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Nov. 14, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 652: Taking On The Full Apparatus
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natalie winters
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room.
Battleground.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Of the most prominent people of the Department of Justice, all selected by Donald Trump saying they cannot do this.
And so what I see with these announcements is a real blow to the independence of the Department of Justice, the independence of the intelligence community.
And that is, you know, to put a fine point on it, if this were to come about, that is a blow to any check that they could pose to the president.
And an undermining of the rule of law in this country that is so fundamental that it really takes us one step closer to countries that we heretofore have viewed as enemies of a democracy.
What exactly would be their rationalization for not appointing somebody like Matt Gaetz or Pete Hegseth after they supported a felon for president?
It's like, well, Matt Gaetz had some allegations against him.
Well, you supported a felon for president who was indicted in four different jurisdictions.
Well, Pete, a Hegseth is on Sirius.
Well, you supported a reality TV host who was a scam artist who had a failed university and failed water company for president.
So there's no rationale for being for Donald Trump for commander in chief and not whatever ridiculous alignment of characters he chooses to be around him and his cabinet.
So I find the whole thing, to your point about people's reaction yesterday, I was just looking online and listening to your previous guests.
And it's like the reporters on the Hill saying that John Cornyn is snorting and people at the Pentagon are aghast.
It's like, where were all these people?
Obviously, Donald Trump was going to pick his cronies and TV show hosts to run the government.
That's what he told us.
He was going to do.
And so, you know, I think that there are some people, the former establishment of the GOP now is MAGA, but the former establishment of the GOP, the ones who remain, John Thune and all of them, they're in for a rude awakening as these hits are going to keep on coming.
And I expect that most of these people, if not all of them, will be confirmed and possibly confirmed by a recess appointment, which would be an unprecedented destruction of norms.
But that would just be the latest in a long line of unprecedented norm destructions.
nicolle wallace ▲ ● ▼
Again, Andrew, just talk about what kind of person...
I mean, the person that runs the department actually isn't the AG, it's the principal deputy.
It's the job that Lisa Monaco has.
What kind of person would go in and be principal deputy to Matt Gaetz and make all of the sort of...
Offices all across the country, all the U.S. attorney's offices, the places that actually prosecute the kind of criminals Donald Trump spent four years making his base very, very afraid of.
The people who hold those people to account and send them to jail are in many instances of their federal crimes, the U.S. attorneys around the country.
What kind of person would go run the department for Matt Gaetz?
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Well, to me, it would have to be somebody who's equally sort of, you know, untethered to the facts and law, because that would just be an incredibly difficult position.
I mean, the deputy attorney general is, as you know, sort of the chief operating officer and deals with a lot of the day-to-day.
But I cannot stress enough, though, that even with that, the attorney general sets policy— The way in which he or she conducts herself or himself really sets a tone for what is expected within the department.
They set policies that everyone adheres to and that the deputy attorney general, the number two, establishes and promulgates within the department.
So it is very hard to get it would be very hard to get a serious deputy attorney general in there.
But in this situation, you would clearly need to have somebody who was a former prosecutor and ideally with intelligence community expertise.
That's why Lisa Monaco was so extraordinary because she has such a breadth of knowledge on the criminal and national security side.
But it's hard to see how this administration is going to attract somebody like that.
You're going to nominate somebody like Matt Gaetz and what that signals in terms of, I would say, the way in which the White House is going to view the department, which is just a political tool of the White House.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, welcome.
You're in the War Room.
It's Wednesday, 13 November 2024.
Okay, so Weissman.
Lisa Monaco is a crook.
A known crook.
You're a crook.
Weissman, my advice to you is get your lawn chair, your flip-flops, your jams, your tank top.
That's a sight.
Get yourself all vacationed up, ready.
Go buy a ticket.
Get on a plane.
Go to a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the United States of America.
Because, brother...
I am sure you're at the top of the list.
And I will tell you, sir, coming out of a federal prison, I don't think your federal prison time will be enjoyable.
What you have done to try to destroy people and go after people, hey, the hunted are becoming the hunters.
