a lot of money.
Every penny we had, we put into the get out the vote, but we didn't have a lot of pennies.
2024 is different.
For four years, they planned and plotted to stop him and destroy him, and through destroying him, destroy his movement, the MAGA movement.
Yep.
Very different.
And not only beat him, he closed the deal and won in a landslide and got a mandate.
They're saying, no, he didn't know mandate.
Sell that to America.
You're trying to sell Trump didn't get a mandate.
Corporate media is about, you have as much success as selling the politics of joy.
Can you imagine the arrogance?
And this is why I said the only thing I put out of Danbury Prison was on the 26th where Raheem helped me with that statement that victory is at hand.
And I said, hey, she couldn't sell the politics of joy.
Couldn't sell it.
So now she's pivoted to we're all garbage and Nazis and fascists.
Not going to sell that because people are looking and saying, hey, I'm not a fascist.
I don't even know that much about Trump, but I know one thing.
He's a leader and better in this crowd.
What they've done, you know, with all the cultural stuff they're doing, the DEI and the transgender and all that, man, that madness.
My kids, I don't want that force down the throats of my kids.
And oh, by the way, prices have exploded.
I can't afford anything.
You've got to take a second job.
And we're fighting wars all over the world.
And not exactly winning because, quote-unquote, the Ukrainians got a million dead.
And the parts of the country look like Dresden in 1945. I'm not calling that winning.
Right?
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That's what they rejected.
He got a mandate.
And what irks them, and the credential class, and all those PhDs, and all those people, Weissman, Weissman, and all, we know what they hate?
They hate that this is the age of Trump.
And the reason it's the age of Trump is he had the moral courage to come back.
One of the most important things in the history of this country.
This is why, down through the ages, why do you think the story of General Cincinnatus?
Cincinnati is coming back from the plow in Rome.
It had such a powerful thing that a guy would retire when the Republic was in jeopardy and Rome was in jeopardy and the citizens were in jeopardy.
He would come back from retirement to defeat the enemy again and then walk away again.
That's Trump.
Trump went to Mar-a-Lago.
He could have stayed in Mar-a-Lago.
None of the bad stuff would have happened.
But he understands American history deeper than them and that's what irks them.
They say he's uneducated, he's crude, he's barbaric.
Well, hey, give me some of that crude, barbaric, and uneducated.
I'll go long that, and I'll short you.
No politician in the history of this country, except for General Washington at the founding and President Lincoln at the second founding, have had the moral courage of Donald Trump.
Those two.
And Lincoln ended with an assassin's bullet, point blank, back of the head.
And Trump, they tried to get in the back of the head too, and only through divine providence, only through divine providence, only through divine providence, he turned that head in that second.
Or you were seen on national TV, just like President Kennedy having his head blown off.
You were seen it.
And then the physical courage he displayed, who does that?
Who does that?
Who in the moment, when the Secret Service puts you down, they want you to crawl off the stage because they've got ten guys on you, you stand up, you put that fist up, fight, fight, fight, with the blood coming down your head and the American flag in the background, you don't think that's providential?
You merge that physical courage with moral courage, it's unstoppable.
You look at these young men.
They may not understand the geopolitics of this, and they may not understand the marginal tax rates and all that.
They don't need to.
They go, hey, that guy's a leader.
He wants to stop wars, and he wants to put more money in my pocket and give me a better job, have access to a better job.
I'm all in.
This is what Trump understands.
Just keep it simple, but deliver.
And now we're in the delivery phase.
And they're just not going to sit there and go, oh, how can we help?
How can we help?
How can we help?
How can we help the American citizens?
How can we help this country?
How can we put America first?
Yes, President Trump's right.
Upon further review, he's right.
He's correct.
How can we help?
Uh-uh.
Nope.
It's not that.
It's not going to be that.
You know that.
That's why you're so important.
That's why you're such an important part of the story.
And don't take it from me, but check American history.
No group of average citizens have ever had the impact you've had.
Ever had the impact you've had.
Ever.
Ever, ever, ever, ever.
You are the vanguard of this movement.
You are President Trump's the hardest core of the hardcore supporters.
You're what we call in revolutionary terms a cadre.
That's what the war on posse is.
It's a cadre.
It thinks through, it weighs and measures, makes sure it understands it, and then it goes to action.
It uses its agency like he used his agency to bend the arc of history.
