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Episode 4074: Blood In The Water; We Are Linked From Patriots
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Let's start with that stunning announcement less than an hour ago that Matt Gaetz is withdrawing his name from consideration to serve as Donald Trump's Attorney General.
In a tweet announcing the decision, Gaetz said his confirmation was becoming a distraction to the incoming administration, writing, quote, There is no time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington scuffle.
Trump's DOJ must be in place and ready on day one.
nicolle wallace ▲ ● ▼
Fast.
It could have been one of the first political flashpoints of the new Trump era is over.
And it ended not with a bang, but a bit of a whimper.
Matt Gaetz today withdrawing his nomination for attorney general in a post saying this, quote, there is no time to waste on the needlessly protracted Washington scuffle.
His withdrawal comes after a day spent on Capitol Hill talking to Republican senators alongside J.D. Vance and amid a steady drip, drip, drip of seedy revelations out of the investigations into Matt Gaetz that would ultimately turn into a flood.
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It's clear to me, at least, that Matt Gaetz is acting in self-interest.
I think the particulars of this ethics investigation would have come out.
And he would have had to deal with them.
And the administration, the incoming administration would have had to deal with them.
So I think it's a self-interested move.
And I don't want us to get too far over our skis with regards to Republican senators here.
I think Matt Gase is an easy case for them to exercise, advise, and consent in this regard.
But I still think Donald Trump will be consistent in his effort to, in some ways, reel the DOJ in.
He's worried about its independence.
Donald Trump is, in so many ways, with these appointments, trying to consolidate his view of executive power.
And so, just as Ken noted, we need to be concerned about who he's going to nominate in place of Gates.
So I think...
Two things.
One, Gates is acting in self-interest.
Two, the Senate, let's not get over our skis in terms of them being a check and balance on Donald Trump.
And three, let's just realize we're in the chaos again.
And here it is.
It's just beginning.
So change the face, but not the plan.
Exactly.
So what do you see coming, Eddie?
What are you going to be watching for?
So my whole idea, I think there are two things that are running parallel that are about to converge.
One is that Donald Trump has an expansive sense of executive power.
We've been worried and concerned about the imperial presidency up until this point.
We're going to see an imperial presidency on steroids.
And so there's a reason why he wants to have a certain kind of appointment in DOJ. There's a reason for Gilbert Gabbard and DNI. There's a reason for the appointment at DOD. I think we need to understand that for what it is.
And then I also think there's also this effort to gum up government.
Not so much to appoint people who are competent, who demonstrate skill and experience, but folks who are committed to really deconstructing the administrative state.
And so part of what we need to keep track of is how he's going to try to consolidate imperial executive power, and two, how he's going to try to gum up government by way of appointing people who really have no interest in governance.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's another time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's Thursday, correct?
21 November, Year of the Lord, 2024. Welcome to the late afternoon, early evening show of the world.
In fact, this is the type of day that the afternoon, evening show is made for.
When something explosive happens through the day that informs everything we're working on.
Matt Gaetz has...
Has withdrawn his nomination.
And look, let's be brutally frank.
You can't take this any other way than a Mitch McConnell win.
I mean, they're laughing up there in the Senate.
They just are.
They also smell, they taste blood in the water.
Everybody had to hang together on this and kind of force it across the goal line.
If you're going to do something like this, it's high risk, but it's super high reward.
Matt Gaetz was the warrior's warrior.
Always going to be a risky choice, but just over a week into it, punches out, I'm sure for good reasons.
I think one thing, and I want to get back to Professor Eddie Glaude, I think from Princeton, who I think very succinctly Walk through what's going on here.
But before I do, I want to make sure the audience is totally informed.
Do we have, off of my getter feed, or if Grace has put it up on Twitter yet, if you can pull the story of yesterday and just put it up on the screen, or from this morning.
This is when they went around yesterday, and this was Senator J.D. Vance, the vice president-elect of the United States of America, took Matt Gaetz around.
They had to make deals in the room, and yesterday was not particularly successful.