Now, Matt Gaetz is going to be very even-handed.
He's got so much more to do at DOJ. But we have to...
Have a reality check in that you are one of the leaders in the weaponization of government.
And you and McCabe, I know you're worried.
You can see you're worried.
You don't have that big arrogant man when you were there and Trump was all in the docket, in the dock, right?
You're up there all puffed up on MSM. You ain't not so puffed up anymore, bro.
Got that worried look.
Got that worried look.
You got a man up.
You see the way I walk into court?
You see the way I walk into prison?
Spit right in your eye, dude.
Gotta man up.
You better man up, dude.
You're one of the instigators.
You're one of the ringleaders.
Merrick Garland's gonna go to prison.
Lisa Monica's gonna go to prison.
Andrew Weissman's gonna go to prison.
Yep.
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Yep.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yipper.
After a course, investigation, adjudication, all of it.
In daylight.
Your biggest enemy is transparency.
Shifty shift.
All of it.
All of it.
The weaponization of this government against citizens, against political figures, all of it, bro.
You had your shot.
Had your shot, man.
Had your shot.
You had eight years.
You had four years during President Trump to torment him.
You had four.
You had eight years.
Eight years.
You guys started immediately after we won on the nullification project, on the Russia hoax.
Eight years you had.
Almost a decade.
Eight years.
And we're still standing.
Now we're still standing.
And this is quite important.
This is the key point.
The American people were able to weigh and measure this.
And the American people's verdict is that they back Trump.
So therefore, Trump deserves the Attorney General he wants.
And he's going to get the Attorney General he wants.
And if John Thune's got anything to say to it, he better call up Donald John Trump tonight and get it all on the line.
Because we don't want to hear it.
They're going to put forward these nominations.
These are selected after a deep review and thinking by President Trump.
Personally selected by him.
He has put forward the team, or at least maybe a third of the team that he wants.
He's going to put forward much more than that.
And I think if you see Gates, hey, RFK's coming too.
He's got Tulsi and Congressman Gates, Pete Hexeth.
He's got a mandate.
American people gave him a mandate.
Remember President Lincoln...
President Lincoln got a mandate in the Electoral College, but he was a minority popular vote president.
President Trump got an overwhelming popular vote win, electoral count landslide, basically.
Carried the battleground states, threw in Nevada, new battleground state, threw it in.
The American people weighed in measure, and you were inundated for years.
Weissman, you were on TV with MSNBC and all the producers of MSNBC. Preserve your documents.
Ari Melbourne, all you hosts, preserve your documents.
All of it.
You better be worried.
You better lawyer up.
Some of you young producers better call mom and dad tonight.
Hey, mom and dad, you know a good lawyer?
Lawyer up.
Lawyer up.
You tried to destroy Trump.
You tried to imprison Trump.
You tried to break Trump.
He's not breakable.
You couldn't destroy him.
And now he has turned on you.
And he's put a firebrand in charge of main justice, Department of Justice.
And you're going to have to live with it.
Andrew Weissman and all your...
McCabe and Comey.
Oh, my Lord.
You haven't heard me.
I've never complained about this.
Never bitched and moaned about it.
It just came with the territory.
I understood they feared us.
And why did they fear us?
Because we were coming to take down the globalists and the deep state.
And that was the mandate.
That is what we ran on in 16.
They tried to stop it.
And that's when they stole the election.
Let me repeat, stole the election in 2020.
Pulled out everything possible.
And now, in 2024, couldn't do it.
This is a fight, the American people, this fight's been going on nine years, ten years.
And the American people weighed and measured with overwhelming media against us.
MSNBC, CBS, ABC, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, all of it.
The Economist, all of it.
The American people are inundated with it.
And who led the American people through this?
Who was it?
Was it the college, everything we put into college?
All the Ivy League schools?
Was it the Ivy League schools?
Were the students at the Ivy League schools?
Was everybody the graduates?
Were the people that had the benefit of Ivy League and great school education that had gone into the law firms, had gone into the investment banks, had gone into the hedge fund, had gone to Hollywood, had gone to Silicon Valley, that had gone to Wall Street?