To bend it.
To bend it at his will.
And that is quite rare.
This is what we call, Hegel calls, world historical figures.
That's what Trump is.
That's what they hate him.
That's what Scarborough hates him.
This is what people hate him.
Mika, she knows.
Her dad was one of the smartest guys in the country.
They hate him because they understand he's a world historical figure.
That his back is covered and protected by a populist movement of dedicated American patriots.
Short break.
ali velshi ▲ ● ▼
He's been chosen to return.
This was his old job under the first Trump administration as the director of the Office of Management and Budget.
It's an important position.
It's also a big red flag about what this administration's plans are.
Give me a sense of this guy and how he could help achieve upending the federal government.
unidentified
Well, I think upending is a good word, right?
The portion of Project 2025 that VOTE's chapter is in talks about taking back, seizing the reins of the executive branch.
This is clearly an effort to expand this notion that we should have a powerful president who overrides the federal agencies, which of course implies overriding the will of Congress, which sets much of the agenda for the federal agencies.
So anyone who's not been in government You might not be familiar with how powerful of an agency OMB is, but this is setting up Russell Vogt in essence to be Trump's right-hand man.
His job will be to implement policy.
It will be to use the purse strings to control people who don't want to fall in line.
So in that sense, he has the ability to be an enforcer.
And this is someone who's deep in the policy aspects of Project 2025, which was written by sort of this loosely arranged colloquium of a hundred different conservative groups all coming together to set forth a vision for a new America guided by Christian principles, as you mentioned, vote as a Christian nationalist.
And there is a lot of this sort of simmering political appetite To change the direction of the country that he will have broad latitude to implement because of the powerful position he will hold if he's confirmed.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That is a quite brilliant and very succinct summary.
Good on you, MSNBC, Ali Valci and your team.
Lindell, we're really jammed.
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When you tell me he's ready, normally he's ready.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
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unidentified
Tej Frog.
tej gill ▲ ● ▼
T-E-J-F-R-O-G. Tej Frog.
I'm on all the different social media platforms.
So Tej Frog.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What?
What a frog man.
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Okay, one thing I want you to read over the weekend, more homework assignments.
I'll be putting more up on Getter, and I think Grace will be putting more up.
We've got a lot of homework assignments, a lot of work to do this weekend, folks.
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Thayer, I'm running out of time.
Two minutes.
Something big happened down in Peru.
They met on the side, and Xi laid out the tell.
He's laid out the four red lines that America has to agree to so we can be co-partners in world growth.
The two that jump off the page for me is Taiwan and democracy.
Nothing to democracy.
You've got a great article up.
Where do people get it?
What does it say?
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼
Well, thanks, Steve.
Great to join you.
The article's up at warroom.org.
Grace put it up just now so folks can go and look at it there.
The argument is that Xi Jinping basically has had this theme during the Biden presidency of establishing red lines, telling Biden what he has to do.
And those are, as you identified earlier, Steve, Taiwan.
That's the first red line U.S. can't cross, according to Xi Jinping.
Secondly, democracy and human rights.
That is, the U.S. can't interfere in democracy and human rights in China.
U.S. can't interfere in the system, what they call the Chinese system.
That is, the U.S. can't work to overthrow the Chinese Communist Party.
And then fourth, lastly, the U.S. can't interfere with China's rights, that is, rights for advancement and development.
So what Xi Jinping is doing is telling Biden what he has to do, telling him his China policy, and setting the stage, Xi Jinping hopes, To give a warning to the Trump administration about why it has to follow the same policies, of course.
All four of those red lines are outrageous, of course.
And Xi says if the US doesn't follow them, we'll be in a Cold War.
Well, guess what?
We already are in a Cold War.
As you said earlier, of course, today, we've been in a Cold War since they came to power in 1949. And so they declared the Cold War.
They've been fighting it.
And it's time, as the first Trump administration did, is to begin to confront them in each of those areas.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, so we have the war here against the administration of the deep state, but to set the frame geopolitically, it's the Chinese Communist Party, and they've had a huge tell.
They're afraid of their people because of this democracy.
They're afraid of their people, La Bajing, and they're afraid of the freedom of the Taiwanese people.
This is where we're going to run the tables on these guys.
Take down the CCP. Dr. Thayer, social media, but particularly where they go to get this article over the weekend.