The rationale of Gaetz is that, hey, at the end of the day yesterday, I had four hard no's.
I had Murkowski, I had Collins, I had McConnell, and added the guy, Curtis.
This is the worst-than-Romney clone out of Utah.
Folks in Utah, understand you got a problem out there.
You got a problem out there.
So, they had four dug-in no's.
But my point is, hey, in the first couple days you're taking incoming because there's no comms plan.
There's no surrogates out there.
You're just getting brutalized every day.
That's not the worst thing in the world.
Gates said there's another four that I guess after yesterday told him essentially we're quasi-hard no's.
That's eight.
You got the president.
We haven't put forth an effort here.
There really hasn't been any communications planned.
There's been no surrogates out there.
I'm not even sure he had a Sherpa assigned, some senator like a Norm Coleman or someone to provide him air cover.
Not even sure that was installed.
This is the very early stages.
That's a pretty quick withdrawal.
But I want to bring your attention to, at least according to the reporting of Politico and other people, In the room, what Gates was forced to trade off, and I think that is MSNBC, Fauci, and Cheney, among others.
There would be no investigation in the vast criminal conspiracy of MSNBC. This is your senators putting pressure on Gates in the room.
No investigations into Fauci.
No investigations in the Cheney.
Think about this for a second.
All the murder and mayhem caused by Fauci, all the deaths, all the carnage, everything that happened during the COVID years, they...
I have not verified this.
I'm going off of this.
This is Mediate Summary.
I think it's Politico's reporting, but other people's reporting.
That these meetings...
They even started trading chits that if they were prepared to not sponsor Gates but, according to them, hold their nose and vote for him and not come out as a hard no right now.
What you had to give up.
And I just want to repeat, no investigation into Dr. Fauci.
No investigation into Weissman and this crowd.
From everywhere, going all the way back to the original Russia hoax.
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With a shift.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And Rachel Madd on that crowd.
And no investigation of Cheney and her relation to the J6 committee.
What's she doing to the J6 committee?
That's for starters.
That's his first day up there.
This is the easy day.
We're not into the hard days.
The hard days would be in late December.
When you're grinding through, there were some truly hard no's.
And hey, Matt, you've had a month and a half, and Trump's had a month and a half to grind this through, and we're still a hard no, or we're on the border.
You've got to give me something.
You've got to give me a U.S. attorney.
I need a U.S. attorney.
Because it's all horse trading.
You've got to give me a U.S. attorney out in my home state.
Or I need a couple of sub-cabinet positions over at USDA. I need this.
This is the horse trading that goes on.
They're horse trading out on the first day.
No investigation of Dr. Fauci.
No investigation of MSNBC. No investigation of Cheney.
This is the Senate.
The Senate is the Human Resources Department of the United States government.
This is the check and balance of the brilliance of our founders.
And it was quite brilliant.
But their primary function is Human Resources Department or treaties.
And as you know, the United States were not into treaties.
You know, this is why climate...
And people nowadays have gone out of their way to make sure they're not treated because they can't get two-thirds of the Senate.
Essentially, it's tough to get over 50 and a couple of votes.
Gates is gone.
Gates is gone.
And I think we have to be brutally frank.
I'm not here to...
Look...
The war room posse and the cadres and all that, you guys are going to get to the ramparts and we're going to win just like we won last time.
But hey, you're going to hit speed bumps.
And here was a victory of this is Mitch McConnell and Trump took a bullet to the head, won a landslide.
They don't hold the House and they certainly don't take the Senate.
It's all Trump.
And already they're reasserting themselves.
They're reasserting non-MAGA. They're reasserting not to Trump.
And the president, please, Mr. President, understand.
The people around you that tell you this is okay, this is not okay.
You're not going to get anything done.
Nothing.
Zero.
Unless we force, just like in football, unless we force your will upon it and we can, it's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
It's just not going to happen.
Because the forces of resistance, and they're vast on the radical Democratic side.