They'd gone to all the consumer companies and worked in the marketing department, all the girls from Brown working at, you know, working all the media companies of the marketing and the media advertising buying.
Was it them?
Was it the most educated part of our society?
Was it them?
Did they save the Republic?
Did they step forward and say, I've seen this and this is wrong.
I've been trained, I've been trained in critical thinking.
This is wrong.
Was it them?
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Was it them?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ask yourself, was it them?
It was not.
It was working-class people.
It was black men in horrible situations in the inner cities, Hispanic men, Hispanic women.
It was working-class whites in rural communities.
That's what weighed and measured the elites in this nation and found them wanting.
And they rendered a judgment.
And that judgment was, we back Trump.
A lot of them didn't know Trump, hated Trump.
They said, hey, I see what they're coming after this guy, and I see what my life is like, and I see the lies they tell and the misrepresentation, the way they run the deal.
I don't know much about Trump.
I don't really understand his economic policy.
I don't know much about him.
But you know what?
I back him because they hate him.
And if they hate him, I'm for him.
It wasn't all the money we put in education.
The college-educated people in this country, by and large, don't know a lot.
The ones that back Trump are kind of the young bros.
Going to Joe Rogan, going, that's fine, go.
They're having an awakening.
Because they haven't been taught this in school.
They haven't access to it.
In the woke high schools we got, in the woke grade schools, you see the librarians with the hair and what they got, the hell, the pornography they got in the schools and trying to lock the parents up because the parents go to school board meetings.
No, the educated in this nation did not step forward.
It was the working men and women of every race, every ethnicity, every color, that stepped forward and said, this is not right.
This is not right.
This is not the United States of America.
This is not right.
And it's their connective tissue back to the founding of this republic in an unbroken chain.
And now today you've got Weissman up there bleating Man up, dude.
You're embarrassing.
Man up, and you better man up, bro.
Because you've got a bunch of tough years ahead of you.
As many people at MSNBC and CNN, hey.
Chip's gonna fall where they may.
The hunted now become the hunters.
Yep.
With the full apparatus.
But here's the difference.
Here's the difference.
Here's the difference.
It's gonna be totally transparent.
It's going to start with a mass declassification of all this information we're keeping back from.
American people shouldn't keep it back.
American people should understand that.
Should see it.
And see what you've done.
It's going to be fully transparent, all of it.
And all the interconnections.
Norm Eisen and all these NGOs and, you know, and Reid Hoffman's all worried.
You better be worried!
You big billionaire donors, you better be worried.
You better lawyer up.
You should be worried.
And these phony NGOs, everything from initiating, exacerbating the invasion of Southern border to what you did to try to destroy people, you should be worried.
And the politicians that work with them, and the Justice Department lawyers, all the way up to Lisa Monaco and Merrick Garland.
And Weissman, you and Comey and all those guys, Brennan, the 51 that signed the phony letter, that knew about it, you better be worried.
Because you tried to destroy this country.
You tried to destroy the people that stood up and said, this is wrong, this is wrong, this cannot go on.
And the American people had the time and the information to think this through.
And the information came from podcasts and it came from streaming services and it came from Instagram and Twitter and all of it, and bits and pieces and then more.
And the American people rendered their verdict.
And their verdict was, we want Trump.
We want Trump in charge.
And when they put him in charge, they put him in charge as the chief executive officer of this government.
They put him in charge as the commander-in-chief of the armed forces.
And they put him in charge as the chief magistrate in the United States of America, this constitutional republic.
And as such, he is selecting his team, 4,000 of them, And 3,000 of them are going to go into the agencies, into the White House, and different places that don't have to hit the...
It could be a landing team and a beachhead team, and then boom, hit it.
Get in and get your work done.
And 1,000 of these, at the senior levels, have to be confirmed by the United States Senate, as laid out in the Constitution, the advice and consent of the United States Senate.
And he wants the advice...
Then he wants your consent.
And it is going to happen.
And this is a historical moment.
This is where, this is that fork in the road.