We'll have you back on Monday and Tuesday, sir.
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼
Because they're illegitimate, they know they're illegitimate.
And that's why the tell, as you said, is exactly that, right?
And so there's a new sheriff in town, Steve, as you've had that Western theme, of course, with the searchers and outlaw of Josie Wales.
There's a new sheriff in town, and he's going to do things differently.
I'm at Brad Theron X and Bradley Theron Getter and Truth, and the article's available at War Room.
Thanks very much, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, doctor.
There's a new sheriff in town.
Donald John Trump is John Wayne.
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Give us a deal.
We're going to come in.
We've got the Birch Gold guys.
We're going to talk about capital markets in a moment.
We want to know what you're doing for the Posse today, brother.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You have a great weekend.
We'll see you back here Monday.
Go with God, sir.
They tried to bankrupt him, and the FBI came and grabbed his son.
It's an intimidation.
Tina Peters is in prison.
She's in jail right now.
They did horrible things to people.
But there's no retribution because of that.
That's kind of meaningless.
It shows you what their actions are and how dangerous they are, but I haven't met anybody, including me.
I have no interest whatsoever in any retribution against any of the individuals that put me in prison.
I don't.
I have huge, huge, huge issues with the system that allowed that to happen.
And particularly, they were trying to put President Trump, a man that gave everything for his country, 20 years in prison.
We have to make sure this can never happen again, ever.
Because it's only going to stop when you make it stop.
If you look at the people President Trump signing up, there's some hammers in there.
There are people here not going to back down.
Just not going to back down.
We have to make sure that the cadre, I know you'll never back down, but it's fixed bayonets.
In the trenches, we're going to go over the top in the trenches.
We are going to take down the administrative state, and we're going to take down the deep state, and we're going to hold people accountable that did that, that set it up illegally and illegitimately against the constitution of this, our beloved republic.
Okay, we're going to take a short break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to talk capital markets and the way forward.
Philip Patrick joins us from Birch Gold.
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Short commercial break.
We'll return to War Room in just a moment.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, welcome back.
One of my favorite people joins me, Philip Patrick.
Philip, and I want to go to Semaphore.
This is from yesterday, but it has some amazing pieces, two of them, and I want to connect the dots because they're kind of separated.
One was announcement of really pretty dramatic drop in growth in Germany.
And Germany is the engine of Europe.
And Europe is, you know, one of our largest trading partners and obviously an ally.
We would like them to step up and be more of an ally and less of a protectorate because that's what the deep state and the Atlanticists want.
Also, Ms. Gota over at Semaphore wrote a great piece that was something we've been talking about.
The first couple of weeks of the Trump second term is going to hit some pretty big headwinds.
And that really comes on two things, Philip Patrick, is number one, the debt ceiling.
And number two is you've got to pass a budget.
Looks like they're going to they're going to do a CR.
They kick it through past from December 20 before Christmas past January 20.
So President Trump actually gets to take fiscal year 2025 and actually make his own budget.
But obviously, big cuts got to come out of that.
Or somehow you've got to figure out how to not have a two trillion dollar deficit.
Your thoughts on the macro.
And then I want to talk about how that flows through to financial instruments like hedges, like precious metals, sir.
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, no Look, Trump doesn't have a lot of time at this point to put together a detailed budget.
So as you say, I think they're likely going to fund with a continuing resolution, essentially business as usual, keep the government running while Trump and his advisers have time to put together a detailed budget.
That's quite common for incoming administrations, right, given the time crunch.
The hope is longer term, once a detailed budget comes out, they start funding through appropriations bills to give Congress the time and then the information to make right decisions.
But it's going to be very, very tough to cut the spending, as you and I have discussed.
And I'm really interested to see what's going to come out of Doge and how many cutbacks they can make.
The reality is we're going to need to spend under the administration, right?
But spending in on itself is not bad, right?
Spending when you're spending on bee-friendly highways or jello wrestling in the Antarctic, that stuff doesn't help.
But you can spend in a productive way that leads to economic growth and output.
And that's what we will get with the Trump administration.
But it's going to take time for that to materialize.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What's your assessment?
You're seeing when growth starts to drop in Germany, Europe's soon to follow.
Because do you agree with me that the Franco-German project is the EU? And the concept, folks, was that you had to have this thing after World War II because if you wanted to, you know, they'd fought, you know, what, in 1848, the Franco-German War, then you'd had World War I, then you had World War II, and East Germany was part of, you know, Russia after that.