Ray and Mayorkas refuse to testify in front of the Democratic Senate because they don't want to come back and have to do it in front of the House.
Refuse to testify.
There's people pouring across the border.
They're playing games with the balance sheet of the Fed and the balance sheet of the United States.
You know about how they're financing the debt.
You've got this war metastasizing.
Poso's coming on at 6 o'clock.
This war in Ukraine couldn't be more serious.
Go to Drudge.
And I realize Drudge is not the Drudge of all, but look at the Mac Daddy on Drudge.
Look at the Mac Daddy on Drudge.
This thing's as serious as it could possibly get.
They're Trump-proofing this government.
Are the Republicans doing as good a job as possible in stopping the judge?
No.
Braun and Cruz aren't even around.
I don't know what Cruz is doing.
He's down there hanging out with Elon.
We don't need you hanging out with Elon, Senator.
You're the best of the best when it comes to the Constitution.
You're the best of the best on judiciary.
You've got to be the best of the best in standing in the breach and stopping these judges.
This is full game on now, and I hope people, I've been sitting here, I feel like kind of the voice in the wilderness.
Everybody's wandering around, they want to go to parties, and they're all doing this.
Look, we had the parties last night, but we went right to work after that, gave a speech, and came back here at 10 o'clock at night, 9 o'clock at night, we're grinding at 3 in the morning.
I'm not saying nothing special, this is other people doing it too.
But this is not a time for celebration.
This is a time for grinding work, or in this interregnum, before Trump even gets to January 20th, they're going to have it locked down.
And we're going to be nowhere.
This is all about staying on offense.
And we hit right perfectly.
The first couple days, perfect.
You sucked him in with the Rubio in the Walls announcement.
Maybe even a little Radcliffe.
And they're sitting there on the sign shows.
He's going to be so normal.
It's going to be so great.
It's going to be so...
He's getting Republicans.
You know, Nikki Haley's bouncing around.
Mike Pompeo's bouncing around.
All going to be fine.
This is all going to be great.
And then kaboom, kaboom, you boom!
The five horsemen of the deep state apocalypse.
So hey, guess what?
On Wednesday, on Thursday afternoon of the 21st of November, 21 November, the year of our Lord, 2024, hey, it ain't five horsemen, it's four horsemen.
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One horseman's gone.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Gone.
And we've got to face a fact.
There is blood in the water and they smell the blood.
They understand they could either all hang together or you're going to hang separately.
They get this.
This is why they're going to try to drive wedges in and try to cull the herd.
This is Alinsky 101. That's what we're up against.
Alinsky 101. And people better savvy up to this and hunker down.
And guess what?
It's fixed bayonets.
Let's see who's tough enough.
We're tougher than them if we get organized and say, guess what?
No more.
No more.
People have to understand.
Don't think this is a speed bump.
It's a lot deeper than a speed bump.
Matt Gaetz was the best of the best.
The best of the best.
You know what we say here in the war room?
Wait for it.
Wait for it.
Next man up.
Short commercial break.
We'll be back in the war room in just a moment.
unidentified
I'll count your blessings.
Be your servant.
Till his will is done.
Could you be free?
Could it be true that everything you're learning school was always just done?
At least that Matt Gaetz is acting in self-interest.
I think the particulars of this ethics investigation would have come out, and he would have had to deal with it.
He would have had, and the administration, the incoming administration would have had to deal with it.
So I think it's a self-interested move.
And I don't want us to get too far over our skis with regards to Republican senators here.
I think Matt Gaetz is an easy case for them to exercise, advise, and consent in this regard.
But I still think Donald Trump will be consistent in his efforts to, in some ways, reel the DOJ in.
He's worried about its independence.
Donald Trump is, in so many ways, with these appointments, trying to consolidate his view of executive power.
And so, just as Ken noted, we need to be concerned about who he's going to nominate in place of Gaetz.
So I think Two things.
One, Gates is acting in self-interest.
Two, the Senate, let's not get over our skis in terms of them being a check and balance on Donald Trump.
And three, let's just realize we're in the chaos again.