You go down one path, it's one way.
You go down another path, it's another way.
This is why I've been preaching the gospel.
Seize the institutions.
They say, oh, we're the institutionalists.
These are the destructive people.
They want to burn down.
No, we do not want to burn it all down.
No, that's not true.
What we want to do is set things right.
We want to go off this fourth branch of government that the founders and the revolutionary generation, the framers, never envisioned.
Never envisioned.
This administrative state that's just metastasized.
That's choking back.
Even the progressives of Silicon Valley say, you've got to take off these regulations.
There's multiple regulations.
We've got to get back to more of a free market economy.
And then it's metastasized as an American empire rose after World War II and the ashes of World War II as an American empire rose and rose and rose and kept rising.
This American empire and a deep state element of it.
Of the intelligence apparatus, the law enforcement apparatus, the military apparatus, the media information war apparatus, the propaganda apparatus, then high tech, which Natalie Winters, I'm going to bring here in a second, has followed so closely.
And now, the path we're going down Is a path of total and complete transparency.
To put before the American people what they have given us a mandate to do.
This was not hidden on the campaign.
This is what this has been about.
Remember, please remember, always and everywhere you ran on democracy.
You ran on that we were the anti-democratic forces, that we were the fascists, that we were the Nazis, that we were the authoritarians, we were the autocrats.
You ran on that.
That was your number one thing, always.
That and abortion, but that That.
That.
And every night on MSNBC, you shoved it down our throats.
In the New York Times, you shoved it down our throats.
That's fine.
I said, if they want to do that, come on.
Bring it.
Bring it.
And you brought it, and you lost it.
Do you think the educated college crowd in this country, the credentialed class, are going to fight for this country?
And where you've sent these troops throughout the world to die on these battlefields, do you think they'll ever defend anything?
Would they defend the southern border?
Would they defend this republic?
No, they will not defend it because they're gutless cowards.
But the people you put the burden on, they have the tax burden on them, and you invite 11 million people here to compete with them for the measly jobs they've got, and the low wages they've got, and the terrible schools they've got, and the shitty healthcare they've got, to bury them, they stood up.
And they had Trump's back, because they've seen how you treat them.
And they say, I don't know much about this Trump.
He's totally a bad guy.
He's a patriarch.
He's a bad guy.
But you know what?
I can see what I see.
And I see that they're trying to destroy him.
And they're down the path of destroying me.
So you know what?
I think I'm going to throw in with Trump.
From the Rio Grande Valley to Queens.
From Dearborn, Michigan to South Florida.
And they have rendered their judgment, and their judgment is that you ran on democracy and you lost democracy.
They like our version of it, and now you're about to get that version of it, which is total and complete transparency.
And oh, you're gonna get it.
Because I see President Trump and who he's lining up.
You know what the common thing of most of the people he's announced over the last couple of days, the warrior class that he's announced?
Is courage.
Is relentless courage.
Matt Gaetz, the FBI came against him.
Hey, he was not going to fold.
He was not going to cut a deal.
He was not going to do anything.
Not going to quit.
None of it.
Don't care if you send him in prison.
Don't care if you break him.
Don't care if you bankrupt him.
That's courage.
That's just raw courage.
And trust me, when they come after you with that entire state apparatus, you can have some dark nights of the soul.
And President Trump had them.
President Trump had them.
You read Jack Kennedy's book, Profiles in Courage, you read it.
He wrote and won the Pulitzer Prize for it.
Or Ted Sorensen wrote it.
He edited it and he won the Pulitzer Prize for it.
And then you see the Profiles in Courage we've had.
I'll match the stories in that book with ours and we win every day.
You look at the courage of the people that have had to fight this.
From 2015 to 2016.
Who they tried to break.
Thousands of people.
And guess what?
The number one quality of MAGA, besides courage, is resilience.
Is resilience.
You cannot break us because there's always a next man up.
Hell, I went to prison for four months.
This show didn't change.
You stepped up.
The host stepped up.
The producer stepped up.
The audience stepped up.
And you were part of delivering one of the biggest victories in American political history.