Controlled by the Bolsheviks, the Soviet Union.
But if you wanted to basically take the cockpit of Europe and calm it down and make sure you didn't have any of these nationalist fights, what they said were nationalist fights, you basically had to have this general broad, both NATO and EU. But it was always set economically that Germany would still, and particularly after unification in the 90s, Germany would be the engine that drove The European economy.
When Germany, for a whole host of bad reasons, principally, I think, driven by this, you know, as Dave Walsh has told us time and again, this bizarre energy policy they've got for an industrial country, they're starting to slow on growth pretty dramatically.
How does that fit into your calculations when you look at the macro picture of the global economy?
And how does that affect precious metals?
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
Look, this is a very good climate for precious metals, and we're seeing issues around the globe.
Germany is one example.
The old macro business model of cheap energy and easily accessible large export markets is no longer working for them.
Basically, Germany's tried to remain an export powerhouse despite much higher social spending and Borderline socialism, of course, and they can no longer compete, or they're struggling to do so on the global scale.
Germany has always been the engine of Europe.
Energy policies, all renewable, is just not working for them, and their economy is struggling, and the people now are speaking out.
But that's part of the problem here.
This is global in nature.
This is a global debt problem.
It is not just Specific to us here in the United States.
So for investors, it makes it much more complex.
How do you bypass, right?
It used to be that if we were worried about a recession domestically, we could look at emerging markets or European markets.
The ability to do that, I think, is waning in this climate, given the global nature of the problem.
But things are shifting on a global scale.
There is a split now between East and West.
And it's starting to escalate.
We're seeing China now buddy up to Brazil and others and start to make more trade partnerships.
And all of this is working against the dollar on the international stage.
So Trump has a very, very difficult job on his hands.
We also now have, of course, recession alarm bells ringing.
So I wouldn't be surprised if he got handed an official recession in his first few weeks in office.
So it's going to be an uphill battle, to say the least.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Do you think...
Is it your...
Thought that Biden and these guys are doing as much as they can to this economy to make sure that President Trump takes over a bigger mess than we already saw, sir?
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
Oh, without doubt.
Yeah, I think we're going to start to see more and more and more of that.
I saw an interview with yourself and Scott Besson when he was talking about how Yellen had spiked the fiscal cannons and basically moved a lot of debt.
To the short term, to give them a ton to refinance on day one of the administration.
That's just one example, but I think there's a lot more.
Look at what's happening politically, allowing the Ukrainians now to send missiles into Russian territory.
That's something Trump's going to have to deal with walking in, right?
So economically, politically, they're trying to make the job as tough as possible, which is an absurdity, right?
If you really care about the country, that's fine.
You lost.
You still want Trump to have the best shot possible.
So I think it tells us who we've been dealing with.
And politics has become tribal to a fault at this point.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Did you get a sense in this, I guess it was APEC they had, I think it was in Peru or Chile, where, and she then spent time, he just went to Brazil.
We've covered that last night with this entire situation in Bolsonaro.
Are the Bricks picking up?
You know, because MSNBC's been all over us off the Vanity Fair piece, which was very favorable.
Very favorable to Birch Gold.
Talked about the end of the dollar empire.
They were very impressed of how we put that out to a working class and middle class audience.
It's one of the things I taught at...
At Danbury to make sure people understood at the federal prison there, the classes I taught to make sure people understood the macroeconomics like we try to teach here, or at least the rudimentary elements of it so people can kind of start to look at politics as some part of having money is a big part of this.
Have the BRICS, have they lost a little momentum?
Are they trying to regroup?
They're going forward.
I know the depreciation, the drop in purchasing power of the dollar continues kind of unabated.
So where do you think they stand now?
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
I don't think they're really slow in course.
There's more nations clambering to sign up to the BRICS agreement.
The unit, their currency is starting to gather steam.
We haven't seen quite the makeup of it.
It looks like it's going to be 40% gold.
We're starting to see trade agreements expand.
We talk about China and Brazil, but that's just one of a number.
Russia have done the same, signed very similar agreements with Brazil, India, and South Africa.
Not only do these bilateral trade agreements completely bypass the US dollar as an intermediate currency, They're efforts to create parallel supply chains, resistance to US and NATO sanctions.