And here it is.
It's just beginning.
So change the face, but not the plan.
So my whole idea, I think there are two things that are running parallel that are about to converge.
One is that Donald Trump has an expansive sense of executive power.
We've been worried and concerned about the imperial presidency up until this point.
We're going to see an imperial presidency on steroids.
And so there's a reason why he wants to have a certain kind of appointment in DOJ. There's a reason for Gilbert Gabbard and DNI. There's a reason for the appointment at DOD. I think we need to understand that for what it is.
And then I also think there's also this effort to gum up government.
Not so much to appoint people who are competent, who demonstrate skill and experience, but folk who are committed to really deconstructing the administrative state.
And so part of what we need to keep track of is how he's going to try to consolidate executive power, and two, how he's going to try to gum up government by way of appointing people who really have no interest in governance.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So, Professor Eddie Cloud there.
The professor's accurate except for at the end.
He's right about the converging.
So, get your number two pencils out.
And this piece of nomenclature, which we're making sure folks totally understand the intellectual construct of it, because the idea, ideas have consequences.
This is an idea...
That's going to flow through the Trump second term in a much more organized and coherent way than the first term.
Remember, it was in February of 2017 that I made that ahead that Reince and I were up there with Matt Schlapp at CPAC, where I talked about the direction, the lines of work of the first Trump term.
And the third line, I said, was the deconstruction of the administrative state.
Now, we weren't, quite frankly, in the early days of kind of this populist nationalist movement and the surprise win, we didn't really have the intellectual firepower or the muzzle velocity on the idea to push it through.
So we went back to kind of the deregulation mode.
That's not deconstruction of the administrative state.
That is just taking regulations off.
It could be very powerful, particularly for the economy.
But that's like at a surface level.
It's not actually taking the thing apart brick by brick and reforming it.
And that was something that was done.
And it's one of the reasons we led to the great economics that we had later.
But that's just regulation.
In this time, we've had much more to think about.
One thing we got there, and this is where Mike Davis and Mark Paoletta and Bill McGinley and others of us have been working together on this project for eight or ten years.
The other critical part of it was the selection of the Supreme Court justices, and this gets back to this complicated Greek tragedy interconnects to Merrick Garland.
Merrick Garland was selected in the summer of, and I think it was because Scalia passed away, he was selected to be the new associate justice.
And the Democratic forces were so arrogant, and they were going to blow out Trump, they didn't move his nomination forward.
They didn't force the action.
They didn't force it through.
Number one is that there were a lot of people in Hillary's camp that thought Obama was too conservative, and they thought Merrick Garland was too much of a centrist.
They wanted a more Larry Tribe type.
Couldn't be Tribe because he's too old, because you want to get these guys.
Even Garland was quite old for what our target is, which is in their 40s.
We wanted an upset, so we got that slot.
The first guy out was Neil Gorsuch.
Neil Gorsuch was selected for a principal reason.
He was the intellectual architect of this movement, really came from the libertarian side, of the deconstruction of the administrative state, of taking the administrative state on.
If you don't take that on, this leviathan is going to overwhelm you and you're going to have no liberty.
And this is what we've seen in these four years.
That was pay a letter.
And who got him through?
Who was his clerk?
It was Mike Davis.
And who was the guy that got him through working with Grassland and Kavanaugh?
Mike Davis.
So we fought this fight.
But the thing that I realized then is that, hey, you have to anchor it in the courts.
You have to anchor it in the courts.
Those checks and balances.
You want to deconstruct the administration.
It just can't be the executive.
It just can't be the legislature.
It's got to be anchored in the courts.
And now we've anchored it.
Now...
In the working through, and this is what I found so upsetting about Brennan's comments today when we started the show, there is this concept of the unitary executive.
This is what Professor Glaude's talking about, and this is where there's this theory of the case, particularly in that the Constitution lays out that the president is the chief executive of the government.
He's also commander-in-chief as a civilian of the armed forces.
And he's, wait for it, the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer.