Because you stepped up.
He said, it's my duty to step up.
That's across the board.
And now President Trump has asked Matt Gaetz to step up as Attorney General of these United States.
And Matt Gaetz has answered in the affirmative.
And Matt Gaetz is going to be the Attorney General of the United States.
And so people in the Republican Senate You better get on board.
With all these nominations, but particularly this nomination, no, I do not think, and we should not do a recess appointment.
This should be, I recommend, voted on.
We have to show them that, hey, we ain't going to do this in the dark, we're not going to do a recess appointment, don't need to.
Maybe on a couple of three, maybe, hey, you never know, but not this one.
Not this one.
They have to go on the record.
Because we're an inflection point in the history of this republic.
And it's ironic, it's coming basically on the eve of the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord, which will happen, wait for it, on the eve of the 100th day of Trump's second term.
You don't think that's providential?
You don't think that's providential?
You don't think the Holy Spirit's working here?
You don't think divine providence is working here?
I think you would be incorrect.
And the fear in Andrew Weissman's eyes and the cracking of his voice tells you everything you want to know.
They ain't so tough when you strip away state power from them.
When you take these Bolsheviks, and that's what they are, is Bolsheviks.
When you take these Bolsheviks and you strip away state power, let me see how tough you are, Weissman.
Let me see what a tough guy you are.
Because you're going to have years and years and years and years to show us how tough you actually are.
You and all your kind.
McCabe, Storch, all of them.
Comey, Brennan, all of them.
The 51 that signed that letter, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We have to give the American people...
The evidence of what happened here and let them weigh and measure that.
And I strongly believe when the American people see the evidence and weigh and measure it, they will sit there and go, we made a good choice.
We knew Trump.
We couldn't articulate, but we knew Trump.
They were trying to destroy Trump for a reason.
And they couldn't destroy Trump, and they certainly couldn't destroy the people that have Trump's back.
unidentified
There's something very big going on here, folks.
We'll be right back.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We're going to take a short commercial break.
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My co-host, our executive editor, one of the most outstanding young women in this country, Natalie Winters, is going to join us after a short commercial break.
Because Jesus put the light in you.
Light in you.
Oh, count your blessings.
Be your servant till his will is done.
Could you be clear, could it be true that everything you learned in school was always just done?
Matt Gaetz is a self-avowed and admitted partisan warrior.
That's the opposite of the nonpartisan credentials sought for the nation's top law enforcement officer.
Gaetz moved to the right of his own Republican leadership in the House, famously.
He helped dethrone a speaker who had been meeting with Donald Trump and arguing that he was Trump enough.
Gaetz faced his own federal investigation for his own conduct, although he was not charged in that.
But even in the polarized MAGA era, Matt Gaetz has been decried by his fellow Republicans as well as Democrats and other observers alike for putting the flamethrowing, vicious partisan antics that he is known for above any semblance or even gesture towards cooperation or caring about Congress's duties and the national interest.
I've made it a living hell for the swamp rats, and many of them are retiring now.
If the Republicans are in the majority and I have subpoena power, I will personally investigate BLM like I'm a Soros-funded prosecutor going after the Trump Organization.
We're ashamed of nothing.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Seize the day.
unidentified
We're proud of the work that we did on January 6th to make legitimate arguments about election integrity.
We are going to go after this administrative state, and we're going to start at the Department of Justice and the FBI. We either get this government back on our side or we defund and get rid of, abolish the FBI, CDC, ATF, DOJ, every last one of them!
Those are his words in public.
This is who Matt Gaetz is.
And so here's what we're making sense of right now.
Donald Trump, by tapping a partisan who vowed to, quote, go after DOJ, is doubling down on his clear, repeated public vows of retribution, of abusing power.
In ways that would clearly be potentially illegal or unconstitutional.
These were the things that people sometimes said over the past months were not his focus or it was him being off message or get him returned to policy.
No.
This is the priority.
You can see it in the personnel.
It's what he intends to do with your federal government.
And these are measures that, to be clear, very few politicians openly admit and which could saddle any future cases with claims of selective prosecution.