So they're not only economic moves, but they're strategic moves as well.
And they're gathering steam.
And the more these happen, the more demand wanes for the dollar longer term, the weaker our power globally becomes.
And then, as we've discussed, the weaker the longer term argument will start to become For the dollar is the global reserve currency.
So it's not slowing down.
It's gathering steam.
And I think this is going to be a tough one for President Trump to deal with, certainly on the political side.
He's restricted by one more term, right?
Biden, China, Russia, they are looking beyond the next election cycle in the US.
So they've gone through a lot of pain to start coming off a dollar-based system.
I don't see them jumping back in because Trump's in for another four years.
So this is a problem I think will be on the horizon moving forward.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What do you think?
How do they view...
First of all, how do you think they view economically the return of Trump and particularly MAGA with we have a very strong sense of economics, economic nationalism, tariffs, protectionism, building American jobs in American industry here, want to make sure the American citizens have access to high value added manufacturing jobs.
How is that perceived by particularly Western Europe and in the CCP? Listen, I don't think China would want a Trump presidency.
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
He's trying to rebuild our manufacturing base.
He's trying to address the trade imbalance.
He's trying to do things that benefit us and not China.
I'm pretty sure Xi had every finger crossed for a Kamala win, but it hasn't gone their way.
Like I've said before, Trump's policies are long term.
They're designed to revitalize our manufacturing base and to build or rebuild the economy from the ground up.
It's a good move for the nation longer term, right?
This is how we became The United States.
It's how we became the global leader.
But it's going to take time.
I've said before, it took 200 years to build the faith and credit needed to make the dollar the global reserve currency.
And in four years, Biden has almost decimated that entirely.
So Trump has to rebuild.
It's going to take time.
But there isn't a better man for the job.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Walk me through.
We've got a couple of minutes in this segment I want to hold you through.
First off, the end of the dollar empire.
I take it you strongly recommend they get that first to chew on it.
I know the Vanity Fair piece was amazingly complimentary of it.
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
Oh, yeah.
It's because it gives people a good historical understanding of the economy and how we got to the position we are today.
I know we're going to continue with those reports and look into where we are.
Like I said, having an understanding of economics in a broad sense, it allows people to make smart decisions.
I say start with those reports.
Very easy to access.
It's birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
They are completely free, so people should read them, get educated, and understand why we're in the position we are today.
From there, they can get access to a free information kit as well on how and why to invest in precious metals.
Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
Get reading.
It's important.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Philip Patrick, how do people, they get the end of the dollar empire, they're interested, they want to know more about precious metals and particularly how it's in hedge.
How you do it?
And then the instrumentality.
I got IRAs.
I got a 401k.
Maybe I want to buy bullion.
Walk us through how people interact with the folks at Birch Gold, sir.
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
Of course, so really simple.
Like you said, it starts with the information.
So birchgold.com forward slash ban, and that's going to get them access to a free information kit.
Customers will read through, start to generate questions.
From there, if they think, okay, this is something I want to learn more about, they're going to have access to precious metals specialists like myself that are there to guide them through how it works, whether you have an IRA or a 401k, Sitting there exposed to the markets, people can move any portion of those accounts.
So it's a common misconception.
People think it's all or nothing.
You can move any portion of any eligible retirement account into physical precious metals.
There's also people out there, cash in the bank, retirement savings, losing today to inflation.
They can purchase physical precious metals directly from us.
We can ship them to them, they can hold on to them, or we can have it vaulted within a Brinks facility.
In terms of getting it done, we manage all of that.
So we do all of the heavy lifting.
The customer needs to have a plan in mind and a strategy we can execute from there.
But we're there to guide them through, give them all the information they need so that they can make smart decisions.
For us, that's how we do things.
We think the more informed people are, the better a decision they can make, which is why, you know, End of the dollar empire, investment kits, all of that stuff is very important to us.
The more informed people are, the better a decision they can make.
So birchgold.com forward slash Bannon, that'll get them the information.
And like I said, there's a lot of people like myself that can hold hands, answer questions, and guide you through step by step by step.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Also, if they're on their phone, they can just text Bannon at 989898, and that will also cut you through to get the free info kits, all that?
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
That will.
Bannon to 989898. For those who prefer text, like me, that'll get them the information kit as well.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Philip Patrick, thank you.
Carving out time on a Saturday to join us.