Post-Watergate, this is what's been hived off.
The Justice Department is hermetically sealed, but it's all run by these progressive attorneys.
It's the most powerful of all the departments because every department you have to go through justice.
You have to go through main justice.
Plus they control all the U.S. attorneys throughout the country.
It is immensely powerful.
Oh, by the way, it controls the investigative branch and the FBI. This fight over the unitary executive is there coming at us saying, oh, Trump has this imperial presidency.
What do they mean by the imperial presidency?
They mean pre-Watergate.
Of Nixon and Johnson and a little bit Kennedy, but Eisenhower all the way back to FDR. The imperial presidency.
Where the executive is above everybody else.
Well, you still have the checks and balances, but the unitary executive...
To me, says that all three of these, CEO, Commander-in-Chief, and Chief Magistrate, this is the reason Milley has to be recalled to active duty on the afternoon of the 20th and court-martialed.
The military, the uniformed services, and also with the senior officers about Afghanistan, the military...
Must understand in no uncertain terms that they report to the civilian.
If that civilian is Donald Trump or AOC or Bernie Sanders, whoever it is, it doesn't matter.
The American people render a judgment.
It's their judgment.
That's what they want.
And that's what they're going to get.
That's democracy.
It's messy and it's hard.
And it's tough.
And sometimes you don't get the outcomes you like, but that's the way the structure of this government's work.
And we've got this fourth branch of government that the founders and framers, the revolutionary generation, not in a billion years would have ever felt that we let grow around this.
This is what they hated about the crown.
Remember, their central argument about the crown is that the crown, with all his courtiers, had corrupted commons.
The commons was basically bought and paid for by this worthless landist aristocracy that also, oh, by the way, gave monopolistic power to companies that they chose with a crown, you know, right of mark, i.e., the British East India Company that brought the tea into Boston Harbor that was thrown over the side in the Boston Tea Party.
This fight goes back to the revolution.
That's why I say we are linked by patriot graves all the way back to the beginning.
We answer to them.
We answer to their memory.
We answer to their great victories.
Professor Glaude, when he says converge, he doesn't say gum up.
No.
It is the theory of the unitary executive, and this gets to counter Brennan.
When Brennan says, well, the FBI, they have to go through the security checks, and these checks goes, you know, they have...
No, bro.
No.
Wrong.
Inside the executive, there's no check and balance.
There's none.
The Constitution doesn't call for that.
It's none.
It's not a check and balance inside the executive.
The checks and balance are the legislative and the judiciary.
Just like the executives check and balance on them.
No, sir.
This is what the deep state is.
The permanent government thinks that they have a check on the, what they call the politicals, the democratic elected government.
You don't have that.
No, sir.
This is a convergence.
Professor Glaude, it's not to gum up the works.
It is actually to take it apart brick by brick and to reconstitute it.
Into a limited government that is necessary in an entrepreneurial capitalist society, right?
To make sure that we get the blessings of liberty.
That's it in a nutshell.
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And that is a massive, massive fight.
And we took a casualty today.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
One of the Best warriors we have.
In all his imperfections, and he's quite imperfect, as Donald Trump is imperfect, as Stephen K. Bannon is a super imperfect, and Tucker Carlson and Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., all of it.
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Very, very, very imperfect instruments.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But in that imperfection is some of their power.
We took a casualty today.
One of the reasons we took a casualty, I hate to say it, let me be brutally frank, you can't stick these people out there with no air cover.
What are we doing?
You can't stick them out there and take them off television.
They're the best at selling themselves.
You take them off television for five, six, seven, eight days and it's nothing but incoming?
Where is the plan and where is the execution of the plan?
It's a big defeat for President Trump today.
And trust me, those demons and jackals and hyenas up there in the United States Senate, Mitch McConnell and that crowd, they know it.
Yo, they know it.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
Back in a moment.
katy tur ▲ ● ▼
...do with and had no idea who was involved with Project 2025. Donald Trump's picks for his new administration, well, they suggest otherwise.