If Gates or other individuals go down this road with the power they would get in January, if confirmed.
Matt Gates built his career on a swift rise from a relatively obscure Florida backbencher to a MAGA lightning rod by helping Trump with exactly the projects that other Republicans would not join.
Right there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ari Malbert and company.
This will be relentless.
I want to bring you now.
Natalie Winters.
Natalie, put it in perspective, particularly you've been at the tip of the spear in the investigative side of all of this.
Your thoughts on Matt Gaetz as a MAGA warrior, also in the role of the Attorney General, ma'am.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼
It's absolutely historic.
And look, this NBC brain trust epitomized by Andy Weissman, they could not handle one-tenth, one-one-hundredth of the arrows slung at them that President Trump, that Matt Gaetz have experienced first.
unidentified
I know Andy Weissman likes to act like he's Mr.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼
Tough Guy.
I remember a few months ago there was a beautiful clip of him not even being able to handle some friendly Q&A at NYU. The next couple years of your life are going to make that Q&A. I mean, Joe Scarborough can't even handle having an intern in his office.
Maybe we should launch a new show here at the War Room.
You know, their podcast is Prosecuting Donald Trump.
Maybe we should start a show prosecuting Andy Weissman, though, I think at the rate, we could start a whole media network with all the people who are going to be undergoing prosecution.
But Matt Gaetz, I think, is such a wonderful, wonderful selection.
I think that's this far.
Not only is he, of course, a dear friend of the show, he and Ginger are dear friends of mine, but this is someone who has battle-tested and has gone up the color, gone against the color revolution apparatchiks of the deep state and actually prevailed, right?
He was someone who really came onto the scene and I think emerged most fiercely as a MAGA warrior throughout the first impeachment, staunchly defending President Trump And not just from the sort of typical angle of attack that you heard from the Republican.
He was always talking and we're...
unidentified
Okay.
Natalie, we have to drop you because you're coming in and out.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Let's go ahead and reboot her.
Okay.
Let's try if we can't reboot her.
That's Natalie Winters.
Maybe we get her by phone.
They're coming...
Here's what I'd like to do.
Can we play the Weissman part where he says he won't be able to get anybody to work for him?
I just want to say, Weissman...
The DAG and all these jobs are already lined up, and it's an amazing, amazing, amazing group.
And it's going to be an incredible team that's going to be over at Justice, just like you have an incredible team of Bill McGinley and the team of the White House Counsel's Office.
Weissman, you and Comey and your type have never been held accountable.
You've run roughshod using the Justice Department, using weaponization of government, and now, because we're going to control this place for decades, you're about to see what you did to people, and we're going to put it in front of the American people.
All the evidence is going to be out there.
Because, as I keep saying, transparency helps us.
Hell, the American people just gave Trump a mandate.
And they don't even know all the details because the details have been hidden.
You've done this in the dark of night.
You and Brennan and McCabe and Hayden.
All of it.
This is why when President Trump on the 20th takes charge of the executive branch, remember, he is the chief executive officer of the government itself.
Our senior executive.
He's the commander-in-chief of the armed forces.
And that has to be reasserted.
Because they have not wanted to report to a civilian.
And he's the chief magistrate.
The chief magistrate.
And things have to be set right on Milley.
The Pentagon, and they're over there.
Politico's leaking.
They got all these stories over there checking out law forwards.
They got their lawyers going on.
Hey, anybody's got a problem?
Raise your hand right now.
Because you got a problem.
You got a problem with the orders.
You'll be relieved for calls immediately.
And Perp walked out the bed and just leave.
Go.
Then you don't have to be around.
You think these orders are illegal?
Go.
It's fine.
unidentified
Go.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Leave.
By the way, talking about billionaires, all these people want to leave the country.
Leave.
Go.
Go far away.
Go.
Don't want you.
Don't need you.
It's your decision.
I'm not saying you should leave.
I'm not saying you must leave the country.
No.
That's your decision.
That's your decision.
McCabe's sitting there.
We've had conversations internally about leaving the country.