Really appreciate your brother and the team over there, Birch Gold.
Thank you.
phillip patrick ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, Steve.
Enjoy your weekend.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Let's be honest.
We had some victories this week.
We had some speed bumps.
You know, from the judges to Matt Gaetz.
I guess Matt Gaetz is the big story.
But it may make some of the other nominees easier.
I think what...
Brother Clark and others are working on this recess concept.
We'll also make, because he's going to tell people, hey, we've got another alternative if you don't approve these, or if you don't consent to President Trump's nominees.
We have a real fight here.
Of course, the city is kind of winding down over Thanksgiving.
Normally, you would think they would work through the entire time, I believe, but you can never trust these guys that may give us a better Understanding that they are going to take a CR and kick it into next year to let President Trump wrestle with the budget.
And as I see this thing playing out, you've got the appropriations process, really the budget for fiscal year 2025, which we're already in.
Already in.
You've got the Doge process, which is Elon and Vivek and that team they're putting together.
There's really advisors to OMB, and you've got the OMB team that's going to be, I think, second to none.
So you've got OMB, you're going to have Doge, and then you've got the appropriators and the staff up on Capitol Hill.
I think all three of those will work.
And as...
As Semifort rightly puts out, it's just structurally, if you look at what's going on, you've got the debt ceiling we're going to hit.
You then have to wrestle with this budget simultaneously because I think best case is going to have a trillion dollar deficit.
I just think we're so far down the road in some of the stuff that, and quite frankly, cuts to Medicaid and cuts to defense.
You know, a lot of people are talking about it.
A lot of people are throwing out kind of these wild ideas, a lot of which I think can be thought through and have some impact.
But you've got to be realistic about it.
You could be looking at another trillion dollar deficit or north.
How are you going to finance that?
President Trump's going to bring all that together in an economic finance plan.
At the same time, you're beginning the beginning stages of the deportation of the 10 million illegal alien invaders.
Here at the War Room, we would love to celebrate, and we told people, hey, we're so joyous for the victory because you guys helped deliver that.
You were a major, major, major part of that.
And in delivering that victory, we would love to be able to just go to, you know, the Caribbean and hang out for a month or like what the defeated presidential candidate, the politics of joy, you know, go to California or Hawaii and just chill.
But that's just not the nature of this beast because it is a constant struggle.
Look how much has happened so far in this transition.
As I say, you have to seize these institutions.
The left is making, they're telling you every now on MSNBC, the smart people over there, that, hey, we're kind of jammed in the corner because they made us the institutionalists in defending the system, and the system's got big problems, and it's got some destructive parts to it, so these kind of, you know, the populist nationalists have us jammed up.
Well, they're still fighting very hard to keep those institutions, particularly not just the elements of the administrative state, it's the elements of the deep state.
And that's why this is a constant fight, and we're having victories, victory after victory.
If you look at the team that President Trump is fielding overall, the direction of this team is pretty impressive.
Now, I'm the first to say, look, you lose a Matt Gaetz, you take him off the chessboard, and obviously he's going to have a big role going forward.
Right?
A big role going forward.
But you take him at an AG, which is going to be the driver of the action, the tip of the spear that kind of organized everything in the different departments.
That's a hit.
And you lose momentum and you also lose fire and you lose urgency.
That's what we're trying to do here on the show, to make sure it's urgent.
We're focused on it.
We're focused on what's important.
We focus on signal, not noise.
We're not going to chase shiny toys or have kind of fun stories that are the stories that are really ephemeral.
And if you look back over the Fox News stuff over 20 years, how much of that stuff was important, where they missed the real stuff, the real news, the undercurrents of money and power in an imperial capital.
That's what we pride ourselves on.
Not wasting your time and you appreciate it because you take it and it informs your agency and your agency is very powerful.
There has never been in this country a populist movement in this country that has empowered you and has impact you.
I mean real impact.
I think more demonstrably than even General Jackson's in the 1830s, William Jennings Bryan in the late 19th century, and whatever's come up since then.
Right now, Huey Long and other folks, this is MAGA, is ascendant.
Now we have to prove that not only can we govern, we can govern smartly and we can start to take apart the Leviathan to make sure people have the blessings of liberty.
Okay, have a great weekend.
I'll be up online, grace the entire team.
We'll see you back here live in the War Room at 10 a.m.
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