At least six of Trump's nominees or appointees have ties to Project 2025, either as advisors, authors, contributors, or in promotional videos.
That number is also likely to rise.
Trump is reportedly leaning toward appointing Russ Vought to lead the White House Budget Office for a second This time with a sharper intention.
In the Project 2025 chapter, he wrote on the executive office, he focused on the expansion of presidential powers and a more aggressive wielding of executive authority.
So Vaughn, explain the now closer and closer ties Donald Trump has to something that he disavowed during the campaign.
vaughn hillyard ▲ ● ▼
Exactly.
He repeatedly denied having anything to do with Project 2025, despite him speaking, of course, at essentially the launch dinner of Project 2025 and noting that these people were his friends.
They carried out his first administration and they were going to be the masterminds of what his second administration and transition would look like.
And you're seeing some of these figures come into his incoming administration.
People like Russ Vo.
Let's be very clear.
If he were to take over OMB, He was a key writer in Project 2025, writing in part about the executive branch's use of power and making the case that departments and agencies have taken on a mind of their own,
as he wrote, and that the executive branch should fall under the direction of The President of the United States and that it is not up to these departments and agencies to interpret regulations but it's of the courts or strict language that is written thereof that is passed by the Congress.
And so I think for Donald Trump when you're looking at Project 2025 we knew that they had ties and now we are seeing this beginning to play out based off the individuals who he is bringing back into the fold because it was these folks who wrote that 900 page book on how the departments and agencies could more effectively run.
katy tur ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, and this was seen as a blueprint for what Donald Trump could do if he were to win again.
Donald Trump obviously disavowed it, but he's appointing people who have ties to it, as we keep talking about.
Olivia, when you looked through Project 2025, I know it's a very long booklet, and you're looking at who he's putting into these positions of power, what is your expectation of how that manifesto will end up affecting decisions made while Donald Trump is back in the White House.
unidentified
Oh, I have no doubt that this agenda will be implemented.
Look, I mean, this started during the first Trump administration.
I think some of these policies were tested, and they were met with resistance from people who were adhering to the rule of law and what government is really meant to do.
It's for the people, by the people, and serving them.
But I think that there is a group that has a very extreme agenda here, and you're going to see a lot of these people get appointed into these roles.
And I want to get back to Russ Vogt because I think that is one person that I'm watching closely.
I want to be clear that that role in the Office of Management and Budget is critical because it really oversees the coordination of policy across the federal government.
And all of these players that are involved, like Stephen Miller, Tom Homan, like all of these different people that are being mentioned, were all part of the first time around where they tried to push some extreme immigration measures.
Or, for example, when OMB got involved, sometimes they wouldn't even allow policies that told hospitals how to wash I mean, hospital gowns during the pandemic, during a crisis.
These were the hold-ups because it was being held by people working in OMB who were not doctors, who shouldn't be involved in these processes.
And that's why this matters.
And so I think it's important to really study that 900-page plan.
I read it front to back, and I know that a lot of these things that are in there when people are like, oh, it was hyperbole.
No, these are the policy agendas, and that is what we're up against going forward.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, welcome back.
A lot said there, and a lot of it quite smart.
Our enemies do a good job of deconstructing what's going on.
So Russ Vogt, we've had him here on for the last four years, ever since he left the Trump administration first term.
One of the single smartest guys I've ever met, and one of the smartest guys ever about the U.S. government.
Outside of the chief of staff, The power centers in a West Wing, the first level are the Chief of Staff, the White House Counsel, and OMB. And you might throw a couple of senior counselors in there, whoever they happen to be, who are senior advisors to the principal, to POTUS, in any administration.
But those three run nodes of power That are essential.
Everything comes to the White House Council because everything's got some legal aspect to it.
OMB has about 600 I think permanent employees and 30 roughly political people that are assigned or brought in.
Every program, when you pass this budget, right, when you do the appropriations, you pass over a budget to kind of get your top line number.
You then have the appropriations process where you fight it through.
And then it's finally negotiated and passed.