Then go.
unidentified
Go.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Go.
Go and sin no more.
Go.
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But that's why Milley, you have to recall to active duty and impanel a court-martial and go through what he did, what he bragged about, what he told me.
I guess Esper and these guys put in these books.
Have to.
Think Bob Woodward and these guys got in that book, War, the one that just came out in the previous books, all in there.
Have to explain that.
Right?
Have to explain that.
Natalie Winters joins us again.
I think I could say our audience is ranted out today.
Natalie Winters, we didn't really have the...
We had a terrible connection, so we'll try it one more time.
And I'm going to turn the floor over to you.
Matt Gaetz, as both a person as the Attorney General, but also the direction of where these types of investigations have to go, given your investigative reporting, ma'am.
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Well, I don't think the audience could ever be ranted out by anything coming from you.
But, you know, to that point about Mark Milley Spending his time at the swanky D.C. cocktail parties, right?
Leaking stories, trying to smear the MAGA movement.
Contrast that, right, with Matt Gaetz, who has taken every arrow like a true patriot with the utmost courage, actually putting the American people first, right?
That is the staunchest juxtaposition that you could ever see Matt Gaetz, who I think really burst onto the scene, at least sort of in war room MAGA world, Being one of the staunchest defenders of President Trump during his first impeachment, right, he's a tried and tested true warrior, not just against the deep state and the abstract, but actual color revolution architects.
Architects very much in the form of people like Norm Eisen.
I remember back in the first impeachment days when I was just starting as an investigative reporter, Congressman Matt Gaetz and Rahim and I, we were always working together on exposing who these, you know, so-called witnesses were, who was actually funding them, where they were coming from.
So Congressman Gaetz, his wife Ginger, is of course a dear friend of the show, a dear friend of mine.
I could not think of a more proper and more heroic You know, MSNBC in that cold open that you played, they used MAGA congressman as a pejorative, right?
MAGA is not a pejorative.
That's the new law of the land.
And I suggest that Andy Weissman and the entire MSNBC brain trust, who I don't think could handle anything remotely close to what they put President Trump through, realize that.
And I don't know if my connection came through, but you know, all these Andy Weissman types love to play Mr.
Tough Guy.
With their podcast, you know, Prosecuting Donald Trump, well, I think we could probably start an entire new media network where we have podcasts dedicated to all the Andy Weissmans of the world who are going to be investigated and ultimately prosecuted.
I will say, if you want me to continue, there is some new developments on the Norm Eisencolor Revolution front that I think this audience should be up to date on, so I'm happy to tee off on that if you would like.
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Yes, please.
Please tee off.
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Sure, sure.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The audience wants it very much.
unidentified
Okay, so Norm Eisen tweeted yesterday something that we discussed on the show, but I want to read it again for everyone.
Trump's win should not be viewed as a personal or ideological triumph for MAGA. Instead, it's part of a broader trend of democratic decay driven by elite control of the judiciary and political institutions.
Now, of course, we mocked him for that yesterday, but I actually think that this is the beginning of the new narrative as to how they are going to try to delegitimize and, frankly, reframe the Trump victory, of course, exacerbated by the fact that they did not win the popular vote.
You'll start to see the word autocracy popping up.
There was just an article today in Democracy Docket, Mark Elias' group, lamenting that the Supreme Court is autocrats hiding behind the robes of justices.
And why I bring this up is because this is the color revolution playbook that they have practiced abroad.
In other words, the American people may have elected President Trump.
Sure, we're not going to deny the election.
Partly because they can't.
They can't impeach him, right?
So they have to use different levers of power.
But they're essentially saying that his victory is just a sign of democratic backsliding in the same way that Ann Applebaum was on MSNBC a few weeks ago, saying that, well, the death of democracy actually happens when you elect authoritarians who then take experts out of government and embed loyalists.
And the L word is something that you've also been hearing a lot, right?
President Trump is picking loyalists.
Loyalist, loyalist, loyalist, right?
That's the wash, rinse, repeat term that you've heard in the news cycle.
And it's this idea, this bogus idea that the president should be able to appoint people who are, imagine that, actually loyal to them, especially a president who's faced not just one but two impeachments.
So to really, I think, wrap all of this up into a beautiful color revolution bow, just yesterday Norm Eisen released a 267-page report We're good to go.
Basically how to prevent and attack the so-called democratic backsliding of President Trump's agenda.
And this isn't something that starts on January 20th.
They've bifurcated their strategies into the transition period and then post-transition, right?
Post-inauguration.
So what does that mean?
We're already living under the color revolution sort of strategies and tactics.
And the opening bid, the opening paragraph of this has to go to, quote, bipartisan actions to counter autocratic threats, with, of course, the important takeaway there being they're not just going to use the Democratic Party, right?
It's establishment Republicans, too, and I think everyone And this audience saw it on full display.
But where this gets so concerning, Steve, and frankly, quite vindicating for this show, for Darren Beattie, for Mike Benz, any time that we've mentioned Norm Eisen, right, the reason why he's such a central character, certainly not central casting, but central character to all this, It's because he wrote in 2019 for the Brookings Institution what he calls the playbook, which is basically the text, the seminal text of color revolutions they've used around the globe.
For the first time ever in this report that they just put out, they actually admit, quote, one of the authors of this tracker has co-authored a comprehensive guide to the subject globally and to the relevant scholarly literature, the Brookings Institution Democracy Playbook.
In other words, they admitted something that this show has been saying for years, that they are now using those tactics that they've practiced overseas and turning the guns inward and using them at home, particularly in the form of lawfare.
They float this concept of a, quote, private attorneys general.
In other words, all the civil society, all the far-left activist groups, are sort of going to use lawfare.
You're of course seeing it now with the rushing and ramming through judge appointments, but they want to use the courts to do a lot of this.
But they're also very focused already on forthcoming elections.
I want to read another, frankly, very concerning quote.
One of the subheadings is working to protect free and fair elections in 2026 and 2028.
One of the ways wanting to do that by using international election observers, quote, International actors can commit to observe elections together under the Organization for Security and Cooperation Europe or other international umbrellas to meet basic standards of universal access, equality, fairness, freedom, transparency, accountability, and privacy and voter submission.
And I think this dovetails quite nicely with another key point of this whole entire report, which is the idea of civil society, which if you think about it, Steve, Have you ever actually heard the left, the Democratic Party, refer to sort of their activist wing as civil society?
No, they're the activists, they're the grassroots, right?
But the civil society term is something that is wholly birthed and springs from the concept of color revolutions and sort of foreign regime change, right?
When you're talking about the USAID budget, It's civil society that they give the money to, right?
That's the euphemistic term that they've coined so they can justify giving millions of our tax dollars to these sort of people on the front lines to help you bring about regime change.
And like we've also called on this program repeatedly, how if they diagnose the reason that they lost the 2024 election to be misinformation, that they're going to double down on censorship.
Well, you can imagine that they have a huge, robust section in this report detailing how online or state actors should, quote, commit to establishing a common democratic agenda for regulating private industries that have an impact on democratic discourse.
Social media companies should support narrowly tailored targeted government regulation that do not infringe on users' right to free speech.
Yeah, I'm sure that's going to work out.
But why this is so concerning, too, and I think you see where this sort of goes global, Is that if they point to the United States as a representative of, you know, democratic backsliding, they admit to wanting to create a, quote, broad-based coalition of democracies where they really speak about,
which is the article that we've had on the show repeatedly, Ziblatt and Levitsky, the idea of democratic backsliding, how democracies die, that 2018 book, that New York Times article that we hammered every single day up until election, that that is sort of the approach To creating a global coalition to push back against President Trump and his agenda.
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Natalie, where do people get you on social media?
We'll have you on tomorrow, but this is obviously the opening salvo in this epic fight.
Where do folks follow you and your great reporting, ma'am?
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Natalie G. Winters on all platforms.
Thank you for having me.
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Natalie, fantastic.
Thank you, ma'am.
She'll be back on tomorrow.
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