Once it goes over, it's like, well, then what happens?
How do people get the money?
Well, it's broken down.
Office of Management budget.
Is out to every agency, the Defense Department, the Agriculture Department, the Interior Department, the Treasury Department.
How that $6.5 or $7 trillion gets spent, believe it or not, it's all tracked down to literally the penny, when it goes in, where it goes, who got the money, and programmatically where they stand on doing whatever they do.
So although it may seem vastly inefficient, and it is, It is tracked.
Like MTG was on here today, say, hey, we've given $250 billion to Ukraine, and she's asking for an audit, and we haven't got anything, because they're sitting there going, I don't know where it goes.
I don't know where it is.
They're lying to her.
She knows they're lying to her.
So programmatically, OMB is a beast.
And the head of OMB has immense and enormous power.
This is why I keep talking about the Doge element.
And now I think because the way the doge, and let's leave the bro side aside because they're beating on chess, and that's great.
We need that.
That energy helped us win on November 5th, and we need that.
We need more of that.
But in the reality of how actually things are going to get accomplished, if you read the Doge layout, it's not a new department.
It is a group of outside, and they're very upfront, Vivek and Ilan.
We're outside the government.
Advisors and consultants too.
Wait for it.
OMB. And this makes incredible sense.
It's very smart.
The Doge, and they're going to have their own group, and of course, MTG's got the subcommittee on oversight, which I also think is brilliant, to now kind of work in unison with Russ Vogt and his team on the Project 2025. Did I say that?
I love, I love triggering the libs, owning the libs with the Project 2025 guys that may or may not be coming on board.
In this regard, if you want to get control of the Leviathan, you get control of the cash.
Remember in Watergate?
Follow the money.
Follow the money.
Here, it is the money of not the sources of cash, which is a problem and an issue.
This is the uses of cash.
You have sources and uses.
Anytime you do a financing or a merger, acquisition, restructuring, bankruptcy, sources of cash, uses of cash.
This is the uses side.
And this is where Vivek and Ilan and others are going to go through and see how you deconstruct this entity called a state or a government, right?
State power to actually come together and to try to take programmatically because it's not always fraud and abuse.
It's going to become programs.
We're not going to do this.
We're not going to do that.
We're not going to do this.
The private sector can do it or we incentivize people to do it.
This is why Russ's vote is so important.
And this is the all-important line of work on both the finance, and I think later tonight, or maybe tomorrow, we will have a Secretary of the Treasury and maybe a head of the National Economic Council.
Remember, anchored in the White House right through to an agency.
Anchored with...
With Bill McGinley as White House counsel, right?
All the way through justice to the Attorney General, the DAG, the PDAG, all of it.
Now, the structure there is fine.
We have a problem, Houston.
We have a problem.
The anchor on the other side, Matt Gaetz, is now a casualty of war.
He is a casualty of political war.
He's our first casualty.
Fixed bayonets.
You're in the trenches.
You're going over the top.
Boom.
Gates is gone.
That happens.
This is kind of the equivalent of in the Civil War of Albert Sidney Johnson, arguably our greatest general at the time, getting taken out in Shiloh in April, I think, of 1862 at the beginning of everything.
You lose some of the great ones right out of the box.
Or, because I'm not just sitting there arguing for rebels, General Philip Kearney, who died second Manassas, one of the greats, an incredible individual, incredible, one-armed, one of just the absolute greats, killed, I think, at second Manassas, another one.
You just lose them right at the beginning, and these are the types of guys you can never make up.
That's Gates.
Gates is out.
Will he come back and be special prosecutor?
Yes, Gates is always going to be a player in this.
Is he advisor to the president?
Does he go in the West Wing?
Maybe that's what we do.
He don't have to be confirmed.
There's lots of things to do with Gates.
He's a tremendous value.
But in the reality, in that line of work, which to AG is absolutely essential, he's out.
And they're blood in the water.
And they've got to win.
They've got a big win.
But on another aspect of the line of work, which is equally important, and that is the getting together of our finances and the economy and unlocking the power of this entrepreneurial capitalist society, it is taking on the Leviathan.
Because until you take on the Leviathan and get this, one, it's going to do all kinds of stuff you don't want it to do, which are bad things.
Many bad things like initiate and exacerbate an evasion of every country.
Think about that for a second.
Initiate and exacerbate an evasion of 10 or 15 million.
Are you kidding me?
Illegal aliens in this country.
So the administrative state and the deep state do many, many bad things.
That has to be deconstructed so that we have a limited government that helps to maximize the potential from a capitalist society.
And so that folks can get the blessings of liberty, which is the whole radical idea that started this constitutional republic.
That's it.
If this wasn't the idea, we would have been the anchor.
You had India in the Pacific, or the Indian Ocean, or the Eurasian landmass, and you had the United States of North America.
They were about the same time, roughly, the two legs to the beginning of a massive empire, the British Empire.
We opted out in basically laying the predicate stage, the kind of launch by the revolutionary generation, the heroes, that every patriot grave would go back to the revolution.
And because of defying providence, providential, next April 20th, approximately, I don't know, 90 days into Trump's second term, It's the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord, the shot heard around the world.
That just doesn't happen.
Divine providence worked through Trump and worked through you, your agency, to get us here today.
And hey, it's going to be such a struggle.
And today, I hope this was a wake-up call.
I hope this was a bitch slap.
That we lost one of the greats.
And he may be back, but he ain't going to be in the role that we need him as Attorney General.
We lost it.
But we picked up Russ Vogt.
And Russ Vogt is a organizer that can organize what DOGE is going to do, what can help organize what the appropriation is going to do.
And to give President Trump a much clearer management plan.
of how we lay the predicate for the management part of how we're going to unleash the vitality of this economy and start to finance it like adults would finance.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
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We're trying to get Ken Paxton up to join us at 6. Posobiec's going to be here.
A lot going on.
I've asked Posobiec to join us on things related to Matt Gaetz and particularly in Ukraine.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, we've got to hunker down.
We've got to hunker down.
If you want to change this government, you're going to have to get agents of change.
Change agents in there.
Agents of change.
People like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. People like Tulsi Gabbard.
People like Kristi Noem.
People like Kash Patel.
Waiting for that one.
Hope we're not disappointed.
Waiting for that one.
Waiting for Treasury.
Waiting for NEC. Right?
You got Hegseth over defense.
He's putting a good team around him.
You need change agents.
Agents of change.
It's not going to be easy.
It's not going to be easy.
And President Trump won a sweeping victory up on Capitol Hill in that Senate right now.
They're thinking, hey, we got him.
He's abandoning these guys.
They talk big.
All hat, no cattle.
They come up here, the first guy, the golden boy, the guy, the Gates, the guy, he's the lead guy, the lead tank, he's the guy.
Boom, gone.
Suck on that.
How tough are you guys?
Well, we're going to have to prove we're pretty tough.
I keep saying you back off of these things, they're going to roll you, they're going to roll you, they're going to roll you.
So I don't know what's happening down there, but here's what I do know.
Because I saw my own lying eyes.
You take these five guys, the five horsemen of the apocalypse, and you take them off television.
Because I can understand it.
But you only do that if you have an air game.
Where's the air game?
Where are the surrogates?
Where are the sponsors?
Where's the constantly?
Boom, boom, boom.
They're out there buck-ass naked with no air cover.
Of course they're going to get crushed.
And then people say, oh, Gates, you know, hey, I don't want to hear it.
Trump gave an order and a command us to execute on it.
You got an order, execute on it.
If you got a problem with that, talk about it up front.
But once the order, once the plays call, run the play.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Six o'clock hour.
Got postal coming.
A lot to go through.
Number one is hang separately or hang together.
Right?
I guess it's hang together or hang separately.
Appropriate way to say it.
Also about Ukraine.
We got a situation over there.
We got a metastasizing conflict.
And somebody better in the house better get Biden and find out what in the hell is going on here.
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